List of Archived Posts
2008 Newsgroup Postings (01/24 - 02/07)
- folklore indeed
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- folklore indeed
- folklore indeed
- folklore indeed
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Current Officers
- Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
- more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
- New Opcodes
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- Kerberized authorization service
- New Opcodes
- New Opcodes
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- New Opcodes
- Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
- Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
- was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
- Current Officers
- Current Officers
- Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
- New Opcodes
- Current Officers
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Young mainframers' group gains momentum
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- Data Erasure Products
- Data Erasure Products
- No Glory for the PDP-15
- Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?
- Current Officers
- Current Officers
- Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?
- Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bel?
- Kernels
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- Current Officers
- Current Officers
- Govt demands password to personal computer
- Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
- more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
- Morten Reistad? Marine Cables to Mid East cut?
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Current Officers
- No Glory for the PDP-15
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- What happened to resumable instructions?
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
- Fixing US broadband: $100 billion for fiber to every home
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- No Glory for the PDP-15
- Palestine (was 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor"
- Horses and Cars
- Palestine (was 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor"
- Neglected IT Tasks May Have Led to Bank Meltdown
- Palestine (was 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor"
- CPU time differences for the same job
- WSCHED and WSYNC
- Random thoughts
- Random thoughts
- CPU time differences for the same job
- CPU time differences for the same job
- CPU time differences for the same job
- Human error tops the list of security threats
- Does ARP Belong to Layer 2 Or Layer 3 OSI Reference Model???
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- CPU time differences for the same job
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
- CPU time differences for the same job
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: folklore indeed
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:35:26
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Virtualization still hot, death of antivirus software imminent, VC says
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/121707-crystal-ball-virtualization.html
from above:
Another trend Maeder predicts for 2008 is, at long last, the death of
antivirus software and other security products that allow employees to
install and download any programs they'd like onto their PCs, and then
attempt to weed out the malicious code. Instead, products that protect
endpoints by only allowing IT-approved code to be installed will become
the norm.
... snip ...
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
along the same lines ... doesn't actually totally preclude download
& install
Feds Say 'Adios' to Admin Rights on Windows; The Federal Desktop Core
Configuration mandate for Windows XP and Vista clients goes into effect
on February 1
http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=144080
from above:
"This is definitely a move in the right direction. Even with the
increase in stealthy attacks, 90 percent of attacks are still using
known vulnerabilities" and many agencies aren't keeping up with those
vulnerabilities, says Amrit Williams, CTO of BigFix. "This will let them
assess their [desktop] environments against those configurations, then
enforce them, and remediate machines."
... snip ...
Federal Desktop Core Configuration; FDCC
http://fdcc.nist.gov/
from above:
Under the direction of OMB and in collaboration with DHS, DISA, NSA,
USAF, and Microsoft, NIST has provided the following resources to help
agencies test, implement, and deploy the Microsoft Windows XP and Vista
Federal Desktop Core Configuration (FDCC) baseline.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:14:47
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
NOTE: It looks like Toyota is conceding first place to GM for one
more year. Saw a blurb in a financial rag that there may have been a
misstatement of figures.
original post:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#80 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
from earlier today ... GM Still No. 1, but not by much
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#76 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
In Global Race, G.M. Wins by a Day of Pickup Sales
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/business/24auto.html?ref=business
from above:
In a global market of more than 70 million vehicles, the difference
between the two sales numbers, about 3,000, is roughly the number of
pickup trucks that G.M. sells each day in the United States.
... snip ...
Toyota catches GM in global sales
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_bi_ge/gm_toyota
from above:
Toyota is setting up more overseas plants and aims to sell 9.85 million
vehicles this year, or 5 percent more than in 2007, under an ambitious
plan announced last month. Toyota executives also project better
U.S. sales this year.
GM would not give a global sales forecast for this year.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: folklore indeed
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:53:14
kkt <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
It will be interesting to see how much that affects worker's
productivity. It seems like a lot of why PCs won over timeshared
systems is that people could configure their own.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#0 folklore indeed
vm/cms timesharing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#timeshare
offered quite a bit of personalization ... in fact, the commercial
vm370-based timesharing service bureaus tended to create "padded cell"
cms environments to restrict their customers from doing too much
personalization (and shooting themselves in the foot). some of the
more recent virtual appliance stuff could also be considered along
the lines of the cms "padded cell" work.
for instance, the xmas exec incident, recent ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#87 CompUSA to Close after Jan. 1st 2008
on bitnet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
was a year before the morris worm on the internet
one of the places that vm/cms came up short ... were areas like the
half-duplex 3270 terminal interface vis-a-vis human factors that you
could get out of dedicated interface on pc.
in the internal "adventure" game incident of the late 70s ... there were
programs developed for scanning personal CMS areas for copies of the
game (for eradication). we made the case that public game area should be
maintained with published management guidelines ... since the scanning
was resulting in individuals obfuscating copies of the game to thwart
the scanning.
another example was the author of rex(x) had developed a multi-user
space war game that had interfaces that worked between cms users on the
same machine and also supported concurrent operation over the
network ... and deployed on the internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
some users reverse engineered the interface API and built an
"automated" player program that had faster than human reaction times
and began dominating the games. as a countermeasure there was
an energy use penalty (that was added) which increased significantly
as the elapsed time between operations decreased (below a nominally
expected human reaction threshold).
past references to adventure game on cms:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#33 Adventure Games (Was: Navy orders supercomputer)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#44 Call for folklore - was Re: So it's cyclical.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#12 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#49 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#57 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#0 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#1 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#2 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#4 Adventure game (was:PL/? History (was Hercules))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#16 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#25 Fast action games on System/360+?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#28 Fast action games on System/360+?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#3 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#18 The History of Computer Role-Playing Games
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#0 10 worst PCs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#17 Newbie question on table design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#39 Newbie question on table design
misc. past posts mentioning virtual appliance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#46 To RISC or not to RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#25 To RISC or not to RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#6 Multics on Vmware ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#8 vmshare
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#36 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#26 user level TCP implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#48 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#67 Operating systems are old and busted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#70 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#3 Hypervisors May Replace Operating Systems As King Of The Data Center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#25 VMware: New King Of The Data Center?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#4 Why do we think virtualization is new?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#26 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#35 Oracle Introduces Oracle VM As It Leaps Into Virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#39 New, 40+ yr old, direction in operating systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#41 New, 40+ yr old, direction in operating systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#81 IBM mainframe history, was Floating-point myths
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#75 virtual appliance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#80 software preservation volunteers ( was Re: LINC-8 Front Panel Questions)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#59 old internal network references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#52 China's Godson-2 processor takes center stage
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: folklore indeed
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:49:07
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#0 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#2 folklore indeed
earlier post about personal computers being deployed into
different enivronments with different requirements:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
Control user installs of software
http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20080125/tc_infoworld/94778
from above:
San Francisco - I've written many times over the years, including as
recently as last week, that letting users execute and install their own
software will always allow viruses, worms, and Trojans to be
successfully installed. Traditionally, I've recommended that users not
have admin or root access, that they let system administrators choose
what software is allowed and what is blocked. But this recommendation
breaks down for several reasons.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: folklore indeed
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:18:57
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Virtualization still hot, death of antivirus software imminent, VC says
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/121707-crystal-ball-virtualization.html
from above:
Another trend Maeder predicts for 2008 is, at long last, the death of
antivirus software and other security products that allow employees to
install and download any programs they'd like onto their PCs, and then
attempt to weed out the malicious code. Instead, products that protect
endpoints by only allowing IT-approved code to be installed will become
the norm.
