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2008 Newsgroup Postings (03/06 - 03/27)

independent appraisers
independent appraisers
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
Convergent Technologies vs Sun
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
independent appraisers
Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
More on GPS troubles
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
confluence of virtualization and trusted computing
independent appraisers
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
confluence of virtualization and trusted computing
Object-relational impedence
Panic in Multicore Land
Stalin, Re: Bush - place in history
Can electronic signature bring us non-repudiation and authenticity?
IBM sees decline in number of U.S IT pros, boom in China
US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
Panic in Multicore Land
independent appraisers
A new mathematical object was revealed yesterday
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
independent appraisers
WWII
Wintel, Universities Team On Parallel Programming
How do OTP tokens work?
Toyota's Value Innovation: The Art of Tension
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
independent appraisers
How do OTP tokens work?
WWII
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
independent appraisers
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Primaries (USA)
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Antivirus Inventor: Security Departments Are Wasting Their Time
Panic in Multicore Land
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
IBM System 64
Virtualization's security threats
Virtualization's security threats
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
Bush - place in history
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Bush - place in history
Multicore boom needs new developer skills
Bush - place in history
Bush - place in history
Bush - place in history
was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Bush - place in history
A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
Is IT becoming extinct?
A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
Bush - place in history
was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Primaries (USA)
Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
Is IT becoming extinct?
Has Banking Industry Overlooked Its Biggest Breach Ever?
Bush - place in history
WWII supplies
was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
Data Centers Nearing Power-Usage, Cost Crisis
Bush - place in history
Bush - place in history
Bush - place in history
Bush - place in history
Innovation: biggest draw in the West
The Workplace War for Age and Talent

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:34:05
Walter Bushell <proto@oanix.com> writes:
That's what I meant, I think. If the bank or reloc company gets to choose or in this case chose a list with the possibility of "refinement" by the bank or reloc company, you get the results I specified -- the only ones working will be the ones who give the bank or reloc company the answer they want. It has to be a neutral party doing the certification.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers

there have been similar comments about bond/cdo ratings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#41 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#63 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:03:44
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
Its becoming obvious is that the present problem is just a continuation of the S&L problem. greenspan is getting the blame, justified or not

greenspan is federal reserve from the early 80s ... congress gives federal reserve regulatory control over certain class of banks. federal reserve can set prime rate for those banks and some control over money for those banks.

part of the S&L mess was that (non federal reserve regulated) financial institutions were allowed to reduce their reserves ... and wallstreet created financial instruments to quickly aborb the newly available funds ... less convoluted than the current toxic CDOs

roll forward into the 90s ... congress repeals Glass-Steagall and mortgages business changes ... nearly all of it outside the perview of the federal reserve powers.

cycle of real estate inflation and frenzy speculation ... money wasn't from deposits at federal reserve regulated financial institutions and any federal reserve regulated institutions involved were clearing them from their books ... so it didn't come under either federal reserve or basel.

subprime decoupled the interest rate from federal reserve prime rate (effectively by definition). in theory, federal reserve increasing the prime rate should have cooled the whole mess ... but since it was now decoupled from the prime rate and federal reserve regulatory control ... it had little effect.

so the bubble eventually bursts and craters with the federal reserve being asked to step in a fix the mess. since federal reserves increases to the prime had little effect on preventing the mess ... turning around and lowering the prime ... isn't likely to appreciably clean up the mess.

so on the other end ... the mortgage quality ... which should have been under federal reserve regulatory control (for those institutions that they have regulatory control over) ... comes back as toxic CDOs. It is no longer direct loan quality & risk ... it has been turned into something from wall street ... and bond ratings ... also something the federal reserve doesn't have regulatory control over. Federal reserve, retirement funds, etc ... can specify things like triple-A ratings are required ... but the institutions making those ratings are not under their control. A somewhat derogatory characterization is that those loans have been "laundered" thru wallstreet (leave the institution books as direct loans and comes back as wallstreet investment). however federal reserve has governance over only small piece of what is going on.

I would claim it is somewhat analogous to computer scheduling implementations that 1) didn't have adequate instrumentation about what really was going on and 2) scheduling decisions had superficial or no direct control over actual resource consumption. i ran into this doing resource management implementations as undergraduate in the 60s ... lots of implementations were frequently layered on top of actual operational kernel code with little or no direct interaction. misc. past posts mentioning resource management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

It may be slightly more related to proposals requiring legislation having explicit metrics ... i.e. bills have explicit statements about what they are suppose to accomplish and then regular evaluations whether the legislation results are in any way related to their stated purpose. This could have secondary effect that legislation providing gov. agencies with their regulatory powers ... might require some demonstartion that the regulatory powers are in any way effective at achieving the agency's stated purpose.

It is less analogous to slow-start as countermeasure to internet congestion ... since even tho slow-start has been shown to not be directly related to congestion and also (or because) an unstable control mechanism ... it does provide a form of control over the amount packets dumped into the internet. this is something that we migrated to rate-based controls ... which provides a much more effective mechanism for all sorts of things (including congestion control). a couple recent rate-based postings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#19 MAINFRAME Training with IBM Certification and JOB GUARANTEE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#28 MAINFRAME Training with IBM Certification and JOB GUARANTEE

other posts in this particular thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers

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EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:29:50
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
http://www.technologynewsdaily.com/node/9331

from above:
Integrated circuit piracy has risen in recent years as U.S. companies started outsourcing production of newer chips with ultra-fine features. Transferring chip blueprints to overseas locations opened new doors for bootleggers who have used the chips to make counterfeit MP3 players, cell phones and computers, among other devices.
... snip ...

nearly a decade ago when we were working on what would satisfy institutions as part of moving to a person-centric paradigm ... we were approached by some of the big fab operators about using a side-effect to also address the copy-chip problem. It was different than the above solution ... but would have also addressed much of the same problem.

recent post mentioning working on person-centric paradigm solution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:40:38
Stephen Fuld <S.Fuld@PleaseRemove.att.net> writes:
I remember this, was puzzled then and still remain puzzled. How could it be better to use some memory as a paging device, actually moving data around in memory than simply using it as additional memory to hold those same pages? It certainly is counter-intuitive! Can you describe the problems with the page replacement algorithm implementations that caused this anomalous behavior?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#40 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

smaller real storage would result in cycling the reference bits more often ... leading to improved differentiation of what was being used within periods of time ... larger real storage extended the interval so that there was less differentiation about actual page use (i.e. all pages with any use at all during the extended period appeared to be equally used).

there is also some possibility that the effective operation may degenerate to FIFO ... aka default LRU can degenerate to FIFO ... reference to coding slight of hand where LRU degenerates to random instead of FIFO:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#16 Kernels

lots of posts about doing replacement algorithms dating back to undergraduate in 60s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

which 15 or so yrs later got me dragged into battle somebody was having getting their Phd from stanford ... recent post:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#65 No Glory for the PDP-15

old communication on the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:32:16
jmfbahciv writes:
This makes no sense. If the owner didn't occupy the house and the house was occupied before the bubble breakage, then the people living in the house had to be renting. Just because the ownership is in question should not force the people living there to vacate. Their rent would be going into an escrow account or something.

These reports of vacancies are not making any sense to me at all.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers

i haven't actually seen percent numbers ... but i saw quite a few "speculation" vacancies ... person sold to a speculator (and moved out ... or it was brand new property and never occupied) ... depending on how long the speculator was planning on holding the property ... they may or may not have felt that it was worth having tenent paying rent during the speculation period. when the bubble bursts ... all of those properties would be vacant.

somebody buys a property for $500k and expects to clear $50k after holding it for a year. with no down and 3percent subprime ... they would have $15k loan cost. the question is do they want the headache of dealing with a tenant for the period. the loan cost is $15k and the return is $50k ... say on the order of 300percent ROI in a year. Especially if it is brand new property ... not ever having anybody living it could be attractive. If it wasn't a brand new property, the speculator may have had somebody come in a do some superficial work ... and then wait for new buyer ... tenents could just represent unnecessary complication for the flip.

in any case, just another example of nobody minding the store ... just cranking out the mortgages as fast as possible ... and figuring that since the mortgages will almost immediately be unloaded ... loan quality was going to be somebody else's problem ... not theirs. if the people buying the mortgages weren't evaluating the loan quality ... why should the originating lenders? this is somewhat the reference to the musical chairs analogy (who is left holding the bag when the bubble bursts)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers

... and effectively all of this outside of the federal reserve regulatory authority

other posts in the thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:08:08
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers

non-owner-occupied speculators ... holding properties off the market for year or so ... would tend to inflate the apparent demand ... helping fuel real estate price inflation (and also contributing to over building).

speculators who anticipate real demand ... can rev up the suppliers to start producing additional product before the demand actually materializes.

however, later in the cycle ... i conjecture that economic modeling of speculators, effectively holding product off the market ... would start to look more like hording ... creating appearance of demand in excess of actual. then the incremental, artificial scarcity goes thru period of adjustment. an analogous hording of consumable products tends to go thru more rapid adjustment. non-owner-occupied speculation properties, using the hording analogy ... contributes to additional property inflation ... which will have to go through an adjustment period (when the anticipated demand doesn't immediately materialize).

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:36:12
Stephen Fuld <S.Fuld@PleaseRemove.att.net> writes:
I think I understand what you are saying, but given the availability of scatter/gather I/O (data chaining in IBM speak), such aggregation is just as easy from real memory as it is from extended. Thus there is no advantage to moving the pages to some special location to aggregate them, and you have to pay the cost of the move.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#3 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...

3090 expanded store had a synchronous fast move instruction custom for the expanded store ... sort of like a customized 4k move ... and possibly also didn't affect processor cache (other than invalidates ... but didn't actually drag thru cache). i/o was not possible to "expanded store" ... i.e. any pages in expanded stored that "aged out" would have to be copied back to regular memory before doing any i/o. one might consider this analogous to "page migration" ... something i had implemented for fixed-head (and electronic store) paging disks in the 70s (required moving pages back into storage before writing to lower thruput disks) ... actually the page migration was more generalized ... but fixed-head to non-fixed-head was most apparent effect.

a little before 3090 (early 80s starting with 308x) ... both mvs and vm got "big pages" ... basically custom page replacement that attempted to aggregate a full track of a process pages (10 for 3380) for a single transfer out. a subsequent fault on any member of a "big page" ... would fetch all pages in a big page. the issue was effectively trading off real storage (fetch of 40k) against 3380 access bottleneck (i.e. random access for 3380 vis-a-vis 3330 only went up moderately ... but transfer rate went up by a factor of ten times). the idea was somewhat approximate the thruput of fixed-head disks ... with the much less expensive 3380s (attempting to always perform full track operation per access, possibly even doing multiple full track operations at the same cylinder position ... before any requirement to move the arm).

big pages implemented a log-structured filesystem kind of logic (i.e. disk arm access optimization) allocated space supporting the operation was possibly ten times expected use ... moving cursor progressed across surface ... with new write of a big page always going to next available track on the leading edge of the moving cursor. advantage of paging strategy (vis-a-vis log-structured filesystem) was there was no "clean-up" requirement to periodically consolidate scattered written file records into consecutive locations.

discussion around recent releases imply that support for "big pages" has been dropped because associated processor overhead was exceeding the benefit.

the original purpose of 3090 expanded store was because of physical packaging and requiring something that differentiated storage with longer latency. this is somewhat akin to the old 360 LCS ... where there was variety of both kinds of implementation ... 1) execution directly out of LCS (with latency on every load/store) and 2) copying from LCS down to faster storage. 3090 expanded store only provided hardware support for the "copying" strategy.

later machine generations addressed the latency associated with physical packaging. however, it was still possible to configurate microcode to partition standard memory as (hardware) emulated "expanded store".
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#40 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...

the issue was that there was some experience with customers getting better thruput with some configured expanded store (trading off lower amount of standard addressable storage for some amount of extended storage). one could claim that a better algorithm implementation could approach the accuracy of working with smaller amounts of real memory ... while obtaining the benefits of having one global addressable memory (w/o requiring moving overhead).

for total other topic drift ... there was project to craft HiPPI I/O support onto 3090 ... but standard channel interface wouldn't support the 100mbyte/sec transfer ... so there was a hack to craft HiPPI support into the side of the expanded store bus. since the processor didn't actually have channel program capability on the expanded store bus ... I/O commands were implemented using a peek/poke kind of architecture (using the expanded store, 4k "copy" instructions to peek & poke to reserved expanded store addresses).

for other topic drift ... past posts discussing big page (i.e. full track transfers of multiple regular pages) implementation from early 80s:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#60 Defrag in linux? - Newbie question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#20 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#29 Page size (was: VAX, M68K complex instructions)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#48 Swapper was Re: History of Login Names
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#8 What are some impressive page rates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#11 What are some impressive page rates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#20 Blade architectures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#36 Do any architectures use instruction count instead of timer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#4 Handling variable page sizes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#7 Handling variable page sizes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#69 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#21 PDP10 and RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#5 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#9 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#16 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#48 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#12 Page Table - per OS/Process
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#61 1teraflops cell processor possible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#62 1teraflops cell processor possible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#13 Holee shit! 30 years ago!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#16 Paging query - progress
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#22 Shipwrecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#39 100% CPU is not always bad
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#15 Exceptions at basic block boundaries
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#51 Q ALLOC PAGE vs. CP Q ALLOC vs ESAMAP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#41 25% Pageds utilization on 3390-09?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#18 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#19 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#21 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#22 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#2 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#3 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#4 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#11 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#13 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#35 REAL memory column in SDSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#37 REAL memory column in SDSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#39 REAL memory column in SDSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#18 Why magnetic drums was/are worse than disks ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#43 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#9 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#32 reading erased bits

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Convergent Technologies vs Sun

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Convergent Technologies vs Sun
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:58:32
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
I would argue that although SNA and CCITT stacks in general were on their way to the fossil yards, a major contributor may have been a focus on TCP and let the big boys and girls fritter all their money away on the designed by committee collosal waste of time, the 7 layer model and OSI. I wonder how much money IBM alone wasted in sheer white papers attempting to claim that the old 3 layer SNA that could be somehow stretched into a 5 layer SNA was really a full 7 layer implementation. Whereas with few exceptions, TCP was good enough that only a few misguided networks were ever implemented with OSI.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#73 Convergent Technologies vs Sun
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#74 Convergent Technologies vs Sun

i've frequently claimed that the big advantage that IP brought was internetworking and gateways. first generation networking viewed things qmuch more as a single domain. the dramatic advantage that internetworking and gateways brought was being able to interoperate across multiple, fairly independent domains. part of IP secret was that it made it fairly transparent to the end-user whether they were interacting in the local domain or across multiple domains.

i've also observed that the internal network (non-sna)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

and possibly the major reason that it was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until mid-85 ... was because each node contained a form of gateway support ... somewhat simplifying interconnecting multiple domains.

removing impediment for interconnecting multiple domains didn't come to arpanet/internet until the cut-over to internetworking protocol on 1/1/83.

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:57:57
nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) writes:
Yes, but THAT expanded store was designed to be cheaper by providing ONLY such operations - i.e. the hardware couldn't be used as general memory. I thought that this thread was about using part of general memory as an in-store paging device.

just mentioning runup to the situation ... and it actually wasn't designed to be cheaper ... they would have preferred to not have expanded store at all. 3090 system thruput could benefit from the additional storage.

