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IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
Search Google, 1960:s-style
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
Its the 30th birthday of the ARPANET transition to TCP/IP
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Search Google, 1960:s-style
From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
The Big Fail
AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Cultural attitudes towards failure
Java Security?
Java Security?
Java Security?
Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives
Java Security?
Java Security?
caches in virtual
How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists
Does the UK Government Really Want us to Report Fraud?
JPMorgan Chase slammed by regulators for control failings after botched derivatives bet
Kaspersky identifies 'Red October' cyberespionage network
DEC/PDP minicomputers for business in 1968?
ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system
Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives
More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC
AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
New HD
The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future
AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
New HD
Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
New HD
slightly O/T but interesting
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
IBM reveals a monster 36-core mainframe module
New HD
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
what makes a computer architect great?
OT -- hackers
what makes a computer architect great?
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
What is a Mainframe?
Lotus 1-2-3 rebooted: My trip back to the old (named) range
New HD
IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
mainframe "selling" points
mainframe "selling" points
mainframe "selling" points
OT: but hopefully interesting - Million core supercomputer

IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 01 Jan 2013
Subject: IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#11 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#19 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

There had been some use of securitized mortgages during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, I had been asked to work on improving the integrity of the securitized mortgage supporting documents ... as countermeasure to such fraud. However, in the congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the rating agencies played in the economic mess, the testimony was that the sellers were paying the rating agencies for triple-A when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew that they weren't worth triple-A. It turns out that triple-A rating trumps documentation and loan originators could start doing no-documentation loans. With no-documentation ... there is no longer an issue with integrity of the documents. A big motivation for paying for the triple-A ratings was to open the toxic CDO (securitized mortgage) market to large institutional retirement funds and other operations that are restricted to only dealing in such "safe" investments ... significantly contributed to being able to being able to do $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs during the mess:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

also with triple-A rating, the loan originators no longer needed to care about loan quality and/or borrowers qualifications (as well as no documentation). Number one on times list of those responsible for the financial mess:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

The issue of gov. forcing CRA loans is well under hundred billion and is primarily obfuscation and misdirection. Those loans don't even make a ripple in the economy compared to the $27T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs. AT $1B/inch, the CRA activity is well under a 100inch wave compared to the half-mile high tsunami wave from the $27T triple-A rated toxic CDOs.

The GAO reports are on public company financial restatements because the original public company financial statements were incorrect (either because of fraud and/or accounting errors). Under SOX, executives and auditors are liable for jail terms for filing incorrect financial statements ... but nothing was being done. Nearly all of the incorrect financial statements had corporations doing significantly better than shown in the restatements. News articles at the time of the reports were that major motivation for the fraudulent financial statements was to increase top executive bonuses ... and that even after the restatements (showing actual and primarily poorer corporate performance), the inflated bonuses weren't retracted.

At the time of passing of SOX, the joke was that nothing would actually change ... that SOX was just a full employment gift to the audit lobby. In 2004, I was invited to European conference of the CEOs and presidents of major European company and exchanges. The primary discussion was that SOX audit requirements (and costs) were leaking into Europe (issues with international corporations and cross-border operation). My discussion was how to fraudulently create audit records that would pass SOX audit ... assuming that auditors weren't part of the fraud. However, much of the events since then is that auditors and regulators weren't doing anything ... back to the original joke at the time SOX passed that it was purely a full-employment gift to the audit lobby.

from:
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp
... restatement announcements that we identified as having been made because of financial reporting fraud and/or accounting errors between October 1, 2005, and June 30, 2006.

... snip ...

SOX requires that SEC investigate to determine whether fraud and/or accounting errors ... but SEC wasn't doing anything. These are just GAO review of restatements not all public company financial statements (which also had nothing being done about).

for other drift ... there is a similar discussion in (linkedin) "Greater IBM" group started by this Forbes article:

IBM Leader in Gutting 401(k)s
http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsiedle/2012/12/18/ibm-leader-in-gutting-401ks/

with some cross-over from this group's discussion ... but w/o the books & articles references showing how things have gone downhill for workers over the past three decades.

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IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 01 Jan 2013
Subject: IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#11 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#19 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

The onerous audit provisions in SOX was supposedly justified that they would prevent any more erroneous public company financial filings ... in part (supposedly) by guaranteeing that top executives and auditors would do jail time. The GAO reports only looked at very small percentage of public company financial filings ... but showed that erroneous public company financial filings actually increased after SOX passed ... which would seem to negate the stated justification for having SOX .... however it did have a built in assumption that the SEC would actually do something.

Early 1980s there was a call for a 100% unearned profit tax on the US auto industry. The justification was that the foreign import quotas stated purpose was to reduce competition and give the industry highly profitable years where they would use the money to completely remake themselves. Instead the excess profits was used for executive compensation and stock dividends. Nearly a decade later, in 1990 the US auto industry had the C4 taskforce to completely remake themselves. Since they were planning on heavily leveraging technology ... representatives from major technology vendors were asked to participate. In the taskforce meetings, the industry could accurately describe the competitive landscape, the state of the US auto industry compared to the foreign competition ... and what the US auto industry needed to do to become competitive. However, the vested interests were too strong and they still weren't able to make the changes.

However, part of the issue was that the industry had restructured how it accounted for its business ... so that the profit from actually making and selling automobile is only 10% that of the profit from selling the auto loan. Something similar happened in the restructuring of GE during the same period ... where GE Financial accounting for half the bottom line (i.e. shifting the accounting so that the making and selling of something is cut to the bone ... and increasing amount of profit shows up as from the associated financial transaction which also has only a very tiny percentage of the employees). It is one of the reasons why ILCs came to be such prized commodities ... allowing the institutional owner to be able to originate loans in all 50 states w/o needing 50 individual state charters and/or a federal charter (auto loan origination wasn't nearly on the same magnitude as the mortgage origination problem).

The airline industry has done something similar. In the mid-90s, we were asked in to look at the ten impossible things in the largest airline reservation system. It turns out it was in period of time when the airline operation was loosing money but the parent company was making a significant profit because the profit made by the reservation system selling tickets. BTW. after two months, I returned with a completely different implementation that did all ten impossible things ... achieved by totally changing the approach and paradigm (which essentially hadn't changed since the 60s). They wanted it to disappear since it effectively commoditized the business ... ran 100 times faster as well as automating an enormous number of manual operations.

Note the above referenced article (and associated graphics)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/opinion/sunday/jobs-will-follow-a-strengthening-of-the-middle-class.html

effectively has had US worker compensation (pay plus benefits) essentially nearly flat since the late 70s.

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Search Google, 1960:s-style

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Search Google, 1960:s-style
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:17:01 -0500
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Banks Deeply Involved in FBI-Coordinated Suppression of "Terrorist" Occupy Wall Street
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/banks-deeply-involved-in-fbi-coordinated-suppression-of-terrorist-occupy-wall-street.html


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style

also ...

FBI knew of assassination plot against Occupy but gave no warning
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340232
FBI investigated Occupy Wall Street as 'domestic terrorists'
http://digitaljournal.com/article/339723
FBI Documents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring
http://www.justiceonline.org/commentary/fbi-files-ows.html

... and

Will The Next Bear Market Be A Planned Event Or A Failure Of Central Planning?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-01/guest-post-will-next-bear-market-be-planned-event-or-failure-central-planning
Will the Next Bear Market be a Planned Event or a Failure of Central Planning?
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2013/01/will-next-bear-market-be-planned-event.html

from above:
Consider the possibility that the banksters now effectively control the stock market in ways never before possible, using the NY Fed acting in concert with the dark pools, offshore shell companies and pass-through entities, PTFs, and high-frequency trading (HFT) via the for-profit exchanges. How much would it "cost" the primary dealers to manage the markets using leveraged derivatives, assuming a complicit counterparty or counterparties?

... snip ...

and from "Economists and the Powerful" pg88/loc1765-71:
To this day, the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which are in charge of regulating banks, are owned and governed by their member banks. Before the subprime crisis, this fact was never advertised and often concealed by the pretence that the Federal Reserve System was a public institution. It became a little more widely known when Stephen Friedman, board member and former head of Goldman Sachs, was forced to step down in 2009 as the chairman of the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. He had overstepped by making large deals with Goldman shares while presiding over the board of a Federal Reserve, which was intimately involved in rescuing the financial sector (including Goldman) with large amounts of public money. The Friedman case exposed the fact that there are no safeguards against bankers using their control over the Federal Reserve Banks to promote the interest of banks at the expense of the public.

... snip ...

as well as pg56/1177-80
In July 2009, Sergey Aleynikov, a US and Russian national, was arrested on charges of theft just after he left his job as a programmer at Goldman Sachs. He had copied the trading program of the firm, on which he had been working, and transferred it to a server in Germany. What makes this case interesting is the warning that prosecutor Joseph Faccioponte issued based on information from Goldman Sachs. He said that because of the way this software interfaces with the various markets and exchanges it could be used to "manipulate markets in unfair ways."

... snip ...

some followup:

Dear SEC, This Is HFT "Cheating" At Its Most Obvious. Regards, Everyone Else
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-04/dear-sec-hft-cheating-its-most-obvious-regards-everyone-else

The HFT-Induced Extinction Of Retail Investors
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-06/guest-post-hft-induced-extinction-retail-investors

High-frequency stock trading of little value to investors, public
http://news.illinois.edu/news/13/0110highfrequencytrading_MaoYe.html

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:40:55 -0500
hancock4 writes:
Could you give some details of IBM unncessary complexity in its mainframe products?

I've frequently referred to the major objective of FS was enormously increased (hardware & software) complexity as countermeasure to clone controllers (as well as tight integration). The huge complexity resulted in a lot of vaporware contributing to demise of FS ... but also the enormous complexity contributed to significant throughput issues (the projected/modeled throughput also contributed to demise of the effort).

Also, the internal politics during FS killing off &/or suspending 370 efforts is credited with giving clone processors a market foothold.

with the demise of FS, there was a mad rush to get products back into the 370 product pipelines ... both kicking off 3033 (remaped 370/168 logic remapped to 20% faster chips) and 3081 (other warmed over FS technology). some discussed here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

the enormous convoluted complexity of SNA and the vtam/ncp implementation is given as example of the FS objectives that continued after the demise of FS.

past posts mentioning Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

However, during the 3033 product cycle (and later into 3081), there were microcode features added to 3033 for MVS operation that have been claimed to specifically be to thwart clone processor competition (folklore that some of the 3033/mvs microcode features were claimed to be justified on providing faster performance, actually resulted in slower performance). Futhermore, latest releases with the newest features were done such that they wouldn't operate w/o the latest microcode enhancements.

Later in the early 80s, there was foklore that one of the clone processor competitors responded to the sporadic microcode changes with "MACROCODE" layer. The highend 370 processors were done with horizontal microcode that was very expensive and time-consuming to change. MACROCODE was a modified 370 instruction set that operated in special hardware mode that could provide microcode like function but w/o the enormous overhead, delay, and expense needed for real (horizontal) microcode development. MACROCODE was so successful that not only did it significantly cut the time&effort to respond to what appeared to be the nearly constant IBM (hardware/microcode) feature changes, but also allowed the development of their own vendor specific added value features (an example was the machine/microcode hypervisor)

misc. past posts mentioning macrocode:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned programming language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#42 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#26 Op codes removed from z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#93 Irrational desire to author fundamental interfaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#102 Question on PR/SM dispatcher

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HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 02 Jan 2013
Subject: HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
... note cumulative thread started 12Dec

HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
http://compliancex.com/hsbcs-settlement-leaves-us-in-a-scary-place/

Stories dating back a couple years referencing how TBTF drug cartel money laundering is turning Mexico into Colombia: GLBA -> repeal glass-steagall -> TBTF -> too-big-to-jail -> big upswing in drug cartel money laundering -> bug upswing in cartel drug violance

Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213

Neil Barofsky: Too Big to Jail -- Our Banking System's Latest Disgrace
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/neil-barofsky-too-big-to-jail-our-banking-systems-latest-disgrace.html

Note with regard to fraudulent financial filings, possibly because GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports on public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing an uptic after sarbanes-oxley (aka chose 1) SOX had no effect on fraudulent filings, 2) SOX encouraged fraudulent filings, 3) if it hadn't been for SOX, all filings would now be fraudulent).
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-395R .
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-678 .
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp

Bloomberg TV picked up on the too-big-to-jail theme this morning

The Punishment and the Crime; Banks Don't Go to Prison
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/21/banks-dont-go-to-prison/

something similar in the libor discussion calling for the death penalty

UBS Libor Manipulation Deserves the Death Penalty
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-23/ubs-libor-manipulation-deserves-the-death-penalty.html
and
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-24/does-libor-manipulation-deserve-death-penalty

also, responsible regulators that were informed early and did nothing ... can they be prosecuted under RICO provisions.

tv playing in the background, I'm not paying any attention ... am using my computer doing other stuff. Something catches my ear and turn around to check. Leverage (season finale) is playing ... and there are these (false) flashbacks ... staged events to look like something else, all obfuscation and misdirection. They are after the world LEO agencies' file on the investigation of the crimes in the financial mess where 1000 make off with 1/3rd of the world's wealth. It all leads up to the team walking off with the physical disk containing the file (the world LEO agencies decided to deep six the investigations and not prosecute).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverage_%28TV_series%29

Number one on times list of those responsible:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

Wharton article (behind paywall, but lives free at wayback machine) estimating 1000 responsible for majority of the mess:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606084328/http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1933

Insight: How Colombian drug traffickers used HSBC to launder money
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/01/us-hsbc-idUSBRE90002Q20130101

from above
But to U.S. authorities the case was anything but ordinary. Chaparro, prosecutors alleged, helped run a money-laundering ring for drug traffickers that took advantage of lax controls at UK-based international banking group HSBC Holdings Plc. It was one of the most important leads for U.S. investigators pursuing a case against the bank that eventually led to a $1.9 billion settlement on December 11.

... snip ...

too-big-to-jail

other recent posts mentioning too-big-to-jail:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#20 HSBC, SCB Agree to AML Penalties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#24 OCC Confirms that Big Banks are Badly Managed, Lack Adequate Risk Management Controls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#39 UBS Faces Potential LIBOR Fine Of $1 Billion -- Twice What Barclays Paid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#48 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

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Its the 30th birthday of the ARPANET transition to TCP/IP

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Its the 30th birthday of the ARPANET transition to TCP/IP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:16:07 -0500
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#65 Its the 30th birthday of the ARPANET transition to TCP/IP

some old previously posted email about possible ARPANET service disruption (sent to csnet-liaisons distribution list)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email821230
followup that there are still lingering problems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email830202

old posts with either &/or both of the above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#18 Is Al Gore The Father of the Internet?^
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#3 Arpa address

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:42:47 -0500
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
I think it's unnecesarily complex, yes. IBM tried LEN (low entry networking) (and APPN?) to try to simplify the mess. Compared to TCP/IR it's terrible.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

for a time, the person responsible for APPN and I reported to the same person ... I kept needling him to come work on "real" networking (aka tcp/ip) and stop trying to add networking to SNA (aka "real" SNA doesn't have a networking layer), and that the SNA crowd was never go to appreciate him. In fact, when it came for APPN to be announce, the SNA group non-concurred (aka didn't want it to be announced). APPN announcement was held up for several weeks ... eventually the APPN announcement letter was released ... carefully crafted as to not imply any relationship between SNA and AAPN.

misc. past posts mentioning APPN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#51 APPC vs TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#53 APPC vs TCP/IP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#89 "Database" term ok for plain files?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#54 WHAT IS A MAINFRAME???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#31 3745 and SNI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#28 Buffer overflow
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#54 Computer Naming Conventions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#43 Beginning of the end for SNA?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#48 Why did OSI fail compared with TCP-IP?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#12 Why did OSI fail compared with TCP-IP?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#48 Why did OSI fail compared with TCP-IP?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#20 Vnet : Unbelievable
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#49 unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#9 Why did TCP become popular ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#55 History of Computer Network Industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#2 History of Computer Network Industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#39 Mainframe Emulation Solutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#12 network history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#31 IBM 3705 and UC.5
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#8 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#9 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#15 DUMP Datasets and SMS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#20 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#52 Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#21 Sending CONSOLE/SYSLOG To Off-Mainframe Server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#45 Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#48 6400 impact printer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#49 6400 impact printer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#55 Is computer history taugh now?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#39 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#62 Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#46 Are there tasks that don't play by WLM's rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#10 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#42 windows time service
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#61 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#37 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#56 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#26 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#3 VTAM security issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#43 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#83 Small Server Mob Advantage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#62 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#29 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#73 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#26 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#41 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#68 ESCON
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#13 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#52 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history

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From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 03 Jan 2013
Subject: From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
Blog: IBMers
From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight; The airline's still revamping core legacy apps, only in a different way.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234936/From_build_to_buy_American_Airlines_changes_modernization_course_midflight_

from above:
The plan still calls for a gradual migration off of an inflexible and outdated mainframe architecture in favor of a modern, distributed computing platform. But while the FOS focus has always been buy rather than build whenever possible, the focus for the PSS project has turned sharply away from rewriting all of the applications that make up the system in house in favor of buying existing software whenever possible and modifying it as needed.

... snip ...

you may be interested in this part of one of the latest post in (IBMers) "Here is the Latest Email That Has Outraged Some IBM Employees" discussion (which has gotten quite long-winded and wandered into several aspects of IBM business):

"The airline industry has done something similar. In the mid-90s, we were asked in to look at the ten impossible things in the largest airline reservation system. It turns out it was in period of time when the airline operation was loosing money but the parent company was making a significant profit because the profit made by the reservation system selling tickets. BTW. after two months, I returned with a completely different implementation that did all ten impossible things ... achieved by totally changing the approach and paradigm (which essentially hadn't changed since the 60s). They wanted it to disappear since it effectively commoditized the business ... ran 100 times faster as well as automating an enormous number of manual operations."

... aka the dataprocessing and airline reservation system was separated from the operation of the airline.

posts in that discussion:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#11 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#19 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#1 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

first time I had seem something similar was in summer of 1969 ... while still an undergraduate I was brought in to Boeing (some slight of hand since I was listed as mid-level full-time employee ... even tho I was undergraduate and it was for the summer) to help set up Boeing Computer Services (I was among the first half dozen or so employees). Dataprocessing was being moved into its own unit to help monetize the operation (allowing it to sell services outside the corporation in addition to its internal operational responsibilities). Core of BCS was coporate dataprocessing which had 360/30 for doing payroll. There were all sorts of politics involved taking over dataprocessing in the other operations. Renton datacenter had couple hundred million in 360s ... the summer of 1969, 360/65s were arriving faster than they could be installed ... the halls around the perimeter of the renton datacenter constantly had pieces of 2-3 360/65s waiting to be installed.

Renton datacenter then was in the process of being replicated at the new 747 plant (there is disaster scenario where mt. rainier warms up resulting in massive mud slide that takes out the renton datacenter).

At the time, I thought Renton was possibly the largest 360/mainframe datacenter in the world. Later I would sponsor Col Boyd's briefings at IBM ... his biographies has him doing stint in command of "spook base" (about the same time I was at Boeing) ... also mentions that it was a $2.5B windfall for IBM (nearly $20B in today's dollars). posts & URLs from around the WEB mentioning Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:49:37 -0500
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
Bad management can engender complexity even from a clean design. I believe that George Mealy termed the process "the rape of the design integrity of OS/360".

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#6 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

there is also the hordes versus small highly skilled & experienced. in many situations the hordes of inexperienced progrommers were given designs that had been "thrown over the wall" (aka all the skill was in the design and thousands of inexperienced programmers were expected to turn out the code like an assembly line).

the argument was used at the science center in the 60s where there was 12 people doing cp67/cms ... and something like 1200 involved in tss/360. tss/360 was "decommitted" and the group reduced to something like 20. by the late 70s, the (then) tss/370 had turned into a much better product ... and early 80s, I was involved in some analysis comparing tss/370 with the then vm370. a couple old references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#24 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#25 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#53 TSS/360

of course vm370 had suffered because of the constant threats from POK to kill it off. in the wake of the FS failure ... POK had even convinced corporate to kill vm370, shutdown the development group and move everybody to POK for MVS/XA (or otherwise MVS/XA wouldn't make its ship schedule 7-8 yrs later). Endicott finally was able to save the vm370 product mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch ... combination of little or no experience or experience in doing totally different kind of operating system (combination severely polluting vm370 product).

there was joke scenario that the frequent near disasters by the hordes in POK resulted in justification in increasing the size of the their organizations (solution was always more people). Executive corporate standing was nearly always proportional to size of the associated organization ... so the more near failures requiring more & more people ... resulted in increasingly higher corporate standing rather than the reverse (in effect efficiently executing a plan with a couple tens of people resulted in less corporate standing). The associated corollary was that heads rolled uphill.

btw, the tss/370 analysis was part of something that was for a time referred to as "ZM" ... proposing for doing new kernel from scratch, misc. past posts mentioning "ZM" effort:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#27 VM/SP sites that allow free access?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#25 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#53 TSS/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#46 Blinking lights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#61 Google Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#35 PKI Implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#14 Z/OS--anything new?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#56 Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#57 ANN: Microsoft goes Open Source
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#63 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#17 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#72 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#51 Information on obscure text editors wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#5 Does an 'operator error' counts as a 'glitch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#20 IBM Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#35 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#57 Regarding Time Sharing

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:11:23 -0500
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
What's unnecessary for some may be necessary for others. In actuality IBM designs its software for their largest customers, their 1%, so the other 99% of us have to put up with a lot of "stuff" we don't want or need.

there was recent article that IBM revenue is 25% from their mainframe business ... with only four percent being actual mainframe hardware sales ... the rest is software, services, and storage ... that puts the total mainframe costs (revenue for ibm, costs to the customer) at 6.25 times the direct computer costs.

