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Identity theft tops Consumer fraud complaints
German federal employees get digital signatures
High-tech Thieves Snatch Data From ATMs (including PINs)
[ISN] Credit Card Scam
I-P: WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS BY DOROTHY E. DENNING
credit card & gift card fraud (from today's comp.risks)
UNCITRAL Electronic Contracting Project
FSTC to Validate WAP 1.2.1 Specification for Mobile Commerce
Continuing the Dialogue on New Authentication Services
InfoSpace Buys ECash Technologies
Working Group Cardholder Authentication and ICC Cards
more on factoring breakthrough?
Smartcard security (& PKI systemic risk) thread in sci.crypt n.g
Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML): Version 2 Specification (draft)
META Report: Smart Moves With Smart Cards
Worker Accused of Selling Colleagues' ID's Online (credit card scam)
Visa 3-D Secure vs MasterCard SPA Whitepaper (forwarded)
FC: European Commission considers mandatory digital rights management
Misc. payment, security, fraud, & authentication GAO reports (long posting)
Security Proportional to Risk (was: IBM Mainframe at home)
Regarding SPKI delegation certificate format (frowaded)
PKI: An Insider's View
(Extensible Markup Language) XML-Signature Syntax and Processing
Slashdot reports RSA keys under 2k insecure
Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud
Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud
[dgc.chat] XML/X - part I
Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML):Version 2 Specification
Using Microsoft Word to create Internet Drafts and RFC's
Economics of financial applications of the smart card
some certification & authentication landscape summary from recent threads
some certification & authentication landscape summary from recent threads
pk-init draft (not yet a RFC)
some certification & authentication landscape summary from recent threads
some certification & authentication landscape summary from recent threads
Identity server infrastructure ... example
landscape & p-cards
Credit card fraud sending night-vision rifle scope to criminal
Microsoft Trustbridge ... Kerberos (tickets) support
AADS Chip Strawman & aSuretee
ATM Scams - Whose Liability Is It, Anyway?
FSTC Announces Proximity Payment Trial
RFC3354 Internet Open Trading Protocol Version 2 Requirements
Credit Card Skimming Rising In The US
Credit card theft feared in Windows flaw
x9.73 Cryptographic Message Syntax
IBM launches smart-chip consultancy - Tech News - CNET.com
Government of Canada Public Key infrastructure
Finance firms push messaging standards
glossary
San Diego Company owns e-commerce
REVIEW: "Secure XML", Donald E. Eastlake/Kitty Niles
First International Conference On Trust Management
GAO Government Agencies Adhering to Privacy Laws
Meeting to mull privacy standard's next step
Workship on Human/Computer Interaction and Security systems
SAML Just The Start For Web Services Security
Cardtech/Securtech aSuretee press release
Liberty Alliance Waves White Flag at Passport
First Data Unit Says It's Untangling Authentication
First Data Unit Says It's Untangling Authentication
VeriSign unveils new online identity verification services
MaterCard test high-tech payments
eBay Customers Targetted by Credit Card Scam
eBay Customers Targetted by Credit Card Scam
eBay Customers Targetted by Credit Card Scam
[IP] The 20th anniversary of the Internet (fwd)
Briwn gets creatuve with wireless
Who owns the methods of E-commerce?
Web services specs focus on security
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
ssl certs
ssl certs
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)
SSL certs & baby steps
SSL certs & baby steps (addenda)
SSL certs & baby steps
Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on (addenda)


Identity theft tops Consumer fraud complaints

From: Lynn Wheeler
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Identity theft tops Consumer fraud complaints
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:58:18 -0700

http://www0.mercurycenter.com/nation/nationwire/docs/1740353l.htm
Posted at 8:09 a.m. PST Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002

Identity theft tops Consumer fraud complaints

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Identity theft cemented its dubious status as the most common type of U.S. consumer fraud complaint in 2001, according to federal statistics released on Wednesday.

Hijacking of personal information for fraud or theft made up 42 percent of the 204,000 fraud complaints filed with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) last year.

Identity-theft complaints grew from 23 percent of the FTC's Consumer Sentinel database in 2000 when the problem also topped the list of consumer fraud headaches.

Scam artists crack Internet databases, intercept mail or bluff their way past bank tellers and credit bureaus in an attempt to gather Social Security numbers, bank account numbers and other confidential personal information.

Armed with that information, they can then apply for credit cards or bank loans, set up cell phone service or pass bad checks under someone else's name.

Recent victims include Oprah Winfrey and Tiger Woods.

Complaints about identity theft in 2001 outpaced Internet auctions, which accounted for 10 percent of consumer gripes; Internet services, at 7 percent; and shop-at-home and catalog offers, which made up 6 percent of the database.

The FTC statistics coincide with what experts say is increasing awareness and increasing incidence of identity theft as the Internet makes personal information more readily accessible.


German federal employees get digital signatures

From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: German federal employees get digital signatures
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:04:57 -0700
German federal employees get digital signatures

By Rick Perera

(IDG) -- Germany's federal government is introducing electronic signatures for its employees, a step it hopes will help make the security procedure generally accepted in the country. More than 200,000 employees of ministries and agencies will be able to sign electronic documents using a chip card with an encrypted key, giving them the same legal weight as paper documents with a handwritten signature, the federal Cabinet said in a statement Thursday.

The measure builds on legislation making digital signatures legally binding, which entered force in Germany last year, in concert with an effort to introduce such laws throughout the European Union.

Employees will be supplied with chip cards and readers between now and 2005, when a broad-ranging project to put all possible government services online is slated for completion. About a quarter of the 400 targeted services -- including, for example, bidding for federal procurement contracts -- will require electronic signatures, the government said. The one-time setup cost, including hardware, is estimated at ¥60 (US$53) per employee, with annual maintenance costs of ¥20 to ¥40.

The new decision calls for the development of standards for the securing of online documents, e-mail, and electronic transactions. The goal is to implement the standards ISIS (Industrial Signature Interoperability Specification) and MTT (MailTrusT), still under development with government funding.

"The federal administration expects that the interoperability standard ISIS-MTT will quickly establish itself on the market, and that appropriate products for each application, based on ISIS-MTT, will be available," the Cabinet decision said.

Some IT professionals were critical of the government for not being more specific about which technology it intends to use.

The industry association Bitkom (Bundesverband Informationswirtschaft, Telekommunikation und neue Medien e.V.), while welcoming the decision, complained that it makes only suggestions and no concrete directions for implementation.

"After the many rounds of voting not much more remained than a description of the status quo," the group said in a statement. "The government thus unfortunately waters down its clear and praiseworthy aim of quickly and comprehensively outfitting the administration with security technology."

Bitkom called instead for a "citizens' card," with chip and electronic signature, for all Germans.

Rick Perera is a correspondent for the IDG News Service.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/01/21/german.government.idg/index.html

High-tech Thieves Snatch Data From ATMs (including PINs)

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From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: High-tech Thieves Snatch Data From ATMs (including PINs)
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:02:13 -0700
some previous skimming related postings:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay6.htm#ccfraud2 "out of control credit card fraud"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#40 Remove the name from credit cards!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#risks credit card & gift card fraud (from today's comp.risks)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#digcash IP: Re: Why we don't use digital cash
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror12 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#pcards2 The end of P-Cards? (addenda)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#idcard2 AGAINST ID CARDS

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/abc/20020110/bs/atmfraud020110_1.html
Thursday January 10 03:26 PM EST

High-tech Thieves Snatch Data From ATMs By Paul Eng ABCNEWS.com

Thieves can steal an account number from an ATM or debit card, and secret pin.

At the corner market, the skim is in the refrigerated milk - and perhaps in the store's cash-dispensing ATM.

But this particular "skim" isn't good for customers since it involves the poaching of an unsuspecting consumer's bank card data.

Thieves have found a way to steal not only someone's account number from an ATM or debit card but also the person's seemingly secret personal identification number. With this double dose of information, thieves can electronically rob unsuspecting victims of their cash.

The scam has been reported in New York, Florida, California and points in Canada.

The cybercrooks' technique is so clandestine that consumers often don't know that they've become victims until they check their monthly bank statements - or when checks start to inexplicably "bounce" due to lack of available funds.

Suddenly Sapped of Cash

Chris Lundie, a 28-year-old market surveillance analyst with a Wall Street investment firm, was one such victim.

Last month, Lundie and his fiancée checked their bank account online in preparation to pay their Manhattan apartment rent. But, they noticed two odd withdrawals - for $500 and $600 - made within hours of each other at bank ATMs in Flushing, Queens.

"At first we questioned how this happened," says Lundie. "We don't work in Queens and we've never been to those ATMs."

After calling his bank to stop further activity on the account, Lundie called his local police precinct and discovered that he was the latest victim of a high-tech crime ring that may have been targeting automatic teller machine users for more than a year.

Detectives with New York City Police Department's Special Fraud Unit wouldn't comment on the "ongoing investigation" into the ring. But according to a recent report in the New York Post , the thieves may have stolen as much as $1.5 million. Authorities told the Post they suspected the scam was the work of the Russian mafia.

Snatching Data Clandestinely

Law enforcement officials did not disclose how the ring operated, but industry sources gave ABCNEWS a hint at how the ring might have stolen money from unsuspecting victims.

According to one source, the thieves may have targeted non-bank ATMs - the stand-alone cash dispensers found at local grocers, bodegas, gas stations, and shopping mall food courts. The machines are rigged with tiny devices that can read a debit card's magnetic stripe as it is run through the ATM's built-in reader. A special "logic board" or cover is placed over the ATM's keypad and records when users enter their four-digit PIN codes.

Both the card's magnetic data and the user's PIN information are stored in a separate memory module. The thieves retrieve the memory module and, using commercially available computer technology, encode the stolen information onto their own blank cards. These "cloned" debit cards can then be used with the captured PIN to withdraw money from the victims' accounts using other ATMs.

Con artists have targeted debit cards and ATMs in the past in a variety of scams. Most schemes, such as the so-called Lebanese Loop, are fairly simple.

In that scam, robbers would purposely rig the card slot of the ATM to physically capture a person's bank card. The scammer, posing as a good Samaritan, would then suggest that the victim repeatedly enter their secret PIN code in order to recover the stuck card from the machine. When the effort fails, the victim often walks away - leaving the con artist to retrieve the card and use it with the now-disclosed PIN code.

ATMs: Tempting Targets

Experts believe that the thieves may have targeted non-bank ATMs for several reasons.

For one, non-bank ATMs are typically owned and maintained by independent operators who may not know that such skimming devices are being added and removed from their cash dispensers.

Most of these stand-alone ATMs also lack built-in surveillance cameras and are placed in locations that aren't monitored closely, leaving police with very little evidence to work with during their investigations.