... snip ...
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#39 folklore indeed
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#0 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#2 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#3 folklore indeed
Growing virus production taxes security firms
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/25/malware_surge/
from above:
Malware samples reached 5,490,960 in 2007, five times more than the
972,606 recorded in 2006; which was itself almost three times more than
the 333,425 recorded in 2005. The figures, compiled by AV-Test.org,
represent a growth in the number of variants of the same piece of
malware rather than the creation of numerous new malware strains.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:36:12
jmfbahciv writes:
I do not understand why people are so incapable of planning ahead.
brain dysfunction not being able to transfer from short-term to
long-term memory? ... so they lack any sense of consequence.
recent post referring to lane change brownian motion behavior
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#18 Traffic Jam Mystery Solved By Mathematicians
and earlier posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#17
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#4
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#7
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#5
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#34
there was some recent article about a sense of consequences tends to
improve as an individual matures (possibly maturity is equated with
being able to understand consequences?).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:54:46
jmfbahciv writes:
I do not understand why people are so incapable of planning ahead.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
recently somewhat related news item ... possibly lots of mutants
running around ...
Some People Just Never Learn
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/24/2220209
from above:
The scientists demonstrated that men carrying the A1 mutation are less
successful at learning to avoid mistakes than men who do not carry this
genetic mutation. This finding has the potential to improve our
understanding of the causes of addictive and compulsive behaviors.
... snip ...
Some People Never Learn
http://www.tfot.info/news/1094/some-people-never-learn.html
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:37:17
krw <kkk@kkk.kkk> writes:
Nope. He and the bank have an understanding. He doesn't loan money
and they don't sell cars.
actually there have been jokes about automobiles just being an excuse to
sell loans.
recent post about cars being execuse to sell loans, ILCs and even
automobile companies picking up ILC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#58 folklore indeed
there has been uproar, publicity and lobbying about Walmart picking up
an ILC. Walmart position is that they would use it purely for the
acquiring part of the credit card business. merchant interchange fees
are to the acquiring institutions, the associations, and the issuing
institutions; having their own acquiring institution would cover at
least that part of the interchange fees.
lobbying is that Walmart would leverage the ILC to get into the consumer
side of financial services.
misc. past posts mentioning interchange fees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#16 AMD to leave x86 behind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#23 Value of an old IBM PS/2 CL57 SX Laptop
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#27 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#38 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#56 T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#17 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#47 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#59 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#72 Free Checking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#35 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#68 Poll: oldest computer thing you still use
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#31 Is the media letting banks off the hook on payment card security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#40 Is the media letting banks off the hook on payment card security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#64 Is the media letting banks off the hook on payment card security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#0 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#62 folklore indeed
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:20:49
krw <kkk@kkk.kkk> writes:
Didn't you notice the threadlets about the PRICE of diesel fuel
(it's about 25-30% more expensive than gasoline here)? It is
certainly not cheaper to drive a diesel car in much/most of the US.
more topic drift:
Startup Says It Can Make Ethanol for $1 a Gallon, and Without Corn
http://www.wired.com/cars/energy/news/2008/01/ethanol23
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:58:04
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
I would claim that Boyd applied his fighter pilot & "dog fight"
background to (ground based) maneuver warfare ... including bypassing
fixed fortifications. There have been numerous claims that way too much
cannon fodder was wasted not doing that in the ww2 pacific campaign.
recent boyd reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#45 windows time service
misc. past posts mentioning boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
and various URLs from around the web mentioning boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd2
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#71 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
during the 70s & 80s boyd spoke at academies and war colleges. i've
noted before that during desert storm, you saw on tv some number of young
army & marine majors/cols repeating maneuver warfare philosophy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#8 scheduling & dynamic adaptive
US News & Report also had an article on the subject referring to them as
Boyd's "Jedi Knights".
there was some comments that the problem in the run-up to the current
conflict was Boyd had died (in the interval ... being credited with
the strategic battle plan for the earlier conflict)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#13 News Release
Marines sponsored the 2007 Boyd conference:
http://www.defense-and-society.org/boyd/2007_conference/vandergriff_richards_report.htm
from above:
As one of the senior USMC officers put it, the secret to applying Boyd
is to absorb his philosophy and not try to reduce him to another
process. Although the exact nature of future conflict is impossible to
predict, and semantic hair-splitting is unlikely to prove productive,
the concept of creating and exploiting chaos by operating inside an
opponent's OODA-loops is alive and well. Unfortunately, we have a lot of
work to do to catch up with and then surpass our transnational
opponents, by whatever label you choose to identify them.
... snip ...
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:21:58
John Byrns <byrnsj@sbcglobal.net> writes:
The interpreter I used years ago printed on only the 12 edge with the
"standard" plug board installed and didn't print all 80 characters
because the characters printed by the interpreter were larger than those
printed by keypunches. I don't remember how many characters the
interpreter could print on the top edge of the card, maybe somewhere
around 60 characters or so? One interesting side effect of this was
that the interpreted characters printed along the edge of an interpreted
card didn't line up with the punches for the corresponding character
column.
first time I manual did a custom "stage-2" sysgen ... I had the
stage-2 cards interpreted (two lines, first 60 chars on top line, next
20, if any, on 2nd line).
normal os/360 gen ... you punched up a "stage-1" sysgen ... basically
specifying configuration and options/features selected. this was
actually set of very complex macros ... which were run thru the
assembler ... that was all "punch" statements (no instructions/code)
... creating the stage-2 sysgen (around a box of cards).
normally the stage-2 sysgen was run "as-is" ... a single "job" with
lots & lots of executable steps. I created job cards for most of
the separate executable steps ... as part of running in started
jobstream (as opposed to standard process of running under the
"starter" system). I also extensively re-ordered the sequence of cards
... with aim of optimally ordering files & pds members (on disk)
for optimized arm seek operation.
this was as part of os/360 MFT release 11 sysgen ... as part of
transition from release 9.5 to release 11.
later, i could process the stage-2 sysgen card deck as CMS file with the
editor. misc. past posts mentioning os/360 sysgen decks:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#22 Pre S/360 IBM Operating Systems?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#28 IA64 Self Virtualizable?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#21 Reviving the OS/360 thread (Questions about OS/360)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#93 MVS vs HASP vs JES (was 2821)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#50 Navy orders supercomputer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#48 VTOC position
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#12 checking some myths.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#39 is this correct ? OS/360 became MVS and MVS >> OS/390
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#24 Infiniband's impact was Re: Intel's 64-bit strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#45 cp/67 addenda (cross-post warning)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#51 cp/67 addenda (cross-post warning)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#51 HASP assembly: What the heck is an MVT ABEND 422?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#59 real multi-tasking, multi-programming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#41 Vintage computers are better than modern crap !
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#29 FW: Looking for Disk Calc program/Exec
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#41 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#6 Software for IBM 360/30 (was Re: DOS/360: Forty years)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#16 CPU time and system load
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#40 You might be a mainframer if... :-) V3.8
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#12 30 Years and still counting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#7 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#0 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#38 IEH/IEB/... names?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#50 Various kinds of System reloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#18 Various kinds of System reloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#57 PDS Directory Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#15 rexx or other macro processor on z/os?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#29 Mainframe Limericks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#93 How old are you?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#69 ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#33 JCL parms
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:11:55
krw <kkk@kkk.kkk> writes:
Frankly, I don't see what's wrong with the "Wally National Bank".