A max. configured z196 with 80 processors and rated at 50BIPS has a price tag of $28M ... the 6.25 multiplier implies that total customer costs is closer to $175M for such a system (including software, services and storage).

There has also been claims that there are no more than 10,000 mainframe systems in operation in the world currently. However, the total annual mainframe hardware revenue ... translates into only approx. 180 max. configured z196 systems.

some of the large financial operations have had datacenters with 40 or more max configured mainframe systems (and will have multiple such datacenters) implying a very large chunk of the mainframe business comes from a relatively few very large customers (which are constantly upgrading to the latest hardware). the rest is a whole lot of lingering legacy stuff.

to keep current with maintenance requires periodically upgrading to the latest systems (as maintenance is dropped for older software) ... and even though a lot is made of 1960s customer application software still being able to run on the latest processors ... periodically upgrading to latest system software (to stay with service maintenance) also requires periodically buying new mainframe systems.

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From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 03 Jan 2013
Subject: From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
Blog: Enterprise Systems
From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight; The airline's still revamping core legacy apps, only in a different way.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234936/From_build_to_buy_American_Airlines_changes_modernization_course_midflight_

similar discussion in linkedin IBMers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#7 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

Note that HP bought EDS, a large dallas mainframe services&consulting firm. EDS had previously been bought by GM and then spun-off ... but with long-term (decade?) EDS contracts. HP is recently in the news this week over several top people leaving and joining GM.

So HP is also major PC company having bought compaq (dec, tandem, etc).

Some of the higher value applications aren't as vendor cost sensitive ... but for those that can be a big issue. max configured z196 with 80 processors is rated at 50BIPS and goes for $28M or $560,000/BIPS.

Major blade server component in clouds and other distributed efforts is e5-2600 which has processing rating of 527BIPS and IBM has base price of $1815(although major cloud vendors claim they do blades for 1/3rd the cost of brand name price) or $3.44/BIPS.

FCS effort originally started in 1988 with work on stardardizing some technology in use at LLNL. Later in the 90s, ibm channel engineers became involved with layering protocol on top of FCS ... significantly restricting FCS thruput called FICON.

Recent peak z196 i/o benchmark has 104 FICON channels with 14 storage subsystems and 14 system assist processors peaking at 2M IOPS. However it comments that 14 z196 SAPs peak at 100% busy with 2.2m SSCH/sec and recommends operating SAPs at no more than 70% busy (or 1.5m/sec).

In comparison there was recent (single/individual) FCS (announced for e5-2600) claiming over million IOPS (compared to max 2M IOPS for 104 FICON channels ... FICON being an enormously heavyweight protocol layer on top of underlying FCS).

Further comparison is that IBM aggregate mainframe customer revenue is 6.25 times the base hardware revenue ... rest coming from storage, services, and software ... i.e. the cost of a $28M z196 comes closer to $175M (when the rest of the IBM costs are factored in) or $3.5M/BIPS (compared to $3.44/BIPS for e5-2600)

one of the issues is that for a long time risc processors had significant throughput advantage over 86 processors having had out-of-order execution, branch prediction, speculative executive, etc for decades. However, the recent 86 processor generations have been risc cores with hardware layer translating 86 instructions into risc micro-ops. Part of the issue is the significant cost of cache misses ... when a cache-miss memory access elapsed time is measured in processor cycles ... it tends to be on the same order as the number of 360s processor cycles that it took to do a disk access (in the 60s). out-of-order execution is basically a simple attempt to get additional work done while processor is stalled with instruction waiting for memory operation.

Z10 with 64 processors is rated at 30BIPS or 469MIPS/processor. The z196 with 80 processors is rated a 50BIPS or 625MIPS/processor ... much of the improvement is attributed to the introduction of out-of-order execution (something that has been in risc processors for decades). The zEC12 with 101 processors is rated at 75BIPS or 743MIPS/processor ... again much of the gain is attributed to further improvements of out-of-order technology.

By comparison an e5-2600 blade is dual 8core chips or 16 processors with rating of 527BIPS is 33BIPS/processor ... aka each processor is more than fully configured Z10 ... and the two chips are over ten times that of fully configured z196. Also note that while zEC12 with 75BIPS is 50% more processor than z196 (@50BIPS), the press mentions that it expects only 30% more DBMS throughput (max zEC12 compared to max z196).

There is also recent press that the brand name vendors (HP, IBM, DELL, etc) are no longer the major consumers of server chips ... that the big cloud operations (both private and public) are buying the chips directly and building their own servers ... in some cases hundreds of thousands at a time.

other recent discussions about z196 max i/o benchmark:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#4 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#5 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#13 Intel Confirms Decline of Server Giants HP, Dell, and IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#28 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#43 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#67 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than any of the other countries in the world including the USA.?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#13 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#48 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#70 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#72 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#6 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#21 Assembler vs. COBOL--processing time, space needed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#25 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#46 Random thoughts: Low power, High performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#5 What is a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#12 HCF [was Re: AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series "Halt &Catch Fire"]

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How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 04 Jan 2013
Subject: How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#46 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

very small part of fighting BUREAUCRACY discussion from Tandem Memos, spring 1981 (which was a decade old at that time ... linkeding/browser/web won't preserve the original spacing)


+-----------------------------------------+
|           "BUSINESS ECOLOGY"            |
|                                         |
|                                         |
|            +---------------+            |
|            |  BUREAUCRACY  |            |
|            +---------------+            |
|                                         |
|           is your worst enemy           |
|              because it -               |
|                                         |
|      POISONS      the mind              |
|      STIFLES      the spirit            |
|      POLLUTES     self-motivation       |
|             and finally                 |
|      KILLS        the individual.       |
+-----------------------------------------+

"I'M Going To Do All I Can to Fight This Problem . . ."
by T. Vincent Learson, Chairman

also redistributed in tandem memos:
Management Briefing
Number 1-72: January 18,1972
ZZ04-1312

TO ALL IBM MANAGERS:

Once again, I'm writing you a Management Briefing on the subject of bureaucracy. Evidently the earlier ones haven't worked. So this time I'm taking a further step: I'm going directly to the individual employees in the company. You will be reading this poster and my comment on it in the forthcoming issue of THINK magazine. But I wanted each one of you to have an advance copy because rooting out bureaucracy rests principally with the way each of us runs his own shop.

We've got to make a dent in this problem. By the time the THINK piece comes out, I want the correction process already to have begun. And that job starts with you and with me.

Vin Learson


... snip ...

How to Stuff a Wild Duck

"We are convinced that any business needs its wild ducks. And in IBM we try not to tame them." - T.J. Watson, Jr.

"How To Stuff A Wild Duck", 1973, IBM poster
https://collection.cooperhewitt.org/objects/18618011/

and as mentioned in Ferguson & Morris book, the internal culture got much worse during Future System effort and the subsequent failure.

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How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 04 Jan 2013
Subject: How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#46 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

sort of goes along with Watson's "Wild Duck" (employees) and the "how to stuff a wild duck" poster. Note that in the recent IBM centennial there was a "wild duck" segment ... but it was not an employee (the idea of non-conformist employee has evaporated) but was a "wild duck" customer. Post from fall of 2011 in "Greater IBM" group in "What is IBM culture" ... about "wild duck"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1
and post with url reference to the "IBM Centennial Film: Wild Ducks" on youtube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#30

related post this year in another "Greater IBM" discussion "Original Thinking Is Hard, Where Good Ideas Come From":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#59
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#72

above has URL for image of the IBM "how to stuff a wild duck" poster (aka take-off on Learson's bureaucracy "kills" the individual).

and I've reproduced the above post with the spacing preserved in Learson's poster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11

you could declare Jan18 "T. Vincent Learson fight bureaucracy & don't kill the individual" day ... also "Watson don't tame the wild duck" day

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0500
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
I know I meant Advanced Function Printing. Looks like I typo'd it.

there was numerous of us that left the same day in summer of 1992.

one of the people that I had known & worked on&off with since the early 70s had done a lot of work on AFP ... afterwards he wrote some non-mainframe support for AFP output ... being able to archive AFP output as well display/print on wide variety of devices. I did part of the versioning and archiving of different pieces of AFP output. He had some of the major banks & credit card processors as customers. One of the issues was that the contents of a statement was separate from the format and common elements of the statement ... one of the objectives was that help desk and call center support could pull up exact representation on PC display of the customer's credit card &/or bank statement. While the versioning of the statement common elements could change from month to month ... it was necessary to exactly reconstruct the display from the specific version of common elements as well as the customer's specific elements (as well as have call-center support be able to generate exact printed duplicate on non-mainframe printer to mail out as replacement statement).

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:34:46 -0500
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
CMS is not a time sharing system. However, since the CP-67 days people have been running, e.g., OS/360 MVT, in a virtual machine.

VMS/SP ultimately added GCS, a multitasking operating system used to run, e.g., VTAM. I believe that the current version of CMS has multitasking, but don't know the details or when the support came along.


similar but different ... there was vm370 kernel support for fork, virtual page copy-on-write ... etc for low-level unix running under vm370. This is different than the UTS & aix/370 support which were guest virtual machines ... where the guest did all the stuff w/o additional assistance from vm370 (aka and effectively what cms multitasking is also doing).

I had sponsored advanced technlogy conference spring of 1982
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a

... first after advanced technology was severely cut back in the wake of demise of future system effort ... when lots of corporate resources "pivoted" to mad rush getting products back into the 370 product pipeline ... some past future system posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

one of the talks was the vm/370 support for unix (i.e. direct address space fork support, scheduling of the address spaces, concurrent execution, etc).

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Search Google, 1960:s-style

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Subject: Re: Search Google, 1960:s-style
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:56:56 -0500
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#2 Search Google, 1960:s-style

White House Petition Pushes For Trillion-Dollar Platinum Coin
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/trillion-dollar-coin-petition_n_2409704.html
Trillion dollar coin
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-trillion-dollar-coin-and-the-republican-debt-ceiling-fight-2013-1
Trillion Dollar Coin To Wipe Out U.S. Debt
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1095921-trillion-dollar-coin-to-wipe-out-u-s-debt

Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
loc754-62:

In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."

leads up to to the deal with wallstreet creating the Federal Reserve.

overall the book reads like precursor to
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405

and the inequality part reads like precursor to
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/opinion/sunday/jobs-will-follow-a-strengthening-of-the-middle-class.html

extended the graph
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html

to higher peaks through much of the 1800s

past posts mentioning "vampire squid" &/or inequality
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#21 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#130 vampires in financial infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#77 Vampire Squid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#7 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#80 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#3 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#27 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#48 Thousands Of IBM Employees Got A Nasty Surprise Yesterday: Here's The Email They Saw
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#13 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#53 CALCULATORS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#85 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#39 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#42 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#65 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#44 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#1 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

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From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 06 Jan 2013
Subject: From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#7 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
and in "Enterprise System" group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

The issue wasn't directly that z196 was only 80 processors ... it was that a max configured z196 was $28M (which happens to be 80 processors) or $175M when fully loaded comes in (based on ratio of all IBM mainframe revenue to just IBM mainframe hardware revenue)... that at 50BIPS rating it comes out to $560,000/BIPS or fully loaded $3.5M/BIPS. Compared to IBM base price of $1815 for e5-2600 blade at 527BIPS which comes out to $3.44/BIPS. Mainframe price/BIPS premium is 1,000,000 times.

At announced annual mainframe hardware revenue, it comes out to be approx. 180 fully configured z196 per year. There as been estimate that there are no more than 10,000 mainframe systems worldwide (of all kinds). If every one was a max configured z196 that would be a world-wide mainframe processing aggregate of 500TIPS ... however, more realistic based on total mainframe sales over past decade, the total world-wide mainframe processing capacity is no more than 5-10TIPS. Any one of the large number of public cloud mega-datacenters with several millions of cores ... are into the thousands of TIPS range ... (any one of the numerous cloud mega-datacenters has several orders of magnitude more processing than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today). Recent press is that the brand name vendors (HP, DELL, IBM, etc) are no longer the major customer of server chips ... it is the big cloud operations (both private and public) that build their own servers ... which have claimed that they build their servers at 1/3rd the price of brand name servers ... that would put mainframe processor capacity at 3,000,000 times price premium over what is being deployed in large cloud operations (as well as several orders of magnitude short in processing capacity).

disclaimer: long ago and far away, my wife was con'ed into going to POK to be responsible for loosely-coupled architecture where she created Peer-Coupled Shared Data architecture. She didn't remain long, in part because of poor uptake (except for IMS hotstandy) until SYSPLEX. misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

when we were doing High Availability Cluster Multi-Processing scale-up, I was asked to do write a section for the corporate continuous availability strategy document ... however the section was pulled when both Rochester and POK complained that they couldn't meet the same requirements (either in terms of availability or aggregate processing capacity for both DBMS operation as well as scientific and numeric intensive). misc. past ha/cmp posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
and continuous availability posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available

Note that aa/saber has been on leading/bleading edge for loosely-coupled scale-up and availability for decades. One of my wife's failures while in POK and responsible for loosely-coupled architecture was fixing trotter (aka 3088, 8-way ctca) ... mainstream was focused on faster processors and not multiple cec operation, trotter being minimum necessary over ctca to expand to 8-way interconnect). For a time, AA/saber ran HYPERchannel as interconnect for mainframe system scale-up (in part because of 3088 shortcomings).

misc. past posts mentioning e5-2600 $3.44/BIPS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#95 printer history Languages influenced by PL/1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#96 The older Hardware school
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#20 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#27 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#28 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#42 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#51 Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#81 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#13 Intel Confirms Decline of Server Giants HP, Dell, and IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#31 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#43 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#67 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than any of the other countries in the world including the USA.?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#13 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#44 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#48 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#25 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#26 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing

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Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 06 Jan 2013
Subject: Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%.
Blog: Enterprise Systems
re:
http://lnkd.in/mjYX6H
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#31 Still think the mainframe is going away soon: Think again. IBM mainframe computer sales are 4% of IBM's revenue; with software, services, and storage it's 25%

Note that the issue with z196 @ $3.5M/BIPS and e5-2600 @ $3.44/BIPS isn't two orders of magnitude (aka percents) ... it is six orders of magnitude (factor of million times). Recent news is that major server vendors (HP, DELL, IBM, etc) are no longer the major customer of server processor chips ... it is the large cloud operations (public & private) that are buying the server chips directly and creating their own servers ... they've been claiming that they can do it for 1/3rd the price of brand name servers ... dropping price/BIPS to close to a dollar (factor of 3 million times).

In part because the computer costs have dropped so drastically ... it is becoming relatively small percentage (say couple million for more processing than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today) of total cloud mega-datacenter cost operation ... as a result the large cloud operations have become the major force behind drastically reducing all the other datacenter costs; power, cooling, administrative, packaging, floor-space, maintenance, etc. Also in the cloud operation with enormous "on-demand" requirements they've also been major driver behind systems designs that drop to near zero power consumption when idle and being able to instantaneously come to full operation.

Various reports over the last year have been about "on-demand" public cloud customers being able to spin-up several hundred TIPS processing capacity (more than the aggregate of all mainframe processing in the world today) for a couple hrs and then turn it off ... all electronically without even speaking to anybody at the cloud vendor (including paying for it with credit card). The going rate has been dropping ... but covers total datacenter costs .... including provisioning and capital costs of idle on-demand resources ... was around $5/TIPS per hr a year ago (aka TIPS is a thousand BIPS)

IBM hardware revenue has been relatively steady for the past several years ... about equally divided between power/risc, i86, and mainframe ... if anything mainframe slightly dropping in absolutely dollars ... which also seems to be a decreasing piece of the computer market ... with previous mention that brand name vendors (HP, DELL, IBM, etc) are no longer the major customers for i86 server chips ... that the big cloud operations (both public and private) now are longer customer base ... also large cloud operation (as well as competition) helping drive lots of the optimization work that has been going on in the server chip market place

I think most recent revenue was 83% software & services and 17% everything else ... with 4% being mainframe hardware ... leaving 13% for everything else ... which would seem to be slight increase for power/risc and i86 (previously the three hardware server lines being about 5% each).

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How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 06 Jan 2013
Subject: How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#46 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#12 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

more from Learson
A few weeks ago this poster arrived in the mail from a "group of concerned employees." They didn't sign it, apparently because they didn't know what I'd think of it.

I wish they HAD signed it because that's the way I like to receive mail, and because I'd like to have told them personally just this: I think it's exactly on target. I agree with it completely.

When I suggested we publish it, one general manager said, "Not unless you announce some new action to go with it."

Well, we've done just that. You will find at the beginning of this issue details about our recent organization changes.

Months ago I sent out a Management Briefing to condemn a principle feature of bureaucracy--the tendency of some people in IBM to pass the buck, play it safe, run from risks. But today we have still too many orginizational procedures, still too many safeguards to keep people out of trouble, still too much refusal to delegate, still too much group thinking--the kind that almost never produces brilliant insight or decisive action.

Some signs are in the wind that many of you are beginning to rebel against excessive administration. This poster is one such sign. Another is a series of complaints I've been getting from IBMers giving examples of what they call "spinning our wheels": The army of sign-offs needed to approve a new product; the multiplication of task forces--proof that the assigned team has broken down; internal competition that ceases to be productive; minor non- concurrences, just for the record, which escalate simple decisions.

One of our top facility managers recently told me that no subject of any consequence could come up in his location without somebody's calling a meeting and having 30 people show up. His observation in itself proves his inability to correct this problem. Another IBMer wrote to me, almost in despair, of his concern--middle management has no conviction--and ended his letter, "Mr. Learson, maybe our company is too big to be productive. I sometimes yearn for the days when we were innovative and responsive to customer needs."

I'm seriously distrubed by the signs of bureaucracy, especially in times like these. And I'm delighted that people are calling a halt. Here's an assurance I want to give you: In this new year, I'm going to do all I can to fight this problem in these ways:

• Through taking a continuing hard look at the company's organization, in light of this problem, to see how we can tighten up;

• Through getting people at the top of the business to focus more on long-term goals, less on day-to-day monitoring;

• Through encouraging people to take on accountability for a job, leaving them the details of how they do it;

• Through pushing decisions down the ladder where they belong, giving more IBMers a chance to exercise responsibility.

On all these projects I want your help.

• Question every procedure: if it doesn't make sense, break your back to replace it with one that does;

• Lean into the wind: don't take yesterday's prescription as an answer tomorrow;

• Don't go by the rule book and use the system as an excuse for senseless action or no action at all;

• Finally, move the ball forward by doing the little things: picking up the phone, making a quick call and getting the job done yourself; getting out of your office chair and walking to where the answer is; following through on something without bringing in an international conference to help you; scribbling a note instead of having it typed with 20 copies; trying to keep your organization small and your responsibilities increasing.

If you are a manager, I expect you to FIND, RECOGNIZE, and REWARD people with this kind of style. No employee should ever again have to write me on this subject. If all of us get as hot under the collar as the IBMers who sent me this poster, maybe we can start to turn this whole bureaucracy thing around.
... snip ...

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How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 06 Jan 2013
Subject: How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
Blog: IBMers
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#46 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#12 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#12 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

Date: 05/11/81 13:14:47
From: wheeler
To: ..

i don't question your need to know. I normally freely exchange information with anybody (one of my prime interests is to promote as much information exchange as possible, see refs. to SHARE, etc.). Questioning you fulfilled my duty to IBM which has been hinting that all redistribution of all files be stopped. I said that I would limit my redistribution to active participants & gave them a list of those people as of two weeks ago. Since then the list has somewhat expanded as other people contribute what they have to say.

I view the Tandem memo as a variation of computer conferencing & similar to what the VM group in SHARE has established with VMSHARE. There is a free exchange of thots & information on a special userid (VMSHARE) on the Tymshare VM service. Almost any SHARE member anywhere in the world can log onto VMSHARE and contribute what they have to say. Tymshare uses a VM based system to provide services to its customers. The VMSHARE data base is maintained in one location & among other things available is a keyword search of all information. It is interesting to note that Tymshare provides better & more sophisticated service (essentially) for free to the Share organization & its members (lots of different companies, even some who are competitors of Tymshare) than IBM provides to its own internal users.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

note TYMSHARE made its online computer conferencing available to SHARE for free starting in Aug1976. archive here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
sometimes(?) "404" ... but also at wayback machine
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/

one of the big bureaucratic issues that I had was getting VMSHARE information made available inside the company. I had set up a process to get regular distribution tapes of all VMSHARE information from Tymshare to be placed on various internal networked systems (including HONE, the world-wide sales&marketing support system). It turns out first I had to spend a lot of time dealing with corporate lawyers because executives were worried that making VMSHARE information available inside the company would contaminant employees. misc. old email mentioning vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
misc. old email mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone

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The Big Fail

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 06 Jan 2013
Subject: The Big Fail
Blog: Facebook
The Big Fail
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/opinion/krugman-the-big-fail.html

from above:
It's that time again: the annual meeting of the American Economic Association and affiliates, a sort of medieval fair that serves as a marketplace for bodies (newly minted Ph.D.'s in search of jobs), books and ideas.