3090 expanded store was same physical memory technology but physical packaging resulted in different latency ... so they somewhat backed into putting it on a different bus ... that was wider and only operated with special move instruction (it wasn't as good as single global addressable memory ... but it was much better than having to do physical i/o).

later machines eliminated the physical packaging differentiation ... but provided microcode configuration option to use regular memory technology as (microcode/hardware) emulated expanded storage ... and customers could select to treat storage as single global address space ... or partitioned between standard addressable storage and emulated expanded storage.

posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#40 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#3 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#6 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

for other thread drift ... current generations of machines have separate dedicated HSA (hardware storage area) ... uses include "system" disk record caching:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#91 Z10 presentation on 26 Feb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#31 IBM announce Z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#39 IBM announce Z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9

as previously mentioned, in the late 70s, we did a special implementation that would capture all disk record number access ... and it was installed on several different systems in the san jose area ... capturing live activity for various kinds of application work (engineering timesharing, administrative business, development, etc). The information was used in I/O cache simulation ... which looked at variety of different caching strategies. One of the findings was that for a given amount of electronic storage (for cache), optimal system performance was with using all the storage as single global system cache ... as opposed to various kinds of partitioning strategies (where total aggregate electronic cache storage remained the same)... channel level caches, control unit level caches, device level caches.

This cache simulation work tended to validate my earlier findings in the 60s (as undergraduate) that global LRU implementation strategies outperformed "local LRU" implementations (where "local LRU" is equivalent to partitioning storage into various kinds of subsets).

These findings would also tend to support that single global addressable area would outperform subsetting it into two different areas ... one of them a simulated electronic paging device. For subsetting with some sort of emulated electronic paging device, to provide improved throughput ... would indicate some kind of deficiency/idiosyncrasy in the implementation (that the configuration variations, compensate for)

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EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:26:44
Chris Barts <chbarts+usenet@gmail.com> writes:
This sounds like a perfect opportunity for the shadier gray-market operations to flood the "ordinary phone line or Internet connection" with bogus requests, thus preventing the fabs that play by the rules from making working chips. Maybe contract a worm maker to slip some DDoS code into the next XP-killer and have the horde of zombies around the world attack.

Even if nobody explicitly attacks it, a phone/Internet connection can be a very fragile single point of failure. Vide the recent Mediterranean outages. Don't fabs work on a rather thin margin? Wouldn't that be eaten quite comprehensively by a few hours of unplanned downtime? Seems the students behind this EPIC failure-to-be need to go back to class and learn how the real world (fails to) work.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#2 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

lots of people have looked at skimming off cream by moving things to an internet base w/o actually deploying an industrial strength operation (aka nearly zero infrastructure cost overhead) ... one could claim that it is on par with real estate speculators looking at 100precent (or better) ROI/annum
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers

more than a decade ago, i gave a talk at combination IETF editor, ISI, and USC graduate student seminar about why the base internet wasn't an industrial strength operation.

lots of move to electronic commerce on the internet ... is the reduced cost of doing business.

when we were out marketing our ha/cmp product
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

we coined the terms geographic survivability and disaster survivability to differentiate from disaster/recovery. we looked at general scenario of availability ... various kinds of environmental hazards, things like floods ... but also attacks (aka single point of failure)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available

later we were asked to consult with a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server ... which is now frequently referred to as electronic commerce ... which included something called a payment gateway
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

one can make similar claims about electronic commerce having similar environmental hazard vulnerabilities ... in fact, any internet attachment ... and can have requirements for continuous available operation ... and failure/attack countermeasures. lots of past posts mentioning risk, fraud, vulnerabilities, exploits, threats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:27:50
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
The BigBadBank may be in a squeeze themselves, and may have to sell off a bundle of loans to BiggerBadderBank at a discount. Rates between these vary, but 60-85% of original value is a common band. Reserve requirements often force banks to do this. They try to hand off the most sellable items, normally loans that are only slightly distressed, but still perfectly performing.

just caught tailend of business tv program that (i believe) made the statement that UBS is unloading $22billion in mortgages (CDOs?) for seventy cents on the dollar.

other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:47:19
jmfbahciv writes:
One of the special news reports this morning said that the people selling the real estate were also issuing the loans. Separation of powers was not happening in this economic sector. There were no checks and balances...that's what happened with the S&Ls--the checks and balances were removed by Congress.

back to the first post in this thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers

... issue in the 80s was some amount of property evaluation was fraudulent ... which needed to be fixed ... also mentioned in this old, frequently referenced post from the last century
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

the above thread also talks about how to carry trusted property/mortgage valuation thru the whole process as the mortgages got securitized ... i.e.
to be able to have an evidentiary trail to asset securitization pools that are traded on the secondary market

however, there is not only the original evaluation ... but ongoing real-time characteristics associated with the individual loans.

some recent posts mentioning dataprocessing required for evaluating the aggregate characteristics of these asset securitization pools
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#66 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#70 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:32:08
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
The "large memory" patches to BSD and Linux, to support >4G (3.75G, actually) on a 32-bit ISA work in this fashion, plus some remapping of page tables.

Now there are 4 layers of memory; the 640k for booting, the 16M for old-style DMA and 24-bit processes, 4G for 32-bit access, and the "large memory" beyond 4G.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#40 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#3 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#6 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#8 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

the "original" of this was 3033 >16mbyte support.

360/67 had 24bit and 32bit addressing modes ... 370 retrenched to just 24bit addressing (real & virtual) modes.

come up to 3033 ... disks had relative slower system thruput, fixed storage requirements were increasing , 3033 was running into real thruput crunch with 16mbyte real memory constraint.

370 architecture had 16bit page table entry ... 12 bit real (4k byte) page number, 2 defined bits and 2 undefined bits. 3033 did a hack to allow addressing 64mbytes ... by allowing the 2 undefined bits to be concatenated to the 12bit page number (for 14bit number). real & virtual addressing was still limited to 24bit ... but pagetable/tlb could translate that into 26bit address.

normal channel programs were 24bit ... but "IDALs" (indirect data access lists) were introduced with for 370 channel programs ... which had 31bit address field for data transfers. the original objective of IDALs was that CCWs in channel programs have to be processed synchronously and prefetching wasn't allowed. the "problem" was scatter/gather i/o transfers crossing page boundaries and non-contiguous ... which in 360 required data-chaining. however, there were some situation where there would be overrun because the (data-chaining) chained to CCW couldn't be fetched within the time constraints. IDAL addresses were allowed to be prefetched ... which facilitated converting virtually contiguous data transfers ... to non-contiguous real data transfers (because of non-contiguous virtual pages).

in any case, IDAL allowed for channel programs on 3033 to do i/o into and out of real storage above the 16mbyte line (although all the actual channel programs had to exist below the 16mbyte line).

the remaining problem was that their were certain operations requiring virtual pages to be below the 16mbyte line ... if the page had originally been above the 16mbyte line ... it then would have to be moved below the line. an early design called for writing such a page to disk and then bringing it back in below the 16mbyte line. i did a hack for them that fiddled some page table entries and used a MVCL in special virtual address space to move virtual pages back and forth between below the 16mbyte line and above the 16mbyte line.

old email reference trying to explain that the page table, MVCL hack was much better than the I/O strategy.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#email800121

old email discussing perturbations to global LRU with two distinct areas for virtual pages (above and below the 16mbyte line)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email860124

other old email discussing global LRU
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#globallru

posts mentioning page replacement algorithms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

past posts discussing the 3033 >16mbyte hack
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#82 "all-out" vs less aggressive designs (was: Re: 36 to 32 bit transition)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#4 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#24 New RFC 3514 addresses malicious network traffic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#34 Playing games in mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#8 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#41 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#38 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#44 Wars against bad things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#34 increasing addressable memory via paged memory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#19 address space
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#30 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#44 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#13 VM maclib reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#2 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#27 Old Hashing Routine
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#23 Multiple mappings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#34 Just another example of mainframe costs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#59 IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#56 CSA 'above the bar'

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:08:00
jmfbahciv writes:
But the chairman is not trying; he can't do anything. IMO he did exactly the wrong thing just to pretend he was trying.

he can do things that he has authority to do and/or control over.

my assertion has been that the majority of the problem exists outside the area that the federal reserve has control over.

federal reserve can increase/decrease prime rate to banks under federal reserve authority

subprime mortgages were effectively decoupled from the prime rate

federal reserve can increase/decrease funds to banks under federal reserve authority

asset securitization was obtaining funds from wall street as well as moving the loans off financial institution books.

as in the S&L crisis ... large percentage of institutions originating subprime mortgages weren't under authority of federal reserve.

asset securitization had moved stuff that had been primarily banking function (over which the federal reserve has some control over) to wallstreet (which the federal reserve has little control over ... and is normally treated in significantly more lax manner than banking).

repeal of Glass-Steagall wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act

from above:
On November 12, 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. One of the effects of the repeal is it allowed commercial & investment banks to consolidate.[citation needed] Economist Robert Kuttner has criticized the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act as contributing to the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis.
... snip ...

above wiki reference has URL to PBS program on "The Long Demise of Glass-Steagall "
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

from above:
Following the merger announcement on April 6, 1998, Weill immediately plunges into a public-relations and lobbying campaign for the repeal of Glass-Steagall and passage of new financial services legislation (what becomes the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999). One week before the Citibank-Travelers deal was announced, Congress had shelved its latest effort to repeal Glass-Steagall. Weill cranks up a new effort to revive bill.
... snip ...

misc. past posts mentioning Glass-Steagall:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

other past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:59:10
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
Just the thing I spoke about; although 70% seems low.

Here it would be a very useful defense for the homeowner to be able to take over his own debt at the given rate, and get a BigFriendlyBank or Corporation to take over the debt at the reduced rate. At 70%, and a long horizon on the loan most homeowners should be able to cope again.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers

UBS Declines on Report "Fire Sale" May Lead to More Writedowns
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a3vVSQtKj2uM&refer=europe

from abvoe:
UBS AG fell to a five-year low in Swiss trading after JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts said it probably sold 25 billion francs ($24 billion) of mortgage-backed securities in a "fire sale" and may have more writedowns.
... snip ...

and
Prices of about 70 cents on the dollar for the Alt-A assets in the fire sale are "realistic," Abouhossein said.
... snip ...

other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:34:53
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers

a little more ...

UBS fire-sale
http://www.financialnews-us.com/?page=ushome&contentid=2449999494

from above:
Analysts said they believed the Swiss bank had sold its Alt-A investments to Pimco for 70 cents on the dollar, taking a deep discount on a CHF26.6bn ($25.7bn) portfolio. UBS' shares fell 4% to CHF30.92 after touching a new five-year low of CHF30.88, more than the 1.2% fall in the DJ Stoxx European bank index.
... snip ...

and ...

Citigroup To Shrink Mortgage Holdings By $45 Billion
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200803070425DOWJONESDJONLINE000534_FORTUNE5.htm

from above:
"We see the speculated level of 70 cents on the dollar as realistic in a fire sale," J.P. Morgan's Kian Abouhossein said a research note. The current market price is close to 84 cents on the dollar.
... snip ...

other reference to citi:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

More credit costs seen weighing on banks, brokers; Citigroup may face $12 billion in additional write-downs, Goldman says
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-sees-citigroup-facing-12/story.aspx?guid=%7B69B32AA2%2D5E60%2D48A5%2DBD90%2DDB67644BEEC7%7D

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Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:00:03
Banks face "systemic margin call," $325 billion hit: JPM
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/pri/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1240531&sectionID=5
Banks face "systemic margin call," $325 billion hit: JPM
http://in.us.biz.yahoo.com/rb/080308/wallstreet_losses_jpm.html?.v=1

Bloomberg: Citigroup May Need Cash as Losses Mount
http://www.monitordaily.com/Story_Page.asp?News_ID=20829&Type=AlsoToday

from above:
Citigroup received $7.5 billion in November from a sovereign wealth fund in Abu Dhabi and is reportedly getting another $14.5 billion from investors, including the governments of Singapore and Kuwait.

Bloomberg quoted Sameer al-Ansari, the chief executive officer of Dubai International, who said, "It will take a lot more than that to rescue Citi and other financial institutions."

... snip ...

other posts in the saga ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:57:37
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

OCC Statement On Reporting Of Securitized Subprime Adjustable Rate Residential Mortgages
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-27.htm

from above:
The OCC supports the data collection efforts related to the HOPE NOW alliance, and believes that long-term sustainable loss mitigation techniques that preserve homeownership are generally in the best interest of borrowers, servicers, and investors because such strategies are typically less costly than foreclosure, particularly when applied before default.
... snip ...

4oct06 guidanced referenced in the above

Guidance on Nontraditional Mortgage Product Risks
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/bulletin/2006-41.html

from above:
The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of Thrift Supervision, and the National Credit Union Administration (the agencies) have jointly issued the attached "Interagency Guidance on Nontraditional Mortgage Product Risks." The guidance discusses how institutions can offer nontraditional mortgage products in a safe and sound manner and in a way that clearly discloses the benefits and risks to borrowers.
... snip ...

... and
The guidance expects financial institutions to recognize and mitigate the risks inherent in these products. This includes ensuring that loan terms and underwriting standards are consistent with prudent lending practices, including credible consideration of a borrower's repayment capacity. It also includes ensuring that consumers are provided clear and balanced information about the relative benefits and risks at a time that allows them to make informed decisions.
... snip ...

one of the issues via-a-vis Glass-Steagall ... was it theoritically kept some amount of the investment banker speculation activity separate from commercial banking ... after the experience of the late 20s.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

and misc. reference to toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers

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Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:03:20
Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
http://origin.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8504495
from above:
IBM's Building 25 - the focus of preservation lawsuits and a planned big-box retailer - was destroyed in a Saturday fire, leaving a charred husk of a structure preservationists had hailed as the precursor to modern high-tech campuses and where the forerunner to the hard drive was invented.
... snip ...

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:24:11
Brian Boutel <fake@fake.org> writes:
ISTR that VMS (at least in the early part of its life) kept some pages as a staging area, i.e they were marked for paging out, but it hadn't yet happened, so if they came back into use they could be retrieved cheaply. I don't know whether copying of contents was used, or simply updating tables.

standard LRU (whether global LRU or local LRU) tended to degrade to FIFO ... as previously mentioned, I had done a slight of hand coding trick where LRU would degrade to RANDOM instead of FIFO ... i.e.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#3 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...

and showed much better thruput characteristics.

synchronous page replacement ... when there was page fault ... invoke the page replacement algorithm ... find a page for replacement ... and allocate that page for replacement by the faulting page ... could run into additional latency delays ... if the page selected for replacement had been changed and first requires writing to backing store ... before it can be "replaced".

asynchronous page replacement ... would attempt to keep a small pool of pages immediately available for replacement ... i.e. the production of pages to be replaced running slightly ahead of the consumption of the pages ... attempting to mitigate the replace latency (when the page needed to be written). It was possible to "reclaim" pages in such a pool ... if an application page faulted on one ... prior to it being acctually allocated for replacement. Circa 1980, somebody had thought up this brilliant strategy for the favorite son operating system ... and also called me about implementing such a "reclaim" strategy for VM. I commented that since my days as an undergraduate in the 60s, it had never occured to me not to have implemented such a "reclaim" strategy (in the implementation i had done for cp67 and later vm370 case, the page table entry invalid flag was marked invalid ... but the page number not actually zeroed ... until the real page number was assigned for some other virtual page, reclaim then just involved updating table info.

then there is "duplicated" vis-a-vis "no-duplicated" stratigy with regard to managing secondary backing store location.

In the duplicate strategy ... the backing store location would remain allocated, even if a page had been fetched into main memory for use. If the page was subsequently selected for replacement, the page hadn't been changed and the backing store location was still valid ... the write could be avoided and the real storage location could be immediately available for use.

In the no-duplicate strategy ... the backing store location is deallocated when the page is brought into main memory. Subsequent selection of the page for replacement would always require it to be written out.

