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2016 Newsgroup Postings (01/01 - 02/01)

Repealing Glass-Steagall
I Feel Old
History question - In what year did IBM first release its DF/DSS backup & restore product?
I Feel Old
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Fibre Chanel Vs FICON
Repealing Glass-Steagall
I Feel Old
"Too Big To Fail"
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
25 Years: How the Web began
25 Years: How the Web began
1970--protesters seize computer center
1970--protesters seize computer center
1970--protesters seize computer center
Dilbert ... oh, you must work for IBM
1970--protesters seize computer center
1970--protesters seize computer center
1970--protesters seize computer center
Fibre Chanel Vs FICON
Living With Fog and Friction: The Fallacy of Information Superiority
How Corrupt Is the American Government
I Feel Old
the legacy of Seymour Cray
1976 vs. 2016?
1976 vs. 2016?
1970--protesters seize computer center
1976 vs. 2016?
1976 vs. 2016?
1976 vs. 2016?
I Feel Old
I Feel Old
I Feel Old
IBM STRETCH repricing decision?
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
the legacy of Seymour Cray
I Feel Old
I Feel Old
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
I Feel Old
1976 vs. 2016?
1976 vs. 2016?
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Strategy
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Compile error
Strategy
Compile error
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Compile error
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Man Versus System
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Compile error
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Lineage of TPF
Where do you place VSE?
Lineage of TPF
Lineage of TPF
Lineage of TPF
Lineage of TPF
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Lineage of TPF
American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare
Pentagon to take over control of background investigation information
DEC and The Americans
Mainframe Virtual Memory
Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Thanks Obama
DEC and The Americans
DEC and The Americans
DEC and The Americans
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
The Pentagon's Pricey Culture of Mediocrity
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
3270 based ATMs
Internal Network, NSFNET, Internet
Thanks Obama

Repealing Glass-Steagall

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Repealing Glass-Steagall
Date: 01 Jan 2016
Blog: Linkedin
In competition to be the next AMEX CEO, the looser leaves taking his protegee and then make some number acquisitions, eventually acquiring Citibank in violation of Glass-Stegall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby DC for repeal of Glass-Steagall. The rhetoric in congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA was if you already have a banking charter, you got to keep it, but if you didn't, you couldn't get one (keeping new competition out of banking). Then several other things were added. GLBA originally passes senate along party lines and President was set to veto it. They then go back and do other things to it and it passes with veto-proof 90-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act
posts mentioning Pecora Hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
former president of AMEX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, I was asked to try and help prevent the coming economic mess by looking at improving the integrity of supporting documents as countermeasures. Then lenders were securitizing loans&mortgages and paying for triple-A ratings. Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans. Being able to pay for triple-A eliminated any reason for loan originators to care about loan quality, they could sell off (all loans as fast as they could be made) to customers restricted to dealing in "safe" investments, largely enabling over $27T done 2001-2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

Oct2008 congressional hearings on the pivotal role that the rating agencies played in the economic mess had testimony that both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A. The triple-A ratings on securitized loans/mortgages, allowed mortgages to be moved out of the depository institutions and into investment banking and "bond" markets.

At one point, investors start to realize that triple-A ratings are up for sale and they might not be able to trust any ratings ...and cut back on investing ... including totally freezing the muni-bond market. Warren Buffett then steps and started offering muni-bond insurance to unfreeze the market

Loans/mortgages had been done by regulated banks (using deposits). Securitization & paying for triple-A ratings allowed non-depository institutions to jump into the market being able to use wallstreet and bond market as source of funds (immediately selling off loans/mortgages). Wallstreet loves it since it is new source of fees & commissions. Claims wallstreet tripled in size (as percent of GDP) during the period

Initially paying for triple-A rating eliminated any reason to care about loan/mortgage quality. Then they realize that they can securitize mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their victims and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for bad mortgages)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

AIG is the largest holder of these CDS gambling bets and is negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar, when the US Sec. of Treasury steps in and forces them to sign that they can't sue the betters and take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of the payoffs is company formally headed by Sec. of Treasury

VP (former replacement CIA director) ... claims no knowledge of such activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

and another presides over the economic mess, 70 times larger than S&L crisis.

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:11:43 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Or, watching the speedometer of an electric train hit 101 mph (which, sadly, for reasons I don't understand, they can no longer do.)

I remember moving to Boston area in 1970 and commuting on B&M into North Station. Some of the regulars said that they could remember when the train would hit top speed of 80-90MPH on sections which speed limits as low as 5MPH. The problem was lack of track maintenance for 20years ... the tracks were unstable ... some railroad ties were so rotten, you could stick you finger into them.

some past B&M refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#12 Home mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#41 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#28 Penn Central RR computer system failure?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#62 Urban transportation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#83 What Makes travel Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#42 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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History question - In what year did IBM first release its DF/DSS backup & restore product?

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: History question - In what year did IBM first release its DF/DSS backup & restore product?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 2 Jan 2016 14:49:55 -0800
ibmmain@COMPUTERSUPERVISORYSERVICES.COM (Stephen Mednick) writes:
Looking to find the answer to the question "in which year did IBM release its DF/DSS backup & restore product."

some trivia from the web
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/InsideSystemStorage/entry/ibm_storwize_product_name_decoder_ring1?lang=en
In my post January 2009 post [Congratulations to Ken on your QCC Milestone], I mentioned that my colleague Ken Hannigan worked on an internal project initially called "Workstation Data Save Facility" (WDSF) which was changed to "Data Facility Distributed Storage Manager" (DFDSM), then renamed to ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager (ADSM), and finally renamed to the name it has today: IBM Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM).

... snip ...

Note: I had originally developed CMSBACK in the late 70s that was used at a number of internal sites (including the online world-wide, sales&marketing support HONE). It went through a number of internal releases at San Jose Research ... which morphed into Almaden research when research moved up the hill in the mid-80s. Ability to back up from distributed systems was added and then released to customers as workstation datasave facility. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback
past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cmsback

It was picked up by the storage division ... and renamed ADSM ... adstar storage manager ... storage division had been renamed adstar as part of reorganizing the company into the 13 baby blues in preparation for breaking up the company (then the board brought in a new CEO to reverse the breakup and resurrect the company).

The company acquired Tivoli (started by a couple former IBMers that had been at the rs/6000 workstation group in Austin) and ADSM was moved to Tivoli morphing into TSM.

We spent some amount of time consulting for the ADSTAR VP of software on number of items ... not just ADSM, he also was behind the original MVS/USS development ... and provided funding for some number of non-IBM storage related startups. I've mentioned several times:
A senior disk engineer got a talk scheduled at communication group world-wide internal annual conference supposedly on 3174 performance ... however he opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had strangle hold on datacenters with its strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter wall and was fighting off distributed computing and client/server trying to preserve its (emulated) dumb terminal paradigm and install base. The disk division was seeing data fleeing to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. The disk division had come up with a number of solutions to reverse the trend, but they were constantly vetoed by the communication group.

...

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

As attempted work-around (to the communication group), the VP of software would also fund non-IBM efforts to provide mainframe distributed computing and part of what he had us do was try and keep track of some number of these activities.

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:00:18 -0800
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Here in the (NY) Capital District the two major employers used to be state government and a company I'll call Generous Electric; from my recollection the benefits used to be equivalent: health care, pension, job security, etc. Over the years GE has had numerous layoffs and I believe have reduced benefits. The State has stayed about the same, with a few minor layoffs here and there. In my case they changed what had been a contributory pension plan to non-contributory, although other "tiers" (based on employment date) got worse. Rather than a layoff the State tends to shed employees by giving old-timers some time credited toward their retirement if they leave right away.

piece of recent "IBM Retirees" discussion on facebook ... GE basically depreciating its traditional manufacturing ... and all growth was in financial services ... which was largely computerized and required much fewer employees (per dollar earned):

Welch pushes GE Capital into one of the major institutions responsible for the financial mess ... and the growth in GE's bottom line.. "Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present", pg200/loc3925-30:

The CNNMoney writers got it slightly wrong. GE was not exactly like the American economy. It was even more dependent on financial services. In the early 2000s, GE was again riding a financial wave, the subprime mortgage lending boom; it had even bought a subprime mortgage broker. GE borrowed still more against equity to exploit the remarkable opportunities, its triple-A rating giving it a major competitive advantage. By 2008, the central weakness of the Welch business strategy, its dependence on financial overspeculation, became ominously clear. GE's profits plunged during the credit crisis and its stock price fell by 60 percent. GE Capital, the main source of its success for twenty-five years, now reported enormous losses.

pg324/loc6382-85:
General Electric's persistent earnings increases were a leading example of how earnings were manipulated to produce consistent gains. Fortune analyzed how Jack Welch used both pension fund reserves and reserves at GE Capital to supplement quarterly earnings in order to make them rise consistently. As noted, they rose every quarter for almost thirteen years. GE stock roughly tripled between 1990 and 1995 and then quintupled between 1995 and early 2000.

... snip ...

Lots of financial engineering ... like what goes on with current stock buyback craze

....

past posts mentioning "GE Capital", Welch, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#13 Why? (Was: US Military Dead during Iraq War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#48 Gartner: Stop Outsourcing Now
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#26 realtors (and GM, too!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#9 Bletchley Park fires up replica Turing Bombe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#9 The Dumbest Idea In The World: Maximizing Shareholder Value
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#77 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#62 Why Is Finance So Big?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#66 Predator GE: We Bring Bad Things to Life
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#77 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#33 Management Secrets From Inside GE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#50 IBM Furloughs U.S. Hardware Employees to Reduce Costs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#51 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#84 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#147 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#59 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:07:30 -0800
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
Well, that was true as long as combat meant "hand-to-hand", since women as a group are smaller, weaker, and at a disadvantage there. OTOH, driving a tank, or flying a plane, or killing enemy from a distance, size and physical strength aren't as much at issue. In WWII women were quite visible in the Soviet ranks, and some of the snipers and pilots (and even a tank driver or two) won great renown. Machine gun crews and combat medics, too.

there are items that over 2/3rd of US youths can't meet requirements

Pentagon: 7 in 10 Youths Would Fail to Qualify for Military Service
http://time.com/2938158/youth-fail-to-qualify-military-service/

so military is forced to get significantly less selective.

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Fibre Chanel Vs FICON

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Fibre Chanel Vs FICON
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 3 Jan 2016 10:18:30 -0800
Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> writes:
I'm shortly going to be the new owner of a z800 at home. Looking forward to booting and playing with this bistro, what kind of disk array do I need? Is fibre channel storage enough, or is FICON extra special at the protocol level? Is there any way to network boot/emulate storage or will I be looking for FICON arrays next?

there are two issues ... one is the FICON protoool running over fibre-channel standard ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

and controller emulation of CKD on industry standard fixed-block disks (there haven't been any real CKD manufactured for decades).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

there have been various past discussions about IBM charging/justifying a significant $$/mbyte premium for that emulation

trivia

Build Your Own Fibre Channel SAN For Less Than $1000 - Part 1
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-howto/31485-build-your-own-fibre-channel-san-for-less-than-1000-part-1

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Repealing Glass-Steagall

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Repealing Glass-Steagall
Date: 03 Jan 2016
Blog: Linkedin
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#0 Repealing Glass-Steagall

The effect of repeal of Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

... allowed depository institutions to combine with other institutions that were responsible for the housing bubble (and playing with rating agencies for fabricated triple-A ratings) ... supposedly justifying too big to fail ... as well as too big to prosecute and too big to jail ... not just for housing bubble, but lots of other illegal activity, manipulating LIBOR, FOREX, commodities market, money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists, robo-signing fabricated documents and lots of other stuff. too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

After acquiring citibank in violation of Glass-Steagall and Greenspan giving them exemption while they lobby congress for repeal (got buried in GLBA), they enlisted several in DC ... including Clinton's Sec. of Treasury (who had previously headed the same institution that the Sec. of Treasury last decade headed). After GLBA was in the final process, he resigns and joins Citibank, which at the time was described as co-CEO. Disclaimer: he would show up at PDA61 financial industry meetings in the white house annex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Infrastructure_Protection

The legislation that came the closest to addressing the housing bubble ... was buried in Sarbanes-Oxley. The rhetoric was SOX would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives (and auditors) did jailtime ... but it required SEC to do something.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything last decade, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial statements, even showing increase after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

SOX also had provision for SEC to do something about the rating agencies (which were selling triple-A ratings on securitized mortgages, providing the >$27T fuel for the bubble) ... but SEC wasn't doing anything about that either (lots of regulation existed, it just wasn't being enforced last decade)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

At the Madoff congressional hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

#1 on times list responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html

... head of mortgage company unaffected by Glass-Steagall ... specialized in paying for triple-A ratings on securitized mortgages.

#2 in times list responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

... responsible for GLBA (included repeal of Glass-Steagall) ... but on the list (along with his wife) responsible for preventing regulation of CDS gambling bets ... originally billed as favor for ENRON. His wife was head of CFTC blocking CDS gambling bet regulation, while he was getting legislation passed preventing CDS gambling bets regulation. After the bill passes, the wife resigns and joins ENRON board and the audit committee. From law of unintended consequences ... then those packaging securitized mortgages and paying for triple-A ratings ... could package securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victims, and then make CDS gambling bets that they woudl fail.

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:36:55 -0800
hancock4 writes:
FWIW, one of my friends will have to work until he's age 70 because his old company was raided and his pension substantially decreased. The successor company treats their people like serfs, and is very quick to remind those they kept that they're lucky to have a job.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#1 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#3 I Feel Old

one of the major victims of the triple-A ratings on (toxic) securitized mortgages/loans were pension funds that were limited to only investing in "safe investments" (claims that it took 30% on funds and trillions in fund shortfall) over $27T total was done 2001-2008 ...
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Top executives are manipulating pension plans to juice the bottom line for and their bonuses ... as referenced in prevous post regarding Welch & GE Capital.