... snip ...

"Inside Job" references how leading economists were captured similar to the capture of the regulatory agencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)

"Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards" goes into the capture of economists in more detail
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/

loc72-74:
"Only through having been caught so blatantly with their noses in the troughs (e.g. the 2011 Academy Award -- winning documentary Inside Job) has the American Economic Association finally been forced to adopt an ethical code, and that code is weak and incomplete compared with other disciplines."

... another quote loc957-62:
The AEA was pushed into action by a damning research report into the systematic concealment of conflicts of interest by top financial economists and by a letter from three hundred economists who urged the association to come up with a code of ethics. Epstein and Carrick-Hagenbarth (2010) have shown that many highly influential financial economists in the US hold roles in the private financial sector, from serving on boards to owning the respective companies. Many of these have written on financial regulation in the media or in scholarly papers. Very rarely have they disclosed their affiliations to the financial industry in their writing or in their testimony in front of Congress, thus concealing a potential conflict of interest.

... snip ..

recent reference:

Glenn Hubbard, Leading Academic and Mitt Romney Advisor, Took 1200 an Hour to Be Countrywide's Expert Witness (gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140504010711/http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/glenn-hubbard-leading-academic-and-mitt-romney-advisor-took-1200-an-hour-to-be-countrywides-expert-witness-20121220?print=true

past posts mentioning above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#21 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#51 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#52 How Many Divisions Does Standard and Poors Have?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#5 AIG's Bank Of America Suit Puts Trashy Paper On Display
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#51 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#2 Search Google, 1960:s-style

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AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 09 Jan 2013
Subject: AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/LY5xgqSeHAH

AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre9070gr-us-aig-lawsuit-government/

Stories at the time AIG was negotiating to settle for 50cents on the dollar with the CDS betters ... when the sec. of treasury (former head of GS) jumped in and said that was illegal, forced them to take bailout to settle at 100% on the dollar with the CDS betters (largest being GS); also sign document that they couldn't sue the CDS betters ... some more:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/Z8RxnZTwezz

i.e.

Secrets and Lies of the Bailout; The federal rescue of Wall Street didn't fix the economy -- it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst may be yet to come
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/secret-and-lies-of-the-bailout-20130104

a different slant: After Getting A Gigantic Bailout, AIG Is Considering Suing The Government
http://www.businessinsider.com/aig-reportedly-considering-suing-the-government-in-a-25-billion-lawsuit-2013-1
and like above:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/rescued-by-a-bailout-a-i-g-may-sue-its-savior/

A Heaping Helping of Chutzpah: AIG Considers Suing the U.S. Government For Bailing It Out
http://business.time.com/2013/01/09/a-heaping-helping-of-chutzpah-aig-considers-suing-the-u-s-government-for-bailing-it-out/

from above:
This is true. But those institutions were either banks that were already closely regulated by the Fed or became bank holding companies and submitted themselves to Federal Reserve regulation in return for access to the Fed's lending facilities.

... snip ...

Note the rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA (better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall, also responsible for much of the mess) was that if you weren't already a bank, you wouldn't be able to get a bank charter (targeted at limiting bank competition). One of those receiving a bank charter (which shouldn't have been allowed under GLBA) as part of Federal Reserve bailout was also the largest beneficiary's of AIG CDS payouts.

past posts mentioning AIG bailout
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#51 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#19 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#63 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#48 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#11 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#16 The Formula That Killed Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#18 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#22 Is it time to put banking executives on trial?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#64 Should AIG executives be allowed to keep the bonuses they were contractually obligated to be paid?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#74 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#17 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#31 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#40 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#43 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#47 TARP Disbursements Through April 10th
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#3 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#8 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#77 A new global system is coming into existence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#22 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#40 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#74 Administration calls for financial system overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#36 Average Comp This Year At Top Firm Estimated At $700,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#71 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#75 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#81 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#2 Big Bonuses At Goldman Should Be Applauded, Not Criticized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#89 Audits V: Why did this happen to us ;-(
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#62 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#44 Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#48 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#2 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#20 U.K. lags in information security management practices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#35 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#53 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#45 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#34 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#51 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#8 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#11 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#13 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#15 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#28 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#56 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#52 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#62 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#32 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#58 S.E.C. Moves to Tighten Rules on Bonds Backed by Consumer Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#47 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#29 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#63 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#7 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#22 Is BitCoin a triple entry system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#40 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#13 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#49 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#24 rating agencies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#5 AIG's Bank Of America Suit Puts Trashy Paper On Display
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#16 Feds Launch Probe Into S&P Mortgage Rates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#25 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#54 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#39 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#62 The true cost of 9/11: Trillions and trillions wasted on wars, a fiscal catastrophe, and a weaker America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#2 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#71 Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#52 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#79 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#82 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#62 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#76 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#77 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#72 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#93 World faces 1930-type Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#32 Wall Street Bonuses May Reach Lowest Level in 3 Years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#19 "Buffett Tax" and truth in numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#65 Why Wall Street Should Stop Whining
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#95 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#0 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#13 Study links ultrafast machine trading with risk of crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#32 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#37 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#39 Greek knife to Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#52 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#32 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#52 Goldman Exec Quits In A Scathing NYT Op-Ed About How The Firm Abuses Its Clients
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#69 Memory versus processor speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#30 Senators Who Voted Against Ending Big Oil Tax Breaks Received Millions From Big Oil
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#42 Who Increased the Debt?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#70 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#36 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#38 Four Signs Your Awesome Investment May Actually Be A Ponzi Scheme
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#39 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#32 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#50 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#51 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#56 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#59 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#71 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#18 U.S. Treasury, AIG are poised to sever ties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#45 Nate Silver is Not Just Wrong, but Maliciously Wrong
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#51 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#54 UBS Faces Potential LIBOR Fine Of $1 Billion -- Twice What Barclays Paid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#20 The Big Fail

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:48:52 -0500
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
The number of jobs that you could run in parallel on an IBM mainframe was generally limited by memory rather than by intrinsic limits; OS/360 would support 15 problem program regions concurrently, but few shops had enough memory to do so. Similarly, an MVS installation will run into resource limits long before it runs into architectural limits.

There were a couple of choke points in the progression from S/360 software to z software, and there were windows where virtual storage constrain relief (VSCR) was an issue, but IBM typically addressed them fairly early.


old post about part of justification for MVT to move to virtual memory (because typically only 25% of storage was used it partition meaning could get 16 partitions on 1mbyte machine ... back when memory was much more expensive).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory

I had referenced remembering seeing Ludlow on 360/67 3rd shift crafting copy of cp67 ccwtrans into MVT for early operation of os/vs2 svs i.e. SVS was little different than MVT running in 16mbyte virtual machine ... major change was SVS EXCP had to do its own ccw translation ... it also had to manage its own virtual memory tables and page i/o ... but that was much simpler than what was required to support channel program translation.

Ludlow reference here
http://donludlow.com/obituary.html

and references to Ludlow also author of SuperZap and SuperC
http://donludlow.com/guestbook.html

big issue has been extensive use of pointer-passing API ... major issue with OS/VS2 change from SVS to MVS giving 16mbyte virtual address space to every application ... but half of each virtual space was image of MVS kernel. Also with MVS ... operating system subsystems (called by applications but outside the kernel) were moved into their own virtual address space. In order for pointer-passing API to continue to work, parameter lists needed to appear in both the application calling address space and the sub-system address space. For this, MVS created the common segment (1mbyte area) that also appeared in every virtual address space ... used for passing parameters. However, it somewhat needed to be proportional to the number of concurrent applications as well as subsystems ... so it quickly morphed into common system area (CSA) growing to 4-5 mbytes and threatening to increase to 5-6 mbytes ... leaving applications with only 2mbytes out of their "dedicated" 16mbyte virtual address space.

another periodic issue even after addition of 31bit (and more recently 64bit) addressing is things that still required 24bit address and needed to be located in first 16mbytes of storage ... creating competition for that area.

a little x-over in linkedin Enterprise Systems discussion
http://lnkd.in/RsuUyw
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#26 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing

where somebody had claimed that zos had the most support for 64bit.

x86-64
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

details how x86-64 is compatible superset of earlier i86 and is radically different than IA-64 which was designed by Intel and HP. Trivia: primary person at HP responsible for IA-64 was previously at IBM (before going to HP in the early 80s) and was responsible for dual-address space mode for 3033 (among other things).

also from article:
Linux was the first operating system kernel to run the x86-64 architecture in long mode, starting with the 2.4 version in 2001 (prior to the physical hardware's availability).[46][47] Linux also provides backward compatibility for running 32-bit executables. This permits programs to be recompiled into long mode while retaining the use of 32-bit programs.

... snip ...

System z
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_z
z/Architecture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z/Architecture

above mentions restricting code execution to the first 2GB (31bits) for each virtual address space ... except 64bit version of Linux what allows code to execute from 64bit address ranges (possibly implying that Linux has been the most successful at adapting to 64bit ... regardless of the hardware platform).

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AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 11 Jan 2013
Subject: AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/LY5xgqSeHAH
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#21 AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government

rollingstone weighs in

Hank Greenberg Should Be Shot into Space For Suing the Government over the AIG Bailout
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/hank-greenberg-should-be-shot-into-space-for-suing-the-government-over-the-aig-bailout-20130109

above mentions Federal Reserve was selective in handing out its bank charters (which theoretically should have been precluded by GLBA).

The Delicious Irony of Morris Greenberg's AIG Suit Against the US Treasury
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/01/11/the-delicious-irony-of-morris-greenbergs-aig-suit-against-the-us-treasury/

from above:
This deception was put forth in a panic atmosphere to bamboozle Congress into letting Geithner (then head of the New York Federal Reserve) and Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson pay Goldman Sachs (Paulson's alma mater) and other Wall Street's heavy winners. But there was no truth to the claim that French law prevented banks from taking a loss, or that the U.S. Government had to apply the same giveaway offer to Wall Street.

and
The effect was to funnel "tens of billions of dollars of government money ... directly to the banks. We therefore labeled the deal what it was, a 'backdoor bailout of the banks.'" This inspired AIG's head, Maurice R. Greenberg, to sue the U.S. Government, claiming that it "used billions of dollars from A.I.G. to settle credit-default swaps the insurer had with banks like Goldman Sachs"

... snip ...

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:52:36 -0500
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
I think the 360, and OS/360, was a major disappointment for academics. I was a student when The University or Rochester replaced a 70xx system (7094 maybe?) with a 360/50 in 1966 or 67. I was an outsider, but my impression was they didn't get anywhere near the thruput they were expecting, and of course it took a while to get OS/360 stable.

univ. had 709/1401 ... the 1401 was front end for card reader to tape and tape to printer/punch ... tapes were manually carried between 1401 and 709 tape drives and 709 ran ibsys monitor tape-to-tape ... student jobs on 709 took approx sec elapsed time to compile & execute

1401 was replaced with 360/30 on path to replacing 709/1401 with 360/67 for tss/360. tss/360 never got to any sort of production level and when 360/67 came in, it ran os/360. os/360 fortgclg took well over a minute elapsed time for each student job (about 100 times slower than 709). hasp got the elapsed time down to around 30secs for student jobs.

this is part of share presentation at fall '68 SHARE meeting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

references tearing the stage2 sysgen apart and totally re-organizing it to optimize arm seek as well as rotational delay (ordering of files on disk and library members in PDS datasets). Part of the issue of ordering members in PDS datasets is not only arm seek distance but the rotational delay in multi-track search of the PDS directory (aka a full cylinder search of 20 track 2314 cylinder at 2000rpm takes 2/3rds second elapsed time for each i/o operation ... then a seek-arm-access to load the actual library member). You wanted the library member near the PDS directory (where the arm spent most of its time) to minimize arm seek distance ... but you also wanted its entry in the directory as close to the front of the directory as possible (to minimize the number of rotations to find the entry).

The job scheduling/job step overhead was especially egregious in requiring lots of PDS member load operations. A 3-step fortran-g compile, link-edit & execut/go "null" fortran program short negligible elapsed time difference from typical student fortran (aka 99.9999% of the time was operating system overhead). The careful ordering achieved nearly 3times speedup. The presentation also has numbers about significant rewrite I did of large parts of cp67 that also improved throughput of os/360 running in virtual machine.

recent posts about multi-track search
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#58 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#62 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#64 Random thoughts: Low power, High performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#66 ISO documentation of IBM 3375, 3380 and 3390 track format

It wasn't until WATFOR was installed that elapsed student job time would beat 709. WATFOR was single step monitor ... so the job-step overhead was 4-10+ seconds elapsed time (depending on vanilla or optimized system). Typically would "batch" a tray of student jobs in a single run ... tray could hold 3000 cards ... typical run was 2000-3000 cards with typical student job of 40-60 cards ... or 35-70 jobs.

WATFOR did minimal compile ... frequently quick translation into calls to internal WATFOR subroutines ... little better than interpreter ... so execution efficiency wasn't very high ... but student jobs tended to be negligible execution. I have vaque recollections that WATFOR was rated at compiling 20,000 statements per minute on 360/65 ... or 333 statements per second. A tray of 3000 cards would take 4seconds elapsed time for the job step overhead (more like 10-12seconds on "standard" system) and 9 seconds for student job compile and maybe another second or two for job executions ... say 15 seconds elapsed time for 70 jobs ... or .2secs/job (down from approx second on 709/ibsys and 30+sec on standard os/360 fortgclg w/HASP).

misc. past posts mentioning ckd, fba, and multi-track search for vtoc and pds directories
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

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Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:23:36 -0500
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
Yes, I realized after I posted that a lot of this is attributable to job setup overhead. When your jobs are lengthy payroll runs, long simulations, or graphics, you don't notice the overhead, but when you're running thousands and thousands of trivial student compiles, most of which take milliseconds to execute, the overhead completely swamps the "useful" time. Pretty much any system will perform badly with this kind of stuff.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#24 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

the multi-track search of PDS directory shows up all over the place that requires a lot of library member loading that has short execution.

I would periodically be brought into customer situations when all other avenues failed. This time it was a large national retailer that had multiple 370/168 loosely-coupled os/vs2 operation. They had large transaction environment with load from regional stores spread across several 168s. As load built up during the day ... throughput across all machines dropped to a crawl. They had brought in "experts" from all over the company that couldn't identify the source of the problem.

I was brought into classroom with several tables covered with foot-high printouts of system activity data. After 30 minutes or so ... I noticed that the aggregate I/O activity (summed across all system printouts) peaked around 6-7 i/os sec when datacenter was at peak throughput duress.

Turns out that the disk (3330) had the shared application PDS library for all systems. It had large number of transaction application for all the store operations ... including a 3cylinder PDS directory.

Each transaction required reloading transaction from the PDS library, each load required multi-track lookup on the PDS directory which required on the avg. a 1.5 cylinder search. That is one multi-track search I/O for the first cylinder involving 19revolutions ... plus a second multi-track search I/O for avg. 9.5 revolutions ... plus third I/O operation to move the arm and load the PDS member.

Normally 3330 would be expected to do 30-45 disk I/Os ... depending on things like arm motion queueing, and length of transfer (pure random access is 30ms, avg. arm motion plus avg. rotational delay).

However, two of the i/os involved total of 28.5 revolutions at 3600RPM ... or 475mills plus 30+mills for the third (member load) i/o ... 505mills or half-second elapsed time to load each library transaction application (with no overlap) ... which met that the peak transaction rate across all 168s for all stores in the country was two/second.

The net was that the transaction application was split into multiple PDS libraries on different disks ... per disk then became about 10 search+load per second per disk ... possibly aggregate of 20-30/second ... and replicating unique copy for each 370/168 system (so each system could do 20-30/second ... rather than peak of two across all systems)

misc. past posts mentioning ckd, fba, multi-track search, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

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Cultural attitudes towards failure

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 14 Jan 2013
Subject: Cultural attitudes towards failure
Blog: Boyd Disciples

http://lnkd.in/9q5Zvq
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#29 Cultural attitudes towards failure

recent Mahan references

"Mahan, Bean-Counting and Ideas"
http://thediplomat.com/the-naval-diplomat/2013/01/14/mahan-bean-counting-and-ideas/
"Chasing ghosts; The notion that geography is power is making an unwelcome comeback in Asia"
http://www.economist.com/node/13825154

this is contemporary of Mahan and member of congress ... has some things to say about both Teddy as well as US imperialism in the period "Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920"
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich

has description from viewpoint of congress to much of period covered by "War Is A Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
above also references
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war
also one of Spinney's themes The Domestic Roots of Perpetual War
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html

"Triumphant Plutocracy" also references Perpetual war ... I have couple quotes in this post over in Chet's blog:
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/2013/01/08/apres-moi-le-deluge/

but back to Teddy (from Triumphant Plutocracy) loc5390-94:
Roosevelt thereupon sent out navy and our marines to Colon, which is the port on the Gulf side of the Isthmus of Panama, and secretly notified the government of the State of Panama that, if they would set up a republic and revolt against the Republic of Colombia, he would give them the ten millions of dollars for the canal strip, and would also see that Colombia did not send any troops to suppress their rebellion. The Governor of Panama agreed to this arrangement, and, at the proper time, started a rebellion to set up an independent government

... snip ...

there are also quite a few other choice comments about Teddy.

from the Economist article:
A CENTURY ago the ideas of an American naval officer, Alfred Thayer Mahan -- pal of Teddy Roosevelt, inventor of the term "the Middle East", advocate of American expansionism in Asia and father of the modern American navy -- were much in vogue among military strategists and great-power leaders

... snip ...

other past posts mentioning Mahan &/or Perpetual War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#76 (old) list of (old) books
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#71 "Rat Your Boss" or "Rats to Riches," the New SEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#32 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#8 The True Cost of 9/11 -- Includes 18 Veteran Suicides a Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#17 Washington's Cult of Continuous Failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#34 Scotland, was Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#34 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#142 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#26 Strategy subsumes culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#25 We are on the brink of historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#70 Disruptive Thinkers: Defining the Problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#71 Disruptive Thinkers: Defining the Problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#78 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#104 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#21 The Age of Unsatisfying Wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#63 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#68 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#0 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#51 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'? thoughts please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#5 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#50 Arming for the Navy's Return to History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#58 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#97 What a Caveman Can Teach You About Strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#32 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#34 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#64 Guest Post: Beakley on Boyd, Aerial Combat and the OODA-Loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#29 Jedi Knights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#83 Protected: R.I.P. Containment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#1 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#71 Is orientation always because what has been observed? What are your 'direct' experiences?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

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Java Security?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Java Security?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 07:15:38 -0800
jwglists@GMAIL.COM (John Gilmore) writes:
Java was designed and initially implemented in a better, albeit naif time. The notion that systems must be designed and implemented defensively, that malicious attempts to corrupt or destroy them will be frequent, was not yet understood (and has not yet been fully assimilated).

some historic background ... java was mid-90s, we went to sun invitational, the head of the business unit I had worked with previously at ibm (he was one of two people responsible for IBM's pascal implementation, originally done for implementating internal vlsi tools) ... and then left and became vp of software at MIPs before becoming general manager of sun business unit that included java. we had discussions about what was needed for the java virtual machine to provide system integrity and security comparible to ibm's virtual machine product.

we had been asked to look at running a effort to commercialize and release SUNs object-oriented "SPRING/DOE" operating system (this was back in the day when object-oriented programming, applications and operating systems were all the rage ... apple was doing one, sun did one, others were doing stuff) ... SUN was in the process of shutting down SPRING/DOE and transferring everybody over to JAVA. old email touching on the subject
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#email960203

we've had past discussions about how much did the SPRING/DOE client implementation influence GREEN (which morphs into JAVA)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#51 A Speculative question

above includes URL/references to GREEN as well as description of the SPRING/DOE client-side interpreter (taken from the SPRING/DOE documents).

previously we had been brought in to consult at small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had invented this technology called SSL they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Part of the effort, we had done detailed, end-to-end, threat & vulnerability analysis for mapping SSL technology to payment transactions and came up with some number of deployment and use requirements. Some number of these requirements were almost immediately violated ... contributing to many of the exploits that have continued to this day.

at the time (and since then), all the various browser client-side implementations (IE's visual basic, java, javascript, etc) were under significant pressures to take short-cuts to provide support for the latest & greatest client-side feature.

for the payment transaction stuff ... I had sign-off authority on everything to do with the payment gateway and webserver interfaces to the payment gateway ... but could only recommend regarding the browser/client ... and their interfaces to webserver ... as well as webserver operation (other than the protocol to the payment gateway).

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Java Security?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Java Security?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 09:14:12 -0800
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security?

for a long time the majority of exploits used buffer length related vulnerabilities that have been epidemic in C-language implemented applications & systems.