The duplicate strategy could reduce page i/o traffic ... and also reduce latency ... especially in synchronous page replacement strategy. The no-duplicate strategy increases the amount of page i/o traffic, but eliminates the amount of secondary storage required ... especially in situations with large real storage configurations and somewhat constrained disk space (i.e. eliminates duplicates of a page both on disk and in real memory).

Another early disagreement with the people working on moving the favorite son batch operating system from purely real storage into virtual memory operation (initially os/v2 svs and then os/vs2 mvs). their modeling had "found" that a page replacement strategy could reduce page i/o activity and latency if it were to first explicitly search for a non-changed page ... before resorting to selecting a changed page. My contention was that it would horribly distort any LRU operational characteristics ... but they went ahead and did it anyway. It wasn't until a number of years into MVS releases that they realized that this "micro optimization" was selecting high-use, shared program execution virtual pages before lower use private application (changed) data pages. Of course this was only applicable to the "duplicate" strategy where it was possible to avoid the write of a a non-changed page selected for replacement.

other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#40 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#6 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#8 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#12 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

misc. old email discussing things like global LRU vis-a-vis local LRU
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#globallru

and previous posts mentioning page replacement algorithms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

previous posts specifically mentioning dup/no-dup strategies:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#12 managing large amounts of vm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#13 managing large amounts of vm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#9 talk to your I/O cache
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#13 4341 was "Is a VAX a mainframe?"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#42 Question re: Size of Swap File
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#55 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#78 Swap partition no bigger than 128MB?????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#10 hollow files in unix filesystems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#16 hollow files in unix filesystems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#19 hollow files in unix filesystems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#20 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#11 What are some impressive page rates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#20 Blade architectures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#26 Blade architectures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#5 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#62 1teraflops cell processor possible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#17 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#18 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#20 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#19 fast check for binary zeroes in memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#1 Hard disk architecture: are outer cylinders still faster than inner cylinders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#27 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#28 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#8 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#45 using 3390 mod-9s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#18 how much swap size did you take?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#41 virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#11 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#0 old discussion of disk controller chache
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#60 FBA rant
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#61 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:36:20
jmfbahciv writes:
But not when that rate goes up. The problem, (isn't it?) is that the loans' interest rates don't go down when the prime goes down.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers

loan origination is when subprime adjustable rate mortgage is decoupled from prime. the loans are then securitized ... moved to wallstreet and unloaded from the books.

the organization originating the loan are looking for this subprime characteriztic to help close the loan. by the time it becomes a problem, *asset securitization* has cleared it from their books and it is somebody else's problem.

some number of speculators are looking to take advantage of this decoupled from the prime ... anticipating having flipped the property before the rate adjusts.

during the initial period ... the subprime rate is decoupled from the prime rate ... then, after the initial period ... the loan rate becomes adjusted based on prime ... but it appears that all of the players were not anticipating that as a problem.

after the initial period, the adjustable formulae is usually prime plus something. based on extremely low initial subprime rate ... all (positive?) values for the prime could result in the first adjustment to be upward.

some amount of speculation appeared to be anticipating taking advantage in early window of unsustainable real estate inflation.

other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#0 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#16 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers

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Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...
Newsgroups: comp.arch,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:07:39
nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) writes:
So did MVS and, I believe, many other mainframes.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#19 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical ...

as mentioned ... not in early releases. somebody got an award for coming up with the idea for mvs (very late 70s) ... and then i got a call if they could also apply it to vm (and get another award?). i replied i had never not done it that way since undergraduate days in the 60s.

i somewhat facetiously suggested that instead of giving awards for making things the way they should have been originally ... the original people responsible should be given negative awards.

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Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:25:15
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
Maybe the parental support, but studies have looked at groups of students from the same neighborhoods and income levels, and the charter schools seem to do better. Some have longer school days and/or classes on Saturdays.

the major articles have been about the poor competitiveness of this country (overall & specifically the education system) vis-a-vis other countries ... and the resulting competitiveness/economic disadvantage it places the country. in the past, abundance of natural resources in the country have somewhat been able to compensate for difficiencies of the citizens.

the neighborhood/demographic differences can obfuscate/excuse fundamental national competitiveness problems

recent article from last week

Class Size Alone Not Enough To Close Academic Achievement Gap
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080228112004.htm

from above:
"Given that class size reduction is an intervention that benefits all students, it's tempting to expect that it also will reduce the achievement gap," he added. Previous research, however, has provided weak or no evidence that class reduction benefited lower-achieving students more than others. The Northwestern study underscores that research
... snip ...

which seems to say ... increasing resources for all equally doesn't close achievement gaps. in situations where there is limited resources ... is it in socieity's interest to improve the highest achievers or the lowest achievers?

there have been past threads about managers being able to improve the productivity of their employees ... a scenario is manager spending the majority of their time can double an employee's productivity.

where there is productivity distribituion ... the most productive employee representing half the group's productivity and the least productive employee representing five precent of the group's productivity ... for which employee should the manager spend the majority of their time. Past studies have indicated managers spending most of their time with the least productive ... however economic modeling can show that is not in the group's best interest ... a few past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#13 Why? (Was: US Military Dead during Iraq War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#47 time spent/day on a computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#32 ANN: Microsoft goes Open Source

recent past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#52 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#55 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#60 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#81 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#83 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#13 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#63 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

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More on GPS troubles

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: More on GPS troubles
Newsgroups: misc.transport.road,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:51:05
John Varela <OLDlamps@verizon.net> writes:
There are places in the Boston area where, if you miss your left turn or encounter a No Left Turn sign you think, "I'll just go up a block, make a right, a right, and a right and I'll be okay." Uh-uh. You're off into some local streets with no idea how to get out again.

first time i flew in to logan, arrived about 11pm ... i rented a car and it was suppose to be 30 minutes to the hotel. i got caught in one of those ... and it was well after 3am before i got to the hotel.

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EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:10:37
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
http://www.technologynewsdaily.com/node/9331


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#2 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#9 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

Fighting the black market: crypto-locks for CPUs, other ICs
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080309-fighting-the-black-market-crypto-locks-for-cpus-other-ics.html

from above:
Once the circuit's original logic is properly connected to EPIC, a randomly-generated Common Key will be created. This key is communicated to the IP holder and then erased. The chip is then packaged and ready for activation. At power-up, the chip generates a private and public Random Chip Key (RCK-Pri and RCK-Pub), both of which are burned into a set of electrically-programmed fuses. The fab would then send the new IC's RCK-Pub to the owner of the IC itself. Said owner would then transmit an Input Key back to the fab. The Input Key corresponds to the already-communicated Common Key wrapped in a double-encryption layer consisting of the private Master Key and RCK-Pub.
... snip ...

sounding more & more like how they wanted to leverage the work on person-centric solution a decade ago to address the copy-chip problem.

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:17:37
kkt <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
Maybe. The same branch of one bank in Seattle was robbed something like five times in a year. Last I heard the robber was still at large.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers

quicky use of search engine
http://www.bankersonline.com/articles/bhv03n05/bhv03n05a2.html

from above:
1991 Record Breaking Year

The FBI's report on crimes against federally insured financial institutions established 1991 as yet another record breaking year for bank robberies. Statistics for 1991 showed 9,381 bank robberies occurred nationwide, an increase of 20% over 1990's recorded 7,837. The numbers include commercial banks, mutual savings banks, savings and loans, and credit unions.

... snip ...

and
"Robbery Capital Of The World"

If the national robbery statistics reveal a tragic tale, California's are terrifying. In 1991 better than one in three bank robberies in the nation occurred in California-with a large majority taking place in "The Robbery Capital of the World," Los Angeles. If you think bank robbery is a problem in your city, consider Los Angeles where on July 29, 1992, five Bank of America branches were robbed in a single hour. For 1991, the FBI recorded 2,355 bank robberies in its Los Angeles Regional Office, which covers five counties. This far surpasses the earlier record set in 1983 when 1,833 robberies occurred.

... snip ...

my previous comment was that armed robberies would have to increase by maybe a factor of 1000 ... to maybe 10million/annum instead of 10k (or less) ... cybercrime effort is on the order of a armed robbery but ROI can be on the order of 1000 times greater.

also ... bank crime statistics (1jan2006 - 31dec2006)
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/bcs/bcs2006/bank_crime_2006.htm

above lists 7272 robberies, burlaries, and larcenies. "loot" was taken in 6674 (92percent) of the 7272 incidents ... amounting to a total of something less than $73m. Investigation to date identified 39percent of the 9010 persons known to be involved.

by comparison various kinds of identity theft and cybercrime reports losses in the $50b to $500b range (1,000 to 10,000 times that of aggregate bank robberies).

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:26:29
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
by comparison various kinds of identity theft and cybercrime reports losses in the $50b to $500b range (ten to 100 times that of aggregate bank robberies).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#77 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#25 independent appraisers

oops, finger slip ... that should be 1,000 to 10,000 times that of aggregate bank robberies

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was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:46:47
jmfbahciv writes:
My folks are poor. They have always had enough to eat. They knew how to grow it or shoot it or hook it. I don't think diet is the best metric to use. There were "poor and starving" in Appalachia during the prime time of the War on Poverty; this never made any sense to me.

sometime 35-40 yrs ago, there was series of articles about seniors living on social security only being able to afford to buy canned pet food to eat. at the time, we thought 1) people getting social security were receiving huge amount of money, 2) buying canned pet food was extravagent, 3) independent of cost, canned pet food had low nutritional content .... and therefor extremely poor price performance (unimaginable anybody could be so extremely foolish and extravagent to waste good money on canned pet food). There were lots of food stuffs that were both cheaper than canned pet food as well as significantly higher nutritional content.

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US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:57:26
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
Around here, they are not crooks, but they seriously lack expertise. Some of them have been stung by the subprime crises.

i've heard comments about many in the profession would otherwise have a hard time making it as a used car salesman ... similar during S&L crises in the 80s. explanation has been that it nominally requires significant lower competence level to make it in regulated business.

original post in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#71 US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire

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Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:44:04
Marc Auslander <marcslists@optonline.NOSPAM.net> writes:
IIRC, the building was "upgraded" to make it earthquake resistant by adding a new outer shell. I'm surprised that this upgraded version got landmark status. Or am I confused about which building it was?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#25 Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

bldg 28 ("research" before almaden facility was built) was two story cement structure in the form of triangle (with central courtyard) ... when elevated 85 was built it cut thru the bldg. 28 back parking lot. bldg 28 had a seismic retrofit ... basically a new bldg. built around the outside exterior of the old bldg. ... designed to "hold up" the old bldg (in case of earthquake).

not a very good airal picture ... the "gigantic, new" (mid-80s) bldg. 50 is in the mid-center foreground:
http://www.ajnordley.com/IBM/Air/SSD/index.html

bldg. 28 is in the upper right corner of cottle rd & 85 intersection (aka no satellite image)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&output=html&hl=en&q=5600+Cottle+Rd.+San+Jose,+CA+95193&zoom=3

first thing i thot of was that it was bldg. 10(?), one story wood structure to the left of main gate

now i'm having trouble placing which was bldg. 25.

bldg. 12 was hdqtrs straight ahead thru the main gate (and also got a new shell in seismic retrofit).

bldg. 26 was large one story warehouse like bldg that back along cottle rd ... and was mostly large glasshouse datacenter.

i also did a lot of work in bldg 14 & 15 (in row with bldg. 12), disk engineering & disk product test lab. ... to the east & north of bldg. 28
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

most recent google satellite map shows bldg. 12, 26, 28 ... all leveled. bldg 14, 15, & 50 are still standing.

lunchroom (bldg ???) behind bldg. 12 is still standing.

i.e.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

and enter 5600 Cottle Rd, San Jose, Ca.

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Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:03:23
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
now i'm having trouble placing which was bldg. 25.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#18 Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#29 Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

looking at the (google map) satellite photo ... with all the other 02x bldgs. bulldozed ... the remaining bldg. in the 02x line along cottle is the one story wooden bldg. complex at the north of the area along the railroad tracks.

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confluence of virtualization and trusted computing

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: confluence of virtualization and trusted computing
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:29:46
Secret sharers gain security, time; General Dynamics, IBM build NSA program that facilitates dissemination of classified data
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/print/23_04/32398-1.html?topic=security

from above:
The high-assurance platform began in 1999 when NSA's research unit, the National Information Assurance Research Laboratory, created the NetTop program to test whether virtualization could enable the agency to host several secure domains on a single computer.
... snip ...

and
The Trusted Computing Group (TCG), a consortium of almost 200 IT vendors, is also working with the two prime contractors and the agency to ensure that the program meets all regulations and intelligence community requirements.
... snip ...

in some long past visit to the cryptological museum
http://www.nsa.gov/museum/
http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/

i had talked them into letting me have a copy of the MISSI (multi-level security) video tape they played ... i told them i wanted to make a parody of it.

misc. recent posts mentioning trusted computing (and/or giving talk on assurance at trusted computing track at IDF) and/or virtualization:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#18 Remembering the Cray-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#30 hacked TOPS-10 monitors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#41 IT managers stymied by limits of x86 virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#50 IT managers stymied by limits of x86 virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#59 old internal network references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#74 Virtualization Wave
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#3 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#8 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#43 IT managers stymied by limits of x86 virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#0 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#4 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#28 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#61 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#13 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#15 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#16 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#17 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#19 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#20 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#23 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#43 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#44 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#59 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#60 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#91 z10 presentation on 26 Feb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#10 Kernels
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#30 VMware signs deal to embed software in HP servers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#57 Any benefit to programming a RISC processor by hand?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#76 independent appraisers

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:34:58
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#16 independent appraisers

not as big an exposure as UBS ... but some discussion of toxic CDO write-downs:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/14/news/companies/mclean_rbs.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008021507

from above:
RBS said that net of hedges and writedowns, it had GBP 1.1 billion (or roughly $2.2 billion) of high grade CDOs containing commercial loan collateral, prime and subprime mortgage collateral, as well as GBP 1.3 billion (or roughly $2.6 billion) of exposure to "mezzanine CDOs based predominantly on residential mortgage collateral." RBS marked the high grade CDOs at 90% of face value, and the mezzanine CDOs at 70% of face value, citing "outputs from our proprietary model, market data, and prudent valuation adjustments."

Only RBS knows exactly what securities it owns, and the market price can vary dramatically. But a source on a Wall Street trading desk (who is not commenting on RBS specifically), says that in general, the high-grade CDOs are worth between 35 cents on the dollar and 75 cents on the dollar, and the mezzanine CDOs are worth between 10 cents to 50 cents on the dollar. That would imply substantial addition writedowns for RBS.

... snip ...

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EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:54:31
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#2 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#9 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#24 EPIC, Ending Piracy of Integrated Circuits

other aspect of copy-chips

Counterfeit Chips Raise New Terror, Hacking Fears
http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/03/10/1855201.shtml
Could Cheap Chinese Electronics Come to an End?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4253919.html
Counterfeit Chips Raise Big Hacking, Terror Threats, Experts Say
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4253628.html

from above:
Individuals, companies and federal agencies could all be at risk from foreign governments or criminal enterprises. A computer chip built with a subtle error might allow an identity-theft ring to hack past the encryption used to connect customers with their banks. Flash memory hidden inside a corporation's networked printers could save an image file of every document it printed, then send out the information. In a disturbing national-security scenario, overseas agents might be able to hard-wire instructions to bring down a Department of Defense system on a predetermined date or in response to an external trigger. In the time it took to bring the systems back online, a military assault could be underway.
... snip ...