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 (GLBA)
http://minneapolisfed.org/pubs/region/00-03/glb-summary.cfm
from above:
Out With the Old
The 1933 Glass-Steagall Act's prohibitions on affiliations between banks
and securities companies are repealed, as are the prohibitions on
affiliations between the banking and insurance industries under the 1956
Bank Holding Company Act.
...
Unitary Thrift Holding Companies
The unitary thrift holding company structure permits a commercial firm
to own a thrift, which are predominantly consumer lending
institutions. The bill forbids regulators from approving any
applications to become a unitary thrift holding company received after
May 4, 1999. Moreover, the bill allows existing unitary thrift holding
companies to be sold to financial companies. These provisions had the
effect of preventing Wal-Mart from taking on this charter.
... snip ...
there was testimony on floor of congress that the purpose of the bank
modernization act was to prevent microsoft and wal-mart from becomming
banks.
there has also been comments that revoking Glass-Steagall has
contributed to the current CDO crisis.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
....
Bank of Wal-Mart Sustains Another Hit, Former Congressman Bliley Warns
Congress About Wal-Mart
http://walmartwatch.com/press/releases/bank_of_wal_mart_sustains_another_hit_former_congressman_bliley_warns_congr/
now in the above, one of the objections to Wal-Mart becoming a bank, is
the issue that Wal-Mart does business with China.
including:
The commercial ties between Wal-Mart and China pose particular risks now
because China is loosening its artificial control of the valuation of
its currency. The FDIC and individual customers of a Wal-Mart bank - an
ILC without Federal Reserve oversight - could be at substantial risk not
only because of the fluctuations of foreign economies, but simply by
virtue of policy decisions made by the Chinese government.
... snip ...
however, in the current CDO crisis, financial institutions have taken
quite a large amount of foreign investment.
Giant Write-Down Is Seen for Merrill
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/business/11wall.html?ref=business
including ...
In recent months, the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation,
Singapore's lesser-known government fund, invested $9.7 billion in UBS;
Citigroup sold a $7.5 billion stake to the Abu Dhabi Investment
Authority; and the China Investment Corporation poured $5 billion into
Morgan Stanley.
... snip ...
Citigroup Could Write Down Up to $24 Billion
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/wireStory?id=4129442
from above:
The FT also reported on Saturday that Citigroup was putting the final
touches to its second big fundraising, seeking up to $14 billion from
Chinese, Kuwaiti and other investors.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:55:52
Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
We have Tesco and Sainsbury (national supermarket chains in the UK)
that provide banking facilities - I don't know if ASDA (Walmart)
does. Ah, yes it does (or at any rate relabels someone else's
services)
http://www.asdafinance.com/
http://www.sainsburysbank.co.uk/
http://www.tescofinance.com/
trying to inflame the opposition in the us?
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
the website that had the "2006 Former Congressman Bliley" reference
http://walmartwatch.com/
from latest news on the front page:
Bank Of Wal-Mart = One More Withdrawal
What do Wal-Mart and Home Depot have in common? In addition to their
sprawling size, both retailers wanted to buy banks in Utah and have
submitted applications to the FDIC for industrial loan charters (ILCs).
... snip ...
previous ILC reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#58 folklore indeed
also from website front page (almost appears to play on both sides of
the china issue):
Wal-Mart Can't Compete
http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/wal_mart_cant_compete/
from above:
Unfortunately for Wal-Mart, those prospects look grim. Despite
celebrating the approval of Wal-Mart China's 100th store with flowery
speeches from the US department of commerce secretary, Wal-Mart's
potential is dismal.
... snip ...
previous referenced Utah ILC website
http://www.dfi.state.ut.us/IBSlist.htm
from above:
Industrial Banks - As of September 30, 2007
Advanta Bank Corporation
Allegiance Direct Bank
American Express Centurion Bank
BMW Bank of North America, Inc.
Capmark Bank
Celtic Bank
CIT Bank
EnerBank
Escrow Bank
Exante Bank
First Electronic Bank
Franklin Templeton Credit Corp.
GE Capital Financial
GMAC Bank
Goldman Sachs Bank
LCA Bank Corporation
Lehman Brothers Commercial Bank
Medallion Bank
Merrick Bank Corporation
Merrill Lynch Bank
Morgan Stanley Bank
Republic Bank
Sallie Mae Bank
Target Bank
The Pitney Bowes Bank, Inc.
Transportation Alliance Bank, Inc.
UBS Bank
Union Financial Services Corp
USAA Financial Services Corp.
Valley Loan Corporation
WebBank
World Financial Capital Bank
Wright Express Financial Services
... snip ...
The identity of the owners appear to be evident in some of the names.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:18:55
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
I didn't either, but apparently we're living in the past. As someone
said,the lender just packaged the loans and re-sold them, so they had
no interest in verifying income. I guess I always thought there was
some kind of law regulating lending, but that's not true either.
and those purchasing the packages ... frequently didn't bother either
article referenced previously
U.S. Mortgage Crisis Rivals S&L Meltdown
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119724657737318810.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
from above:
Indeed, coming up with a value for a CDO entails analyzing more than 100
separate securities, each of which contains several thousand individual
loans -- a feat that, if done on any scale, can require millions of
dollars in computing power alone.
... snip ...
oft repeated reference of long-winded post mentioning S&L "meltdown"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm Thread Between Risk Management and Information Security
other recent posts about even when they did some analysis, it
didn't correctly evaluate the real risk:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#25 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#66 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#70 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:57:00
jmfbahciv writes:
They were not a half ton in my childhood days. I used sling bales
up and down from the haymow.
there was adjustment in the bailer on size of the bail ... i remember
handling alfalfa bales in range from about 40lb to 60lb (a few times,
80lb). how much moisture in the bale also affected the weight. as a kid
... throwing 40lb bale with either hand was fairly straight forward
... from ground to top of growing pile on flatbed (sometimes low
trailer, sometimes regular truck).
recent reference, working in field at 8
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#18 Scholars needed to build a computer history bibliography
wiki page lists 50-70lbs ... also mentions 500-1000kg for large
round bales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfalfa
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:48:29
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
If we weren't so wasteful of land, and had reasonable pulbic
transportation, there wouldn't be so many problems. Actually, IMO,
Boston has one of the best setups for commuters, with commuter rail
out as far as Foxboro, Natic, etc.
when i was taking it in the 70s ... portions of track were so bad that
speed limit was 5mph (and even then rocked from side to side). oldtimers
talked about when it was regularly 60-80mph along the stretch. there was
joke about stretch of track out near acton referred to as the boxcar
graveyard because of the large number of derailments (even with severely
restricted speed limits).
misc. past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#8 how to set up a computer system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#12 Home mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#41 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#43 Mainframe Emulation Solutions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#7 OT Global warming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#28 Penn Central RR computer system failure?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#14 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#45 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:13:37
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
All changed after the critiques of Milton Friedman and the `Chicago
boys', when the forbidden words became `overlegislation', `over
regulation', and so on. Some would date it back way earlier when those
who had experienced the horror of 1929 retired.. Imagine a banking
business that employed children to gamble on the stock market?.. Well,
we have. Its going to get worse, as we shift from the big companies
that actually make something in countries that have laws that force
disclosure (even if faulty), to the big manufacturing being done by
God know who, in God knows where.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
well, the claim could also be made about the "kid" technologists behind
the (massive failed) distributed/parallel, object-oriented
implementations in the 90s are part of the same symptom ... recent post
mentioning that the aftermath of those massive failures (in part because
of introducing enormous bloat and inefficiencies) continue to have
chilling effects
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#14 Break the rules of governance and lose 4.9 billion...
there were similar failures in the 90s with similarly ill-considered
security and integrity solutions ... posts on other massive bloat and
inefficient attempts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat
or the apparent lack of institutional knowledge recognizing
discontinuity between debit magstripes and credit magstripes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#67 Govt demands password to personal computer
this is also the theme of rapidly approaching retirement of large
numbers of baby boomers leaving enormous voids in institutional
knowledge
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#42 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#32 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#63 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#15 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#38 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#87 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#90 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#1 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:38:37
rpl <plinnane3@yahoo.com.invalid> writes:
I wonder how efficient the equipment the guy's standing next in the
picture is... looks like it could be made barn/large-garage fittable.