Note that the previously mentioned mainframe Pascal was eventually released as product and was used to implement IBM's original mainframe tcp/ip product. There were some performance issues with the base product ... however there was *never* any buffer length related vulnerabilties. As to the performance issues, I did the changes to support RFC1044 and in some tests at cray research between cray and 4341 got channel speed sustained throughput using only modest amount of 4341 processor time (aka possibly a factor of 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed over the base product). misc. past posts mentioning rfc1044
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

I then had to do both detailed failure mode and detailed vulnerability analaysis when we were doing IBM's ha/cmp product ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

C-language related buffer length problems continued to be the major source of exploits up through the late 90s. By 2004 that had shifted to approx. 1/3rd buffer length, 1/3rd client-side downloaded executable code, and 1/3rd social engineering. I did some work on the mitre exploit database trying to further work on my merged security taxonomy & glossory ... post attempting to characterize all exploits:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#43 security taxonomy and CVE

part of the issue was (at the time) exploit reports were free text ... I talked to mitre about possibly introducing a little more structure and categories ... but they said that it was hard enough to get the reports as free text w/o trying to enforce structure.

lots of past posts pontificating about the buffer length vulnerability issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

trivia ... relationship between ha/cmp, supercomputers and electronic commerce ... old reference to early jan92 meeting in ellison's conference room on ha/cmp cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

at the end of jan, the scale-up work was transferred and a couple weeks later announced as supercomputer (and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors). this contributed to our decision to leave. not long later, two of the other people in the ellison meeting also leave and show up at a small client/server start responsible for something called the "commerce server". as mentioned in previous post, we are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on their server.

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Java Security?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Java Security?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 10:55:45 -0800
martin_packer@UK.IBM.COM (Martin Packer) writes:
If I remember rightly Pascal does bounds checking. Pascal was one of the languages I did at college - and the highest-level one. A bit of a shock to me to discover - in an IBM Systems Engineer training homework assignment - that COBOL didn't. (This was in 1986.) The result was me stomping over the code by assigning values to array elements using only slightly excessive subscript values. :-) I think I learnt something from that. :-)

I mention this because the bounds checking in Pascal is probably what prevented buffer overrun issues (and nowadays with C etc actual exploits).


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#28 Java Security

student versions of fortran, pascal, pli, etc tended to do a lot more checking that production versions.

pascal & pli have much better (length related) storage, buffer, & array paradigm than c-language. part of the issue is that c-language has convetion of implicit lengths with null terminator ... while other languages have had convention of explicit lengths. the null terminator & implicit length paradigm contributes significantly to a huge increase in programming errors (there have been long drawn out discussions about expert programmers are subject to such errors ... but the analogy has been used with auto & highway safety engineering ... countermeasures for the most common types of failings).

note there was ibm review of the air force security audit of multics (some number of the mit 7094/ctss people went to 5th flr to do multics and other went to the ibm science center on 4th flr and did virtual machines, internal network and bunch of other things). One of the ibm references was that multics (implemented in pli) also didn't have any buffer length related exploits. old reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#42 Thirty Years Later: Lessons from the Multics Security Evaluation

the paper was originally at: domino.watson.ibm.com/library/cyberdig.nsf/papers/FDEFBEBC9DD3E35485256C2C004B0F0D/$File/RC22534.pdf but now found at
http://www.acsac.org/2002/papers/classic-multics.pdf

note I had done a mainframe "dump reader" ... for some reason it was never shipped ... but at one time it was in used at majority of the internal datacenters and a huge percentage of all (customer support) PSRs. Part of the effort I did study of most common mainframe failures and then did library of code for the dump reader that automatically checked for large percentage of identifiable failure signatures. One of the most common system failures were dangling pointers ... i.e. asynchronous activity where a pointer was being used after the storage area had been released for other pointers.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx

One of the benefits claimed for JAVA ... was automagically handling the dangling pointer failure mode.

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Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 10:57:57 -0800
beattiem@UK.IBM.COM (Malcolm Beattie) writes:
z/VSE has supported FCP SCSI for a good while now (since 3.1).

a lot easier for any mainframe system that originally provided FBA support ... instead of being stuck with CKD ... misc past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

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Java Security?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Java Security?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 11:02:17 -0800
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
student versions of fortran, pascal, pli, etc tended to do a lot more checking that production versions.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#28 Java Security
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#29 Java Security

IBM's CPS (conversational programming system) that supported both interactive basic and pli ... system offering included special microcode assist for the 360/50 ... did a lot of checking

Waterloo's WATFOR (student fortran for ibm mainframes) did an enormous amount of checking.

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Java Security?

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Java Security?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jan 2013 15:16:34 -0800
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
lots of past posts pontificating about the buffer length vulnerability issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#28 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#29 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#31 Java Security?

there is a similar thread running in usenet newsgroup comp.arch ... google group comp.arch archive:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.arch/pVll8uhRKY4

including comments about java isn't totally free from buffer length vulnerabilities ... because of lots of jvm implementations being done in C-language (post by andy glew yesterday)

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caches in virtual

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: caches in virtual
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:30:24 -0500
jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) writes:
Please don't.

I worked with RS/6000 machines for a bit.

When dealing with shared memory, mapped files, shared libraries, you realize that:

They did not implement virtual memory the way everyone thinks of it. The hardware has a mapping from physical to virtual addresses.

What's worse, this machine had only 16 s------ registers per process.

Seems like a lot, but when you have the system libraries, your libraries, then the application has its stuff too, it is not fun.


801/risc from the 70s was designed to have hardware/software trade-offs with proprietary operating system and no hardware protection. only valid programs would be generated and only valid programs would be loaded for execution. in-line application code would as easily change segment registers as it could change general purpose registers for use as address pointers.

801/risc romp was going to be displaywriter follow-on running cp.r operating system with pl.8 programming language ... when that got canceled ... they looked around for something else to use it for and hit on unix workstation market ... but that involved a totally different system paradigm ... including needing to add hardware protection. they got the company that had done at&t unix for "pc/ix" (for the ibm/pc) ... to do a port for romp ... to become aixv2 and pc/rt.

rios chip set, rs/6000 and aixv3 was follow-on to romp & pc/rt.

long ago and far away i was sucked into working out packing multiple shared libraries into single shared segment ... old email:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#email841116
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email841127
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#email850301

other old 801/risc email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801

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How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 16 Jan 2013
Subject: How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/opinion/how-bankers-help-drug-traffickers-and-terrorists.html?_r=1

Past articles are that TBTF are facilitating enormous amounts of money for the drug cartels ... contributing to large increase in their acquiring military supplies to provide for their growing private armies as well as large increase in violence ... references to turning Mexico into Colombia. Lots of stories about the illegal activity has been identified (just with the laws currently in place) ... but instead of throwing people in jail and shutting down the institutions they are being given slap on the wrist ... leading to the references about too-big-to-jail (in addition to too-big-to-fail).

recent news reference: "Mexico's drug war undiminished in some areas close to Texas, authorities say"
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/nationworld/mexico/20130112-mexico-s-drug-war-undiminished-in-some-areas-close-to-texas-authorities-say.ece

from above:
The leader of the Zetas paramilitary group, Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, was killed in Progreso, in Coahuila state, in October.

CIUDAD JUÃREZ, Mexico -- A new surge of killing, kidnapping and extortion is the latest sign that the violent crime wave in Mexico has not subsided since President Enrique Pea Nieto took office Dec. 1 and could grow further in the weeks to come, U.S. law enforcement officials say.


... snip ...

that isn't a lot different from the economic mess ... when there was lots of articles about blame for risk managers not doing their job and the mathematical models not being correct. However, there were some number of articles that the business people forced the risk managers to fiddle the inputs to the models until the business people got the desired results (as well as calls for risk managers to be placed at corporate level where they would be able to resist the pressures of the business people).

The other was that there was $27T in CDOs done during the bubble and rating agencies were taking money for triple-A rating on CDOs (even when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) ... totally subverting any possible risk modeling. None of that seems to have created any reputational risk. End of 2008, the four largest too-big-to-fail were carrying $5.2T of triple-A rated toxic CDOs "off book".
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

past posts referencing too-big-to-jail:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#24 Little-Noted, Prepaid Rules Would Cover Non-Banks As Wells As Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#58 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#16 Wonder if they know how Boydian they are?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#35 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#37 The $30 billion Social Security hack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#25 This Is The Wall Street Scandal Of All Scandals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#37 If all of the American earned dollars hidden in off shore accounts were uncovered and taxed do you think we would be able to close the deficit gap?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#30 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#0 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#55 U.S. Sues Wells Fargo, Accusing It of Lying About Mortgages
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#10 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#20 HSBC, SCB Agree to AML Penalties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#24 OCC Confirms that Big Banks are Badly Managed, Lack Adequate Risk Management Controls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#39 UBS Faces Potential LIBOR Fine Of $1 Billion -- Twice What Barclays Paid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#48 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place

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Does the UK Government Really Want us to Report Fraud?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 16 Jan 2013
Subject: Does the UK Government Really Want us to Report Fraud?
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Reporting fraud and the new culture of complaining
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pp88z
The Fraud Advisory Panel - sounding the alert on fraud

old item about reporting fraud to banks ... but not to the police or gov. authorities
http://www.moneyexpert.com/news/article/18106248

numerous related articles were about little or nothing seemed to being done about the problems

institutions behind not reporting fraud to legal authorities were also involved in libor fraud, money laundering faud, mortgage fraud, tax evasion fraud and some number of other illegal activities.

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JPMorgan Chase slammed by regulators for control failings after botched derivatives bet

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 16 Jan 2013
Subject: JPMorgan Chase slammed by regulators for control failings after botched derivatives bet
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
JPMorgan Chase slammed by regulators for control failings after botched derivatives bet
http://www.finextra.com/News/FullStory.aspx?newsitemid=24435

Once Again, Jamie Dimon Gets Special Treatment
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/marcy-wheeler-once-again-jamie-dimon-gets-special-treatment.html

from above:
That last one is the real peach. You see, in spite of the fact the order includes 22 pages of things JPMC "shall" do to fix this problem, the order did not include any fine. Remember, it has been less than 18 months since JPMC got caught -- among other things -- sending a ton of gold bullion to Iran in violation of sanctions. That time, at least, Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Controls fined JPMC, if only $88.3 million.

... snip ...

OCC Issues Cease and Desist Order Against JPMorgan Chase, N.A., Related to Bank Secrecy Act/Anti-Money Laundering
http://compliancex.com/occ-issues-cease-desist-order-against-jpmorgan-chase-n-a-related-bank-secrecy-actanti-money-laundering/

past posts mentioning Dimon:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#21 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#24 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#61 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#82 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#87 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#79 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#17 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#25 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#29 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#50 The Games Played By JP Morgan Chase
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#63 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#59 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#14 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#32 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Obscurity or is it Security by Design?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#60 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More

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Kaspersky identifies 'Red October' cyberespionage network

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 16 Jan 2013
Subject: Kaspersky identifies 'Red October' cyberespionage network
Blog: Information Security
Kaspersky identifies 'Red October' cyberespionage network
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/011913-google-looks-to-kill-passwords-265977.html

'Red October' cyber-espionage campaign revealed
http://www.tgdaily.com/security-brief/68757-red-october-cyber-espionage-campaign-revealed

Red October relied on Java exploit to infect PCs; Unearthed attack site reveals some inner workings of espionage malware
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/massive-espionage-malware-relied-on-java-exploit-to-infect-pcs/

Digital fingerprints on Red October spyware point to Russia ... or do they?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0115/Digital-fingerprints-on-Red-October-spyware-point-to-Russia-or-do-they

semi-related a couple of long-winded discussions on java vulnerability (& java "security" in general) in usenet comp.arch newsgroup .... archived here in google groups:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.arch/pVll8uhRKY4

similar discussion in the mainframe ibm-main mailing list ... also archived in google groups:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/3vtD8YG6MMo

my posts in the recent java threads:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#27 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#28 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#29 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#31 Java Security?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#32 Java Security?

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DEC/PDP minicomputers for business in 1968?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEC/PDP minicomputers for business in 1968?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:58:14 -0500
Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
On one measure of FP performance current at the time, namely the Whetstone benchmark, the VAX 11/780 with FPA was twice the speed of the FP-equipped PDP 11/70, and the 11/70 was about equal to a 360/65, i.e, about 33 times he speed of a 360/30 (not /20). The figures are here:


http://freespace.virgin.net/roy.longbottom/whetstone.htm#anchorIndex

This five years old Mac laptop is about 4000 times faster than the 360/65, 400 times the 360/195 supercomputer, or 20 times a Cray 1S.


post from 2011 in (linkedin) Old Geeks about whetstone mention 4341 & 780 very similar whetstone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#126 Deja Cloud?

also mentions i7 860 at 3.46ghz has 2790mwips rating ... nearly thousand times that of 168-3 (but i7 may be based on aggregate of four cores which would be 698mwips/core)

national lab was looking at possible large compute farm of 4341s ... and I had done (rain/rain4) benchmarks on engineering 4341 in late 70s. old emails with benchmark results
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790212b
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790226
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#21 moving on

and in followup post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#23 moving on
some more
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790122
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790123
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790123b

then old email (decade later) on drystones, whetstones, & linpack for various workstations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#email890709

bunch of benchmarks (including whetstone) for e5-2690, e5-2660, x5690, i7-3690x, & amd6274
http://www.istorya.net/forums/computer-hardware-21/485176-intel-xeon-e5-2690-and-e5-2660-8-core-sandy-bridge-ep-review.html

recent posts mentioning above benchmarks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#50 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#64 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#59 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#81 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#45 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#6 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing

old email mentioning 4300 machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx

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ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: ICSF Symmetric Key being sent to a non-zOS system
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 18 Jan 2013 10:08:33 -0800
SFinch@RECOVERYPOINT.COM (Steve Finch) writes:
Look at the Digital Certificate exchange process. It is the basis of SSL (HTTPS, SSH, Secure FTP).

It should be supported on most platforms. It uses assymetric cryptography to encrypt the crypt the symmetric key. And the RSA encryption does use a bunch of CPU for a brief moment to encrypt the symmetric key.


PKI & Digital Certificate has some smoke and mirrors associated with it.

Relying party needs secure repository of trusted public keys that is distributed by some trusted out-of-band process.

Then the relying party can use public key from their secure respository to validate some digitally signed information.

SSL, HTTPS, PKI, etc uses a level indirection. A repository of (certification authority) "trusted" public keys are embedded in browser distribution.

Individuals can present public key to certification authority which does some validation process and generates a digitally signed (using a certification authority private key) digital certificate that attests to some equivalence between something that the individual claimed (like a name, or url, etc) and the presented public key.

Subsequently an individual can transmit some digitally signed information (with their corresponding private key), with their appended digital certificate.

The recipient (relying party) validates the CA's issued digital certificate by using the CA's public key from the previously distributed trusted repository (part of the browser distribution). Once the digital certificate has been validated, the recipient can extract the sender's public key from the digital certificate and validate the sender's digital signature on the transmitted message (to validate that the message really originated from the entity that the sender claims to be).

In SSL, the recipient/client can also generate a session symmetric secret key, encrypt it with the server/sender's public key (from the validated digital certificate) and return it to the sender. Only the originally sender with the corresponding private key can decrypt the client's generated session symmetric secret key. Subsequent SSL communication then takes place with the client's session symmetric secret key

In any case, for limited environment ... it is possible to exchange your own public keys out-of-band and keep them in your own trusted repository for future session key exchange w/o requiring 3rd party digital certificates (and having out-of-band distribution of the public keys from digital certificate issuing Certification Authorities kept in your trusted public key repository).

lots of disclaimers:

long ago and far away we were brought in to small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their servers, the small startup had also invented this technology called SSL they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Along the way we had to map the technology to payment business operations as well as establish some requirements for operation and use of SSL (some of which were almost immediately violated ... resulting in many of the exploits that continue until this day). some related posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

we had been brough in to help word-smith the cal. electronic signature act .... which was under heavy pressure from the certification authority industry to mandate that electronic signatures could only be done with digital signatures and digital certificates. some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature

Some past RSA show, the IBM executive that crypto reported to, was showing some Certification Authority (now defunct) CEO around the show ... and insisted on introducing the CEO to me. The CEO asked me what I did. I said that I was working on eliminating Certification Authorities from the face of the earth.

I've frequently pointed out that the SSL Certification Authority industry is dependent on the domain name system integrity and that their proposal to improve the integrity of the domain name system can also result in no longer needing SSL (&/or their digital certificates)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22

we have dozens of (assigned) patents in the area of public key use w/o using Certification Authorities and/or digital certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadssummary.htm

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Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 18 Jan 2013 16:14:44 -0800
alan_altmark@US.IBM.COM (Alan Altmark) writes:
I'm not sure what you're saying. MVS, VM, and VSE code bases *all* precede the invention of channel-attached FBA. They weren't engineered for use by MVS (e.g. originally no RESERVE/RELEASE), but it didn't matter since MVS wasn't engineered to accept device geometries that weren't based on (CYL, TRK, REC) addressing and allocation units.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#30 Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

CP/CMS used ckd search paradigm as if it was fixed-block ... so when real FBA came along, it was trivial to remap to fixed-block. Note that a lot of CP/CMS had heavy influence from MIT CTSS/7094 ... which predated 360 CKD. ctss reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

aka some number of the CTSS people went to the 5th flr to do Multics and others went to the IBM science center on the 4th flr and did virtual machines, internal network, bunch of other stuff. misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

OS/360 made heavy use of CKD multi-track search especially for vtoc and pds directories. I've frequently pontificated it was mid-60s trade-off between real-storage to maintain the information and channel/controller/device resource to perform the search outboard .... and the trade-off had inverted by the mid-70s; I would even get called into OS/VS2 multi-system accounts that were experiencing serious throughput problems because of the heavy use of multi-track search ... recent post about getting called into large national retailer ... after all the usual POK experts had been tried
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#25

I've also periodically mentioned that I was told that even if I provided MVS with integrated and fully-tested FBA support ... that I still needed to show a $26M business case to cover education, documentation, training ... basically several hundred million dollars in incremental FBA disk sales ... and specifically could not use total lifecycle savings ... and by-the-way ... customers were buying disks as fast as they could be produced ... so any FBA support would result in just changing from CKD sales to FBA sales ... not incremental new sales.

This is despite the fact that all DASD was heading in the direction of FBA ... furthermore real CKD hasn't been manufactured in decades ... and just getting initial ECKD hardware working (to pickup a little of FBA benefit) cost on par with what they quoted me for MVS FBA support. misc. past posts mentioning CKD, FBA, multi-track search, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

Of course, I've had somewhat similar encounter in the early 90s over fiber-channel support ... I had been asked in the 80s to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff that they had .... that eventually morphs into FCS in the early 90s. Then some POK channel engineers get involved and layered some heavy-weight stuff on-top of FCS that eventually becomes FICON ... and enormously reduces throughput ... compared to the native/underlying FCS throughput. recent post discussing fcs, ficon, & z196 max i/o benchmark
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

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More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 19 Jan 2013
Subject: More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/more-whistleblower-leaks-on-foreclosure-settlement-show-both-suppression-of-evidence-and-gross-incompetence.html

from above:
No wonder the Fed and the OCC snubbed a request by Darryl Issa and Elijah Cummings to review the foreclosure fraud settlement before it was finalized early last week. What had leaked out while the Potemkin borrower reviews were underway showed them to be a sham, as we detailed at length in an earlier post. But even so, what actually took place was even worse than hardened cynics had imagined.

... snip ...

refs: Cummings criticizes mortgage servicer settlement
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/real-estate/wonk/bs-re-cummings-criticizes-mortgage-servicer-settlement-20130109,0,7969992.story
Pending Foreclosure Fraud Settlement Achieves New Level of Abject Regulatory Failure
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/pending-foreclosure-fraud-settlement-achieves-new-level-of-abject-regulatory-failure.html
Foreclosure Review Insiders Portray Massive Failure, Doomed From The Start
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/foreclosure-review-failure-start_n_2468988.html

more recent:

New Ruling on Mortgage Putbacks a Potential Huge Win for Banks
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/new-ruling-on-mortgage-putbacks-a-potential-huge-win-for-banks.html

from above:
Investors in mortgage-backed securities were not quite as dumb as the crisis aftermath had made them look. The sponsors of the securitizations made promises in the offering documents (called representations and warranties) about the quality of the loans. It turns out they lied.

... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning mortgage settlement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#18 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#30 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#87 Wall St likes your amnesia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#94 Bankruptcy a reprieve for some companies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#10 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#13 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#48 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#68 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#68 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#11 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#12 Why Auditors Fail To Detect Frauds?