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Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:10:35
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:

http://www.preservation.org/ibm25_background.html


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#30 Historic IBM Building 25 in San Jose destroyed by fire

here is 025 at top left corner of the satellite image with lots of other plant site bldgs/stuff bulldozed
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=5600+Cottle+Rd,+San+Jose,+Ca.&sll=37.242253,-121.804583&sspn=0.015152,0.010128&ie=UTF8&ll=37.24748,-121.800249&spn=0.015151,0.010128&t=k&z=16

satellite image zoom in on 025 ... including the covered walkway from the preservation background photo:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=5600+Cottle+Rd,+San+Jose,+Ca.&sll=37.242253,-121.804583&sspn=0.015152,0.010128&ie=UTF8&ll=37.252764,-121.802128&spn=0.000947,0.000633&t=k&z=20

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confluence of virtualization and trusted computing

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: confluence of virtualization and trusted computing
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:26:57
Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> writes:
I guarantee failure, no matter what they're trying to do. A 200-member committee can't even decide when to have lunch; the only thing they *can* do is design a camel with 200! humps.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#31 confluence of virtualization and trusted computing

a few past references to giving a talk at trusted computing track at past intel developer's forum ... and quiping to the guy running the committee (in the front row) that it was interesting to see that the tpm had started to look more & more like the aads chip strawman over the previous couple of yrs. he quipped back that i didn't have a committee of 200 people helping me with the design.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#48 Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm22.htm#41 FraudWatch - Chip&Pin, a new tenner (USD10)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#56 UK Detects Chip-And-PIN Security Flaw
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#12 #4.2 Simplicity is Inversely Proportional to the Number of Designers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#42 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#36 what does xp do when system is copying
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#57 Any benefit to programming a RISC processor by hand?

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Object-relational impedence

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Object-relational impedence
Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory,comp.object,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:02:57
"David Cressey" <cressey73@verizon.net> writes:
I don't think of 1971, when I wrote the garbage collector for MDL as "the early days of garbage collection." The "early days" would have been in the 1950s when McCarthy wrote the garbage collector for LISP. The MDL garbage collector was more ambitious than the Lisp garbage collector. But I had the advantage of learning from the work that had already been done.

apl also did new storage allocation on every assignment ... and did garbage collection & compaction when space in workspace was exhausted.

the science center (4th flr of 545 tech sq)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

ported apl\360 to cp67/cms ... and had to rework the garbage collection. typical apl\360 workspace was 16kbyte-32kbyte real storage ... and whole workspace was always swapped as single unit.

cms allowed for multiple mbyte (virtual memory, paged) workspaces ... and the apl\360 garbage collection implementation resulted in severe page thrashing ... which had to be redone for virtual memory environment before release of cms\apl.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

part of work on apl virtual memory garbage collection used some application monitoring and modeling tools also done at the science center ... which was eventually released as vs/repack product in the mid-70s (included semi-automated program reorganization for virtual memory operation).

vs/repack technology was used by a number of internal product groups (including various dbms like IMS) as part of transition from real storage to virtual storage environment.

the followon to cp67, vm370 was used (originally on 370/145 in bldg. 28) for the original relational/sql implementation, system/r
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

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Panic in Multicore Land

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Panic in Multicore Land
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:51:25
Panic in Multicore Land
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/03/11/068231.shtml
CPU designers debate multi-core future
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=206105179

above article mentions adapting moore's doubling every 18months from processor speed to number of cores (as way of increasing computing power)

misc past posts mentioning multiprocessors and/or invention of compare&swap instruction for supporting multiprocessor/multithreaded operaton
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

misc. recent posts mentioning multi-core:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#0 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#3 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#35 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#83 CPU time differences for the same job
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#81 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#90 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#26 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#79 Any benefit to programming a RISC processor by hand?

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Stalin, Re: Bush - place in history

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Stalin, Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:40:01
lawrence claimed that extremism was a constant reoccuring theme ... possibly on century intervals. a few past references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#70 If you're going to bullshit, eschew moderation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#14 Why? (Was: US Military Dead during Iraq War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#47 Mickey and friends

most recent scenario is the level of financial resources, planning, and sophistication.

possibly cite the difference between armed bank robberies and cybercrime ... a factor of 10,000 / four orders of magnitude ... recent reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#25 independent appaisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#26 independent appaisers

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Can electronic signature bring us non-repudiation and authenticity?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Can electronic signature bring us non-repudiation and authenticity?
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:42:46
tenxian <hi.steven.tu@gmail.com> writes:
Can digital signature guarantee non-repudiation and authenticity?

recent discussion mentioning the subject in this blog entry:
https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001013.html

there is distinction between "electronic signature" and "digital signature".

after we were brought in to help wordsmith cal. state electronic signature legislation (and then similar federal legislation) ... we would observe that possibly there was enormous semantic confusion stemming from both "digital signature" and "human signature" containing the word "signature". misc. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature

posts in old thread in this n.g. mentioning non-repudiation:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#30 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#34 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#39 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#40 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#41 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#42 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#43 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#44 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#45 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#46 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#47 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#50 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#51 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#52 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#54 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#56 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#57 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#58 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#59 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#60 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#72 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#73 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities

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IBM sees decline in number of U.S IT pros, boom in China

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: IBM sees decline in number of U.S IT pros, boom in China
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:11:13
IBM sees decline in number of U.S IT pros, boom in China
http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid26_gci1305047,00.html

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US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:43:44
kkt <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
I guess that's another regional difference. Checks were frequently used at the grocery store for the weekly shopping. Smaller amounts could be cash.

"back then" ... local grocery store would carry accounts that were cleared when people got their monthly checks (urban) ... or in the fall after harvest (rural). old post w/reference settling accounts after harvest
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#38

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Panic in Multicore Land

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Panic in Multicore Land
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:50:45
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
These are certainly interesting articles. Of course, if the only thing that improves in the future is the number of cores, we are in a lot of trouble. Putting memory on the chip was only briefly mentioned a few times, but it would seem that this should be part of the answer.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#37 Panic in Multicore Land

Microsoft's Top Visionary Sees A Parallel World; Craig Mundie, Microsoft's chief research and strategy officer, is sure he has a good handle on where technology is going. When is another story.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206903390

from above:
Mundie, who took over as Microsoft's lead visionary from co-founder Bill Gates in 2006, is preparing the company for a technology shift that he expects will be as big as the rise of the personal computer or the Internet: parallel computing.
... snip ...

past ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#90 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path

post from last year mentioning older thread on the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#78 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies

also referenced in the post:

Microsoft super sizes multi-threaded tripe:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/01/mundie_mundie/

from above:
Microsoft, to its credit, has multi-threaded the calculations in Office Excel 2007. But that's about where the credit ends.

Intel and AMD executives fail to hide their disappointment with Microsoft well on the multi-threaded software front.

During a speech last June, Intel SVP Pat Gelsinger said the following:

"A couple of years ago, I had a discussion with Bill Gates (about the multi-core products). He was just in disbelief. He said, 'We can't write software to keep up with that.'"

Gates ordered the Intel executive to keep pumping out faster product. "No, Bill, it's not going to work that way," Gelsinger informed him.

... snip ...

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:10:51
tv business channel just ran story about possibly bringing reed back in to clean up situation at citibank
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers

they mentioned that reed never liked investment banking ... however he was replaced in the citibank takeover. followup/update says that reed is currently consulting for free to citibank.

reed wiki article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Reed

the above mentions takeover of citibank occured after repeal Glass-Steagall. however the pbs program mentioned in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

says that repeal of Glass-Steagall (eliminating separation of commercial and investment banking) didn't happen until after the takeover of citibank.

monday had lots of news about innovative approach federal reserve taking to trying to contain the toxic CDO mess ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers

aka traditional approach changing prime rate wasn't having much effect; even tho much of problem went on outside of federal reserve regulatory authority ... banks & others, clearing mortgages as securitized instruments thru wallstreet and then being brought back in on the investment banking side ... and something that wouldn't have affected banks while Glass-Steagall was in effect (keeping commercial banks and investment banking separate).

other posts mentioning repeal of Glass-Steagall:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers

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A new mathematical object was revealed yesterday

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: A new mathematical object was revealed yesterday
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:45:18
Glimpses Of A New (mathematical) World
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080313124415.htm
A new mathematical object was revealed yesterday during a lecture at the American Institute of Mathematics (AIM).
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-03/aiom-goa031308.php

from above:
Two researchers from the University of Bristol exhibited the first example of a third degree transcendental L-function. These L-functions encode deep underlying connections between many different areas of mathematics.

The news caused excitement at the AIM workshop attended by 25 of the world's leading analytic number theorists. The work is a joint project between Ce Bian and his adviser, Andrew Booker. Booker commented that, "This work was made possible by a combination of theoretical advances and the power of modern computers." During his lecture, Bian reported that it took approximately 10,000 hours of computer time to produce his initial results.

... snip ...

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:05:08
China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://news.zdnet.com/2110-1035_22-6234242.html

from above:
China has surpassed the United States to become the world's largest Internet market by number of users, a research firm said on Thursday. The estimate by Beijing-based BDA was based on data from China Internet Network Information Center, which indicated that the country's Internet users totaled 210 million at the end of 2007. Nielsen/NetRatings put the United States Web population at 216 million for the same period, BDA said.
... snip ...

misc. past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#6 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#7 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#34 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#35 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#52 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#57 IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#68 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#42 Experts: Education key to U.S. competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#13 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#20 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#21 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#15 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#18 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#21 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#23 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#31 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#32 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#39 India is outsourcing jobs as well
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#33 Students mostly not ready for math, science college courses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#36 Students mostly not ready for math, science college courses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#70 Latest OECD broadband data puts US in middle of the pack on speed, price
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#32 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#67 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#2 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#13 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#18 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#31 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#35 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#43 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#28 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#62 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#65 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#68 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#87 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#6 Science and Engineering Indicators 2008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#78 Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#46 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#56 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#86 U.S. Science Funding Hits a Political Wall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#71 US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:54:50
recent toxic CDO casualty with some computer folklore connection:
Lou Gerstner-Led Carlyle Group on Brink of Collapse
http://www.crn.com/hardware/206903543


wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_V._Gerstner,_Jr.


part of the above reference to trouble turning IBM around was balkanized culture ... which has somewhat been attributed to the aftermath of the failure of the future system effort
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

this older reference with some references from Fergus/Morris book discussing corporate culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33

there have been some claims that part of the IBM turn around was done by moving the employee pension plan from liability column to the asset column (possibly making it vulnerable to creditors in any sort of down turn or trouble) ... past ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#22 IBM Unionization

other Carlyle references:
Carlyle fails in Negotiations, Banks may seize Assets
http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/20080313/carlyle_fails_in_negotiations_banks_may_seize_assets-id-1018813.html
Carlyle Capital Stock Plunges On Bank Seizures
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080313\ACQRTT200803131629RTTRADERUSEQUITY_1372.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Carlyle%20Capital%20Stock%20Plunges%20On%20Bank%20Seizures
Anatomy of a Carlyle Collapse
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/13/AR2008031303927.html?hpid=topnews
Markets volatile as Carlyle fund fails
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/13/business/markets.php
European Stocks End Dn On Carlyle News
http://biznes.onet.pl/5,1710243,wiadomosci.html


and
Lex - Carlyle Capital
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/1/1a9b21cc-f169-11dc-a91a-0000779fd2ac.html


from above:
What is shocking is that Carlyle Capital has been done in by wobbles in agency triple-A mortgage-backed securities, the only assets in its portfolio, the fund said yesterday.
... snip ...

other recent toxic CDO postings:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers

earlier post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers

with reference to PBS program on Glass-Steagall repeal
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

another quote from above:
On Oct. 21, with the House-Senate conference committee deadlocked after marathon negotiations, the main sticking point is partisan bickering over the bill's effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, which sets rules for lending to poor communities. Sandy Weill calls President Clinton in the evening to try to break the deadlock after Senator Phil Gramm, chairman of the Banking Committee, warned Citigroup lobbyist Roger Levy that Weill has to get White House moving on the bill or he would shut down the House-Senate conference.
... snip ...

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WWII

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: WWII
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:38:46
for other topic drift ... the navy in china ... SACO
http://www.geocities.com/navgruchina/
http://www.delsjourney.com/saco/saco.htm
http://www.computersmiths.com/china1945/index.html

Anne has vague memories of references to Billy & Mary (Miles) from her childhood in China ... and possibly that Billy may have been one of the wives with them on the Repose in Tsingtao,

misc. past posts mentioning her & her mother living on the Repose in Tsingtao harbor for 3 months:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#3 The 8008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#27 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#33 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#27 Mount DASD as read-only
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#44 Universal constants
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#86 IBM Unionization

from SACO bibliography

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Wintel, Universities Team On Parallel Programming

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Wintel, Universities Team On Parallel Programming
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:08:15
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#81 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#90 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#24 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#26 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path

Wintel, Universities Team On Parallel Programming
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/03/14/1534227.shtml
Wintel will fund parallel software lab at Berkeley
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206503988
Researchers ready system to explore parallel computing
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206903492

from above:
The so-called Berkeley Emulation Engine version 3 (BEE3) aims to help researchers quickly prototype processors with hundreds or thousands of cores and try out new ways of programming them. Launched as a project by the University of California at Berkeley, the latest version was designed as a commercially available system with significant help from Microsoft Research.
... snip ...

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How do OTP tokens work?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How do OTP tokens work?
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:41:07
Nick Owen <owen.nick@gmail.com> writes:
That is correct, the one-time passcode is usually sent with the PIN, providing the two-factors. There is a potential for a race attack, but that is mitigated by use of encryption such as SSL,

one-time passcode are nominally countermeasure to (MITM) evesdropping and replay attacks ... challenge-response, with unique challenge values, is also a countermeasure to (MITM) evesdropping and replay attack (and challenge-response can occur within SSL envelope as easily as OTP operation). misc. past posts mentioning MITM vulnerabilities:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#mitm

OTP tokens tend to have an orientation somewhat similar to passwords. From kindergarten, security 101, institutions tend to require a unique shared-secret (that are impossible to remember and change every couple weeks) for every unique security domain ... as a countermeasure to cross-domain attacks (say local garage ISP and large corporate employer or financial institution).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#secrets

OTP tokens tend to be similarly limited ... effectively institutional-centric ... if they were ever to really catch one, a person would have to carry as many OTP tokens (one for every unique security domain) as they currently require (shared-secret) passwords (large scores of such tokens). This is one of the seductive problems that most CSOs don't consider when specifying institutional-centric authentication solution (whether password-based or token-based).

from 3-factor authentication paradigm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#3factor
something you havesomething you knowsomething you are
... multi-factor authentication is nominally assumed to be more secure based on independent threats/attacks.

one of the problems is that there has been an increasing number of attacks involving compromised end-points. most of the existing authentication implementations (including SSL, VPNs, etc) are focused around session operations (independent of the authentication mechanism) as countermeasure to stuff like evesdropping threats; the issue is that they don't provide any sort of countermeasure to end-point compromises ... this was something identified well over a decade ago for home computers using various VPN operations into corporate networks

recent thread on spate of threats/vulnerabilities specifically focused on end-point compromises for attacking home banking operations (that rely on session-based authentication operations)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#41 Trojan with Everything, To Go!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#42 Trojan with Everything, To Go!

