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2011 Newsgroup Postings (09/21 - 10/11)

computer bootlaces
What is IBM culture?
computer bootlaces
computer bootlaces
UAV vis-a-vis F35
computer bootlaces
What is IBM culture?
Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
What is IBM culture?
computer bootlaces: First SF?
Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
PKI "fixes" that don't fix PKI
Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
computer bootlaces: First SF?
computer bootlaces
Any candidates for best acronyms?
Two new (internal network related) wiki entries
What is IBM culture?
computer bootlaces
computer bootlaces
Million Corporation march on Washington
Supervisory Processors
Supervisory Processors
Benefits of Online Banking
Supervisory Processors
computer bootlaces
Supervisory Processors
"Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
Supervisory Processors
It's Cool To Be Clever
CMS load module format
computer bootlaces
computer bootlaces
Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
CMS load module format
How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
CMS load module format
What is IBM culture?
ISBNs
ISBNs
ISBNs
CMS load module format
CMS load module format
computer bootlaces
CMS load module format
What is IBM culture?
From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
ISBNs
CMS load module format
ISBNs
CMS load module format
Chinese researchers say early climate changes responsible for human crisis
ISBNs
Any candidates for best acronyms?
Any candidates for best acronyms?
Steve Jobs passed away
ISBNs
computer bootlaces
From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
Can anyone offer some insight
Goodbye, OODA-Loop
NeXT, give Steve a little credit for the Web
Bernanke Hearings
"Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
computer bootlaces
Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
Goodbye, OODA-Loop
Transitioning Highly Available Applications to System z
Interesting Article on Big Iron
Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:49:47 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
responsible for GLBA & repeal of Glass-Steagall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act

It initially passed along party lines ... but folklore was that president was going to veto ... they then went back and added other features so that it passed nearly unanimously (making it veto proof).


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces

... part of the reason behind the references to congress being the most corrupt institution on earth ... also possibly much of discord and conflict in congress is purely Kabuki theater (1603-1629):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki

also the show seems to help occupy a lot of the population's attention (akin to the roman games) also the apparent battles seems to help motivate the flow of money

however, the big deal in congress appears related to special interest tax loopholes ... news shows & articles will explicitly mention that prized plum for congress being member of tax committees (after the most recent election, there were news items about which new members would get appointed to tax committees ... since that would do the most for their financial wealth; party leadership dolling out favored positions on tax committees).

past posts in this series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#68 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 21 Sep, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?

as I mentioned before, Watson's wild ducks were employees ... after the culture shift that started with the failure of Future System ... there was line added "as long as they fly in formation". The recent (supposedly Watson) "wild duck" video (part of 100yr celebration) turns out not to have been about employees but about customers (possibly accept money from any kind of customer ... but long gone for employees).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#30 IBM Centennial Film: Wild Ducks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#33 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm

There are studies about brain damage and left/right hemisphere .... part of the sense of reality/self is in one hemisphere ... but will start hallucinating if sensory input suffers damage from the other hemisphere ... it starts to wander from reality if it starts loosing sensory input.

I had sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM ... part of Organic Design for Command and Control was appropriate inputs acting as sanity check for upper executives, there having been epidemic of large corporate bureaucracies insulated top executives from what is really going on. This comes up in book that covers failure of FS and Opel/Akers changing culture to sycophancy and make no waves. misc. past posts mentioning FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

misc. Boyd references (posts & URLs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:08:39 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
I heard on the radio (source has be 98% suspect) that the TARP debt is going to be forgiven; is this true?

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#68 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces

most of the TARP loans to too-big-to-fail have been paid back (possibly helped by what they were clearing from FED free money used to buy treasuries ... and TARP loans carried caps on executive bonuses) ... there is possibly open question about auto industry and AIG

when they decided almost immediately for TARP that they would "loan", instead of buying toxic assets ... one of the biggest recipients was AIG. mentions AIG was $150B (in 2008):
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/business/worldbusiness/11iht-11insure.17704269.html
possibly as much as $182.5B:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_International_Group

Various books & articles make a big deal out of AIG almost done negotiations to pay 60cents on the dollar for CDS. Secretary then steps in and says that for AIG to pay less than 100cents on the dollar was illegal and it had to take (biggest chunk of) TARP loans in order to pay 100cents on the dollar (and "forced" AIG to sign legal document giving up right to sue anybody they were paying off). The issue in the books and articles was major recipient of AIG CDS payments (at 100cents on the dollar) was Goldman ... which the secretary had previously been chairman of.

There was joke in the last decade that US Treasury bldg was Goldman's branch office in washington. wiki reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Paulson

TARP ($700B, major portion to AIG, instead of buying toxic assts)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

somewhat related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIG_bonus_payments_controversy

misc. past posts about Goldman and/or AIG
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#13 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#32 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#59 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#62 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#22 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#24 To: Graymouse -- Ireland and the EU, What in the H... is all this about?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#13 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#36 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#41 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#19 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#51 Obama, ACORN, subprimes (Re: Spiders)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#61 The vanishing CEO bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#32 How Should The Government Spend The $700 Billion?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#33 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#41 Executive pay: time for a trim?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#70 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#63 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#80 Are reckless risks a natural fallout of "excessive" executive compensation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#41 The subject is authoritarian tendencies in corporate management, and how they are related to political culture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#45 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#57 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#59 As bonuses...why breed greed, when others are in dire need?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#4 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#10 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#9 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#11 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#16 The Formula That Killed Wall Street
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#18 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#22 Is it time to put banking executives on trial?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#30 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#40 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#64 Should AIG executives be allowed to keep the bonuses they were contractually obligated to be paid?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#74 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#17 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#8 Revolution Money raises $42m
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#3 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#8 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#74 Administration calls for financial system overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#36 Average Comp This Year At Top Firm Estimated At $700,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#71 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#75 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#81 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#2 Big Bonuses At Goldman Should Be Applauded, Not Criticized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#6 FBI arrests programmer for stolen software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#44 Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#48 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#2 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#35 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#46 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#45 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#81 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#51 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#11 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#13 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#15 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#19 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#26 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#28 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#56 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#52 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#36 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#37 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#62 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#19 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#63 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#27 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#32 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#52 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#68 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#4 Goldman Sachs -- Post SEC complaint. What's next?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#47 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#79 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#6 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#48 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#60 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#68 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#69 Moody's hints at move that could be catastrophic for US debt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#40 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#55 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#21 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#64 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#82 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#90 CFTC Limits on Commodity Speculation May Wait Until Early 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#3 CFTC Limits on Commodity Speculation May Wait Until Early 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#17 Hey all you Old Geeks (and younger ones too), with gas heading towards $6.00/gal, remote support, satellite offices and home office will become more cost effective
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#40 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#49 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#24 rating agencies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#40 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#5 AIG's Bank Of America Suit Puts Trashy Paper On Display
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#46 Sand in Machine Makes a Stable Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#50 The real reason IBM didn't want to dump more money into Blue Waters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#89 The Grand Message in the Conceptual Spiral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#21 HOLLOW STATES and a CRISIS OF CAPITALISM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#39 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#62 The true cost of 9/11: Trillions and trillions wasted on wars, a fiscal catastrophe, and a weaker America

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:48:43 -0400
Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> writes:
Paved roads are not a pre-requisite for carts, see parts of Africa today, for example. Many farm tracks in Britain have never been paved, even now, and the "wain" as opposed to the "wagon" can *not* be used on paved surfaces having no steering. (I grew up in the country and have experienced these things!)

evidence some places out west where there are still deep ruts from "wagon trains".
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnletters/usa-west.htm

this has
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Trail
image of trail ruts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trail_ruts_State_Hist_site_Wyoming.jpg

paved was frequency, speed, importance, value

old posts about learning to drive when i was eight ... I was eleven before I was allowed to drive on (paved) highway:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#59 wrt code first, document later
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#27 Secure you PC or get kicked off the net?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#41 If there had been no MS-DOS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#19 Working while young
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#39 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#31 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#19 Magnetic tape storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#26 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#44 Just wondering what precisely happened to this newsgroup
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#60 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#13 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)

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UAV vis-a-vis F35

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 21 Sep, 2011
Subject: UAV vis-a-vis F35
Blog: Boyd Strategy
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#63 UAV vis-a-vis F35
and
http://lnkd.in/Q3hJ5G

recent military article:

A future for drones: Automated killing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/national-security/a-future-for-drones-automated-killing/2011/09/15/gIQAVy9mgK_print.html

... and

Safety first on UAVs
http://www.naval-technology.com/features/feature127594/
"UAVs are a big step forward in combat, surveillance and humanitarian aid missions, although they won't replace manned aircraft," he adds.

... snip ...

.... some discussion was that they won't replace all manned aircraft ... above is somewhat ambiguous possibly implying replacing no manned aircraft

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computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:25:02 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
however, the big deal in congress appears related to special interest tax loopholes ... news shows & articles will explicitly mention that prized plum for congress being member of tax committees (after the most recent election, there were news items about which new members would get appointed to tax committees ... since that would do the most for their financial wealth; party leadership dolling out favored positions on tax committees).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#0 computer bootlaces

tv business news late yesterday was house majority leader was starting to threaten rogue party members with loss of prime committee memberships if they didn't start to toe the line (see what is really important to them, their public positions or the flow of special interest money, of course all this is probably also part of the Kabuki theater).

past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#68 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 22 Sep, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?

TSS/360 was rumored to have 1200 people at time when cp67 had 12 .... it was start of formulating large organizations getting into trouble and having enormous added resources ... starting to simulate blackhole (the analogy was missing something until I ran across paper about blackholes "evaporate") and of course, later applied to FS. After TSS/360 was canceled and group reduced to 20 or so ... TSS/370 became much more refined product.

At about the time SNA started (could be considered carrying through on major motivation for FS ... dealing with clone controller vendors), my wife was co-author of "peer-to-peer" networking architecture (AWP39). SNA forces were constantly working to kill off all internal competition. Later when my wife was con'ed into moving to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture (mainframe for cluster) ... she was in constant battles with SNA org over mandates for using SNA for loosely-coupled coordination ... there would be temporary truces that she could use anything she wanted but SNA "owned" everything that cross the datacenter walls. She didn't remain long, in part because of the ongoing battles with SNA ... and because there "Peer-Coupled Shared Data" architecture saw little uptake (except for IMS hotstandby) until SYSPLEX. misc. past posts mentioning Peer-Coupled Shared Data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

In the late 80s, a senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at the annual, worldwide internal communication group conference and opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group (SNA) had stranglehold on the datacenter and they were seeing big upswing in data fleeing to more distributed computing friendly platforms. They had come up with a number of products to address the problems .... but the communication group would constantly veto since they "owned everything that crossed the datacenter walls". misc. past posts mentioning communication group protecting install base
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#emulation

The technology basis for the modern internet is TCP/IP, the operational basis for the modern internet was the NSFNET backbone, and the business basis for the modern internet was CIX. I had been working with the director of NSF on what would become NSFNET backbone ... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

When the NSFNET backbone RFP came out, internal politics prevented bidding. Director of NSF attempted to help by writing the company a letter 3Apr1986, NSF Director to IBM Chief Scientist and IBM Senior VP and director of Research, copying IBM CEO) ... and backing of several federal agencies ... along with references to what I already had running was at least five years ahead of all bid submissions ... which just made the internal politics worse.

misc. past posts mentioning internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:08:12 -0400
David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@dd-b.net> writes:
As I understand it, Europe was into chipped cards because they didn't have a good enough phone infrastructure to do the central-database-query we started using fairly early. I heard many horror stories in the 60s and even later about how long it took to get a new phone installed in various European countries (the places we lived came with phones already, since they were short-term sub-leases, so it's not first-hand experience).

I have had considerable amusement reading (and hearing) about some of the clever attacks on chipped cards, including the infrared temperature monitoring to figure out what it was doing.


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#72 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

in the US there was a lot of "value-added-networks" (including the online payment transaction network) predating the internet ... the internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85 or early '86.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

one of the differences between internal network (and arpanet/internet) was all links that left corporate premises required encryption (most of the period hardware link encryptors) ... which was sometimes a big challenge when corporate links crossed national boundaries. In the mid-80s, there was claim that the internal network had over half of all (hardware) link encryptors in the world.

by the mid-90s, there was starting to be marked change in national telco availability around the world as well as growing ubiquitous of the internet was making the old value-added-networks (VANs) obsolete (including the payment networks).

a couple issues with the "old" chipcards ... dating from the 80s when they were supposedly solving the lack of telco/online availability in many parts of the world ... was that they had lots of vulnerabilities and shortcomings. One such was that EEPROM had very limited lifetime write-cycles. Many of the european "patents" from the period was optimizing/minimizing the number of actual EEPROM writes needed per transactions. Another was that they had abysmal random number genation which resulted in all sorts of encryption related work-arounds.

There was also differential power analysis and pealing protective layers and observing operation with scanning electron microscope.

One of the major "stored-value" european (offline) chipcards was looking at making entry into the US in the mid-90s. We were asked to architect, design, size and cost the backend dataprocessing infrastructure to support such an entry into the US market (periodically values had to be loaded and/or transferred between cards and banking infrastructure). As part of costing ... I also looked at where the value structure was ... it turns out there was no interest paid on value in the cards and all that "float" was going to the master/top organization. European central banks later decreed that these organizations could retain the float for initial years of operation (as part of underwriting startup costs) but then would be required to start paying interest on the value in the cards. After that nearly all the european "stored-value" chipcard programs disappeared (aka while they were using the justification about telco problems ... by the 90s, it was mostly obfuscation because the real motivation was that the operators were retaining the float).

As an aside, Los Gatos VLSI lab did pioneering work using scanning electron microscope for chip analysis (as part of chip "debugging"). Misc. past posts about having wing of offices and labs at the Los Gatos VLSI lab:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#16 Computer of the century
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#57 South San Jose (was Tysons Corner, Virginia)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#65 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#3 Chip Emulators - was How does a chip get designed?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#55 Multics hardware (was Re: "Soul of a New Machine" Computer?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#45 Wanted: the SOUNDS of classic computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#19 Beyond 8+3
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#45 ibm time machine in new york times?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#52 Question about Unix "heritage"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#3 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#16 When nerds were nerds
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#25 More complex operations now a better choice?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#30 Moribund TSO/E
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#42 Moribund TSO/E
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#7 The Network Data Model, foundation for Relational Model
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#42 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#16 US fiscal policy (Was: Bob Bemer, Computer Pioneer,Father of ASCII,Invento
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#18 FW: Looking for Disk Calc program/Exec
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#30 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#25 CKD Disks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#25 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#14 something like a CTC on a PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#6 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#0 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#1 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#2 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#20 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#21 IBM up for grabs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave application--early data communications
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#41 Tek 4010, info and prices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#1 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#5 Materiel and graft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#42 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#9 Was FORTRAN buggy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#21 50th Anniversary of invention of disk drives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#7 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#40 New attacks on the financial PIN processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#9 Plurals and language confusion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#14 IBM ATM machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#10 moving on
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#27 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#25 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#20 Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#27 modern paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#41 Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#61 Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#14 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#24 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#39 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#47 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#53 Drums: Memory or Peripheral?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#54 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#61 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#22 What if phone company had developed Internet?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#67 1401 simulator for OS/360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#48 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#7 ATMs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#50 Running REXX program in a batch job
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#16 Fazing out x86
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#52 China's Godson-2 processor takes center stage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#68 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#77 CLIs and GUIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#51 Baudot code direct to computers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#25 Web Security hasn't moved since 1995
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#6 ATMs At Risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#51 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#81 1401's in high schools?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#19 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#44 Book on Poughkeepsie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#55 Book on Poughkeepsie
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#60 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#75 IBM's 96 column punch card
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#1 Is it possible to have an alternative payment system without riding on the Card Network platforms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#48 Replace the current antiquated credit card system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#75 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#36 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#46 SNA: conflicting opinions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#52 Online banking: Which bank is the most secure?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#63 What happened to computer architecture (and comp.arch?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#65 European Banks Warned: Brace for Rise in Cash Machine Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#67 European Banks Warned: Brace for Rise in Cash Machine Fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#74 ATMs by the Numbers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#17 toolsrun
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#78 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#15 Small Server Mob Advantage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#29 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#58 watches
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#7 "Unhackable" Infineon Chip Physically Cracked - PCWorld
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#21 Credit card data security: Who's responsible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#11 Crazed idea: SDSF for z/Linux
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#33 SHAREWARE at Its Finest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#27 Should the USA Implement EMV?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#61 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#83 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#76 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#12 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#3 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#74 CSC History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#13 Is the ATM still the banking industry's single greatest innovation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#52 Basic question about CPU instructions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#54 PL/I vs. Pascal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#85 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#40 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#46 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#50 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#51 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#2 Fun with ATM Skimmers, Part III
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#11 Credit cards with a proximity wifi chip can be as safe as walking around with your credit card number on a poster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#54 Credit cards with a proximity wifi chip can be as safe as walking around with your credit card number on a poster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#6 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#69 Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#31 computer bootlaces

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 22 Sep, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?

This goes into the clone controller competition being major motivation for FS project (as well as large number of other things about IBM):
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm
https://www.ecole.org/en/session/49-the-rise-and-fall-of-ibm

misc. past posts mentioning Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

When cp67 was delivered to univ., it had 2741 & 1052 terminal support, but didn't support TTY/ascii. The univ. had a number of TTY terminals, so I made the modifications to cp67 to support ascii. One of the basic part of cp67 terminal support was automatic terminal type identification ... I extended it to include TTY (played various games with controller "SAD" command that could dynamically change the line-scanner that was used with each port). It worked with leased-lines, but when I tried to extend it for a common dial-up pool ("hunt" group) with single number for all terminals ... it broke. The problem was while it was possible to change the line-scanner for each port, the line-speed was hardwired to each port.

Somewhat as a result, the univ. started a clone controller project (that would support dynamic line-speed and dynamic terminal-type), reverse engineer channel interface, build channel adapter board for Interdata/3 and program the Interdata/3 to emulate terminal controller. Later four of us were written up as being responsible (for some part of) clone controller business. The vendor picked and was marketing the implementation, continued after perkin/elmer bought interdata ... I even ran across one of the boxes still handling majority of east-coast dial-up point-of-sale terminal traffic in the late 90s.

misc. past posts mentioning clone controllers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#360pcm

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computer bootlaces: First SF?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces: First SF?
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:03:00 -0400
throopw@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) writes:
Pretty much, yes. I'm using the question to probe just what might be meant by "prohibited by physics", and just why FTL is held not to be. Is symbolic causation and/or mystic mental powers prohibited? Is the copenhagen interpretation?

As for me, I'd say FTL isn't "prohibited" in the purely and strictly abstract, to exactly and precisely the same extent that time travel doesn't. But there are some constraints put on it, and most fictional depictions of FTL do pretty much stomp all over these constraints, by strongly implying that physics isn't lorentz invariant.

Also, popular versions of both FTL and time travel, as depicted, tend to involve violations of conservation of energy and momentum. Not always, but very frequently.