"2 bales of hay into 5 gallons of fuel"... nice, if true. (a US bale
is half a ton)
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#8 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
article also says:
May Wu, an environmental scientist at Argonne National Laboratory, says
Coskata's ethanol produces 84 percent less greenhouse gas than fossil
fuel even after accounting for the energy needed to produce and
transport the feedstock. It also generates 7.7 times more energy than is
required to produce it. Corn ethanol typically generates 1.3 times more
energy than is used producing it.
... snip ...
from their website:
http://www.coskataenergy.com/economic-benefits.html
from above:
The United States alone accounts for 25% of global oil consumption, yet
holds only 3% of the world's known oil reserves. Most known oil reserves
- approximately 60% - are found in sensitive and volatile regions of the
globe. An increasing strain on the world oil supply is also expected as
developing countries become more industrialized and increase their
energy demand.
... snip ...
another reference in the wired article:
DOE Selects Six Cellulosic Ethanol Plants for Up to $385 Million in
Federal Funding Funding to help bring cellulosic ethanol to market and
help revolutionize the industry
http://www.energy.gov/news/4827.htm
from above:
Cellulosic ethanol is an alternative fuel made from a wide variety of
non-food plant materials (or feedstocks), including agricultural wastes
such as corn stover and cereal straws, industrial plant waste like saw
dust and paper pulp, and energy crops grown specifically for fuel
production like switchgrass.
... snip ...
original post in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#80 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
other posts with this subject field:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#86 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#56 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#59 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#76 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#1 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#5 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#6 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#7 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#11 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#14 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#16 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:25:26
cb@mer.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) writes:
All I've been trying to say is that fundamentally, punched cards and
punched tape are equal on the 'human-readability' scale, since they both
require translation of patterns of holes into the corresponding
characters.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#77 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
depends on the level of fluency ... i would claim that being fluent in
Russian or Mandarin is significantly more difficult than being fluent in
(at least card) punch holes.
there are similar past discussions about being fluent in hex dumps
... being able to interpret the information directly as machine
instructions ... similarly dicussions vis-a-vis specifying program in
english (or other "natural" language) and then translate into
programming/machine language ... compared to just creating a program
directly in that language:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#64 Programming in School (was: Re: Common uses...)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#37 Would the value of knowledge and information be transferred or shared accurately across the different culture??????
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#26 Losing colonies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#48 Losing colonies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#48 Secure design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#49 Secure design
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:32:34
David Powell <ddotpowell@icuknet.co.uk> writes:
We didn't use straw when dad kept pigs, but sacks of barley weighed 12
stone apiece. Just as well that cement now comes in 56lb bags, I can
just about carry one, these days.
56lb?? ... what happened to 94lb?? ... post about carrying four bags at
a time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#46 Students mostly not ready for math, science college courses
Concret technology
http://www.cement.org/tech/faq_unit_weights.asp
from above:
It is standard practice to consider a 94 lb bag of cement to be one
cubic foot when freshly packed.
... snip
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:30:41
Peter Flass <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> writes:
The raters used historical figures for mortgage defaults, which didn't
apply here, since historical standrds for granting loans were being
ignored. Otherwise this would have been a reasonable way to
figure. One of the supposed advantages of securitizing the mortgages
was that it spread out the risk.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#13 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
... or a reasonable way to not actually have to figure. it is like
saying that round-robin spreads out cpu utilization ... w/o having to
actually implement metrics about actual resource utilization. i figured
that out as an undergraduate. misc. past posts about doing dynamic
adaptive resource management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare
recent posts mentioning actually needing accurate metrics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#59 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#61 Geekonomics: The Real Cost of Insecure Software
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:37:04
krw <kkk@kkk.kkk> writes:
As Peter indicated, the metrics can be done at loan origination.
You seem to be saying that it's then or never (not possible).
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#20 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
the references are about the whole infrastructure being instrumented and
there is ongoing analytics ... as in dynamic adaptive resource
management ... where ongoing information is constantly being evaluated.
past posts mentioning CDO analytics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#66 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#70 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
from past posts
How Conventional CDO Analytics Missed the Mark
http://www.bobsguide.com/guide/news/2007/Dec/20/Kamakura_Releases_Study:_How_Conventional_CDO_Analytics_Missed_the_Mark.html
again from above:
"Two years ago the Wall Street Journal in a page 1 story pointed out
the dangers in relying on the copula approach for CDO valuation, but
investors were slow to realize the magnitude of their model risk"
... snip ..
and
CDO Correlation: Reversal of Fortune; New Kamakura Study Proves Common
CDO Assumptions Can Lead to Serious Valuation Errors
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=811168
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:37:32
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#1 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UEOG1O0&show_article=1
semantics between sales and production ... possibly Toyota is gearing up
for bigger increase in 2008 (than GM)??
from above:
Toyota has been racking up growth recently, riding on its reputation for
quality and good mileage. Soaring gas prices are making smaller cars
that are Toyota's forte increasingly in demand.
... snip ...
one of the things from nearly 20yr old automobile C4, was that foreign
competition was significantly more agile in turning out brand new
vehicle ... elapsed time from concept to rolling off the line ... being
able to quickly adapt to changing market and/or other conditions. A lot
of this was efficiently leveraging IT technology.
old posts mentioning C4 effort:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#41 Reason Japanese cars are assembled in the US (was Re: American bigotry)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#43 Reason Japanese cars are assembled in the US (was Re: American bigotry)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#61 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#43 Sprint backs out of IBM outsourcing deal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#49 The Pankian Metaphor (redux)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#50 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#29 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#34 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#52 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#13 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#33 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#31 IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#4 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:55:08
greymaus <greymausg@mail.com> writes:
I remember reading an article once criticising the basics of physics,
which had an example of an abstract formula for a cow (assuming a
spherical body, supported by four legs, etc) which showed that a cow
was an impossiblity. A cow is a walking fermentation vessel.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#14 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
we once had a few cows get into an alfalfa field ... two of them were
saved by puncturing their side, releasing the gas ... but a 3rd died
(from the pressure). we pulled the 3rd to the side, strung it up and
butchered it on the spot.
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:18:00
eamacneil@YAHOO.CA (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
My degree is a major in computer science with a minor in statistics.
My first job was as a capacity analyst.