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Toyota's Value Innovation: The Art of Tension

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Toyota's Value Innovation: The Art of Tension
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:11:41
Toyota's Value Innovation: The Art of Tension
http://elegantsolutions.typepad.com/elegant_solutions/2008/02/toyotas-value-i.html

above recent blog entry reference in this Boyd-related post from last week:

Can Boyd be implemented?
http://www.chetrichards.com/c2w/2008/03/13/can-boyd-be-implemented/

some past posts mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
and misc URLs from around the web mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd2

recent reference to GM $39b loss and likely significant cutbacks:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production

recent Toyota thread (and/or posts mentioning US automobile C4 effort):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#28 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#48 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#65 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#80 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#86 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#56 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#59 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#76 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#1 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#6 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#8 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#14 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#16 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#17 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#19 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#20 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#25 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#44 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#46 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#56 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#63 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#66 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#68 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#69 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#71 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#89 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#90 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#91 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#0 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#4 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#9 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#10 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#26 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#30 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#31 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#31 IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:02:55
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
UBS fire-sale
http://www.financialnews-us.com/?page=ushome&contentid=2449999494

from above:

Analysts said they believed the Swiss bank had sold its Alt-A investments to Pimco for 70 cents on the dollar, taking a deep discount on a CHF26.6bn ($25.7bn) portfolio. UBS' shares fell 4% to CHF30.92 after touching a new five-year low of CHF30.88, more than the 1.2% fall in the DJ Stoxx European bank index.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers

another aspect of UBS and toxic CDOs:

UBS 'dumped' toxic securities on bank
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ubs-dumped-toxic-securities-on-bank-788018.html

from above:
The German regional bank HSH Nordbank made the allegation in a lawsuit yesterday, which claimed it had lost at least $275m in a fraudulent mortgage-derivatives scheme cooked up by UBS in 2002.

From the start of the investment, whose complex structure netted UBS a $120m profit on day one, to its ignominious collapse in value when the credit crisis began last summer, UBS had put its own interests over those of HSH, it was claimed.

... snip ...

UBS Hit by Another Lawsuit
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/mar2008/db2008035_449458.htm?chan=globalbiz_europe+index+page_finance%2C+markets+%2Bamp%3B+investing

from above:
Swiss bank UBS, already smarting from one investor lawsuit, is facing allegations from a hedge fund that it marketed securities as investment grade that the bank knew were destined for junk status. Pursuit Partners, a Stamford (Conn.)-based hedge fund, claims in a Mar. 5 lawsuit that it bought collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs, from UBS last year based on "fraudulent concealment" of material information.
... snip ...

also from above:
The changes at Moody's involved how the CDOs were valued. Under the company's previous formula, the securities were priced at current market prices. But as the market for securitized subprime mortgages collapsed and ratings agencies faced criticism over how they had rated CDOs, Moody's elected to change to a market-based formula, one focused on where prices were heading, rather than on current prices. That change would result in the immediate drop of supposedly safe mortgage-backed securities into the realm of junk.
... snip ...

other recent toxic CDO posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers

older posts mentioning toxic CDO analytics:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#66 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#70 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM

sporadically cited post from decade ago mentioning issues with mortgage securitization:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

another recent article mentioning toxic CDO analytics:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/02/14/swaps-sink-aig.aspx

from above:
AIG's (NYSE: AIG) announcement that it had "material weaknesses" in its accounting for credit default swaps on collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) is like yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater -- you can be certain there will be mass panic. The stampede for the exits left the stock at a five-year low. Let's take a closer look.
... snip ...

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:17:39
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
Somewhat the same thing happened in Lloyds when they had their crises back, when?..15-20 years ago, the dud policies were unloaded to unsuspecting clients. Later the victims recovered some of their losses, but people who had to sell property to cover their debts did not get back to where they started. The Lawyers, as always, won.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#51 independent appraisers

others are at it also

Banks sell risky portions of CDOs to public pension funds
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/03/bloomberg/bxcdo.php
Banks Sell 'Toxic Waste' CDOs to Calpers, Texas Teachers Fund
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&refer=home&sid=aW5vEJn3LpVw

from above:
The California Public Employees' Retirement System, the nation's largest public pension fund, has invested $140 million in such unrated CDO portions, according to data Calpers provided in response to a public records request. Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, sold the tranches to Calpers.
... snip ...

somewhat older:

Barclays 'toxic waste' row with German bank settled
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2005/feb/15/8

more recent:

Leveraged debt and the current debt crisis (In the shadows of an Unregulated Market)
http://polizeros.com/tag/cdo/

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:07:40
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Leveraged debt and the current debt crisis (In the shadows of an Unregulated Market)
http://polizeros.com/tag/cdo/


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#52 independent appraisers

above attempts to explain that investmenting banks, carlyse, et al,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers

... weren't looking at 300percent roi ... previous post referring to speculators:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers

but talking about 30times leverage.

there is some crash of 29 description, in part happening because of excessive margin investing ... with as little as 20percent ... drop of 20percent in price wipes the investor out (and any bigger drop requires additional money from the investor). one of the rule changes (besides Glass-Steagall) was requiring minimum of 80percent (attempt to put brakes on enormous speculation and corresponding inflation).

the referenced webpage shows a graph (originally from a nyt's article) that this 30times leveraging market started at zero in 2000 and hit 45trillion start of this year. The cycle of buying toxic CDOs, using it as collaterial to borrow and buy additional toxic CDOs ... and repeated 30times ... implies that the investment banks possibly put in only 1.5trillion leveraged 30times to 45trillion. that implies only 3percent ... the margin speculation corollary is that a 3percent drop totally wipes all of them out. The graph shows this 45trillion totally swamping the combined value of US stock market, mortgage security market, and the US treasuries market.

from the article:
The alphabet soup seems thick and opaque, but don't let the jargon confuse you. Here is the crucial point: almost all of these "securities" were unfunded debt, i.e. money equivalents created from thin air. All they did was to generate more and more "buying power" to boost asset prices higher, from houses in the Inland Empire of California to share prices in New York, London and Shanghai. In case it is still unclear: it was margin debt.
... snip ...

and ...
In other words, this entire pyramid of bizarre financial instruments was created and paid for with borrowed money. A hedge fund borrows ten million to create CDOs, which they then use as collateral to borrow more money to create even more debt instruments. Some hedge funds and investments can be leveraged 30 to 1 or more on this. That means they've bought $30 worth of securities on credit for every actual dollar they have. So, just a few mild breezes could easily knock such a house of cards down. Especially when some of what they bought is now worthless or selling for pennies on the dollar assuming a buyer could be found.
... snip ...

it somewhat makes the societe generale broker appear to be cheap piker
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#44 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#26 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM

article from last sept.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/SuperModels/AreWeHeadedForAnEpicBearMarket.aspx

from above:
Here's how it worked: In olden days, like 10 years ago, banks wrote and funded their own loans. In the new game, Das points out, banks "originate" loans, "warehouse" them on their balance sheet for a brief time, then "distribute" them to investors by packaging them into derivatives called collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs, and similar instruments. In this scheme, banks don't need to tie up as much capital, so they can put more money out on loan.
... snip ...

and ...
Turning $1 into $20

The liquidity factory was self-perpetuating and seemingly unstoppable. As assets bought with borrowed money rose in value, players could borrow more money against them, and it thus seemed logical to borrow even more to increase returns. Bankers figured out how to strip money out of existing assets to do so, much as a homeowner might strip equity from his house to buy another house.

These triple-borrowed assets were then in turn increasingly used as collateral for commercial paper -- the short-term borrowings of banks and corporations -- which was purchased by supposedly low-risk money market funds.

... snip ...

and ...
CDOs were first widely used back in the late 1980s by Drexel Burnham Lambert junk-bond king Michael Milken to sell off damaged and previously unsellable debt in a way that was more palatable to customers.
... snip ...

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How do OTP tokens work?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How do OTP tokens work?
Newsgroups: comp.security.unix
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:05:23
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
OTP tokens tend to be similarly limited ... effectively institutional-centric ... if they were ever to really catch one, a person would have to carry as many OTP tokens (one for every unique security domain) as they currently require (shared-secret) passwords (large scores of such tokens). This is one of the seductive problems that most CSOs don't consider when specifying institutional-centric authentication solution (whether password-based or token-based).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#49 How do OTP tokens work?

in general, unique values on each authentication are countermeasures to replay attacks .... frequently when there are evesdropping, skimming, harvesting, etc vulnerabilities.

unique transmitted values can be based on a secret shared between the two end-points ... in which case, they still come under various shared-secret guidelines (like unique shared-secret for different, unique security domains). An institutional orientation frequently is that there is one and only one such relationship for a person ... and the institution can make it as difficult and onerous as possible ... since they are the only one (whether it is frequently changed, impossible to remember passwords or tokens that have to be carried, aka it is possible for both something you know and something you have authentication mechanisms to be based on underlying shared-secret).

as the electronic institutional relationships have proliferated ... the proliferating shared-secret based paradigm has become onerous for individuals (whether the shared-secrets are expressed as static information or implemented with some sort of unique value each time).

person-centric paradigm would allow an individual to use some common authentication mechanism across the rapidly proliferating institutional relationships (and significantly mitigate the increasingly onerous load being placed on individuals by institutional centric approaches).

a likely institutional-centric transition to token infrastructure would start to substitute a token for each of the large scores of passwords that an individuals currently have to deal with. this would be akin to individuals that walk around with 30-40 keys on large ring tethered to their side (only possibly much worse, instead of a few scores of physical keys ... there could be several times that number of tokens).

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WWII

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: WWII
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:25:18
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
• A copy of "A Different Kind of War" by Milton E. Miles and Hawthorne Daniel, ©1967. The Definitive work on SACO and Naval Group China.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#47 WWII

Anne had autographed copy that had been lent out ... took a little bit of work to track down who had it ... hopefully will have it back soon.

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:02:00
jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) writes:
As someone noted, that will be a long time. But even the shorter time until China becomes a "larger market" than the U.S. in the sense of actually being able to *sell something* to the Chinese who are connected to the Internet in larger quantities than to the Americans is likely a very long time.

China is, after all, a very low cost producer of just about anything. And, on top of that, there is the fact that it is a totalitarian dictatorship, with the restrictions in access to that market this implies.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#45 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

things may be changing significantly faster than some projections

looking for world petroleum production & consumption ... here is table for 2001
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/oil.html

with US at 20 million barrels/day, followed by japan (5.4mb/d) and china (4.9mb/d). Article also says for 1981 to 2001, avg world oil consumption remained constant at 4.47barrel per capita (even though US avg. is significantly higher than most of the rest of the world).

most of the web references seem to be fairly consistent that there is a few decades left of oil ... with various scenarios regarding rate of consumption increase vis-a-vis new finds.

this
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/pdf/ieohecon.pdf

is international energy outlook 2007 ... for 1990-2030 ... total energy (not just petroleum).

However, this article from last week says that China spending on crude oil imports increased by 35 times between 1999 and now:
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10853534

which seems to be greater than this summary from last year:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/ieo/highlights.html

This article (also from last week) says that projected China's increase in CO2 emissions (tied to energy consumption) had been between 2.5 to 5 percent per annum while new data indicates that it is at least 11percent
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/03/10_chinaco2.shtml

This article from last nov

Warning on Impact of China and India Oil Demand
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/business/07cnd-energy.html

says that over the last two years, China and India accounted for 70percent of the world's increase in energy demand.

But it seems that use of energy (and presumably corresponding economic growth) has increased significantly more over the past couple years than previously projected.

This article says that 1995 to 2005 that there was compound annual growth in diesel use of 11percent:
http://www.chinagushan.com/en/marketandregulations/energy.htm

and

China's Future in an Energy-Constrained World:
http://earthtrends.wri.org/updates/node/274

from above:
In the last quarter century, China's breakneck economic growth has lifted over 50 million people out of poverty and tripled energy demand. Experts predict that China will surpass the United States to become the world's largest consumer of energy and fossil fuels soon after 2010. And because of its heavy reliance on coal, China already emits more carbon dioxide than any country on earth.
... snip ...

The above also has table showing 2005 avg per capita energy demand (oil tons equivalent)


US     7.8
Russia 4.49
Japan  4.15
EU     4.12
China  1.31
India   .47

there also is a graph showing total country energy demand 1971-2005 and China's total energy demand has sharp uptick from 2003 and 2005 (approaching 50percent). If that slope has continued, China's total energy demand may have already exceeded the US.

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independent appraisers

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: independent appraisers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:20:25
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
and ...

CDOs were first widely used back in the late 1980s by Drexel Burnham Lambert junk-bond king Michael Milken to sell off damaged and previously unsellable debt in a way that was more palatable to customers.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers

the old standby post from a decade ago
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

talks about information security providing transparency for securitized mortgages (CDOs) ... so that there isn't so much obfuscation (and things like triple-A ratings happening) ... more recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#41 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers

and recent post mentioning analytics:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

as to what happened starting late friday:

Bear Stearns: A timeline
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/17/bcntime117.xml

news today repeated that Bear Stearns (and many of their customers) had leverage of 30:1 in this market (and as high of 44:1 leverage last summer, subsequently brought down to 30:1) ... aka implies a 3percent drop in value totally wipes them out ... something, at a minimum, happening with triple-A rating being lost.

two things going on ...

significant over valuation (like triple-A rating for CDOs that subsequently were significantly downrated)

30:1 leverage ... 3percent downturn wipes out the investment (contrast to the aftermath of 29 when "leverage" requirements were increased from 20percent to 80percent)

...

Other numbers claim that there is a total valuation of $45trillion (possibly only $1.5trillion cash at 30:1 leverage?) in this market ... so $30b federal bail-out at bear stearns would represent only a drop in the bucket.
http://polizeros.com/tag/cdo

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:53:21
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
No. Sun-Yat Sen had a vision and created an ideology, but was pretty ineffective in government. That task fell to Chiang-Kai-Check, but also he was eventually outmanouvered by the reds.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#45 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#56 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

my wife's mother told of attending dinners with the general and his wife in nanking ... recent reference to living in china:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#47 WWII
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#55 WWII

they were airlifted out of the city in army cargo plane on 3hrs notice when the city was ringed.

past post mentioning the general's wife and her sisters ... one loved money, one loved power, one loved china ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#19 Message To America's Students: The War, The Draft, Your Future

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:07:17
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
I estimate that the energy consumption of China will rise to the EU/Japan level within 2030, if the energy is available, and that India will follow at a slower pace.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#45 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#56 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#58 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

total country consumption may have already happened (possibly more recent trends) or will have happened "shortly after 2010" (older analysis). per capita projections seem to only happen assuming "if the energy is available" (aka new sources replace current common sources that are rapidly being depleated and for which there is increasing competition)

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:55:13
Walter Bushell <proto@xxx.com> writes:
How did Russia end up using more energy per capital than Japan, considering the difference in living standards this shows the importance of energy efficiency.

Or perhaps that Japan imports a *lot* of food and the energy used is accounted for elsewhere. The US exports a lot of agricultural stuff too, perhaps that is part of the reason our energy consumption is high. Our basic food crops are manufactured from oil.


past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#45 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#56 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#58 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#59 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

large industrial plants can be very energy inefficient ... wide varieity of items go into aggregate country energy use. per capita energy use is taken as aggregate country energy use divided by population. it doesn't require that any of the actual aggregate energy use contributes to individual standard of living. one could conjecture scenarios where nearly none of a country's aggregate energy use (or at least that comingly measured) contributes to individual standard of living.

another measure is country aggregate GDP ... and its per capita value (GDP divided by population) ... however, what is the actual distribution and/or what percentage is actually owned by foreign interests. for the most part, most of US exports have been by US organizations (and not by foreign corporations depleting resources). A lot of past "colonization" (and/or other similar activity) in the world has purely been for foreign interests.

some of this might also be taken from the view of globalization and transition to knowledge-based economy (from industrial and/or agriculture) ... where earlier ages, wealth (and/or standard of living) was much more directly correlated to natural resources and energy consumption.

wiki GDP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_Domestic_Product

from above:
The major disadvantage of using GDP as an indicator of standard of living is that it is not, strictly speaking, a measure of standard of living. GDP is intended to be a measure of particular types of economic activity within a country. Nothing about the definition of GDP suggests that it is necessarily a measure of standard of living. For instance, in an extreme example, a country which exported 100 per cent of its production and imported nothing would still have a high GDP, but a very poor standard of living.
... snip ...

an example of problems with GDP measures is that food stuffs produced by local labor for local consumption doesn't show up as GDP. There can be a scenario where people have an extremely healthy diet ... but modern influences won't account for it unless the food is sold to large conglomerate and then bought back.