So all in all, "does the story have FTL" is a very good proxy for the question "does the story violate physics", imo.


see lots of news item today from cern
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484
http://news.yahoo.com/cern-claims-faster-light-particle-measured-180644818.html
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-09-cern-faster-than-light-particle.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/cern-claims-faster-light-particle-measured-14582841
http://motls.blogspot.com/2011/09/italian-out-of-tune-superluminal.html

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Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:03:33 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
in the US there was a lot of "value-added-networks" (including the online payment transaction network) predating the internet ... the internal network was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85 or early '86.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#7 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

wiki related to internal network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

which references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

from above:
In 1976, MIT Professor Jerry Saltzer accompanied Hendricks to DARPA, where Henricks described his innovations to the principal scientist, Dr. Vinton P. Cerf. From that point on, Vint and other DARPA scientists adopted Hendricks connectionless approach. The result developed into the Internet as we know it today.[6]

... snip ...

and:
6. ^ The story of this visit is related by Leanne Jones in her children's book, "It's Cool To Be Clever." Jones obtained permission from both Cerf and Saltzer to use their names in her book. Both received copies of the printed text.

... snip ...

note that the next reference:
7. ^ Lynn Wheeler, formerly of the IBM Cambridge Scientific Center, maintains an online archive of contemporaneous documents. These numbers, which changed rapidly, are stored at
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 verified on 2011-09-19


... snip ...

was 2006 post in a.f.c.

misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

for another story (reproduced from Melinda's history):
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

and also from wiki (one of the further reading items):
Leanne Jones, "It's Cool To Be Clever, The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet," Agio Publishing House, 151 Howe St., Victoria Canada V8V 4K5, 2011-07-27 An illustrated chapter book of interest to all ages, unpaged. ISBN 978-1-897435-63-2. An enhanced ebook app based on this story, containing extensive background material on Hendricks and his innovations, is under development.

... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning BITNET (&/or EARN in Europe)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

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PKI "fixes" that don't fix PKI

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: PKI "fixes" that don't fix PKI
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011
When SET first released specification ... I did a PKI-op profile and business profile. I then got a good friend that was playing with BSAFE library (and tweaked it to run four times faster) to benchmark the SET PKI-op profile on a number of platforms ... which I reported back to the SET committee (the technology vendors besides m'card & visa). The response from the SET committee was that it was 100 times too slow (if any of the technology vendors members had ever done anything, they should have said it was four times too fast). Six months later when the first SET pilots were running ... my numbers were within a couple percent of actual (the BSAFE speedups having been returned to RSA). I pointed out that if SET were to ever be deployed for real payment transactions approaching production load of thousands per second ... that enormous number of processors would be required (approaching modern day mega-datacenters).

besides mastercard & visa members, there was globeset, sun, certco, gte, ibm, microsoft, netscape, rsa, saic, spyrus, terisa, openmarket, verisign, and verifone. SET was something of merging independent projects that had been going by various different parties

the 100 times "too slow" (executing PKI ops) was separate from appending (even abbreviated relying-party-only) digital certificate was 100 times payload size bloat for typical payment transaction.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat

IBM & DEC equally funded project athena and each had asst. director (IBM asst director was long time friend that I had worked with for many years). I was one of the IBM'ers that would periodically review project athena efforts. One week we were there, we sat through sessions as cross-domain Kerberos was being worked out. Much later, I sat through presentation of early SAML deployment (for coalition forces) ... which included all the message flows. I pointed out that they appeared to be identical to Kerberos cross-domain message flows ... except with SAML formated messages. Their CTO eventually commented that there was actually very limited ways to implement such message flows.

I had left IBM in early 90s over a supercomputer project I was working on being transferred to a different group and then being told I couldn't work on anything with more than four processors (it was announced as IBM's supercomputer 3weeks after transfer ... but for numerical intensive only, no commercial workloads). I was doing consulting ... and two of the people that I had been working with at Oracle (on getting parallel oracle to run on the machine) had also left and were at small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server" (the startup had also invented something called "SSL"). old post about jan92 meeting in ellison's conference room, including two of the people that show up later at small client/server start
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
old email related to the cluster scale-up work (before it was transferred)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

We were brought in because they wanted to do payment transactions on the server. As part of the effort, I had mandated the implementation of mutual authentication (for the interface between the webserver and payment gateway, I had final authority on everything associated with the payment gateway) ... I also had to do audits & business reviews of all the major operations that would be selling SSL digital certificates. misc. past posts mentioning ssl digital certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts
misc. past posts mentioning payment gateway work
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

misc. past posts mentioning BSAFE library and/or SET profile
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#theory Security breach raises questions about Internet shopping
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#54 Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#9 the limits of crypto and authentication
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#0 Flaw in RFID-enabled passports (part 2?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#20 307 digit number factored
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#27 Security Issues of using Internet Banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#64 1teraflops cell processor possible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#8 The mid-seventies SHARE survey
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#47 Maximum RAM and ROM for smartcards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#34 How much RAM is 64K (36-bit) words of Core Memory?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#19 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#12 Mainframe near history (IBM 3380 and 3880 docs)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#37 MAC and SSL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#51 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#49 IBM mainframe history, was Floating-point myths
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#42 VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#64 An interesting take on Verified by Visa Policy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#23 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#77 More named/shared systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#60 The satate of software
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#34 Google Begins Fixing Usenet Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#59 A mighty fortress is our PKI
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#3 Five Theses on Security Protocols
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#56 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#74 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#22 64 bit mode disabled
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#76 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#58 RISCversus CISC

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Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:00:10 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Leanne Jones, "It's Cool To Be Clever, The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet," Agio Publishing House, 151 Howe St., Victoria Canada V8V 4K5, 2011-07-27 An illustrated chapter book of interest to all ages, unpaged. ISBN 978-1-897435-63-2. An enhanced ebook app based on this story, containing extensive background material on Hendricks and his innovations, is under development.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#7 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#10 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

amazon URL
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630

some old vnet (internal network) related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

as i've mentioned various times in the past ... lots of archived stuff from days at the science center were lost ... on replicated tapes in the almaden tape library ... and almaden had period with operational problems where random tapes were being mounted as scratch ... posts this year referencing almaden operational problems:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#39 1971PerformanceStudies - Typical OS/MFT 40/50/65s analysed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#89 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#3 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#4 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#80 TSO Profile NUM and PACK
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#29 Congratulations, where was my invite?

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computer bootlaces: First SF?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces: First SF?
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:57:56 -0400
Peter Moylan <invalid@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> writes:
Someone once said that when Isaac Asimov saw the film, he couldn't get over the fact that HAL had broken the First Law.

then there was HAL

HAL Computer Systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Computer_Systems

one of the founders also has his own airport (take off on hell or high water)
http://www.aircraftguru.com/airports/airports.php?state=CALIFORNIA&city=ZENIA&airportid=45CL

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computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:33:42 -0400
Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
Let me know when you find a bank that's guaranteed crook-free.

recent posts mentioning that S&L crisis started when the regulators were directed to remove almost all oversight
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#21 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#24 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#7 Innovation and iconoclasm

including allowing lots of people to come in & buy a S&L and then start lending themselves money (people buying S&Ls for their own personal piggy bank) ... and then write-off the loans as "bad".

the community & regional banks were pretty much free of the cantagion that the too-big-to-fail got involved in (again with nearly all oversight having been removed), however with the general economic downturn ... some number (community & regional) became collateral damage.

post from last year mentioning lots of news articles about too-big-to-fail were involved laundering money for the drug cartels, but with the feds doing everything possible to keep them operating, they weren't going to let money laundering get in the way:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#24 Little-Noted, Prepaid Rules Would Cover Non-Banks As Wells As Banks
other more recent posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#58 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?

past posts mentioning regional banks:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#65 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#25 How do group members think the US payments business will evolve over the next 3 years?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#59 We Can't Subsidize the Banks Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#52 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#21 Fake debate: The Senate will not vote on big banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#43 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#14 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#39 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces

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Any candidates for best acronyms?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 23 Sep, 2011
Subject: Any candidates for best acronyms?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#55 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#60 Any candidates for best acronyms?

The Greater IBM Social Network Wiki; IBM Acronyms (current and past)
http://greateribm.wikia.com/wiki/IBM_Acronyms_%28current_and_past%29

Acronym and initialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym_and_initialism

from above:
POWER stands for "Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC", in which (RISC stands for Reduced Instruction Set Computing)

... snip ...

CP67/CMS was control program 67 (i.e. for 360/67, had originally started as cp40/cms using modified 360/40 with virtual memory hardware added) and cambridge monitor system. misc. posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

for morph from cp67/cms to vm370/cms ... cms was rebranded to conversational monitor system

Acronym list
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/webservers/httpservers/doc/v1326/manual/ibm/9acro.htm

from above:
BHAPI: BSAFE Hardware API OID: Object ID SIDD: session ID cache daemon

... snip ...

Possible IBM acronyms:
http://www.ahajokes.com/com028.html

Radio Acronyms
http://www.ominous-valve.com/acronyms.txt

from above:
Cygnus Cygnus, Your Gnu Support (nested recursion; see Gnu) GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program, a nested acronym GTK GIMP Tool Kit, a deeply nested acronym gnu Gnu's Not Unix, a freeware op-system (recursive acronym

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nested acronym HASP ... Houston Automatic Spooling Priority (program)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Automatic_Spooling_Priority

misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

post mentioning some history about Ludlow borrowing CCWTRANS from cp67 as part of adding virtual memory support to os360/mvt ... for os/vs2
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73

A couple references to Ludlow also being author of superzap
http://www.mail-archive.com/vmesa-l@listserv.uark.edu/msg00272.html
http://www.mxg.com/news/news15.asp

RSCS ... Remote Spooling Communications Subsystem
http://www.vm.ibm.com/related/rscs/

also this wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

which references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

from above:
In 1976, MIT Professor Jerry Saltzer accompanied Hendricks to DARPA, where Henricks described his innovations to the principal scientist, Dr. Vinton P. Cerf. From that point on, Vint and other DARPA scientists adopted Hendricks connectionless approach. The result developed into the Internet as we know it today.[6]

... snip ...

Amazon: It's Cool To Be Clever: The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630

HSDT ... high-speed data transport ... some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt

... one of the projects I ran ... and tried to differentiate from communication group's high-speed communication. In the mid-80s, I was having some equipment built on the other side of the pacific. the friday before I left on business trip, the communication group started a new discussion on "high-speed" with the following definitions:
low speed: <9.6kbits medium-speed: 19.2kbits high speed: 56kbits very high speed: T1

monday morning on wall of conference room (on the other side of the pacific):
low speed: <20mbits medium speed: 100mbits high-speed: 200-300mbits very high speed: >600mbits

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Two new (internal network related) wiki entries

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 23 Sep, 2011
Subject: Two new (internal network related) wiki entries
Blog: IBM Historic Computing
response in thread on "It's Cool To Be Clever" (replicated in numerous discussion groups):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#10 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#12 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#15 Any candidates for best acronyms?

I wasn't there ... but what I've frequently pontificated on IMPs were tightly controlled & integrated network infrastructure ... early RFCs about the whole network going down while BBN did IMP maintenance. In the late 70s and early 80s, as number of (IMP) network nodes were approaching 100 ("hosts" hung from IMPs network nodes, approaching 250), there was folklore that IMP admin. chatter would periodically consume nearly all of the 56kbit links bandwidth.

I've somewhat drawn the analogy that each VNET/RSCS node had something akin to gateways, something that didn't come about until the great switch-over to TCP/IP on 1jan1983 (allowing much more autonomous and flexible network growth).

I have vague recollection of somebody from the communication group doing a stint in Armonk and "reviewing" RSCS/VNET ... basically saying that the autonomous internal network couldn't exist. The scenario was something like the communication group had looked at adding peer-to-peer autonomous operation on top of existing VTAM implementation ... and it would require several times the resources that had already been devoted to VTAM; since he had access to all corporate records listing major resource efforts (in communication group scenario, internal network would require more resources that had already gone into both FS and VTAM combined); corporate had no resource record that magnitude ... and therefor the internal network couldn't exist.

Inside IBM, another example of lack of independent, autonomous network implementation was HASP (originally source updates carried "TUCC" indicating customer that originated the implementation) and then JES2. For a long time, JES2 systems at different release levels could cause each other to crash (for a long time there also was required synchronized, coordinated upgrade of all 3705/NCP & VTAM systems). In part because of the gateway/layered/autonomous VNET/RSCS design, it was possible to implement non-native drivers that talked JES2. Then there evolved large library of VNET/RSCS JES2 drivers that would convert JES2 information to canonical form and then appropriate driver used to reformat JES2 information into the release level of the directly connected JES2 system.

This characteristic eventually restricted MVS/JES2 systems to boundary nodes behind an appropriately configured VNET/RSCS node that was responsible for keeping MVS/JES2 systems from crashing each other. There was infamous oversight, where San Jose MVS/JES2 system was causing Hursley MVS/JES2 crashes ... and it was blamed on VNET/RSCS ... because the Hursley VNET/RSCS didn't have the specific driver started that would have prevented the Hursley MVS/JES2 system crashes.

Another thing that restricted MVS/JES2 to boundary nodes was that it would throw away traffic if it didn't have the origin or destination node in local table. JES2 had inherited from HASP (TUCC) implementation was using empty slots in the one byte index pseudo device table to define network nodes (usually restricted to defining well under total 190 nodes). The internal network exceeded that limit very early ... and as a result no MVS/JES2 system could be trusted at other than boundary node.

misc. past posts mentioning HASP/JES2 issues
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

One of the things in the 80s was that the company stopped shipping native VNET/RSCS drivers to customers .... just the VNET/RSCS JES2 drivers ... although the internal network continued to run native drivers (that were more efficient and higher throughput than the JES2 drivers) ... at least to the cut-over to SNA in the late 80s.

misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

misc. past posts mentioning arpanet/internet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 23 Sep, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#8 What is IBM culture?

... and courtesy of George:

It's Cool To Be Clever: The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630

wiki (internal) network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

which references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

long-wind related post in similar/replicated thread in (linkedin) "IBM Historic Computing" group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#16

In the late 80s, the internal RCS/VNET network was moved over to SNA/VTAM ... totally ignoring arguments that it would be much better to move over to TCP/IP ... but at the time there were all sorts of claims being spread internally ... including that NSFNET backbone and internet could run on SNA/VTAM ... old post about somebody on the communication group distribution list for all the internal stuff supposedly justifying SNA/VTAM for the internet (who was forwarding bunch of their misinformation)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#21 SNA/VTAM for NSFNET
and more recent misinformation refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#32 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#34 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#57 SNA/VTAM Misinformation

A couple things that accounted for size of the internet exceeding size of internal network (possibly late 85 or early 86) was 1) great cutover to tcp/ip on 1jan83 gave internet somewhat equivalent autonomous flexibility (to that of the internal network) and 2) communication group was striving hard to preserve the dumb terminal emulation paradigm (and install base) while workstations and PCs were starting to appear as internet network nodes.

#2 also plays a significant factor in the disk division position that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division (stranglehold that the communication group maintained on the datacenter; see reference upthread).

old email mentioning vnet/rscs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:31:43 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Which was caused by Congress passing a law having to do with S&Ls. S&Ls were not banks. Congress then repeated history 20 years later by repealing the banking laws whcih were put into place to prevent another Great Depression.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#0 computer bootlaces

S&Ls were regulated depository institutions ... as are "banks" ... just different regulators. S&L crisis was that the regulator was instructed (by the president) to remove almost all oversight (actually the first regulator refused and then was asked to resign, a new regulator was then appointed by the president, that would comply with the president directions).

Glass-Steagall was passed to keep the risky, unregulated investment bank activity separate from the safety&soundness of (FDIC insured) regulated depository institutions. GLBA repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed both activities to go on in the same institution. This significantly contributed to too-big-to-fail ... effectively having very risky activity going in the same institution responsible for public deposits (and capable of taking down the whole institution). Glass-Steagall didn't preclude risky behavior ... it was just designed to limit the consequences and insulate depository institutions.

The combination of too-big-to-fail and very risky behavor in institution that was being protected from failure ... contributes to moral hazard ... i.e. individuals wouldn't be held accountable for any kind of extremely risky behavior (enormous personal gain w/o the consequences).

In the case of the four largest too-big-to-fail, at the end of 2008, they had $5.2T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs held off-balance. This was extremely risk activity from the investment banking arm (and w/o special regulation would normally have brought down the whole institution ... including the FDIC-insured despository institution).

Going on concurrently with GLBA and repeal of Glass-Steagall was some person instrumental in law that prevents commodity oversight (enron, worldcom, and eventually AIG). Concurrently, SEC that was to perform other kinds of oversight ... appeared to mostly go dormant during the first decade of century (Madoff just one of the consequences, very like eliminating eliminating S&L oversight leading up to the S&L crisis). The combination of factors allowed the individual hot-spots of greed & corruption to combine together into an economic firestorm (which had previously been kept separate and damped down with a combination of regulation and oversight).

In the past, there had been excuses that the economic firestorm during the last decade, was the result of activity that managed to slip through the cracks between different regulators ... however it was 1) regulators nearly went into hibernation during the last decade and 2) repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed previously separated activity in the same institution.

A similar effect was highlighted in Griftopia chapter regarding commodity trading. Previously traders were required to have significant positions in the commodity because sepeculators resulted in wild irrational price swings. Then there were "19 secret letters" issued allowing specific speculators to play. This resulted in large oil spike over $100/barrel the summer of 2008 (among several things). Recently a commodity (speculator) lobbying group was publicly outraged when member of congress released the oil trading transactions showing the speculation activity resulting in the wild, irrational price swings.

misc. past posts mentioning moral hazard (common term referring to financial institutions and individuals not having to worry about being held accountable for risky behavior; the greeater the risk, the greater the upside & the greater the downside ... but the country gets shafted with all the downside)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#64 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#71 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#76 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#16 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#51 Monetary affairs on free reign, but the horse has Boulton'd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#67 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#83 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#86 WSJ finds someone to blame.... be skeptical, and tell the WSJ to grow up
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#0 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#3 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#65 Whether, in our financial crisis, the prize for being the biggest liar is
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#69 Another quiet week in finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#37 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#66 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#22 Is BitCoin a triple entry system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#40 The Next Convergence: The Future of Economic Growth in a Multispeed World

misc. past posts mentioning griftopia:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#6 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#55 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#21 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#90 CFTC Limits on Commodity Speculation May Wait Until Early 2012
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#17 Hey all you Old Geeks (and younger ones too), with gas heading towards $6.00/gal, remote support, satellite offices and home office will become more cost effective
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#40 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#46 Sand in Machine Makes a Stable Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#89 The Grand Message in the Conceptual Spiral
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#21 HOLLOW STATES and a CRISIS OF CAPITALISM

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:48:55 -0400
Skitt <skitt99@comcast.net> writes:
Especially if they worked for IBM. My buddy was an equipment repairman for IBM in the Baltimore area, and he always wore a suit and tie. This was in 1958, or so.

I ordered an FE toolkit in the 80s ... came in briefcase (looks like something a white-color wallstreet professional might carry) initially order was rejected since I wasn't in field service ... eventually escalated and they sent me one. I would leave it in my office at work ... and over the course of a couple months nearly half the contents managed to disappear (lots of the old selectric typewriter tools weren't touched). I started having to make regular trips to hardware store to replenish disappearing items.