But there is much long litney chronicled ... some IBM specific:
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
from this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Retirement-Heist-Companies-American-ebook/dp/B003QMLC6K/
posts mentioning Gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/

wallstreet and public employee pension funds

Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job

private-equity are buying companies and looting the victim companies (including pension plans) posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

but they also are then selling "high-yield" (junk) bonds to public employee pension funds (aka, industry got such bad rep ing S&L crisis, that they changed their name to "private-equity" and junk bonds became high-yield bonds).

long, ongoing litney involving calpers (but cal. isn't the only one, just one of the largest)
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/01/6524138/former-calpers-ceo-buenrostro.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/former-calpers-ceo-pleads-guilty-bribery-fraud-including-taking-cash-paper-bags.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/orange-county-register-attacks-lack-public-pension-fund-transparency-cites-suit-calpers.html
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2506775-to-calpers-go-small-and-go-young-or-get-out
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/first-calpers-now-texas-teachers-cut-hedge-fund-exposure
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/gretchen-morgenson-damage-private-equity-secrecy-mention-calpers-suit.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/private-equity-consultants-flounder-question-abusive-evergreen-fees-calpers-board-meeting.html
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2688805-is-calpers-a-canary-in-the-coal-mine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/investors-like-calpers-and-new-york-city-in-the-dark-about-private-equity-fees.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/06/top-private-equity-reporter-calpers-is-either-lying-or-has-a-massive-breakdown-in-financial-controls.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/sacramento-bee-reports-on-calpers-fee-lapses.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/california-state-treasurer-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-reporting-lapse-after-nc-readers-press-him.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/leading-pension-consultant-pca-shills-for-private-equity-firms-in-calperscalstrs-carry-fee-row.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/senior-private-equity-officers-at-calpers-do-not-understand-how-the-general-partners-make-money.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/fortunes-dan-primack-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-scandal-calls-head-of-private-equity-factually-wrong.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/financial-times-joins-the-party-on-calpers-and-links-to-naked-capitalism.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/wsjs-carried-interest-comic-strip-mocks-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/how-calpers-consultant-pension-consulting-alliance-is-more-loyal-to-private-equity-than-its-clients.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/california-readers-catch-on-kpfa-this-friday-at-730-am-discussing-calpers-and-calstrs.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/mission-impossible-star-alec-baldwin-retweets-yves-post-on-calpers-capture-by-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/the-larger-implications-of-calpers-staff-and-board-incompetence-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-staff-and-board-for-misconduct.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-state-chief-investment-officer-tells-calpers-and-calstrs-to-fire-consultant-pca-over-proposed-fix-for-poor-private-equityperformance.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-calpers-officers-propose-lower-investment-targets-wsj-2015-10
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/after-nc-media-coverage-of-calpers-and-calstrs-private-equity-fee-lapses-treasurer-john-chiang-calls-for-legislation.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/oxford-professor-schools-calpers-contrary-to-board-presentation-private-equity-is-most-expensive-asset-class-by-far.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/the-bigger-significance-of-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-release-another-nail-in-the-carried-interest-tax-loophole-coffin.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/harvard-professor-josh-lerner-gives-weak-and-internally-contradictory-plug-for-private-equity-at-calpers-workshop.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-discuss-private-equity-calpers-and-its-tainted-counsel-on-harry-shearers-le-show-this-sunday.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/more-on-how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-for-betrayal-of-trust-in-hiring-scandal-ridden-fiduciary-counsel.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-violated-california-open-meeting-laws-to-stifle-private-equity-skeptics.html
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/corruption-again-calpers-keeping-lobbying-records-secret-from-its-board-members/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-fails-to-use-its-leverage-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/san-diego-union-tribune-editorial-attacks-calpers-over-half-hearted-plan-to-lower-return-targets.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/our-bloomberg-op-ed-on-calpers-plan-to-get-rid-of-private-equity-risk-by-ignoring-it.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-won-a-fight-against-calpers-over-its-plan-to-ignore-private-equity-risk.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/the-twelve-days-of-calpers.html

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"Too Big To Fail"

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Too Big To Fail
Date: 04 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
VP (former replacement CIA director) ... claims no knowledge of such activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

and another presides over the economic mess last decade, 70 times larger than S&L crisis ... and his secretary of treasury had previously been the CEO of one of wallstreet's largest investment banks

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, I was asked to try and help prevent the coming economic mess by looking at improving the integrity of supporting documents as countermeasures. Then lenders were securitizing loans&mortgages and paying for triple-A ratings. Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans. Being able to pay for triple-A eliminated any reason for loan originators to care about loan quality, they could sell off (all loans as fast as they could be made) to customers restricted to dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds), largely enabling over $27T done 2001-2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Initially paying for triple-A rating on securitized mortgages, eliminated any reason to care about loan/mortgage quality. Then they realize that they can securitize mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their victims and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for bad mortgages)

AIG is the largest holder of these CDS gambling bets and is negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar, when the US Sec. of Treasury steps in and forces them to sign that they can't sue those making the bets and take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of the payoffs is company formally headed by Sec. of Treasury

Congress had passed auto import quotas to reduce competition and provide domestic industry enormous profits that they use to completely remake themselves. Early 80s, Washington Post had article calling for 100% unearned profit tax on domestic industry because they were pocketing the money and continued business as usual. In 1990, the domestic auto industry had the C4 taskforce, looking at completely remaking themselves ... and because they were planning on heavily leveraging technology, they invited major tech companies to send reps. In the meetings, the industry could accurately describe what competition was doing right and how the domestic industry needed to respond. As shown when same Sec. of Treasury also used TARP funds for the domestic industry, all the entrenched vested interests continued business as usual (for well over 30yrs).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

From the law of unintended consequences, the biggest fines the too big to fail had to pay were for the robo-signing mills they set up to fabricate the supporting documents for all those no-document liar mortgages/loans ... too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

It didn't look like FEDs were going to do anything about the robo-signing mills, then several states were going to file criminal charges, including jail time; FEDs then takes over jurisdiction and fine the too big to fail (no jail time). Current estimate that too big to fail have been fined a total of $300B for criminal activity last decade, not just the mortgage mess (>$27T)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
and robo-signing mills, but also manipulating LIBOR, FOREX, and commodity markets as well as money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists, facilitating tax evasion and misc. other criminal activity. $300B sounds like a lot ... but is actually less than one percent of the total amounts involved (joke about it is now viewed as cost of their doing criminal business).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

Additional, TARP originally was supposedly to be used to buy off-book toxic assets ... but at only $700B appropriated it wouldn't have made a dent in the problem when just the four largest too big to fail were still carrying $5.2T toxic assets at the end of 2008 (TARP assets may never have been really intended for purchase of toxic assets). What really bailed the too big to fail was the tens of trillions in ZIRP funds from the Federal Reserve which the too big to fail were making something like $300B/year ... easily offsetting the total $300B that they've been fined since the financial mess.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:01:37 -0800
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#120 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#121 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#122 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#124 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#125 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#4 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

recommendation today in military group
http://www.amazon.com/Moscow-1941-City-Its-People-ebook/dp/B002UZ5J2W/

from above:
In 1941 close to one million Russian soldiers died defending Moscow from German invasionâ--more causalities than that of the United States and Britain during all of World War II. Many of these soldiers were in fact not soldiers at all, but instead ordinary people who took up arms to defend their city. Students dropped their books for guns; released prisoners exchanged their freedom for battle; and women fought alongside men on the bloody, mud-covered frozen road to Moscow. By the time the United States entered the war the Germans were already retreating and a decisive victory had been won for the Allies.

... snip ...

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25 Years: How the Web began

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 25 Years: How the Web began
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:25:43 -0800
Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes:
At the time I thought that Case did rather well. He managed to exchange over-hyped paper assets for a stock that paid real money dividends. I took it as a sign the Internet bubble was about to pop. I did NOT have the guts to short anything, but did keep buying dividend paying non-technology stocks.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#107 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#108 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#109 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#115 The Source, was: 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#117 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#118 25 Years: How the Web began

securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth area that turned out to be empty lots). In the 90s, I was asked to help prevent the coming economic mess by improving the integrity of supporting documents as countermeasure. They explained that the majority of the people involved in the S&L crisis and things like junk bonds had walked away clean and were then involved in internet IPO mills ... formula was invest a few millions, hype the IPO for a couple years and then get hundreds of millions (or billions) in the IPO. It helped that the new companies would then fail, because it left the field open for the next round of IPOs. They were then predicted to next get into mortgages.

We had some direct experience ... during a financial standards meeting held in DC, we were asked to step out, there was somebody there to talk to us. He explained that he was from a ethnic organization in NJ and some wallstreet investment bankers had asked him to talk to us. They were expecting to clear $2B from upcoming internet IPO ... that involved some technology that were were actively critising ... they figured that our citicism would result in a 10% downside in the $2B they were expecting. He said it wasn't personal, it was purely business (seen various references that investment bankers are dominated by sociopaths).

Of course the mortgage lenders figure out that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A rating (when all knew they weren't worth triple-A, from testimony in Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that the rating agencies played). Triple-A rating trumps supporting documents and they can start doing no-documentation, liar loans. posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Originally triple-A rating just met they no longer had to care about borrowers qualification or loan quality ... but then they figure out they can do securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their victims and take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for bad mortgages).

AIG was the largest holder of these CDS gambling bets and was negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar, when the US Sec. of Treasury steps in, forces them to sign document that they can't sue those making the bets and take TARP funds to pay off at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG, and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the investment bank formally headed by the Sec. of Treasury.

From the law of unintended consequences, the no-documentation, liar loans result in the too big to fail later setting up the robo-signing mills to fabricate the documents. Several states were working up to filling criminal charges against the too big to fail for the robo-signing mills (including jail time), when FEDs take over jurisdiction and settle with huge fines (but no jail time). The fines are turned over to organization that is suppose to use the money to help the victims of fraudulent foreclosures. However, little of the money actually reach the victims (turns out the organizations were setup by some of those previously involved in the economic mess).

Estimate is the too big to fail have been fined a total of $300B since the economic mess (but no jailtime). However, this isn't just for the bad loans and robo-signing mills, but also a load of other illegal activity last decade, manipulating LIBOR, FOREX, the commodity markets, money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists, facilitating hundreds of billions in tax evasion and other criminal activities (joke is that the $300B is so small compared to the total amounts involved, that it is just viewed as the cost of doing criminal business). past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

this policy is called "deferred prosecution", but has given rise to too big to fail also being referred to as too big to prosecute and too big to jail. "Deferred prosecution" normally described something like probation ... charges dropped if the company is clean for several years. However, there are numerous instances of same company committing same crimes, year after year in voilation of previous "deferred prosecution" settlements ... and nothing happening (except more nominal sized fines, much smaller than the money that they still walk away with). some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#80 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#23 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#37 LIBOR: History's Largest Financial Crime that the WSJ and NYT Would Like You to Forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#61 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#31 Talk of Criminally Prosecuting Corporations Up, Actual Prosecutions Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#47 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess

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25 Years: How the Web began

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 25 Years: How the Web began
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:34:40 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
From the law of unintended consequences, the no-documentation, liar loans result in the too big to fail later setting up the robo-signing mills to fabricate the documents. Several states were working up to filling criminal charges against the too big to fail for the robo-signing mills (including jail time), when FEDs take over jurisdiction and settle with huge fines (but no jail time). The fines are turned over to organization that is suppose to use the money to help the victims of fraudulent foreclosures. However, little of the money actually reach the victims (turns out the organizations were setup by some of those previously involved in the economic mess).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began

people running these organizations, charged with distributing fines to victims of fraudulent mortgages&foreclosures ... included executives that were federal regulators last decade (and did nothing then).

trivia ... bloomberg tv just had business news flash saying jp morgan/chase settled (some) foreclosure/robo-signing case
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-jpmorgan-mortgages-idUSKBN0UJ1UX20160105

the original case had tens of billions in fines ... this appears to be with regard to additional fines for failing to conform with previous settlements.

old posts mentioning robo-signing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#10 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#8 Adult Supervision
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#13 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#68 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#55 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#12 Why Auditors Fail To Detect Frauds?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#7 Beyond the 10,000 Hour Rule
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#69 Can Open Source Ratings Break the Ratings Agency Oligopoly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#63 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#70 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#46 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#80 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#9 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#17 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#57 What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#58 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#46 Wells Fargo made up on-demand foreclosure papers plan: court filing charges
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#54 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#111 Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#0 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#16 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#21 Senate Democrats vs. the Middle Class; Senators elected in 2008 made Obama's agenda possible, and its results have harmed most Americans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#126 Wall Street's Revenge
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#131 Memo To WSJ: The CRomnibus Abomination Was Not "A Rare Bipartisan Success"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#48 The 17 Equations That Changed The Course Of History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#90 NY Judge Slams Wells Fargo For Forging Documents... And Why Nothing Will Change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#92 Ocwen's Servicing Meltdown Proves Failure of Obama's Mortgage Settlements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#20 $2 Billion City Of Tampa Pension Story Major Media Missed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#22 Two New Papers Say Big Finance Sectors Hurt Growth and Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#24 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#49 Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#53 Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#75 Hillary Remains Clueless About Regulation on the 28th Anniversary of the Keating Five Meeting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#88 How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#4 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#5 7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#18 Can we design machines to automate ethics?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#20 Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#28 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#34 43rd President
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#39 Poor People Caused The Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#40 Poor People Caused The Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#71 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#80 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#93 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#95 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#4 Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#27 Federal Subsidies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#25 After 6 Years Of QE, And A $4.5 Trillion Balance Sheet, St. Louis Fed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#56 The long, slow death of the rule of law in America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#65 Michael Hudson's New Book: Wall Street Parasites Have Devoured Their Hosts -- Your Retirement Plan and the U.S. Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#70 AIG freezes defined-benefit pension plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#73 Economists' Tribal Thinking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#81 Now the DOJ Admits They Got it Wrong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#4 Decimal point character and billions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#53 rationality

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1970--protesters seize computer center

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:50:25 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Havings roads (and airways) pay _all_ of their direct and indirect costs would make transportation far more efficient by more honestly allocating costs and resources. In essence, living in suburbia or especially exurbia would cost a lot more, and force people to move into higher density areas where transport can be more efficient.

However, if, say, gasoline were to cost $5/gallon, there would be massive riots in the U.S. (like there were in the 1970s). Americans think living in wide open spaces is an absolute natural right. They aren't gonna give up their split levels without a fight.


past posts that highway design is based on expected ton-miles lifetime expectancy (80kN equivalent single axle loads - ESAL) ... road wear&tear, maintenance and replace is all based on heavy truck 18wheeler use (light trucks and autos play no factor). In effect the majority of consumer and light vehicle taxes are to subsidize heavy trucking. If heavy trucking was taxed directly proportional to their associated costs, their taxes would enormously skyrocket ... and taxes for other vehicles would be slashed (not as much as no tax for off-road vehicles ... but getting close). Of course, if heavy trucking paid their full, fair share, they might want to start demanding highway priorities.

that is separate from cheap gas enabling all sort of life-style choices.

past ESAL road design posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#41 Transportation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#21 Spam Bomb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#57 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#20 Parallel programming again (Re: Intel announces "CT" aka
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#7 OT Global warming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#44 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#2 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#5 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#6 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#7 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#10 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#12 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#15 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#19 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#24 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#26 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#32 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#35 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#46 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#48 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#49 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#50 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#51 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#52 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#53 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#54 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#1 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#2 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#3 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#5 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#6 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#11 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#23 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#97 Loads Weighing Heavily on Roads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#21 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#55 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#56 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#48 fraying infrastructure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#68 Historian predicts the end of 'science superpowers'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#25 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#36 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#37 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#41 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#55 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#40 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#61 Idiotic cars driving themselves
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#52 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#80 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#83 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#48 What Makes a bridge Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#28 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#29 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#168 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#47 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 10:53:04 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
If the transportation costs of trucking is increased, then the costs of goods and services trucked in will increase. It may be more "efficent" for locals to pay for the maintenance of roads.

More efficient transportion supposedly supports (supposedly) more efficient large corporate food production. One way of characterizing/profiling efficiency is by costs, various kinds of tax subsidies distort costs ... and therefor distorts perception of efficiency.