One could claim that much of standard of living (and wealth) in Japan has little to do with native natural resources (other than knowledge and skills) ... recent threads touching on competitiveness in modern global economy:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#28 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#48 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#62 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#65 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#68 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#80 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#86 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#87 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#6 Science and Engineering Indicators 2008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#56 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#59 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#76 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#78 Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#1 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#6 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#8 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#14 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#16 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#17 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#19 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#20 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#25 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#44 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#46 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#56 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#63 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#66 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#68 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#69 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#71 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#89 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#90 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#91 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#0 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#4 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#9 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#10 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#21 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#26 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#30 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#31 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#38 outsourcing moving up value chain
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#86 U.S. Science Funding Hits a Political Wall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#94 The Economic Impact of Stimulating Broadband Nationally
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#13 Nat'l Surface Transportion Policy & Revenue Study Cmsn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#71 US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#50 Toyota's Value Innovation: The Art of Tension

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Primaries (USA)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Primaries (USA)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:24:42
D.J. <jollycamper72@cableone.net> writes:
We have satellite becasue its cheaper. But frankly, the whole hdtv thing is not necessary.

It might be useful for a few programs like mountains or sea adventures, but I have no desire to see game shows and commercials in hd.


it is digital (rather than analog) signal and digital electronics issue.

a couple decades ago ... there was a bunch of stuff about hdtv pushing high-end electronics and being able to leverage consumer electronic volumes (and who ever dominated hdtv electronics could come to dominate the electronic industry). at the time, it was also seen as mechanism for breakout of PC technology into wider population (and it was before the internet becoming the silver bullet for expanding PC technology into the general population).

a decade ago there was a reference that congress was falling short of actually having a balanced budget ... and somebody brought up the huge revenue that was coming in bandwidth/spectrum auctions. Mandating the switch to HDTV, frees up a lot of frequency, then the projected revenue from auctioning those freed spectrum closes the gap on being able to claim a balanced budget (i.e. the numbers on "reaching" a balanced budget had been for some theoritical planned budget in the future).

recent reference to balancing the budget with frequency/spectrum auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#43 dig. TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#47 dig. TV

other past posts mentioning hdtv
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#11 Is Al Gore The Father of the Internet?^
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#73 how old are you guys
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#2 FCC rulemakings on HDTV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#23 OT - Internet Explorer V6.0
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#25 The 8008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#45 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#62 Cray-1 Anniversary Event - September 21st
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#63 Microsoft to design its own CPUs - Next Xbox In Development
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#50 Is computer history taugh now?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#50 US or China?

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:34:52
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
Formidable women, was the family name Song, Soong?. On to Wikipedia. Soong.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#58 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

.... from wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soong_sisters
The Soong Sisters were three women whose husbands were amongst China's most significant political figures of the early 20th century. They each played a major role in influencing their husbands, which ultimately changed the course of Chinese history.

Soong Ai-ling

The eldest and the one who "loved money," was married to the richest man and finance minister of China, H.H. Kung.

Soong Ching-ling

The one who "loved China," was married to Father of Modern China and first President of the Republic of China, Sun Yat-sen. She became joint President of the People's Republic of China with Dong Biwu from 1968 to 1972 and Honorary President in 1981, just before the passing of the Constitution of 1982.

Soong May-ling

Youngest and the one who "loved power," was married to the leader of the Kuomintang (KMT) , Generalissimo of the Chinese armies, and later President, Chiang Kai-shek.

... other items
• Their father was American-educated Methodist minister Charlie Soong, who made a fortune in banking and printing. Their mother was Ni Kwei-tseng.

• Their three brothers were all high ranking officials in the Republic of China government, one of whom was the famous T. V. Soong.

... snip ...

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Antivirus Inventor: Security Departments Are Wasting Their Time

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Antivirus Inventor: Security Departments Are Wasting Their Time
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:58:25
Antivirus Inventor: Security Departments Are Wasting Their Time
http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=145224

from above:
In a presentation here yesterday, Tippett -- who is vice president of risk intelligence for Verizon Business, chief scientist at ICSA Labs, and the inventor of the program that became Norton AntiVirus -- said that about one third of today's security practices are based on outmoded or outdated concepts that don't apply to today's computing environments.
... snip ...

recent threads referencing antivirus software becoming obsolete
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#2 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#4 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#6 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#8 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#9 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#11 Death of antivirus software imminent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#0 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#3 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#4 folklore indeed

including: Virtualization still hot, death of antivirus software imminent, VC says
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/121707-crystal-ball-virtualization.html

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Panic in Multicore Land

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Panic in Multicore Land
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:06:14
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
Memory protection is when the CPU stops a computer program allocated half the available ram from accessing the other half. Normally the sign of a bug. The trap can also be used to implement virtual memory.

another, more recent is no-execute ... allowing data fetch/stores but preventing instruction fetches from the locations; countermeasure to wide variety (of mostly c-language environment related) buffer overflow, etc vulnerabilities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#overflow

after a decade or so of programming practices and program analysis tools promising to eliminate the exploits ... hardware venders came up with a mechanism to mitigate the severity ... it doesn't actually prevent the overflows ... but a common scenario was pushing executable instructions into the areas and then causing control to go to that location.

a couple past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#37 Panic in Multicore Land
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#42 Panic in Multicore Land

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:06:35
Walter Bushell <proto@xxx.com> writes:
Or perhaps that Japan imports a *lot* of food and the energy used is accounted for elsewhere. The US exports a lot of agricultural stuff too, perhaps that is part of the reason our energy consumption is high. Our basic food crops are manufactured from oil.

i vaguely remember some stat that at the beginning of last century 1 out of 7 people in the country worked on farms producing food, but somewhere past the middle of the last century that had dropped to 1 out of 49 (the human labor being replaced mostly by various petroleum related products).

in the past i've hypothezied that the value of a gal. of gasoline was on the order of 15+ dollars ... and a lot of economic activity evolved leveraging the difference between the price of a gallon and the value of the gallon ... and because of the big difference between the price and value ... a lot of use developed that wouldn't likely be considered contributing to the country's GDP.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#56 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#59 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#60 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

general advances around the world has significantly increased the demand for petroleum products ... with the increased competition there is willingness to bid up the price.

various results:

lots of lower value uses may be priced out of the petroleum market as the price closes the gap with the value of particular uses.

(in any competitive situation) higher value uses will be able to bid a higher price (outbid lower value uses)

economic niches that have become used to low-value petroleum uses will face some disruption.

globalization, distribution systems, etc ... will drive to global prices (leveling difference between price at well heads and delivery any where in the world).

...

there is recent complaining that with the rise in petroleum prices is 1) increasing (national) transportation costs for food and 2) corn growers are finding they can get a higher price for corn in the ethenol market (than in the food market) ... also driving up food prices (even tho the current corn->ethenol process uses more energy than the resulting gas).

the net is that the least competitive uses are going to be the ones that suffer the most with increasing price and competition for petroleum.

past posts mentioning petroleum value and/or difference between price and value:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#4 some VLIW (IA-64) projections from January, 1999...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#6 medium term future of the human race
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#7 Big Brother -- Re: National IDs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#9 Big Brother -- Re: National IDs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#13 Big Brother -- Re: National IDs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#64 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#20 Parallel programming again (Re: Intel announces "CT" aka
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#63 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#67 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#68 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#0 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#17 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#43 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#13 Nat'l Surface Transportion Policy & Revenue Study Cmsn

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IBM System 64

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM System 64
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:37:36
Tim Shoppa <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> writes:
Take the N,B, and I, permute them, and subtract one from N and I'm at IBM... (Seems fitting since I just read about Arthur C Clarke and am reminded of HAL + 1 = IBM.)

an old boss in the company (for a time, I was his only direct report) later left and started HaL in the early 90s ... to do a 64bit sparc ... funded mostly by fujitsu.

some old hal references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#28 Most dangerous product the mainframe has ever seen
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#40 Computers in movies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#32 Amusing acronym
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#17 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript

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Virtualization's security threats

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Virtualization's security threats
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:33:41
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#35 confluence of virtualization and trusted computing

Virtualization's security threats
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9069638

from above:
In the case of virtualization, the NSA has worked with EMC's VMware unit, IBM, AMD, Trusted Computing Group, and others for several years to identify potential threats and suggest workarounds. Later this year, chips from AMD and Intel will include technology that the NSA has helped develop.
... snip ...

reference to 40yr old flavor:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

other recent posts referencing the above URL:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#4 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#60 Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#32 Interesting Mainframe Article: 5 Myths Exposed

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Virtualization's security threats

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Virtualization's security threats
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:51:06
jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) writes:
I am amused that the article explains that virtualization was first invented to meet a security need of the NSA, away back in 2001.

I suppose that means that VM/CMS was chopped liver.

If the NSA merely helped develop a way for the hypervisor to let graphics cards know which virtual machine is running at a given moment, there may be no reason for nervousness this time.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#67 Virtualization's security threats

modulo the reference to cp67/cms ... predating vm/cms, orange book, lots of stuff:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

i've commented before ... i didn't hear about this stuff until yrs later ... however as an undergraduate, I would periodically get requests to address certain kinds of issues with cp67 changes ... which would get added to the product. later i suspected some of the kinds of requests originated from gov. agencies. in the 90s, i periodically commented that some of the desktop oriented systems didn't even know what they didn't know about the subject.

virtual machines date from the mid-60s when the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

added hardware virtual memory capability to a 360/40 and created cp/40 ... later when standard virtual memory support became available on 360/67, cp/40 morphed into cp/67. the last week in jan68, 3 people from the science center came out to the univ. to install cp67. later at the spring 68 SHARE meeting in houston, cp67 was announced (40+yrs now).

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:55:49
jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) writes:
Although anything that extends world hunger is bad, this is one diversion of food that is not an unmixed disaster. The widespread use of corn syrup as a sweetener is said, because of certain characteristics of the sugars in it, to be a major contributor to the recent increases in obesity.

If corn is used for gasoline, and honest beet sugar if not cane sugar is used for sweetening, we will be better nourished in the rich countries.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#64 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

for a time, one of the largest (sugar) beet growing areas was mentioned in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#7 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

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Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:25:39
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the major articles have been about the poor competitiveness of this country (overall & specifically the education system) vis-a-vis other countries ... and the resulting competitiveness/economic disadvantage it places the country. in the past, abundance of natural resources in the country have somewhat been able to compensate for difficiencies of the citizens.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#63 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

so less than half the high school graduates may have high school education ... however, this morning there was also news item about new study claiming that only 2/3rds of current 9th graders will actually graduate (separate from whether those that graduate have a high school education).

recently they broadcast hearings on H1B visas and one of the congressmen asked something about whether there should be preference given to immigrants with actual skills ... the response sidestepped the question by noting that the number of H1B visas don't even show up as a blip on the total number of (legal) immigrants.

it wasn't clear what had prompted the question ... whether there was belief that the only way to improve the country's avg skill level is with imports (and giving skill preferences) ... or possibly that if businesses, having to deal with large unskilled populations, believed that (unskilled) foreigners provided a more productive (and less expensive) group.

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:33:08
sidd@situ.com () writes:
Mr. Volcker states that the Fed stepped into the vacuum, becoz nobody else would, including the legislators who should have made new rules including those for tightened supervision of investment banks, hedge funds, SIVs and the like. After all if the Fed is lending money to investment banks (who are currently outside their regulatory purview), they need the authority to supervise them as they currently do with commercial banks. This in his mind is a regulatory failure as much as anything else, and he thinks the Fed may be unhappy about having to clean up.

after crash of '29, Glass-Steagall was put in place to clearly separate regulated and unregulated activity. part of the current situation was the repeal of Glass-Steagall a decade ago ... effectively allowed the mingling of regulated and unrequlated activity

recent posts mentioning repeal of Glass-Steagall a decade ago:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers

the severity of the crash of '29 was at least partially blameed on margin speculation with possibly only 20percent actual equity ... value drop of more than 20percent met than the investor was totally wiped out and actually owed money. one of the results were specifications for at least 80percent of the money upfront.

there were two factors in the current situation

toxic CDOs ... claimed to have been invented in the 80s as part of the S&L crisis to obfuscate the underlying values ... and these toxic CDOs getting triple-A rating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers

heavy investment leverage in these toxic CDOs ... there was note that last summer Bear had been leveraged 44 times (only a little over 2percent of the actual investment) ... they would purchase a toxic CDO ... then borrow money against that toxic CDO to buy another toxic CDO ... repeating the iteration 44 times. A drop in value of 3percent in the toxic CDO market could bankrupt an investor leveraged 44 times. Last summer after the rating houses were downgrading the triple-A rating on the toxic CDOs ... the statement was that Bear dropped back to "only" 30 times leverage (i.e. a little over actual 3percent equity).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#57 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#46 The bond that fell to Earth

....

recent posts about UBS unloading $24b dollars in toxic CDOs at 70cents on the dollar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers

although other references indicate that 70 cents on the dollar would be on the high side for these instruments ... that 10cents to 50cents would be more likely for much of the toxic CDOs. the claim was that bear had so much leveraged in these toxic CDOs that when the borrowed money was "called" ... they were bankrupt. They talk about home values drop 10 percent and people walked away. toxic CDOs dropping by 90percent (from triple-A to junk status) could imply that Bear owed 30 times more than they had invested. There is concern that Bear isn't the only institution that find themselves in this situation.

One of the recent suggestions about possibly going back to separating regulated and unregulated activity (undoing the repeal of Glass-Steagall) and providing better oversight of unregulated investment banking ... was to limit "leveraging" to five times (i.e. requiring at least 20percent equity on margin investments ... a level that previously was characterized as contributing significantly to the severity of the crash of '29).

PBS program on the long effort to repeal Glass-Steagall
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

the effort had been underway for quite some time, search engines turn up references going back to the days of S&L crisis and if congress were to repeal Glass-Steagall, the regulatory infrastructure would require significant revamping.

there seems to be more & more commentary showing up along these lines:

Clinton repeal of Glass-Steagall faulty as seen today
http://mortgageblues.us/news/398

from above:
This issue now goes far beyond the mortgage blues of some lenders. There is no way that crazy wild-eyed mortgage brokers with lax standards could cause worldwide problems like this. President Bill Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act which had prevented the coupling of investment banking and lending. To be exact, on November 12, 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. One of the effects of the repeal is it allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. Economists have criticized the action.
... snip ...

this possibly refers to the market appears to be estimated at $45trillion, larger than mortgage securities, stock market, and treasury funds combined. With 30-to-1 leverage that means that there is possibly only $1.5trillion actual equity ... with the rest all "borrowed" funds (and severely at risk for any downward adjustment of triple-A rating on toxic CDOs):
http://polizeros.com/tag/cdo/

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China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:35:53
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
And when there isn't enough self-control, we wind up with what Fred Brooks described as the "second system effect", which basically involves shoveling everything but the kitchen sink into the second version. Sometimes the sink makes it in there too.

are you talking about future system project? ... which not only had the kitchen sink ... but every other kind of sink ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

old reference about future system discussion in fergus/morris book
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33

a different kind of analogy is you tell the ones out front by the arrows in their back.

previous posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#45 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#56 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#58 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#59 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#60 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#62 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#65 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#69 China overtakes U.S. as top Web market

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:28:31
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history

this reference
http://www.stock-market-crash.net/1929.htm

uses example of margin investors leveraged ten-to-one and downturn wiped them out; banks participated in this activity ... and in the aftermath of the speculation frenzy ... 10,000 banks failed and most of the people lost ($140 billion of depositor money) all their deposits/savings ... launching the great depression. It wasn't so much the crash ... it was the heavy leveraged margin investments that were wiped out ... including those by banks (using their customer deposits).