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Million Corporation march on Washington

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 24 Sep, 2011
Subject: Million Corporation march on Washington
Blog: Facebook
We had a lunch in place a few blocks from congress and the next week it was written up as the #1 watering hole in washington; they were there in large number of $2000+ suits

There was business news show this morning where commentator started out with statement that corporate tax rate in the US was highest in the world ... and then one of the guest pointed at that (with enormous tax loopholes) US effective tax rate was the avg. for industrial countries (and the commentator started blustering) ... and that US corporate taxes, as percent of GDP are the lowest in the world (and the commentator really started blustering). Then it seemed everybody tried to gang up on the guest ... but w/o actually refuting any statements ... aka don't confuse me with facts.

The business news show guest this morning also made the observation that selling tax loopholes to special interests was enormously lucrative and major source of income for congress.

misc. past posts mentioning congress may be most corrupt institution on earth:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#48 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#49 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#40 F.B.I. Faces New Setback in Computer Overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#88 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#36 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#58 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#63 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#69 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#73 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#14 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#53 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#55 America's Defense Meltdown
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#64 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#20 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#18 Congressional Bickering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#18 What Uncle Warren doesn't mention
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#68 computer bootlaces

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Supervisory Processors

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Supervisory Processors
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:35:28 -0400
Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> writes:
Years ago, there was a discussion of supervisory processors, though I can't seem to find it. I don't recall what was said.

ibm mainframes had field service "bootstrap" process that included being able to "scope" components (to isolate/diagnose for replacement/repair)

with thermal conduction modules (TCM) for the 3081, it was no long possible to "scope" (since everything was inside modules). for 3081 special probes were manufactured into the TCM and "uc.5" microprocessor was configured as "service processor" that could be used to interrogate the probes to diagnose failed components (it was used to perform bunch of other functions ... like substitute for early mainframe front-panel dials & switches, load microcode, etc).

this was continued for 3081 follow-on, the 3090 ... but uc.5 was replaced with a special set of software based on customized version of vm370 release 6 running on 4331 (with all the window "panels" implemented in ios3270). By the time the 3090 shipped, the service processor was upgraded to be a pair of (redundant) 4361 processors (running customized version of vm370 release 6).

references "3092" (aka pair of 4361s) requires two 3370 FBA disks (aka one for each 4361):
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3090.html

old email mentioning 3092
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861031
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#32 Need tool to zap core

misc. past posts mentioning thermal conduction modules &/or service processor:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#41 IBM 4361 CPU technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#61 Living legends
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#62 Living legends
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#108 IBM 9020 computers used by FAA (was Re: EPO stories (was: HELP IT'S HOT!!!!!))
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#38 How to learn assembler language for OS/390 ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#50 VM (not VMS or Virtual Machine, the IBM sort)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#51 VM (not VMS or Virtual Machine, the IBM sort)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#76 Is a VAX a mainframe?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#26 Superduper computers--why RISC not 390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#83 Z/90, S/390, 370/ESA (slightly off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#2 Alpha: an invitation to communicate
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#13 Parity - why even or odd (was Re: Load Locked (was: IA64 running out of steam))
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#7 hot chips and nuclear reactors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#45 VM and/or Linux under OS/390?????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#3 Microcode? (& index searching)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#32 First DESKTOP Unix Box?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#44 PDP-10 Archive migration plan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#42 Beginning of the end for SNA?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#13 IBM Mainframe at home
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#5 What goes into a 3090?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#19 What goes into a 3090?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#79 Fw: HONE was .. Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#28 ibm history note from vmshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#7 What is microcode?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#10 What is microcode?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#58 IBM S/370-168, 195, and 3033
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#59 IBM S/370-168, 195, and 3033
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#40 Linux paging
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#53 MVS History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801 (was Re: Reviving Multics
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#12 Why are there few viruses for UNIX/Linux systems?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#62 IBM Manuals from the 1940's and 1950's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#17 which CPU for educational purposes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#10 Dyadic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#11 Dyadic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#45 A quote from Crypto-Gram
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#37 Wars against bad things
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#10 RISCs too close to hardware?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#15 360 longevity, was RISCs too close to hardware?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#22 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#27 IBM 3705 and UC.5
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#36 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#37 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#41 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#51 History of performance counters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#13 Today's mainframe--anything to new?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#39 FULIST
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#0 EREP , sense ... manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#2 Mount a tape
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#6 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#8 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#27 A Day For Surprises (Astounding Itanium Tricks)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#36 REAL memory column in SDSF
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#24 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#18 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#24 How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#39 Just another example of mainframe costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#15 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#30 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#16 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#1 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#22 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#23 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#39 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#43 FBA rant
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#9 21st Century ISA goals?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#20 Does anyone know of a documented case of VM being penetrated by hackers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#36 Writing 23FDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#37 Writing 23FDs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#77 T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#9 Open z architecture and Linux questions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#46 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#52 Throwaway cores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#54 Throwaway cores
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#60 z10 presentation on 26 Feb
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#80 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#10 Different Implementations of VLIW
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#22 Evil weather
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#77 Z11 - Water cooling?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#45 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#49 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#50 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#49 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#66 Mainframe articles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#44 Z/VM support for FBA devices was Re: z/OS support of HMC's 3270 emulation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#47 Z/VM support for FBA devices was Re: z/OS support of HMC's 3270 emulation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#18 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#24 How to reduce the overall monthly cost on a System z environment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#49 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#51 "Portable" data centers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#43 What was old is new again (water chilled)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#34 Need tool to zap core
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#38 Need tool to zap core
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#44 Need tool to zap core
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#76 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#13 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#16 What was the historical price of a P/390?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#32 Intel Nehalem-EX Aims for the Mainframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#42 IBM 029 service manual
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#71 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#43 IBM 3883 Manuals
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#55 z millicode: where does it reside?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#71 Fujitsu starts shipping 800 rack 80,000 chip 'K' supercomputer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#33 IBM S/360 Green Card high quality scan
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#47 IBM S/360 Green Card high quality scan here
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#37 CKD DASD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#18 Melinda Varian's history page move
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#71 IBM and the Computer Revolution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#15 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#62 3090 ... announce 12Feb85
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#0 coax (3174) throughput
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#20 New job for mainframes: Cloud platform
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#31 TCP/IP Available on MVS When?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#42 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#68 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#13 Last card reader?

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Supervisory Processors

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Supervisory Processors
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:59:03 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
This lesson was learned twice before, once during the mainframe to mini transition, and once during the mini to micro transition. They even have a name for it : Inboarding. Contrary to outboarding, which was very popular when the small machines suddenly were faster than the big machines. Lots of controllers were then full blown systems living in a slot in the bigger, very incompatible machine.

Late IBM 370, VAX, Prime, CDC, Univac all did this with wild abandon to keep the main processor line competitive. It didn't work for long.


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#21 Supervisory Processors

360&370 low-end tended to have integrated channels ... the 360/370 instruction microcode shared the processor with the channel i/o microcode (while the high-end 360/370 had dedicated separate hardware channel box).

360 devices and controllers were all outboard ... and there grew up large business making "clone" devices and controllers. In the early 70s there was large "Future System" effort to design such tight integration that it would preclude the clone manufacturers. In part because the enormous complexity, this failed and was canceled w/o ever being announced.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

the 370/158 was an integrated channel machine (i.e. 370 instruction microcode sharing processor with the channel i/o microcode)

transition to the 303x line ... they created a separate "channel director" box ... which was a 370/158 engine running just the channel i/o microcode (and no 370 instruction microcode).

a 3031 was then two 370/158 engines ... the channel director engine (with the integrated channel microcode) and a processor engine (with only the 370/158 instruction microcode).

a 3032 was 370/168 repackaged to use the channel director engine ... rather than the earlier separate hardware channels

a 3033 started up being 370/168 logic remapped to 20% faster chip technology. the chips also had ten times the circuits that initially were to go unused. during the development cycle, some of the logic was redone to make use of the higher circuit density ... resulting in approx. 50% faster than 370/168 (rather than 20% faster).

The machine following 303x was 3081. somewhat concurrent with large mainframe 3081 effort there was also an effort to replace the large variety of internal microprocessor (used in controllers, and internal processor for lots of computer products ... including low and midrange 370) with 801/RISC (late 70s & early 80s, most were "Iliad" chips of one sort or another). This effort failed ... and most efforts retrenched to various custom designed CISC chips. These 801/RISC effort failures did see some number of engineers leaving and going to other vendors to work on RISC chip efforts.

One such was "ROMP" chip effort that was to be used for the follow-on to the displaywriter. When that project was canceled, they looked around for another market use and settled on UNIX workstation. A vendor (that had done the AT&T unix port to ibm/pc for pc/ix) was hired to do AT&T unix port ... and it was announced as PC/RT along with AIX. Later there was resurgance of the RISC chip uptake for wide variety of microprocessor uses.

misc. past posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, rios, fort knox, somerset, power, power/pc, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

One of the issue was that the 370/158 & 3031 was suppose to be the bottom of the high-end ... while 145, 148, & 4341 was suppose to be mid-range. There was a lot of turmoil in the company when the 4341 benchmarked faster than the 3031 ... was selling for much lower price and had much lower physical footprint. misc. old email from the period touching on 43xx
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

At one point, the executive in charge of the high-end mainframes got the internal allocation for critical component needed for 4341 manufacturing, cut in half (which would have drastically cut the 4341 sales and competition with the 3031).

As an aside, 4341 had integrated I/O channels (single small box), processor benchmarked faster than the two large (370/158) engines (and each box much larger than the 4341 box) and the I/O channels performed much better than the 303x channel director.

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Benefits of Online Banking

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 27 Sep, 2011
Subject: Benefits of Online Banking
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Benefits of Online Banking
http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=4094&rf=2011-09-27-eb&elq=85573e2ab22148d9b290786bcb9d4cda&elqCampaignId=450

from above:
Online banking is convenient and secure, and more consumers are turning to it as their primary banking channel, according to a recent survey conducted by the American Bankers Association.

.... snip ...

Industry conferences circa 95/96, presentations were saying that consumer dial-up online banking was moving to the internet (effectively) to shift most of infrastructure & consumer support costs to ISPs. Commercial & cash-management dial-up online banking were saying they would never move to the internet because of a whole slew of security issues (even with SSL) some recent SSL

World takes notice as SSL-chewing BEAST is unleashed
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/27/beast_attacks_paypay/
The War On SSL Is Coming Your Way
http://www.informationweek.com/byte/news/personal-tech/tablets/231002958
DigiNotar Collapse Exposes Fundamental Security Flaws
http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=4098&pg=1

A couple people we worked with at Oracle on cluster-scale-up in Ellison's conference room ... left not long after this Jan92 meeting ... referenced in this old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

They then show up at small client/server startup responsible for something called commerce server. We were brought in as consultants because they wanted to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL"; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

As part of the effort we had to do walk-throughs and audits of various new businesses that were selling this things called "digital certificates". Not long later, I coined the term comfort certificates ... in attempt to differentiate between security and the appearance of security. misc. past posts mentioning SSL certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts

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Supervisory Processors

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Supervisory Processors
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:47:36 -0400
Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> writes:
As I recall, ROMP was long before the Illiad stuff. I could figure it out by looking at announce dates for PC/RT (romp), AS400 (S/38 follow on from the ashes of Illiad) and the midrange mainframes whose numbers I forget. 9000 series maybe?

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#21 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#22 Supervisory Processors

old email about (los gatos) blue iliad going to mfg feb82
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email810422
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#38

Endicott was doing (a different) iliad chip for the follow-on to 4341 ... the 4381 ... however there was white paper (that i contributed small section; NOV81) about possible to do a native 370 CISC chip at much better performance & price/performce than 801/risc/Iliad chip (which then would run 370 instruction emulation "microcode") ... which then "killed" that particular effort ... a small piece reproduced in this old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#27

wiki has romp silicon 1981 ... but some amount of rework required for ibm rt/pc in 1986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROMP

later email mentiong romp extension issue
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#email841015
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#50

end of '84, i was in process of doing several writeups on rack-based configuations that could have combination of 370 processor cards (and the time roman chip set out of germany) and 801/risc cards. old long winded post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#17

I was also working on network technology and meetings with director of NSF ... and got into juggling problems with meeting about large number of processors in large number racks ... with network technology meetings leading up to NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email850315
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#47

misc. past email mentioning nsfnet backbone technology
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

ibm 6150 rt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_6150_RT

above mentions pc/ix effort in sept84 ... the same company was hired to do similar port for aix.

original romp was cp.r and pl.8 ... when it was decided to retarget to unix workstation ... that outside company was hired to do the port. the issue was what to do with the pl.8 programmers ... and come up with vrm (in pl.8) and claim that unix port to abstract vrm interface would be much simpler than to native hardware.

The palo alto group was doing BSD port to 370 ... which then got retargted to pc/rt native hardware. this BSD effort was significantly less than even the vrm effort ... and didn't have the downside that new device drivers had to be in both vrm pl.8 as well as unix c.

misc. past email mentioning 801/risc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801

later effort with large number of racks with large number of 801/risc chips ... old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

less than a month after this jan92 meeting in ellison's conference on cluster scale-up (both commercial and numerical intensive) ... mentioned in this old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

... the effort was transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors ... a couple weeks later it was announced as supercomputer ... for numerica intensive only ... press item ... 17feb92
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#83

followup item from may92
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#70

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:56:49 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
The ANSI is not the only standards institute in the US. The Department of transport, the Compressed Gas Association, the IEEE and others regularly issue standards. Like the DOT-E 10990, IEEE802.11 etc.

The CGA, IEEE and IETF also have their own international portfolio, even if they legally reside in the US, and must go through ANSI to submit an ISO proposal.


we tried to take high-speed protocol to x3s3.3 (ISO chartered US ANSI for standardization corresponding to OSI levels 3&4) ... but was eventually rejected because ISO had requirements for related standards to correspond to OSI model.

high-speed protocol was rejected since it violated OSI model

1) supported LAN/MAC interface ... doesn't exist in the OSI model ... lies approx. in the middle of layer3.

2) went directly from layer4/transport interface directly to LAN/MAC interface bypassing layer3/layer4 interface

3) supported IETF internetworking ... a layer that doesn't exist in the OSI model ... an OSI non-existing layer between layer3/networking and layer4/transport.

misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp

IETF has had requirement that before protocol proceeding to final standard, there needs to show at least two interoperable implementations ... while ISO has had no similar requirement (being able to pass as standards things that could never actually be implemented).

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Supervisory Processors

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Supervisory Processors
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:40:51 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
wiki has romp silicon 1981 ... but some amount of rework required for ibm rt/pc in 1986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROMP


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#21 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#22 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#24 Supervisory Processors

old email mentioning ROMP-E
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email841114c
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email841127
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#36 Multiple mappings

followup to above
Date: 3/01/85
To: wheeler

Lynn,

Even though we have a change in our system performance objectives, we are trying to tie-up the loose ends from ROMP-E so as to have as complete a picture as possible. As a result, I am still interested in the approache to solving the synonym problem that you were working on a few months ago.

I would greatly appreciate receiving a copy of anything you have written, no matter what shape it is in, or if it is "preliminary". I would like to have at least a suggestion of an approach to the handling of synonyms for VM.

Thanks for your past efforts in helping with the synonym issue.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

issue was that original 801/risc was for closed system with no hardware protection boundaries ... pl.8 would only generate correct programs and cp.r would only load valid pl.8 programs.

one of the issues was that inline pl.8 code would change segment registers as easily as general/address registers ... for changing virtual memory objects and/or shared segments. moving to unix model required hardware protection domain and sharing went through (expensive) kernel calls. the 801 "16" segments became scarce resource in the unix environment. the objective was coming up with mechanism to pack multiple different "small" shared objects in the 256mbyte 801 segment.

misc. past posts mentioning 801, risc, iliad, romp, rios, power, power/pc somerset, fort knox, etc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

misc. 801 related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#801

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"Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 28 Sep, 2011
Subject: "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
Blog: Old Geek Registry
Los Gatos lab did 370 pascal implementation for vlsi design tools implementations ... which eventually morphed into vs/pascal product (on both mainframe and rs/6000).

The initial mainframe TCP/IP product implementation was done in vs/pascal and suffered none of the buffer length exploits that have been epidemic in TCP/IP stacks implemented in C ...

misc. past posts mentioning C-language related buffer length exploits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

There was some issues with that initial implementation (in part because the mainframe channel attach box was a bridge ... not a router ... so there had to be huge amount of fiddling done in the mainframe). I did the enhancements to support RFC1044 (and a channel attach router box) and in some tuning tests at Cray Research (between a Cray and 4341 clone) got possibly 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed (ran at 4341 channel media thruput using only modest amount of the 4341) ...

misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

After the corporate troubles in the early 90s ... there was effort to strip away lots of stuff ... one of the things that went was converting lots of internal chip design tools to COTS (commercial off the shelf) ... part of which included transferring some of the internal tools to outside vendor. I had already left the company ... but got a contract to port a 50k+ statement vs/pascal application to other platforms. One of the other platform pascals had recently been transferred/outsourced to an organization 12 timezones away. The particular pascal appeared to possibly never been used for anything other than educational instructional use ... and so the port was with lots of pain (and even tho I could drop by the platform vendors hdqtrs, all pascal resolution still was at least an overnight affair).

The internal, world-wide sales & marketing support HONE system originally started out to provide branch office SEs with practice running operating systems in (cp/67) virtual machines. They also started providing cmsapl applications for sales&marketing support. Eventually the APL-based sales&marketing support came to dominate all HONE use (and the guest operating system use evaporated). Some of the APL applications were notorious compute intensive. Some of the heavy CPU hogs were eventually re-coded in Fortran ... and then a procedure was created for APL to call Fortran subprograms and then return to APL with results (some cases running 10-100 times faster).

misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
misc. old email mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone

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Supervisory Processors

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Supervisory Processors
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:26:10 -0400
Del Cecchi <delcecchi@gmail.com> writes:
Do you remember what the UC (universal controller) series of processors was used for? UC-0, UC-1, UC.5 etc. Came out of Kingston as I recall. Probably metal gate NMOS.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#21 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#22 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#24 Supervisory Processors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#26 Supervisory Processors

kingston then was still communication group ... before moving to raleigh. was used in (at least) 37xx controller, 8100, and 3081 service processor.

my wife tells about Bob Evans asking her to audit 8100 and she turned thumbs down ... sometime later it was canceled. 8100 wiki (also mentions UC processors):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_8100

the above mentions "8100 Loop" & "R-loop" ... a packet passing local area network. my wife was co-inventor of patent for early token-passing lan ... used in series/1 "chat ring".

copies of old email about mit lisp machine group asking ibm for 801 and Bob Evans offering them 8100 instead:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#email790711
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#email790711
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#email790711
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#email790711

universal controller is also mentioned in FS wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project

misc. past posts mentioning FS effort
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

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It's Cool To Be Clever

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 28 Sep, 2011
Subject: It's Cool To Be Clever
Blog: IBM Connection
It's Cool To Be Clever: The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630

wiki related to internal network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

which references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

from above:
In 1976, MIT Professor Jerry Saltzer accompanied Hendricks to DARPA, where Henricks described his innovations to the principal scientist, Dr. Vinton P. Cerf. From that point on, Vint and other DARPA scientists adopted Hendricks connectionless approach. The result developed into the Internet as we know it today.[6]

... snip ...

and:
6. ^ The story of this visit is related by Leanne Jones in her children's book, "It's Cool To Be Clever." Jones obtained permission from both Cerf and Saltzer to use their names in her book. Both received copies of the printed text.