Related arguments are about real costs/measures of all kinds of legislation, there can be claims made justifying various kinds of legislation (including taxes) ... but rarely is there any effort to substantiate the claims (especially if there is actually totally different motivation).

trivial example is national disaster flood insurance ... claim is that at least half of the national disaster flood insurance is paid to the same people along the mississippi, year after year (effectively a federal economic subsidy for those people). In the early 80s, congress passed a law that those people get paid one more time to move off of the designated flood plains, but it was illegal to keep paying the same people to rebuild on the same flood plains, year after year. several recent articles about how that law was never enforced ... people continually getting to rebuild on the same flood plains. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#41 Where do the filesystem and RAID system belong?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#42 Where do the filesystem and RAID system belong?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#67 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#41 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#18 other days around me
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#48 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#27 Federal Subsidies

another example is fed. government started offering (nearly free) irrigation water for rice growers in otherwise semi-arid regions. The real cost of growing rice in semi-arid region is much higher than in traditional rice growing environments ... but the fed. governement water subsidy totally distorted those costs. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#15 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#41 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#19 The Return of Ada
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#80 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan

one of the arguments for flat tax was that (distorted) taxes can result in less efficient, non-optimal business decisions/choices.

I've periodically referenced roundtable broadcast at national economist meeting a few years ago. That current federal tax code costs 5-6% of GDP. Going to (simplified) flat tax gains 2-3% GDP in (wasted) time people spend dealing with the tax code and 2-3% GDP in people making more optimal business decisions (there is intense lobbying tax preparers & related organizations against any simplification of tax code). past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#13 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#39 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#88 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#14 Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#74 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#20 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#20 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#80 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#4 The men who crashed the world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#14 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#70 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#87 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#81 Ireland feels the heat from Apple tax row
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#86 How Wall Street Defanged Dodd-Frank
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#80 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#30 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#33 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#57 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#14 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#3 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#1 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#133 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#52 Report: Tax Evasion, Avoidance Costs United States $100 Billion A Year
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#48 These are the companies abandoning the U.S. to dodge taxes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#80 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#96 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#10 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#13 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:01:05 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Yes, they do. In NYC, around 1890, newly arrived immigrants were jammed into slums. Disease and crime were rampant. The city's leaders recognized that those problems would impact the labor supply they were dependent upon, and also spread into their own communities. So, they invested their money in various programs to mitigate slum problems. A key one was building a subway system to provide cheap transportation, so the slum dwellers could move out into better housing.

currently reading "The Comanche Empire" ... that came into being in the 16&17 hundreds with the introduction of horses & iron instruments ... which enabled large nomadic culture all across the mid-west based on economics of buffalo hunting. Part of their expansion was that their nomandic culture was more resistant to the smallpox epidemics that killed off many of the other natives ... and allowed the Comanche Empire to easily expand into their territories.

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Dilbert ... oh, you must work for IBM

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Dilbert ... oh, you must work for IBM
Date: 06 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
Dilbert ... oh, you must work for IBM

There was folklore that at least well into the 80s, there was group in Armonk that was responsible for turning foils into professional flipcharts for presentations to Armonk executives.

long ago and far away, we would make customer calls on pacbell (including knowledge base joint study with pacbell) and the pacbell people said that Scott worked there (86-95) ... Dilbert first published 1989
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Adams

TSS/360 was the official system to use 360/67 virtual memory ... some of Melinda's history goes into a lot more detail ... can be found
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

TSS/360 at peak had somewhat like 1100 people ... at a time when cp67/cms had something like 11 people. Some amount of CP67/CMS was outgrowth of CTSS. At the univ I got to play with CP67/CMS and had to share weekend 360/67 time with the SE working on TSS/360. We both did a fortran program edit, compile and execute. TSS/360 running 3 simulatied users had worse performance, response, etc than CP67/CMS running 35 simulated users (doing same benchmark) ... this was before I had started doing a lot of my performance benchmarks, system rewrite, new algoritms, etc ... part of old SHARE presentation from the 60s:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

More than decade later, we had some issues with transition from 3272/3277 to 3274/3278. Turns out that TSO users didn't notice because they rarely had better than 1sec system response ... while lots of internal vm370/cms systems had quarter second system response. The issue was that 3272/3277 had added .086sec hardware response while 3274/3278 added a minimum of 1/3sec. hardware response. This was in period when studies were showing significant improved human productivity with quarter second or better response. At the time, I was doing vm370/cms systems with .11 which with 3272/3277 made .2sec human response (next best internal vm370/cms systems were around .2secs for similar workload and hardware configuration)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol

We complained to the 3274/3278 product administrator about how bad it made interactive computing .... eventually got a response that 3274/3278 wasn't designed for interactive computing.

MVT/MVS response problems weren't all TSO's fault ... part was pervasive use of multitrack search ... single I/O could take 1/3rd second (locking up channel, controller, switch & drive for the whole duration).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

SJR for a time had MVS/168 and VM/158 with all 3330 strings fully interconnected but with strict rules that MVS 3330 packs could not be mounted on VM-strings (because of disastrous effects of multitask searches). One day it accidentally happened and datacenter almost immediately started getting irate calls about CMS response from all over the building. Initially, operations said they wouldn't move it in till 2nd shift. We then brought up a single pack VS1 system running (under on vm158) on MVS-string ... bringing the MVS/168 to its knees ... and CMS response returned to normal (even running virtual VS1). The MVS group then surrendered and moved their pack if we take down the virtual VS1.

Note that there was several problems with 3274/3278 .... compared to 3272/3277 ... they moved a lot of electronics out of the 3278 back to the controller ... to cut the cost of 3278 manufacturing. The 3274 already had a slow processor ... but it was given a lot of additional duties that it had to do for all terminals (previously done by 3277 terminal) ... further slowing done terminal response. The load on (direct channel connected) 3274 controller also significantly drove/increased channel busy connections for each operations ... impacting overall system throughput (in a period where it was common to spread both disks & 3274 on 15 block-mux channels.).

Moving lots of function back to the 3274 controller (also) drove up the protocol chatter (and latency) over coax-cable. Later a emulated 3277 terminal PC card had three times the upload/download throughput of a emulated 3278 terminal PC card.

In 1980, I did a project for STL datacenter where they moved 300 people from the IMS group to offsite bldg. They had tried remote 3270s and found them to have horrible human factors (after being use to vm/370 local channel attached 3270s). I did support for non-IBM channel extender putting all the 3274 controllers at remote bldg. .... with no perceived loss of response. The non-IBM channel extender was extraordinarily more channel efficient than 3274s and as a result overall system throughput increased 10-15%
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

Trivia: somewhat as result (lot of details in between), in 1988 I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff that they had ... which quickly morphs into fibre-channel standard. Later some POK channel engineers get involved and define a heavy-weight protocol that enormously cuts throughput (compared to native throughput) that is eventually released as FICON (only official peak I/O thruput numbers I've seen is for z196 that used 104 FICONs to get 2M IOPS ... at a time when there was a single fibre-channel announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over 1M IOPS ... two such fibre-channel have higher throughput than 104 FICON running over 104 fibre-channel)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

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1970--protesters seize computer center

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:52:19 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
If you truly believe that life is better without a criminal gang running things for the benefit of it's population then move to Somalia and see how well you can live.

how 'bout criminal organizations running things for their own benefit.

first occurance of too big to prosecute and too big to jail being applied to too big to fail ... was when they were found to be money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists ... and just got their hands slaped and asked to please stop doing it (but they didn't). The claim is that the money laundering is directly responsible (providing them with enormous amounts of cash) for them having loads of military-grade weapons, violance and murders on both sides of the mexican/us boarder, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

of course the too big to fail criminal activity isn't limited to "money laundering" ... but includes massive activities manipulating LIBOR, FOREX, commodity markets, the triple-A ratings used for securitized mortgages/loans, robo-signing mills, facilitating enormous amonts of tax evasion, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

then you can wander into the military-industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military-induxtrial-complex
drumming up excuses for continuous armed military conflicts as a way of keep funds flowing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

recent conflicts last decades where in part justified on the claim that it would only cost $50B ... current estimates that it will hit $5T-$6T ... when long-term veterans benefits and medical care is taken into account. One of the issues now is that MICC is lobbying to significantly cut veterans medical care because it may impact (new) funds that would flow into their pockets.

When director of CIA won't agree to "Team B" Soviet analysis justifying huge increase in military spending, he is replaced by somebody that would (who later becomes VP and then President)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

Rumsfeld white house chief of staff (74-75), after replacing CIA director, he becomes SECDEF (75-77), and replaced by one of his staffers, Dick Cheney. He is again SECDEF 2001-2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld

When Rumsfeld was white house chief of staff 74-75, Cheney was on his staff. Cheney then becomes white house chief of staff when Rumsfeld becomes SECDEF. Cheney is then SECDEF from 89-93 and VP 2001-2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney
another "Team B"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
He is a leading neoconservative.[4] As Deputy Secretary of Defense, he was "a major architect of President Bush's Iraq policy and ... its most hawkish advocate."[5] In fact, "the Bush Doctrine was largely [his] handiwork".

... snip ...

Team B was also involved in supplying Saddam with weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

team b posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

series from fall 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
Reached recently, Mr. Duelfer agreed that the weapons were still a menace, but said the report strove to make it clear that they were not "a secret cache of weapons of mass destruction."

"What I was trying to convey is that these were not militarily significant because they not used as W.M.D.," he said. "It wasn't that they weren't dangerous."


... and ...
The publicly released information also skirted the fact that most of the chemical artillery shells were traceable to the West, some tied to the United States.

These shells, which the American military calls M110s, had been developed decades ago in the United States. Roughly two feet long and weighing more than 90 pounds, each is an aerodynamic steel vessel with a burster tube in its center


... snip ...

part of the issue is by destroying the government ... any responsible control over these decommissioned weapons was lost (as well as more recent consequences)
The reporter "not military significant" quote was by: "The group, led by Charles A. Duelfer, a former United Nations official working for the Central Intelligence Agency,"

one of the documents referenced by Oct2014 article (dated 1996) "Iraq's Disclosed of Chemical Weapons Findings to U.N."
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/iraqs-disclosure-of-chemical-weapons-findings-to-un.html

last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been decommissioned. She wrote a book about then getting locked up in Texas military hospital when she tried to take it public. EXTREME PREJUDICE-- The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

also last decade there was massive upswing in out-sourcing gov. functions to for-profit, private contractors (enabling them to loot massive amounts overseas)

How Private Contractors Have Created a Shadow NSA; A new cybersecurity elite moves between government and private practice, taking state secrets with them (also references oil rig company that was transformed into one of the largest defense contractors after former SECDEF and future VP becomes CEO, including no-bid contracts in Iraq)
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-private-contractors-have-created-shadow-nsa/
above includes references to some of the events around the spreading Success Of Failure culture (make more money off series of failures)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
(note sometimes clicking govexec serves up a blank page and you have to repeat the click)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

and when the secretary of treasury helps the CEO of CITI to get the ball rolling to repeal Glass-Steagall and then resigns to join CITI, he is replaced by one of his protegees ... who also shows up here ... is Harvard responsible for the rise of Putin?:

John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html
How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to scandal and disgrace.
http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html
Russian Military Politics and Russia's 2010 Defense Doctrine
https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=1050

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1970--protesters seize computer center

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:55:25 -0800
hancock4 writes:
That was discovered during the Depression. A work project would attract thousands of applicants. But many hired were unable to do arduous physical labor. Some were too weak from malnourishment, and thus trapped in a viscious circle. They were too weak to work to get money for food, and without food they weren't able to work. Others were former white collar workers who weren't used to hard physical labor.

When WW II came along, initially, a lot of draftees were rejected as being in poor physical condition, thanks to being raised on poor nutrition from the Depression.


there are sporadic current reports about lead in detroit water and the disastrous effects on the children extending for the rest of their life ... as well as officials at many levels originally denigrating the person that initially reported the problem

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1970--protesters seize computer center

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:58:39 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Why don't I ever hear the argument that a flat tax would promote creation of new business? anyone trying to start out is up to his/her ears in paperwork w.r.t. business and employment taxes, fees, and regulations.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#13 1970--protesters seize computer center

part of it is included in the 2-3% loss in GDP because of overhead dealing with the current complexity

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Fibre Chanel Vs FICON

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Fibre Chanel Vs FICON
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Jan 2016 10:39:45 -0800
R.Skorupka@BREMULTIBANK.COM.PL (R.S.) writes:
BTW: in the very old days of FC it could be possible to have copper links. Copper fibre channel. :-)

In part because I worked on various kind of serial & channel extender stuff starting in 1980
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

in 1988, I got asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they had ... which quickly morphs into fibre-channel standard.

Later Hursely did something similar with serial copper (dual-simplex, concurrent 10mbyte/sec in both directions) ... released as 9333 ... including encapsulated SCSI commands. We had been big backer of 9333 and used them in our IBM HA/CMP product, but I wanted it to morph so that it would interoperate with fibre-channel standard ... but instead it morphs into (dual-simplex, initially concurrent 20mbyte/sec in both directions) proprietary SSA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Storage_Architecture

other trivial ... I had also got sucked into standardization for (parallel copper) HiPPI (sort of standards version of Cray channel started by LANL)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPPI

which tried to compete with fibre-channel standard by also doing a serial fiber version of HIPPI.

and finally there was the serial fiber standards work for SCI ... started by Stanford SLAC. old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#email920624

SCI had definitions for use as processor memory in large multiprocessor complex ... but also something more similar to encapsulated SCSI (analogous to SSA and fibre-channel). The SCI definition for processor memory was used by a number of vendors for building efficient 128-way and 256-way multiprocesser systems in the 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Coherent_Interface
part of the evolution into infiniband
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand

As I've mentioned before, the most recent peak I/O benchmark published by IBM was z196 that got 2M IOPS using 104 FICON (running over 104 fibre-channel) at about the same time that a fibre-channel was announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over 1M ("native") IOPS (for single fibre-channel).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

past posts mentioning in 9333:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 SSA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#15 tcp/ip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#12 Small IBM shops
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#18 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#69 Block oriented I/O over IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#11 Climate, US, Japan & supers query
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#15 Unisys A11 worth keeping?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#54 An entirely new proprietary hardware strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#29 FW: Is FICON good enough, or is it the only choice we get?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#50 something like a CTC on a PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#35 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#46 IBM's mini computers--lack thereof
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#55 54 Processors?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#46 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#47 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#20 cluster-in-a-rack
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#62 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#43 Barbless
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#52 Serial vs. Parallel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#49 big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#32 Mainframe running 1,500 Linux servers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#31 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#44 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#63 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#61 IBM to announce new MF's this year
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#62 Article says mainframe most cost-efficient platform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#31 "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#46 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#13 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#69 ESCON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#77 ESCON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#80 360/20, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#2 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#22 Assembler vs. COBOL--processing time, space needed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#96 SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#99 SHARE Blog: News Flash: The Mainframe (Still) Isn't Dead

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Living With Fog and Friction: The Fallacy of Information Superiority

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Living With Fog and Friction: The Fallacy of Information Superiority
Date: 07 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
Living With Fog and Friction: The Fallacy of Information Superiority
http://warontherocks.com/2016/01/living-with-fog-and-friction-the-fallacy-of-information-superiority/

long ago and far away, we were brought in as consultants to small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this stuff call "SSL" that they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". I had absolute authority on the interface between the server and the payment networks, but could only recommend on the interface between the server and the clients (some of which were almost immediately violated which account for some number exploits that continue to this day).