One of the results was Glass-Steagall act separating (regulated) commercial banks and (unregulated)investment banks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act

another recent reference:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aDSFgf3DHR_A&refer=exclusive

from above:
Losses at financial firms from the mortgage collapse may eventually triple to $600 billion as defaults on home loans grow, says Zurich-based UBS AG. One reason banks are losing money is the repeal nine years ago of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial and investment banking after excessive risk-taking contributed to the Great Depression, Eveillard said.
... snip ...

Another result was the creation
http://www.sec.gov/about/whatwedo.shtml#create
of the SEC
http://www.sec.gov/about/whatwedo.shtml

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Multicore boom needs new developer skills

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Multicore boom needs new developer skills
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:18:26
Multicore boom needs new developer skills
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/032008-multicore-boom-needs-new-developer.html

from above:
More than charity lies behind Microsoft and Intel's announcement this week that they will donate US$20 million to a pair of U.S. colleges in the hope of spurring advances in parallel, or multicore, programming research, as a Microsoft research scientist readily acknowledged.
... snip ...

work on fine-grain locking at the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

for cp67 smp kernel (and work leading to compare&swap instruction) dates back nearly 40yrs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

misc. recent posts mentioning parallel &/or multicore:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#0 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#3 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#74 Too much change opens up financial fault lines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#67 What happened to resumable instructions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#81 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#90 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#1 Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#24 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#26 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#79 Any benefit to programming a RISC processor by hand?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#6 Fantasy-Land_Hierarchal_NUMA_Memory-Model_on_Vertical
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#37 Panic in Multicore Land
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#42 Panic in Multicore Land
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#48 Wintel, Universities Team On Parallel Programming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#64 Panic in Multicore Land

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:50:41
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
Unfortunatly, the Fed is only half a national bank. It is a private institution, and has pretty ill-defined autority. When the crisis first appeared they have behaved admirably, but the crisis partly comes from the very fact that these toxic CDOs lie in a grey zone halfway outside the FED's turf.

mostly activity by organizations outside FED regulatory control.

just doing a "recent news" search on Glass-Steagall and in the top dozen or so articles, are some claims that the bear situation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#57 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#73 Bush - place in history

is actually a bailout of jpmorgan ... i.e. fed loans jpm money to buy bear at $2/share and backstops the toxic CDOs ... jpm is supposedly sitting with $7+trillion in (toxic) CDOs (twice the amount of citi ... where citi has already started announcing writedown losses ... but jpm has yet to really start; maybe they can exchange them for treasuries w/o having to admit to the losses?).

and ...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120614432484956499.html

from above:
The Financial Times reported on its web site Friday evening that "central banks on both sides of the Atlantic are actively engaged in discussions about the feasibility of mass purchases of mortgage-backed securities as a possible solution to the credit crisis."
... snip ...

this would make it look a lot more like the S&L bailout ... discussed in this post from decade ago
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

as well as the requirement for transparency in mortgage-backed securities ... this reference that they were invented during the S&L crisis (as means of obfuscating underlying value):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:21:13
sidd@situ.com () writes:
wsj now sez that Fed denies report
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120614432484956499.html


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#75 Bush - place in history

it will be interesting to see what they actually do ... the claim from post a decade ago ... is that some amount of the S&L bailout may still being carried
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

The Largest Bail-Out In The History Of The World
http://www.247wallst.com/2008/03/the-largest-bai.html

from above:
The action would require that agencies to take on paper which may never recover in value, forcing tax-payers to cover the egregious mistakes of most large banks and brokerages.
... snip ...

The Fed's Too Easy on Wall Street
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-03-19/the-feds-too-easy-on-wall-streetbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice

from above:
"The Federal Reserve continues to bail out major financial institutions without imposing meaningful conditions to improve their conduct and performance," complains Peter Morici, professor at the Smith Business School at the University of Maryland.

Here's a staggering figure to contemplate: New York City securities industry firms paid out a total of $137 billion in employee bonuses from 2002 to 2007, according to figures compiled by the New York State Office of the Comptroller. Let's break that down: Wall Street honchos earned a bonus of $9.8 billion in 2002, $15.8 billion in 2003, $18.6 billion in 2004, $25.7 billion in 2005, $33.9 billion in 2006, and $33.2 billion in 2007.

... snip ...

Reflections on the Mortgage Bust and the Inevitable Political Reaction
http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.27673/pub_detail.asp

from above:
This time we apparently had the greatest house price inflation in U.S. history. The price inflation stimulated the lenders, the loan brokers, the investors, the bond salesmen, the borrowers, the speculators, the homebuilders, and the flippers. The value of residential real estate about doubled between 1999 and 2006, increasing by $10 trillion. With a total value of about $21 trillion, this is a huge asset class and component of household wealth. The U.S. residential mortgage loan market is the biggest credit market in the world, with outstanding credit grown to over $10 trillion, of which about $1.3 trillion represents subprime mortgages. Securitized U.S. mortgages, prime and subprime, are owned around the world.
... snip ...

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:41:20
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
The Largest Bail-Out In The History Of The World
http://www.247wallst.com/2008/03/the-largest-bai.html

from above:

The action would require that agencies to take on paper which may never recover in value, forcing tax-payers to cover the egregious mistakes of most large banks and brokerages.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#75 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#76 Bush - place in history

decade old post discussing the S&L bailout and need for transparency in value of toxic CDOs, mortgage-backed securities, etc.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

In Washington, a Split Over Regulation of Wall Street
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/business/23regulate.html?ei=5065&en=71e656b05114c042&ex=1206849600&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

from above:
The Fed reported on Thursday that investment banks had quickly taken advantage of the lending program and had taken out $28.8 billion in new loans by Wednesday. That did not include any loans that JPMorgan Chase took on through the $30 billion credit line it received as part of its deal to acquire Bear Stearns.
... snip ...

other recent posts with reference to decade old post discussing the S&L bailout and need for transparency in value of toxic CDOs, mortgage-backed securities, etc.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#14 Who has a Core Competency in Security?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#11 Is this Risk Management's Waterloo?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#46 The bond that fell to Earth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#12 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#27 'Man in the browser' is new threat to online banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#50 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#66 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#70 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#78 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#14 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#38 outsourcing moving up value chain
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#69 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#51 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#57 independent appraisers

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was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:36:20
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
If only that were so. The thermodynamics of the atmosphere (both gaseous and aqueous) are far from simple and straightforward, evidence of this is that the measured behaviour does not correspond to the simple models.

from today ...

Black Carbon Pollution Emerges As Major Player In Global Warming
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080323210225.htm

from above:
Elimination of black carbon, a contributor to global warming and a public health hazard, offers a nearly instant return on investment, the researchers said. Black carbon particles only remain airborne for weeks at most compared to carbon dioxide, which remains in the atmosphere for more than a century. In addition, technology that could substantially reduce black carbon emissions already exists in the form of commercially available products.
... snip ...

Chemists Find New Important Contributor To Urban Smog
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080320150032.htm

from above:
Chemists at the University of California, San Diego have discovered that a chemical reaction in the atmosphere above major cities long assumed to be unimportant in urban air pollution is in fact a significant contributor to urban ozone -- the main component of smog.
... snip ...

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:07:06
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
690 / 850 = 0.92. That is an 8 per cent depreciation. Less than two years worth of interest. This is within (but just barely) _normal_ swings in the property market.

If this is all it takes to sweat a system, then the system needs to change, and those who made system needs to lose their money.


some amount of the value sucked out of the system thru the complexity of the toxic CDO operations seem to be the hundreds of billions in investment banker bonuses ... not only did they largely create and fuel the system, ... it now takes on appearance of huge house of cards created for their benefit

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#76 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#77 Bush - place in history

... ala the S&L crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

but rather than being a self correcting/adjusting infrastructure ... lots of places act as an accelerant ... almost taking on aspects of a financial infrastructure firestorm or feeding frenzy; for instance the speculators/flippers ... holding product off the market ... act as hording effect on the supply part (of supply&demand).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#5 independent appraisers

making the inevitable crash all the more severe.

in principle, minimum equity requirements acts as inhibitor on formation of firestorm and mitigation of any crash; Glass-Steagall attempted to wall off the scope of unregulated activity (some business shows calling it unbridled greed) on areas deemed to require safety, soundness and regulation.

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A Super-Efficient Light Bulb

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:54:46
The lightbulb of the future?
http://news.zdnet.com/2422-13568_22-192842.html
A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/22/2049257

from above:
The Tic Tac-sized bulb operates at temperatures up to 6000K and produces 140 lumens/watt, almost ten times as efficient as standard incandescent lamps, and twice the efficiency of high-end LEDs. The new bulbs also have a lifetime of 20,000 hours.
... snip ...

Questions Arising On Mercury In Compact Fluorescents
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/20/1945227&tid=271
Shining a light on fluorescent bulbs
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/

from above:
Since then, the bulbs -- known as CFLs -- have been revamped, and strict government guidelines have alleviated most of those problems. But while the bulbs are extremely energy-efficient, one problem hasn't gone away: All CFLs contain mercury, a neurotoxin that can cause kidney and brain damage.
...
There is no disputing that overall, fluorescent bulbs save energy and reduce pollution in general. An average incandescent bulb lasts about 800 to 1,500 hours; a spiral fluorescent bulb can last as long as 10,000 hours. In just more than a year -- since the beginning of 2007 -- 9 million fluorescent bulbs have been purchased in California, preventing the release of 1.5 billion pounds of carbon dioxide compared with traditional bulbs, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

... snip ...

thread from last year on sodium vapor vis-a-vis LEDs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#30 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#32 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#36 What do YOU call the # sign?

somewhat at the time paid attention to sodium vapor when issue raised for san jose street lights and effect on nearby observatory. i had gotten involved in some of the details of "berkeley 10m" (now called keck and out in hawaii) and some testing was being done at Lick ... and there were some visits to look at technology.

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Is IT becoming extinct?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is IT becoming extinct?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:18:29
DocFarmer9999@YAHOO.CO.UK (Doc Farmer) writes:
You're standing in the right place - the author, however, is not. While he brings up valid points, these are correctable by good project management and more User ownership of (and responsibility for) their applications and data.

re:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666

the argument in the 80s (somewhat related to desktop systems) ... in one of the earlier iterations of this discussion were

1) computer technology was becoming significantly more pervasive

2) there wasn't enuf skill base to support the rapidly expanding uses

3) had to change the paradigm so users could handle much of their own support.

there was some parallels drawn with the examples of the automobile industry when every automobile required at least one professional chauffeur/mechanic or the telephone industry where all phone calls were connected manually by a human telephone operator.

an earlier iteration of this was in the huge explosion in midrange market ... the 43xx and vax machines ... while 43xx may have actually sold more machines, there were SHARE studies that vax/vms had competitive advantage because of lower requirement for (scarce) human effort/skill required for care & feeding (of course by the mid-80s, PCs and workstations were starting to gobble up the mid-range market from the low end).

in this country ... part of the issue has been that there has been scarcity of homegrown skill base for some time ... mitigated by large influx of foreigners. recently more & more of these skills have been returning home ... contributing to the outsourcing activity.

combination of outsourcing and foreign workers existed all through (at least) the 90s ... some what coming to a crunch with a combination of both the y2k remediation activity and the internet bubble going on at the same time. a large amount of y2k remediation was outsourced, in part because it was viewed as one-shot activity ... however, it resulted in the creation of business relationships that persisted after the remediation had finished. In core legacy systems, the greener pastures of the internet bubble siphoned off some amount of resources.

Going into this century, the internet bubble burst and lots were looking for other safe havens ... at the same time, outsourcing operations had been able to demonstrate core legacy competency with their y2k remediation work.

recent thread that 20 or so yrs ago, numerous had realized math/science skills contributed significantly to economy ... and recent study calculated the effect on the economy of the education system being unable to deliver those skills
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#63 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#70 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy

the US now coming in with rankings like 29 out of 30 industrial countries ... recent posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#78 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#80 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#82 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#16 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#19 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#20 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#38 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#39 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#44 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#45 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#51 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#71 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#52 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#55 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#60 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#62 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#81 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#83 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#6 Science and Engineering Indicators 2008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#13 Education ranking

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A Super-Efficient Light Bulb

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:32:57
Bernd Felsche <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> writes:
Bistromathics. The dust-to-dust energy balance between incandescent and CFL only starts to favour CFL when the upper end of the life span is reached. The far heavier CFL has a much higher energy input during manufacture; requires more energy to ship and more energy and largely non-existent resources to dispose of safely.

a point of one of the references was the CFL/mercury dangers ... some comment that california avgs. something like only one certified location per county for disposing fluorescent bulbs (aka not allowed to just put fluorescents in garbage):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#80 A Super-Efficient Light Bulb

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:51:24
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#77 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#79 Bush - place in history

this morning, one of the business shows created pro/con debate on the bear bailout;

one side was that there was going to be a lot of profit made in the bailout ... underwritten by the taxpayer ...

the other side said that going into that weekend, numerous were seeing the situation rapidly ballooning into a trillion dollar crisis ... and the bear bailout is a bargain by comparison (to that alternative) and the american public has no real idea of everything that is going on here.

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was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:10:30
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
Let's see... the Esso (our branch of Exxon) "Speed Pass" (or whatever they call those key fobs you wave in front of the pump to pay) only work on Esso pumps, and the Shell counterpart only works on Shell pumps. Barring some sort of government intervention, I think the answer to your question is pretty clear.

some amount of this involves which stored-value implementation is involved ... recent post discussing stored-value implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#49 Price point

part of digital money blog entry
http://digitaldebateblogs.typepad.com/digital_money/2008/03/price-point.html
concerning recent new payment channels conference
http://www.newpaymentchannels.com/index.html

addressing the float issues, some of the vulnerability issues (in various current implementations), as well as some liability considerations ... eases the way for being able to use common implementation across multiple merchants ... part of this we refer to as a person-centric implementation (as opposed to "institution-centric")

some of the issues is adopting technology (that saw much wider deployment in transit industry) for other transaction environments
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#43 Realistic dynamics of contactless
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#44 Realistic dynamics of contactless
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#45 Realistic dynamics of contactless

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Primaries (USA)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Primaries (USA)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:31:18
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#61 Primaries (USA)

and latest in using the airwaves freed up with HDTV:

Google Wants to Use White Space for WiFi
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1309309/google_wants_to_use_white_space_for_wifi/index.html
Google Wants TV 'White Space' for Wi-Fi
http://www.physorg.com/news125597526.html
Google unveils "white space" airwaves plans
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/google_fcc_dc

from above:
The white-space airwaves could become available in February 2009, when TV broadcasters switch from analog to digital signals. Whitt said he expects devices using white-space spectrum could be available by the end of 2009.

...

Google and Microsoft are part of a coalition of technology companies that has been lobbying the FCC to allow unlicensed use of white-space spectrum.

The group also includes Dell Inc, Intel Corp, Hewlett-Packard Co and the north American unit of Philips Electronics.

... snip ...