... snip ...

note that the next reference:
7. ^ Lynn Wheeler, formerly of the IBM Cambridge Scientific Center, maintains an online archive of contemporaneous documents. These numbers, which changed rapidly, are stored at https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 verified on 2011-09-19

... snip ...

was 2006 post in a.f.c.

misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

old VNET related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

for another story (reproduced from Melinda's history):
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

and also from wiki (one of the further reading items):
Leanne Jones, "It's Cool To Be Clever, The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet," Agio Publishing House, 151 Howe St., Victoria Canada V8V 4K5, 2011-07-27 An illustrated chapter book of interest to all ages, unpaged. ISBN 978-1-897435-63-2. An enhanced ebook app based on this story, containing extensive background material on Hendricks and his innovations, is under development.

... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning BITNET (&/or EARN in Europe)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

not "wild-card" route ... but referencing one of my old posts about internal network distribution announcements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

I had done edit macro that would take the new node announcements and do the link/route table updates. old email reference
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#email821206

there was separate hack to equate/alias some node with the string "default" and then route statements could refer to "default"

For some early 68/69 history, old (vnet) email form 78
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#email781018

a few posts from similar/replicated (linkedin) IBM/mainframe groups
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#8
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#15
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#16
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#17

In the late 80s, the internal RCS/VNET network was moved over to SNA/VTAM links ... totally ignoring arguments that it would be much better to move over to TCP/IP ... but at the time there were all sorts of claims being spread internally ... including that NSFNET backbone and internet could run on SNA/VTAM ... old email from somebody on the communication group distribution list for all the internal stuff supposedly justifying SNA/VTAM for the internet (who was forwarding bunch of their misinformation)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#21 SNA/VTAM for NSFNET
and more recent misinformation refs:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#32 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#34 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#57 SNA/VTAM Misinformation

old email about misinformation help justify moving internal network to SNA/VTAM links:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#7

old email about internal VNET meetings became restricted to management only (technical people no longer participating)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#3

old email mentioning vnet/rscs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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CMS load module format

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 29 Sep 2011 11:22:25 -0700
rivers@DIGNUS.COM (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
Can anyone point me to a description of the CMS non-relocatable load module format? I can't seem to find it anywhere... (i.e. the output of the CMS GENMOD command.)

old/original ... part of vm370/cms release 6 dmsmod assemble file from hercules/cbttape distribution (more detailed information in actual source):

•         GENMOD ISSUES THE START (NO) COMMAND TO FINISH LOADING OF     00116000
•         OBJECT PROGRAMS. NEXT ERASE THE OLD MODULE IF IT EXISTS.      00117000
•         THE START AND ENDING LOCATIONS ARE DETERMINED FROM THE        00118000
•         USER OPTIONS 'TO' AND 'FROM' OR BY DEFAULT. THE DEFAULT       00119000
•         START IS THE ADDRESS OF THE FIRST LOADER TABLE NAME, THE      00120000
•         DEFAULT END IS THE CURRENT SETTING OF LOCCNT IN NUCON.        00121000
•         AN EIGHTY BYTE RECORD IS WRITTEN AS THE FIRST RECORD OF THE   00122000
•         THE MODULE. THIS RECORD CONSISTS OF THE NUCON LOADER INFORMA- 00123000
•         TION. NEXT THE TEXT INFORMATION IS WRITTEN TO THE MODULE      00124000
•         FILE IN VARIABLE SIZE RECORDS UP TO 65535 BYTES. IF THE       00125000
•         MODULE IS NOT FOR A TRANSIENT ROUTINE AND NOMAP WAS NOT       00126000
•         SPECIFIED THE LOADER TABLE IS WRITTEN AS THE LAST MODULE      00127000
•         FILE RECORD. CLOSE THE NEW MODULE FILE AND RETURN TO THE      00128000
•         CALLER.                                                       00129000


http://www.cbttape.org/vm6.htm
http://www.cbttape.org/awstape.htm
http://www.smrcc.org.uk/members/g4ugm/VM370.htm

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:29:33 -0400
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> writes:
IBM started the white shirt requirement that previously wasn't that common. EDS later copied it.

joined the science center 1970 ... it tended to be student/business casual ... 545 tech sq ... adjacent to mit campus ... and project mac was upstairs ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

science center was nominal part of the dataprocessing division (DPD ... sales & marketing) ... so I did get a 3piece for wearing to hdqtrs (1133 westchester). when I would be asked to make call with branch office ... they sometimes seemed to prefer me to not be in 3piece ... as somebody "authentic" from internal corporation.

i gave up bothering with 3piece after incident when I was told I no longer had a career in the corporation ... basically refused to help obfuscate circumstance involving large, commercial, "true-blue" customer was going to order large clone processor in retaliation for some perceived insult by the local branch manager (and the local branch manager was supposedly best buds with the CEO; there had previously been clone processor sales, but this was going to be the first for large, commerical, "true-blue"). My participation was supposedly to try and make it look like customer was considering technical issues (otherwise it would appear as black mark on career of the local branch manager ... since he was best buds with the CEO, and since I wasn't taking part in the obfuscation, it would somehow transfer blame to me).

misc. past posts mentioning the incident
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#20 IBM/Watson autobiography--thoughts on?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#48 time spent/day on a computer
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#19 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#28 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#12 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#19 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary

this sort of ties into corporate culture changing after failure of FS (make no waves and sycophancy) part of recent thread in (linkedin) Greater IBM:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#8 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#17 What is IBM culture?

and other past posts mentioning make no waves and sycophancy:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33 IBM's "VM for the PC" c.1984??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#44 Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#66 Future System
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#0 Windowed Interfaces 1981-2009
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#70 An inComplete History Of Mainframe Computing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#31 Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe computer market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#34 big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#60 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#18 How many mainframes are there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#77 Orientation - does group input (or groups of data) make better decisions than one person can?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#13 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#49 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#45 junking CKD; was "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#2 Car models and corporate culture: It's all lies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#33 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#47 The IBM would have, could have and should have story
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#63 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#35 Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#14 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#69 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#10 Preparing for Boyd II

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computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, alt.religion.kibology
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:56:49 -0400
Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> writes:
Seems like that would be a modest homework exercise in Python. You might need to assign writing yacc to really see what the students could do.

(For AUE: discuss using stage whispers when saying this aside: There was a parser maker from NIST or somebody, which I encountered in the late '80s. Originally written in FORTRAN IV, if memory serves. It parsed a slightly larger set of grammars than yacc did -- LR(2) or something. Anybody remember what that was, so I can ya-goo-ing for it on the vista?)


los gatos vlsi tools group made extensive use of TWS ... and later one of the (two) people responsible for pascal ... went to work for metaware ... recent reference in (linkedin) discussion
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#27
and
http://lnkd.in/DGb2En

old post mentioning MetaWare TWS User's Manual (DeRemer & Pennello):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#71 What terminology reflects the "first" computer language ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#0 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#1 [Lit.] Buffer overruns

LALR parser/generator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LALR_parser_generator

from above:
Frank DeRemer invented LALR parsers with his PhD dissertation, called "Practical LR(k) Translators", in 1969, at MIT. This was an important breakthrough, because LR(k) translators, as defined by Donald Knuth in his 1965 paper, "On the Translation of Languages from Left to Right", were much too large for implementation on computers systems in the 1960s and 70's.

... snip ...

LALR parser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LALR_parser

LR parser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LR_parser

misc. other posts mentioning metaware
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#20 Is Al Gore The Father of the Internet?^
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#66 Mainframe Spreadsheets - 1980's History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#19 Beyond 8+3
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#52 Question about Unix "heritage"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#42 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#30 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#35 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#38 CAS and LL/SC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#39 CAS and LL/SC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#61 will there every be another commerically signficant new ISA?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#14 something like a CTC on a PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#33 Power5 and Cell, new issue of IBM Journal of R&D
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#8 Free to good home: IBM RT UNIX
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#14 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#77 CLIs and GUIs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#11 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of ?patents ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#36 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#11 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#29 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#28 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#54 PL/I vs. Pascal
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#69 Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

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Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 30 Sep, 2011
Subject: Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Deloitte sued for $7.6 billion, accused of missing fraud
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/26/us-deloitte-mortgage-idUSTRE78P51E20110926

Sarbanes-Oxley ... supposedly passed to prevent more Enron & Worldcom ... also had requirement for SEC to do something about rating agencies.

In the congressional Madoff hearings, the person that had been trying unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff ... implied that SEC was doing little or nothing the first decade of this century.

In Sarbanes-Oxley, there was requirement for SEC to be active to prevent more Enrons & Worldcoms. However, possibly because the GAO also didn't think that SEC was doing anything ... they started doing GAO reports of public company financial filings that were either fraudulent and/or had extreme audit problems ... showing uptick even after Sarbanes-Oxley was to be active (recent joke seen on the internet Enron was a dry run and it worked so well it has become institutionalized). Choose: 1) SOX had no effect on fraudulent financial filings, 2) SOX encouraged the increase in fraudulent financial filings, or 3) If it weren't for SOX, all public company financial filings would be fraudulent.

During the fall2008 congressional hearings into the role rating agencies played, one of the commentators made the observation that the rating agencies may be able to avoid federal prosecution using the threat of downgrading federal gov. rating.

recent news item: SEC mulls charges against S&P in CDO case
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/26/us-mcgrawhill-wells-idUSTRE78P1TC20110926

The scenario was the regulators went into hibernation during the first decade of the century.

misc. posts mentioning sarbanes-oxley, madoff, and/or rating agencies:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#46 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#48 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#21 New-home sales in 2010 fall to lowest in 47 years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#22 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#43 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#46 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#25 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#30 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#78 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#7 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#56 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#60 In your opinon, what is the highest risk of financial fraud for a corporation ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#35 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#43 Massive Fraud, Common Crime, No Prosecutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#62 Mixing Auth and Non-Auth Modules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#66 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#82 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#86 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#88 Court OKs Firing of Boeing Computer-Security Whistleblowers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#5 How they failed to catch Madoff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#40 Fight Fraud with Device ID
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#52 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#55 Mobius Says Financial Crisis 'Around the Corner'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#71 Pressing Obama, House Bars Rise for Debt Ceiling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#22 Is BitCoin a triple entry system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#41 Delinquent Homeowners to Get Mortgage Aid from Government
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#60 Cyberwar vs. Cyber-Espionage vs. Cybercrime
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#2 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#13 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#21 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#67 U.S. can't account for $8.7 billion of Iraq's money: audit
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#11 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#24 rating agencies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#35 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#38 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#40 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#44 S&P Downgrades USA; Time to Downgrade S&P?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#45 S&P's History of Relentless Political Advocacy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#50 How Many Divisions Does Standard and Poors Have?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#51 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#2 First Website Launched 20 Years Ago Today
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#16 Feds Launch Probe Into S&P Mortgage Rates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#20 Study shows powerful corporations really do control the world's finances
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#22 Slouching toward Weimar
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#37 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#60 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#66 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#1 As Pressure Grows to Cut Spending, the True Cost of Weapons Is Anyone's Guess
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#10 Cracking the code
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#62 The true cost of 9/11: Trillions and trillions wasted on wars, a fiscal catastrophe, and a weaker America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#2 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces

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CMS load module format

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 30 Sep 2011 08:15:06 -0700
Peter.Farley@BROADRIDGE.COM (Farley, Peter x23353) writes:
IIRC there is no easy FTP in or out of VM/370. Your only real transfer capability is the VM/370 system reader and punch. The VMARC format (like XMIT) packages text in 80-byte records and can be transmitted back and forth using reader and punch. There are both MVS 3.8 and VM/370 versions of VMARC, so files created in MVS 3.8 can be transmitted back and forth with VM/370. There is also a VM/370 dump command which writes files to the punch, but I forget the output format that it uses.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format

... note lots of os/360 (&/or mvs) applications/compilers were ported to CMS .... by implementing simulation of os/360 access method services (on cms filesystem, this is different from simulation of os/360 access method services on real mvs disks mentioned below).

CMSSEG was introduced in vm370 release 3 with DCSS (a very small subset of my paged-mapped filesystem and virtual memory management changes mentioned below). OS simulation should be in CMSSEG (there was joke about 32kbyte OS/360 simulation code in CMSSEG was much more cost effective OS/360 simulation than the 8mbyte OS/360 simulation in MVS). this has discussion about standard hercules distribution and whether cmsseg definition is in conflict with the cms virtual machine size you are using:
http://osdir.com/ml/emulators.hercules390.vm/2003-11/msg00132.html

"disk dump/load" was one of the original cms (when it was cambridge monitor system on cp67 ... before morph to vm370 and name change to conversational monitor system) commands from mid-60s. The original CMS filesystem formated disks into 800-byte fixed length physical records (early form of FBA). a similar gimick (temporary changing file format to 800-byte fixed-length records) was also used by the cms tape dump/load application ... but physical 800-byte blocks on tape.

from dmsdsk (also from vm370 release 6)


•        DUMP:   DISK COPIES  THE  FILE  DESIGNATION FROM  THE          00096000
•        PARAMETER  LIST INTO  BYTES  58 -  76  OF AN  89-BYTE          00097000
•        BUFFER. (THE FIRST  FOUR BYTES OF THE  BUFFER CONTAIN          00098000
•        AN    IDENTIFIER    CONSISTING   OF    AN    INTERNAL          00099000
•        REPRESENTATION OF  A 12-2-9 PUNCH AND  THE CHARACTERS          00100000
•        'CMS'.)   THEN    DISK   TEMPORARILY    CHANGES   THE          00101000
•        CHARACTERISTICS OF THE FILE IN  THE 40-BYTE FST ENTRY          00102000
•        TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS  A FILE OF 800-BYTE FIXED-LENGTH          00103000
•        RECORDS.  (THE CORRECT FST ENTRY IS RESTORED WHEN THE          00104000
•        FILE HAS  BEEN DUMPED,  OF COURSE.)   DISK MOVES  THE          00105000
•        INITIAL VALUE FOR SEQUENCING                                   00106000
•        (001)  INTO BYTES  77-80 OF  THE  BUFFER.  DISK  NEXT          00107000
•        CALLS THE DMSBRD FUNCTION                                      00108000
•        PROGRAM TO READ  THE FIRST 50 BYTES  OF THE TEMPORARY          00109000
•        COPY INTO                                                      00110000
•        BYTES 6-55 OF THE BUFFER AND THEN THE DMSCIO FUNCTION          00111000
•        PROGRAM TO PUNCH                                               00112000
•        THE CONTENTS OF THE BUFFER.  HAVING PUNCHED THE FIRST          00113000
•        CARD,  DISK  INCREMENTS THE  SEQUENCE  NUMBER  (BYTES          00114000
•        77-80 OF THE  OUTPUT BUFFER) AND OVERLAYS  BYTES 6-55          00115000
•        OF THE BUFFER WITH THE NEXT 50 BYTES OF THE FILE               00116000
•        BY CALLING DMSBRD.   IT THEN PUNCHES THE  CONTENTS OF          00117000
•        THE                                                            00118000
•        BUFFER.    DISK  REPEATS   THIS   PROCESS  FOR   EACH          00119000
•        SUBSEQUENT 50  BYTES OF  DATA IN  THE TEMPORARY  DISK          00120000
•        FILE.   WHEN  THE END-OF-FILE  IS  ENCOUNTERED,  DISK          00121000
•        GENERATES AN  END CARD (ONE WITH  N IN COLUMN  5) AND          00122000
•        PUNCHES IT,                                                    00123000
•        CALLS THE CP CLOSE COMMAND TO CLOSE PUNCH                      00124000

... snip ...

During the FS period ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

lots of 370 development (both software & hardware) was cut back all over the company. with the failure of FS ... there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines. This was motivation for picking up a lot of 370 stuff I had been doing all during the FS period for vm370 release 3 ... some old email related to converting & enhancing bunch of stuff from cp67 to vm370:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

and then additional stuff as separate kernel add-on (used as guinea pig for starting to charge for kernel software) ...
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock

MVS was in mad rush to do mvs/xa ... which was going to take another 7-8 years ... but the head of POK managed to convinced corporate to kill-off the vm370 product, close the development group, and transfer all the people to POK or otherwise MVS/XA wouldn't be able to make it ship date.

While this was going on, somebody in the vm370 development group had done a fairly full set of CMS OS simulation access method for operating against real MVS formated disks. however, releasing this code was not consistent with the decision to kill off vm370 product (which would have gone out prior to vm370 release 6 ... and would therefor could have been part of the source base). There is joke that head of POK was one of the biggest contributor to DEC VAX/VMS ... since so many development people left and went to work on DEC's (infant) VMS, instead of moving to POK (including individuals responsible for the significantly enhanced OS simulated access methods). In the resulting chaos ... the source for that implementation disappeared.

Eventually, Endicott managed to "save" the vm370 product mission, but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch.

VMFPLC was done as an enhanced TAPE dump/load ... but with larger tape block sizes. I borrowed source for VMFPLC (wasn't part of standard distribution) to make the changes necessary to support my cms virtual memory mapped filesystem ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

I was then asked to provide Endicott a copy of the source ... since it was another thing that got lost in the chaos of shutdown of the vm370 development group.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#24 CMSBACK

above also mentions CMSBACK ... which I had done in the late 70s for internal datacenters ... I had made further enhancements to vmfplc to use as backup/archive. misc. old email mentioning cmsback
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback

CMSBACK later morphs into workstation datasave (as customer product), then ADSM and finally as current TSM. misc. past posts mentioning backup/archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup

other old posts mentioning vmfplc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#149 OS/360 (and descendants) VM system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#92 "blocking factors" (Was: Tapes)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#35 Computers in Science Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#36 Computers in Science Fiction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#42 VMFPLC2 tape format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#43 VMFPLC2 tape format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#44 filesystem structure, was tape format (long post)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#47 Slashdot: O'Reilly On The Importance Of The Mainframe Heritage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#39 Candle support from Los Delhi
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#56 Q ALLOC PAGE vs. CP Q ALLOC vs ESAMAP
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#42 VMFPLC2 to load EREP PTFs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#8 How to restore VMFPLC dumped files on z/VM V5.1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#9 How to restore VMFPLC dumped files on z/VM V5.1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#10 How to restore VMFPLC dumped files on z/VM V5.1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#25 To RISC or not to RISC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#72 tape blocking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#17 Magnetic tape storage
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#66 Evolution of Floating Point
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#19 Old EMAIL Index

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How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 30 Sep, 2011
Subject: How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
Blog: Mainframe Experts
re:
http://lnkd.in/E9K2p6

not still in my inbox ... but
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html

however, for some background
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630

wiki related to internal network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

which references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

from above:
In 1976, MIT Professor Jerry Saltzer accompanied Hendricks to DARPA, where Henricks described his innovations to the principal scientist, Dr. Vinton P. Cerf. From that point on, Vint and other DARPA scientists adopted Hendricks connectionless approach. The result developed into the Internet as we know it today.[6]

... snip ...

and:
6. ^ The story of this visit is related by Leanne Jones in her children's book, "It's Cool To Be Clever." Jones obtained permission from both Cerf and Saltzer to use their names in her book. Both received copies of the printed text.