part of doing the interface with payment networks was a catalog of fault and security issues ... including 1) something breaks or stops working and how to fix or compensate, 2) results aren't as expected and how to fence the problem and proceed in different ways (regardless of the source of the problem). I frequently pontificated that it takes 4-10 effort to take a well-tested "application" and turn it into a "service" (in part because "application" process tends to be purely straight-line, and fails to account for multitude of other issues).

trivia ... I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM (I believe we had similar perspective on many issues)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

for something a little lighter, novel by actor that plays "House" on TV ... with references to Boyd and OODA-loop
http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Seller-Hugh-Laurie/dp/B000SEGK0M/

although he does go into some detail about the lengths the Military-Industrial-Complex will go to to preserve the flow of funds

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How Corrupt Is the American Government

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: How Corrupt Is the American Government
Date: 07 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
How Corrupt Is the American Government
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/01/corrupt-american-government.html

Lots of the institutional financial related stuff for instance, NYFED had auditors on-site at Lehman for months (when Geithner was head of NYFED). Much earlier we were brought into NYFED to help figure out how to implement qualitative section that they had added to BASEL-2 draft (was gutted by US institutions during review process)

posts mentionng basel-2 qualitative:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#41 An Understanding Database Theory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#23 More on garbage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#26 Dangerous Hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#22 AOS: The next big thing in data storage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#0 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#71 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#78 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#15 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#39 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#9 Do you believe a global financial regulation is possible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#4 Basel Committee outlines plans to strengthen Basel II
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#46 What's your personal confidence level concerning financial market recovery?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#70 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#53 Productivity And Bubbles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#68 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#70 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#12 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#65 Why (my, all) financial systems fail -- information complexity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#21 Zombie Banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#86 A Little More on the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#66 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud

posts mentioning Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#12 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#36 Lehman sees banks, others writing down $400 bln
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#57 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#59 Credit crisis could cost nearly $1 trillion, IMF predicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#1 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#41 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#0 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#12 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#14 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#15 Financial Crisis - the result of uncontrolled Innovation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#18 Once the dust settles, do you think Milton Friedman's economic theories will be laid to rest
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#26 SOX (Sarbanes-Oxley Act), is this really followed and worthful considering current Financial Crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#27 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#28 Does anyone get the idea that those responsible for containing this finanical crisis are doing too much?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#31 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#34 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#35 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#37 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#39 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#42 The human plague
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#51 Why are some banks failing, and others aren't?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#52 Why is sub-prime crisis of America called the sub-prime crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#62 Would anyone like to draw a diagram of effects or similar for the current "credit crisis"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#65 Can the financial meltdown be used to motivate sustainable development in order to achieve sustainable growth and desired sustainability?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#75 In light of the recent financial crisis, did Sarbanes-Oxley fail to work?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#78 Who murdered the financial system?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#80 Can we blame one person for the financial meltdown?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#82 Greenspan testimony and securization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#8 Global Melt Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#47 In Modeling Risk, the Human Factor Was Left Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#60 Did sub-prime cause the financial mess we are in?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#70 Is there any technology that we are severely lacking in the Financial industry?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#77 Tell me why the taxpayer should be saving GM and Chrysler (and Ford) managers & shareholders at this stage of the game?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#19 Collateralized debt obligations (CDOs)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#9 Blind-sided, again. Why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#23 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#35 Is American capitalism and greed to blame for our financial troubles in the US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#55 Is this the story behind the crunchy credit stuff?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#59 Garbage in, garbage out trampled by Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#14 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#42 Lets play Blame Game...?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#52 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#63 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#80 Are reckless risks a natural fallout of "excessive" executive compensation ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#23 BarCampBank - informal finance rantathon in London
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#30 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#37 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#52 What has the Global Financial Crisis taught the Nations, it's Governments and Decision Makers, and how should they apply that knowledge to manage risks differently in the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#73 What can we learn from the meltdown?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#79 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#46 Bernanke Says Regulators Must Protect Against Systemic Risks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#75 Whistleblowing and reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#8 The background reasons of Credit Crunch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#53 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#70 When did "client server" become part of the language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#31 OODA-loop obfuscation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#34 Board Visibility Into The Business
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#52 Future of Financial Mathematics?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#3 Consumer Credit Crunch and Banking Writeoffs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#10 China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#36 Analysing risk, especially credit risk in Banks, which was a major reason for the current crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#49 IBM to Build Europe, Asia 'Smart Infrastructure'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#57 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#38 what is mortgage-backed securities?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#14 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#52 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#53 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#4 LPARs: More or Less?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#39 The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#46 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#24 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#31 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#40 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#66 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#25 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#31 Rome speaks to us. Their example can inspire us to avoid their fate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#33 The case against Lehman Brothers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#87 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#91 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#6 Adult Supervision
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#14 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#20 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#55 U.S. Needs a National Safety Board for Financial Crashes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#56 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#0 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#42 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#45 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#60 Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#29 Bank Holiday In Cyprus
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#40 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#81 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#2 Too-Big-To-Fail, Too-Big-To-Prosecute, Too-Big-To-Jail, not just a problem in the USA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#22 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#29 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#36 Fed proposes annual assessments for large financial companies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#36 Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#38 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#43 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#48 Ex-Wall Street chieftains living large in post-meltdown world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#52 Lehman Brothers collapse: was capitalism to blame?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#57 What the Orgy of "Lehman Five Years On" Stories Missed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#58 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#1 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#14 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#25 After 6 Years Of QE, And A $4.5 Trillion Balance Sheet, St. Louis Fed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#28 Miniskirts and mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#56 The long, slow death of the rule of law in America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#25 Hillary Clinton's Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#47 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#60 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#7 I Feel Old

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 10:13:00 -0800
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
Direct tax is 27%, soon 25% on both business and earned income up to a level of around $60k with a deduction of around $15k, plus 14.2% health&pension contributions. Comparing with the US we get a very reasonable deal from this latter one. And the resulting ~39% tax is also comparable with the US.

one of the claims about congress being the most corrupt institution on earth is taking money for tax loopholes ... that creates enormous gap between the tax rate and the effective tax

GAO: U.S. corporations pay average effective tax rate of 12.6%
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/01/news/economy/corporate-tax-rate/

that has also reduced the percentage of what corporations contribute to total taxes collected
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/background/numbers/revenue.cfm
Revenue from the corporate income tax fell from between 5 and 6 percent of GDP in the early 1950s to 1.3 percent of GDP in 2010.

...

the above graph actually skews things for corporations since payroll taxes are included. In theory payroll taxes are what is being paid into pension funds for worker retirment ... but by cooking the books, it has been turned into funds for current operations (pension reserves for retirement disappear). If you just compare individual/corporate split ... then individual/corporate split was about 65/35 in 1950 changed to 80/20 in 2010. Part of the current problem is that congress had been looting the SS Trust Fund for day-to-day operation during the period when the baby boom workers were paying in much more than needed to pay out for the much smaller previous generation. As baby boomers move to retirement their pension reserves are non-existant.

the paying for loopholes goes along with shift in wealth going to the top 1% from the middle-class
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html

this goes along with the past discussion about many worker intensive industry cook the books to shift the economics from worker contributions to things that have been heavily computerized. Airlines shifted the profit from passenger flying to selling tickets, in negotiations with unions, they show that actually flying passengers is barely breakeven, while the parent company walks away with boat loads of money from the subsidiary that sells the tickets (even helps if the subsidiary selling the tickets is off-shore).

heavy equipment builders shifted from directly selling to buyers, to "wholesale" selling at cost to off-shore "distributor" (subsidiary) corporation, the off-shore "distributor" then makes the (profitable) retail sale to buyers ... and all the profit is booked in foreign country (the direct delivery of equipment from manufacturing plant to buyer didn't change).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

Auto industry cook the books, so that actual building and selling of autos appears to be a break even operation (major impact in union negotiations), but the parent company books nearly all profit from auto loans. skews the appearance of the business to excuses for making loans ... manufacturing appears to be secondary objective purely for the purpose of getting customers to take out loans. Last decade, the auto industry then jumped into the securitized mortgage market scheme ... and were packaging auto loans, paying for triple-A rating and selling to victims (even auto employee pension funds). With wallstreet help, they even started looking for bad auto loans, because wallstreet wanted securitized instruments designed to fail (with the triple-A rating they could sell off as fast as they could be created), where they then could take out CDS gambling bets, that they would fail. toxic CDO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

some past posts mentioning CDS gambling bets:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#63 One maths formula and the financial crash
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#12 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#45 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#46 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#7 Beyond the 10,000 Hour Rule
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#66 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#25 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#72 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#9 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#22 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#24 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#2 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#34 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#53 Retirement Savings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#62 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#95 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#3 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#106 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#13 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#14 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#29 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#31 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#32 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#33 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#73 The Watchdog that Didn't Bark ... Again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#99 US Debt In Public Hands Doubles Under Barack Obama
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#126 Wall Street's Revenge
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#131 Memo To WSJ: The CRomnibus Abomination Was Not "A Rare Bipartisan Success"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#157 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#158 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#48 The 17 Equations That Changed The Course Of History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#2 do you blame Harvard for Putin
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#20 $2 Billion City Of Tampa Pension Story Major Media Missed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#22 Two New Papers Say Big Finance Sectors Hurt Growth and Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#24 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#49 Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#53 Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#88 How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#4 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#5 7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#18 Can we design machines to automate ethics?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#20 Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#28 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#69 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#70 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#79 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#0 The WSJ and Barron's Apologists for the Banksters Peddle Wallison's Fables
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#34 43rd President
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#39 Poor People Caused The Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#54 In Dramatic Decision Judge Finds Fed Bailout Of AIG Was "Illegal", Government "Violated Federal Reserve Act"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#71 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#80 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#82 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#93 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#4 Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#16 Interactive Data Corp taps banks for sale or IPO -sources
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#27 Federal Subsidies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#25 After 6 Years Of QE, And A $4.5 Trillion Balance Sheet, St. Louis Fed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#49 seveneves
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#65 Michael Hudson's New Book: Wall Street Parasites Have Devoured Their Hosts -- Your Retirement Plan and the U.S. Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#70 AIG freezes defined-benefit pension plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#73 Economists' Tribal Thinking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#81 Now the DOJ Admits They Got it Wrong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#86 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#25 Hillary Clinton's Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#45 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#53 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#56 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#78 The Global Financial Crisis: Analysis and Policy Implications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#0 Repealing Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#6 Repealing Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#8 "Too Big To Fail"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began

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the legacy of Seymour Cray

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 10:34:15 -0800
Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes:
The Honeywell large systems (Level-66, DPS-8 etc.) solved this problem in a different way. The IO processor (IOM, IOP) had access to the page table, and would do the virtual to real translate itself. This was an obvious follow-on to the original GE-600 systems where user mode address were relocated by a simple base and bound, and IOM would do the same mapping as a CPU.

Nevertheless, having user mode programs build channel-programs seems like a poor design choice.


it was a trade-off from the real memory days of os/360 ... before virtual memory ... in much the same way that CKD was also real memory trade-off ... could use the channel to search for a record on disk, rather than needing to have some sort of resident index/table in real memory of locations.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

a couple POK engineers demonstrated virtual channel ... eliminating the need to build the (shadow) channel programs with real addresses that were the ones that really got executed.
http://www.google.com/patents/US3839706

one of the issues was the POK virtual channel just did the address translation assuming available page from the page table entry. There still was the problem of when the virtual page wasn't currently available ... it would require a whole lot of additional effort to make channels handle page fault conditions (and restart the operation when the page was brought in). With-out page fault (& restart) capability in the channel, the channel program would still have to be scanned to "fix" the associated virtual pages for the duration of the I/O. some recent ccwtrans posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#22 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#48 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#50 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#63 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#85 Old data storage or data base
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#47 Storage paradigm [was: RE: Data volumes]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#73 Storage paradigm [was: RE: Data volumes]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#47 Making mainframe technology hip again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#58 DASD, Tape and other peripherals attached to a Mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#18 A Brief History of Cloud Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#84 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#12 "hexadecimal"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#54 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#56 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#59 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#103 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#20 Do we really need 64-bit addresses or is 48-bit enough?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#40 OS/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#50 The joy of simplicity?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#24 the legacy of Seymour Cray
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#116 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

LPARs ... which is the standard way that nearly all IBM mainframes operate with today ... tracing back to adding LPAR support to 3090 in the late 80s ... in response to Amdahl's hypervisor support ... is a subset of virtual machine support ... with translated addresses ... but all the virtual addresses are mapped to real pages (LPARs aren't doing any kind of demand paging, total number of LPAR virtual pages doesn't exceed the number of real pages). some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#30 New IBM mainframe instructions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#29 5 Byte Device Addresses?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#47 nested LRU schemes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#70 Mainframe System 370
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#8 International Business Marionette
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#7 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#52 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#15 I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#68 Linear search vs. Binary search
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#36 The Subroutine Call
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#17 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#19 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#83 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#10 R.I.P. PDP-10?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#19 DG Nova 1200 as console
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#13 Question concerning running z/OS LPARs under z/VM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#35 Moving to the Cloud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#91 IBM 4341, introduced in 1979, was 26 times faster than the 360/30
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#112 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

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1976 vs. 2016?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:29:54 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
There's really important information on those bits of paper, ah well I suppose it will hasten them becoming irrelevant as fatal mistakes they might have prevented reduce the affected population.

we were invited into meeting (on digitized/online documents) in the (barely opened) new national archives bldg in college park. They had people in the bldg ... but there were all these shelves that were totally empty.

one of the people explained that the maryland delegation got a "directed appropriation" legislation thru congress that was a gift to maryland contractors ... directed appropriations is where congress tell agencies how to spend budget ... frequently without any additional funding. In this case, it took took several yrs nearly all available agency funds for the bldg ... funds that were suppose to preserve paper documents that were currently molding away in damp basements. large number of documents were lost to create that massively expensive bldg and subsidize maryland contractors.

one example contributing to congress considered the most corrupt instition on earth. congress also uses it to pump funds into military-industrial(-congressionaL) complex ... w/o it actually appearing in the DOD budget ... it is directed appropriation USAID where the funds can only be used to buy US military weapons.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

(long winded) past post mentioning college park (as well as many other things) & directed appropriations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand

one of the other gimmicks played is side-stepping laws requiring National Archives releasing presidential documents after fixed period (especially things that have the highest classification ... totally downright embarrassing, unrelated to national security). The Reagan papers were suppose to be made freely available the first part of the century ... but the then president had executive order preventing their release ... since they also covered activities of his (VP, later president) father (including US supplying Iraq with WMDs in the 80s) a couple past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#62 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#30 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#9 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services

misc. other posts mentioning "directed approprations"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#3 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#14 what does xp do when system is copying
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#34 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#57 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#43 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#50 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#51 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'? thoughts please
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#63 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#65 Thousands Of IBM Employees Got A Nasty Surprise Yesterday: Here's The Email They Saw
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#61 NYT: N.S.A. Chief Says Phone Logs Halted Terror Threats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#54 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#101 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#178 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#5 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#17 Why do we keep losing?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#29 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 ^A^K boy scouts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#34 43rd President
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#1 Jeb: George W. Bush is a top foreign policy adviser
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#76 Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its billions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#78 New hard drive
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields

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1976 vs. 2016?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:49:48 -0800
hancock4 writes:
I would say in 1975, most computing work--mini and mainframe--was still done in batch mode. If an office worker used a computer, they probably had printouts of greenbar paper, and blank forms to code data to be keypunched. On-line terminals were certainly coming, but would not explode until a few years later. That is, an office equipment scene in 1980 would be very different than 1975.