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Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 19 Jan 2013
Subject: Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC
http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/coffeehitsanerveatsec01152013/

more recent

Has Departing SEC Enforcement Chief Robert Khuzami Become Damaged Goods?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/schadenfreude-alert-has-departing-sec-enforcement-chief-robert-khuzami-become-damaged-goods.html

misc. past posts mentioning Madoff hearings (and person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to try and get SEC to do something about Madoff)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#65 What can agencies such as the SEC do to insure us that something like Madoff's Ponzi scheme will never happen again?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#0 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#20 Decision Making or Instinctive Steering?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#51 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#37 NEW SEC (Enforcement) MANUAL, A welcome addition
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#47 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#75 Whistleblowing and reporting fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#15 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#45 Artificial Intelligence to tackle rogue traders
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#67 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#29 Transparency and Visibility
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#23 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#30 An Amazing Document On Madoff Said To Have Been Sent To SEC In 2005
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#71 "Rat Your Boss" or "Rats to Riches," the New SEC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#47 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#41 Profiling of fraudsters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#43 COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#69 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#37 WHAT, WHY AND HOW - FRAUD, IMPACT OF AUDIT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#71 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#76 E-commerce smackdown as PCI standards revised
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#53 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#46 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#21 New-home sales in 2010 fall to lowest in 47 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#56 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#82 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#88 Court OKs Firing of Boeing Computer-Security Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#67 U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#11 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#38 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#37 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#60 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#1 As Pressure Grows to Cut Spending, the True Cost of Weapons Is Anyone's Guess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#33 Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#1 Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#12 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#16 John Robb on the OODA-Loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#29 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#110 Loan Originators
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#137 The High Cost of Failing Artificial Hips
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#5 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#18 SEC v. Citigroup, How to Avoid (Greater) Disaster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#26 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#70 Regulatory Agency logo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#44 What's the most interesting thing you do in your non-work life?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#54 The New Age Bounty Hunger -- Showdown at the SEC Corral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#0 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#4 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#13 Study links ultrafast machine trading with risk of crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#25 Goldman Sachs P.R. Chief's Accidental Exit Interview
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#36 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#12 Gordon Gekko Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#23 Are mothers naturally better at OODA because they always have the Win in mind?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#25 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#74 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#86 The Dangers of High-Frequency Trading; Wall Street's Speed Freaks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#6 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#78 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#85 Study: One in Five Firms Misrepresent Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#13 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#22 Four Signs Your Awesome Investment May Actually Be A Ponzi Scheme
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#0 Quelle Surprise! SEC Plans to Make the World Safer for Fraudsters, Push Through JOBS Act Con-Artist-Friendly Solicitation Rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#14 The growing openness of an organization's infrastructure has greatly impacted security landscape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#19 Why Auditors Fail To Detect Frauds?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#77 U.S. banks on high alert against cyberattacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#63 Is it possible to hack mainframe system??

possibly even GAO didn't think SEC was doing anything, other past posts mentioning GAO reports about fraudulent public company financial filings, even showing uptic after Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#25 IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#48 The blame game is on : A blow to the Audit/Accounting Industry or a lesson learned ???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#52 What has the Global Financial Crisis taught the Nations, it's Governments and Decision Makers, and how should they apply that knowledge to manage risks differently in the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#16 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#84 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#46 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#68 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#31 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#0 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#9 The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#23 Security 2012: Blood in the Water
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#24 Case Study: SOX IT Compliance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#92 Bank Failures Cost $88 Billion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#147 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#1 The war on terabytes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#19 "Buffett Tax" and truth in numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#53 Can America Lead the World's Fight Against Corruption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#87 The Benefit and The Burden
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#10 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#39 Fannie and Freddie must go - here's how
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#30 Senators Who Voted Against Ending Big Oil Tax Breaks Received Millions From Big Oil
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#84 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#67 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#42 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#89 Auditors Don't Know Squat!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#14 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#24 OCC Confirms that Big Banks are Badly Managed, Lack Adequate Risk Management Controls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#48 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place

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virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:14:49 -0500
Lawrence Greenwald <lawrence.greenwald@sbcglobal.net> writes:
Ah, now that's a computer center I can relate to. Where men wear ties and programmers don't touch the hardware.

I wonder if there were any RJE stations on those systems. And if any were self-service.


one of the things in the wake of Gray's MIPENVY and TANDEM MEMOS was task force that did visits to other institutions and documented observations (as part of comparisons with internal operations). Old posts mentioning the visits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#61 MVS History (all parts)
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#56 AT&T Labs vs. Google Labs - R&D History

above mentions Bell Labs having "network connections to at least 4 IBM 168s in Holmdel"

MIP ENVY from ibm jargon:

MIP envy - n. The term, coined by Jim Gray in 1980, that began the Tandem Memos (q.v.). MIP envy is the coveting of other's facilities - not just the CPU power available to them, but also the languages, editors, debuggers, mail systems and networks. MIP envy is a term every programmer will understand, being another expression of the proverb The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

... snip ...

a copy of MIP ENVY here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email800920

Tandem Memos from ibm jargon:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticized the way products were [are] developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s and early 80s ... misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

folklore is that when the executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 20 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: LinkedIn
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/business/a-fed-voice-asking-to-cut-megabanks-down-to-size.html

There have been several threads in financial crime, risk & fraud that the too-big-to-fail ... have also used their size for too-big-to-jail ... all sorts of illegal activities ... for which they periodically get slapped on the hand ... but no serious penalty (fines are small proportion of the amounts involved) and nobody going to jail

A decade ago, there was a periodic industry publication that gave the avg of thousands of measures for the largest national banks compared to the avg of the major regional banks. even at that time, the regional banks were slightly more profitable than the national banks (implying that going past regional size starts to exceed limits where there is efficiency of scale ... and becomes bloated and non-optim). There have also been references that congressional "bribes" have the largest corporate ROI ... couple hundred million resulting in GLBA and repeal of Glass-Steagall ... and billions more since.

Actually the rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA was if you already had a bank charter you got to keep it, but if you didn't already have a charter you couldn't get one (aka primary purpose of GLBA was to limit bank competition, not repeal of Glass-Steagall). The major bail-outs were done by Federal Reserve behind the scenes (i.e. end of 2008 just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T in toxic assets off-balance; amount appropriated for TARP wouldn't have made a dent in the problem) ... including handing out new bank charters which theoretically should have been in violation of GLBA.

from last spring:

The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
http://www.businessinsider.com/dallas-fed-calls-for-breakup-of-big-banks-2012-3
Banking Regulator Calls for End of 'Too Big to Fail'
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/03/28/banking-regulator-calls-for-end-of-too-big-to-fail/

past posts mentioning too-big-to-jail:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#24 Little-Noted, Prepaid Rules Would Cover Non-Banks As Wells As Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#58 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#16 Wonder if they know how Boydian they are?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#35 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#37 The $30 billion Social Security hack
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#25 This Is The Wall Street Scandal Of All Scandals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#37 If all of the American earned dollars hidden in off shore accounts were uncovered and taxed do you think we would be able to close the deficit gap?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#30 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#0 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#55 U.S. Sues Wells Fargo, Accusing It of Lying About Mortgages
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#10 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#20 HSBC, SCB Agree to AML Penalties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#24 OCC Confirms that Big Banks are Badly Managed, Lack Adequate Risk Management Controls
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#30 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#39 UBS Faces Potential LIBOR Fine Of $1 Billion -- Twice What Barclays Paid
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#48 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#34 How Bankers Help Drug Traffickers and Terrorists

other recent posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#0 Revolution Through Banking?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#25 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#70 Regulatory Agency logo
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#16 Interview of Mr. John Reed regarding banking fixing the game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#65 Why Wall Street Should Stop Whining
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#95 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#0 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#13 Study links ultrafast machine trading with risk of crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#32 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#37 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#39 Greek knife to Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#44 New Citigroup Looks Too Much Like the Old One
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#52 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#32 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#68 Memory versus processor speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#69 Memory versus processor speed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#1 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#30 Senators Who Voted Against Ending Big Oil Tax Breaks Received Millions From Big Oil
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#41 Why Are the Fed and SEC Keeping Wall Street's Secrets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#31 Rome speaks to us. Their example can inspire us to avoid their fate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#71 When Mobile Telecommunications Routes Become Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#75 Fed Report: Mortgage Mess NOT an Inside Job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#12 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#28 REPEAL OF GLASS-STEAGALL DID NOT CAUSE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS - WHAT DO YOU THINK?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#56 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#61 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#64 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#71 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#82 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#84 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#87 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#25 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#36 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#55 The Invention of Email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#82 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#25 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#29 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#30 US Senate proposes national data breach notification act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#35 US Senate proposes national data breach notification act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#63 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#76 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#86 Should the IBM approach be given a chance to fix the health care system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#28 Why Asian companies struggle to manage global workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#47 Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#56 Failing Gracefully
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#9 Sandy Weill's About-Face on Big Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#12 The Secret Consensus Among Economists
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#13 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#53 CALCULATORS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#60 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#62 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#63 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#12 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#51 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#56 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#58 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#59 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#63 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#71 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#3 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#12 Why Auditors Fail To Detect Frauds?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#57 Bull by the Horns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#7 Beyond the 10,000 Hour Rule
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#14 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#26 Why bankers rule the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#69 Can Open Source Ratings Break the Ratings Agency Oligopoly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#18 U.S. Treasury, AIG are poised to sever ties
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#45 Nate Silver is Not Just Wrong, but Maliciously Wrong
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#51 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#21 AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#42 Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC

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New HD

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New HD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:25 -0500
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
This seemingly paradoxical behaviour comes clear when you realize that Microsoft's goal is not to write quality software. It is to make money. History tells us that these two goals are not necessarily in alignment; there's more money to be made writing cheap shit.

at the 1996 MSDC conference at Moscone there were claims of inflection point ... previously people would buy new versions because there was new features people wanted/needed ... about 1996 95% of the people had 95% of the feature/function they wanted/used ... so marketing shifted more towards new car every year model.

the banners at the conference all proclaimed support for internet ... but the constant subtheme was protect your investment.

previously there was lots of various kinds of basic scripting, including automatic execution of scripts embedded in application files. the environment had been closed, safe, small business lans ... but that networking paradigm was then opened to the wild anarchy of the internet ... w/o the countermeasures for the multitude of looming exploits.

misc. past posts mentioning 1996 msdc:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#49 Virus propagation risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#45 Computer programming was all about:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#22 Why did TCP become popular ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#34 Next generation processor architecture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#51 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#50 DOS C prompt in "Vista"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#18 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#87 CompUSA to Close after Jan. 1st 2008
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#26 realtors (and GM, too!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#43 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#63 who pioneered the WEB
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#66 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#37 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#36 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#9 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#50 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#58 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#15 Identifying Latest zOS Fixes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#57 Are Tablets a Passing Fad?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#18 John R. Opel, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#141 With cloud computing back to old problems as DDos attacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#81 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#93 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#2 What are the implication of the ongoing cyber attacks on critical infrastructure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#18 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#32 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#37 Simulated PDP-11 Blinkenlight front panel for SimH
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#93 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#97 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?

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The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 20 Jan 2013
Subject: The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future
Blog: Facebook
The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-china-threat-micc-pivots-obama-back.html

What I told the Chinese
http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/01/18/what_i_told_the_chinese
The United States, by contrast, wants to stay in Asia in order to keep China from establishing a dominant position there. Since the U.S. became a great power, a core principle of its grand strategy was to prevent any single power from dominating either Europe or Asia. That's why the United States opposed Germany in World War I, fought Germany and Japan in World War II, and worked to contain the Soviet Union in the Cold War.

... snip ...

Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920; loc6141-48
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
We went into the war because the great financial and industrial interests centered in New York, who are the real government of the United States, conceived it to be for their gain or profit to put the United States into the European conflict. They had sold billions of dollars' worth of material to England, Russia, France and Italy, at enormous prices, reaping a marvelous profit. But as the war progressed and the demands on the part of those nations for credit increased, the financiers and controllers of American industry who were furnishing war material, became alarmed, and feared they would not be able to collect their claims against these European nations who were approaching bankruptcy, and they therefore determined to put the United States into that controversy, and have the United States loan money to the European nations, to pay off the obligations which they held against them.

and loc3906-13
An examination of these minutes discloses the fact that a commission of seven men chosen by the President seems to have devised the entire system of purchasing war supplies, planned a press censorship, designed a system of food control, and selected Herbert Hoover as its director, determined on a daylight saving scheme and, in a word, designed practically every war measure which Congress subsequently enacted—and did all this, behind closed doors, weeks and even months before the Congress of the United States declared war against Germany. For months before the United States declared war, Wilson was planning war with a secret committee of New York representatives of Big Business that he, Wilson, had appointed for that purpose.

... snip ...

misc. recent posts mentioning Spinney &/or "Triumphant plutocracy":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#13 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#15 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#75 The Winds of Reform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#14 Strategy subsumes culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#36 McCain calls for U.S.-led airstrikes in Syria
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#25 We are on the brink of historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#68 Glory Days of Army Acquisition Were Not So Glorious
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#70 Disruptive Thinkers: Defining the Problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#71 Disruptive Thinkers: Defining the Problem
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#72 Sunday Book Review: Mind of War
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#78 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#104 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#3 Time to Think ... and to Listen
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#5 Hardware v. People
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#23 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#25 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#31 Rome speaks to us. Their example can inspire us to avoid their fate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#17 Hierarchy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#21 The Age of Unsatisfying Wars
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#24 Baby Boomer Guys -- Do you look old? Part II
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#63 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#68 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#0 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#24 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#51 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'? thoughts please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#20 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#40 Core characteristics of resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#79 Romney and Ryan's Phony Deficit-Reduction Plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#2 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#5 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#45 Introducing John Boyd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#50 Arming for the Navy's Return to History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#58 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#97 What a Caveman Can Teach You About Strategy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#29 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#64 Guest Post: Beakley on Boyd, Aerial Combat and the OODA-Loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#23 Jedi Knights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#29 Jedi Knights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#38 Jedi Knights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#83 Protected: R.I.P. Containment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#1 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#71 Is orientation always because what has been observed? What are your 'direct' experiences?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#15 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#26 Cultural attitudes towards failure

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AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:55:22 -0500
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
MIP ENVY from ibm jargon:

MIP envy - n. The term, coined by Jim Gray in 1980, that began the Tandem Memos (q.v.). MIP envy is the coveting of other's facilities -


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#43 AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix

tandem memos really began after i distributed some notes after visiting Jim at Tandem. first two entries in "tandem memos"

Date: 04/02/81 17:13:54
From: wheeler

re: visit to Tandem & Jim Gray

Tandem system written in high level language. In all the time Gray has been there, the system has never gone down. There have been two power failures in that time tho. For the duration of the power failure system operation was "suspended". When power came back on, operation resumed from the point where it was interrupted. Only complaint was that the grafic displays don't have emergency power supply so that any modifications to the screen at the time of the failure were lost. Somebody (didn't get his name but have seen him around) from STL IMS design had just joined Tandem two weeks earlier. Pay is attractive, also stock plan is option to buy any time within two years. Gray said typical offer is somewhere around a stock a day. Apparently stock has gone up 10 pts(?) in last month or so & there are lots of people at Tandem that are tens of thousands of dollars richer. Over next year Tandem is good stock buy even if you don't join company. 3x5 pictures of everyone in software & firmware plus new hardware design all fit on one cork board. Average productivity for the software group (which includes design, documentation, implementation, debug, & the first year maintenance) is over 10,000 lines of code per year. Software people carry a project completely thru from design to having responsibility for 1st year maintenance. They also have a large share in the monthly lease of any product they produce. Four people who just had a new software product announce got $25k each which represents their share of just the initial three months of the product lease (this is over and above their salary). Which is pretty good for 1) new product announcement (sales should increase) and 2) percentage take on each install.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 04/03/81 09:03:12
From: wheeler

Re: visit to Tandem and Jim Gray:

also bears remembering that the cited 10000 lines of code per year is RELEASED code. Tandem was said to be very interested in developing code which their 300 customers want to run now ... in other words not the best code or code which can be seen to advance the state of the art but code which will sell the most copies and thus make its authors richer (direct relation there as opposed to us galley slaves).

At that, there are a lot of programs that Tandem has not got yet, such as the SCRIPT that Gray may be writing, SCANFILE, DIFF, and on. Lots of effort will be needed to reinvent these. Another point Gray made was that the employees are indeed using their machines for timesharing but the custmer base does nothing of the sort and is not much interested (industrial control etc is what Tandem machines do).


... snip ... top of post, old email index

in reaction to various legal actions, there was 23jun69 unbundling announcement that started to charge for application software, se services, other things ... however they made the case that kernel software should still be free. misc. past posts mentioning unbundling.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundling

FS was going to completely replace 360/370 and had totally different architecture ... during the effort, lots of the 370 activities and/or canceled; ... the lack of 370 products during the period is credited with clone processors gaining market foothold. misc. past posts mentioning FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

in the wake of the FS failure, there was then mad rush to get 370 hardware & software products back into the pipeline ... and also to start charging for kernel products ... with my "resource manager" being the guinea pig ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

data processing division provided for "field" division employees that produced software products for sale ... the equivalent of the first two months lease for all software products. the science centers were considered part of the field ... and the month before my resource manager was released, another software product was released from the science center ... and the people got payed. In the month between the release of that product and my product, the science centers were reclassified as hdqtrs (not field) ... and i wouldn't get anything for the resource manager ($895/month ... well over 1000 customers)

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New HD

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New HD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:20:04 -0500
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:
On the other hand, the story upthread happened in 1993. Already then -- or a few years later -- it was understood that if your program couldn't cope with running on an SMP system, it was plain broken.

The easiest way to avoid that was not to use threads. The easiest way to guarantee breakage was to use threads, without having an SMP system to test on.

My first PC (a high-end AST, in 1996) had a free CPU socket on the motherboard for a second Pentium. Of course, it never made sense to add one, with hardware evolving so fast back then.

I still don't own an actual SMP or "multi-core" system.


there were system support for multiprocessors on server side going back decades ... handling multiple different applications running simultaneously ... and there were some number of multi-threaded system software like dbms and transaction systems that could take advantage of multiprocessors. although lots of the earlier implementations only allowed processor executing in single section of code at a time ... aka different applications running on different processors with kernel spin-lock ... so that entry to kernel was limited to single processor at a time.

old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#78
referencing
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/01/mundie_mundie/

from above:
Microsoft, to its credit, has multi-threaded the calculations in Office Excel 2007. But that's about where the credit ends.

Intel and AMD executives fail to hide their disappointment with Microsoft well on the multi-threaded software front.

During a speech last June, Intel SVP Pat Gelsinger said the following:

"A couple of years ago, I had a discussion with Bill Gates (about the multi-core products). He was just in disbelief. He said, 'We can't write software to keep up with that.'"

Gates ordered the Intel executive to keep pumping out faster product. "No, Bill, it's not going to work that way," Gelsinger informed him.


... snip ...

Sequent had 32-way in the 80s/90s supported by their dynix version of unix ... and in the 90-s were one of the companies doing 256-way with sci. we did some work with sequent about their 256-way Numa-Q ... and they mentioned that they done most of the work on NT to take it past 4-way scale-up.

i've mentioned before that charlie had invented compare-and-swap when he was working on cp67 fine-grain multiprocessor locking (instruction named compare-and-swap because CAS are charlie's initials) at the science center. misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
past posts mentioning compare-and-swap and/or multiprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

effort was then made to have compare-and-swap added to the upcoming 370 ... but was initially rebuffed by the owners of 370 architecture. they claimed that the corporate favorite-son batch operating system people were claiming test-and-set (multiprocessor locking) instruction (from 360s) was more than adequate for multiprocessor operation. The "challenge" was to come up with other compare-and-swap uses (than kernel multiprocessor locking) in order to get compare-and-swap added to 370 ... the result was the application multi-threaded examples (whether running on multiprocessor or not) ... which still appear in principles of operation
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dz9zr003/A.6?DT=20040504121320

misc. past posts mentioning 256-way &/or numa-q
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#46 Small IBM shops
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#54 VM & VSE news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#55 VM & VSE news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#83 HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#45 M$ SMP and old time IBM's LCMP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#6 Memory Affinity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#13 Performance and Capacity Planning
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#43 Numa-Q Information
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#46 Numa-Q Information
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005v.html#0 DMV systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#40 IBM 610 workstation computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#9 Is no one reading the article?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#3 University rank of Computer Architecture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#78 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#13 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#1 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#2 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#5 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#5 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#5 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#20 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#59 Problem with XP scheduler?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#27 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#68 Entry point for a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#13 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#48 Nonlinear systems and nonlocal supercomputing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#19 How many mainframes are there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#61 IBM to announce new MF's this year
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#54 IBM Unleashes 256-core Unix Server, Its Biggest Yet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#85 SV: USS vs USS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#79 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#122 Deja Cloud?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#94 Time to competency for new software language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#15 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?

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Insider Fraud: What to Monitor

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 21 Jan 2013
Subject: Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Insider Fraud: What to Monitor; Cases Showcase Risks Posed by Trusted Employees
http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/insider-fraud-what-to-monitor-a-5425?rf=2013-01-16-eb

Note that claim is that SEC already had the authority needed to prevent ENRON and/or WORLDCOM ... but Sarbanes-Oxley added additional authority and penalty ... claim at the time that top executives and auditors would go to jail for incorrect public company financial filings ... however, it still required SEC to do something. Apparently even GAO didn't think SEC was doing anything and started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing uptic after Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-395R .
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-06-678 .
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-06-1079sp

where both executives and auditors should be going to jail. There was some snide remarks at the time of Sarbanes-Oxley passing that major reason for SOX was gift to the audit industry ... and otherwise wouldn't make any difference.