... snip ...

note that the next reference:
7. ^ Lynn Wheeler, formerly of the IBM Cambridge Scientific Center, maintains an online archive of contemporaneous documents. These numbers, which changed rapidly, are stored at
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8 verified on 2011-09-19


... snip ...

was 2006 post in a.f.c.

misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

for another story (reproduced from Melinda's history):
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

and also from wiki (one of the further reading items):
Leanne Jones, "It's Cool To Be Clever, The story of Edson C. Hendricks, the genius who invented the design for the Internet," Agio Publishing House, 151 Howe St., Victoria Canada V8V 4K5, 2011-07-27 An illustrated chapter book of interest to all ages, unpaged. ISBN 978-1-897435-63-2. An enhanced ebook app based on this story, containing extensive background material on Hendricks and his innovations, is under development.

... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning BITNET (&/or EARN in Europe)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

misc. past posts mentioning internal network
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

some old vnet (internal network) related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

including this one discussing 68/69 timeframe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#email781018

long winded post in related/replicated thread in (linkedin) "IBM Historic Computing"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#16 Two new (internal network related) wiki entries

and another in (linkedin) "Greater IBM"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#17 What is IBM culture?

TCP/IP is the technology basis for the modern internet, NSFNET backbone was the operational basis for the modern internet and CIX was the business basis for the modern internet. misc. old email about working on leading up to NSFNET backbone
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

when NSFNET backbone RFP was originally released, internal politics prevented us bidding. Director of NSF wrote corporation a letter (copying CEO) trying to help (things like what we already had running was at least five years ahead of all RFP responses), which just aggravated the internal politics.

Original mainframe TCP/IP product was implemented in vs/pascal for VM370 ... although there was some throughput implementations. I did the RFC1044 support enhancements and in some tuning tests at Cray research (between cray and 4341-clone) got possibly 500 times improvement in ratio of bytes moved per instruction executed (channel media througput using only modest amount of processor). Later the implementation was ported to MVS by simulating some of the VM370 functions.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

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CMS load module format

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 1 Oct, 2011
Subject: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vmesa-l
On 30sep2011, Stephen Powell wrote:
Yes, I remember that. But there was a full-screen 3270 editor similar to XEDIT available with VM/370 release 6 called EDGAR. I think it was an add-on product. I don't think it was part of VM/370. I haven't been following this thread; so please excuse me if I am butting in with irrelevant information

part of thread from ibm-main
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34

recent post discussing EDGAR (in mailing list thread about human factors in design of scrolling convention):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#7 History of user model for scrolling

and recent post in (linkedin) Greater IBM thread about acronyms and some discussion of EDGAR (Editing Data Graphically and Recursively)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#55 Any candidates for best acronyms?

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 1 Oct, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#8 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#17 What is IBM culture?

I had started playing with cp67 as undergraduate when it was installed at the univ. the last week jan68.

The 23jun69 unbundling announcement including starting to charge for application software (company made the case that kernel software should still be free) and SE services. This made radical change in SE "training" program since up until then, junior SEs got their training as part of large team (sort of apprentice/journeyman) at customer account. With unbundling, *ALL* SE time at customer account had to be billed to customer. This prompted setting up HONE, some number of (virtual machine) CP67 datacenters where SEs at branch offices could login and practice their operating system skills with virtual machine guest operating system. misc. past posts mentioning unbundling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

Not long later, HONE also started deploying CMS\APL based sales&marketing support applications. Eventually the sales&marketing support applications came to dominate all HONE activity and the SE practicing guest operating system skills disappeared. HONE use and datacenters started to proliferate eventually becoming world-wide. misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

Not long after I joined IBM, EMEA hdqtrs moved from NY to Paris, and I was asked to help in setting up their HONE-clone operation in Paris.

Later, after FS failure ... there was mad rush to get products back into the 370 hardware and software pipelines. Some of this was decision to release 370 software that I continued to do all during the FS period (as well as periodically ridicule FS). misc. past posts mentioning FS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Another item was the 370 138/148 (virgil/tully) mid-range machines as follow-on to 135/145 ... which Endicott roped me into helping with. They also suckered me into running around the world presenting 138/148 product to different country business planners (note that this was in the wake of FS and the culture change to make no waves and sycophancy).

There was significant difference between US/domestic and world-trade culture. In the US, the regional business planners took their product forecasts from hdqtrs stragic direction (they forecast what ever they were told was strategic). There was a big business culture difference in world trade since business forecasts amounted to order between the country business unit and the manufacturing plant (and assets transferred from manufacturing plant to country business). The regional business forecasters could get away with forecasting whatever hdqtrs declared strategic since there wasn't a corresponding accountability (in world-trade, forecasts amounted to manufacturing orders which were then transferred to country books). There was no downside for US regional forecasts to follow corporate strategic direction (since any missed forecasts were still carried on the manufacturing plant books, not carried on the region books). As a result, manufacturing plants had much higher confidence in world-trade forecasts than US regional forecasts (there was even joke that if corporate declared something strategic, it was something that wasn't selling, and there would be sales incentives to move the product).

misc. past posts mentioning difference in US & world-trade forecasting
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#62 microsoft antitrust
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#16 DOS/360: Forty years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#18 DOS/360: Forty years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#10 long ago and far away, vm370 from early/mid 70s
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#44 1960s: IBM mgmt mistrust of SLT for ICs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#46 1960s: IBM mgmt mistrust of SLT for ICs?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#15 Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#36 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#42 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened

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ISBNs

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:17:18 -0400
Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kirshenbaum@gmail.com> writes:
Right. Also things like "trusted machines", where if you're not on a machine that you've established by extra security and said that you want to trust in the future, you have to answer extra questions. One of my banks has the PIN given by picking on-screen buttons with the mouse, presumably to frustrate key-loggers.

past post/thread about mouse motion loggers appeared almost simultaneously with on-sceen pin-pads
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#15 Passwords for bank sites - change or not

there was detailed study of PC vulnerabilities in the mid-90s which resulted in the EU FINREAD standard in the late 90s (which is immune to large family of PC exploits). misc. past posts mentioning EU FINREAD standard
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread

there were (at least) two problems in the early part of the century

1) a number of "safe" internet payment transaction products were developed and pitched to larger merchants (in aggregate accounting for 60+percent of online transactions) and financial institutions. they found high acceptance among the merchants until cognitive dissonance. Merchants have been conditioned for decades that interchange fees (money banks skim off transactions before giving merchants residual) are proportional to fraud&risk. Merchants had been expecting radically reduced fees/skim with the safe products (that would significantly reduce fraud). However, the financial institutions decided to set the interchange fees for "safe" products effectively as a surcharge on top of the highest currently charge fees (resulting in the cognitive dissonance among merchants and rejection of the products).

recent posts mentioning cognitive dissonance (over interchange fees) and safe internet payment products
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#42 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#11 Credit cards with a proximity wifi chip can be as safe as walking around with your credit card number on a poster
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#58 Pipeline and Network Security: Protecting a Series of Tubes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#56 Does outsourcing cause data loss?

2) there were hardware/chip based products with chipreader offered for consumer internet use (attached to PC). the chipreaders were given away free. However, the "free" chipreaders were "serial-port" ... and aftermarket installation by end-users resulted in enormous customer support problems (systems crashing, systems having to be re-installed from scratch, etc). The resulting consumer support problems resulted in the withdrawal of the products and rapidly spreading opinion in the financial industry that chipcard (with chipcard readers) weren't practical in the consumer market.

It turns out the issue was the cards or the card readers ... but the choice of serial-port interface. A major motivation for USB was because the enormous consumer problems with serial-port interface (with the introduction of USB, there werer huge numbers of obsolete serial-port readers that became available at fire-sale prices to give away for free .... which in retrospect was a horribly bad decision). The EU FINREAD program became collaterial damage in the aftermath.

As an aside, in the 95/96 timeframe there were presentations at financial industry meetings about consumer dial-up banking moving to the internet. The major motivation was being able to offload the significant consumer support costs associated with proprietary dail-up infrastructure and serial-port modems to ISPs (as an aside, at the same time commercial/cash-management dial-up banking said they would never move to the internet because of a very long list of security vulnerabilities). In the approx. five years between the movement of consumer dail-up banking to the internet and the (chipcard) serial-port reader programs ... all the institutional knowledge about the enormous consumer support costs for serial-port devices appeared to have evaporated from financial institutions.

recent posts mentioning oldtime dial-up banking moving to internet:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#48 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#3 RSA Pawned - Black Queen runs amoc behind US lines of defence
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#4 1st round in Internet Account Fraud World Cup: Customer 0, Bank 1, Attacker 300,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#65 US Business Banking Cybercrime Wave: Is 'Commercially Reasonable' Reasonable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#40 Banks blocking more fraudulent money transfers from hijacked business accounts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#23 Benefits of Online Banking

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:09:39 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
1) a number of "safe" internet payment transaction products were developed and pitched to larger merchants (in aggregate accounting for 60+percent of online transactions) and financial institutions. they found high acceptance among the merchants until "cognitive dissonance". Merchants have been conditioned for decades that interchange fees (money banks skim off transactions before giving merchants residual) are proportional to fraud&risk. Merchants had been expecting radically reduced fees/skim with the safe products (that would significantly reduce fraud). However, the financial institutions decided to set the interchange fees for "safe" products effectively as a surcharge on top of the highest currently charge fees (resulting in the cognitive dissonance among merchants and rejection of the products).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs

one of the issues for US is that payment transaction were 40% or higher (some large card issuing institutions, 60%) of revenues (compared to 10% or less in europe). old reference which has gone 404 ... but lives on at the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20060526221137/http://www.epaynews.com/index.cgi?survey=&ref=browse&f=view&id=1147439455861413176&block=

There has been order of magnitude spread in size of fraud-proportional interchange fees ... so drastically reducing fraud on internet payment transactions was expected to have nearly order of magnitude reduction in fees ... which would have had significant hit to the bottom line for US financial institutions (much larger than their counterparts in Europe) ... which has resulted in speculation about higher resistance in US to new technology that could reduce interchange fee.

3) The above article mentions another chip-based product that has seen wide distribution in Europe. There was also a large pilot deployment in the US around the start of the century. However, the infrastructure was subject to trivial attack (nearly the same process and technology used in magstripe skimming) ... mentioned in this web page (also gone 404)
https://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html

There was presentation of the attack at (US) ATM Integrity Task Force meetings ... which resulted in loud observation from the audience that they managed to spend billions of dollars to prove that chips were less secure than magstripe. In any case, the large pilot appeared to have evaporated w/o a trace. There has been observation that with such a significant weakness&vulnerability ... that it would probably take a long time before there was a repeat effort in the US.

The "exploit" was refered to as YES CARD ... since it was trivial to create counterfeit cards that were program to respond YES to all three: 1) was the correct PIN entered, 2) perform transaction "offline" and 3) is the transaction within credit limit. misc. past posts mentioning YES CARD
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

other past posts mentioning the epaynews article:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#35 3 of the big 4 - all doing payment systems
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#27 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#38 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#78 Kansas City Fed Chief Espouses ACH for Debit Card Processing

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:26:01 -0400
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
A mechanism that was defeated several years ago by the simple expedient of adding a mouse tracker to the key logger that grabs the screen around the mouse click.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs

the latest rounds have lots of techniques to hide in boot record and then re-infect (if rest of machine is disinfected) and have countermeasures to keep other kinds of trojans and viruses from infecting the machines.

they also have trojans that run inside the browser ... where it simulates lots of the bank's browser environment and performs fraudulent transactions within the user's own banking environment ... fiddling the banking screens so that the fraudulent transactions don't show up and doing things like keeping the balance from reflecting the fraudulent transactions. they also try to infect any corresponding smartphone to eliminate any out-of-band transaction notifications

with commercial/cash-management online banking moving to internet (from proprietary dial-up banking implementations), there are starting be more such attacks showing up in the press. part of the issue is that commercial banking isn't covered by the consumer protection laws ... and some number of the instances have shown up in courts.

Feds have released guidelines that commerical institutions have a dedicated PC that is used *ONLY* for online banking and *NEVER* used for anything else (partially trying to approx. oldtime dial-up banking environment).
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#6 Online Banking & Password Theft
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#38 U.K. bank hit by massive fraud from ZeuS-based botnet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#82 Nearly $1,000,000 stolen electronically from the University of Virginia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#87 Nearly $1,000,000 stolen electronically from the University of Virginia
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#9 'Here you have' email worm spreads quickly
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#47 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#22 An online bank scam worthy of a spy novel
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#48 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#4 1st round in Internet Account Fraud World Cup: Customer 0, Bank 1, Attacker 300,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#65 US Business Banking Cybercrime Wave: Is 'Commercially Reasonable' Reasonable?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#40 Banks blocking more fraudulent money transfers from hijacked business accounts

more references to ZueS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#23 A mighty fortress is our PKI, Part II
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#65 How Safe Are Online Financial Transactions?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#14 Mainframe Slang terms
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#49 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bnak SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#77 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#1 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#17 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#42 Facebook and Twitter fail basic security test
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#75 I'd forgotten what a 2305 looked like
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification

a few old posts mentioning "man in the browser" attacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#22 'Man in the browser' is new threat to online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#27 'Man in the browser' is new threat to online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#28 'Man in the browser' is new threat to online banking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#11 Public Computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#47 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#56 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#77 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#56 WoW security: now better than most banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)

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CMS load module format

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 1 Oct 2011 18:54:19 -0700
lists@AKPHS.COM (Phil Smith III) writes:
Yes, Edgar was an add-on product. It was somewhat similar to XEDIT in a lot of ways. There were apparently a number of full-screen CMS editors inside IBM, but XEDIT is the one that got picked for VM/SP.

x-over from z/vm mailing list:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#36 CMS load module format

original cp67/cms edit worked somewhat more like unix sed ... where read read original file as stream outputing to temp/work file and then would ping back&forth between two temp/work files before replacing the original file. a new editor was created that ran out of cms (virtual) memory ... and the previous edit was renamed cedit (the new "edit" could only handle files that would fit in virtual memory ... but cedit could edit arbitrary large files ... larger than available memory).

move to vm370/cms and 3270 ... the standard cms editor was updated to display a fullscreen of the file ... but retained command line operation. EDGAR added fullscreen editing ... i.e. changes could be made directly to data displayed on screen ... as well as other commands on each line.

By the time of xedit, there were quite a few internal "full-screen" editors that were quite robust and had large number of functions. I had gotten involved in trying to justify one of these others as alternative to xedit ... old post in ibm-main
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26
that includees these old emails
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email781103
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800311
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800312
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800429
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800501

In one case, there was comment from the Endicott edit release group that it was the "fault" of the author of one of these other editors that it was more robust and had more function than xedit ... and therefor it should be his responsibility to make all the enhancements to xedit (as opposed to releasing his editor).

this is trivial benchmark from Jun79 of various cms editors (giving virtual & total cpu use for edit of same file):


EDIT CMSLIB MACLIB S               2.53/2.81
RED CMSLIB MACLIB S  (NODEF)       2.91/3.12
ZED CMSLIB MACLIB S                5.83/6.52
EDGAR CMSLIB MACLIB S              5.96/6.45
SPF CMSLIB MACLIB S ( WHOLE )      6.66/7.52
XEDIT CMSLIB MACLIB S             14.05/14.88
NED CMSLIB MACLIB S               15.70/16.52

"EDIT" is the standard CMS edit ... all the other editors were fullscreen and nearly all were more robust and except for "NED" was significantly more efficient than XEDIT.

As an aside ... one of the above emails makes reference to sending me tape for system distribution. One of my hobbies was creating, distributing, and supporting highly enhanced operating systems for internal use.

this old email mentions doing csc/vm for internal distribution:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#7

this old email makes some mention doing sjr/vm for internal distribution
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#email830709
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#email830711
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#email830711b
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12

and then there were operations like HONE which would do world-wide re-distributions for the HONE-clones all over the world ... misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 1 Oct 2011 20:08:40 -0700
phil@VOLTAGE.COM (Phil Smith) writes:
Yeah, editors are definitely religion. But ISPF on VM sucked unequivocally just because of how fragile it was, due to how they implemented it - whether you liked the functionality or not, having to deal with it breaking all the time was horrible. And left a very bad taste in many VMers' mouths that may or may not have been deserved (he said, trying desperately to avoid the religious part of the argument!).

ISPF had a different VM issue involving the VM performance tools group ... misc. past posts mentioning tale told at share (i.e. diverting funds from tools group into ISPF development):
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#17 Where's all the VMers?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#33 XEDIT on MVS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#40 FULIST
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#50 TSO and more was: PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#46 DEC-10 SOS Editor Intra-Line Editing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#6 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#50 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#84 Set numbers off permanently
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#62 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled

past posts in this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#36 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41 CMS load module format

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:15:59 -0400
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
Nags Head is on a barrier island. Every now and again they get wiped out by a hurricane. Result most of the buildings are rebuilt in the current fashion. Right after the storm in barrier islands the cottages are built on stilts and there is an open area for parking, which gradually becomes more and more enclosed. Eventually regular houses are built and wiped out by the next hurricane. Rinse, lather, repeat.

are FED funds used for rebuilding?

there was old program that mentioning half of FED disaster insurance goes to the state of mississippi every year ... frequently to the same people ... rebuilding in same areas year after year. there was supposedly some comment from mississippi politicians that it was effectively federal aid to the state and the state deserved it (especially for the construction firms that made business of rebuilding the same structures in the same places year after year).

More recently 60mins (or pbs?) did program that it still continues decades after congress passed a law that (at least in case of river and coastal federal disaster insurance) ... that it was no longer legal to give it to the same people to rebuild year after year in the same high risk areas ... it was still going on ... especially for politically well-connected individuals. Justification in congress pulls up a few human interest stories ... but there is huge amount of well-connected interests with Repetitive Loss Properties.

Discusses "Repetitive Loss Properties" for high-risk areas
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32972.pdf

Repetitive Loss Problem
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/bank/hba89082.000/hba89082_0f.htm

Actions to Address Repetitive Loss Properties
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-04-401T
more recent:
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-297

past posts mentioning FED insurance:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#41 Where do the filesystem and RAID system belong?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#42 Where do the filesystem and RAID system belong?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#67 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#41 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 2 Oct 2011 13:21:48 -0700
shmuel+ibm-main@PATRIOT.NET (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
ITYM decent. Did EDGAR have prefix macros like XEDIT had?

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#36 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#42 CMS load module format

xedit wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEDIT

what i remember was that in the above "typical screen layout" ... was that prefix area was standard EDGAR feature and there was xedit macro that would setup edgar look&feel (although i have some vague recollection using edgar prefix area on the right rather than the left).

I found this (posted 20Nov89 from somebody at EARN/CEARN)
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse.cgi?fn=XEDITTXT&ft=MEMO

from above:
No special XEDIT setting other than my standard EDGAR (prefix on the right so I can use the "next line" key, no scale/tabline nonsense, nulls on, stay on, wrap on, case ignore, in other words, the opposite of most XEDIT default settings :-) ).

... snip ...

old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#23

references:

Historical Manuals CMS Reference (feb/mar 1984)
http://ukcc.uky.edu/ukccinfo/391/cmsref.html

from above:
XEDIT no longer supports EDGAR simulation mode, and the EDGAR and ECOMMAND commands are no longer available.

... snip ...

i.e. drop support for EDGAR macro (ECOMMAND) syntax.

from long ago and far away:
Date: 06/29/81 21:40:38
To: wheeler
From: somebody austrailia

Re: RED -> XEDIT .. I haven't had too much trouble migrating to XEDIT. My EDGAR stuff was easy. The NED stuff not so easy, but not too hard (being restricted to getting the whole file in-storage can be quite a restriction), but there's not much one can do about the lack of RED's pattern-matching facilities .. that's a REAL pain!