My degree was 100% applicable.
a lot of capacity planning came out of a lot of performance work at the
science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
... including modeling and workload profiling and the fundamentals for
capacity planning.
science center had done the port of apl\360 for cms\apl ... and rather
than the toy 16-32kbyte workspaces ... they could be as large as virtual
memory/machine size.
cms\apl became the basis for much of the sales/marketing support
applications on the world-wide hone system (sometime in the early 70s,
branch office couldn't even submit mainframe orders that hadn't first
been processed by hone application)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
one of the applications deployed on HONE was the performance predictor
(system analytically model from the science center implemented in apl
... allowing branch people to characterize the customer's configuration
and workload and then ask "what-if" questions regarding changes to
configuration and/or workload.
the production science center online system (first cp67 and then vm370)
was heavily instrumented and eventually had 7x24 activity data for
approaching two decades and established similar standard for other
internal systems.
besides the system analytical modeling (including the work that resulted
in the performance predictor application) there was also a number of
event-driven model implementations.
there were also a number of execution sampling implementations ... one
which resulted in VS/Repack product in the mid-70s ... which would take
trace of instruction address & storage references and do semi-automated
program reorganization for optimal paging operation. Before release as a
product, it was used extensively internally by several products making
transition from real-storage environment to virtual storage environment
(i.e. for instance, IMS made extensive use of the application).
another trace/sampling implementation was also used to determine what
functions went into VM ECPS (i.e. 6k bytes of vm370 kernel instructions
that represented approx. 70percent of kernel pathlength execution was
moved to microcode).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21
another performance optimization methodology used at the science center
was multiple regression analysis ... with the detailed 7x24 system
monitoring ... it was possible to determine where the system was
spending large percentage of its time.
i've mentioned before using this methodology on large 450k line cobol
application that had been heavily studied and optimized over period of a
couple of decades (using products like strobe). it ran on 40+ max
configured mainframe CECs ($1.2b-$1.5b aggregate). i used multiple
regression analysis to identify another 14percent performance
improvement (that hadn't been turned up using the other methodologies).
misc. recent references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#23 Strobe equivalents
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#24 Curiousity: CPU % for COBOL program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#50 Where can you get a Minor in Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#20 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#21 Distributed Computing
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:26:29
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
World Financial Capital Bank
... snip ...
The identity of the owners appear to be evident in some of the names.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
and for some unrelated Utah ILC drift
Blackstone's Alliance Data Deal Could Be Latest Victim of Credit Crunch
http://www.digitaltransactions.net/newsstory.cfm?newsid=1656
from above:
An Alliance Data press release indicated Blackstone was trying to blame
federal bank regulators for throwing a monkey wrench into the deal. The
release says Alliance received notice from a Blackstone affiliate late
Friday that Blackstone does not anticipate satisfying a condition laid
down by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the U.S. Treasury
Department's unit that regulates national banks, that it approve a
change in control of an Alliance-owned bank. Alliance Data owns World
Financial Network National Bank. The company also owns a Utah-chartered
industrial bank, World Financial Capital Bank, which is regulated by the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Collectively the two banks issue more
than 100 million private-label credit cards for about 85 retailers.
... snip ...
also:
Indeed, No. 1 payment processor First Data Corp. went private in
September just before the doors closed on other pending buyouts by
private-equity firms as banks, spooked by rising defaults in subprime
mortgages, started to tighten credit throughout the economy (Digital
Transactions News, Sept. 25, 2007)
... snip ...
i.e.
It's Labry up And Bailis out As KKR Completes Its First Data LBO
http://www.digitaltransactions.net/newsstory.cfm?newsid=1526
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Current Officers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:40:26
bbreynolds <bbreynolds@aol.com> writes:
We have about run out of officers who served in Vietnam: look
at their ribbons and see if you see one in the lower right area
which is green and white with a silver ribbon (reads 1960- );
without that, the now senior brass doesn't have direct knowledge
of the Vietnam guerilla experience. Senior generals now were
senior staff officers during Desert Storm, and expect to have
their name put on another Guderian/Schwartzkopf Blitzkreig.
However, they are fighting the sort of fight which the French
lost in Algeria, the British lost in Malaysia, the Dutch in
Indonesia, and the United States lost in South Vietnam.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#71 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#9 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
i.e. previous post mentioning the new generation of Boyd's "Jedi
Knights"
the claim is that the desert storm battle plan was Boyd's ... that
Schwarzkopf had a battle plan with tanks going head-to-head, slugging it
out until the last tank left standing. past post:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#35 Universal constants
reference from previous post:
Boyd's tactics and Operation Iraqi Freedom (illuminating background on
Iraq strategy)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/899525/posts
from above:
Coram: When Cheney became secretary of defense, he was rare in that he
knew more about strategy than most of his generals did. He called Boyd
out of retirement in the early days of the Gulf war, and from him got an
updating, if you will. And it was Boyd's strategy, not [Gen. Norman]
Schwarzkopf's, that led to our swift and decisive victory in the Gulf
war.
According to Bob Woodward's book, "The Commanders," Schwarzkopf was
"playing" the DC warplanners when he gave them his initial battle plan
(Hey-diddle-diddle, Up-the-middle). He expected that it would be
rejected and that he would therefore get the extra troops he was asking
for.
... snip ...
The (military channel) Legends of Air Power program on Boyd mentions
the Coram version ... but not Woodward's.
past posts mentioning Boyd:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
misc. URLs from around the web mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd2
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:07:00
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urjlew@bellsouth.net> writes:
Should a computer programmer be fluent in more than one programming language?
Does a knowledge of more than one computer programming language make the
learning of a new computer programming language easier?
How does knowing several computer languages affect the ability to view problems
from different sides and consider different solution approaches?
Do differences in the mother natural tongue affect the approaches to a solution
of computer system problems? For example, would a Hebrew approach to a system
of credit card sales be different from a Japanese approach and different from
an Anglo German approach?
previous post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#77 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
for a little topic drift, there has been a lot done on using
demographics in marketing to infer buying habits. however, in this
post, there is reference being brought in as consultants to design and
implement a system that would infer buying habits based on buying
habits (small pilot with 60mil accounts and something like 1.5m
transactions/day)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#56 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
recent post which had comment from a detailed, nine month study on how
i communicate:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#57 Govt demands password to personal computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#64 Govt demands password to personal computer
somewhat related ... recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#88 folklore indeed
with reference to:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080111102934.htm
from above:
Psychological research has established that American culture, which
values the individual, emphasizes the independence of objects from their
contexts, while East Asian societies emphasize the collective and the
contextual interdependence of objects. Behavioral studies have shown
that these cultural differences can influence memory and even
perception. But are they reflected in brain activity patterns?
... snip ...
a couple, somewhat related references turned up with quick web search:
Cultural and Linguistic Influence on Brain Organization for Language and
Possible Consequences for Dyslexia: A Review
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3809/is_200606/ai_n17186270
from above:
Learning to read and write influences the functional organization of the
brain. What is universal and what is specific in the languages of the
world are important issues. Most studies on healthy bilinguals indicate
that essentially the same neural mechanisms are used for first and
second languages, albeit with some linguistic and cultural influences
related to speech and writing systems, particularly between alphabetical
and nonalphabetical languages.
... snip ...