Other tidbits no.2 responsible for financial crisis:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

glba, commodities futures act, Enron, Worldcom, AIG, repeal Glass-Steagall, preventing CDSs from being regulated, eliminating regulations, cutting regulation funding, and pressure to not enforce regulation.

Gramm and the 'Enron Loophole'
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html

Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

... snip ...

and an older article: Phil Gramm's Enron Favor
https://web.archive.org/web/20080711114839/http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/

A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this, the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees,

... snip ...

Note that while other regulatory agencies were enabling financial institutions for the economic mess ... the move of loans and mortgages to securitized instruments also brought them under the authority of SEC. There were $27T of such instruments done during the bubble ... significantly enabled by being able to pay for triple-A ratings (congressional hearings into role that rating agencies played in the financial mess were that both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

Sarbanes-Oxley even included provision for SEC to do something about rating agencies.

Paying for the triple-A rating eliminated anybody needing to care about borrower's qualifications, loan quality and/or even needing supporting documents. It was even possible for institutions to specifically create triple-A rated toxic CDOs to fail, sell them to their customers and then take out CDS bets that the CDOs would fail (where CFTC was now prevented from doing anything about the CDS part).

Another view was that during the congressional hearings into the role that the rating agencies played in the mess was that their business model was misaligned ... and that it is enormously more difficult to regulate operations that had business model where the entities are motivated to do the wrong thing. It was pointed out that while ratings were for the benefit of the buyers ... the sellers were paying for the ratings .... aligning the rating agencies on behalf of the sellers, not the buyers. The objectives of the sellers paying for triple-A ratings was to open up the market of toxic CDOs to the institutions limited to only dealing in "safe" investments (like the large institutional retirement funds).

The rating agencies business model became misaligned in the early 70s ... when you found things like rating agency selling off their pricing&valuation division.

disclaimer: securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of the mortgage supporting documents (as countermeasure to fraudulent mortgages). However, with being able to pay for triple-A ratings ... it was then possible to do no-documentation mortgages (triple-A rating trumped documentation) ... and w/o documentation there was no longer issue with supporting documentation integrity.

One of the reasons for complaints later (as the economy was crashing & burning) about difficulty being able to evaluate triple-A rated toxic CDOs ... was the missing documentation.

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 21 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/business/a-fed-voice-asking-to-cut-megabanks-down-to-size.html
and similar post in general linkedin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

from last spring:

The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks
http://www.businessinsider.com/dallas-fed-calls-for-breakup-of-big-banks-2012-3

cross-over discussion from last spring in Google+
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/YjChaKhL2t6
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#1 The Dallas Fed Is Calling For The Immediate Breakup Of Large Banks

comment from above:
Scary fact from the article:

The top 10 banks now account for 61 percent of commercial banking assets, substantially more than the 26 percent of only 20 years ago; their combined assets equate to half of our nation's GDP.


... snip ...

also:

Banking Regulator Calls for End of 'Too Big to Fail'
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/03/28/banking-regulator-calls-for-end-of-too-big-to-fail/

the other periodic theme is that the too-big-to-fail have taken advantage of the situation for lots of illegal activity and also have become too-big-to-jail.

posts mentioning above:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#21 AIG may join bailout lawsuit against U.S. government

more along similar lines, also

Secrets and Lies of the Bailout; The federal rescue of Wall Street didn't fix the economy -- it created a permanent bailout state based on a Ponzi-like confidence scheme. And the worst may be yet to come
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/secret-and-lies-of-the-bailout-20130104

from above:
America's six largest banks -- Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley -- now have a combined 14,420 subsidiaries, making them so big as to be effectively beyond regulation. A recent study by the Kansas City Fed found that it would take 70,000 examiners to inspect such trillion-dollar banks with the same level of attention normally given to a community bank.

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

part of my reply to your original post in general linkedin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

A decade ago, there was a periodic industry publication that gave the avg of thousands of measures for the largest national banks compared to the avg of the major regional banks. even at that time, the regional banks were slightly more profitable than the national banks (implying that going past regional size starts to exceed limits where there is efficiency of scale ... and becomes bloated and non-optimally). There have also been references that congressional "bribes" have the largest corporate ROI ... couple hundred million resulting in GLBA and repeal of Glass-Steagall ... and billions more since.

Actually the rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA was if you already had a bank charter you got to keep it, but if you didn't already have a charter you couldn't get one (aka primary purpose of GLBA was to limit bank competition, not repeal of Glass-Steagall). The major bail-outs were done by Federal Reserve behind the scenes (i.e. end of 2008 just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T in toxic assets off-balance; amount appropriated for TARP wouldn't have made a dent in the problem) ... including handing out new bank charters which theoretically should have been in violation of GLBA.

...

ref to the 5.2T in triple-A toxic CDOs being held off-balance (more refs on $27T toxic CDOs and triple-A ratings in the recent "Insider Fraud What to Monitor" discussion in this group):
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor

disclaimer: Jan2009 I was asked to "HTMLize" the recently scanned (fall2008 at Boston Public Library) Pecora Hearings (congressional hearings into crash of 29 that resulted in Glass-Steagall) with heavy internal cross-links and lots of URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (some anticipation that the new congress would have appetite to do something). After working on it for some time, I got a call that it wouldn't be needed to after all (some reference to enormous pile of wallstreet money blanketing capital hill).

reference to Greenspan allowing the enormous amount of off-book toxic assets:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I

note the fall of 2008, several tens of billions of triple-A rated toxic CDOs had been sold for 22cents on the dollar. The $700B appropriated in TARP to buy toxic assets wouldn't even have purchased all of the $5.2T at 22cents on the dollar (but at that price, the four largest TBTF would have been declared insolvent and forced to be liquidated). Later in the shadow bail-out by the Federal Reserve, it was buying off-book triple-A rated toxic CDOs at 98cents on the dollar

past references to the federal reserve shadow bailout
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#23 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#46 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#58 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#66 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#3 Greed, Excess and America's Gaping Class Divide
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#11 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#39 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#23 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#37 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#74 The Wall Street Pentagon Papers: Biggest Scam In World History Exposed: Are The Federal Reserve's Crimes Too Big To Comprehend?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#93 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#3 The Obama Spending Non-surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#7 FDR explains one dimension of our problem: bankers own the government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#30 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#63 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#32 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#55 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#45 Banks Repaid Fed Bailout With Other Fed Money: Government Report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#26 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#65 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#50 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#69 General Mills computer

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New HD

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New HD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:54:46 -0500
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes:
OK, but I'd argue such applications were and are not the norm. If you're going to drop your process's memory protection anyway, why not use threads? (Assuming processes and threads were available in your environment.)

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#45 New HD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#48 New HD

while the number of different applications may not have been heavily threaded ... large critical applications that were major server use were ... like all the major RDBMS.

Earlier in this thread, I mentioned Charlie having invented compare-and-swap while doing fine-grain multi-processor locking work on cp67 at the science center. By the mid-80s most of major server platforms had support for compare-and-swap ... or instructions with similar semantics ... that were used for large multi-threaded applications (regardless of running on single processor or multi-processor machine).

some past posts about original RDBMS/SQL implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
also referenced here
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
and the '95 SQL Reunion
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/index.html
discussion that incorrectly attributes compare-and-swap to Dick Case (some amount of memory fade by the participants between the work in the 70s and the reunion in '95)
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Shoot-ou.html#Index311

past posts mentioning compare-and-swap and/or multiprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

rs/6000 (rios chipset) was risc single processor only and didn't have support for compare-and-swap semantics. in the unix world, large multi-threaded DBMS when running on hardware platforms w/o compare-and-swap semantics ... would fall back to kernel calls for appropriate serializations. the rs/6000 DBMS benchmarks suffered greatly (in comparison with platforms with support for compare-and-swap semantics). Finally AIXV3 was modified to provied a supervisor-call simulation for compare-and-swap (only works on single processor machine) which supported compare-and-swap semantics in the supervisor-call interrupt routine ... with very short pathlength and return to application. past posts mentioning risc, 801, romp, rios, pc/rt, rs/6000, somerset, power, power/pc, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

for other drift ... since rios chipset was single-processor only ... the only other available path for scale-up was cluster/loosely-coupled ... which we started doing in our ha/cmp product ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

there were lots of activity working with national labs and other institutions on scientific and numerical intensive workloads ... but the primary straight-forward commercial was the large RDBMS that had both vax/vms cluster support and portable versions to unix platforms. the deal in ha/cmp was to provide vax/vms cluster global lock manager semantics to aid in port of unix platform. Some number of the RDBMS vendors had list of things that had been done wrong in the vax/vms cluster global lock manager ... and since I was started from scratch, I could implement the same API semantics ... while avoiding doing the "wrong" things ... including some fixing some performance bottlenecks blocking some of the higher scale-up levels. old post about early jan92 meeting in ellison's conference room on cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

and some old email about cluster scale-up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

as periodically mentioned ... possibly within hrs of the last email referenced ... end of jan92 ... the scale-up stuff was transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors.

then a couple weeks later ... rs/6000 scale-up is announced as supercomputer for scientific and numerical intensive only; 17Feb1992 press reference:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
later press reference 11May1992 about having been caught totally by surprise by the interest in cluster (i made lots of snide comments at the time)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

in any case it significantly contributed to motivation for leaving later that summer.

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slightly O/T but interesting

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: slightly O/T but interesting
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2013 12:20:37 -0800
R.Skorupka@BREMULTIBANK.COM.PL (R.S.) writes:
BTW: I prefer tokens over biometrics for the following reasons: 1. Biometrics is not reliable. Depending on the method used it could cause "false failures", for example a fingerprint after some injury cannot be recognized. Same about face recognition (BTDT), etc. So usually biometrics is backed up with ...regular password.

2. Some biometrics are slooow. I saw room access control system which had to be disabled, because there were long lines (queues) to the doors.

3. Some biometric devices built in your PC can be hacked, or in other words, your PC will receive OK from phony device instead of real one.


biometric will convert reading into numeric value and then do fuzzy compare with stored value. if the stored value is at a central location ... then it becomes a shared-secret authentication scheme (aka your biometric value) and shares various characteristics in common with shared-secret passwords. from 3-factor authentication paradigm

1) something you know (pin, password, mothers maiden name) 2) something you have (hardware token) 3) something you are (biometrics)

past posts about 3-factor authentication paradigm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#3factor

biometrics at remote unattended locations may be compromised by network exploit ... where somebody skims known biometric value and uses it in replay attack (aka analogous to password/pin skimming and replay attack).

biometrics tend to work better with secure stations ... especially if under constant surveillance by armed guards

recent references to Google authentication proposal

Google Ring of Power Could Render Passwords Obsolete
http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/google-ring-of-power-could-render-passwords-obsolete-5084.html
Google suggests jewelry or a device as a next-gen password
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2025794/google-suggests-jewelry-or-a-device-as-a-next-gen-password.html
Google Declares War On the Password
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/01/18/1721203/google-declares-war-on-the-password?sbsrc=md
Google Declares War On the Password
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/01/18/1721203/google-declares-war-on-the-password?sbsrc=md
Google Declares War on the Password
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/01/google-password/
Google looks to kill passwords, but experts say not so fast
http://www.csoonline.com/article/727053/google-looks-to-kill-passwords-but-experts-say-not-so-fast
Google looks to kill passwords, but experts say not so fast
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/011913-google-sees-one-password-ring-265979.html
Google sees one password ring to rule them all
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/022213-us-urged-to-take-comprehensive-266974.html
Google sees one password ring to rule them all
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9235971/Google_sees_one_password_ring_to_rule_them_all

and from Schneier
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/01/googles_authent.html

old post from 1998 about form factor agnostic authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm2.htm#straw

disclaimer: we have dozens of (assigned) patents in the area
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadssummary.htm

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
and similar post in general linkedin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

I think that the original purpose of being able to buy triple-A ratings on toxic CDOs (when both sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) was to enable victimizing both the people getting the loans (the loan originators no longer had to care about either the borrowers' qualifications or the loan quality) as well as opening the market to the large institutional (retirement & other) funds that are restricted to dealing in triple-A ... victimizing the rest of the world was sort of collateral damage. Reference to $27T done during the economic mess:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

wallstreet was possibly able to skim off $4T-$5T (of the $27T) which is major factor in claims that the industry tripled in size (as percent of GDP) during the bubble. The other claim is that much more is still held inside the country than outside the country. Lots of other stuff has been obfuscation and misdirection.

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IBM reveals a monster 36-core mainframe module

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM reveals a monster 36-core mainframe module
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2013 13:42:58 -0800
butlerj@US.IBM.COM (Jon Butler) writes:
Yes, they have been available for six months in the zE12...120 usable PUs...of which, in maximum configuration, 16 are configured as SAPs, 2 are spares, 1 is a reserve, and 101 are customer configurable as CPs, IFLs, zIIPs, zAAPs, ICFs or additional SAPs.

as an aside ... the peak z196 i/o benchmarks mentioned that 14 SAPs have peak 2.2M SSCH/sec (100% utilization) ... but recommendations are to keep SAP utilization below 70% (1.5m SSCH/sec)

101 zE12 processors are rated at 75BIPS (or 743MIPS/processor) compared to 80 z196 processors at 50BIPS (or 624MIPS/processor) ... for a factor of 1.2 times increase (per processor). 16 zE12 SAPS then might have peak of almost 3M SSCH/sec (100% utilization) or approx 2M/sec at 70% utilization.

past posts mentioning 2.2M SSCH/sec & peak z196 I/O benchmark
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#4 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#5 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#13 Intel Confirms Decline of Server Giants HP, Dell, and IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#28 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#43 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#67 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than any of the other countries in the world including the USA.?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#9 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than any of the other countries in the world including the USA.?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#13 System/360--50 years--the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#44 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#46 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#48 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#70 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#72 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#6 Mainframes are still the best platform for high volume transaction processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#21 Assembler vs. COBOL--processing time, space needed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#25 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#46 Random thoughts: Low power, High performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight

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New HD

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New HD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:23:59 -0500
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
ASCII comes from ANSI

story 360 was going to be ascii
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM

except for ... from above:
The culprit was T. Vincent Learson. The only thing for his defense is that he had no idea of what he had done. It was when he was an IBM Vice President, prior to tenure as Chairman of the Board, those lofty positions where you believe that, if you order it done, it actually will be done. I've mentioned this fiasco elsewhere.

... snip ...

by the "father of ascii"
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/FATHEROF.HTM
ascii papers
https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/PUBS-ASC.HTM

other recent references to learson (and fighting bureaucracy)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#11 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#12 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#18 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?

past posts mentioning "father of ascii"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#26 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#27 Origins of EBCDIC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#39 Mainframe Utility for EBCDIC to ASCII conversion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#41 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#63 CAPS Fantasia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#4 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#65 They've changed the keyboard layout _again_
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#9 Typewriter vs. Computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#67 Wondering if I am really eligible for this group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#6 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#45 HP getting out of computer biz
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#23 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#5 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#45 CRLF in Unix being translated on Mainframe to x'25'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#55 "Geek" t-shirts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#100 The PC industry is heading for collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#52 M68k add to memory is not a mistake any more
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#55 Just for a laugh... How to spot an old IBMer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#73 END OF FILE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#36 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#84 72 column cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#52 8-bit bytes and byte-addressed machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#56 Reduced Symbol Set Computing

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
and similar post in general linkedin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

sort of take-off on predictions, models and the "insider fraud: what to monitor" discussion.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor

there are periodic references to how wallstreet has "captured" the regulatory agencies and congress. "Inside Job" goes into some detail about various institutions being captured, including the economist profession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(2010_film)

"Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards" talks about specifically economists having been "captured" ... going back century.
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/

more recent reference loc72-74:
Only through having been caught so blatantly with their noses in the troughs (e.g. the 2011 Academy Award -- winning documentary Inside Job) has the American Economic Association finally been forced to adopt an ethical code, and that code is weak and incomplete compared with other disciplines.

and loc957-62:
The AEA was pushed into action by a damning research report into the systematic concealment of conflicts of interest by top financial economists and by a letter from three hundred economists who urged the association to come up with a code of ethics. Epstein and Carrick-Hagenbarth (2010) have shown that many highly influential financial economists in the US hold roles in the private financial sector, from serving on boards to owning the respective companies. Many of these have written on financial regulation in the media or in scholarly papers. Very rarely have they disclosed their affiliations to the financial industry in their writing or in their testimony in front of Congress, thus concealing a potential conflict of interest.

...

and old book that covers the early era covered in "Economists and the Powerful": "Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920"
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich

at the wayback machine ... in several formats. As an aside, the scanned Pecora Hearings are also available at the wayback machine

other recent posts mentioning references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#51 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#62 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#20 The Big Fail

it also covers some of the deal with wallstreet for creating the federal reserve ... and has a couple items that are sort of related to the recent uproar about creating trillion dollar coin. loc754-62:
In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."

... snip ...

It also covers some of Teddy Roosevelt's colonialism ... and that Mayan was pal of Teddy. Mahan & his writing has shown up recently with reference to countries in the far east being devout students of Mahan. from recent economist article:
A CENTURY ago the ideas of an American naval officer, Alfred Thayer Mahan -- pal of Teddy Roosevelt, inventor of the term "the Middle East", advocate of American expansionism in Asia and father of the modern American navy -- were much in vogue among military strategists and great-power leaders

....

I've mentioned periodically sponsoring Col. Boyd's briefings in the 80s ... one of Boyd's major acolytes has theme on perpetual war
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html

from "Triumphant plutocracy" loc6265-74:
XXX. THE LEAGUE TO PERPETUATE WAR The war has just begun. I said that when the Armistice terms were published and when I read the Treaty and the League Covenant I felt more than ever convinced of the justice of my conclusion. The Treaty of Versailles is merely an armistice -- a suspension of hostilities, while the combatants get their wind. There is a war in every chapter of the Treaty and in every section of the League Covenant; war all over the world; war without end so long as the conditions endure which produce these documents.

... snip ...

also talks about lots of interactions between wallstreet and politics for perpetual war.

While Boyd was Air Force, wrote fighter pilot manual used by air forces all over the world and major force behind the design of F15, F16, and F18 ... by the time he died, he had been pretty much disowned by the Air Force ... but had been adopted by the Marines (his effects are at the Marine Corps Library at Quantico). A Marine perspective about wallstreet behind perpetual war during early part of last century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
and then there is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war

Spinney's tribute to Boyd that appeared in the Naval Institute proceedings (now at wayback machine)
http://radio-weblogs.com/0107127/stories/2002/12/23/genghisJohnChuckSpinneysBioOfJohnBoyd.html
for institute members
http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1997-07/genghis-john

another recent Mahan reference (Mahan works are at both Gutenberg and wayback)
http://thediplomat.com/the-naval-diplomat/2013/01/14/mahan-bean-counting-and-ideas/

ends with tribute to Boyd

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Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:49:51 -0500
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
I am also taking it as a reasonable assumption that you mean the RRE instructions.

Obviously, you can't just ask IBM, because such questions have antitrust implications.

But I don't think this was the reason. The format of those instructions was required in order to supply the needed information in their fields - so there wasn't a lack of a good reason for the change. The format was still very consistent.

It would have been a problem for Amdahl, given that he was going on in his designs from the hardwired 370/195. But other plug-compatible manufacturers were following IBM's lead in sticking with microprogrammed machines - IBM with the 360/85 to 370/168 to 3033 lineage as the remaining top of its line. Some hardware changes could well have been needed even for them, but such machines are of course inherently more flexible. So I doubt there were major competitive implications.


the machines were "horizontal" microcode with few tools ... and were really difficult to develop, test, and deploy. mvs/se started with 3033 ... in part because neither base 3033 nor the subsequent 3081 were really competitive with the clone offerings .... some of it discussed here:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

i.e. Future System effort was going to completely replace 360/370 and internal politics was killing off 370 efforts; the lack of 370 efforts during (and after) the FS period is credited with giving clone processors (like Amdahl) a market foothold. Then with the demise of FS there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines. misc. past posts mentioning FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

a series of lots of these little tweaks were required for operating system use ... but not apparent to application software. at the time, I was told, it was major motivation for Amdahls "macrocode" ... i.e. a variation on 370 instruction in special microcode mode ... made it enormously easier to do machine architecture tweaks (compared to the enormous effort required with horizontal microcode). The ease of "macrocode" then also resulted in Amdahl's "hypervisor" implementation (subset of virtual machine function not requiring separate operating system). That essentially reversed the situation ... with IBM eventually having to respond with PR/SM for the 3090 (but was much more difficult to develop since it required traditional horizontal microcode implementation).

misc. past posts mentioning macrocode:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#52 Virtual Machine Concept
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word "microcode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned programming language
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#42 New Opcodes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#26 Op codes removed from z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#51 speculation: z/OS "enhancments"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#93 Irrational desire to author fundamental interfaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#102 Question on PR/SM dispatcher
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:58:04 -0500
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

high-end 370s were horizontal microcode while entry & mid-range were vertical microcode (similar to standard programming most people are familiar with).

horizontal microcode could get multiple things going at once ... so measure was done in avg. number of machine cycles per 370 instruction (since there could be some overlap). 370/165 had avg. of 2.1 machine cycles per 370 instruction. 370/168-1 had some microcode rework that got it down to 1.6 machine cycles per 370 instruction ... but also went to new memory technology that was better than four times faster (than 165) reduce cache miss latency. 370/168-3 doubled the cache size (of 168-1) that improved avg. MIP rate (by having fewer cache misses).

the mad rush to get stuff back in 370 product pipeline involved some slight cosmetic changes of 158-3 for 3031 and 168-3 for 3032. The 3033 started out being 168-3 logic remapped to chips were 20% faster. The chips also had ten times the circuits per chip ... initially went unused. Some last minute logic rework to use more circuits per chip and some tweaking of microcode got 3033 up to 1.5 times 168-3 and as well as avg. of approx one machine cycle per 370 instructions.