Crafting Countermeasures

Rob Evans, marketing director for NCR, a leading ATM supplier, says the industry has developed several technologies that can defeat these clandestine card skimming setups. ATMs supplied to NCR's bank customers, for example, can be equipped with enhanced card readers that can scramble the card's data as it's being read.

"When a user puts his card in, it jitters the electronic signals so it can't be picked up by a nearby illegal card reader," says Evans.

The banking industry is also looking into other high-tech measures such as using software encryption and so-called smart cards that store data on hard-to-duplicate microprocessors.

But industry officials such as Evans admits that it's a tough race against cybercriminals. "You do what you can to make the ATM as unappealing as you can to folks that want to use it for criminal purpose," says Evans. But as ATMs - especially stand-alone versions - proliferate, "The bad guys are going to keep coming at these things as quickly as they can."

Enduring Losses and Lessons

And that's disheartening news for both consumers and the financial institutions that absorb the estimated billions of dollars annually lost to bank card fraud.

Citigroup and J.P. Morgan & Chase - two of the largest institutions reportedly stung hard by this latest ring of thieves - wouldn't comment on the amount lost in the latest scam. But Mark Rodgers, spokesman for Citigroup, says, "No [customer] funds were at risk and we regret any inconvenience that may have resulted [from this crime]." Rodgers also says, "We've worked with customers to resolve the issues on their account."

And that's good news for consumers such as Lundie. His undisclosed financial institution restored the stolen funds to his account in about two weeks. After all, "$1,100 is a lot of money living in [New York] City," he says.

Still, he and his fiancée are keeping a close eye on their new account. And he says: "I definitely make more of an attempt to use a bank ATM."


[ISN] Credit Card Scam

From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx, ansi-epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [ISN] Credit Card Scam
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:59:47 -0700
Forwarded from: Joe Penders <jpenders@xxxxxxxx>

Check out these sites:

http://www.ebay.com-order.fw.nu (fake ebay site ?)

same page again here

http://members.aol.com/cullcrow/

All wanting more info than anybody every needs over the net. HTML is also encrypted so can't tell where its really going to.

Ebay, AOL and FBI all informed on 19 Jan, 2002 but page is still up and collecting

I-P: WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS BY DOROTHY E. DENNING

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From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: I-P: WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS BY DOROTHY E. DENNING
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:07:22 -0700
significant part of x9.84 and related standards have to do with secrecy needed to support biometrics.

Part of the issue has to do with whether it is a closed system or an open system. In a purely closed system .... there are trusted secured sensors that typically have a great deal of armoring (and many other security infrastructures, supposedly making it impossible to generate a transaction w/o using one of the heavily fortified secure fingerprint readers). If the fingerprint reader armoring and other security measures can be trusted and that a fingerprint is never needed in any other but the one and only, truely closed system .... then it sort-of works.

The problem is translating to an open system and multiple closed systems .... then it is the same problem as PINs/PASSWORDS ... which preclude using the same value in more than one security domain (otherwise there is a potential that institutions can impersonate you with other organizations or bad-guys can evesdrop and impersonate you by injecting fraudulent transactions into open networks. As stated many other times ... when PIN/PASSWORD becomes compromised it is relatively straight-forward to issue a new one .... when a similar compromise occurs with a fingerprint (or other biometric) it is somewhat more difficult to issue new biometrics.

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Date Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:41:18 -0800
To cryptography@xxxxxxxx
From Bill Frantz <frantz@xxxxxxxx>
Subject Re: I-P: WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS BY DOROTHY E. DENNING
At 3:50 PM -0800 1/19/02, R. A. Hettinga quoted Dorothy Denning:
>My response is, "No." A good biometrics system should not depend on
>secrecy. ...
>
>What makes biometrics successful is not secrecy, but rather the
>ability to determine "liveness." ..
>
>The same principle applies in the digital world. Your biometric
>prints need not be kept secret, but the validation process must check
>for liveness of the readings. Many biometric products work this way.
>For instance, the Sensar iris-recognition system from Iridian
>Technologies (www.iridiantech.com) looks for the "hippus
>movement"-the constant shifting and pulse that takes place in the
>eye. The liveness test ensures that the reading is fresh, so an
>adversary can't replay a previously recorded reading. ...
It seems that this situation is true only if you can trust the device reading the biometric data. In the case an ATM, or a building entry system, this trust is reasonable.

>Testing liveness is reasonably straightforward if the biometrics
>reader senses appropriate characteristics and is tightly coupled with
>the validation process and database of biometric prints. If the
>reader is remote from the validation process and database, encryption
>can be used to provide a secure path connecting the components. The
>encryption system, obviously, should protect against replays.
However, encryption will buy you nothing if the biometric reading device is compromised or faked. If an attacker can take the freshness challenge from the other end of the connection, along with your public biometric data (say an iris pattern), then it can simulate an uncompromised device in responding with your "credentials".

Now there may be enough physical security in many places to be able to place reasonable trust in the devices which are installed there. However, it strains my belief that we will be able to trust the devices in every Internet Cafe in the world.

>Encryption can also be used to pass credentials from one system to
>another. For example, once my smart card validates my fingerprint, it
>may use a private signature key on the card to authenticate me to
>services that use my public key for authentication.
Unless your smart card has a fingerprint reader, it must trust the finger print reader it uses. An attacker can feed your smart card your public finger print data, responding to any freshness challenge your card may use, and get your card to authenticate someone else as you. It seems to me in this scheme, you must protect your smart card in much the same manner as you protect your credit cards. (Note that the smart card scheme is better than the credit card because, the secret data is not transmitted over a network like the credit card number. Modulo breaking the smart card protection, an attacker will need physical access to the card.)

Cheers - Bill

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Date Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:30:09 -0500
From Matthew Gaylor <freematt@xxxxxxxx>
Subject I-P: WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS BY DOROTHY E. DENNING
<http://www.infosecuritymag.com/articles/january01/columns_logoff.shtml>
January 2001

SECURITY STRATEGIES FOR E-COMPANIES

WHY I LOVE BIOMETRICS

It is "liveness," not secrecy, that counts.

BY DOROTHY E. DENNING

I'm a big fan of biometrics. I'm tired of trying to remember umpteen zillion account names and passwords in order to use the computers in my office, browse my favorite Web sites and update the Web sites I manage. I long for the day when computers will automatically recognize me and handle the identification and authentication function with little effort on my part.

I make lots of security-related presentations, and when I tell all of this to an audience, someone inevitably asks, "What happens if someone snatches the biometric print used to validate you? Couldn't they just replay your biometric and pretend to be you? And wouldn't that make your biometric useless?"

My response is, "No." A good biometrics system should not depend on secrecy. To understand why, think about how biometrics work in the physical world. Your friends and colleagues authenticate you by recognizing your face, voice, eyes, hands and so on. None of this is secret. Anyone who interacts with you sees these characteristics. Even your fingerprints can be lifted from surfaces.

What makes biometrics successful is not secrecy, but rather the ability to determine "liveness." I can easily distinguish the living, flesh-and-blood you from a statue or photograph of you, or even someone wearing a costume and mask that looks like you. If I don't know you well, I might be fooled by a lookalike, but in the non-Mission Impossible real world, the system generally works. If I don't know you at all, I might ask for a photo ID. But I would use such a photo only because I lack knowledge of your appearance. I authenticate you by comparing your live face against the photo, not by comparing one photo against another. For further proof, I may watch you sign your name and compare the live signature against the one on your ID card.

The same principle applies in the digital world. Your biometric prints need not be kept secret, but the validation process must check for liveness of the readings. Many biometric products work this way. For instance, the Sensar iris-recognition system from Iridian Technologies (www.iridiantech.com) looks for the "hippus movement"-the constant shifting and pulse that takes place in the eye. The liveness test ensures that the reading is fresh, so an adversary can't replay a previously recorded reading. This is the beauty of biometrics. Other forms of user authentication-including passwords, tokens and encryption-all depend on protecting a secret or device from theft. Once that secret or device is compromised, the system fails until a new one is established. Moreover, these methods typically require users to hold a different secret with each and every device or service they use, thereby burdening the user. Imagine if every time you greeted a friend or colleague, you had to use a new secret handshake!

Testing liveness is reasonably straightforward if the biometrics reader senses appropriate characteristics and is tightly coupled with the validation process and database of biometric prints. If the reader is remote from the validation process and database, encryption can be used to provide a secure path connecting the components. The encryption system, obviously, should protect against replays. Encryption can also be used to pass credentials from one system to another. For example, once my smart card validates my fingerprint, it may use a private signature key on the card to authenticate me to services that use my public key for authentication. Of course, the encryption system itself requires secret keys, but in this context, the secrets may be less prone to compromise because they don't have to be known by humans.

Biometrics can be applied not only with human users, but also with locations. For example, technology from CyberLocator (www.cyberlocator.com) authenticates geodetic location by capturing a location signature from GPS signals in a way that ensures liveness. No secrets are required. One could imagine using biometrics to authenticate places or anything else with distinguishing characteristics that exhibit a form of liveness.

In addition to liveness, a biometrics system also depends on uniqueness. Otherwise, it may be subject to false accepts or rejects. Some forms of biometrics are better than others in this regard-iris recognition being one of the best.

Questions about privacy abuse aside, biometrics is likely to be the way of the future. I can't wait to get rid of my gazillion passwords.

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credit card & gift card fraud (from today's comp.risks)

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From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: credit card & gift card fraud (from today's comp.risks).
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:01:28 -0700
other postings and recent info from comp.risks:

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm9.htm#carnivore3 Shades of FV's Nathaniel Borenstein: Carnivore's "Magic Lantern"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#19 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#20 Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was Re: The demise of compa
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#35 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#37 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#39 Buffer overflow

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Date Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:07:25 -0500
From David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxx>
Subject Credit-card cloners' $1B scam
Homemade machines costing about $50 are being used to read credit-card mag-stripes, without having to steal the cards. The information is then e-mailed abroad, where cloned cards are fabricated. This has become a billion-dollar-a-year enterprise.

[PGN-ed from Monty Solomon's e-mail to Dave's IP, subtitled Terrorists, mobsters in on hacking racket, by William Sherman, NY Daily News http://www.nydailynews.com/today/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-137421.asp]

[The gadget was first demonstrated in maybe 1960s at Caltech as part of a demo on how poor the mag-striped credit cards were. In spite of that, they won. Dave]

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Date Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:59:00 -0600
From Tim Christman <tjc@xxxxxxxx>
Subject Mag-stripes on retail gift cards
Here's a link to an article on MSNBC that I found interesting --
http://www.msnbc.com/news/598102.asp?0dm=C216T&cp1=1

Many retailers are replacing paper gift certificates with small plastic cards containing magnetic stripes, similar to credit cards. Ideally, the purchase of a gift card would result in a database being updated to reflect the balance associated with the card's unique account number.