Cultural and linguistic influence on neural bases of ‘Theory of Mind':
An fMRI study with Japanese bilinguals
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WC0-4K42DGF-2&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=499feb326f577e852d06b366bb46da09
from above:
Theory of mind (ToM)—our ability to predict behaviors of others in terms
of their underlying intentions—has been thought to be universal and
invariant across different cultures. However, several ToM studies
conducted outside the Anglo-American cultural or linguistic boundaries
have obtained mixed results. To examine the influence of
culture/language on neural bases of ToM, we studied 16 American
English-speaking monolinguals and 16 Japanese-English bilinguals with
second-order false-belief story tasks, using functional magnetic
resonance imaging (fMRI). Several neural correlates of ToM including
medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) and anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) were
recruited by both cultural/linguistic groups. However, some other brain
areas including inferior frontal gyrus (IFG) were employed in a
culture/language-specific manner, during the ToM tasks. These results
suggest that the ways in which adults understand ToM are not entirely
universal.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:30:58
it now has been over 40yrs since i started work on virtualization
technology.
different strengths of virtualization are being used for addressing a
broad range of issues in the IT industry ... from server farm
efficiencies to client security.
a few news items from the past 24hrs:
Virtualization: Virtualization: The Key to an Efficient Data Center
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/61414.html
Microsoft's Broadened Virtualization Strategy
http://weblog.infoworld.com/virtualization/archives/2008/01/microsofts_broa.html
Microsoft: Virtually End-To-End
http://www.informationweek.com/management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205918226
InfoWorld's Virtualization Executive Forum Kicks Off Monday, February
4th
http://www.infoworld.com/pressreleases/archives/2008/01/infoworldas_vir_1.html
Virtualization Market Heats Up
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Virtualization/Virtualization-Market-Heats-Up/
The Move From Physical To Virtual
http://www.informationweek.com/management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205918003
Action Plan: Putting Virtualization In Project Life-Cycle Stages Of
Planning -- Virtualization
http://www.informationweek.com/management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205918022
Platform Computing VM Orchestrator | Virtually Speaking
http://blogs.zdnet.com/virtualization/?p=329
Virtualization taking thin clients mainstream?
http://www.echannelline.com/usa/story.cfm?item=22877
Opinion: Server virtualization opens door to smart planning
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Storage&articleId=9059580&taxonomyId=19
Xsigo I/O Virtualization On TechWebTV
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/01/xsigo_io_virtua.html
Virtualization Wars, What Can Vmware Learn From The Past?
http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=6985
Changing Virtualization Services In Wake Of VMware Server ESX 3i
http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=6979
VMware, A $1 Billion-A-Year Company, Slips Below 2008 Expectations --
Virtualization
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205920681
VMware stock plummets, but it won't ease pricing in 2008 — Server
Virtualization Blog
http://servervirtualization.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/01/28/vmware-stock-plummets-but-it-wont-ease-pricing-in-2008/
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New Opcodes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:00:00
m42tom-ibmmain@YAHOO.COM (Tom Marchant) writes:
It also says, "894 instructions (668 implemented entirely in hardware)"
The latest POO lists about 750 instructions. I know that there are a few not
listed in the POO. Still, it sounds like it's a lot over 50.
as per past discussions re the architecture "red book" (i.e. cms script
file where command line option would print the full machine architecture
or just the POO subset, full machine architecture was distributed in red
3ring binders) and compare&swap instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
getting an instruction added could require a lot of justification.
so one way of parsing the reference to 50+ added instructions to
improve compiled code efficiency ... could be referring to over 50 of
the added instructions were justified for improving compiled code
efficiency (w/o saying anything at all about the total number of added
instructions and/or what was the justification for any of the other
added instructions).
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:39:44
jmfbahciv writes:
Oh, good grief. Did you understand anything about the thought
process that was being presented?
some of the issue is related to this quote of his ... i've
referenced in past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#35 War, Chaos, & Business (web site), or Col John Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#20 MS to world: Stop sending money, we have enough - was Re: Most ... can't run Vista
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#74 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#61 Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#45 windows time service
and the contrast between how he was treated by the mainstream and his
many accomplishments.
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Kerberized authorization service
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:03:10
Ken Hornstein <kenh@cmf.nrl.navy.mil> writes:
I am not that sure, actually. Every time I look at SAML, I re-remember
my biggest issue with it - the spec is frickin' huge (379 pages for all
of the documents for SAML 2.0). Also, it's rather "webby" ... I mean,
the protocol is based on HTTP? You need an XML library? And it seems
that you probably need SOAP in there as well. Every example I've seen
of it clearly is web-oriented. I guess I see the advantage to using
it when you have an already-bloated web server, but cramming all of
that into sshd? Ugh.
i remember sitting in on an early vendor SAML presentation about
implementation/deployment for coalition forces.
at the end, i went up to talk to the person doing the presentation (cto
or some other person from the vendor) and commented that the message
flows looked exactly like cross-domain kerberos (except using SAML
formated messages). after some further discussion, he conceded that
there are only so many ways that such a thing could be accomplished.
kerberos was done in project athena at mit with equal funding by two
computer companies (there were two project athena assistant directors,
one from each vendor). somewhat as a result we would get to periodically
go by and review what was going on. one week we were there, got to
participate in early design sessions for cross-domain kerberos.
one of the assistant directors i had worked at with at the science
center ... at the time of project athena was down the street ... but
earlier had been at 545 tech sq ... misc. past references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
for other topic drift ... gml had been invented at the science center in
1969 and subsequently morphed into sgml, html, xml, and saml. misc.
past references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#sgml
and for even more topic drift ... misc. posts about kerberos
and pk-init
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#kerberos
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New Opcodes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:42:36
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcodes
justification is justification ... not all have to be there based on the
same justification.
as an aside ... there was some similar speculation two decades ago about
such stuff. there was even some speculation that one of the other clone
processor vendors creation of "macrocode" was to enable them to quickly
adapt to such things (be more agile in tracking, implementing, deploying
changes).
misc. past posts mentioning macrocode.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System Programmer/Administrator market demand?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word "microcode"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word "microcode"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned programming language
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New Instructions for the z9 Processor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying microcode? Would it even be useful?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New Opcodes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:47:05
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
as an aside ... there was some similar speculation two decades ago about
such stuff. there was even some speculation that one of the other clone
processor vendors creation of "macrocode" was to enable them to quickly
adapt to such things (be more agile in tracking, implementing, deploying
changes).
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcdoes
actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction
of cross-memory instructions and dual-address space mode on 3033
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:54:55
jmfbahciv writes:
History of man is filled with this kind of jealousy and fear.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#30 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
we had signed up for the (last really good) "early out" program a year
before we took it (the year the company went into the red).
in the executive exit interview ... one of the comments was that they
could have forgiven me for being wrong ... but they were never going
to forgive me for being right
misc. past references/posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#61 arrogance metrics (Benoits) was: general networking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#16 cost of crossing kernel/user boundary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#71 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#14 I am an ageing techy, expert on everything. Let me explain the
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#26 MS to world: Stop sending money, we have enough - was Re: Most ... can't run Vista
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#48 time spent/day on a computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#3 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#6 The history of Structure capabilities
other topic drift:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#57 Govt demands password to personal computer
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New Opcodes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:18:43
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction
of cross-memory instructions and dual-address space mode on 3033
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcdoes
part of the speculation was that the cross-memory/dual-address space
instructions used more STOs (segment table origins) simultaneously
... and the 3033 had inherited its TLB (and STO-associative)
implementation from 168. The additional concurrent STO use activity
was putting pressure on TLB-miss and therefor performance.
one the other hand, large 168 & 3033 installation were facing
enormous pressure on amount of application addressable space ...
aka pasts posts about pointer passing paradigm from real memory heritage
dictated the SVS and subsequent MVS implementation with the kernel
appearing in the application address space. The MVS design included
moving (non-kernel) subsystems into their own address space
... dictating the common segment implementation (supporting squirreling
away data for pointer passing APIs). Larger installations were having to
constantly grow the common segment ... with 24bit addressing (16mbyte),
kernel taking up 8mbytes ... and the common segment growing from 4mbytes
to 5mbytes (and more) ... was only leave 3-4mbytes (or less) for
applications (even tho there was a virtual address space per
application).
the future system distraction had redirected a lot of effort
into non-370 activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#futuresys
when future system was killed, there was mad rush to get stuff back
into the 370 product pipeline. 370-xa was going to take 7-8 yrs (with
31-bit addressing, access registers, program call & return,
etc). the stop-gap was 3033 ... which was 168 wiring/logic remapped to
faster chip technology. The increasing machine capacity was adding
more applications, tending to grow the common segment and putting
massive pressure on available (virtual) memory for applications.