I've periodically commented about financial industry overnight batch settlement window. During the 70s, these financial dataprocessing applications started getting front-ended with online transactions (ATMs, point-of-sale terminals, bank teller, etc) ... but actual settlement was still left to the overnight batch window.

In the 90s, there were billions spent on (failed) attempts to convert to straight through processing ... settlement happened in real-time as part of the online transaction ... converting from (cobol batch) mainframe to large number of parallel "killer micros". The issue was the upswing in workload and increasing globalization shortening the window ... but breaking the overnight batch window.

Unfortunately they were usually using some standard parallelizing libraries ... where a number of us explained/warned had 100 times the overhead of cobol batch ... they ignored the warnings ... and went ahead to deployments that went down in flames (overhead totally swamped the expected throughput improvements with large numbers of "killer micros").

slightly related ... posts references celebrating former SJR co-worker ... credited with formalizing transaction definition ... enabling uptake in financial dataprocessing where aditors can better trust computer records.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#32 A Tribute to Jim Gray: Sometimes Nice Guys Do Finish First
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#36 A Tribute to Jim Gray: Sometimes Nice Guys Do Finish First
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#27 Father Of Financial Dataprocessing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#78 ATMs by the Numbers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#4 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#13 Is the ATM still the banking industry's single greatest innovation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#21 Mainframe Hall of Fame (MHOF)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#85 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#80 Which building at Berkeley?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#32 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#28 Some interesting post about the importance of Security and what it means for the Mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#24 Old data storage or data base
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#45 Why is the mainframe so expensive?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#2 Flat (VSAM or other) files still in use?

past posts mentioning overnight batch window
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#40 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#31 Quote from comp.object
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#15 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#36 Future of System/360 architecture?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#19 Distributed Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#21 Distributed Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#37 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#44 Distributed Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#61 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#19 Education ranking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#27 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#64 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#69 Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#72 whats the world going to do when all the baby boomers retire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#81 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#74 Too much change opens up financial fault lines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#30 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#31 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#73 Price of CPU seconds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#87 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#89 Berkeley researcher describes parallel path
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#55 performance of hardware dynamic scheduling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#50 Microsoft versus Digital Equipment Corporation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#56 Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#26 What is the biggest IT myth of all time?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#30 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technolgies?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#7 If you had a massively parallel computing architecture, what unsolved problem would you set out to solve?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#87 Cleaning Up Spaghetti Code vs. Getting Rid of It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#43 Business process re-engineering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#14 Legacy clearing threat to OTC derivatives warns State Street
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#55 Cobol hits 50 and keeps counting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#1 z/Journal Does it Again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#2 z/Journal Does it Again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#21 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#23 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#26 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#30 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#38 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#43 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX? (Are settlements a good argument for overnight batch COBOL ?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#57 IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#81 A Faster Way to the Cloud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#13 UK issues Turning apology (and about time, too)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#57 MasPar compiler and simulator
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#67 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#35 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#47 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#77 Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#16 How long for IBM System/360 architecture and its descendants?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#19 STEM crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#56 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#37 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#47 COBOL - no longer being taught - is a problem
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#78 Software that breaks computer hardware( was:IBM 029 service manual )
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#41 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#3 Assembler programs was Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#14 Age
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#13 Is the ATM still the banking industry's single greatest innovation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#37 A Bright Future for Big Iron?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#71 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#48 WikiLeaks' Wall Street Bombshell
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#19 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#42 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#35 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#15 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#19 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#91 Mainframe Fresher
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#93 Itanium at ISSCC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#32 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#5 Home prices may drop another 25%, Shiller predicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#8 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#25 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#52 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#15 Is the SEC Covering Up Wall Street Crimes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#70 New IBM Redbooks residency experience in Poughkeepsie, NY
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#71 Don't Dump the Volcker Rule Just Because It's Not Perfect
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#1 Banks Awash in Cash, Which Isn't Good News
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#10 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#23 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#9 John R. Opel, RIP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#79 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#8 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#12 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#49 No internet in 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#13 Study links ultrafast machine trading with risk of crash
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#25 Goldman Sachs P.R. Chief's Accidental Exit Interview
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#49 US payments system failing to meet the needs of the digital economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#0 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#24 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#69 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#19 X86 server
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#31 X86 server
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#47 I.B.M. Mainframe Evolves to Serve the Digital World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#18 System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#24 System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#42 Professor Coffee Hits a Nerve at SEC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#42 COBOL will outlive us all
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#57 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#50 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#30 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#42 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#49 Internet Mainframe Forums Considered Harmful
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#35 Why is the mainframe so expensive?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#80 "Death of the mainframe"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#29 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#81 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#83 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#22 US Federal Reserve pushes ahead with Faster Payments planning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#90 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#10 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#38 Meet Cobol's hard core fans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#76 This Was the Very First Website In the US
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#71 Decimation of the valuation of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#119 Holy Grail for parallel programming language
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#170 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#78 Is there an Inventory of the Inalled Mainframe Systems Worldwide
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#65 A New Performance Model ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#2 More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#112 Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

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1970--protesters seize computer center

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:22:40 -0800
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
So, ultimately, you equate "the welfare state" with gangsterism. I'm finding that hard to understand, given our current examples of Sweden, Denmark, etc. (high welfare) vs. the US (less welfare).

welfare is usually considered gov. handouts ... in the US, they have carefully controlled the definition of equating welfare to what kinds of gov. handouts .... frequent US press is misdirection and obfuscation away from the truely massive gov. handouts.

2001-2008, wallstreet did over $27T in (unsupervised) securitized loans and mortgages ... creating the financial mess last decade ... with lots of collateral damage (trillions disappearing into peoples' pockets).
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Major enabler was paying for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) ... which also enabled no-documentation, liar loans. From the law of unintended consequences, later the too big to fail have to set up the "robo-signing mills" to fabricate the missing documents. The too big to fail are then fined tens of billions in dollars ... funds that were supposed to be administered to aid the victims of these scams ... however very little of the funds make it through the operations setup to administer the fines/aid to the victims.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

Supposedly TARP is setup to help replenish the trillions in funds that "disappear" ... but with only $700B appropriations, it would barely make a dent. For the real bailout they use the Federal Reserve to provide tens of trillions in ZIRP funds ... with the too big to fail clearing $300B/year (as well as trillions to buy the off-book toxic assets).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#zirp

A rather modest drop in the corporate welfare bucket was that paying for triple-A rating enabled the industry to no longer care about borrowers' qualifications or loan quality. However, they then found that they could do securitized loans designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to (another class of) victims and take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for bad loans/mortgages). AIG was the largest holder of these CDS gambling bets and was negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar ... when the sec. of treasury steps in and forces them to sign a document that they can't sue those making the bets and also pay off at face-value. The largest recipient of TARP funds was AIG (which may have been the whole idea in the first place) and the largest recipient of face-value payoffs is the company previously headed by the sec. of trasury.
http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-welfare-statistics-vs-social-welfare-statistics/

GAO in the 90s was asked by congress to look at indirect corporate welfare ... specifically illegal aliens were being paid substandard wages by corporations ... and what it cost the gov. in social welfare programs to make up the difference (GAO then calculated approx. $10K/year/person). The interesting thing as I've been unable to find a more recent GAO report updating that data. They whole illegal alien issue has had a lot of obfuscation with all the corporate lobbying on the issue. old posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#81 illegal aliens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#61 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#70 Zakaria: Only China can save Europe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending

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1976 vs. 2016?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:59:21 -0800
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
A common alternative to timesharing was the service bureau, a company with its own computer that did data processing for other companies. My first job was programming in a small service bureau. In addition to programming staff we also had keypunchers to convert customers' documents into machine-reabable form, operators to run the machines and prepare the output (e.g. by bursting and binding reports), and delivery people to pick up documents from customers and return the results.

As undergraduate in the 60s, I was hired fulltime to be support for the univ. IBM mainframe systems ... then summer of '69, I was con'ed into going to Seattle as part of helping create Boeing Computer Services (corporate group in corporate hdqtrs off Boeing Field) ... to better monetize their significant dataprocessing investment (including offering dataprocessing services to non-Boeing entities).

There was a lot of internal political wrangling with the major boeing dataprocessing centers ... I thot Renton center was possibly largest in the country ... upwards of $300M (69 $$$s) in IBM equipment. Boeing "official" history says that BCS wasn't formed until the early 70s ... but the group to form BCS was created in spring of '69. They initially con'ed me into giving the group a one week, 40hr computer class during '69 spring break.

One of the people involved with CMS\APL at the cambridge science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

left and joined BCS in Washington DC ... and one of the things he worked on contract for USPS modeling/justifying postage rate increase (must have been for 10cents that went into effect 2Mar1974).

misc.BCS computerworld refs from the 80s:
https://books.google.com/books?id=a8FBzsfoBZEC&pg=PA69&dq=boeing+computer+services+computerworld&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilm7W5kqPKAhUCyGMKHdwtBWIQ6AEILjAC#v=onepage&q=boeing%20computer%20services%20computerworld&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=40ZfT7SWT64C&pg=PA50&dq=boeing+computer+services+computerworld&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilm7W5kqPKAhUCyGMKHdwtBWIQ6AEIPjAG#v=onepage&q=boeing%20computer%20services%20computerworld&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=tBXQZbbSyeQC&pg=RA1-PA66&dq=boeing+computer+services+computerworld&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilm7W5kqPKAhUCyGMKHdwtBWIQ6AEIRjAI#v=onepage&q=boeing%20computer%20services%20computerworld&f=false

It morphs into Boeing Information Services and sold to SAIC
https://fcw.com/Articles/1999/06/27/SAIC-to-leverage-Boeing-fed-work.aspx
Boeing IS was formed in 1994, evolving from a computer services group that had existed within Boeing since the 1970s. But the Seattle-based aircraft builder, looking to focus on its core competencies, decided late last year to shop Boeing IS around, Delaney said. SAIC heard that Boeing wanted to sell its subsidiary in January and responded immediately, Andrews said.

... snip ...

I would sponsor John Boyd's briefings at IBM ... and his biographies have him running spook base about the time I was at Boeing ... claiming it was a $2.5B (60s dollars) "windfall" for IBM (approx. ten times Renton). Boyd would claim it had the largest air conditioned bldg in that part of the world. Reference gone 404, but lives on at the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

Boyd references and Boyd related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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1976 vs. 2016?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:30:44 -0800
mausg writes:
AAFAIRemeember, the data company, called Digilog(I Think) was a airplane manafactures developement that was spun off.

DIALOG ... article lookup ... sort of like lexis/nexis but different. would go by and visit them periodically ... i have some vague recollection that the guy that ran it was relative of some famous rock star ... this URL redirected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_%28online_database%29

previous refs have gone 404, need to go to the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20050123104257/http://www.dialog.com/about/history/pioneers1.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20050123104318/http://www.dialog.com/about/history/pioneers2.pdf

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#33 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#46 The Alpha/IA64 Hybrid
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#0 Search for Joseph A. Fisher VLSI Publication (1981)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#61 10 choices that were critical to the Net's success
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#30 Empires and Imperialism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#60 3350 failures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#88 Continous Systems Modelling Package
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#24 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#44 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#46 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#55 Article says mainframe most cost-efficient platform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#47 Graph of total world disk space over time?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#39 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#90 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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1976 vs. 2016?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:41:28 -0800
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#24 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#25 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#27 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#28 1976 vs. 2016?

somewhat along the same lines ... M/D acquired TYMSHARE in 84
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

... also in silicon valley (like dialog) ... and would go by and periodically visit ... they were also regulars at the monthly baybunch user group meetings held at SLAC.

past posts mentioning virtual machine based commercial online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online

TYMSHARE also developed their own online computing system for ibm mainframe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS

I was brought in to audit/review GNOSIS as part of M/D purchase and GNOSIS spinoff to Key Logic.

past posts mentionin monthly baybunch meetings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#46 ... the need for a Museum of Computer Software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#35 VR vs. Portable Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#22 vmshare
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#64 CHROME and WEB apps on Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#27 CPU time/instruction table
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#12 New machine code
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#66 Computer History Museum
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#44 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#64 spool file tag data
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#12 user group meetings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#4 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#58 LPARs: More or Less?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#10 Need tool to zap core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#38 Need tool to zap core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#68 Entry point for a Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#76 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#74 z millicode: where does it reside?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#25 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#68 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#48 A brief history of CMS/XA, part 1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#73 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#75 Wylbur, Orvyl, Milton, CRBE/CRJE were all used (and sometimes liked) in the past
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#2 First Website Launched 20 Years Ago Today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#102 Question on PR/SM dispatcher
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#114 Start Interpretive Execution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#69 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#62 An approach to Dump formatting of Control Blocks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#38 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#46 A bit of IBM System 360 nostalgia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#63 Typeface (font) and city identity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#78 What are you experiences with Amdahl Computers and Plug-Compatibles?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#18 VM Workshop 2012
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#25 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#39 Just a quick link to a video by the National Research Council of Canada made in 1971 on computer technology for filmmaking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#40 GNOSIS & KeyKOS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#22 What is a Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#59 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#68 Linear search vs. Binary search
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#13 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#46 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#91 rebuild 1403 printer chain
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#17 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#44 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#88 Silicon Valley: an army of geeks and 'coders' shaping our future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#161 Slushware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#17 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#44 John Titor was right? IBM 5100
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#14 3033 & 3081 question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#91 IBM 4341, introduced in 1979, was 26 times faster than the 360/30

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I Feel Old

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:44:23 -0800
hancock4 writes:
This is nothing new. The US military was hamstrung by enormous purchasing regulations prior to WW II and was unable to build up. (Download the official Signal Corps history, volume 1 has a whole chapter on the incredible B/S they had to go through.)

Indeed, government procurement was a problem in the 1930s when FDR was trying to fight the Depression. FDR had to key assistants, Hopkins and Ickes. Hopkins wanted to spend money fast and furious to alleviate suffering and give people food, shelter, and something to do, and not worry about waste or fraud. Ickes, in contrast, was very fussy and would not spend a dime until everything was thoroughly discussed and checked out.


There is periodic stuff about DOD budget in general. in the 90s, congress passed legislation that all federal agencies had to pass regular financial audit ... so far DOD has been unable to. There was big press that Marines had passed one ... but it turned out it was a little premature ... found several things that they failed. There have been some claims that DOD might pass an financial audit in 2017 (two decades after the law passed) ... but recent references are casting doubt that is going to be possible.

one of the conspiracy stories is about a report concerning trillion dollars that had gone missing in DOD ... but in 9/11 ... the plane took out the accounting section and all that information went missing.

2002, congress let the financial responsibility act expire (spending couldn't exceed revenue)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAYGO
posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

by the middle of last decade, the savaging of any fiscal responsible budget by congress, the US comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for what they were doing to the budget, massive license to steal). posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

the first major bill after letting fiscal responsibility act expire was Medicare Part-D ... comptroller general would claim that it comes to be a long term $40T item (and gift to the drug industry). CBS 60mins did expose on what went on in congress ... and the 18 republican members of congress & staff that shepherded it through. At last minute, just before final vote, they insert a one liner that prevents competitive bidding and prevent distribution of CBO report detailing effects of the change. After bill passes, all 18 have resigned and on drug industry payroll. CBS shows drugs under part-D are three times as expensive as the identical drugs from VA (that allows competitive bidding). posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d

2010 there was CBO report that in the interval since letting act expire, tax revenue was reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T (for $12T budget gap compared to fiscal responsible budget).