Some retailers are using sequential account numbers and have no provisions to protect against a thief using a mag-stripe reader/writer to re-program a stolen card or small denomination card so that it matches the account number of a larger valued card purchased by someone else. Many retailers even provide a convenient 1-800 number so that the thief, knowing many valid account numbers, can "shop" for a card of significantly greater value.

The RISK: A form of fraud, difficult to trace, involving a minimal investment in equipment by the thief. Also note that the thief only requires the ability to query the back-end database (through the toll-free number), not the ability to manipulate the records. Perhaps more ominously, the risk is angry family members who find a zero balance on their gift cards!

Solutions: One retailer, mentioned in the article, uses optical bar-coding which can't be re-encoded without defacing the card. Another follows a technique used by many credit card companies -- extra check digits are included in the mag-stripe that are not visible on the face of the card. It seems astounding that this isn't being done by all.

UNCITRAL Electronic Contracting Project

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From:    lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx
To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: UNCITRAL Electronic Contracting Project
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:18:27 -0700
From Richard L. Field [mailto:field@XXXXXXXX]
Sent Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:49 PM
To DIGSIG@xxxxxxxx
Subject UNCITRAL Electronic Contracting project
To: Interested persons

The Electronic Commerce Working Group of the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law (UNCITRAL) will next be meeting at the UN in New York on March 11-15, 2002. In preparation for that meeting, the UNCITRAL Secretariat has prepared a Note (A/CN.9WG.IV/WP.95) entitled "Electronic contracting: provisions for a draft convention". It is available at
http://www.uncitral.org/english/workinggroups/wg_ec/wp-95e.pdf (39pages).

This is the first of the next set of projects of the UNCITRAL E-Commerce Working Group, now that the UNCITRAL Model Law on Electronic Signatures has been completed. The new project deals with electronic contracting considered from the perspective of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods (aka the UN Sales Convention or the Vienna Sales Convention). It is currently limited in scope to contract formation in electronic commerce. The WP.95 Note examines issues such as party location and when a contract should be considered "international" in scope and therefore subject to an international convention, offer and acceptance, consent, receipt and dispatch, automated computer systems, treatment of mistake and error, system requirements, and form requirements.

Bill Luddy has offered to set up a listserv and web site at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute for those with an interest in keeping up with and commenting on this project. To subscribe to the listserv, please send an email (with your name) to Professor Luddy at <wjl@xxxxxxxx>. The listserv will also be used to announce any telephone conference calls to be held in preparation for the meeting.

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Richard L. Field, Esq.
755 Anderson Avenue, #4A
Cliffside Park, NJ 07010  USA
ph/fax:  +1 201-941-8015
field@xxxxxxxx
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FSTC to Validate WAP 1.2.1 Specification for Mobile Commerce

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To:      epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: FSTC to Validate WAP 1.2.1 Specification for Mobile Commerce
Date:    Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:09:49 -0700
some recent FSTC announcements

From    Zach Tumin, Executive Director
             Financial Services Technology Consortium
To        FSTC's Industry Friends and Colleagues
FSTC is pleased to announce its new quarterly bulletin, FSTC Exchange. You can find the full issue at
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01 Highlights are below. We look forward to working with members, associates and friends in 2002. A happy, healthy new year to all.

Zach Tumin
Executive Director
FSTC
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FSTC Exchange / Winter 2002

The quarterly newsletter of the Financial Services Technology Consortium

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Director s Commentary
New FSTC Initiatives in Mobile Financial Services
Validating WAP for Secure Mobile Financial Transactions
Prototyping the Secure Mobile Financial Services Infrastructure
Enabling FAST Authentication for Aggregation Services
Universal Value eXchange (UVX)
Automated Imaged Signature Comparison (AISC)
Meridien Research Partnership
New Board Members Named
FSTC Discussion Forum
What s Coming Up in 2002
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Director s Commentary

As individuals and organizations we should champion the financial services industry. We should pool our collective wisdom, working together to build out the national and global infrastructures over which the nation's financial services providers conduct business, and customers access information and financial resources.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article01.cfm

New FSTC Initiatives in Mobile Financial Services

IDC predicts that by 2004 the number of Internet-enabled mobile devices will exceed that of personal computers. Given the growing importance of mobile technology to the financial services industry, FSTC has begun two projects to address the needs of members in delivering mobile financial services.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article02.cfm

Validating WAP for Secure Mobile Financial Transactions

Together with FSTC members and WAP technology and service providers, FSTC is now launching a three-month pilot project to develop and test an end-to-end wireless security environment for financial transactions, based on the emerging WAP 1.2.1/2.0 specifications. All FSTC members are invited to participate.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article03.cfm

Prototyping the Secure Mobile Financial Services Infrastructure

As financial institutions move to the mobile platform, interoperability between products and across service providers will be critical. To assure that member interoperability needs are met, FSTC is currently developing a submission to National Institute of Standards and Technology for a significant mobile financial services research and development initiative.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article04.cfm

Enabling FAST Authentication for Aggregation Services

How can aggregation providers authenticate themselves to financial institutions on behalf of financial institution customers? The FSTC FAST authentication protocol will soon be piloted to provide an answer. More information is available to members interested in reviewing the proposal or participating in the pilot.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article05.cfm

Universal Value eXchange (UVX)

FSTC is undertaking a development initiative to create a Universal Value eXchange (UVX) architecture and proof of concept. The framework will consolidate and normalize interfaces between legacy payment systems, and connect existing payments systems to new payment services. The project is in the formative stages.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article06.cfm

Automated Imaged Signature Comparison (AISC)

Can state-of-the-art image recognition technology be used to detect fraudulent check signatures? To find out, FSTC has engaged the International Biometrics Group (IBG) to assemble image comparison software from leading technology providers, develop test metrics, and exercise each system in a controlled laboratory environment.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article07.cfm

Meridien Research Partnership

A new collaborative partnership with Meridien Research gives FSTC members preferred access to Meridien s expertise in global financial services technology. FSTC and Meridien will share expertise on strategic technology investments, institute interactive forums to promote dialogue, and publish research on topics of joint interest.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article08.cfm

New FSTC Board Members Named

C. Grant Cole, senior vice president at Bank of America, Daniel R. Vermeire, chief technology officer at Huntington Banks, Lou Riehl, senior vice president at JPMorganChase Bank, and Julian Wachs, enterprise CIO for eCommerce technology and senior vice president at First Union/Wachovia Corporation, have all joined the FSTC Board.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article09.cfm

FSTC Discussion Forum

FSTC is introducing online discussion forums in which members can exchange ideas, explore opportunities for collaboration, and turn ideas into action. Complementing the discussion forums will be monthly live events where members can exchange ideas about the latest in financial services technology.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article10.cfm

What s Coming Up In 2002

The FSTC 2002 Winter Meeting is schedule for Feb. 27-28& FSTC will be moving to expand its principal membership& launching a new series of side-by-side research initiatives& launching a series of validation tests for specifications for financial transactions brought forward by other bodies& doing rapid prototyping of new authentication technologies&and more.
http://www.fstc.org/news/newsletter/2002-01/article11.cfm

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About FSTC

FSTC, the Financial Services Technology Consortium, is a not-for-profit research and development organization comprised of banks, industry partners, financial service providers, technology companies, academic institutions, and government agencies.

FSTC sponsors collaborative technology development--pilots, proofs-of-concept, tests, and demonstrations--supported by member financial institutions and technology companies. Its aim is to bring forward interoperable, open-standard technologies that provide critical infrastructures for the financial services industry. FSTC members use these same infrastructures to bring their own products and services to the market place, stimulating customer interest and earning consumer confidence, and enhancing the position of financial services institutions in the marketplace.

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To FSTC Members, Associates and Friends
From Zach Tumin, Executive Director

FSTC is pleased to announce the launch of a new wireless security project to validate the WAP 1.2.1 specification for mobile e-commerce. An FSTC project team will use live transactions over the Verizon wireless network to test critical financial transactions -- account balance, funds transfer, and bill payment. Today, many institutions do not support these transactions over wireless because of security concerns.

Our goal is to learn whether end-to-end encryption holds between the device and the financial institution under the WAP 1.2.1 specification using dynamic proxy navigation. Test results will be made available to project participants in May, and will be available to all FSTC members later in the fall.

FSTC members Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, and Wells Fargo Bank are engaged on the project team. Verizon, Openwave, 724 Solutions, RIM, Neomar and Infogard Laboratories will also be participating and playing critical roles.

Wells Fargo Bank is hosting the project launch session February 6-7 in San Francisco. Project participation is open to all FSTC members. If you think your institution or firm might be interested, please contact us quickly. Project participation fees are frozen until the February 6 launch, at which time they increase.

The full press release describing this FSTC effort is appended, below.

If you would like to get a copy of the project plan, the project participation agreement, or see the participation pricing, please contact Jim Salters, FSTC Manager of Technology Development (jim.salters@xxxxxxxx)

We invite you to participate in this project and look forward to working together to validate this key specification.

Zach Tumin
_________________________________________________________________
Zachary Tumin
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Financial Services Technology Consortium
401 N. Michigan Avenue, 22nd Floor
Chicago, IL 60611
www.fstc.org
zachary.tumin@xxxxxxxx
V 914-576-7629
F 978-336-8302
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FSTC to Validate WAP 1.2.1 Specification for Mobile Commerce

Collaborative Three-Month Validation of End-to-End Encryption for Mobile Financial Transactions to be Completed by May 2002

Project launch session scheduled for February 6th in San Francisco

Chicago ? January 21, 2002 ? Wireless security for mobile financial transactions is a key technology barrier facing financial institutions, according to the financial industry research organization Financial Services Technology Consortium (FSTC). To address the gaps in wireless security, and to establish a secure, end-to-end financial transaction infrastructure, FSTC-member financial institutions and technology companies have launched a collaborative three-month validation test, using real world transactions to test the encryption aspects of the WAP 1.2.1 mobile specification, and dynamic proxy navigation.

Sponsoring or participating companies in the WAP encryption test include 7/24 Solutions, Bank of America, InfoGard Laboratories, JPMorganChase Bank, Neomar, Openwave, RIM, Verizon Wireless, and Wells Fargo Bank. The project is open to all interested companies to join, with a two-day project launch session scheduled for February 6-7, at Wells Fargo Bank in San Francisco.

"Financial institutions need to validate that they can communicate privately and securely with their mobile customers," said Zachary Tumin, Executive Director of FSTC. "This test will not be simulated, but use live airwaves, real mobile devices, and real software products to test financial transactions, such as bill payment, fund transfers, and account balance inquiries. Using real applications we will be able to observe, in real time, if the encryption holds, end-to-end, for sensitive financial transactions. Until this test is complete, banks will be hesitant to introduce next generation wireless financial applications for mobile customers."