There was speculation that 3033 cross-memory and dual-address space
hardware changes was purely to create incompatibilities for the clone
processor vendors ... however there was more than enuf other
justification, even if the clone vendors hadn't existed at all
(intermediate step on the way to access registers) ... aka
dual-address space instructions allowed subsystem to reach directly
into the calling application's virtual address to direclty access
values pointed to by the passed pointers (w/o requiring the common
segment hack).
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:39:10
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
previous post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#77 Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?
for a little topic drift, there has been a lot done on using
demographics in marketing to infer buy habits. however, in this post,
there is reference being brought in as consultants to design a system
that would infer buying habits based on buying habits (small pilot with
60mil accounts and something like 1.5m transactions/day)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#56 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#27 Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
one of the more interesting challenges of the project was that we had
been brought in when 2/3rds of the budget had already been spent. we
had to scrap what had been done and start from scratch with new design,
implementation and deployment ... AND do it all within the remaining
1/3rd of the budget (even coming in under budget).
the original was another one of those toy demo efforts that started
appearing in the period ... frequently mentioned in past posts ... loads
of leading edge technology used for toy demos ... but incapable of any
scaleup.
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:51:51
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <urjlew@bellsouth.net> writes:
Now remove the reference to a specific profession, i.e. computer
programmer, and replace natural language(s) for computer programming
languages, and ask the same/analogous questions!
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#27 Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#36 Diversity ( was Re: Usefulness of bidirectional read/write?)
some of this might be considered to have happened with legacy stuff
being mostly batch cobol and re-engineering efforts attempting to use
C++ and corba ... with C++/corba toy demos, then attempting to scaleup
into production, finding that there was factor 100 times increase in
overhead (vis-a-vis legacy batch cobol) ... this was repeated numerous
times ... not just in payment transaction processing.
some of this has been accompanied trying to move massive backend
repositories off IMS to some RDBMS ... there continues to be claims that
the majority of these infrastructures are still IMS/VSAM.
and for a little other topic drift
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#24 Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:35:21
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
I would claim that Boyd applied his fighter pilot & "dog fight"
background to (ground based) maneuver warfare ... including bypassing
fixed fortifications. There have been numerous claims that way too much
cannon fodder was wasted not doing that in the ww2 pacific campaign.
recent boyd reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#45 windows time service
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#71 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#9 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
2008c.html#30 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
... another reference ...
The March Up: Taking Baghdad with the 1st Marine Division, by Bing West
and Major General Ray Smith, USMC (Ret)
http://www.strategypage.com/bookreviews/221.asp
from above:
In one key example, a young Marine tasked with capturing a critical oil
distribution pumping station asks MG Smith his thoughts on Colonel John
Boyd's maneuver warfare theories. Boyd, based on his experience as a
fighter pilot, hypothesized that victory goes to the side that thinks,
decides, and acts faster than its adversary. The authors use the Army
command's logistics-driven interruption of the Marines' speedy advance
on Baghdad to illustrate the cultural differences between the two
services and the nature of Boyd's lessons in action. They capture Marine
generals' concerns that the Army might continue "stacking BBs"
indefinitely while the Iraqis put together a coherent defense, and cover
the subsequent bad press and political pressure from Washington that end
the pause.
... snip ...
past posts mentioning logistics driven, rigid command & control:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#120 atomic History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#16 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#65 Dijkstra on "The End of Computing Science"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#86 Organizations with two or more Managers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#45 time spent/day on a computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#55 time spent/day on a computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#89 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#45 No Glory for the PDP-15
misc. past posts mentioning boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
misc. URLs from around the web mentioning boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd2
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Current Officers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:39:21
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the claim is that the desert storm battle plan was Boyd's ... that
Schwarzkopf had a battle plan with tanks going head-to-head, slugging it
out until the last tank left standing. past post:
i.e., not only did boyd provide the strategic battle plan for the
conflict,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
but his "jedi knights" were responsible for executing much of
the tactical operations during the conflict.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#36 windows time service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#45 windows time service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#71 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#9 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#38 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
misc. past boyd posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Current Officers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:52:05
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
i.e., not only did boyd provide the strategic battle plan for the
conflict,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
but his "jedi knights" were responsible for executing much of
the tactical operations during the conflict.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#36 windows time service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#45 windows time service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#71 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#9 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#38 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#39 Current Officers
aka, the "jedi knights" primarily referred to the ground conflict ...
while in the air, Boyd was responsible for designing many of the planes
that were flying ... and the pilots flying those planes learned from a
training manual he had written.
misc. boyd posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:06:55
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-01/giot-mou012408.php
from above:
The study's indicators predict that China will soon pass the United
States in the critical ability to develop basic science and technology,
turn those developments into products and services – and then market
them to the world. Though China is often seen as just a low-cost
producer of manufactured goods, the new "High Tech Indicators" study
done by researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology clearly shows
that the Asian powerhouse has much bigger aspirations.
... snip ...
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#78 Move over US -- China to be new driver of world's economy and innovation
and related:
China Now the No. 1 Tech Nation
http://blogs.cioinsight.com/research_central/content001/globalization/georgia_tech_china_now_the_no_1_tech_nation.html
from above:
"Since World War II, the United States has been the main driver of the
global economy. Now we have a situation in which technology products are
going to be appearing in the marketplace that were not developed or
commercialized here. We won't have had any involvement with them and may
not even know they are coming."
... snip ...
possibly also related:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#44 China's Godson-2 processor takes center stage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#52 China's Godson-2 processor takes center stage
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: New Opcodes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:24:06
m42tom-ibmmain@YAHOO.COM (Tom Marchant) writes:
There may have been speculation within IBM that Macrocode, and the
architecture that enabled it, was to make it easier to develop new features. I
can tell you that I was at Amdahl at the time working on the 580. That was
definitely a major reason for it.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcodes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcodes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcodes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#35 New Opcodes
well, how should i have phrased it? ...
i would run into lots people ... including at the monthly SLAC
meetings ... and frequently be asked for advice ... there was lots of
issues about not divulging confidences ... even confidences for
companies i didn't work for.
complicating things, i had a nearly complete set of individually
serial numbered (candy striped) 811 documents (i.e. architecture
documents named for their nov78 date).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Current Officers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:11:19
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
aka, the "jedi knights" primarily referred to the ground conflict ...
while in the air, Body was responsible for designing many of the planes
that were flying ... and the pilots flying those planes learned from a
training manual he had written.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#39 Current Officers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#40 Current Officers
for a little more computer oriented ... Boyd ran datacenter in the early
70s at "spook base". I had thot that the renton datacenter was large
... but the "spook base" datacenter has been described as a $2.5b
windfall for ibm (possibly the largest in the world at the time).