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:37:36 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Just today the Phila Inqr reported on the breakup of duPont. They describe how the Koch Bros bought a unit and are milking it dry, not investing a dime in it, but taking the profits to promote anti-tax political candidates.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/homepage/20160112_Cuts_to_DuPont_s_research__business_draw_mixed_reactions.html

New owners of duPont do not want to invest anything in R&D.
http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/columnists/joseph-distefano&id=364586981

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-phillydeals/364799621.html


standard process for private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

there is "Smedley Butler"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
with "War Is a Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

but also (Prescott Bush):

Business Plot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
1934: The Plot Against America
http://harpers.org/blog/2007/07/1934-the-plot-against-america/
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Prescott Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

and

Father of Koch Brothers Helped Build Nazi Oil Refinery, Book Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/us/politics/father-of-koch-brothers-helped-build-nazi-oil-refinery-book-says.html
But the book is largely focused on the Koch family, stretching back to its involvement in the far-right John Birch Society and the political and business activities of the father, Fred C. Koch, who found some of his earliest business success overseas in the years leading up to World War II. One venture was a partnership with the American Nazi sympathizer William Rhodes Davis, who, according to Ms. Mayer, hired Mr. Koch to help build the third-largest oil refinery in the Third Reich, a critical industrial cog in Hitler's war machine.

... snip ...

June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the Waldorf-Astoria with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do business with the Nazis, Intrepid, loc1901-4:
One prominent figure at the German victory celebration was Torkild Rieber, of Texaco, whose tankers eluded the British blockade. The company had already been warned, at Roosevelt's instigation, about violations of the Neutrality Law. But Rieber had set up an elaborate scheme for shipping oil and petroleum products through neutral ports in South America. With the Germans now preparing to turn the English Channel into what Churchill thought would become "river of blood," other industrialists were eager to learn from Texaco how to do more business with Hitler.

... snip ...

VP (& former replacement CIA director) ... claims no knowledge of such activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

and another presides over the economic mess, 70 times larger than S&L crisis.

also Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job
more recent: Wall Street Fine Print: Retirees Want FBI Probe Of Pension Investment Deals
http://www.ibtimes.com/wall-street-fine-print-retirees-want-fbi-probe-pension-investment-deals-2250476

John Foster Dulles plays major role in rebuilding German's economy and military ... recent references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#35 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#45 The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#53 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#29 Eric Holder Returns as Hero to Law Firm That Lobbies for Big Banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#77 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#7 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#10 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#55 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#0 How Corporate America Invented Christian America; Inside one reverend's big business-backed 1940s crusade to make the country conservative again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#28 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

When 1943 Strategic Bombing Program was looking for plans and location of German military and industrial targets, they got the information from wallstreet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II

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I Feel Old

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 18:46:30 -0800
hancock4 writes:
In additional to Defense, which they can't spend enough on, Republicans are also big on public safety, such as more cops, more equipment for cops, and prisons.

there has been big upswing in militarizing the police force, giving all sort of "surplus" military gear to police departments ... so military can turn around and declare a shortage of military gear justifying new military procurements, recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#92 prices, was Western Union envisioned internet functionality

part of the enormous upswing in privatizing government especially last decade ... has been the privatizing of prisons ... and associated enormous corruption.

How Corrupt Is The US: An Extraordinary Example
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-12/how-corrupt-us-extraordinary-example

related theme

How Corrupt Is the American Government
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/01/corrupt-american-government.html

past posts mentioning private prisons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#37 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#43 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#61 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#82 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#34 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#25 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#74 prices, was Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#85 prices, was Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#27 OT: efforts to repeal strict public safety laws

recent posts mentioning congress considered the most corrupt institution on earth:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#70 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#87 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#81 Ireland feels the heat from Apple tax row
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#79 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#94 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#78 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#32 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#50 Broadband pricing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#81 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#1 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#48 These are the companies abandoning the U.S. to dodge taxes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#80 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#96 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#10 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#13 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#48 Protecting Social Security from the Thieves in the Night
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#22 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#24 1976 vs. 2016?

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IBM STRETCH repricing decision?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM STRETCH repricing decision?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:17:33 -0800
hancock4 writes:
System/370 got muddled because IBM was unsure of the future of various components, and was diverted with Future System. None the less, despite the setbacks, IBM generally did well with S/360 successor products. Sadly, IBM let itself get bloated and almost suffocated itself.

This end of ACS-360 also has some discussion of pricing & price/performance model ... including shutting down ACS-360 because executives thot that it would advance the state-of-the-art too fast and IBM would loose control of the market
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
Of the 26,000 IBM computer systems in use, 16,000 were S/360 models (that is, over 60%). [Fig. 1.311.2]

Of the general-purpose systems having the largest fraction of total installed value, the IBM S/360 Model 30 was ranked first with 12% (rising to 17% in 1969). The S/360 Model 40 was ranked second with 11% (rising to almost 15% in 1970). [Figs. 2.10.4 and 2.10.5]

Of the number of operations per second in use, the IBM S/360 Model 65 ranked first with 23%. The Univac 1108 ranked second with slightly over 14%, and the CDC 6600 ranked third with 10%. [Figs. 2.10.6 and 2.10.7]


... and
To achieve a profit for the ACS program, Amdahl asked IBM management to approve three ACS-360 models: the high-performance design, a 1/3 performance version, and a 1/9 performance version. He felt that these performance goals would be a good fit with the System 360 marketing plans. He remembers that IBM Corporate Marketing evaluated the targets and reported: "1) the supercomputer alone was a loss leader! 2) the supercomputer plus the 1/3 performance computer was break-even! And 3) the supercomputer plus both the 1/3 performance computer and the 1/9 performance computer was normal profit -- 30% pre-tax!"

... snip ...

it also has discussion of ACS-360 features that show up 20yrs later with es/9000.

this account by former IBM executive says that major motivation for "Future System" was trying to lock out "clone controllers"
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07

unfortunately during FS period, internal politics was shutting down 370 efforts ... and the lack of new 370 products during this period is credited with giving "clone processors" a market foothold.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

trivia ... as undergraduate I tried to do some stuff with 2702 terminal controller ... which it couldn't quite do. This was part of the motivation for the univ. to do a clone controller effort ... starting with Interdata/3 ... later morphed into a combination of Interdata/4 for the channel interface and cluster of Interdata/3s for line/port scanners. Interdata (later acquired by P/E) markets this as commerical product. Somewhere there is writeup that credits four of us for (some part of the) clone controller market.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:02:45 -0800
mausg writes:
If people people object to `hackers', I would enter a list of groups that started as `someidiotic name', then switched to a `SENSIBLE NAAME' as they became mainstream. Nope, cant remember where I saw that list.

old time group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hackers_Conference

cbs 60s mins wanted to do segment on the conferrence ... and there was 3month negotiations that they wouldn't portray it as the "bad guys" ... they were allowed to attend and do some filming and sunday night they open'ed with secret group in silicon valley plotting to take over the world. next year the conference tshirt that had spoof of cbs logo. loosing battle trying to stop popular press characterizing hackers as the bad guys. lots of us are grey beards now and there has been effort to invite younger generation.

for a time, I was the only IBMer (and now "former IBMer").

culture has changed too ... early days, people would bring unannounced products and people that were nominally competitors could play with each others products ... unheard of these days.

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the legacy of Seymour Cray

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:13:11 -0800
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
DOS channel programs weren't built dynamically. They were static parts ofhe DTF. OS programs didn't "carry code to build channel programs", in most cases they were built by OS transients at open.

os/360 with minimum real storage design point had 2kbyte transient area ... an open operation might have 6-12 transient routines sequentially executed. A nominally null 3-step job that did little or no execution, just the job scheduler and the open close operations ... could take more than 30secs elapsed time ... where each one of the open/close transient routines loaded sequentially one at a time ... for each file opened and then closed.

One of the performance boosts of things like CICS and other monitors would they mostly their own system ... making minimal use of the underlying os/360. they would start, acquire system resources, batch open all needed files, etc ... and then manage all of those resources internally ... scheduling tasks, memory management, etc. CICS task start/stop for transaction was exceedingly "light-weight" since they made minimal use of os/360.

past posts mentioning cics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics

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I Feel Old

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:20:07 -0800
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
And then the companies in charge of those trusts go bankrupt.

recent saga is ENRON. preventing regulation of CDS were originally billed as gift to ENRON. #2 on time's list of those responsible for economic mess:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

when head of CFTC proposed regulating CDS, quickly replaced by the senator's wife (who blocked regulating CDS), while the senator gets legislation preventing CDS regulation ... after which the wife resigns and joins ENRON board and the audit committee.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

Congress then bills Sarbanes-Oxley as preventing future ENRONs and guaranteeing executives (& auditors) would do jail time ... but it required SEC to do something
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley

possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even show they increased after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

then CDS grambling bets play a role in the economic mess ... initially paying for triple-A rating eliminated any reason to care about loan/mortgage quality. The triple-A rating also opens the market for toxic CDOs to large funds restricted to "safe" investments (like large retirement funds, claims that it resulting in 30% fall in the funds and shortfall of trillions for pension payouts) contributing to being able to do over $27T 2001-2008.
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Then they realize that they can securitize mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their victims and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for bad mortgages). Yesterday had latest announcement of billions in "deferred prosecution" fines for activities during the economic mess (trivial amounts compared to the tens of trillions that were involved).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_prosecution

These fines have being turned over to organizations created to help victims of the mortgage practices ... but huge amounts appear to be siphon off with little actually reaching the victims.

and on-going saga of calpers

Why is CalPERS Understating Its Cost of Investing in Private Equity by Roughly $1.6 Billion, Meaning 80%?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/01/why-is-calpers-understating-its-cost-of-investing-in-private-by-roughly-1-6-billion-meaning-80.html

after they got such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis, the industry changed its name to "private equity" (and junk bonds became "high-yield bonds") ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

it is like the joke why do crooks rob banks ... because that is where the money is ... similarly the large pension funds have large amounts of money and have been attractive target for all sorts looking at skimming&looting money (armed bank robbing is typically measured in thousands, wallstreet looting is measured in hundreds of billions and tens of trillions).

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I Feel Old

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:25:14 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
That I believe is the 'trust' part of the whole thing, if you're not going to manage it personally then you have to trust someone to do it. Trusts have been around for a long time, abuses are rare enough to make news.

wallstreet is somewhat conflicted ... large pension funds make very profitable targets ... like the multi-billion dollar triple-A rated toxic CDOs .. really big scores with either ignorant managers or those that could be bribed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

.... but the move to 401Ks was also pushed because individuals could be taken advantage of (401Ks sold as under your own control ... but extremely rare that individual beats professional manager) ... including not being able to negotiate better management fees .... move from large pension to individual 401Ks ... significantly increased fees per dollar managed .... possibly different factions on wallstreet looting retirement funds in different ways.

previous posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#1 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#3 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#7 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#22 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#30 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#31 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#32 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#36 I Feel Old

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 09:10:55 -0800
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
And so the United States was divided instead of united, less able to face the challenges of the Cold War.

lots of wallstreet and industrialists were actively supporting Hitler and Nazi Germany, Koch, Bush, John Foster Dulles, etc .... later John Foster Dulles ... instrumental in rebuilding Germany economy, industry, military, etc ... is quoted as saying he was doing it to oppose Russia.

Dulles aligned with Hjalmar Schacht, minister economics, Prescott Bush with Thyssen, etc. Lots of wallstreet and industrialists were at the June1940 victory celebration that the german ambassador threw at the waldorf-astoria (many looking at how to do business with the Nazis ... in violation of US law).

unrelated reference to Thyssen .... my wife's father was command of engineering combat group and I found his status reports at the national archives:
On 28 Apr we were put in D/S of the 13th Armd and 80th Inf Divs and G/S Corps Opns. The night of the 28-29 April we cross the DANUBE River and the next day we set-up our OP in SCHLOSS PUCHHOF (vic PUCHOFF); an extensive structure remarkable for the depth of its carpets, the height of its rooms, the profusion of its game, the superiority of its plumbing and the fact that it had been owned by the original financial backer of the NAZIS, Fritz Thyssen. Herr Thyssen was not at home.

Forward from the DANUBE the enemy had been very active, and an intact bridge was never seen except by air reconnaissance. Maintenance of roads and bypasses went on and 29 April we began constructing 835' of M-2 Tdwy Br, plus a plank road approach over the ISAR River at PLATTLING. Construction was completed at 1900 on the 30th. For the month of April we had suffered no casualties of any kind and Die Gotterdamerung was falling, the last days of the once mighty WHERMACHT.


... snip ...

this reference lists documents at the National Archives linking Prescott and Thyssen
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

In other national archives news, NA keeps presidential papers for a number of years after which time they have to be made public. One of the first executive orders of the most recent Bush did upon becoming president was to stop the release of the presidential papers from the 80s ... during a period when the US was supporting Iraq and supplying it with WMDs.

past posts mentioning Schacht and/or Thyssen:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#82 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#10 OODA in highly stochastic environments
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#37 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#52 An elusive command philosophy and a different command culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#51 How would you succinctly desribe maneuver warfare?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#16 a clock in it, was Re: Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#54 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#95 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#35 What Makes sorting so cool?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#41 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#19 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#33 Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#7 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#0 How Corporate America Invented Christian America; Inside one reverend's big business-backed 1940s crusade to make the country conservative again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#26 Putin's Great Crime: He Defends His Allies and Attacks His Enemies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#28 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:31:47 -0800
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
The USSR suffered far more damage from WW II than any of the western allies. The USSR was the primary target of the Germans, and threw everything they had against them (materials and bodies). And (not without reason) the USSR feared that the US would attack them after WW II.

is Harvard responsible for the rise of Putin?:

John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html
How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to scandal and disgrace.
http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html
Russian Military Politics and Russia's 2010 Defense Doctrine
https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=1050

other little stuff like

CIA admits role in 1953 Iranian coup
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-role-1953-iranian-coup
CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/
and Schwarzkopf senior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

"The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order"
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Bretton-Woods-Relations-University-ebook/dp/B00B5ZQ72Y/

portrays White as heavily under the influence of the Soviets, who secretly provided him with a draft of demands for him to get US to issue to Japan (which he did) ... that would prompt Japan into attacking the US (which they did ... Soviets were battling Germany in the west and were worried that Japan would attack in the east ... needed to divert Japan into pacific conflict with the US).

Hull Note
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note
According to Benn Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, while "no single individual can be said to have triggered" the Pearl Harbor attack Harry Dexter White "was the author of the key ultimatum demands". Steil also maintains "the Japanese government made the decision to move forward with the Pearl Harbor strike after receiving the ultimatum".

... snip ...