Results from the study will be available to project participants in May 2002, subsequently to non-participating FSTC members, and then to the public in the autumn of 2002.

"Without this collaborative effort each FSTC member bank would have to duplicate the effort and cost to conduct the same test to certify the new WAP specifications," said Kathy DeWit, Executive Vice President of Payment Strategies at Wells Fargo Bank. "Throughout the year, FSTC members regularly pool their technical resources and funds to solve shared problems. Collaboration makes our results more representative of the industry, and much less expensive, than going alone."

This year, FSTC plans to conduct a series of side-by-side technology tests and proofs-of-concept projects to validate emerging technologies geared toward financial services. Currently, FSTC is comparing automated imaged signature verification technologies that are used to reduce paper check fraud. The objective is to determine if specific technology actually performs as claimed and whether it can be implemented. All FSTC project participants gain early and exclusive access to test results.

Actual testing of encryption under the WAP 1.2.1 specification will be performed by InfoGard Laboratories of San Luis Obispo, California, with testing overseen by FSTC. InfoGard is an accredited FIPS 140-1 test laboratory under the National Institute Standards and Technology (NIST) NVLAP program. Results will be conclusive.

Organizations interested in project participation or attending the project launch session should contact Jim Salters at jim.salters@xxxxxxxx.

About FSTC

FSTC is a financial industry research organization comprised of banks, financial service firms, industry partners, national laboratories, universities and government agencies. Its goal is to bring forward interoperable, open-standard technologies for the financial services industry that makes possible new products and services. For more information, contact FSTC Headquarters at +1 (312) 527 6724 or visit http://www.fstc.org/.

Contact

Zachary Tumin
FSTC Executive Director
zachary.tumin@xxxxxxxx
+1 (914) 576 7629

To All FSTC Members

From Zach Tumin, Executive Director
FSTC Live Chat Event Reminder
Topic New Authentication Services What's the Financial Industry's Role?
Guest Chuck Wade, Internet Payments and Security Consultant
Time Wed., Jan. 23, 1200-100pm EST

Whitepaper Download
"New Authentication Services", By Chuck Wade
https://webworkzone.com/FSTCForums/dispatch.cgi/TopicOfTheMonth/folderFrame/10001 6/

Live Event
http://www.fstc.org/discussions/forums.cfm
Click on Live Event

If you have forgotten your username or password, check the FSTC Web site at
http://fstc.org/forgotPswd.cfm

E-mail questions to the event facilitator
live.chat@xxxxxxxx

Continuing the Dialogue on New Authentication Services

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/04/2002 08:59 AM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Continuing the Dialogue on New Authentication Services
zarchary.tumin@xxxxxxxx on 2/4/2002 7:26 am wrote:
To FSTC Members, Associates and Friends
From Zach Tumin, FSTC Executive Director
Subject Continuing the Dialogue on New Authentication Services

Recently, FSTC hosted a one-hour live chat event on new authentication services and the potential threat and opportunities they present to the financial industry. Our guest was Chuck Wade, a noted Internet payments and security consultant. Based on participation and feedback, the event was a great success.

Event Transcript
For those of you missed the live event, a transcript is available upon request. If you would like a copy, let me know via email and I'll forward one along.

Q&A Topics
The interactive Q&A was quite lively and we covered a number of important topics: Will financial institutions adopt Passport? Are there any general-purpose solutions that are lightweight enough for email? Will Liberty Alliance allow consumers to control their own data? What's the government's role in authentication?

Ongoing Discussion
To continue the dialogue on these important questions we have posted the relevant transcript sections as threads in the FSTC discussion forum. You can follow the conversation at:

https://webworkzone.com/FSTCForums/dispatch.cgi/TopicOfTheMonth/folderFrame/100016/

Feel free to add a reply to any of these threads or start your own if you have other authentication topics you would like to explore.

Access to the discussion forum is one of many FSTC member benefits. If you are a FSTC member and have forgotten your username or password, check the FSTC Web site at: http://fstc.org/forgotPswd.cfm.

If you are not yet a member, II urge you to consider joining FSTC now. For more information, visit http://www.fstc.org/membership/

Contact:
Zachary Tumin
FSTC Executive Director
zachary.tumin@xxxxxxxx
+1 (914) 576 7629


InfoSpace Buys ECash Technologies

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/27/2002 11:06 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: InfoSpace Buys ECash Technologies
http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cnn-storydisplay.cgi?story=/www/bw/webbox/bw.021902/220500186.htm&textcolor%23000000&linkcolor=000099&vlinkcolor=purple&pre=0&strip=1&nohrule=1&notimestamp=1&noeditor=0&nocontact=0&nobackground=1&story_textcolor%23000000&story_linkcolor=000099&header=%2Fwww%2Fbw%2Finsp%2Finsp_storyheader.shtml&footer=%2Fwww%2Fbw%2Finsp%2Finsp_storyfooter.shtml&bgcolor=%23343399
BELLEVUE, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 19, 2002-- With acquisition of eCash Technologies' assets, InfoSpace plans to bring merchants and financial institutions secure e-debit card processing and online and off-line stored value services such as pre-paid cards, loyalty programs and gift certificates

InfoSpace, Inc. (Nasdaq:INSP), a provider of wireless and Internet software and application services, today announced that the Company has acquired substantially all of the technology and intellectual property of eCash Technologies, Inc. which include electronic debit and stored value transaction technologies.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

These innovative technologies are built on an intellectual property portfolio of more than 20 patents issued in the US and overseas. InfoSpace plans to offer merchants additional payment mechanisms that are expected to reduce processing costs, while providing exciting opportunities for merchants to drive new revenue streams and strengthen their relationships with valued customers.

InfoSpace plans to add electronic debit functionality to its existing credit card and electronic-check processing services that would give merchants the ability to accept debit card payments. Through advanced encryption and digital signature technology, the debit solution is being designed to be able to authenticate the consumer and merchant, and authorize the payment via secure protocols developed by leading debit card associations. In addition, the solution is being designed to provide consumer identification and real-time verification of funds, allowing merchants to enjoy the equivalent of a "card present" transaction without certain of the fraud and charge-back concerns of "card not present" payments.

In addition, InfoSpace plans to offer merchants stored value coupon, incentive, loyalty and promotion services that can be redeemed both online and offline. Stored value programs can be used in a variety of ways by merchants to lower costs and build customer loyalty. These programs allow cash, points, etc. to be placed on a physical card or in an online account that can be redeemed for goods and services at the point of sale by the customer. For merchants with existing paper-based loyalty programs such as pre-paid cards and gift certificates, InfoSpace plans to develop these new technologies to extend these programs into the online world, enabling these programs to be redeemed interchangeably online and offline. InfoSpace plans to offer these services to its broad network of merchant resellers including leading financial institutions and other merchant service providers.

In the fourth quarter of 2001, InfoSpace Merchant services processed more than $1 billion in transactions, up from $700 million reported in the previous quarter. The total number of transactions processed was more than 12 million, up from 9 million reported in the third quarter. "Merchants today want innovative payment solutions giving them higher cost savings and increased fraud protection for both online and offline transactions. In addition, consumers want secure and convenient payment solutions that can be used both online and offline," said Prakash Kondepudi, InfoSpace executive vice president, merchant. "The acquisition of innovative technologies from eCash will enhance our payment technologies offered through leading merchant service providers and financial institutions with stored value payment services that address the needs of today's merchant businesses."

About InfoSpace, Inc.

InfoSpace, Inc. (Nasdaq:INSP) provides wireless and Internet software and application services. The Company develops software technologies that enable customers to efficiently offer a broad array of network-based services under their own brand to any device.

This release contains forward-looking statements relating to the development of InfoSpace, Inc.'s products and services and future operating results, including statements regarding InfoSpace's purchase of assets from eCash Technologies, Inc., that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. The words "believe," "expect," "intend," "anticipate," variations of such words, and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements, but their absence does not mean that the statement is not forward-looking. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Factors that could affect InfoSpace's actual results include the progress and costs of the development of our products and services and the timing of market acceptance of those products and services. A more detailed description of certain factors that could affect actual results include, but are not limited to, those discussed in InfoSpace's Annual Report on Form 10-K, in the section entitled "Factors Affecting Our Operating Results, Business Prospects and Market Price of Stock." Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this release. InfoSpace undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect new information, events or circumstances after the date of this release or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

--30--cla/se

CONTACT: InfoSpace, Inc.
Adam Whinston, 425/201-8946
adam.whinston@xxxxxxxx


Working Group Cardholder Authentication and ICC Cards

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/27/2002 11:08 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Working Group Cardholder Authentication and ICC Cards
note that this somwhat overlaps X9.59 since X9.59 used digital signatures for "account" holder (which has a mapping to iso 8583 payment "card") financial transaction authentication.

x9@xxxxxxxx on 2/26/2002 3:59 pm wrote:
[This message was automatically generated by X9 Forum]

There is 1 new document, TG-3 March 2002, in the X9F6 - Working Group Cardholder Authentication and ICC Cards committee.

Forum: X9F6 - Working Group Cardholder Authentication and ICC Cards

Folder: 2002-03 March 2002 Meeting - Gulfport, MS

Entry: TG-3 March 2002

From: Steve Case

Date: 02/26/2002


more on factoring breakthrough?

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/27/2002 11:08 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: more on factoring breakthrough?
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/02/26/179206.shtml?tid=93

Smartcard security (& PKI systemic risk) thread in sci.crypt n.g

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/28/2002 10:26 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Smartcard security (& PKI systemic risk) thread in sci.crypt n.g.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#7

Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML): Version 2 Specification (draft)

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 02/28/2002 10:26 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML): Version 2 Specification (draft)
ietf itrade working group

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-trade-ecml2-spec-02.txt
             Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML):
                        Version 2 Specification
                  <draft-ietf-trade-ecml2-spec-02.txt>
Abstract

Electronic commerce frequently requires a substantial exchange of information in order to complete a purchase or other transaction, especially the first time the parties communicate. A standard set of hierarchicly organized payment related information fields in an XML syntax are defined as the second version of an Electronic Commerce Modeling Language (ECML) so that this task can be more easily automated, for example by wallet software.