MVS/SE was theoretically to do something similar on 3033 for MVS as had been done for ECPS (vm microcode assist) originally done for 138/148 (and later on 4331/4341). The issue was that these were vertical microcode machines that avg. 10 vertical microcode instructions per 370 instruction (somewhat similar to the 370 simulators that run today on non-370 machines). For typical kernel/supervisor instruction mix, there was approx 1:1 mapping between 370 instructions and vertical microcode ... resulting in an approx. speedup of ten times. I had gotten con'ed into helping do VM/ECPS for 138/148 ... this is old post with some of the kernel analysis that led to selection of kernel pieces to drop into microcode:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21

doing something similar for MVS on 3033 was nearly impossible to see any speedup ... since the 3033 was already doing approx. one 370 instruction per machine cycle; and even had issue that it could run slower (even tho MVS/SE was publically justified because if was suppose to run faster)

vm370 had two types of microcode speedups ... 1) pieces of the kernel dropped into microcode ... where the microcode ran faster than the corresponding 370 instructions and 2) doing virtual machine privilege instruction simulation directly in microcode avoiding the interrupts, state change saving registers, doing simulation, state change restoring register and resuming virtual machine execution. Things in category #1 could see 10:1 speedup on low/mid range machines ... but zero or even degradation on high-end machines. Things in category #2 could see speedup on all machines. MVS/SE on high-end 3033 didn't have any category #2 speedups ... just things in category #1. Amdahl "hypervisor" were category #2 speedups as well as eliminating the need for software virtual machine operating system.

About the time Amdahl was starting work on "hypervisor" I had gotten permission to give a Baybunch talk (held monthly at SLAC in palo alto) on all the work and details of vm/ecps. Offline they would ask more detailed questions of the vm/ecps work as well as sharing some of the stuff that they were doing.

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Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2013
Subject: Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
Blog: Facebook
Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/choice-of-mary-jo-white-to-head-sec-puts-fox-in-charge-of-hen-house-20130125

periodic theme here
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com

is that there is no difficulty proving case under provisions of sarbanes-oxley and all the executives (and auditors) go to jail. none of joe kennedy's difficulty in figuring out what they did or what regulations are needed, are an issue.

point here
https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS/

is that all of the economic advisers instrumental in getting president elected the 1st term, wanted to hold those responsible accountable ... none of the people that the president appointed were from that group.

also: "Something Sinister About the Lack of Prosecutions at Lehman Brothers"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/ian-fraser-something-sinister-about-the-lack-of-prosecutions-at-lehman-brothers.html

For Once, Maybe Lying Does Not Pay: Do's Lanny Breuer Resignation Leaked After Frontline Appearance
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/for-once-maybe-lying-does-not-pay-dojs-lanny-breuer-resigns-abruptly-after-frontline-appearance.html

This is nonsense. We've discussed at length how top bank executives could be prosecuted for making false certifications under Sarbanes Oxley, which requires at a minimum that the bank certify the adequacy of internal controls, which for a large trading firm, includes risk management. We've also written about collusion and lack of arm's length pricing in the CDO market, which would lend themselves to antitrust charges (price fixing is criminal under the Sherman Act).

misc. past posts mentioning "Confidence Men":
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#67 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#74 Derivatives and free trade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#79 Financial Crimes Bedevil Prosecutors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#83 Heading For World War III | Gerald Celente Trends Blog
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#88 Fed Report Finds Speculators Played Big Role in Housing Collapse
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#91 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#44 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#47 Avoiding a lost decade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#43 Where are all the old tech workers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#63 The Economist's Take on Financial Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#13 The White House and Mortgage Fraud: So Far It's All Talk, No Action
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#83 Why Can't Obama Bring Wall Street to Justice?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#25 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#77 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#1 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#6 Good article. Friday discussion type
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#86 Study: One in Five Firms Misrepresent Earnings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#40 Core characteristics of resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#79 Romney and Ryan's Phony Deficit-Reduction Plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#48 The Payoff: Why Wall Street Always Wins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#53 CALCULATORS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#64 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#61 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#57 Bull by the Horns

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Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:24:39 -0500
James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> writes:
Exsysco built a plug-compatible machine almost identical to 370/158. That company was purchased by National Semi which later developed a prototype 3033 look-alike.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#59 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

Some recruiter contacted about interviewing for technical assistant to the president of one of the clone processor companies (not Amdahl). It turns out during the interview they started hinting about internal IBM documents ... I shut the discussion down by mentioning that I had contributed to rewrite of some sections of the IBM corporate "code of contact" manual ... that every employee had to sign once a year that they had read (because it didn't specifically prohibit certain kinds of activity).

Turns out that I had a complete set of Registered Confidential documents for (unannounced) 370/xa (would be introduced in 3081). Registered Confidential requires special locked cabinet with special combination lock and is subject to periodic auditing by site security. I conjectured that somebody with access to list of those with Registered Confidential documents had leaked the information. All registered confidential documents have document copy serial number and banner printed on every page ... and requires special need-to-know justification.

There was later a justice legal action against the company and I got to spend several hrs with fbi agent describing what went on during the interview.

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Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2013
Subject: Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102794881687002297268/posts/WauRXYySLLh

Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-25/taleb-skin-game-and-his-disdain-public-intellectuals

The "flawed model" refrain was frequently obfuscation and misdirection ... from the period were reports that the business people forced the risk managers to fiddle the inputs until they got the desired results
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/how-wall-streets-quants-lied-to-their-computers/

Also from congressional hearings into pivotal role that rating agencies played ... triple-A ratings were being purchased for toxic CDOs even when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew that they weren't worth triple-A. The triple-A ratings trump documentation and loan originators could start doing no-documentation loans, also no longer needed to care about borrower's qualifications or loan quality. Institutions even purposefully created triple-A toxic CDOs designed to fail, sold them to their customers and then took out CDS bets that they would fail. All facilitating being able to do $27T during the bubble
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

past posts referencing the "Quants lied" &/or $27T article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#49 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#52 Technology and the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#53 Your thoughts on the following comprehensive bailout plan please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#56 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#65 Whether, in our financial crisis, the prize for being the biggest liar is
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#69 Another quiet week in finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#72 Why was Sarbanes-Oxley not good enough to sent alarms to the regulators about the situation arising today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#78 Isn't it the Federal Reserve role to oversee the banking system??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#80 Why did Sox not prevent this financal crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#82 Fraud in financial institution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#15 Financial Crisis - the result of uncontrolled Innovation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#18 Once the dust settles, do you think Milton Friedman's economic theories will be laid to rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#19 What's your view of current global financial / economical situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#26 SOX (Sarbanes-Oxley Act), is this really followed and worthful considering current Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#28 Does anyone get the idea that those responsible for containing this finanical crisis are doing too much?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#34 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#75 In light of the recent financial crisis, did Sarbanes-Oxley fail to work?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#82 Greenspan testimony and securization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#83 Chip-and-pin card reader supply-chain subversion 'has netted millions from British shoppers'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#70 Is there any technology that we are severely lacking in the Financial industry?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#49 Have not the following principles been practically disproven, once and for all, by the current global financial meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#50 Obama, ACORN, subprimes (Re: Spiders)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#58 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#64 Is This a Different Kind of Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#8 Top financial firms of US are eyeing on bailout. It implies to me that their "Risk Management Department's" assessment was way below expectations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#23 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#29 Let IT run the company!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#55 Is this the story behind the crunchy credit stuff?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#62 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#14 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#63 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#80 Are reckless risks a natural fallout of "excessive" executive compensation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#65 What can agencies such as the SEC do to insure us that something like Madoff's Ponzi scheme will never happen again?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#4 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#7 Are Ctibank's services and products so vital to global economy than no other banks can substitute it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#9 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#16 The Formula That Killed Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#18 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#30 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#36 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#40 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#59 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#64 Should AIG executives be allowed to keep the bonuses they were contractually obligated to be paid?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#77 Who first mentioned Credit Crunch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#31 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#35 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#41 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#56 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#1 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#27 Flawed Credit Ratings Reap Profits as Regulators Fail Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#31 OODA-loop obfuscation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#10 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#25 The Paradox of Economic Recovery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#49 IBM to Build Europe, Asia 'Smart Infrastructure'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#38 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#49 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#21 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#87 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#8 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#10 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#66 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#75 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#60 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#10 Cracking the code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#73 Did You Hear the One About the Bankers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#36 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#37 Civilization, doomed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#83 The banking sector grew seven times faster than gross domestic product since the beginning of the financial crisis and Too-Big-to-Fail: Banks Get Bigger After Dodd-Frank
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#3 The Obama Spending Non-surge
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#41 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#70 No One Telling Who Took $586B in Fed Swaps
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#135 Estimate that WW1 cost $52B
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#32 Wall Street Bonuses May Reach Lowest Level in 3 Years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#19 "Buffett Tax" and truth in numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#65 Why Wall Street Should Stop Whining
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#67 How Economists Contributed to the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#82 Mathematics < Integrity = Financial Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#95 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#30 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#32 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#45 Fannie, Freddie Charge Taxpayers For Legal Bills
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#32 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#42 China's J-20 Stealth Fighter Is Already Doing A Whole Lot More Than Anyone Expected
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#23 Are mothers naturally better at OODA because they always have the Win in mind?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#40 Who Increased the Debt?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#58 Word Length
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#31 Rome speaks to us. Their example can inspire us to avoid their fate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#63 One maths formula and the financial crash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#69 Freefall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#75 Fed Report: Mortgage Mess NOT an Inside Job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#80 The Failure of Central Planning
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#87 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#6 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#7 Adult Supervision
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#28 REPEAL OF GLASS-STEAGALL DID NOT CAUSE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS - WHAT DO YOU THINK?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#71 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#76 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#26 US economic update. Everything that follows is a result of what you see here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#32 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#75 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#17 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#60 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#4 Interesting News Article
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#28 Why Asian companies struggle to manage global workers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#65 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#48 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#56 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#12 Why Auditors Fail To Detect Frauds?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#7 Beyond the 10,000 Hour Rule
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#69 Can Open Source Ratings Break the Ratings Agency Oligopoly?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#51 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#49 Insider Fraud: What to Monitor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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what makes a computer architect great?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: what makes a computer architect great?
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:24:05 -0500
nmm1 writes:
I am not denying the appeal - I am saying that the harm caused by that superficially simple approach outweighs any benefits tens or hundreds to one. We learnt that in the 1970s :-(

that was something that tss/360 didn't learn ... when I was doing paged-mapped filesystem for cms in the early 70s ... I tried to avoid all the things that tss/360 had done wrong.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

this was in parallel when future system effort was trying to emulate the single level store from tss/360 ... w/o any corrections ... which possibly contributed to FS failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

s/38 is periodically described as simplified future system implementation ... however, for the s/38 entry level market ... the enormous performance penalties of simple single-level store design was never really an issue (simplicity outweighed performance).

the poor performance reputation of single-level-store from tss/360 and future system possibly contributed to decisions to not allow me to ship my cms paged mapped filesystem ... even tho i had benchmarks where it significantly outperformed that of standard cms filesystem.

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OT -- hackers

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: OT -- hackers
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 26 Jan 2013 10:53:21 -0800
zedgarhoover@GMAIL.COM (zMan) writes:
ObAnecdote (not directly related, but fun): a friend has lock picking skills (and picks). He swears the following is true.

annual hackers conference (origins predate use of "hacker" to refer to crooks and attackers; initially I was the only ibm employee that was invited) has had several sessions with lock pick and safe combination instruction/practice.

there use to be reference that there were really only 200 people in silicon valley (most of them hacker attendees), there just seemed like more because they kept moving around a lot.

before things got so commercial, competitors could bring unannounced products to the conference and play with each others toys.

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what makes a computer architect great?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: what makes a computer architect great?
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:06:31 -0500
nmm1 writes:
I regard the performance issue (important though it is) as trivial compared with the correctness, RAS, security etc. one. System/38 and all that were NOT general-purpose systems, and could get away with the assumption that there was a single set of co-designed applications (with all of the simplification that entails).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#63 what makes a computer architect great?

I actually was able to improve RAS, security and parallelism ... including support old-style filesystem semantics. a big performance benefit was 360/370 style channel program paradigm was performance disaster ... aka aligned the file system semantics with the virtual memory paradigm; i supported "windowing" as paradigm to emulate multiple buffer overlapped operation; could use "window" semantics to simulate old-style buffer i/o ... or single large memory map with demand page ... or spectrum between the two.

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How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2013
Subject: How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#50 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#51 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#57 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
and similar post in general linkedin
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#44 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size

Why the World Economic Forum and Goldman Sachs are Capitalism's Worst Enemies
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/davos-still-pushes-failed-global-vision.html

Large, individual accounting control frauds cause greater financial losses than all other forms of property crime -- combined. Accounting control frauds are weapons of mass financial destruction. Epidemics of accounting control fraud drove the national crisis that produced the Great Recession. We have reliable information on this in the United States, the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Iceland. Spain has kept the facts about lending too opaque to determine reliably what caused their bubble to hyper-inflate, but the lending pattern is consistent with accounting control fraud. These accounting control fraud epidemics drove crisis that caused a loss of over $20 trillion in wealth and cost roughly 20 million workers their jobs.

... snip ...

Zombie Banks: How Broken Banks and Debtor Nations Are Crippling the Global Economy
https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Banks-Crippling-Bloomberg-ebook/dp/B0060IWMNY

Has intro Sheila Bair saying the gov. chose the "Japan" zombie bank solution.

Confidence Men: Wall Street Washington, and the Education of a President
https://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS/

Had the president's "A-team" (instrumental in getting him elected), pushing for accountability and in the "Japan-or-Sweden" choice opt'ing for the Swedish solution. Then the president appoints the B-team that takes the "Japan" solution and not interested in holding those responsible accountable (some having been part of the problem).

Taleb On "Skin In The Game" And His Disdain For Public Intellectuals
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-25/taleb-skin-game-and-his-disdain-public-intellectuals

Taleb drew wide attention after the 2007 publication of The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable, which warned that our institutions and risk models aren't designed to account for rare and catastrophic events. Among other things, the book cautioned that oversized and unaccountable banks using flawed investment models could bring on a financial crisis

... snip ...

The flawed model refrain was frequently obfuscation and misdirection ... from the period were reports that the business people forced the risk managers to fiddle the inputs until they got the desired results
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/how-wall-streets-quants-lied-to-their-computers/

Also from congressional hearings into pivotal role that rating agencies played ... triple-A ratings were being purchased for toxic CDOs even when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew that they weren't worth triple-A. The triple-A ratings trump documentation and loan originators could start doing no-documentation loans, also no longer needed to care about borrower's qualifications or loan quality. Institutions even purposefully created triple-A toxic CDOs designed to fail, sold them to their customers and then took out CDS bets that they would fail. All facilitating being able to do $27T during the bubble
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-27/evil-wall-street-exports-boomed-with-fools-born-to-buy-debt

How Iceland Overthrew The Banks: The Only 3 Minutes Of Any Worth From Davos
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-26/only-3-minutes-worth-listening-davos

Simply put, he says, "we didn't follow the prevailing orthodoxies of the last 30 years in the Western world." There are lessons here for everyone - as Grimson explains the process of creative destruction that remains much needed in Western economies

... snip ...

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Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:18:58 -0500
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
MVS/SE was theoretically to do something similar on 3033 for MVS as has been done for ECPS (vm microcode assist) originally done for 138/148 (and later on 4331/4341). The issue was that these were vertical microcode machines that avg. 10 vertical microcode instructions per 370 instruction (somewhat similar to the 370 simulators that run today on non-370 machines). For typical kernel/supervisor instruction mix, there was approx 1:1 mapping between 370 instructions and vertical microcode ... resulting in an approx. speedup of ten times. I had gotten con'ed into helping do VM/ECPS for 138/148 ... this is old post with some of the kernel analysis that led to selection of kernel pieces to drop into microcode:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#59 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#61 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?

the 138/148 ecps work was starting just as Future System was being killed off.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

following FS being killed there was mad rush to get products (software & hardware) back into 370 product pipeline. POK also started a campaign to kill off the vm370 product, shutdown the vm370 group in Burlington Mall, and transfer all the people to POK to work on mvs/xa (justification to corporate that otherwise they would not be able to meet the mvs/xa ship shedule in the 80s.

in parallel with this, Endicott attempted to have every 138/148 shipped pre-installed with vm370. Corporate overruled this ... in part because agreeing with POK to kill vm370 product. Endicott eventually managed to save the vm370 product mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch.

Part of vm370 on every machine ... a combination of ECPS, highly optimised vm370 and VS1-handshaking ... it was possible for VS1 to run faster under VM370 than it could on the bare hardware (even tho available real storage was reduced by vm370 fixed kernel size).

Part of the issue was that under vm370, the virtual machine memory size was defined the same as VS1 virtual address space ... with a one-to-one mapping ... so that VS1 never directly did any paging. VS1-handshaking under vm370 would reflect to the VS1 supervisor when a page fault occurred (allowing VS1 to task switch to some other application) and when the page fetch had completed. I had vm370 page handling instruction pathlength that was much shorter than VS1 (as well as even enormously shorter than MVS) and I also had a much better page replacement algorithm ... as a result is was much more efficient for VS1 to let VM370 do its paging operations.

misc. past posts mentioning POK getting vm370 killed off (with excuse that they needed the people in order to make the mvs/xa product ship schedule ... even tho it was over 6yrs away).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#47 TSS/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#67 Hercules etc. IBM not just missing a great opportunity...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#14 Multics on emulated systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#53 Alpha performance, why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#22 303x, idals, dat, disk head settle, and other rambling folklore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#52 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#24 |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#35 network history (repeat, google may have gotten confused?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#23 US fiscal policy (Was: Bob Bemer, Computer Pioneer,Father of
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#58 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#59 Where should the type information be: in tags and descriptors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#25 IBM Plugs Big Iron to the College Crowd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#54 Q ALLOC PAGE vs. CP Q ALLOC vs ESAMAP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#25 auto reIPL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#30 auto reIPL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#14 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#35 Filemode 7-9?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#36 Filemode 7-9?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#25 Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#25 Mainframe Limericks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#51 The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#28 Assembler question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#23 How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#32 IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#41 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#7 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#25 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#28 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#55 IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#18 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#43 z/VM usability
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#67 Operating systems are old and busted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#35 IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#29 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#38 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#33 Age of IBM VM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#36 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#68 T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#76 T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#96 source for VAX programmers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#19 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers [was: Re: What do YOU call
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#30 VMware signs deal to embed software in HP servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#48 How did third-party software companies deal with unbundling being sprung on them?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#78 How powerful C64 may have been if it used an 8 Mhz 8088 or 68008? microprocessor (with otherwise the same hardware)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#75 Intel: an expensive many-core future is ahead of us
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#58 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#47 pc/370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#67 IBM tried to kill VM?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#14 Assembler Question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#54 THE runs in DOS box?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#32 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#36 SEs & History Lessons
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#37 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#62 Hercules; more information requested
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#44 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#74 Best IEFACTRT (off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#80 IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#19 Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#33 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#38 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#41 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#51 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#4 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#22 Why is JCL so bad was Re: Basic question on passing JCL set symbol to proc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#44 sysout using machine control instead of ANSI control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#100 "The Naked Mainframe" (Forbes Security Article)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#59 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#66 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#78 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#11 Crazed idea: SDSF for z/Linux
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#8 Far and near pointers on the 80286 and later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#1 History: Mark-sense cards vs. plain keypunching?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#19 Old EMAIL Index
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#45 PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#41 IBM 3883 Manuals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#18 IBM Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#43 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#98 History of copy on write
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#6 Mainframe upgrade done with wire cutters?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#18 Melinda Varian's history page move
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#25 Melinda Varian's history page move
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#70 vm/370 3081
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#77 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#52 Maybe off topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#30 vm370 running in "XA-mode"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#47 junking CKD; was "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#8 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#63 Before the PC: IBM invents virtualisation (Cambridge skunkworks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#42 assembler help!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#9 Was there ever a DOS JCL reference like the Brown book?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#79 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#90 New IBM Redbooks residency experience in Poughkeepsie, NY
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#41 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#6 John R. Opel, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#9 John R. Opel, RIP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#44 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#92 Question regarding PSW correction after translation exceptions on old IBM hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#81 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#82 Migration off mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#114 Start Interpretive Execution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#6 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#65 FAA 9020 - S/360-65 or S/360-67?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#70 Mainframe System 370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#38 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#39 SIE - CompArch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#17 Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#52 The dbdebunk revival
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#8 International Business Marionette
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#33 Using NOTE and POINT simulation macros on CMS?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#76 END OF FILE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#47 Official current definition of MVS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#52 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#64 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#34 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#35 Regarding Time Sharing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#53 What is holding back cloud adoption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#8 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?