Re: PARASITE .. on the weekend I had a chance to try the newest version you sent me during (yet another) VM/SP test time .. I still have the same problems with having to hit ENTER twice to get any action, and with it dozing off in the middle of a lot of line-by-line output. It seems to be not getting (or handling) the interrupts from CP. Didn't someone else report a similar problem?

Any thoughts/comments on my input re CJNTEL and PARASITE last time (re-sending after this VMSG)? Regards,


... snip ... top of post, old email index

ned was one of the editor's mentioned in previous post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41
that includes excerpt from edit comparison from old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26

NED was the most compute overhead of all the editors ... but NED also included the ability to edit file larger than would fit in virtual memory (as referenced in above).

PARASITE was small CMS terminal emulator application using the VM logical device extensions (used by PVM) It had a companion routine "STORY" that was terminal scripting application (both would run in CMS transient area). old post with PARASITE/STORY references
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35

followup post contains STORY for automatically logging into RETAIN and retrieving PUT bucket
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36

CJNTEL was an internal network online facility that allowed remote query of name/phone for increasing parts of the corporation (had access to online internal telephone books). some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cjntel

VMSG was internal email client. A very early 0.x VMSG source version was picked up by the PROFS group and used for their email client. When the VMSG author contacted PROFS group and offered them a much more complete 1.0 source, the PROFS group attempted to get him fired (denying that they were using VMSG). The whole thing quieted down after the VMSG authored pointed out that every PROFS note in the world had his initials in a non-displayed field. After that the source was restricted to two of us (besides the VMSG author). misc. past posts mentioning VMSG:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#35 why is there an "@" key?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#46 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#39 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#40 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#14 Mail system scalability (Was: Re: Itanium troubles)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#58 history of CMS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#4 HONE, ****, misc
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#34 VSE (Was: Re: Refusal to change was Re: LE and COBOL)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#13 Mainframe Virus ????
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#43 FULIST
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#44 FULIST
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#4 Fast action games on System/360+?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#23 sorting was: The System/360 Model 20 Wasn't As Bad As All That
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#42 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#17 Jim Gray Is Missing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#13 Why is switch to DSL so traumatic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#54 An old fashioned Christmas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#55 An old fashioned Christmas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#63 An old fashioned Christmas
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#59 Happy 20th Birthday, AS/400
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#0 Timeline: The evolution of online communities
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#4 Arpanet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#64 spool file tag data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#66 spool file data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#32 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#1 DEC-10 SOS Editor Intra-Line Editing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#44 sysout using machine control instead of ANSI control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#61 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#67 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#83 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#81 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#82 A History of VM Performance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#57 SNA/VTAM Misinformation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#11 History of APL -- Software Preservation Group
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#6 Robert Morris, man who helped develop Unix, dies at 78

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What is IBM culture?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 3 Oct, 2011
Subject: What is IBM culture?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#43 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#6 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#8 What is IBM culture?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#17 What is IBM culture?

this old post on innovation and other crimes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#38
has a couple old emails about (somebody) talking to a freelance writer who is ghosting an article for a corporate executive to be published in harvard business review ("fostering creativity in large corporations")
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email840405
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email840405b

corporate communications outlined the article and it was subtitled "6 steps to creativity"
1. Cultivate/encourage the wild duck 2. Encourage creative restlessness -- set goals beyond reach Make people strive beyond their abilities 3. Require continuing education 4. Give serendipity a chance Encourage unexpected interactions 5. Manage failure well Salvage what can be; learn lessons, etc. 6. Think the unthinkable Such as doing business in "different" ways, e.g., IBUs...

the first is watson's employee wild ducks. I've mentioned before that in the aftermath of FS failure there was the observation that wild ducks are tolerated as long as they fly in formation. The recent 100 years celebration had item on wild ducks but it was redirected to customers that were wild ducks ... the idea of employee wild ducks may have evaporated.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#30 IBM Centennial Film: Wild Ducks

from ibm jargon:
wild duck - n. A creative technical person who does unconventional things, or at least does things in an unconventional way. Implies respect, and an acknowledgment that many of that person's ideas turn out to be valuable. It is said that IBM does not mind having a few wild ducks around - so long as they fly in formation. This term was created by T._J._Watson Jr., who told a story (by the philosopher Kirkegaard) about a flock of wild ducks that landed near a farm. Some got fed by the farmer and stayed, and either died of obesity or got eaten. The truly wild ones flew away - and survived.

... snip ...

previous posts mentioning wild ducks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#25 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#18 IT full of 'ducks'? Declare open season
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#1 What is IBM culture?

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From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 3 Oct, 2011
Subject: From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
Blog: zVM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
and:
http://lnkd.in/rr-CEv

from long ago and far away ... old post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#59
with this old email (from Endicott High Availability Project Office)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#email820519

As mentioned upthread ... HONE systems was making such vm370 enhancements in the late 70s.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

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From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 3 Oct, 2011
Subject: From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
Blog: Historic IBM Computing
something of x-over from zVM postings ... reference to 2009 announcement of SSI support for zVM.
http://lnkd.in/rr-CEv

recent post (also archived here)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#46
with reference to old 19May82 email about Endicott looking at vm370 SSI support
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#email820519

vm370 SSI support had been done in the late 70s for the internal HONE system ... misc. past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

and even earlier by various of the virtual machine based commercial online service bureaus.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare

and another old reference
Date: 08/26/82 09:35:43
From: wheeler

re: i/o capacity on 4341; from The Adessa Advantage, Volume 1, Number 1, October 1981., Strategies for Coping with Technology.

... as of this writing, for roughly $500,000 you can purchase a processor with the capacity to execute about 1.6 million instructions per second. This system, the 4341 model group 2, comes with eight megabytes of storage and six channels. Also at this time, a large processor like the IBM 3033 costs about $2,600,000 when configured with sixteen megabytes of memory and twelve channels. The processor will execute about 4.4 million instructions per second.

... What would happen happen if the 3033 capacity for computing was replaced by some number of 4341 model group 2 processors? How many of these newer processors would be needed, and what benefits might result by following such a course of action?

... three of the 4341 systems will do quite nicely. In fact, they can provide about 10 per cent more instruction execution capacity than the 3033 offers. If a full complement of storage is installed on each of the three 4341 (8 megs. at this time) processors then the total 24 megabytes will provide 50 percent more memory than the 3033 makes available. With respect to the I/O capabilities, three 4341 systems together offer 50 per cent more channels than does the 3033.

... The final arbiter in many acquisition proposals is the price. Three 4341 group 2 systems have a total cost of about $1.5 million. If another $500,000 is included for additional equipment to support the sharing of the disk, tape and other devices among the three processors, the total comes to $2 million. The potential saving over the cost of installing a 3033 exceeds $500,000.

--------------------------------------------------

of course Adessa offers a VM/SP enhancement known as Single System Image (SSI) ... making it possible to operate multiple VM machines as a single system.


... snip ... top of post, old email index, HONE email

And this old email mentions that with slight tweak, 4341 channels supported 3mbyte/sec ... 3033 used the "channel director", which was 370/158 engine running integrated channel microcode and w/o 370 instruction microcode, and incapable of supporting 3mbyte/sec operation.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email810617
in this post
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#36

other old email mentioning 43xx machines
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx

recent posts about head of POK feeling the 3033 competition from 4341 machines got corporate allocation of critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#66
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#22

I don't remember all details for Adessa SSI ... but there were two virtual machine based (starting with cp67 in the 60s) commercial online time-sharing service bureaus ... and that by 1976 at least one had SSI and live guest migration. The scenario was that they provided 7x24 service and mainframes still required scheduled maintenance downtime. They had loosely-coupled configuration where they could do live guest migration to allow systems to be taken offline for maintenance downtime. They even claimed to be able to do live guest migration between datacenter on the east coast and datacenter on the west coast.

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ISBNs

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 11:37:20 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Code inspection is just one small step of ensuring security. Inspecting compiler code is less secure than inspecting machine lanugage; but nobody does the latter anymore.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#40 ISBNs

there are periodic references to "snake oil" ... proprietary code that isn't subject to inspection and makes extravagant claims that seem unlikely. it isn't necessarily the case of of purposeful attempts at security breaks ... but trying to sell a product that doesn't actually meet the claims.

a twist on this is form of of social engineering ... internet mail about necessicity to install a specific product (possily anti-virus or other kind of security product) ... which actually turns out to be purposefully malicious

a variation is deployment of SSL/TLS. we had worked with on cluster-scale-up for both commercial and numerical intensive some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
and old post regarding Jan92 meeting in Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

within a couple weeks of the meeting, the cluster scale-up effort is transferred and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors ... and a couple weeks later, it is announced as supercomputer. A few months later we leave the corporation.

two of the other people at the meeting, leave some time later and join a small client/server startup and are responsible for something called the "commerce server". We are brought in to consult because they want to do payment transactions on the server; the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they want to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Part of the activity was doing audits and walk-thrus of these new businness calling themselves certification authorities and selling SSL domain name digital certifications. There were also various security requirements regarding how SSL was implemented, deployed and used. Almost immediately, there were several deviations ... and very early on I coined the term "comfort certificates" to try and differentiate from true security and (comfort from) the appareance of security. misc. past posts mentioning SSL domain name digital certificates
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts

misc. past posts mentioning fraud, vulnerabilities, threats and exploits
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

some past posts specifically mentioning man-in-the-middle attacks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#mitm

some past posts mentioning snake oil
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#18 Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#23 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#26 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#27 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#28 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#29 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#30 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#31 Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#49 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#51 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#52 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#0 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#1 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#2 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#3 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#5 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#6 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#7 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#10 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#1 Brit banks introduce delays on interbank xfers due to phishing boom
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#54 Trust Facade
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#18 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#2 No command, and control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#94 The Curly Factor -- Prologue

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CMS load module format

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 4 Oct 2011 09:06:45 -0700
shmuel+ibm-main@PATRIOT.NET (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
That worked on more than the 3270 family; it also worked on the console[1] of the 360/168.

[1] Compatible with nonthing except the consoles of the 360/85 and 370/165.


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#36 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#42 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#44 CMS load module format

I had done something similar as undergraduate in the 60s with a 2250m1 vector graphics (aka channel attached) for cp67/cms. Lincoln Labs had done a fortran subroutine 2250 driver library for cms ... and I borrowed their code for the editor.

this is 2250m4 (i.e. 2250m1 was 360 channel attached with controller, for about the same price as 2250m1, you could get a 2250m4 which came with a 1130 in the package ... in place of the controller box)
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2250.html
another image of 2250
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2250-ad.gif
360/91 had 2250 as operators terminal
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/36091.html

for other drift, cambridge science center (did virtual machines cp/40, cp/67, lots of online applications, invented GML ... which later morphs into SGML & HTML ... early performance work that turns into capacity planning, bunch of other stuff)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

had 2250m4 (aka w/1130) and there was version of spacewars implemented
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

misc. past posts mentioning having modified cp67/cms editor to drive 2250-1 vector graphics:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#41 A word processor from 1960
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#22 When did full-screen come to VM/370?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#20 6600 Console was Re: CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#22 Computer Terminal Design Over the Years
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#73 They Got Mail: Not-So-Fond Farewells
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#64 Graphics on the IBM 2260?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#22 Where should the type information be?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#45 Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#28 MCTS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#62 PC premiered 40 years ago to awed crowd
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#0 tty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#13 An Interview with Watts Humphrey, Part 6: The IBM 360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#57 An Interview with Watts Humphrey, Part 6: The IBM 360
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#11 Information on obscure text editors wanted
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#45 My first mainframe experience
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#4 Announcement of the disk drive (1956)

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ISBNs

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:15:20 -0400
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#40 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#48 ISBNs

the science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

would distribute (virtual machine) cp67/cms in source ... and in fact, distributed mantenance in source form. This continued in the morph from cp67 to vm370. there were some customers that were particularly interested in this (reference from long ago and far away, i didn't learn about these guys until much later):
https://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

a decade later, there is folklore that same group asked the corporation for source for their mainstream, POK favorite-son, "batch" operating system ... that would *exactly* correspond to any specific executing release. the corporation supposedly spent several millions investigating the issues and eventually came back with the answer that it wouldn't be practical. a couple past references:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#47 Anniversaries
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#72 Linux versioning file system
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#68 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#63 Source code for s/360 [PUBLIC]
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#61 z/OS System Programmer Needed East Coast
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#13 program coding pads

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CMS load module format

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS load module format
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 4 Oct 2011 09:51:58 -0700
shmuel+ibm-main@PATRIOT.NET (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Yes, but could you enter macro invocations in the prefix area, or only predefined line commands? XEDIT had prefix macros and a SET PENDING command so that a prefix macro could insert macro invocations into the prefix areas, to be acted on at the next ENTER. Did EDGAR have an equivalent?

I hardly used EDGAR at all, using RED & NED (for files larger than virtual memory size) ... so don't really know. Something in the (edgar) SOS description talks about pushing keystrokes for later invokation ... but I never got that intimate with EDGAR (whether or not that would result in something similar)

past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#34 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#36 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#41 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#42 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#44 CMS load module format
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#49 CMS load module format

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Chinese researchers say early climate changes responsible for human crisis

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 4 Oct, 2011
Subject: Chinese researchers say early climate changes responsible for human crisis
Blog: Facebook
Chinese researchers say early climate changes responsible for human crisis
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-10-chinese-early-climate-responsible-human.html

I recently finished a couple of Jared Diamond books which frequently have similar theme ("Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" and "Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies")

"Iconoclast A Neuroscientist Reveals How to Think Differently" (Berns) spends some amount on modern human brain optimized to minimize energy use. Some other recent articles are that human relatives with larger brains have died out. Natural selection might be that their calories/day requirement was much larger (brain being heavy energy use) which wouldn't have been survival selection during ice ages (and such events) ... giving modern humans survival advantage.

misc. past posts mentioning Diamond &/or Berns:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#7 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#39 The FreeWill instruction
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#78 subscripti ng
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#46 Leaving the world of standard operating procedures
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#50 Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#7 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#14 Innovation and iconoclasm
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#59 Why did the OODA-loop tactic grow into a strategy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#61 Why did the OODA-loop tactic grow into a strategy?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#1 Lessons Learned
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#10 Preparing for Boyd II
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#88 Justifying application of Boyd to a project manager
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#44 Kabuki Theater 1603-1629
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#46 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#54 Why stability trumps innovation

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ISBNs

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:14:51 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
there are periodic references to "snake oil" ... proprietary code that isn't subject to inspection and makes extravagant claims that seem unlikely. it isn't necessarily the case of of purposeful attempts at security breaks ... but trying to sell a product that doesn't actually meet the claims.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#48 ISBNs

here is item from today:

Security by obscurity not so bad after all, argues prof
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/05/security_by_obscurity/

One of the counters is that security by obscurity in a product could put it out at millions of locations that might be under attack by thousands of tens of thousands of different entities ... obscurity will frequently fall quickly to such an onslaught ... and if obscurity is the primary security measure ... that leaves large numbers defenseless ... aka "naked" or frequently the "emperor's new clothes" analogy.

"security by obscurity" is frequently used by "snake oil" to try and deflect criticism ... and therefor has become suspect.

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Any candidates for best acronyms?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 6 Oct, 2011
Subject: Any candidates for best acronyms?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#55 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#60 Any candidates for best acronyms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#15 Any candidates for best acronyms?

BITNET came to mean "Because It's Time Network", although the original meaning was "Because It's There Network".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

.... university network version of the internal VNET ... misc old VNET related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

EARN European Academic Research Network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Academic_Research_Network

European version of BITNET and internal VNET. old email regarding formation of EARN
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320

...

SSL - Secure Socket Layer

We were working on cluster scale-up for numerical intensive and commercial. We were working with some people at Oracle on commercial cluster scale-up. This is old post referencing a Jan92 meeting in Ellison's conference room
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

Within a month of the Jan92 meeting, the project was transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors (a week or so later it was announced as supercomputer for numerical intensive only) ... which contributes to us leaving a few months later. Two of the other people in the Ellison meeting also leave and join a small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We get brought in because they wanted to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

...

HACMP - High Availability Cluster Multi-Processing

some ibm hacmp reference
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD101347
wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_High_Availability_Cluster_Multiprocessing
old HA/CMP reference
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/aix/administrator/highavailability/HACMP-Long-Distance-Data-Replication-and-Failover/

we had started the effort in the 80s as ha/6000 for commercial availability. however, as i got more & more involved in cluster scale-up, I coined a marketing term that attempted to capture both the commercial and the numerical intensive characteristics (or course this was before the cluster scale-up was transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors). misc. past posts mentioning ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

old email that references some of the cluster scale-up activity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

Before the effort was transferred, I had been asked to write a section for corporation Continuous Availability strategy document ... the section got pulled after both Rochester and POK complained that they couldn't meet the objectives.

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Any candidates for best acronyms?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 6 Oct, 2011
Subject: Any candidates for best acronyms?
Blog: Greater IBM
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#60 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#65 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#69 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#34 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#57 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#73 Who was the Greatest IBM President and CEO of the last century

We use to attend some meetings in Purchase ... shortly after the building was acquired by IBM (had been built as new hdqtrs for food company, they had a downturn and IBM had opportunity to acquire the nearly completed bldg for ten cents on the dollar; there was comment that completion was halted on things like the covered walkway from the garage to the entrance).

Later in the 90s, we (had left and) were having meetings with company in Manhattan. They were in the process of acquiring the Purchase bldg. and moving in. The meetings moved to the Purchase bldg. the first week they moved in. One of their comments was that the seller had new CEO that was in for a turn-around period with compensation tied to specific goals and that there was selling of assets that was effectively treated as revenue (regardless of assets listed/appraised value). That explained why they were able to get the bldg for 10 cents on the dollar for what the seller had paid (about 1% of the original cost) ... they commented that replacing all the door handles on interior doors cost more than what they paid for the bldg. Later ran into somebody that referenced that some of this was similar to the early 70s when the customer machine install base was converted from lease/rent to purchase.