META Report: Smart Moves With Smart Cards

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/01/2002 06:31 AM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: META Report: Smart Moves With Smart Cards
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/it_res/article/0,,3031_981861,00.html
Summary: Stronger authentication will supplement simple password approaches (2002-04), but infrastructure limitations will impede smart card adoption until 2003, and biometrics will remain niche through 2005. Privacy regulation (e.g., EU and Australian laws, GLBA, HIPAA) will focus attention on encryption of information at the data, file, database, and transport levels in 2002. By 2004/05, regulations will extend to numerous industries, and the concurrent maturity and transparency of PKI components (such as embedded in NOS, directories, and file systems) by 2006 will accelerate widespread use of encryption. Fine-grained authorization will remain an application play through 2005, though coarse-grained authorization will become more centralized throughout 2002/03.

Worker Accused of Selling Colleagues' ID's Online (credit card scam)

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/02/2002 01:43 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Worker Accused of Selling Colleagues' ID's Online (credit card scam)
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/02/technology/02INTE.html?todaysheadlines=&pagewanted=print
March 2, 2002

Worker Accused of Selling Colleagues' ID's Online

By JACOB H. FRIES

former employee of the Prudential Insurance Company was arrested yesterday and charged with stealing the identities of colleagues from a database containing 60,000 names and selling some of them over the Internet as part of a credit card scam, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn announced.

While working in the tax department at Prudential, the former employee, Donald Matthew McNeese of Callahan, Fla., stole the database of personnel records, making it one of the largest potential identity-theft cases ever, said Jim Walden, the assistant United States attorney prosecuting the case for the Eastern District of New York. Mr. Walden would not specify how many people had money stolen in the scam.

Investigators in New York had been tracking Mr. McNeese for two years, after a detective in Brooklyn went online and noticed that Mr. McNeese had posted a message on an electronic bulletin board. In the message, Mr. McNeese announced that he had thousands of names and Social Security numbers for sale, according to the criminal complaint.

Investigators said they believed that Mr. McNeese also co-opted personal information at another company, but would not provide details, citing a continuing investigation.

Mr. McNeese, who turned 30 yesterday, was arrested at his house in Florida and is awaiting arraignment in Jacksonville, Fla., on charges of identity theft, credit fraud and money laundering, the authorities said. During his arrest, prosecutors said, he admitted taking the database when he worked at Prudential's Jacksonville office in 2000. During a search of his house, investigators seized a computer, a shotgun with a silencer and fake federal identification.

Mr. Walden, head of the Eastern District's computer crimes and intellectual property section, said he expected Mr. McNeese to be brought to Brooklyn and prosecuted. If convicted, Mr. McNeese could face 45 years in prison and ordered to pay a $750,000 fine and restitution to his victims.

On July 21, 2000, the complaint alleges, Mr. McNeese posted a message soliciting bidders: "Does anyone think this kind of info would be valuable enough to sell or trade for card numbers? If so, what kind of price would be fair? Consider that there may be thousands of records ready for sale."

A detective from the New York Electronic Crimes Task Force replied to Mr. McNeese by e-mail and indicated that he was interested in buying the identities for $50 each, the complaint says.

In later messages, the detective wrote that he could arrange a scam in which fraudulent credit cards were created from stolen identities and used to transfer money, the complaint says. Mr. McNeese then provided more identities and a transfer was arranged, according to the complaint.

In other instances, prosecutors said, Mr. McNeese posted the personal information of former colleagues on the Internet, free for anyone to use. One employee had more than $2,000 charged to his credit card, the complaint alleges. And later, investigators said, the suspect posted the Visa card number of a former supervisor and about $300 was stolen.

At the same time, Mr. McNeese created false e-mail addresses and sent harassing messages to former colleagues, according to the complaint. At one point, prosecutors believe, Mr. McNeese composed an incriminating message and made it appear to have been written by his former boss.

"All this highlights the good and bad of such a free medium like the Internet," said Mr. Walden, who added that he hoped that this case would put pressure on Internet companies to shut down sites devoted to criminal activity.

Robert DeFillippo, a Prudential spokesman, would not discuss Mr. McNeese's work history at the company. "We've been cooperating fully in a very active way," Mr. DeFillippo said. "The welfare of our employees, and that includes their privacy, is of the utmost importance to us."


Visa 3-D Secure vs MasterCard SPA Whitepaper (forwarded)

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/02/2002 01:43 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Visa 3-D Secure vs MasterCard SPA Whitepaper (forwarded)
posted to internet-payments@xxxxxxxx

anders.rundgren@xxxxxxxx on 3/2/2002 6.56 am wrote:
Hum, I thought this list was down!

May I take the opportunity to introduce www.orbiscom.com who claim that they have the solution to secure Internet payments. Orbiscom is supported by major banks in the Nordics and achieves security without requiring any changes in the current infrastructure! No cryptography, or fancy merchant SW needed. In the US, First Data seems to support them as well. The basic concept is to issue short-lived, value-restricted, one-time credit-cards which means that web-sites "leaking" credit-card info will be much less harmful.

Regarding 3D Secure, I feel that is flawed as it introduces a brand -directory in the middle that is redundant, and make the system rigid. The very same idea (delegated signing), but using Web Services, could easily have supported all brands, local account-to-account schemes, etc.

An associated problem is that the banking-industry has failed to introduce an organizational-level PKI which is extremely needed for their client organizations for everything from acquiring credit card money, to sending invoices to their customers' Internet-banks. W.o. such a scheme, most of these new efforts will just be too hard to become ubiquitous. SET was extreme in requiring merchants to be a part of a credit-card-brand-PKI which is (in retrospect), simply ridiculous, as a merchant may support many brands, roles, and activities with respect to FIs.

BTW, using 3D Secure principles (not the current draft), there is no requirement for clients to have an EMV-resource, but (preferably) a PKI-resource identifying the client rather than his/her account. If EMV has no clear use on the net, will it ever make it in the physical world? I doubt it.

So maybe Orbiscom will really take this market although I remain skeptic as the winner may very well be status quo. As usual :-(.

cheers, Anders Rundgren

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent Clark
To: internet-payments@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 06:07
Subject: Visa 3-D Secure vs MasterCard SPA Whitepaper

GPayments' has just been released its latest whitepaper entitled: "Visa 3-D Secure vs MasterCard SPA: A Comparison of online authentication standards"

Visa 3-D Secure ("Verified by Visa") and MasterCard SPA are two new online authentication standards from Visa and MasterCard designed to protect online payment transactions with a password/PIN. These initiatives are aimed at reducing the incidence of online credit card fraud.

This whitepaper compare the standards head to head examining them from the perspectives of cardholders, issuers, merchants and acquirers. It also compares the standards from both a general architecture and a security architecture perspective. The whitepaper can be accessed at
http://www.gpayments.com/pdfs/GPayments_3-D_vs_SPA_Whitepaper.pdf

GPayments is focused on authentication and payment solutions for Internet transactions. GPayments has a full ePayments product suite including issuer authentication systems, cardholder applets, internet payment gateways and merchant authentication plug-ins. GPayments is a founding member of the Visa 3-D Secure Forum and a licensed MasterCard SPA implementer.

Regards,

Brent Clark

VP Business Strategy
GPayments Pty Ltd
www.GPayments.com
PO Box 1622
Warriewood NSW 2102 AUSTRALIA
Telephone: +61 2 9913 3088
Facsimile: +61 2 9913 3077


FC: European Commission considers mandatory digital rights management

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/02/2002 01:43 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: FC: European Commission considers mandatory digital rights management
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 12:23:13 -0500
From: Declan McCullagh <declan@xxxxxxxx>
To: politech@xxxxxxxx
Subject: FC: European Commission considers mandatory digital rights management

As the U.S. Congress weighs mandatory digital rights management, the European Commission is also looking into the topic. A 43-page EC study of digital rights management gives a nod to fair use and privacy -- and then says DRM schemes are not only inevitable but a fabulous idea.

A key excerpt from the study says the EC "should continue to encourage all players to develop operational, open and interoperable DRM solutions and to deploy them rapidly." (Apparently the EC has been funding such schemes for the last decade.)

I've placed the EC study here in PDF form (thanks, Michael):
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/european.commission.drm.030202.pdf

-Declan

----- Forwarded message from Michael Kleinhenz <kleinhenz@xxxxxxxx>
From: Michael Kleinhenz <kleinhenz@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: European Commission enforces DRM systems
To: declan@xxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 10:33:59 -0500

Hi Declan,

maybe something for your list:

Yesterday I was at a workshop of the European Commision on Digital Rights Management Systems. I held a talk about the weaknesses of DRMs and the chances of Open Content like business models. Most of the about 100 people attending the workshop were representatives of the content industry or manufacturers of DRM systems. Therefore my talk was not really liked by them (the usual "Open Source is like stealing" stuff).

More interesting is, that my impression of this workshop is, that

1. The EC will continue to support the use and implementation of DRM systems on a broad scale.

2. Their recent directive on that topic (2001/29/EC) that has to be implemented by the member states by the end of the year will result in a SSSCA like legislation.

3. From the proceedings and my personal conversation with some of the participants, I believe that most of the content providers have not realized the facts: many people at the workshop have talked about systems like Napster, but I think too few people had the actual technological advancement in mind when talking of such services. I was the only one to emphasize the implications from things like Freenet which I think is unstoppable, no matter what..

In result, I was scared by two things: how the workshop was compiled by the EC (95% content industry, 5% consumer rights organizations) and the fact that many people there were so naive in terms of DRMs, their implications and their implementations. Example: everyone was talking about a common standard for DRM systems to support many platforms, but no one was talking about the implications of (software)patents on it.

Attached you can find a Commission staff working paper on Digital Rights that may be interesting as well...

Thanks, Michael

--
Michael Kleinhenz LinuxTag 2002 - Europes largest Linux Expo
kleinhenz@xxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtag.org/


Misc. payment, security, fraud, & authentication GAO reports (long posting)

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/02/2002 04:22 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Misc. payment, security, fraud, & authentication GAO reports (long posting)

* Payment Systems: Central Bank Roles Vary, but Goals Are the Same. GAO-02-303 February 25, 2002
* Check Relay: Controls in Place Comply With Federal Reserve Guidelines. GAO-02-19 December 12, 2001
* Federal Reserve Banks: Areas for Improvement in Computer Controls. GAO-02-266R December 10, 2001
* Anti-Money Laundering: Efforts in the Securities Industry. GAO-02-111 October 10, 2001
* Internal Controls: Federal Disbursement Controls Can Be Strengthened. GAO-01-910R August 13, 2001
* Purchase Cards: Control Weaknesses Leave Two Navy Units Vulnerable to Fraud and Abuse. GAO-01-995T July 30, 2001
* Financial Services Regulators: Better Information Sharing Could Reduce Fraud. GAO-01-478T March 6, 2001
* Information Security: Advances and Remaining Challenges to Adoption of Public Key Infrastructure Technology. GAO-01-277 February 26, 2001
* Bank Regulators' Evaluation of Electronic Signature Systems. GAO-01-129R November 8, 2000

Abstracts:
Payment Systems: Central Bank Roles Vary, but Goals Are the Same. GAO-02-303 February 25, 2002

The central banks of major industrialized countries have agreed on common policy objectives and presented them in the Core Principles for Systematically Important Payment Systems. Intended to help promote safer and more efficient payment systems worldwide, the Core Principles outline specific policy recommendations for systematically important payment systems and describe the responsibilities of the central banks. All of the central banks GAO studied seek to ensure that their wholesale payment systems operate smoothly and minimize systemic risk. All of the central banks provide settlement services for their countries' wholesale payment systems. Some central banks also provide wholesale clearing services. Other central banks own the system but have little operational involvement in clearing, while others participate in partnerships with the private sector. All of the central banks GAO studied provide settlement for some retail payment systems. Some, but not all, central banks exercise regulatory authority over retail payment systems in their countries. Central banks also tend to have less operational involvement in countries where there is a relatively concentrated banking industry. In some cases, laws governing payments and the structure of the financial services industry direct the involvement of central banks in retail payment systems.