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I Feel Old

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Old
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 08:48:45 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Welch pushes GE Capital into one of the major institutions responsible for the financial mess ... and the growth in GE's bottom line.. "Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present", pg200/loc3925-30:

The CNNMoney writers got it slightly wrong. GE was not exactly like the American economy. It was even more dependent on financial services. In the early 2000s, GE was again riding a financial wave, the subprime mortgage lending boom; it had even bought a subprime mortgage broker. GE borrowed still more against equity to exploit the remarkable opportunities, its triple-A rating giving it a major competitive advantage. By 2008, the central weakness of the Welch business strategy, its dependence on financial overspeculation, became ominously clear. GE's profits plunged during the credit crisis and its stock price fell by 60 percent. GE Capital, the main source of its success for twenty-five years, now reported enormous losses.

pg324/loc6382-85:

General Electric's persistent earnings increases were a leading example of how earnings were manipulated to produce consistent gains. Fortune analyzed how Jack Welch used both pension fund reserves and reserves at GE Capital to supplement quarterly earnings in order to make them rise consistently. As noted, they rose every quarter for almost thirteen years. GE stock roughly tripled between 1990 and 1995 and then quintupled between 1995 and early 2000.

... snip ...


more recent on GE:

Haier scoops up GE's appliances business for $5.4B
http://seekingalpha.com/news/3033326-haier-scoops-up-ges-appliances-business-for-5_4b
China's Haier Nears Deal to Buy GE Appliance Business
http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-haier-nears-deal-to-buy-ge-appliance-business-1452826607

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1976 vs. 2016?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:04:31 -0800
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
By the 80's, some companies got hip to this. Clean shaven bright eyed spit-shined visiting vendor engineers just didn't get the same respect even on Wall Street as a dude with a big bushy beard and what was obviously a "suit" pieced together from Goodwill rejects.

RCA Computer may have started the trend with a series of advertisements in the later 60's contrasting their FEs in splashy shirts, "battery model" ties, against IBM's stick up the rear look.


this mentions that Future System primary motivation was to lock out clone controllers.
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07

during the future system period, they were killing off 370 efforts ... which is credited with giving clone processors market foothold ... past future system posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

I had joined the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

and during the Future System period, continued to work on 360/370 stuff ... and would even periodically ridicule what they were doing in FS.

I had also been talked into getting a couple 3piece suites for visiting customers ... especially large financial institutions in the NY/Conn area. One financial institution had one of the largest "big blue" datacenters in Conn ... and I could drop by just about anytime and sit around and shoot the breeze with the datacenter manager (and branch office technical people).

At one point the branch office manager did something that enormously offended the customer. At the time, Amdahl was primarily selling to univ. ... but hadn't broken into any "true blue" commercial accounts. The customer decided to teach the branch office manager a lesson and order an Amdahl machine (in would be a single lonely Amdahl system in a vast sea of "blue" systems). I got asked to go on-site at the customer for extended period ... effectively to divert attention that ordering the Amdahl system was a technical issue. I refused since I felt it was a waste of time, since I knew the customer really well and knew they were going to order the Amdahl system regardless of what IBM did.

I was then told that would be the end of my career in IBM ... i would never get a promotion ... the first true blue commercial account (and one of IBM's largest customers) to order an Amdahl machine would ruin the branch office manager's reputation ... who happened to be a good sailing buddy of the IBM CEO (I would still visit the customer, but there was no point in living there for 6-12 months).

After that, I decided there was no longer any point in wearing 3piece suites or being clean shaven.

This happened to be 1976.

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1976 vs. 2016?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 vs. 2016?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:29:15 -0800
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#24 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#25 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#27 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#28 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#29 1976 vs. 2016?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#41 1976 vs. 2016?

other trivia ... after that incident, the following year I transfer to san jose research. in the early 80s, a co-worker had left IBM and was doing a lot of consulting for chip design tool & chip shops in silicon valley. One chip shop had large vm370 operation (senior VP of engineering had started with cp67 in the 60s) ... and former co-worker was doing lots of unix & c porting to vm370 ... C compiler ... lots of C compiler performance optimization, UCB chip design tools ported to vm370/cms, etc. At one point he was doing support for ethernet connected SGI workstations and the IBM salesman happened to drop by and asked him what he was doing. The salesman then told him that IBM mainframe service might not be so timely unless he was to support token-ring. I then got a several hr phone call liberally sprinkled with lots of 4letter words. The next morning the senior VP of engineering has a press conference and announce the company was moving all its IBM mainframe work toh sun servers.

This reverberates through IBM and there are lots of meetings to discuss how to reverse the move off mainframes to servers. The opening briefings of all the meetings never mention the true motivation about what precipitated the action.

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:00:03 -0800
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
The problem for OPEC is not that they were not "left to their own device" (upstream). They let prices rise too high whcih led to US fracking and Canadian oil shale development. Now those infrastructures are in place and OPEC can only blame themselves, they got too greedy.

I think OPEC had a giant linear programming problem and they guessed wrong on some of the parameters.


1970 I was called onsite to OIL industry datacenter in the Denver area. At the time, there was local article series about how they were shutting down pumping liquid into oil fields (as part of oil recovery) because it was resulting in earthquakes ... they had to wait long enough for memories to fade.

recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#83 Wastewater well suspended after "frackquakes" rock Colorado

From the law of unintended consequences ... during last decade, relatives & survivors of 9/11 were prohibited from suing Sandi Arabia for responsibility. When the ban was lifted in 2013 (allowing Saudi Arabia to be sued for 9/11 responsibility), the explanation for the change was that US had achieved greater energy independence. recent refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#11 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#89 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#54 The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You

however, speculation past couple weeks is that it may have all been a ploy ... current fracking & shale needs oil to be over $80-100 for it to pay. Now that oil has dropped way back down, many of the companies face bankruptcy
http://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-plunge-sparks-bankruptcy-concerns-1452560335

Semi-related issue is complaints about trade treaties being orchistrated in secrecy by corporations with various kinds of onerous provisions ... like corporations can sue governments in international court ... if a government passes laws that the corporations feel impacts their profit. A case has been filed against US government by people behind Keystone pipeline ... that the US government has caused them to loose profit.

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Thanks Obama

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:30:26 -0800
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
Cuts to social programs produce screams from civil servants, single mothers and pensioners. Cuts to food stamps produce shouts from farmers and shops. Politicians enjoy spending money but hate being told off so cuts to these programs are rare.

Deferred maint. is estimated at $2T plus. The Social Security Trust Fund of some $2.8T is just paper IOUs, congress already spent it (lots of social security blather is obfuscation and misdirection away from having to pay off the IOUs).

Food Stamps and other programs are just small percentage needed. Also afc & news periodically references large corporations paying less than living wage and the difference needed to be made up by gov. social programs. Congress had GAO do a report on this in 1995 (something like gov. subsidiezes major corporations paying less than living wage to the tune of $10k/annum/person) ... the interesting thing is I haven't found an update since then (as if congress wants as little attention as possible on the subject of significant increases in various kinds of corporate welfare happening last decade).

One claimed explanation comes from this account of how the lobbying by the Chamber of Commerce changed in the late 90s ttp://www.amazon.com/Influence-Machine-Commerce-Corporate-American-ebook/dp/B00NDTUDHA/

the other part of the problem is in 2002, congress allowed the fiscal responsibility act to expire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAYGO

2010 CBO report was then tax revenue was cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for a $12T budget gap (compared to the fiscal responsibility act, nearly $2T/annum in unfunded spending with combination of tax cuts and spending increases). Revenue and spending still hasn't been restored to what it was under fiscal responsibility act ... and the interest on that debt is becoming an increasingly major budget item. posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

In the middle of last decade (only a couple years after the fiscal responsibility act was allowed to expire), congress had gotten so crazy that the US Comptroller General started including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for how badly they were savaging the budget). posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

again, local DC news periodically refers to congress as "Kabuki Theater" ... what is seen publically has little to do with what is really going on ... including obfuscating issues away from the real craziness that happened last decade with tax revenue and spending.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:39:35 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Just as critics blamed him when oil prices are high.

griftopia had chapter on the enormous spike in oil prices the summer of 2008 (gas going over $4/gal). CFTC has a rule that operations need to have significant position in the commodity in order to play since speculators resulted in wild irrational price swings (they bet on prices going up and then push the price up ... and then bet on prices going down and make corresponding bets, they are making most of their money off price swings & volitility, which they exert a great deal of control). Then 19 secret letters go out allowing specific speculators to play greatly increasing price volitility (and responsible for the enormous spike in oil prices summer of 2008).

Later a senator releases the transaction details showing the speculators responsible for the huge spike in oil the summer of 2008. Articles in the popular press then are criticizing the senator for violating those companies corporate privacy

griftopia posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#griftopia

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:59:50 -0800
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
I hadn't thought about this before, but if the gov't stopped the social programs, would people still find it worthwhile to take these jobs? If the jobs couldn't be filled, wouldn't the employers have to raise wages to attract workers?

not exactly ... they lobbied heavily to allow enormous numbers of illegal immigrants in (even lower sub-living wages) ... but even they still put significant burden on social services (still significant indirect corporate welfare subsidy). The book claims that "Chamber of Commerce" was heavily involved lobbying behind the scenes that various industries & companies got as many illegal immigrant workers as they needed.

complicating the subject was that the rise of too big to fail last decade were also coming to depend on their too big to prosecute and too big to jail status and branching out into lots of other criminal activity, manipulating LIBOR, FOREX, commodities, facilitating tax evasion, ribo-signing mills fabricating mortgage documents, and money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists. The money laundering for drug cartels is credited with playing significant factor in the increase in cartel violence (including paying for boat loads of military grade armament) ... lots of it happening along the southern border and involving illegal immigrant communities.

money laundering posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail) posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
tax evasion posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
LIBOR posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:40:53 -0800
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
Congress typically cuts, or don't increase military paychecks, as a way to 'cut military spending'.

congress increases spending for the military industrial complex ... where they will sacrifice soldier paychecks and benefits in order to continue increasing MICC industry spending. MICC industry wants to see constantly increasing quarterly numbers ... regardless of the ups and downs of world conflicts ... i.e. Eisenhower warning and emerging perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
micc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

one explanation for the massive militarization of police ... is that giving away all that military hardware to police departments around the country ... would then require big MICC contracts to replace that equipment.

Militarization of police - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarization_of_police
The dangerous militarization of our police
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/opinions/love-move-bombing-anniversary/
11 Shocking Facts About America's Militarized Police Forces
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces
Police Militarization
https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/police-militarization
Police Militarization
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/police-militarization/

The administration ... including the VP ... besides the WMD fabrication justifying Iraq war ... were also claiming it would "only" cost $50B

... however company (including subsidiaries) formally headed by VP, is the winner of almost that much in no-bid Iraq contracts

And The Winner For The Most Iraq War Contracts Is . . . KBR, With $39.5 Billion In A Decade
http://www.ibtimes.com/winner-most-iraq-war-contracts-kbr-395-billion-decade-1135905
Last week, the Costs of War Project by the Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University said the war in Iraq cost $1.7 trillion dollars, not including the $490 billion in immediate benefits owed to veterans of the war and the lifetime benefits that will be owed to them or their next of kin.

... snip ...

other estimates have combined Iraq & Afghanistan coming to long term $5T-$6T.

Halliburton, KBR, and Iraq war contracting: A history so far
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jun/09/arianna-huffington/halliburton-kbr-and-iraq-war-contracting-history-s/

Maybe what they met to say was that Halliburton & subsidiaries wouldn't charge the US gov. more than $50B for the Iraq war ... rather than the total cost of the Iraq war wouldn't be more than $50B.

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:53:52 -0800
"James Green" <667755@gmail.com> writes:
No reason why they can't do the same thing now that the cold war is over.

One of the Boyd acolytes ... Boyd tribute he wrote for the Naval Institute proceedings ... but intro has some comments about funding hadn't been cut after cold war ended
http://web.archive.org/web/20011224132049/http://www.infowar.com/iwftp/cspinney/c199.txt

goes along with this "The Domestic Roots of Perpetual War"
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html

for the Magazine of Exconomi Affairs and Pentagon Labyrinth
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/pentagon-labyrinth.html
This pamphlet aims to help newcomers and seasoned observers grapple with the problems of national defense. Intended especially for readers who are concerned about the superficial nature of the political debate on national security, this handbook assembles the insights of ten professionals, each with decades of experience in the armed services, the Pentagon bureaucracy, Congress, the intelligence community, military history, journalism and other disciplines.

... snip ...

perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

Iraq war was just part of the way of keeping the funding flowing into the military industrial complex ... and to add icing on the cake, this includes account how corporate representatives approached former eastern block countries and told them if they voted in the UN for the Iraq war, they could get membership in NATO and directed appropriation USAID to get modern (US) military gear (compatible & interoperable with NATO gear).
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

Boyd URL and postings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Strategy

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Strategy
Date: 19 Jan 2016
Blog: Linkedin
Strategy
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/strategy-lynn-wheeler

Rereading some of the Infinity Journal special editions on strategy ... there are some references to needed correct vocabulary.
https://www.infinityjournal.com/special-editions/

When I sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM we would get into related discussion about English not having the necessary words, vocabulary, definitions, etc. Some of this shows up a little in past discussions about "fingerspitzengefuhl" (and "coup d'oeil").

My own experience is more related to computer things. In the late 70s and early 80s, I was blamed for online computer conferencing (sort of precursor to social media) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s). Somewhat as a result, a research was paid to sit in my office for nine months and take notes on how I communicated (face-to-face, telephone, etc, even going with me to meetings). They also got copies of all my incoming and outgoing email and log of all instant messages. The result was papers, talks, books, and a Stanford PHD. The researcher had spent sometime as an ESL (english as second language) teacher ... and at one point commented about my communication was more characteristic of non-native English (ESL) speaker. The issue is that I have no other "native" language ... but I've frequently pontificated is a lot of my thought processes and computer work has been outside of language ... much more akin to "fingerspitzengefuhl" (I've frequently been blamed that it was my fault that I couldn't explain how some of my software worked so others could understand). some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

ibmjargon
http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf

look at "Tandem Memos" entry ... reference to the internal online computer communication. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee was told about online computer communication (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me.
Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticised the way products were are developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

"Fingerspitzengefuhl" can be described as tactile understanding and "coup d'oeil" as visual understanding. A example from IBM days is former co-worker who had been studied from birth since they had been born with only one brain hemisphere. They said that a map (visual) was completely incomprehensible but they could easily follow step-by-step directions.

The issue of only "thinking" in a natural language can come into play for creativity & innovation if the words for the concepts haven't been invented yet.

I'm not really one of the Boyd acolytes. This is tribute written by one of the "acolytes" for USNI Proceedings after Boyd passes ... for non-members it is here at the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011224132049/http://www.infowar.com/iwftp/cspinney/c199.txt

A periodic Boyd story is To Be or To Do ... this one from the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 Sept 1999
There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To be or to do, that is the question. Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997

... snip ...

Boyd URLs and posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Thanks Obama

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:07:04 -0800
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
Have you ever seen an army showered with gold coins ? AFAIK it has never happened so we can only guess at what would happen.

my son-in-law was in fallujah 2004-2005 during the worst of the conflict and then baqubah 2007-2008 described as worse than fallujah ... but since the administration was saying that things were better, it got almost no coverage.

NY Fed's $40 Billion Iraqi Money Trail
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45031100
By one account, the New York Fed shipped about $40 billion in cash between 2003 and 2008. In just the first two years, the shipments included more than 281 million individual bills weighing a total of 363 tons. But soon after the money arrived in the chaos of war-torn Baghdad, the paper trail documenting who controlled it all began to go cold.