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Steve Jobs passed away

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Steve Jobs passed away
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 18:35:05 -0400
Bernard Peek <bap@shrdlu.com> writes:
The Apple II was a big part of a microscopic market. To a first approximation there were no consumer personal computers before the introduction of white box IBM PC compatible clones almost all of which used MS-DOS. In the UK the tipping point was probably the introduction of the Amstrad PCW rather than their later IBM clone.

early machines tended to be techies and/or hobbiests. commodore eventually had significant volume

old article mentioning market numbers: Total share: 30 years of personal computer market share figures
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share/

there was also more detailed numbers ... but has gone 404 ... and while at one time it was at wayback machine ... it no longer exists there either www.wowdailynews.com/pegasus/total_share.html

this graphs 1975-1980:
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//3

this graphs 1980-1984:
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share/4/

and 1984-1987
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//5

1987-1990
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//6

1990-1994
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//7

1994-2001
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//8

share 1975-2005
http://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share//10

misc. past posts mentioning my brother was regional apple marketing rep (largest physical region in conus) and sometimes I got to go to apple business dinners ... even arguing about design of mac with mac developers ... before mac was announced.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#21 Unpacking my 15-year old office boxes generates memory refreshes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#24 computers and stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#29 computers and stuff
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#66 unix
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#44 Mainframe Emulation Solutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#14 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#46 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#47 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#21 Tru64 and the DECSYSTEM 20
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#28 Canon Cat for Sale
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#8 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#56 old lisa info
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#3 The Genealogy of the IBM PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#4 The Genealogy of the IBM PC
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#68 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#63 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#17 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#32 IBM THINK original equipment sign
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#5 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#16 Orwellian Apple ad celebrates 25th birthday
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#9 Existence of early 360 software ( was Re: Continous Systems Modelling Packa
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#80 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#11 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#12 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#14 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#38 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!

misc. other past posts mentioning commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#20 Systems software versus applications software definitions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#37 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#39 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#40 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#32 transputers again was: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#40 transputers again was: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#43 transputers again was: The demise of Commodore
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#63 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#0 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#12 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#76 Why Didn't Digital Catch the Wave?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#18 Remembering the Cray-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#15 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#19 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#21 Disksize history question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#68 The Rise and Fall of Commodore

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ISBNs

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ISBNs
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:13:47 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
they also have trojans that run inside the browser ... where it simulates lots of the bank's browser environment and performs fraudulent transactions within the user's own banking environment ... fiddling the banking screens so that the fraudulent transactions don't show up and doing things like keeping the balance from reflecting the fraudulent transactions. they also try to infect any corresponding smartphone to eliminate any out-of-band transaction notifications

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#40 ISBNs

latest on out-of-band transaction notifications

SpyEye banking trojan: now with SMS hijacking capability; One-time passwords zapped to fraudsters
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/banking_trojan_steals_sms/

there had been earlier reports that zeus was also doing this ... aka posts from year ago
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#47 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#49 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bnak SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#77 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#1 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#17 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam

other pieces of this thread:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#48 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#50 ISBNs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#53 ISBNs

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computer bootlaces

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:12:37 -0400
i believe they had been just special forces (somewhat to differentiate from the rest of the army) ... it was 2000 when army decided to have everybody wear them (somewhat trading on the special forces cache/mystique). it was possibly month or so ago that there was announcement returning to caps.

a news synopsis from late 2000:
Also, the Army will switch to Black Berets for all servicemen (SF will keep their Green, and intel their Red.) Supposed to reflect the Army's new SOP, lighter, more flexible troops. Speaking of which, 3rd Tank battalion just turned in their M-1 Abrams for lighter British/Canadian Armored vehicles, until their "interim" vehicle is completed (~2006) which might be as low as 20 tons (M-1 is 70 tons). Allowing it to be transported on the C-130. Only problem is if they come up against well placed artillery or a nice T-80 or even a T-72. M-1 also requires a hell of a lot of support lines which need to be well reinforced... including the fact that most bridges in third world countries can't support multiple 70-ton tanks moving across them. during the 70's after the M-1 was introduced major bridge reinforcement took place in Western Europe to support the drive East of the German stationed divisions.

... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning abrams
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#13 mainframe question
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#27 Controversial paper - Good response article on ZDNet
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#12 Moving assembler programs above the line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#16 WSJ.com - IBM Puts Executive on Leave
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#34 360 programs on a z/10
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#51 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#57 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#14 Innovation and iconoclasm

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From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 7 Oct, 2011
Subject: From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
Blog: IBM Historic Computing
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#47 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

recent snip/post from ibm-main (JES2 spool):
I believe there's support for migration between spool volumes in R13. The miscreants in my shop keep stuff on the spool for *years*, making it impossible for me to completely drain spool volumes without an outage. Looking forward to trying out the new function.

... snip ...

the virtual machine based commercial time-sharing service bureaus had loosely-coupled, SSI, live guest migration *AND* (vm) spool migration in the mid-70s.

this old email mentions science center migrating from cp67 to vm370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212

and getting two BU students to help me. The software included page migration and "swaptable" migration (basically virtual memory tables that included location of pages on disk). Both BU students graduated and one joined one of the virtual machine based commercial time-sharing service bureaus. He recreated the code he worked on for vm370 (before I shipped them in customer product) and extended the page migration to support spool migration (part of support being able to take components offline for service) and extended the "swaptable" migration (i.e. remove virtual machine control blocks from storage to disk) for all virtual machine control blocks ... which was then leveraged to implement live guest migration (i.e. page out all information about virtual machine guest ... and then page it back in on another machine).

for other drift, reference to having finished the migration to vm370 and creating "csc/vm" for distribution to large number of internal datacenters
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

past posts on the topic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

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How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 7 Oct, 2011
Subject: How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
Blog: Mainframe Experts
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#35 How old is the oldest email in your current email inbox?
and:
http://lnkd.in/E9K2p6

PROFS group had picked up very early version of VMSG for the email client (0.60? version or so). Later when the VMSG author offered the PROFS group source for much more current 1.+ version with lot more function, the PROFS group attempted to get him fired (they apparently had earlier claimed credit for the VMSG source). The whole thing quieted down when the VMSG author pointed out that every PROFS note in the world, carried his initials in a non-displayed field. After that, the VMSG author limited his source to two other people (me and one other).

PROFS morphs into OFFICEVISION
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_OfficeVision

CCDN involved SNA. The internal network was not SNA ... but was VNET/RSCS ... also done at the cambridge science center (responsible for virtual machines, invention of GML which later morphed into SGML & HTML; and lots of performance and online work). Upthread wiki reference to RSCS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSCS

Part of the VM & PROFS infrastructures was that there was frequent datacenter tape backups of both servers and clients. While somebody may have deleted an email from their client ... it would still exist on numerous datacenter backups tapes. Recently on ibm-main mailing list there was discussion of the enormous security clearance required for somebody to examine executive branch backup tapes looking for material demanded by the congressional subpoenas.

the internal network was larger than the internet from just about the beginning until possibly late 85 or early 86. At the time that arpanet switched to tcp/ip (internetworking protocol) on 1jan83, the arpanet had approx. 100 IMP network nodes ... off of which hung possibly 255 hosts ... and the internal network was rapidly approaching 1000 host network nodes (lots of them vm/4341 running vnet/rscs). some old internal network related email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

old reference to internal network passing 1000 nodes in 1983:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

the above post also contains a list of all corporate locations around the world that had one or more new network nodes added during 1983.

In the late 80s, there was a monumental effort to convert the internal network links to SNA ... ignoring all suggestions that it would be much more productive and efficient to convert internal network links to tcp/ip. The vnet/backbone meetings become restricted to management ... not wanting the SNA conversion effort to be polluted by technical input.
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306

and earlier related email mentioning that there was lots of misinformation being spread as part of justifying converting internal network links to SNA
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302

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JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Oct 2011 15:32:12 -0700
jrobert6@DHS.STATE.IA.US (Roberts, John J) writes:
I'm surprised the old-timers didn't comment on my mention of APL. This was the original "write-only" language - maintenance was only possible by the original author. It was very heavily touted by IBM in the early 70's.

somewhat because of litigation, 23jun69 unbundling announcement started charging for application software (but case was made that kernel software would still be free), se services, maintenance, etc.

up until then a lot of se training was journeyman/apprentice as part of large groups of SEs at customer site. after 23jun69, nobody could figure out how to have all that SE training using customer resources w/o charging the customer for it. to address the issue several cp67 virtual machine datacenters were created to provide branch office SEs ability to login remotely and practice guest operating system in virtual machine. This was the HONE system ... some past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
and some old email
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone

the science center ... some past posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

besides virtual machines, internal network, a bunch of other stuff, also ported apl\360 to cms for cms\apl. cms\apl workspaces were now as large as virtual address space size (which required rewriting how apl managed it workspace allocation) as compared to common 16k or 32kbytes in apl\360 ... also an API was added to cms\apl that allowed invoking cms system services like file i/o.

The combination allowed cms\apl to be used for real-world applications ... for instance the business planners in armonk loaded the most valuable of corporate information (detailed customer data) on the cambridge system and implemented business models in cms\apl. This required some security issues since the cambridge cp67/cms system was also used by some number of non-employees from various educational institutions in the boston/cambridge area.

HONE also started offering marketing&sales applications implemented in cms\apl. Eventually the sales&marketing use began to dominate all HONE use and the virtual guest use died off. By the mid-70s *ALL* mainframe orders had to be first processed by HONE aids&configurators ... all implemented in APL (and HONE virtual machine clones were started to sprout up all over the world).

HONE was part of the sales&marketing organization and periodically some branch manager would be promoted into executive position that included responsibility for HONE ... and they would find to the horror that the company (especially sales&marketing) ran on vm370 (not *MVS*). They would come to believe that their career in the corporation would be made if they could convert HONE to MVS. A huge amount of resources would go into a MVS migration attempt and eventually fail ... then there would eventually be executive shuffle and the whole thing forgotten until the next new executive.

Recent (linkedin) discussion about several features implemented for the HONE vm370 operation in the late 70s, that are finally in the process of being included in zVM ... aka from the annals of release no software before its time:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#47 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#59 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

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JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Oct 2011 17:05:04 -0700
ps2os2@YAHOO.COM (Ed Gould) writes:
My memory sort of agrees with the above and I will accept your memory.

We used to have a full time SE from sometime in 196x's to the mid-late 1970's.

My recollection from talking with him was that HONE was used for all configuration(s). Was that not the case? I still remember (albeit vaguely ) looking at some output (paper) from a hone session and being asked about memory and the like.


re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

original apl\360 would allocate next unused storage on every assignment .... when it exhausted all of (workspace) storage ... it would "garbage collect" and coalesce all allocated variables to bottom of the workspace. this resulted in apl\360 repeatedly using every storage location in the workspace ... even for small problems ... as long as there were assignments (didn't re-use previous allocated storage for variable). for small workspaces (16k or 32k bytes) ... that were completely swapped ... it didn't really matter.

moving to cms\apl with demand-paged "virtual" workspace that was hundreds of kbytes or multiple megabytes ... constantly touching every possible workspace location led to page thrashing. one of the first things that needed to be redone for cms\apl was redo how apl managed its workspace storage.

HONE APL executable image was shared across all cms virtual machines ... reducing aggregate real storage footprint. Later work was done to include significant pieces of APL workspace/programs in shared segments ... further reducing real storage footprint.

APL is an interpreted language ... after doing lots of work to optimize virtual paging and aggregate real storage footprint ... APL remained computational intensive. That contributed to HONE having growing number of high-end multiprocessors in loosely-coupled, single-system-image configuration ... which had front-end process that did load-balancing logon (slightly analogous to web search engines spreading load across available systems).

Many sales&marketing people spent their entire time in a session manager implemented in APL (and automatically invoked at login) called "SEQUIOA" ... and never or rarely directly exposed to vm370/cms. Eventually for some of the heavily used, most compute intensive "configurators" ... they were recoded in FORTRAN and a process created that allowed APL to invoked FORTRAN programs as sub-program ... which could achieve a factor of 100 times reduction in processor use.

There was some growing/emerging native CMS use for writing (customer) proposals, RFP responses and other document preparation ... as well as growing use of email (like PROFS). recent (linkedin) discussion about PROFS (and the internal network)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#60

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JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Oct 2011 17:46:39 -0700
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
APL is an interpreted language ... after doing lots of work to optimize virtual paging and aggregate real storage footprint ... APL remained computational intensive. That contributed to HONE having growing number of high-end multiprocessors in loosely-coupled, single-system-image configuration ... which had front-end process that did load-balancing logon (slightly analogous to web search engines spreading load across available syustems).

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#62 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

at the science center, there was a lot of performance algorithm, tuning, monitoring, simulation and modeling work ... some of it eventually evolving into things like capacity planning.

one of the efforts was an system performance analytical model implemented in APL. A version of this was modified for HONE that was fed system activity from all the loosely-coupled systems and used to decide which machine each login should be directed to.

a different variation was made available on HONE as the performance predictor .... branch people could gather customer workload and system characteristics and input into the performance predictor and ask "what-if" questions ... like what would happen in the case of customer workload and/or system configuration changes.

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JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Oct 2011 21:32:44 -0700
glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes:
I once had PL/I (F) running on an AT/370, about 5 minutes to compiler a five line program.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#62 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#63 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)

xt/370 & at/370 was motorola 68k fiddled to execute 370 instructions at about 100kips. the original cardset had 384k bytes of 370 memory ... which ran special modified vm370 kernel plus the real storage for demand paging of cms. the 370 card had no i/o ... vm370 was modified to send messages to cp88 running on the intel chip ... and all i/o was done by cp88 running on the pc side ... and then transfers between vm370 and cp88.

it started out code-named "washington" and the pc/xt had 100ms per transfer disk ... each page transfer or cms file record transfer took 100ms on pc/xt hard disk (maximum aggregate rate would be less than 10 transfer per second with vm370/cp88 overhead & transferlatency). After fix vm370 kernel ... there was very little left of the 384k bytes for paging cms and application virtual memory ... resulting in page thrashing. I benchmarked and showed significant page thrashing even for realy trivial operations.

I got blamed for six month schedule slip in washington while they re-engineered the cards to add another 128kbytes of 370 memory (increase from 384kbytes to 512kbytes) to minimize virtual memory page thrashing (i done a bunch of benchmarks showing page thrashing)

pli compiler would have both significant virtual memory thrashing (even with the additional 128kbyte real storage ... i don't remember exactly now ... but vm370 fixed kernel storage was possibly something like 150kbytes ... with 512kbyte real storage ... that would leave approx. 350kbytes of real storage for cms virtual memory ... the cms kernel, cms system services ... and the pli compiler and data areas.

the upgrade from xt/370 to at/370 met that cp88 ran on somewhat faster processor and the hard disks were faster ... 5 minutes is 300 seconds ... say if you are lucky maybe 15 disk record transfers per second ... 4500 disk record transfers ... which is page thrashing, loading pli compiler execution, and all other file i/o.

A big issue was that cms was relatively bloated in terms of its use of file i/o ... and all of the cms compilers were brought over from mvs using simulation of systerm services ... which were really bloated in terms of use of file i/o. remapping that environment to a PC ... using PC disks instead of mainframe disks was quite tramatic ... compared to similar applications developed specifically for pc environment.

Even running applications that fit in the available 370 real storage (and didn't page thrash) ... the 100kip 370 processor wasn't usually the bottleneck ... it was the enormous difference between thruput of mainframe disks and pc disks. Of course that wouldn't be a problem these days because both PCs and mainframes use the same disk technology ... PCs using native disk technolgy and many mainframes using emulated CKD on top of native disks (there hasn't been real ckd disks for decades).

I did some prototype work for washington with my cms paged mapped filesystem for washington ... on mainframe with 3380 i could possible three times improved (300%) throughput compared to standard cms filesystem for applications that did moderate amounts of file i/o. ... but still couldn't achieve look&feel of cms with real mainframe disks. misc. past posts mentioning memory mapped filesystem for cms ... orginally done for cp67 and then ported to vm370
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

follow-on to at/370 was a74 ... separate box with 4mbytes of 370 real storage and 350kip processor. old long-winded post that includes copy of A74 product description at the bottom
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#4

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Can anyone offer some insight

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 8 Oct, 2011
Subject: Can anyone offer some insight
Blog: Boyd Strategy
re:
http://lnkd.in/R-ZqQc

Spinney's account of energy-maneuverability calculations (in "Genghis John", 9oct1998 proceedings of US naval institute) is similar but different than how Boyd told it ... copy
http://radio-weblogs.com/0107127/stories/2002/12/23/genghisJohnChuckSpinneysBioOfJohnBoyd.html

John would tell it that the F15 forces knew he was doing the calculations and stealing millions of dollars in gov. supercomputer time (as part of design for competitive F16). They went to the sec. of airforce and wanted Boyd prosecuted for the theft and thrown in Leavenworth for the rest of his life. After several months of investigation they couldn't find any proof and gave up.

Possible to slightly needle me for being from IBM Research ... Boyd would tell being at some fed. science advisery board meeting and a physicist from IBM Research disagreed with something in energy-maneuverability graphics ... and Boyd took the opportunity to explain to him where he was wrong.

from Genghis John
The high-powered YF-16 could regain energy very quickly, and although the E-M calculations had led to the high thrust-to-weight designs of the lightweight fighters, the tactical effects of the added power were not fully appreciated during the design stage. During the flyoff, however, the pilots learned by trial and error to take advantage of this power by evolving quick energy-dumping as well as quick energy-pumping tactics. The energy-maneuverability theory could not predict the tactical advantages accruing from such fast-transient maneuvers, and it is a tribute to Boyd's iron discipline and integrity that he uncovered the limitations of the very theory that made him a world-renowned designer.

... snip ...

as in my comment about Goodby OODA-loop article, Boyd would talk about the various parts of OODA-loop all running concurrently and continuously ... and also looking at ("observing") from all possible facets ... rather than concentrating on some specific characteristic.
http://lnkd.in/7EWnUF
and
http://armedforcesjournal.com/2011/10/6777464

I've periodically characterized some of the conversations with John as needing to concurrently engaging both hemispheres. I've known a person that was born w/o one brain hemisphere ... they grew up and the single hemisphere was able to compensate for many things ... most people possibly not even realizing the condition. One comment they made was they were totally unable to process a graphical map ... to get from one place to another ... they had to be given sequential step-by-step operations for them to be able understand. I've periodically drawn an analogy with interpreting OODA-loop as sequential step-by-step process

boyd talks about continuously looking from every facet ... example is fitting a theory and adding new things to the theory. as cross-over from Goodby OODA-loop post ... pure trial&error may be done w/o bothering with context or theory .... pure stimulus/response. E-M theory produced the high thrust planes ... but Boyd didn't anticipate all possible results of the change in environment. Operating in the changed environment allowed learning things that hadn't previously been anticipated.

In the 70s there were some commercial airplane accidents by non-US pilots flying their own country flagship airlines. There was claim that some number of these foreign carriers brought in former US korean/vietnam fighter pilots as captains (demoting all the native-born to co-pilots). The claim was that the native born had all been brought up to fly pure rote operations by the rule book ... where the US fighter pilots had learned to dynamically adapt. There were comments that then many of the US captains flying foreign carriers felt some anxiety because their foreign-born co-pilots were constantly looking over their shoulder for mistakes (or at least violation of rules) ... which they would report.

I believe one example was a JAL 747 that landed short of the SFO runway ... in the bay ... it was shallow at that point ... and had a 747 sitting in the bay.

Feed forward/back is part of updating the context or mental model (aka orientation).

Boyd references & posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Goodbye, OODA-Loop

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 8 Oct, 2011
Subject: Goodbye, OODA-Loop
Blog: Boyd Strategy
Goodbye, OODA-Loop
http://armedforcesjournal.com/2011/10/6777464

from above:
This concept was captured by Air Force Col. John Boyd's decision loop: observe, orient, decide and act. In this OODA-Loop, an endless cycle in which each action restarts the observe phase, it is implied that collecting information would allow you to decide independent of acting. Also implied is the notion that you can determine measures of effectiveness against which to observe each action's movement toward achievement of your goal so you can reorient.

... snip ...

This ignores Boyd's description of constantly observing from every possible facet as well as all cycles running concurrently
http://lnkd.in/7EWnUF

There is scenario that when people have no knowledge ... they may make huge numbers of random changes ... observing results each time ... arriving at particular combinations that appear to work better than other combinations. Primitive societies then translate into observe-rule-act sequence ... w/o any intelligence, knowledge, orientation, decision. slight x-over with post in this related discussion
http://lnkd.in/R-ZqQc
and
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#65 Can anyone offer some insight

some personality profiles even characterize types of people as whether they prefer observer-rule-act mode over OODA. One of the scenarios is that in stable environment possibly spanning centuries ... observe-rule-act can be more energy efficient than OODA ... since there can be excess energy use to really determine if it is still the same (rather than implicit that nothing changes). However, things can rapidly go downhill in a changing environment.