Check Relay: Controls in Place Comply With Federal Reserve Guidelines. GAO-02-19 December 12, 2001

This report discusses the management of the air transportation network used to move checks from one Federal Reserve office to another. GAO studied the propriety of practices for bidding, awarding, and monitoring contracts and the adequacy of controls to monitor fuel and other payments to vendors. The network was moved to the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta (FRB Atlanta) in September 1998 and renamed Check Relay. Check Relay's internal controls are designed to ensure that each step of the contract evaluation and approval process conforms to FRB Atlanta and Federal Reserve System policies and that appropriate senior officials review and approve contract terms. Check Relay also ensures that all payments to vendors conform to contract terms. Another set of controls verifies that the amount of fuel used by Check Relay's vendors is consistent with expected levels and that fuel is provided only to the appropriate recipients. Check Relay is managed as a unit of the Retail Payments Office, which is managed out of FRB Atlanta. The Board's Division of Reserve Bank Operations and Payment Systems also has oversight responsibility over Check Relay. GAO found no evidence with which to question FRB Atlanta's conclusions that Check Relay's internal controls are effectively designed and implemented.

Federal Reserve Banks: Areas for Improvement in Computer Controls. GAO-02-266R December 10, 2001

As part of its audit of the U.S. government's fiscal year 2000 financial statements, GAO reviewed computer controls over key financial systems maintained and operated by the Federal Reserve Banks (FRB) on behalf of the Department of the Treasury's Financial Management Service (FMS) and the Bureau of the Public Debt (BPD). GAO identified opportunities to improve general controls related to access at two data centers; access, system software, and service continuity at a third data center; and access and system software at a fourth data center. GAO also identified opportunities to improve authorization controls over four key applications and accuracy controls over one of these key applications. FRB had corrected or mitigated the risks associated with all vulnerabilities discussed in earlier GAO reports. Although the general and application controls identified do not pose significant risks to the FMS and BPD financial systems, they warrant action to decrease the risk of inappropriate disclosure and modification of sensitive data and programs, misuse of or damage to computer resources, and disruption of critical operations.

Anti-Money Laundering: Efforts in the Securities Industry. GAO- 02-111 October 10, 2001

To disguise illegally obtained funds, money launderers have traditionally targeted banks, which accept cash and arrange domestic and international fund transfers. However, criminals seeking to hide illicit funds may also be targeting the U.S. securities markets. Although few documented cases exist of broker-dealer or mutual fund accounts being used to launder money, law enforcement agencies are concerned that criminals may increasingly try to use the securities industry for that purpose. Most broker-dealers or firms that process customer payments for mutual funds are subject to U.S. anti-money laundering requirements. However, unlike banks, most of these firms are not required to report suspicious activities. The Treasury Department is now developing a rule requiring broker-dealers to report suspicious activities. Treasury expects that the rule will be issued for public comment by the end of this year. Various intergovernmental groups, such as the Financial Action Task Force, have been working on recommendations that call for member nations to take various steps to combat money laundering through their financial institutions, including requiring securities firms to report suspicious activities. Although many members countries report that they have issued all or many of these recommendations and have applied them to their securities firms, it is difficult to determine how well the measures are being implemented and enforced.

Internal Controls: Federal Disbursement Controls Can Be Strengthened. GAO-01-910R August 13, 2001

GAO tested certain internal controls over federal disbursements processed by the Department of the Treasury's Financial Management Service (FMS) in fiscal year 2000. With some exceptions, FMS makes disbursements for all federal agencies through its Regional Financial Centers and Debt Management Operations Center. For fiscal year 2000, FMS reported processing approximately 890 million disbursements totaling more than $1.2 trillion. The centers disburse funds by check, electronic funds transfer (EFT), or Fedwire. FMS reported that these disbursements for fiscal year 2000 included approximately 265 million checks amounting to more than $265 billion, approximately 625 million EFTs amounting to more than $720 billion, and approximately 47,000 Fedwires amounting to more than $275 billion. The centers also process Automated Standard Application for Payments (ASAP) system enrollments. FMS reported the federal agencies authorized payments of over $254 billion in fiscal year 2000 using the ASAP system. This report reviews the results of GAO's (1) follow-up work on previously recommended improvements and corrective actions taken to address such recommendations and (2) fiscal year 2000 testing and related recommendations for improving controls over safeguarding assets and processing and documenting delegation and designation of agency certifying officers. GAO found that FMS' and the centers' corrective actions resolved weaknesses reported for fiscal year 1999 relating to (1) controls over checks awaiting destruction and returned checks, (2) segregation of duties for the ASAP system, (3) documenting agency certifying officer's signature verification, (4) authorized signature for return of canceled Fedwire disbursements, and (5) reconciling courtesy disbursements. Similar to fiscal year 1999, FMS had internal control weaknesses in personnel screening, inventory control, audit procedures, and reporting requirements.

Purchase Cards: Control Weaknesses Leave Two Navy Units Vulnerable to Fraud and Abuse. GAO-01-995T July 30, 2001

This testimony discusses internal controls weaknesses that left two Navy units in San Diego, California, vulnerable to purchase card fraud and abuse. GAO found a proliferation of purchase cards at the two units in San Diego--the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command and the Navy Public Works. In the end, more than 1,700 cardholders essentially had the authority to make their own purchase decisions. A serious breakdown in internal controls over the receipt of government property and the certification of monthly statements, coupled with flawed or nonexistent policies and procedures and the failure of Navy employees to adhere to valid policies and procedures, led to (1) the loss, theft, and misuse of government property; (2) the potential abuse of purchase cards; and (3) payments of potentially fraudulent charges. Five fraud cases have already been identified, and the government remains extremely vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse arising from the purchase card program at the two Navy units. This testimony summarized the November report, GAO-02-32.

Financial Services Regulators: Better Information Sharing Could Reduce Fraud. GAO-01-478T March 6, 2001

The sharing of regulatory and criminal history data among financial services regulators can reduce fraudulent activities. GAO recently reported on several instances in which unscrupulous brokers moved from one financial industry to another. This testimony focuses on (1) systems used by financial regulators for tracking regulatory history data, (2) regulatory history data needed to help prevent rogue migration and limit fraud, (3) criminal history data needs among financial regulators, and (4) challenges and considerations for implementing an information-sharing system among financial regulators.

Information Security: Advances and Remaining Challenges to Adoption of Public Key Infrastructure Technology. GAO-01-277 February 26, 2001

The federal government must overcome several major challenges before public key infrastructure (PKI) technology can be widely and effectively used. These challenges include providing interoperability among agency PKIs, ensuring that PKI implementations can support a potential large scale of users, reducing the cost of building PKI systems, setting policies to maintain trust levels among agencies, and establishing training programs for users at all levels. Although such challenges are difficult to overcome in the near term, the federal government can take steps to better assist agencies develop and implement PKIs that may eventually be interconnected into a federal governmentwide system. The recent effort to develop a Federal Bridge Certification Authority (FBCA) is an excellent first step in this direction, but this effort lacks the context of a well-defined program plan for the government as well as key policy and technical standards. Establishing a federal PKI management framework could facilitate and accelerate participation in the FBCA as well as overall federal adoption of key technology for enabling electronic government.

Bank Regulators' Evaluation of Electronic Signature Systems. GAO-01-129R November 8, 2000

This report discusses bank regulators' evaluation of electronic signature systems. Financial institutions use signature systems to verify or authenticate the identity of customers conducting financial and nonfinancial transactions over the Internet and other open electronic networks. Officials at the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) and the Federal Reserve told GAO that they are developing an examination strategy for Identrus LLC, which is an entity that provides services to financial institutions to authenticate electronic signatures. OCC officials have not determined what role they will play in assessing Identrus' operations, but they believe that financial institutions should take an active role in assessing the risks associated with electronic signatures.


Security Proportional to Risk (was: IBM Mainframe at home)

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From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/04/2002 04:58 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Security Proportional to Risk (was: IBM Mainframe at home)
Anne & Lynn Wheeler writes:
After that, things still continued on the seven year cycle ... but there were two teams, working in parallel producing products offset. The 3081 was the "158" team ... the 3090 was the "168" team.
above from "ibm mainframe at home" thread in a.f.c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#7

with OT thread drift to security proportional to risk thread (somewhat e-commerce):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#61 Net banking, is it safe???

in the early 70s there was a trade-secret document theft case regarding disk technology. The assertions was that the "disk clone" business took 12 to 18 months to reverse engineer, duplicate and bring product to market (after initial introduction of new product). The assertion was that the document thefts would potentially allow a clone manufactur to bring a product to market six months earlier ... representing possibly several tens of billions of dollars in revenue.

somewhere along the way, the judge supposedly raised the "swimming pool attractive hazard" issue (aka pool owner is responsible for bad things that happen in their pool unless they can demonstrate fences and other security measures proportional to determination of trespassers that might find the pool attractive); aka for legal remedy, have to demonstrate security measures proportional to the value of the trade-secret.

For actual disk hardware this was a secure compound with perimeter fence and guards at the gates, patrols inside the compound, secure building with door badge readers, enforced & audited policies about tail-gating, 2nd floor (above ground) machine room with even more restricted badge reader acces. Within the machine room, devices were housed in a "test cell" ... basically a small heavy steel wire mesh cage (maybe 5x5x7, reinforce steel floor, heavy steel wire mesh sides & top). Door to cage had combination lock and each cage had unique combination. Lots of audit procedures and patrols to assure that security was being followed. This is somewhat analogous to safe deposit boxes but with more layers of security and constant auditing procedures.