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Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2013
Subject: Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
Blog: Facebook
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House

... in reference to comment that around 700 S&L executives went to jail

long-winded post from jan99 that includes a bit about S&L crisis.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

securitized mortgages had been used during S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. in the late 90s, we had been asked to look at improving the integrity of the supporting documents used in securitized mortgages (as countermeasure to mortgage fraud); however being able to pay for triple-A ratings trumps supporting documents and loan originators were able to start doing no-documentation mortgages.

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What is a Mainframe?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2013
Subject: What is a Mainframe?
Blog: Enterprise Systems
re:
http://lnkd.in/YipYAD
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#17 What is a Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#22 What is a Mainframe?

recent posts in long winded thread in alt.folklore.computers started out with discussion of mvs/se (on 3033) but gets into various kinds of microcode, ecps, Amdahl's hypervisor and pr/sm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 .
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#59 .
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#61 .
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#67 .

part of effort in 138/148 time-frame included vm/ecps microcode assist but also included vs1 handshaking ... where vs1 virtual address space was laid out 1-for-1 mapping in a vm/370 virtual machine (so vs1 didn't do any paging) ... and vm370 could present interrupts to vs1 supervisor when it started to do virtual page operation on behalf of vs1 (allowing vs1 to do task-switch) and when the operation completed. As mentioned, vs1 could even run faster under vm370 ... in part because my instruction pathlength for paging was significantly better than vs1 (and enormously better than mvs) ... as well as my page replacement algorithm was much better than vs1 (or mvs).

and for other drift ... recent posts in ibm-main mailing list on DASD, CKD, FBA, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#30 .
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#40 .

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Lotus 1-2-3 rebooted: My trip back to the old (named) range

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 rebooted: My trip back to the old (named) range
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:12:27 -0500
Lotus 1-2-3 rebooted: My trip back to the old (named) range
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/28/lotus_1_2_3_rebooted/

from above:
Bricklin and Frankston initially formed a company called Software Arts to commercialise the software. But VisiCalc was also marketed by another company with which Software Arts signed an agreement. This was Personal Software, run by Dan Fylstra. VisiCalc was so successful that Personal Software was renamed VisiCorp in 1982. Two of its other products were VisiTrend and VisiPlot, which covered statistics and business charting. These were written by Mitch Kapor, who worked at VisiCorp but owned personal rights to his software. VisiCorp bought out those rights for $1.7m, giving Kapor the resources to start his own company, Lotus Development Corp (LDC).

... snip ...

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New HD

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New HD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:06:08 -0500
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
You need real metal eventually, but you can make a good start using simulators. Sooner or later, though, you'll need the real thing. "In theory there's no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is."

I've periodically mentioned that the science center did a joint (distributed) effort with endicott for virtual (virtual memory) 370 that was up and running regular production a year before the first engineering model virtual memory 370/145 was operational.

370 virtual memory was similar but different to 360/67 virtual memory ... and there were also additional/new instructions that required simulation.

compounded the problem was that the original work was done on the science center production system ... which included non-employee users (students, staff, professors from various educational institutions in the boston area).

first all the code was added to copy of (virtual machine) cp67 to provide 370 virtual machine operation (different virtual memory simulation and simulation of new instructions). this version of cp67 was run in a cp67 virtual machine (rather than on real hardware) in order to eliminate any possible exposure to non-employees (while 370 had been announced, virtual memory feature for 370 hadn't been announced).

then a copy of cp67 was modified to operate on 370 ... rather than 360/67 which ran in a virtual machine. a copy of cms was then run under this cp67
real 360/67 running cp67-l (cambridge production cp67) in 370/67 virtual machine running cp67-h (provided 370 virtual machines) in 370 virtual machine running cp67-i in 370 virtual machine running cms

the "cp67-i" system was then used to test when the first engineering 370/145 with virtual memory became operational (turns out the hardware had a "bug" for that initial boot of cp67i). when 370/145 machines with virtual memory started shipping internally ... cp67sj (cp67i with the addition of drivers for 3330s & 2305) was regular product system until well after vm370 was available.

past post mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

past posts mentioning cp67-l, cp67-h, cp67-i
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#0 HONE was .. Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#31 determining memory size
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#27 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#50 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#59 intel's Vanderpool and virtualization in general
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#66 Virtual Machine Hardware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#17 DOS/360: Forty years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#18 Exceptions at basic block boundaries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#39 Behavior in undefined areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#50 virtual 360/67 support in cp67
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#27 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#38 Is VIO mandatory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#7 About TLB in lower-level caches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#5 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#21 Virtual Virtualizers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#26 Mainframe Limericks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#19 Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#1 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#45 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#49 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#3 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#20 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#12 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#16 when was MMU virtualization first considered practical?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#74 GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#23 GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#68 EXCP access methos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#69 EXCP access methos
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#36 SEs & History Lessons
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#38 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#49 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#1 PDP-10s and Unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#3 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#17 old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#51 Source code for s/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#63 Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#60 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#23 Item on TPF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#31 Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#74 CSC History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#69 Boeing Plant 2 ... End of an Era
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#72 IBM Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#80 TSO Profile NUM and PACK
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#27 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#34 Data Areas?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#62 Any cool anecdotes IBM 40yrs of VM

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IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 28 Jan 2013 08:21:07 -0800
k60ekgmc@US.IBM.COM (Kevin Minerley) writes:
Much zOS legacy doc was in a proprietary SGML (IBMIDDoc). Now a high percentage is in DITA to align with corporate direction.

BookMaster and Script/DCF are long gone (mostly) for over a decade. Some program directories and few of the ancient LPS show that lineage.

Script/DCF was divested to Ricoh a few years back


cms script was done at the science center in the mid-60s as port from MIT's CTSS RUNOFF. some past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

GML was invented at the science center in 1969 (letters chosen because they are first letter of last name of the inventors) and gml tag processing support added to cms script. past posts mentioning gml/sgml
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml

one of the earliest standard documents moved to cms script was principles of operation. there was something called the architecture "redbook" (because it was distributed in red 3-ring binders). principles of operation was a subset of the architecture "redbook" ... using cms script command-line options, either the full redbook was produced or just the principles of operation subset.

after a decade, gml morphs into iso standard sgml
https://web.archive.org/web/20231001185033/http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm

after another decade, sgml morphs into html at cern
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/

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More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date: 29 Jan 2013
Subject: More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#41 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence

Bank of America Foreclosure Reviews: Whistleblowers Reveal Extensive Borrower Harm and Orchestrated Coverup (Part I -- Executive Summary)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/bank-of-america-foreclosure-reviews-whistleblowers-provide-extensive-evidence-of-borrower-harm-and-orchestrated-coverup.html

Bank of America Foreclosure Reviews: Whistleblowers Reveal Extensive Borrower Harm and Orchestrated Coverup (Part II)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/37705.html

there was just a note that part3 is being delayed because of trying to turn massive amount of technical detail into narrative ... while waiting:

A Professor, a Whistleblower, and Ethics For Quants
https://web.archive.org/web/20130202014831/http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-01-28/professor-whistleblower-and-ethics-quants

and now

Bank of America Foreclosure Reviews: Why the Cover-Up Happened (Part IIIA)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/bank-of-america-foreclosure-reviews-new-part-iii.html
We found four basic problems:

The reviews showed that Bank of America engaged in certain types of abuses systematically

The review process itself lacked integrity due to Promontory delegating most of its work to Bank of America, and that work in turn depended on records that were often incomplete and unreliable. Chaotic implementation of the project itself only made a bad situation worse

Bank of America strove to suppress and minimize evidence of damage to borrowers

Promontory had multiple conflicts of interest and little to no relevant expertise


... snip ...

Bank of America Foreclosure Reviews: Why the Cover-Up Happened (Part IIIB)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/bank-of-america-foreclosure-reviews-why-the-cover-up-happened-part-iiib.html

Here we'll discuss:

"Garbage in-garbage out" problem of unintegrated, unreliable records

"Fire, aim, ready" approach to launching the tests


... snip ...

... and related to ethics for quants in the financial industry, there is the expose in "Inside Job" about prominent economists having been "captured" by wallstreet ... as discussed in "Economists and the Powerful: Convenient Theories, Distorted Facts, Ample Rewards":
https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Powerful-Convenient-Distorted-Economics-ebook/dp/B01B4X4KOS/

loc72-74:
Only through having been caught so blatantly with their noses in the troughs (e.g. the 2011 Academy Award -- winning documentary Inside Job) has the American Economic Association finally been forced to adopt an ethical code, and that code is weak and incomplete compared with other disciplines.

... another quote loc957-62:
The AEA was pushed into action by a damning research report into the systematic concealment of conflicts of interest by top financial economists and by a letter from three hundred economists who urged the association to come up with a code of ethics. Epstein and Carrick-Hagenbarth (2010) have shown that many highly influential financial economists in the US hold roles in the private financial sector, from serving on boards to owning the respective companies. Many of these have written on financial regulation in the media or in scholarly papers. Very rarely have they disclosed their affiliations to the financial industry in their writing or in their testimony in front of Congress, thus concealing a potential conflict of interest.

... snip ..

also references "Inside Job" ... BofA's purchase of Countrywide is big part of its mortgage exposure

Glenn Hubbard, Leading Academic and Mitt Romney Advisor, Took $1200 an Hour to Be Countrywide's Expert Witness (gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140504010711/http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/glenn-hubbard-leading-academic-and-mitt-romney-advisor-took-1200-an-hour-to-be-countrywides-expert-witness-20121220?print=true

and #1 on times list responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

Angelo Mozilo, Former Countrywide CEO, Claims He Doesn't Know What 'Verified Income' Is
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/angelo-mozilo-former-countrywide-ceo-claims-he-doesnt-know-what-verified-income-is-20121228

and of course rolling stone has more to say

Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan Apparently Can't Remember Anything
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/no-evidence-he-was-stoned-but-bank-of-america-ceo-brian-moynihan-apparently-doesn-t-remember-much-of-the-last-four-years-20121127

references

Bank of America: Too Crooked to Fail; The bank has defrauded everyone from investors and insurers to homeowners and the unemployed. So why does the government keep bailing it out?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bank-of-america-too-crooked-to-fail-20120314


https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

misc past posts mentioning #1 on times list:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#49 The men who crashed the world
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#77 Did You Hear the One About the Bankers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#95 Bank of America Fined $1 Billion for Mortgage Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#5 Too big not to fail
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#13 PC industry is heading for more change
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#28 REPEAL OF GLASS-STEAGALL DID NOT CAUSE THE FINANCIAL CRISIS - WHAT DO YOU THINK?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#67 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#76 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#58 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#47 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#0 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place

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mainframe "selling" points

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 29 Jan 2013 07:38:28 -0800
eamacneil@YAHOO.CA (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
colleges and universities. Looking at the short term.

You are SO right!

Shortly after I graduated from Waterloo, IBM stopped that programme; shortly after that the University of Waterloo dropped COBOL as a requirement for co-op students.

Bingo! Bango! Bongo! The financial sector (Ontario & Toronto, at least) went elsewhere for co-op, or stopped their programmes, completely.

Now, University of Waterloo computer graduates are PC weinies, web-masters, and gamers.

University of Waterloo's defence?

"We are here to teach. Not to prepare future employees."

BS! I went to Waterloo to become employable with the best credentials available in the 1970's & 80's.

Sorry for the topic drift, but I do think it all stemmed from IBM dropping their generosity.


in the 60s, IBM gave enormous educational discounts ... all that appeared to have greatly curtailed with gov. litigation and the 23jun69 "unbundling" announcement (also started to charge for application software, SE services, other changes) ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

then about the time various gov. sanctions expired in the early 80s, IBM "ACIS" was formed ... which was provided with significant amount of money for educational institutions. MIT Project Athena was jointly funded by DEC & IBM ... each providing $25M ... CMU got $50M ... I think ACIS initially got $300M for disbursement ... and when that was gone, they got more. I don't know of any ACIS money that was used for mainframes.

As an example, CMU did unix "work-alike" MACH ... which was leveraged by Jobs at NeXT for its operating system, and became basis for MAC operating system replacement when Jobs returns to Apple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28kernel%29

Kerberos was done in Project Athena. At the time, we are asked to do periodic corporate visit to Project Athena to review their projects. I remember being there the week cross-domain protocol was being worked out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_%28protocol%29

A decade ago, a small Kerberos service company in Seattle area ... at the time, CEO was former head of IBM mainframe ... does a contract with Microsoft to integrate Kerberos into Windows as its authentication mechanism. We are working for a large financial services company and were periodically on-site at the company for various reasons.

indirect reference in this article (although some is little garbled)
https://web.archive.org/web/20190524015712/http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/stoprun/Stop-Run/Making-History/

BITNET (where this ibm-main mailing list originated) & its sibling in Europe (EARN) was funded by IBM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

note above is slightly garbled with respect to NJE & RSCS. RSCS was originally done at the science center ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

some past posts about BITNET/EARN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

RSCS/VNET was used for the internal network. JES2 with NJI/NJE had some nodes on the internal network (much of the code was from HASP that had source code identifier TUCC ... installation where it originated). The RSCS had layered design (which JES didn't) and RSCS could do drivers (like NJE) for other infrastructures. NJE used spare entries in the 255 psuedo-device table for network definitition ... (typically around 150 entries). Internal network was quickly greater than 255 nodes ... and NJE would trash traffic where it didn't have entry for either the origin or the destination. As a result JES2 systems were limited to boundary network nodes. Also NJE design was that traffic between JES2 systems at different release levels ... had tendancy to crash JES2 and their respective MVS systems. As a result, a library of RSCS NJE drivers appeared early that could translate JES2 formats into whatever was acceptable by the JES2 on the other end.

JES2 eventually got around shipping support for 999 nodes ... but it was after the internal network had exceeded 1000 nodes. misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

eventually the company stopped shipping the RSCS native drivers to customers ... just the NJE drivers ... although the native RSCS continued to be used internal ... in part because they were much more efficient and had higher throughput.

person at the science center responsible for RSCS & internal network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

from above:
Meanwhile, in the fall of 1974, IBM announced System Network Architecture (SNA) as its official communications strategy. SNA was incompatible with VNET and with many of the networking ideas being developed for what would be called the Internet, particularly with TCP/IP. Hendricks and others lobbied vigorously within IBM for a change in direction, but were rebuffed.

In 1976, MIT Professor Jerry Saltzer accompanied Hendricks to DARPA, where Henricks described his innovations to the principal scientist, Dr. Vinton P. Cerf. From that point on, Vint and other DARPA scientists adopted Hendricks' connectionless approach. The result developed into the Internet as we know it today.


... snip ...

note that tcp/ip is the technology basis for the modern internet, NSFNET backbone was the operational basis for the modern internet, and CIX was the business basis for the modern internet. Some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet

NSFNET backbone originally started out to be interconnection of the NSF supercomputer centers and we were to get $20M to do it. Congress cuts the budget and various other things happen and it gets reformed and an RFP is released. Internal politics get in the way and prevents us from bidding. The director of NSF tries to help and writes a letter to the company 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO), ... but that just aggravates the internal politics (references to things like what we already had running is at least five years ahead of all bid responses doesn't help). misc. old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

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mainframe "selling" points

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 29 Jan 2013 09:24:24 -0800
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
I don't know of any ACIS money that was used for mainframes.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe "selling" points

modulo the references to funding bitnet ... which was mainframe technology ... similar to what was used for the internal network.

as referenced in edson's wiki article there was enormous resistance by the sna/communication organisation to anything that wasn't sna (including opposing tcp/ip use inside the company).

the sna/communication organization in the late 80s spread a lot of mis-information as part of moving the internal network to sna (when it would have been enormously more efficient and less expensive to move to tcp/ip). various old internal network related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

the sna/communication organization was also spreading mis-information as sna/vtam applicable to the NSFNET backbone ... as well as blocking us doing the NSFNET backbone. Somebody in their organization collected a lot of the misinformation communication and forwarded it ... small amount reproduced here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109

and some other mis-information and/or related
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306

that also possibly contributed to the original mainframe tcp/ip product being exceedingly inefficient (about 44kbyte/sec thruput using 3090 processor). I did the enhancements to the product to support RFC1044 and in some throughput tests at cray research got sustained channel throughput between cray and 4341 ... using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed) ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

and as I've periodically referred in the past, this was also in the period when a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at the internal, annual, world-wide communication group conference and opened with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. the issue was that the communication group had stranglehold on datacenters (strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls, trying to preserve their terminal emulation install base and fight off client/server and distributed computing). The disk division was starting to see the effects of data fleeing the datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms with dropoff in disk sales. The disk division had come up with several products to correct the situation ... but they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group.

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mainframe "selling" points

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: mainframe "selling" points
To: <ibm-main@bama.ua.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:52:41 -0500
steve@TRAINERSFRIEND.COM (Steve Comstock) writes:
IBM blew it 20-30 years ago when they stopped being generous to colleges and universities. Looking at the short term.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe "selling" points
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#75 mainframe "selling" points

20yrs ago IBM had gone into the red (significantly accelerated by stranglehold that the communication group had on datacenters). corporate executives had been preping the company for breakup ... recent references to old time article "baby blues" ... restructuring as part of preparation for breakup
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#61 What is holding back cloud adoption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#63 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More

the board then brings in Gerstner to resurrect the company and for a complete make over ... other recent posts mentioning Gerstner
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#34 Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#72 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#74 Why So Many Formerly Successful Companies Are Failing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#82 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#87 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#4 Think You Know The Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#12 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#16 Hierarchy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#17 Hierarchy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#35 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#54 How will mainframers retiring be different from Y2K?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#55 The Invention of Email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#65 What are your experiences with Amdahl Computers and Plug-Compatibles?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#16 Think You Know The Mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#25 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#69 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#9 Sandy Weill's About-Face on Big Banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#15 Microsoft's Downfall: Inside the Executive E-mails and Cannibalistic Culture That Felled a Tech Giant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#19 SnOODAn: Boyd, Snowden, and Resilience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#21 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#31 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#34 History--punched card transmission over telegraph lines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#46 Slackware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#49 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#65 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#70 END OF FILE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#20 X86 server
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#27 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#63 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#69 Cultural attitudes towards failure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#24 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#58 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#1 STOP PRESS! An Auditor has been brought to task for a failed bank!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#8 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#20 General Mills computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#14 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#32 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Obscurity or is it Security by Design?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#60 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#61 What is holding back cloud adoption?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees

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OT: but hopefully interesting - Million core supercomputer

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: OT: but hopefully interesting - Million core supercomputer
To: <ibm-main@bama.ua.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:06:31 -0500
mpost@SUSE.COM (Mark Post) writes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Sequoia


long ago precursor ... working both with LLNL and other national labs as well a commercial RDBMS regarding cluster scale-up ... old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
and old reference to commercial RDBMS cluster scale-up meeting the first part of jan92
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
as part of our HA/CMP product (some past posts)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

senior vp retires oct91, followed by audit of several products he sponsored including supercomputer effort, part of the result is scouring the company for technology to use, including corporate technology conference middle of jan92. by the end of jan92 (possibly within hrs of the last referenced email in above), cluster scale-up is transferred and we are told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors (significantly contributes to motivation deciding to leave). a couple weeks later there is supercomputer announcement (17feb1992 press reference ... but no commercial; numeric intensive & scientific ONLY)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
later that spring another press item that clusters had taken the company completely by surprise (11May1992 press reference):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

i've mentioned before having worked with LLNL off&on dating back to benchmarks when they were looking at large numbers of 4341s in compute farm in the late 70s ... some old 4341 email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

also later in 1988, I'm asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff ... that eventually morphs into fibre channel standard (FCS). Some pok channel engineers then become involved and layer protocol on top that severely restricts native/underlying FCS thruput ... that eventually morphs into FICON. some recent ficon posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#10 From build to buy: American Airlines changes modernization course midflight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#40 Searching for storage (DASD) alternatives

for other topic drift ... past posts about original RDBMS/SQL implementation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

it and derivatives were mainframe only. In the time of ha/cmp, some of the other rdbms vendors had "portable" implementations for unix, vax/cluster and other platforms. IBM is just starting on its implementation for OS/2 (but isn't available for other platforms or with cluster support until much later). To aid in easing deploying vax/cluster support on unix platforms, I work on global lock manager that emulates the vax/cluster's API. However, the various vendors have list of dozen or so things done wrong in vax/cluster ... which are easy to correct since I get to start from scratch. The mainframe DB2 folks complain that if I'm allowed to continue, I'll be at least five yrs ahead of them (which presumably contributes to cluster scale-up being transferred and being told couldn't work on anything with more than four processors).

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