Boyd references & posts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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NeXT, give Steve a little credit for the Web

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: NeXT, give Steve a little credit for the Web
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:33:30 -0400
NeXT, give Steve a little credit for the Web
http://notes.technologists.com/notes/2011/10/08/next-give-steve-a-little-credit-for-the-web/

NeXT wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT_Computer

reference to HTML morphing from SGML (and originally GML) at CERN
http://infomesh.net/html/history/early/

GML originally invented at the science center in 1969 ... and then morphs into SGML a decade later ... and HTML a decade after that
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml

misc. past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

and first webserver in the US, on SLAC's VM370 system:
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml

MACH used by NeXT and then later at Apple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28kernel%29

above mentions Mach as one of the earliest examples of a microkernel. I've claimed that (virtual machine) CP40 at the science center in the mid-60s was an earlier example. CP40 then morphs into CP67 and later VM370.

IBM and DEC had funded MIT's Project Athena equally to the tune of $25M ... but IBM had also funded CMU (Mach, Camelot, Andrew widgets, Andrew filesystem) $50M. I've joked that IBM had paid for Camelot part at least three times ... once with the original CMU funding, once with seed money for Transarc spin-off, and 3rd time buying Transarc outright

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Bernanke Hearings

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 9 Oct, 2011
Subject: Bernanke Hearings
Blog: Facebook
In congressional hearings, frequently members of congress take nearly all their allocated time to pontificate leaving possibly 30secs for an answer. In Bernanke hearing Oct 4th, somebody asked why hasn't wall street been prosecuted and started to pontificate about Pecora hearings from the 30s. Bernanke cut-in and pointed out that congress had an opportunity to hold similar hearings and didn't do anything. Early 2009 I was asked to take the recently scanned Pecora hearings, html'ize with lots of internal hrefs as well as links between what happened then and what happened this time (some anticipation that the new congress would have some appetite to do something). After working on it for a couple months, got a call saying that it wouldn't be needed after all.

Bernanke made reference that congress had opportunity to do something about wallstreet the spring of 2009 and abdicated their responsibility

This week on GPS: Tom Friedman, Michael Lewis and Starbucks CEO on the U.S. economy
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/08/this-week-on-gps-tom-friedman-michael-lewis-and-starbucks-ceo-on-the-u-s-economy/

With regard to $40T-$60T deficit (including unfunded mandates), after the fiscal responsibility act was allowed to expire late 2002 and the resulting congressional fiscal irresponsibility shortly thereafter, the Fed comptroller general would make references to nobody in congress being capable of middle school arithmetic.

A few past posts mentioning Pecora hearings:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#43 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#53 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#42 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#45 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#20 Study shows powerful corporations really do control the world's finances

A few past posts mentioning fiscal responsibility act:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#15 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#22 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#23 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#28 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#29 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#33 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#38 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#40 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#18 Congressional Bickering
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#8 The True Cost of 9/11 -- Includes 18 Veteran Suicides a Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#36 The Next Convergence: The Future of Economic Growth in a Multispeed World
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#59 computer bootlaces

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"Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 10 Oct, 2011
Subject: "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
Blog: Old Geek
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#27 "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
and
http://lnkd.in/DGb2En

In the 80s, we accused the FSD (federal systems division) of all becoming GML/SGML/script programmers ... because all they seemed to do was write proposals. GML was invented at the science center in 1969, a decade later it morphs into SGML ... and another decade, it morphs into HTML. misc. past posts:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml

somewhat because of gov. litigation, there was 23jun69 unbundling announcement, the company started charging for application software (although the company managed to make the case that kernel software was still free), SE services, maintenance services, etc. Previous new SEs got their training as journeyman/apprentice as part of group of SEs at the customer location ... but after unbundling there was no way to justification charging for trainee SEs at customer location. misc. past posts mentioning unbundling
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

Virtual machine based (also originated at the science center) HONE datacenters for SEs at branch office to login and practice their guest operating system skills.

Science center also ported apl360 to cms for cmsapl. The storage management and garbage collection had to be redone for large virtual memory ... also there was API to invoke cms system services. cmsapl was used to start offering apl-based sales&marketing support appllcations. Eventually APL-based sales&marketing support tools came to dominate all HONE activity .... with guest operating system use died off. HONE clones then were propagated all over the world ... customers orders even had to be first processed by (APL-based) HONE applications. misc. past posts mentioning HONE
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
misc past posts mentioning science center
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

trivia ... GML are the first letters of the last name of the three inventors ... generalized markup language was then chosen to match their initials.

Besides the internal HONE system ... there were a number of (cp67 virtual machine) commercial time-sharing service bureaus from the 60s. Reference here to "A Brief History of Fourth Generation Languages"
http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/tales/history.html

RAMIS from Mathematica ... exclusive on one of those services ... from above:
One could say PRINT ACROSS MONTH SUM SALES BY DIVISION and receive a report that would have taken many hundreds of lines of Cobol to produce. The product grew in capability and in revenue, both to NCSS and to Mathematica, who enjoyed increasing royalty payments from the sizable customer base.

... snip ...

RAMIS wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_Software

Then spinoffs FOCUS and NOMAD. NOMAD wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
FOCUS Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS

More NOMAD references:
http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/

as aside, original relational/SQL was also developed on virtual machine platform (VM370 successor to cp67) at SJR in the 70s ... misc. past posts mentioning System/R
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

misc. past posts mentioning RAMIS, NOMAD, FOCUS:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#64 Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#69 Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#56 10 choices that were critical to the Net's success
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#15 CA-RAMIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#17 CA-RAMIS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#48 Who said DAT?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#12 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#15 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#15 Pre-relational, post-relational, 1968 CODASYL "Survey of Data Base Systems"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#52 Losing colonies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#44 Shipwrecks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#35 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37 PDP-1
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#37 Quote from comp.object
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#17 Newbie question on table design
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#66 Computer History Museum
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#40 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#54 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#55 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#58 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#21 What non-IBM software products have been most significant to the mainframe's success
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#26 Global Sourcing with Cloud Computing and Virtualization
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#63 VMSHARE Archives
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#55 Maybe off topic

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:29:32 -0400
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
Rangers.

re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#58

Green Berets and Rangers: What's the Difference?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/09/green_berets_and_rangers_whats_the_difference.html

Special Forces Groups - Green Berets
http://www.groups.sfahq.com/

wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_%28United_States_Army%29

beret history
http://www.army.mil/features/beret/beret.htm

Army backtracks on black berets after more than a decade of debate
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-13/us/army.beret_1_black-beret-green-berets-tan-beret?_s=PM:US

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Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 10 Oct, 2011
Subject: Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
Blog: Facebook
Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-10/don-t-dump-the-volcker-rule-just-because-it-will-be-far-from-perfect-view.html

Came with GLBA and the repeal of Glass-Steagall

GLBA combined a hodge-podge of special provisions for financial industry (besides repealing Glass-Steagall) ... including walling off Walmart and Microsoft from getting bank charters (a big concern of large financial institutions at the time) and "opt-out" privacy provision as federal preemption of the pending cal. "opt-in" privacy legislation. They were too late to preempt cal. data breach notification legislation ... although in the decade+ since, there have numerous fed. data breach notifications bills introduced that would effectively eliminate notification requirements (none have yet to pass).

past posts mentioning GLBA and/or Glass-Steagall:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#44 Does the Data Protection Act of 2005 Make Sense
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#25 garlic.com
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#39 On sci.crypt: New attacks on the financial PIN processing
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#72 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#6 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#44 Education ranking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#45 Education ranking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#94 folklore indeed
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#47 Data Erasure Products
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#4 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#73 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#75 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#79 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#94 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#97 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#2 Bush - place in history
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#4 CDOs subverting Boyd's OODA-loop
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#16 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#44 Fixing finance
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#51 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#57 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#59 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#67 independent appraisers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#1 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#28 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#32 subprime write-down sweepstakes
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#12 To: Graymouse -- Ireland and the EU, What in the H... is all this about?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#66 lack of information accuracy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#28 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#36 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#41 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#42 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#67 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#70 dollar coins
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#16 Fraud due to stupid failure to test for negative
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#66 With all the highly publicised data breeches and losses, are we all wasting our time?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#70 Why SSNs Are Not Appropriate for Authentication and when, where and why should you offer/use it?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#71 TJ Maxx - why are they still in business?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#73 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#12 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#19 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#53 Your thoughts on the following comprehensive bailout plan please
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#78 Isn't it the Federal Reserve role to oversee the banking system??
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#99 Blinkylights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#12 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#18 Once the dust settles, do you think Milton Friedman's economic theories will be laid to rest
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#19 What's your view of current global financial / economical situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#28 Does anyone get the idea that those responsible for containing this finanical crisis are doing too much?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#37 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#39 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#43 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#44 The human plague
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#51 Why are some banks failing, and others aren't?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#78 Who murdered the financial system?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#80 Can we blame one person for the financial meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#83 Chip-and-pin card reader supply-chain subversion 'has netted millions from British shoppers'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#2 Keeping private information private
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#5 Privacy, Identity theft, account fraud
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#7 Dealing with the neew MA ID protection law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#9 Do you believe a global financial regulation is possible?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#26 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#66 Blinkenlights
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#64 Is This a Different Kind of Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#23 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#55 Is this the story behind the crunchy credit stuff?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#58 HONEY I LOVE YOU, but please cut the cards
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#84 what was the idea behind Citigroup's splitting up into two different divisions? what does this do for citigroup?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#29 is privacy a security attribute(component or ?). If yes, why? If no why not?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#47 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#48 The blame game is on : A blow to the Audit/Accounting Industry or a lesson learned ???
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#52 What has the Global Financial Crisis taught the Nations, it's Governments and Decision Makers, and how should they apply that knowledge to manage risks differently in the future?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#58 OCR scans of old documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#59 As bonuses...why breed greed, when others are in dire need?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#60 OCR scans of old documents
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#79 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#80 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#0 Audit II: Two more scary words: Sarbanes-Oxley
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#10 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#11 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#16 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#18 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#20 Decision Making or Instinctive Steering?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#32 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#36 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#42 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#46 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#55 Who will give Citigroup the KNOCKOUT blow?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#61 Accounting for the "greed factor"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#0 PNC Financial to pay CEO $3 million stock bonus
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#74 Why is everyone talking about AIG bonuses of millions and keeping their mouth shut on billions sent to foreign banks?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#77 Who first mentioned Credit Crunch?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#36 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#40 Architectural Diversity
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#59 Tesco to open 30 "bank branches" this year
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#79 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#2 CEO pay sinks - Wall Street Journal/Hay Group survey results just released
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#27 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#31 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#43 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#46 Who moved my payment?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#47 TARP Disbursements Through April 10th
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#49 Is the current downturn cyclic or systemic?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#53 What every taxpayer should know about what caused the current Financial Crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#56 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#57 Data masking/data disguise Primer 1) WHY
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#65 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#3 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#5 Do the current Banking Results in the US hide a grim truth?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#27 Flawed Credit Ratings Reap Profits as Regulators Fail Investors
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#37 Future of Financial Mathematics?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#53 We Can't Subsidize the Banks Forever
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#76 Undoing 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#19 Does anyone know of merchants who have successfully bypassed interchange costs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#22 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#25 The Paradox of Economic Recovery
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#29 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#1 IBM to Build Europe, Asia 'Smart Infrastructure'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#23 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#40 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#44 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#49 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#54 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#57 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#74 Administration calls for financial system overhaul
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#1 Is it possible to have an alternative payment system without riding on the Card Network platforms?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#12 IBM identity manager goes big on role control
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#21 The Big Takeover
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#23 Database Servers: Candy For Hackers
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#33 IBM touts encryption innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#35 what is mortgage-backed securities?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#36 Average Comp This Year At Top Firm Estimated At $700,000
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#69 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#2 Big Bonuses At Goldman Should Be Applauded, Not Criticized
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#5 Internal fraud isn't new, but it's news
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#89 Audits V: Why did this happen to us ;-(
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#17 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#21 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#56 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#58 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#62 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#2 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#17 U.K. lags in information security management practices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#20 U.K. lags in information security management practices
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#23 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#47 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#51 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#35 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#53 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#60 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#73 70 Years of ATM Innovation
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#45 Audits VII: the future of the Audit is in your hands
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#61 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#70 Post Office bank account 'could help 1m poor'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#6 Bookshelves under BookMangler
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#82 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#86 Oldest Instruction Set still in daily use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#34 Happy DEC-10 Day
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#52 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#74 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#33 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#36 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#51 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#62 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#69 The 2010 Census
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#15 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#16 The Revolving Door and S.E.C. Enforcement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#31 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#32 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#52 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#58 S.E.C. Moves to Tighten Rules on Bonds Backed by Consumer Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#73 Our Pecora Moment
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#74 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#75 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#82 Costs Of Data Breaches Much Higher In U.S. Than In Other Countries, Study Says
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#34 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#48 "Fraud & Stupidity Look a Lot Alike"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#62 blasts from the past -- old predictions come true
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#63 Wal-Mart to support smartcard payments
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#77 Favourite computer history books?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#83 The Evolution of the Extended Enterprise: Security Stategies for Forward Thinking Organizations
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#7 Seeking *Specific* Implementation of Star Trek Game
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#18 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#6 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#7 taking down the machine - z9 series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#29 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#43 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#60 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#66 the Federal Reserve, was Re: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#68 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#69 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#56 About that "Mighty Fortress"... What's it look like?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#62 Dodd-Frank Act Makes CEO-Worker Pay Gap Subject to Disclosure
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#29 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#33 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#35 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#52 Who are these people who think cybersecurity experts are crying wolf?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#38 Google scares Aussie banks
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#53 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#59 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#65 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#71 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#76 E-commerce smackdown as PCI standards revised
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#7 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#16 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#17 What banking is. (Essential for predicting the end of finance as we know it.)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#23 They always think we don't understand
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#29 The Mobile Device Is Becoming Humankind's Primary Tool
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#50 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#54 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#59 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#69 Moody's hints at move that could be catastrophic for US debt
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#16 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#40 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#49 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#53 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#84 The Imaginot Line
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#42 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#46 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#19 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#27 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#28 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#9 I actually miss working at IBM
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#36 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#38 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#48 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#55 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#66 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#30 Bank email archives thrown open in financial crash report
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#47 Lords: Auditors guilty of 'dereliction of duty'
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#6 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#7 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#9 Breaches and Consumer Backlash
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#10 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#25 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#55 CISO's Guide to Breach Notification
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#66 Senate Democrats Ask House to Boost SEC Funding
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#18 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#19 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#42 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#45 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#68 Why the US needs a data privacy law -- and why it might finally get one
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#2 House panel approves data breach notification bill
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#24 rating agencies
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#39 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#44 S&P Downgrades USA; Time to Downgrade S&P?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#52 How Many Divisions Does Standard and Poors Have?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#20 Study shows powerful corporations really do control the world's finances
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#53 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#54 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#56 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#60 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#76 FIA shocked and outraged after Senator leaks oil trading data
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#62 The true cost of 9/11: Trillions and trillions wasted on wars, a fiscal catastrophe, and a weaker America
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#69 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#0 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#2 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#18 computer bootlaces

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Goodbye, OODA-Loop

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 10 Oct, 2011
Subject: Goodbye, OODA-Loop
Blog: Boyd Strategy
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#66 Goodbye, OODA-Loop
and
http://lnkd.in/7EWnUF

another reference here:

Boats Against the Current
http://peterjmunson.blogspot.com/2011/10/black-hole-of-real-thinking.html

ht to ("The black hole of real thinking")
http://zenpundit.com/?p=4387

some earlier comments
http://zenpundit.com/?p=4383

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Transitioning Highly Available Applications to System z

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Transitioning Highly Available Applications to System z
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Oct 2011 09:21:23 -0700
we had started ha/6000 in the 80s ... and then I coined the marketing term HA/CMP to also capture the work on cluster scale-up (work for both commercial and numerical intensive) ... more recently renamed PowerHA
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/availability/aix/index.html
under my earlier name (High Availability Cluster Multi-Processing)
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246375.html

various old email about cluster scale-up part
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

this references a Jan92 meeting in Ellison's conference room regarding the commercial scale-up part
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

less than a month later, the cluster scale-up was transferred and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors. A couple weeks later it was announced as supercomputer for numerical intensive only.

before that had happened, I had been asked to write a section for the corporate continuous availability strategy document ... but then it was pulled when both Rochester and POK complained that they couldn't meet the objectives.

misc. past posts mentioning ha/cmp
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

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Interesting Article on Big Iron

From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 10 Oct, 2011
Subject: Interesting Article on Big Iron
Blog: Old Geek
re:
http://lnkd.in/VAa6Ej

I had sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM. One of his biographies mentioned that he did a year stint in command.of."spook base" ... the datacenter being $2.5B windfall for IBM ... reference to "spook base" here
https://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

Boyd would mention that the datacenter was possibly the coolest place in that part of the world.

The above article claims something that was possible picture of 2250 ... however, this is recent post in ibm-main regarding 2250s with a number of URLs to pictures:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#49

a few:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2250.html ..
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2250-ad.gif ..
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/36091.html

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Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News

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From: lynn@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler)
Date: 11 Oct, 2011
Subject: Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
Blog: Facebook
Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/10/banks-awash-in-cash-which-isnt-good-news.html

Past Bernanke testimony was that Fed Reserve made $16T in loans to too-big-to-fail anticipating they would reloan to mainstreet (economic stimulus) ... but they didn't .. FEDs also bought more in toxic assets from too-big-to-fail (at 98cents on the dollar) than had been appropriated in the original TARP funds

a few recent posts mentioning Bernanke
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#26 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#59 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#68 Bernanke Hearings

past posts referencing $16T in loans and/or buying toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#63 TCM's Moguls documentary series
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#58 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#50 What do you think about fraud prevention in the governments?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#27 The Zippo Lighter theory of the financial crisis (or, who do we want to blame?)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#45 Productivity And Bubbles
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#46 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#23 The first personal computer (PC)
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#41 On Protectionism
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#29 Obama: "We don't have enough engineers"
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#3 Greed, Excess and America's Gaping Class Divide
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#39 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#44 S&P Downgrades USA; Time to Downgrade S&P?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#45 S&P's History of Relentless Political Advocacy
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#23 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#25 Wall Street Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's Secret Loans
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#59 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#81 How Joe and Mary Six Pack Saved Wall Street, London, Frankfurt and Big Corporates in the USA and Europe
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#67 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces

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computer bootlaces

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: computer bootlaces
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, alt.folklore.computers, rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:36:13 -0400
re:
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#58 computer bootlaces
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#70 computer bootlaces

for a little drift ... a.f.c. thread from last year about Ft. Devens
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#21 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#25 Idiotic programming style edicts
https://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#25 Idiotic programming style edicts

I had read a history that mentioned when special forces group was first formed, it was named 10th group to mislead the russians ... implying that there were actually (at least) nine other groups.

and then there is this from yesterday

Evergreen Solar's Michigan, Devens plants head to auction
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2011/10/10/evergreen-solar-devens-plant-to-auction.html

so did they turn Devens into a industrial park?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Devens

and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devens,_Massachusetts

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