Documents were "candy-stripe" covers with registered confidential classification. Each copy of a document was numbered. Each page of a candy-stripe document had the document copy number embossed in large print on every page (basically faint background but the number was large print essentially filling the whole page) with legend "registered confidential, do not copy/reproduce" on every page (either 3800 background flash or special paper from secure printer).

Each copy was signed out to specific person and that person had to follow a lot of processes protecting the document which were also audited on regular basis. A person having registered confidential documents also had special secure file cabinat for storing the documents, their offices had sporadic audits after hours and there were periodic audits to verify that the person still had possesion of the document. Registered confidential document copies tended to number in the tens or at most few hundres.

For the 3081 there were a whole file drawer of "811" documents (from the date nov. 1978) that were registered confidential and had to demonstrate that every copy of every 811 document was managed with the highest/appropriate security processes. Even at that, there was some leakage and a fairly well publiciszed industrial espionage case related to 811 documents.

bringing back to merchant e-commerce sites thread ... would an attractive hazard be a defense with regard to hacking e-commerce servers that had insufficient security?

random registered confidential refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#30 IBM OS Timeline?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#79 a.f.c history checkup... (was What specifications will the standard year 2001 PC have?)

random attractive hazard refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsmore.htm#2527a RFC 2527 Physical Security Controls Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#42 IBM was/is: Imitation...

random disk test cell ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#15 cp disk story
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#3 What is an IBM 137/148 ???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#18 IBM 4381 (finger-check)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#15 OSes commerical, history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#31 Old Computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#54 Fault Tolerance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#9 Computer of the century
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#69 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#72 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#19 checking some myths.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#13 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#32 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#39 195 was: Computer Typesetting Was: Movies with source code
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#10 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#2 Microcode? (& index searching)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#0 VAX, M68K complex instructions (was Re: Did Intel Bite Off MoreThan It Can Chew?)

random 811/3081 references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#31 Big I/O or Kicking the Mainframe out the Door
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#00 Big I/O or Kicking the Mainframe out the Door
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#43 Bloat, elegance, simplicity and other irrelevant concepts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#55 How Do the Old Mainframes Compare to Today's Micros?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#3 What is an IBM 137/148 ???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#10 Virtual Memory (A return to the past?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#46 The god old days(???)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#4 IBM S/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#102 IBM 9020 computers used by FAA (was Re: EPO stories (was: HELP IT'S HOT!!!!!))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#103 IBM 9020 computers used by FAA (was Re: EPO stories (was: HELP IT'S HOT!!!!!))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#112 OS/360 names and error codes (was: Humorous and/or Interesting Opcodes)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#190 Merced Processor Support at it again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#78 Mainframe operating systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#38 How to learn assembler language for OS/390 ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#65 oddly portable machines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#55 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#57 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#35 John Mashey's greatest hits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#37 John Mashey's greatest hits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#38 Why SMP at all anymore?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#62 z/Architecture I-cache
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#69 Z/90, S/390, 370/ESA (slightly off topic)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#83 Z/90, S/390, 370/ESA (slightly off topic)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#53 Varian (was Re: UNIVAC - Help ??)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#66 Pentium 4 Prefetch engine?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#62 any 70's era supercomputers that ran as slow as today's supercomputers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#68 Q: Merced a flop or not?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#13 Parity - why even or odd (was Re: Load Locked (was: IA64 running out of steam))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#17 I hate Compaq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#18 I hate Compaq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#7 hot chips and nuclear reactors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#24 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#40 MVS History (all parts)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#61 MVS History (all parts)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#23 Smallest Storage Capacity Hard Disk?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#9 NCP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#5 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#45 VM and/or Linux under OS/390?????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#48 Microcode?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#11 Microcode? (& index searching)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#20 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#32 First DESKTOP Unix Box?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#9 IBM Doesn't Make Small MP's Anymore
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#40 using >=4GB of memory on a 32-bit processor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#42 Beginning of the end for SNA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#7 IBM Mainframe at home

random security proportional to risk refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsmore.htm#2527a RFC 2527 Physical Security Controls Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#websecure merchant web server security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror3 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror5 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#pcards The end of P-Cards?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#pcards3 The end of P-Cards? (addenda)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm7.htm#rubberhose Rubber hose attack
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm8.htm#rhose17 [Fwd: Re: when a fraud is a sale, Re: Rubber hose attack]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#netbank2 net banking, is it safe?? ... security proportional to risk
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#netsecure some recent threads on netbanking & e-commerce security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#3dsecure2 3D Secure Vulnerabilities? Photo ID's and Payment Infrastructure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay7.htm#3dsecure3 financial payment standards ... finger slip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#cfppki13 CFP: PKI research workshop
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#tamper Limitations of limitations on RE/tampering (was: Re: biometrics)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#bio8 biometrics (addenda)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#42 IBM was/is: Imitation...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#61 Net banking, is it safe???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#67 Would this type of credit card help online shopper to feel more secure?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#53 Credit Card # encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#57 E-commerce security????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#2 E-commerce security????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#5 E-commerce security????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#44 Does "Strong Security" Mean Anything?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#54 Does "Strong Security" Mean Anything?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#55 I-net banking security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#2 Why is UNIX semi-immune to viral infection?

Regarding SPKI delegation certificate format (frowaded)

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/05/2002 02:26 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Regarding SPKI delegation certificate format (frowaded)
forwarded from SPKI mailing list (note authentication, spki, & aads masther thesis reference)

Pornthep Narula on 3/5/2002 5:47 am wrote:
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Carl Ellison wrote:


> I don't see a problem with delegating 10 of my 20 units to someone
> else. This is the same as writing a check. As long as you and I both
> have accounts in this bank, I should be able to transfer units to you
> at will -- and receive them as well. I can also convert real currency
> to these units. It's up to the bank if I can convert units back to
> real currency.
>
> Right?

right, iff you treat `transfer', `delegate' and `grant' as same. but are they?

an excerpt from Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, 6th Edition:

delegate (v) to give part of your work, power or authority to sb in a lower position than you.

grant (v) to agree to give sb what they ask for, especially formal or legal permission to do sth.

transfer (v) to officially arrange for sth to belong to sb else or for sb else to control sth.

as far as these traditional definitions go, SPKI doesn't deal with transfer at all, and is rather ambiguous when it comes to delegation vs grant. in fact, the three words have often been used interchangebly in SPKI-related RFCs, drafts, papers, and discussions. this, IMHO, is rather confusing and counter-productive.

i've been working on an authorization management framework, based on SPKI and AADS, that treats these three acts differently. a master's thesis is expected to be finalised and available for peer reviews later this year.

--
Regards,
Pornthep (tep) Narula


PKI: An Insider's View

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/06/2002 01:18 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: PKI: An Insider's View
random other refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#radius
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#privacy

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http://www.infosecuritymag.com/articles/october01/columns_logoff.shtml

SECURITY STRATEGIES FOR E-COMPANIES

PKI: AN INSIDER'S VIEW

Bad karma and a multitude of technical issues have kept the technology from taking off.

BY BEN ROTHKE

It's been a recurring theme the past few Januarys: "This is the year of PKI." Such aspirations of hitting a grand-slam homerun weren't overly optimistic since public key infrastructure addressed many of the emerging Internet threats and operating necessities of e-commerce.

PKI vendors spent billions in product development and corporate acquisitions to position themselves for this potential market. However, the PKI game has essentially turned into a no hitter. I know; I was a player for one of the biggest PKI teams--Baltimore Technologies (www.baltimore.com).

With evaporating revenues and plunging stock prices, PKI vendors--such as Baltimore, Entrust (www.entrust.com) and VeriSign (www.verisign.com)--have dramatically scaled back their infrastructure, laid off employees (myself included) and rushed to refocus their offerings in more marketable sectors. Few still embrace their PKI roots, instead promoting new market strategies--data protection, infrastructure assurance, etc.

Where did PKI go wrong? There are many answers to explain why PKI (at least to date) has struck out. After spending years in the space, I've identified the following reasons.

Lousy name. For people without a background in security and cryptography (in other words, the majority), the term PKI is utterly nebulous. You've lost your potential customer by the time you explain what PKI means. Many say digital certificate infrastructure would have been a better name, but neither term rolls off the tongue like firewall or antivirus.

Security ignorance. The oft-quoted security dictum states: "If you think cryptography will solve the problem, then you don't understand cryptography and you don't understand your problem." This was also true of many who rushed to implement PKI simply because it was a cool technology promoted by IT prognosticators. Though PKI has many benefits, an organization without a clearly defined business need for it has no reason to implement it.

The "I" of PKI. The single biggest problem with PKI is that most people forgot the "infrastructure." PKI is a huge infrastructure project, unlike the preferred plug 'n' play solutions. While it's not rocket science, PKI is challenging because it's about reengineering a business infrastructure with an entirely new security architecture. PKI is 10 percent technology and 90 percent policies and procedures. Many early adopters didn't realize that enabling an enterprise to work with the certificates issued by a PKI server can take considerable time--months and even years.

PKI is new. Though the fundamentals of PKI were created in the 1970s, the implementation of PKI and the emergence of commercial PKI vendors didn't begin until the late 1990s. Many deployment and management problems occurred because the technology was as new to the vendors as it was to the customers.

Methodology. When discussing PKI deployment plans and methodologies, many customers were clueless. While CIOs aren't expected to know the minutiae of a PKI rollout, they need to know the fundamentals. Unfortunately, many CIOs didn't have a strategy for dealing with the multitude of non-PKI compliant in-house applications. They often wanted to roll out PKI deployments so badly that they lost sight of the big picture.

Liability issues. Infosecurity is about risk management, part of which is delineating liability for a specific course of action. With PKI rollouts, there was often a huge gap between who was liable for what in the event of a false positive or false negative.

Interoperability and lack of standards. Interoperability issues have long been a problem between users and PKI vendors. Interoperability led to the creation of the PKI Forum in early 2000, but it hasn't created many PKI standards. Without a common specification, users are left without a ubiquitous system for using digital certificates.

Legacy systems. While vendors constantly refine and improve applications, legacy systems continue to dominate many IT environments and often have zero PKI interoperability. Retrofitting is an option, but it's expensive and time consuming.

PKI is about establishing and maintaining a level of trust in the digital world. In the real world, trust is built through complex social, legal, national, international and business interactions that often take years or decades to develop. Unfortunately, establishing that same level of trust in cyberspace through technology is much harder. With Internet time being what it is, analysts demanding profits by quarter's end and digital trust meaning myriad different things to different people, PKI has been unable to escape its bad karma.


(Extensible Markup Language) XML-Signature Syntax and Processing

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/14/2002 10:08 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: (Extensible Markup Language) XML-Signature Syntax and Processing
also see ref for RFC index at: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.