while he was tolerated in some of his plane designs ... there was strong
opposition to his work on F16. the opposition was so strong that the air
force threw its legal forces into proving that he had stolen millions of
dollars in gov. property (the supercomputing time he was using for the
F16 design work) so they could throw him into Leavenworth for the rest of
his life. fortunately, they were never able to find how he was doing it
and they gave up (even tho they knew it had to be going on) ... aka Boyd
anticipating that they might pull something like this, he had thoroughly
hidden his tracks.
past posts mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html#boyd
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:01:21
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
hot news item in real time is that some trader at a french bank
involving nearly $8billion was responsible for large part of world
market volitility over the past week.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#82 Break the rules of governance and loose 4.9 billion
... and (although systemic risk and things like insiders have always
been significant issues ... just not in the popular press)
The Rise of Systemic Financial Risk
http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/20133/
from above
One natural hypothesis is that the global sell-off that happened early
last week was a direct outcome of Societe Generale's unwinding of these
rogue trades. We don't have any conclusive evidence yet, but it's not an
outlandish conjecture given the circumstances surrounding the massive
fraud that was allegedly committed. According to Societe Generale, the
problem was discovered on Saturday [January 19], and the firm began
unwinding their portfolio at the first possible opportunity. If it turns
out that this "unwind" was on the scale of a billion dollars or more, it
is plausible that the unwind itself triggered the global sell-off--first
in Asia, then in Europe, and then in the U.S.
... snip ...
one account was that there was over $50bil in positions ... all betting
on the market going up. when they discovered the problem ... and watched
the market falling ... they unloaded the positions (worried that if they
stayed in, the resulting loss would be much worse) ... which created
something of a panic.
... recent post mentioning insider problems and possible someday
state-of-the-art getting back to 25yrs ago ... with work on collusion
countermeasures (i.e. multiple individuals attempting to subvert insider
controls).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#26 folklore indeed
misc. past posts mentioning systemic risk:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay2.htm#fed Federal CP model and financial transactions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay2.htm#cadis disaster recovery cross-posting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay2.htm#aadspriv Account Authority Digital Signatures ... in support of x9.59
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm2.htm#risk another characteristic of online validation.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm2.htm#straw AADS Strawman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm2.htm#strawm3 AADS Strawman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm3.htm#cstech7 cardtech/securetech & CA PKI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm10.htm#smallpay2 Small/Secure Payment Business Models
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#13 Smartcard security (& PKI systemic risk) thread in sci.crypt n.g
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#19 Misc. payment, security, fraud, & authentication GAO reports (long posting)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#22 A crazy thought?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#41 AADS, X9.59, & privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#156 checks (was S/390 on PowerPC?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#238 Attacks on a PKI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#240 Attacks on a PKI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#36 "Trusted" CA - Oxymoron?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#34 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#45 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#35 Security Concerns in the Financial Services Industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#54 The demise of compaq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#7 Opinion on smartcard security requested
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#31 You think? TOM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#5 What good is RSA when using passwords ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#64 Can you use ECC to produce digital signatures? It doesn't see
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#11 AES-128 good enough for medical data?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#2 Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#5 Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#14 US fiscal policy (Was: Bob Bemer, Computer Pioneer,Father of ASCII,Invento
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#10 Revoking the Root
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#11 Revoking the Root
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005v.html#3 ABN Tape - Found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#26 Debit Cards HACKED now
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#28 Key exchange
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#17 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#12 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#39 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#41 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#48 My Dream PC -- Chip-Based
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Young mainframers' group gains momentum
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:06:04
Young mainframers' group gains momentum
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/013108-young-mainframers-group-gains.html
Young mainframers' group gains momentum
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9060499
from above:
ZNextGen, an organization aimed at young mainframe programmers, has
gained significant momentum since it was created roughly two years ago
through IBM and its user group, Share, according to its leaders.
... snip ...
SHARE zNextGen
http://www.znextgen.org/
from above:
zNextGen, a user-driven community for new and emerging System z
professionals that has the resources to help expediate your professional
development skills.
... snip ...
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:58:22
Bernd Felsche <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> writes:
It provides for expansion in "smarter jobs" and for shorter working
hours by allowing more people in the same position (e.g. 4 x 6-hour
shifts vs 3 x 8-hour). Individual productivity increases need not be
reflected proportionately in pay. Doing more work with less effort
for less time and receiving about the same take-home pay is a
reward. More of the person is being employed; a different balance of
physical and intellectual effort.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
the original post was with respect to "smarter" throughout the
infrastructure ... "smarter" also as in more competitive.
one of the major points about c4 ... wasn't just about producing better
products ... but about quickly being able to change & adapt the products
being offered to changing market/consumer demands (timely products that
customers actually want can be vastly superior to any kind of product
that customers don't want).
the public had somewhat gotten accustomed to it taking 7-8 yrs elapsed
time for new automobile products .... almost a foreign concept that
totally new product might be possible within a single model year (or
even less).
one of the other "smarter" references in past postings mentioning c4 and
automobile product "agility" ... was that with the import quotas
... they figured out that they could sell that many, high-end luxary
vehicles ... and so completely changed the product offering (effectively
to a product, that with approx. the same amount of work, produced a
product which sold for 5-10 times as much).
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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Data Erasure Products
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 31 Jan 2008 18:33:02 -0800
ibm-main@CSS.AU.COM (Stephen Mednick) writes:
it's not a case of how valuable the data is, more importantly it's
to do with what the security classification is that has been
assigned to the data. Depending on the data's security
classification dictates the media overwriting/sanitisation method
that is it be deployed in accordance with government requirements.
security classification is simplification ... like role-based access
qcontrol is simplification for permissions. ... recent post on dealing
with permissions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#26 folklore indeed
the issue normally reduces to what is the threat model? security
classification tends to be associated with threat model where
divulging the information is not desirable ... and classification
level attempts to make the measures to prevent information divulging
proportional to the damange that might happen if the information is
divulged (and/or the effort that an attacker will go to in order to
get the data). For magnetic media this might be something like
overwritting a specific number of times with (different) random data
... nist standard:
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-88/NISTSP800-88_rev1.pdf
An example of how this gets simplified is example of consumer financial
information stored at a merchant. The "damage" gets translated into
security proportional to risk ... and the risk is what is the value of
the information to the merchant ... old post on the subject:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#61 Security Proportional To Risk
The problem is that the real threat model and therefor risk, is that
the value of the information to the consumer (and to any attacking
crook) is possibly one hundred times larger than the value of the
information to the merchant. The merchant is required to keep
transaction logs (and the associated account numbers) for some period
as part of mandated business processes.
The information value (to the merchant) is some part of the merchant's
profit margin on the transaction ... for hypothetical example for some
number of product transactions, this could be $10,000. The value of
the information to the crook, is related to the credit limits
associated with the individual accounts. This could conceivable be
$10,000,000 (totally unrelated to the value of the information to the
merchant, i.e. some portion of the profit on the purchased
products). Since the value to the crook can be 100 to 1000 times
larger, the attacking crooks can afford to outspend the defending
merchants by possibly one hundred times.
in the mid-90s, the x9a10 financial standard working group had been
given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial
infrastructure for all retail payments. Part of this was looking in
detail at end-to-end vulnerabilities and threat models ... as part of
coming up with x9.59 financial standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
part of the x9.59 financial standard was eliminating the usefulness of
the account transaction log information (at merchants) to attacking
crooks .... i.e. it didn't involve trying to prevent attacking crooks
from getting at the information ... it just made the information
useless to crooks for performing fraudulent financial transactions.
A different exa