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Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:37:32
jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) writes:
For example: the Comptroller of the Currency (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_the_Comptroller_of_the_Currency
http://www.occ.treas.gov/)
was been rendered mostly useless.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#75 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

note comptroller of the currency ... recently mentioned in this post:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers

and comptroller general ... recent reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

are different offices/people. i've mentioned comptroller general in numerous other posts (the periodic reference that no members of congress have been capable of simple middle school arithmetic for the last 50 yrs, especially where unfunded mandates are concerned) ... some referenced in the above.

oft referenced post from decade ago mentioning S&L crisis, issues with variable-rate mortgages and need for better transparency in mortgage backed securities ... also mentions basel:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

recent post on somewhat different financial risk area:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#50 Liability for breaches: do we need new laws?

lots of posts mentioning fraud, risks, threats, vulnerabilities, and/or exploits:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

other posts mentioning basel/bis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#epaym "e-payments" email discussion list is now "Internet-payments"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay8.htm#bis7 BIS Papers No. 7 - Electronic finance: a new perspective and challenges
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#50 glossary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#smallpay3 Small/Secure Payment Business Models
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#cfppki19 CFP: PKI research workshop
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay11.htm#29 CIOs Must Be Involved In Controlling Risk In Financial Services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#50 E-banking is board-level Issue, Says Basel Committee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm14.htm#52 Committee calls for better e-banking security management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm16.htm#7 The Digital Insider: Backdoor Trojans ... fyi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm21.htm#3 Is there any future for smartcards?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#14 Sarbanes-Oxley is what you get when you don't do FC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#15 Sarbanes-Oxley is what you get when you don't do FC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#11 Is this Risk Management's Waterloo?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#41 An Understanding Database Theory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#23 More on garbage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#26 Dangerous Hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#22 AOS: The next big thing in data storage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#0 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#14 Geothermal was: VLIW pre-history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#78 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers

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Is IT becoming extinct?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Is IT becoming extinct?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:07:03
howard.brazee writes:
It could become very easy to commoditize a company's data until it fit in a way that we know how to use.

What's much harder for both data processing and for users is to figure out how to collect and use data that might give us that competitive advantage - without spending more than the return.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#81 Is IT becoming extinct?

in much the same way that hardware started to become commoditized, software also started becoming commoditized (as part of industry maturing).

some of this was helped along by gov. COTS (commercial off the shelf) activity (both hardware and software) ... some recent posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#37 COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#41 COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#43 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#49 Linux zSeries questions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path

some amount of software matured to the point where it is good enuf ... and competitive edge comes from focusing on domain specific issues rather than managing software projects ... especially by organizations that don't have a lot of expertise in the area. there has been an extrodinary number of major failed IT projects in the past couple decades which would contribute to many organizations just wanting something "off the shelf" that works.

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Has Banking Industry Overlooked Its Biggest Breach Ever?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Has Banking Industry Overlooked Its Biggest Breach Ever?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:53:07
Has Banking Industry Overlooked Its Biggest Breach Ever?
http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=149052

from above:
Way back in July, law enforcement agencies issued a press release stating that they had indicted a former employee at Compass Bank for stealing information from the company. It now appears that the theft might be the biggest breach in banking history.

According to the privacy site PogoWasRight.org, new details about the case against former Compass employee James Kevin Real indicate that approximately 1 million customers' personal information may have been exposed in the incident.

... snip ...

somewhat related
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#50 Liability for breaches: do we need new laws?

past posts in previous thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#75 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

lots of past posts mentioning fraud, risks, threats, vulnerabilities, and exploits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:31:19
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the other side said that going into that weekend, numerous were seeing the situation rapidly ballooning into a trillion dollar crisis ... and the bear bailout is a bargain by comparison (to that alternative) and the american public has no real idea of everything that is going on here.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#83 Bush - place in history

this morning business program comment was that several large national banking institutions, with citibank leading the list, are technically insolvent ... compareable to the situation back in 1990 ... but in the wake of the bear bailout, things have pulled back from agamendon and taken systemic risk off the table (domino failure of major financial institutions).

decade old post mentioning S&L crises and need to try and not repeat the process with mortgage backed securities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security

there was also announcement that housing prices (for some markets) are down 11 percent from a year ago ... indicating that real estate has starting to correct also

recent posts/threads on the subject:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#78 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#4 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#10 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#11 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#14 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#15 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#32 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#51 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#57 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#73 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#75 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#76 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#77 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#86 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study

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WWII supplies

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: WWII supplies
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:43:29
Bernd Felsche <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> writes:
My family emigrated to Australia in 1968 on a formerly Dutch ship, built as the MS Oranje, launched 1939 and refitted as hospital ship in 1941. In 1965 refitted and renamed MS Angelina Lauro after being sold to Lauro Lines.

The ship was the largest hospital ship operating in the area during WWII and nobody ever thought of mentioning that during our 6 weeks on board from Bremerhaven to Sydney. Shameful.

Once you start digging, you find all sort of interesting information about the ship and crew. e.g. <http://cas.awm.gov.au/heraldry/REL30133.001>


recent reference to another hospital ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#47 WWII

that came into service at end of WWII. my wife & mother lived on it for a couple months in Tsingtao harbor ... and her sister was born on the ship. Old post with Repose postmark off letter sent to the grandparents announcing birth of daughter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#33

USN navy hospital ships
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/ships-ah.html

Repose
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/AH/AH-16_Repose.html

it later did service in korea and vietnam conflicts

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was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:44:18
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Black Carbon Pollution Emerges As Major Player In Global Warming
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080323210225.htm


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#78 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff

more ....

Global and regional climate changes due to black carbon
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo156.html

from above:
Because of the combination of high absorption, a regional distribution roughly aligned with solar irradiance, and the capacity to form widespread atmospheric brown clouds in a mixture with other aerosols, emissions of black carbon are the second strongest contribution to current global warming, after carbon dioxide emissions. In the Himalayan region, solar heating from black carbon at high elevations may be just as important as carbon dioxide in the melting of snowpacks and glaciers. The interception of solar radiation by atmospheric brown clouds leads to dimming at the Earth's surface with important implications for the hydrological cycle, and the deposition of black carbon darkens snow and ice surfaces, which can contribute to melting, in particular of Arctic sea ice.
... snip ...

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Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:02:44
from IT project failures
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/

recent thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#81 Is IT becoming extinct?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#87 Is IT becoming extinct?

Is IT becoming extinct?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666

and from 20mar ...

Billion-dollar IT failure at Census Bureau
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=660

from above:
The US Census Bureau faces cost overruns up to $2 billion on an IT initiative replacing paper-based data collection methods with specialized handheld devices for the upcoming 2010 census. The Bureau has not implemented longstanding Government Accountability Office (GAO) recommendations and may therefore be forced to scrap the program. Harris Corp., the contractor associated with this incompetently managed initiative, was awarded a $600 million contract to develop the handhelds and related software.
... snip ...

we had been called in to commerce dept to consult in the early to mid-90s on new dataprocessing for the 2000 census. (20 yr) old systems had been scheduled for removal apr97 ... and details for the replacements had to be nailed down by that point and be ready to start bringing in the replacements. We also had to handle audit of the project by outside agency.

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Data Centers Nearing Power-Usage, Cost Crisis

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Data Centers Nearing Power-Usage, Cost Crisis
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:27:04
Data Centers Nearing Power-Usage, Cost Crisis
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Storage/Data-Centers-Nearing-PowerUsage-Cost-Crisis/

from above:
We found confirmation for what we call the 'Economic Breakdown of Moore's Law,' Brill said. "Basically, the increasing cost for power and cooling are fundamentally and almost invisibly changing the economics of IT."

...

Every 1U [smallest size] server incurs an annual facility cost of about $1,600 per year, Brill said. Of this, about $700 is for electricity. Since the street price for a volume server is in the $3,000 range, the electricity usage itself over four years will exceed the acquisition cost of the server, Brill said.

... snip ...

recent related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#72 Price of CPU seconds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#91 z10 presentation on 26 Feb

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:56:38
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
this morning business program comment was that several large national banking institutions, with citibank leading the list, are technically insolvent ... compareable to the situation back in 1990 ... but in the wake of the bear bailout, things have pulled back from agamendon and taken systemic risk off the table (domino failure of major financial insitutions).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#83 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#89 Bush - place in history

later in the day yesterday ... there was mention of something like $1.2t in write downs (of toxic CDOs) worldwide ... with $465b in the US.

and just coming over news, adding to citibank other woes, there is $1.7b settlement related to enron.

misc. recent news itmes:

Seen in the Fed's magic mirror, Bear Stearns appears to be worth it
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article3620323.ece

Fed auctions $50 bn to cash-strapped banks
http://www.indiaenews.com/america/20080326/106593.htm

FDIC plans to add staff to handle bank failures
http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/GAM.20080326.TICKER26-1/GIStory/

Americans oppose government aid for banks
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1248517/

Back to reality
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Articles/305153/Back+to+reality+.htm

from above:

Nobody knows how many more cracks are yet to appear in the global financial system, least of all the Masters of the Universe who got themselves into such a mess in the first place.

The question is, how much of a mess have they got the rest of us into? The consensus seems to be that when US investment bank Bear Stearns got caught with its pants down and was sold for a pittance, the credit crunch became a full-scale economic crisis.

... snip ...

of course part of it was repeal of Glass-Steagall allowing unregulated activity to contaminate regulated banking requiring safe/soundness.

recent posts mentioning Glass-Steagall and/or toxic CDOs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#87 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#42 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#59 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#65 Banks failing to manage IT risk - study
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#70 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#1 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#17 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#43 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#51 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#52 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#53 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#73 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#75 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#79 Bush - place in history

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:36:51
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Back to reality
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Articles/305153/Back+to+reality+.htm

from above:

Nobody knows how many more cracks are yet to appear in the global financial system, least of all the Masters of the Universe who got themselves into such a mess in the first place.

The question is, how much of a mess have they got the rest of us into? The consensus seems to be that when US investment bank Bear Stearns got caught with its pants down and was sold for a pittance, the credit crunch became a full-scale economic crisis.

... snip ...


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#94 Bush - place in history

one of the things to look past ... is to differentiate what has happened to many institutions vis-a-vis the individual benefits (sucked out of the infrastructure) ... reference to a little of it (just bonuses paid by NYC securities investment firms 2002-2007)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#76 Bush - place in history

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:29:12
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
of course part of it was repeal of Glass-Steagall allowing unregulated activity to contaminate regulated banking requiring safe/soundness.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#83 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#89 Bush - place in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#94 Bush - place in history

lots of comments swinging back and forth between regulations will thwart unregulated banking (which implies that they should feel the consequences, including failure) ... and "unbridled greed" shouldn't be held accountable and need to be bailed out whenever they really screwup.

When the going gets tough, banks yelp for nanny
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/26/ccjeff126.xml

for some additional drift to audit and financial statements ... that draws some references to enron and worldcom ... recent references from yesterday:

When Auditors Cave
http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/when-auditors-cave/?hp
Report Assails Auditor for Work at Failed Home Lender
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/business/26cnd-account.html?ei=5065&en=47d182368f31d7f9&ex=1207195200&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
New Century faulted for improper accounting
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/26/news/companies/new_century_financial.ap/?postversion=2008032621
New Century, KPMG are lambasted
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/report-new-century-2006250-accounting-company

and in the heat of the enron & worldcom aftermath ... gao study of financial restatements ... mostly from audit and reporting irregularities

'Financial Statement Restatements: Trends, Market Impacts, Regulatory Responses, and Remaining Challenges'
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-138

from above:
While the average number of companies listed on NYSE, Nasdaq, and Amex decreased 20 percent from 9,275 in 1997 to 7,446 in 2002, the number of listed companies restating their financials increased from 83 in 1997 to a projected 220 in 2002 (a 165 percent increase) (table 1). Based on these projections, the proportion of listed companies restating on a yearly basis is expected to more than triple from 0.89 percent in 1997 to almost 3 percent by the end of 2002. In total, the number of restating companies is expected to represent about 10 percent of the average number of listed companies from 1997 to 2002.
... snip ...

along with

Financial Statement Restatement Database
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03395r.pdf

and more recent update (2006)

Financial Restatements: Update of Public Company Trends, Market Impacts, and Regulatory Enforcement Activities
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06678.pdf

and:

Financial Restatement Database
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d061053r.pdf
and update (2006)
http://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/gao-06-1079sp//

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Bush - place in history

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bush - place in history
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:23:44
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
and in the heat of the enron & worldcom aftermath ... gao study of financial restatements ... mostly from audit and reporting irregularities

'Financial Statement Restatements: Trends, Market Impacts, Regulatory Responses, and Remaining Challenges'
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-03-138


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#96 Bush - place in history

previous references to PBS program that looked at the repeal of Glass-Steagall ... the show The Wall Street Fix:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/

includes:

WCOM: The Symbol of What Went Wrong
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/wcom/

Fixing the Street
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/fixing/

Mr. Weill Goes to Washington
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/

interview with Eliot Spitzer from above:
So you're saying the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the permission for these huge superbanks is one of the proximate causes of the corruption on Wall Street?

Absolutely. There's no question about it. On the day that I announced the global settlement, on Dec. 20, [2002], I began by saying that the problem at its root is a flawed business model, and that business model is the product of a government regulatory decision to repeal Glass-Steagall administratively and legislatively, and to seek this tremendous concentration of power, and then the abuse of that power by the investment houses.

But it was that effort to create these one full-service banks, and that model that was the proximate cause for all of this.

... snip ...

previously mentioned piece on demise of Glass-Steagall ... repealed with GLBA 21Oct99.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

also from above:
On Oct. 22, Weill and John Reed issue a statement congratulating Congress and President Clinton, including 19 administration officials and lawmakers by name. The House and Senate approve a final version of the bill on Nov. 4, and Clinton signs it into law later that month.
... snip ...

search of recent news items mentioning repeal of Glass-Steagall ... the half-dozen or so most recent: Congress looking for broader fixes for U.S. economy
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0328/p02s02-usec.html
Obama Calls for Overhaul of Financial Regulations
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=asQMiFD4v_MU&refer=home
Obama campaign picks up on Krugman's good advice
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15031.html
Obama Remarks on Economy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/27/AR2008032701631.html
The Swamp: Obama: 'Economy is in a recession'
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_economy_is_in_recession.html
Fed May Gain Influence From Crisis at SEC's Expense
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arSZbp8CA_JE&refer=home
Who Gets Us Out of the Mess?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080326/cm_huffpost/093401
Two Senate Panels to Investigate Bear Stearns Deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/business/26cnd-paulson.html?hp
....

recent posts mentioning the PBS program:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#13 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#46 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#71 Bush - place in history

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Innovation: biggest draw in the West

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Innovation: biggest draw in the West
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:29:45
Innovation: biggest draw in the West
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206905989

from above:
For Westerners, there are disturbing similarities between the history of the region's textile industry and the story still being written for its high-tech sector. Both experienced explosive growth and then decline--complete collapse in the case of textiles, and a continued slide for tech.
... snip ...

some of this is related to various threads regarding need for highly educated and skilled workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#52 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#55 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#60 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#62 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#81 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#83 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#6 Science and Engineering Indicators 2008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#13 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#56 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#38 outsourcing moving up value chain
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#55 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#74 Price of CPU seconds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#86 U.S. Science Funding Hits a Political Wall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#37 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#71 US aerospace and defense sector braces for potential brain drain as Cold War workers retire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#81 Is IT becoming extinct?

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The Workplace War for Age and Talent

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Workplace War for Age and Talent
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:50:39
The Workplace War for Age and Talent
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/538892/

from above:
A study from the American Society of Training and Development shows that 76 million Baby Boomers, those born between 1946 and 1964, will be retiring over the next 20 years, but only 46 million workers will be available to replace them, most of who are referred to as Generation X, those born between 1965 and 1979, and Generation Y or Millennials, those born after 1980.
... snip ...

above quantity issue is somewhat separate from quality issue:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#61 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#63 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#22 Study Finds Sharp Math, Science Skills Help Expand Economy
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#98 Innovation: biggest draw in the West

a few past baby-boomer "replacements" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#42 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#63 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#1 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#43 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#82 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#40 IBM sees decline in number of U.S IT pros, boom in China

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