RFC 3275

Title: (Extensible Markup Language) XML-Signature Syntax
and Processing
Author(s): D. Eastlake 3rd, J. Reagle, D. Solo
Status: Standards Track
Date: March 2002
Mailbox: Donald.Eastlake@xxxxxxxx, reagle@xxxxxxxx,
dsolo@xxxxxxxx
Pages: 73
Characters: 164198
Obsoletes: 3075

I-D Tag: draft-ietf-xmldsig-core-2-03.txt

URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3275.txt

This document specifies XML (Extensible Markup Language) digital signature processing rules and syntax. XML Signatures provide integrity, message authentication, and/or signer authentication services for data of any type, whether located within the XML that includes the signature or elsewhere.

This document is a product of the XML Digital Signatures Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Draft Standard Protocol.


Slashdot reports RSA keys under 2k insecure

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/14/2002 10:08 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Slashdot reports RSA keys under 2k insecure


following is posting that Bernstein made to sci.crypt today ....
I've sent the following comments to the reporter:


: My paper demonstrates that extremely long keys need to be made
: approximately 3.009 times longer for the same factoring cost. There's no
: ``might'' about this; it's a straightforward mathematical fact.
:
: My paper repeatedly emphasizes that the situation for short keys is much
: more difficult to analyze. It _asks_ what the practical situation is. It
: _asks_ whether 1536-bit keys can be factored at reasonable cost.
:
: Your comments about ``claimed speed improvements in practice'' and
: ``implying that encryption keys as long as 2048 bits can now be broken''
: are blatant misrepresentations of what my paper actually says.
:
: My paper is a grant proposal. It explains the huge improvement for long
: keys, and outlines a plan for carrying out the short-key analysis. The
: results of the short-key analysis will not be known for a few years.
:
: Making claims about what those results will be, before the analysis has
: been done, is scientifically irresponsible. I despise such behavior; I
: resent being accused of it; I expect you to post a correction.

---D. J. Bernstein, Associate Professor, Department of Mathematics,
Statistics, and Computer Science, University of Illinois at Chicago

t.c.jones@xxxxxxxx on 3/11/2002 6:15 pm wrote:

I talked to some cryptographers to see if this had any meaning for crypto practitioners.

As far as I can tell there is no example of any RSA key of 700 bits length being cracked (ie factored.)

If we assume that Bernstein can reducde the effort by 1,000,000 times, that is still only 20 bits.

If we assume that it will become 1,000,000 time easier to factor every year, that is 20 bits per year, or 15 years before 1000 bit RSA keys are at risk.

To be safe I tell people who want keys to last for 10 years to use 2048 bit keys. For the rest of us, 1024 bits should last for a long time.

..tom


> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/02/26/179206.shtml?tid=93


Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/14/2002 10:08 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud
reference to the GAO report was posted here couple weeks ago
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#19

http://www.thebankingchannel.com/printarticle.html?id=TBCWGCDL8UC<x-html>
Defense Dept. Criticized on Internal Credit Card Fraud From AmericanBanker

Federal investigators testified before a House Governmental Affairs subcommittee Wednesday that the Defense Department's efforts to curb credit card fraud by employees have been ineffective.

Commanding officers from the Navy Public Works Center and the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center, which were investigated by the General Accounting Office from November to February, also appeared at the hearing to pledge further reform. But the vows were met by stern words from skeptical lawmakers.

"We are now going to be considering a budget that requests an unprecedented increase in the defense budget, and I think it is appropriate to scrutinize every dollar, every million dollars, every billion dollars," said Janice D. Schakowsky, D-Ill.


Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 03/17/2002 01:23 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud
(possible resend?? ... I'm getting solid database corrupt, unable to allocate space error message when attempting to transfer this to the corporate server)

oh well, little finger fumble. i'm well known (infamous) for it (even 20 years ago).

there was a researcher in the early '80s that sat in the back of my office, went to me with meetings, got copies of all my email and logs of instant messages for a 9 month period. A detailed analysis turned into PhD sort of in CMC (computer mediated communication) ... joint between the language dept & computer AI dept at stanford (analysis of face-to-face, telephone, meeting, one-on-one, email, mailing lists, newsgroups, instant messages, etc ... compared & contrasted). Part of it including early computer conferencing with early mailing list technolgies (various precursors to current listserv & majordomo). There was also some subsequent books and papers published involving some of the same material (aka Knowledge Machines, Language and Information in a Technoligical Society).

random listserv/majordomo:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#225 BBSs vs. The Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#7 UNCITRAL Electronic Contracting Project
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#38 Vanishing Posts...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#39 Could CDR-coding be on the way back?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#19 What is "IBM-MAIN"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#33 LISTSERV(r) on mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#6 LISTSERV(r) on mainframes

misc. refs to stanford phd:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay2.htm#position AADS NWI and XML encoded X9.59 NWI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#205 Life-Advancing Work of Timothy Berners-Lee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#29 Title Inflation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#64 Programming in School (was: Re: Common uses...)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#51 "Have to make your bones" mentality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#27 OS Workloads : Interactive etc

slightly related:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#5 New IBM history book out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#6 New IBM history book out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#7 New IBM history book out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#31 Title Inflation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#10 Deleting files and emails at Arthur Andersen and Enron

tlewis@xxxxxxxx on 3/15/2002 7.04 pm wrote:
Definise Dept.? Is that the government deparment responsible for removing finesse from government publications? If so, they do their job extremely well.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Wheeler [mailto:lynn.wheeler@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:09 PM
To: Lewis, Tony
Subject: Definese Dept Criticised on Internal Credit Card Fraud


[dgc.chat] XML/X - part I

From: Lynn Wheeler
Date: 04/07/2002 07:41 PM
To: epay@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [dgc.chat] XML/X - part I
or get really wierd and start talking about TPC ACID properties.
Atomicity

Either the transaction completes, or nothing happens at all. When a transaction fails in the middle of operation, the operations that have taken place should be rolled back.

Consistency

A transaction must begin in a consistent state and leave the system in a consistent state.

Isolation

No other participants are allowed to access the intermediate results. All intermediate operations are performed in isolation. Outside participants are only allowed access once a consistent state has been reached.

Durability

Once a server has committed to a transaction, it completes the transaction even if it suffers a system failure.

ref: The Benchmark Handbook for Database and Transaction Processing Systems, Jim Gray, ed, Morgan Kaufmann.

random refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm8.htm#softpki19 DNSSEC (RE: Software for PKI)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#18 Computer of the century
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#29 20th March 2000
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#6 Disk drive behavior
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#7 New IBM history book out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#15 HP-UX will not be ported to Alpha (no surprise)exit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#5 IBM Mainframe at home

t.c.jones@xxxxxxxx on 3/27/2002 6:54 pm wrote:
Idempotency - whoa!

the same idea is included in ANSI X9.59 - it is call a LUID there. See the following snippet of XML that i proposed to implement it. ..tom
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<!--  ANSI X9.59 secure payment object definitions  -->
<!DOCTYPE X9Adocument (View Source for full doctype...)>
<XAdocument>
 <PAYREQ version="1">
  <Merchant name="Frank's Fraudulent Flea Market">1,5879156</Merchant>
  <Transaction payCode="x" LUID="113" startDate=""
endDate="20010628" merchantTrac="123-4567890">79541USD</Transaction>
  <Consumer>2,6652827</Consumer>
 </PAYREQ>
 <Result Action="Accept">200 OK</Result>
 <TOKSIG>2938d77e8a5f827</TOKSIG>
 <APPSIG>098d7a855f822b1</APPSIG>
</XAdocument>

> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:03:13 -0500 (EST)
> From: Ian Grigg <iang@xxxxxxxx>
> To: xml-api@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: [dgc.chat] XML/X - part I
> Cc: dbs@xxxxxxxx, dgcchat@xxxxxxxx
> Sender: owner-dgcchat@xxxxxxxx
> Reply-To: dgcchat@xxxxxxxx
>
> It is with some satisfaction that we announce the first
> public demonstration of a new project that we've been
> working on for the last six months.
>
> This demonstration is taking place at Java 1 this week,
> by Erwin Van der Koogh, a programmer with Sun's XML group
> in Dublin.  He's also a WebFunds programmer, having been
> primarily responsible for the current generation.
>
> You can check out a scratch home page for the project at:
>
>        http://www.webfunds.org/guide/xml/
>
> We were looking some time ago at the difficulty faced
> by the various merchants in implementing access to the
> current money providers.  As no merchant could really
> predict where the good money was, so to speak, it was
> pretty obvious that being able to implement a range of
> gold-based units was much less risky.
>
> But it was also rather impossible.  The transfer methods
> for the systems ranged from pretending to be a browser,
> to accessing partially complete protocols to .. nothing.
> None of the systems in place seem to appeal as none of
> them have actually been thought out from the point of
> view of what we know about protocols and networks.
>
> It behoved us to come up with our own spend system.  We
> were in the throes of developing our own web-based system,
> and we wanted that bit right.  After all, a lot of demand
> comes from the support of the merchant class (a group we
> christened as Matildas, but that's a story for another
> day).
>
> Others, such as Intertrader, were still smarting at the
> cost of having developed access for different systems,
> and not having been able to efficiently deploy it because
> of the system bugs imposed on them.  And, yet others
> simply didn't know where to start.
>
> It all begged for a standard.  We sat down and drew one
> up.  Now, because standards committees tend to be noisy,
> rumbunctious, and ultimately unproductive, unless they
> have a very solid mission to draw from, we decided not
> to make this a publicity thing in the beginning.  That
> is, we decided to write it first, then open it up.
>
> All well and good, and of course, we chose to do our
> transfer interface in XML.  We called it XML/X as a
> quick code name for the project, being transactions in
> XML.  The results will be open source, the documentation
> will be readily available, and no fees will be levied on
> joining or using.  Even though this project is about
> money, it makes more monetary sense to impose no barriers
> on its widespread adoption.
>
> A quick example might clarify what all this hyperbole is
> about.  Imagine you have some accounts at a standard DGC
> such as e-gold, goldmoney, or one of those other systems
> such as PayPal.  As a merchant, you want to initiate a
> transaction from your automated web system to pay out a
> customer.  Or vice versa.
>
> So, you open up a connection to the money server and
> send down a stream of commands to cause it to happen.
> Here's how you would do it in today's XML/X:
>
>      <TransferRequest>
>        <Transfer>
>          <ClientID> P9348235 </ClientID>
>          <Payee> E3491 </Payee>
>          <Payer> 34201-543 </Payer>
>          <Amount> 45.23 </Amount>
>          <Currency> Platinum </Currency>
>          <Memo> Slicker than Slick </Memo>
>        </Transfer>
>
>        <Auth>
>          <Username> iang </Username>
>          &