... snip ...

other stories have it reached $60B in pallets of shrink wrapped $100 bills ... much of it supposedly for "tributes" paid to various factions around Iraq (to stop hostile action) ... but also vast amounts disappearing into pockets of various US companies (this was in addition to tens of billions paid to US companies in no-bid contracts) .... this is for an action that included justification claims that it wouldn't cost more than $50B total (in danger of reaching 100 times that amount).

There is long tradition of paying tribute (gold coins) to cease hostilities.

past posts mentioning tributes(/bribes):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#52 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#5 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#7 OT: article on foreign outsourcing

past posts mentioning tens of billions in pallets of shrink-wrapped $100 bills
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#86 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#65 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#68 The Pentagon Spent $2.7 Billion on an Intelligence System That Doesn't Work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#76 Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its billions

past posts mentioning baqubah
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#21 The Age of Unsatisfying Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#2 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#8 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#64 Early use of the word "computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#54 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#49 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#86 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#30 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#38 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#52 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#60 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#10 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#48 John Boyd's Art of War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#10 Why the Death of the Tank Is Greatly Exaggerated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#13 Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#42 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#47 McCain: Send Petraeus back to Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#61 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#79 Army Modernization Is Melting Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#68 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#69 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#48 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#43 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#78 New hard drive
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:00:19 -0800
"James Green" <667755@gmail.com> writes:
Fantasy. They have bugger all in the way of a navy and what they do have wouldn't last for long if the US decided to eliminate it. China hasn't got anything it can attack Japan with except nukes and even the most rabid chinese leader isnt actually going to be stupid enough to try using those against Japan.

you have to register to read ... but goes into options that eisenhower had in the '58 taiwan strait crisis and how it compares to current air-sea battle scenarios
https://www.infinityjournal.com/article/155/Will_a_President_Approve_AirSea_Battle_Learning_from_the_1958_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis/

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html

in a number of recent war games ... newest generation of ("quiet") diesel/electric submarines have consistently popped up in the middle of carrier group ... taking out the carrier and number of other ships. but there is also concern about the latest in hypersonic "carrier killer" missiles
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026155123/missile-icbm-weapons-china-parade.html

A new Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile is bad news for US aircraft carriers
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-growing-military-power-may-make-us-aircraft-carriers-obsolete-2015-10

latest carrier is $13B and counting ... but beginning to look more & more like sitting duck ... and cost so much that navy becomes extremely risk adverse about deploying them into dangerous situations.

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Compile error

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Compile error
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 21 Jan 2016 22:52:33 -0800
Thomas.Savor@FISERV.COM (Savor, Thomas , Alpharetta) writes:
Management System or DBMS in 1983 when IBM >released DB2 on its MVS mainframe platform. -- Wikipedia, citing an IBM manual as authority.

All these years, I've have only known of DB2. The name seems to have stuck.

Was there ever a DB1 ?? Will there ever be a DB3 ??


The original sql/relational implementation was at SJR (bldg. 28 on main plant site, using modified vm/370 on 370/145), System/R. History/Reunion:
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_R
and another history
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/20/ibm_system_r_making_relational_really_real/
and
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~rap/teaching/504/2010/readings/history-of-system-r.pdf

The official new DBMS project was EAGLE .... with the corporation focused on EAGLE it was possible to get System/R out the door as SQL/DS (under the radar).

When EAGLE imploded, there was a request about how fast would it take to port System/R to MVS ... eventually released as DB2 (originally for analytical & decision support *only*).

past posts mentioning System/R
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
also referenced here
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/citations.html

The Birth of SQL
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-The.html

Some discussion of EAGLE and then DB2
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-DB2.html

I periodically reference this post about Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference room
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

one of the people in the meeting would tell how he was responsible for the majority of the tech transfer into the Santa Teresa Lab (now silicon valley lab) for DB2.

Jim Gray departs for Tandem palming off some number of things on me ... old email ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801016

Eventually IBM Toronto starts RDBMS for IBM/PC ... implemented in C .. which is made available on other platforms and is also called DB2 ... even though it is totally different code base from the mainframe implementation.

SQL/DS is also eventually renamed DB2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_SQL/DS

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Strategy

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Strategy
Date: 21 Jan 2016
Blog: Linkedin
re
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#49

Strategy
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/strategy-lynn-wheeler

trivia: as I said, I had been blamed for online computer communication (precursor to social media) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s) ... in the late 70s and early 80s ... which was part of motivation for paying the researcher to study my communication (sat in the back of my office for 9months taking notes on how I communicated), resulting in number of papers, books and Stanford PHD. the dissertation was

Conversation for action : the computer terminal as medium of communication in 1985

Joint between language and computer AI (winograd was advisor on computer ai side) ... note from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Winograd
His approach shifted away from classical Artificial Intelligence after encountering the critique of cognitivism by Hubert Dreyfus and meeting with the Chilean philosopher Fernando Flores. They published a critical appraisal from a perspective based in phenomenology as Understanding Computers and Cognition: a new foundation for design in 1987. In the latter part of the 1980s, Winograd worked with Flores on an early form of groupware. Their approach was based on conversation-for-action analysis.

... snip ...

which the researcher had spent the first part of the 80s studying.

posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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Compile error

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Compile error
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 22 Jan 2016 10:12:22 -0800
JO.Skip.Robinson@ATT.NET (Skip Robinson) writes:
The name 'DB2' seems to have followed the 1980s tradition of what I call 'name bloat', the practice of inflating a moniker in one way or another to make a product look more mature or more elegant. The paragon in my mind was dBASE II from Ashton-Tate. There never was a plain old dBASE. The roman numeral was added from the get-go to make the product seem new and improved. Moreover, there was never an 'Ashton'. That name was invented because, gosh darn it, it sounded good hyphenated with Tate, a real person.

Before DB2 there was precedent for name bloat within IBM. There never was a plain old 'JES'. The product emerged from the cocoon as JES2. There had been a predecessor product called 'HASP', which may or may not have been an acronym for Houston Automatic Spooling Priority, but the name 'J-E-S' was born complete with suffix.

Meanwhile there did emerge a 'JES3', but it was not an evolutionary descendant of JES2. Both products have coexisted, albeit uneasily, for decades. We used to imagine a JES5 or JES6 (depending on one's arithmetic proclivity) that would somehow combine the best features of both products, but it's almost certainly DOA. Likewise, the prospects for a 'DB3' are as dim as a distant star.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#52

note that VS1 had JES1 (Job Entry Subsystem 1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/VS1

The official names were OS/VS1 and OS/VS2 ... so JES2 originally may have originally been to designate it was for OS/VS2.

Long ago and far away, my wife was in the GBURG JES group and was part of the catchers for ASP turning into JES3. She was then co-author of JESUS (JES UNIFIED SYSTEM) document ... which merged the features in JES2 and JES3 that respective customers couldn't live w/o ... for various reasons never saw the light of day.

A Fascinating History of JES2
http://www.share.org/p/bl/et/blogid=9&blogaid=238
For the truth we must go back to the mid 1960's. IBM's OS/360 was in trouble. The spooling (wonder where that name came from) support was slow and the overhead was high. Many programming groups independently attacked the problem. ASP, loosely based upon the tightly coupled IBM 7090/7094 DCS, held the lead in the OS/360 spooling sweepstakes. ASP's need for at least two CPU's fit well with IBM Marketing's plans for the System/360. Meanwhile, a group of IBM SE's, located in Houston, developed a different product of which they were justifiably proud. They wanted to popularize it, as they correctly suspected it would be the balm for OS/360 users, increasing the usability and popularity of the operating system, and, not incidentally, furthering their careers. All they needed was the right name! A name which was easy to remember, a name which would draw attention to their product, and a name to distract from the ASP publicity. That name was Half-ASP, or HASP. Naturally, if HASP and ASP were products of two different companies, the FTC would have stepped in to stop such a predatory product name. Regulatory action was prevented, however, because IBM is "one big happy family", believed by many to be larger than the Government.

... snip ...

of course officially, the "H" stands for "Houston"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Automatic_Spooling_Priority

then my wife was con'ed into going to POK to be responsible for loosely-coupled architecture ... where she peer-coupled shared data architecture ... which saw very little uptake (except for IMS hot-standby) until SYSPLEX & Parallel SYSPLEX ... contributing to her not remaining long in POK (along with the ongoing periodic battles with the communication group trying to force her into using SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled operation). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

as undergraduate in the 60s, I got to make a lot of HASP modifications (I had also been hired fulltime by the university to be responsible for production mainframe systems) ... including implementing terminal support and conversational editor in HASP for a form of CRJE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_job_entry
some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

DB2 may have been because some had hopes that the official new DBMS "EAGLE" might still be able to rise from its ashes ... or it was to designate the OS/VS2 (aka MVS) version of System/R as opposed to the earlier SQL/DS version of System/R (that ran on VM370, VS1, DOS/VSE).

trivia: one of the problems with the System/R tech transfer to Endicott for SQL/DS ... was that several enhancements to vm370 had been made to make System/R much more efficient. For various reasons, the Endicott people didn't want to make SQL/DS release dependent on getting enhancements into VM370 ... and so that had to be dropped.

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:56:41 -0800
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
The Sherman, a medium tank, was more a joke and got many crews killed. I have seen a documentary on the Panther tank. The Panther Regimental commander they interviewed for the documentary said not only was he not afraid of the Sherman Firefly, those who put men into the Sherman should have been shot.

there have been various references that they were produced in such large numbers ... that German's could be overwhelmed by keeping sending Shermans until the enemy ran out of ammunition

repeat from earlier post original from "misson command" (auftragstaktik) discussions:
Logistics and industrial capability wins in state on state wars. On D Day (6 Jun) the US alone flew over 3,000 sorties the Germans could only manage 150. The famous debrief of a German anti-tank commander when captured at Normandy when asked how he came to be captured, his answer was he ran out of anti-tank shells before the americans ran out of tanks.

....

shermans were effectively "cannon fodder" ... but also the crews.

then Russia not only significantly more tanks, but better tanks, From Guderian's book (Panzer Leader), loc2902-3:
Hitler then said: 'If I had known that the figures for Russian tank strength which you gave in your book were in fact the true ones, I would not—I believe—ever have started this war.'

loc2903-6:
He was referring to my book Achtung! Panzer!, published in 1937, in which I had estimated Russian tank strength at that time as 10,000; both the Chief of the Army General Staff, Beck, and the censor had disagreed with this statement. It had cost me a lot of trouble to get that figure printed; but I had been able to show that intelligence reports at the time spoke of 17,000 Russian tanks and that my estimate was therefore, if anything, a very conservative one.

loc2256-58:
The military commission was so insistent on this point that eventually our manufacturers and Ordnance Office officials concluded: 'It seems that the Russians must already possess better and heavier tanks than we do.' It was at the end of July, 1941, that the T34 tank appeared at the front and the riddle of the new Russian model was solved.

loc2262-64:
At this time our yearly tank production scarcely amounted to more than 1,000 of all types. In view of our enemies' production figures this was very small. As far back as 1933 I had visited a single Russian tank factory which was producing 22 tanks per day of the Christie-Russki type.

... snip ...

past posts mentioning Shermans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#85 V-Man's Patton Quote (LONG) (Pronafity)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#10 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#11 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#16 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#27 Controversial paper - Good response article on ZDNet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#24 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#11 The 8008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#28 was change headers: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#21 WWII supplies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#11 To: Graymouse -- Ireland and the EU, What in the H... is all this about?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#21 To: Graymouse -- Ireland and the EU, What in the H... is all this about?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#17 realtors (and GM, too!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#28 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#29 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#43 Boyd's Briefings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#62 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#63 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#71 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#69 rationality

past posts mentioning Guderian:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#120 atomic History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#29 Review of Steve McConnell's AFTER THE GOLD RUSH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#30 Review of Steve McConnell's AFTER THE GOLD RUSH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#16 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#36 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#38 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#33 Star Trek: TNG reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#43 Star Trek: TNG reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#51 employee motivation & executive compensation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#27 The BASIC Variations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#24 Timeless Classics of Software Engineering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#86 Organizations with two or more Managers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#3 Computerworld Article: Dress for Success?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#14 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#9 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#41 was change headers: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#37 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#25 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#34 WWII supplies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#8a Using Military Philosophy to Drive High Value Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#61 Up, Up, ... and Gone?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#63 how can a hierarchical mindset really ficilitate inclusive and empowered organization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#69 Blinkenlights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#73 Most 'leaders' do not 'lead' and the majority of 'managers' do not 'manage'. Why is this?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#34 Mission Control & Air Cooperation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#43 Boyd's Briefings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#48 Do you know of, or have you participated in, any good examples of successful collaboration?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#68 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#7 Innovation and iconoclasm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#3 Preparing for Boyd II
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#52 An elusive command philosophy and a different command culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#26 Strategy subsumes culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#51 How would you succinctly desribe maneuver warfare?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#2 Did they apply Boyd's concepts?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#84 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#63 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#50 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#51 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'? thoughts please
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#17 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#81 How Criticizing in Private Undermines Your Team - Harvard Business Review
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#48 John Boyd's Art of War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#16 Command Culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#61 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#46 The Pentagon Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#19 Where to Flatten the Officer Corps
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

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Compile error

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Compile error
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 22 Jan 2016 10:40:21 -0800
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#54 Compile error

other trivia from ibm jargon:
MVM - n. Multiple Virtual Memory. The original name for MVS (q.v.), which fell foul of the fashion of changing memory to storage.

MVS - n. Multiple Virtual Storage, an alternate name for OS/VS2 (Release 2), and hence a direct descendent of OS. OS/VS2 (Release 1) was in fact the last release of OS MVT, to which paging had been added; it was known by some as SVS (Single Virtual Storage). MVS is one of the big two operating systems for System/370 computers (the other being VM (q.v.)). n. Man Versus System.


... snip ...

as part of the "Man Versus System" theme ... it had become significantly much easier to work out lots of computer concepts and design on vm370/cms ... and then later port the implementation to MVS ... than trying to start on an MVS base.

some time ago, I got a request about the history of adding virtual memory to all 370s ... old post with exchange from IBMer involved (who recently passed) with references of os/v2, future systems, hasp/asp, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73

other parts of the thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#71
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#72
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#74

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:22:25 -0800
mausg writes:
The Sturmovik tankbuster was probably the inspiration for the A-10.

Stuka and Sturmovik -- The Aircraft That Inspired the A-10
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/stuka-and-sturmovik-the-aircraft-that-inspired-the-a-10-8c8d885d61db
It is the Sturmovik, along with the German Ju-87 Stuka dive bomber, that fathered the A-10. -- The World War II close air support successes of both the Stuka and the Sturmovik had a major -- and inspiring --- influence in convincing all of us early A-X/A-10 proponents that close support was by far the most important mission of air power, certainly more so than strategic bombing, A-10 designer Pierre Sprey tells War is Boring.

... snip ..

Pierre is from the Boyd group and one of the reasons I've gotten dragged into discussions about using F35 as excuse for killing off A10 (as well as close-air-support versus strategic bombing arguments)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Sprey
Together with John Boyd and Thomas P. Christie, he was a member of the self-dubbed 'Fighter Mafia', advocating the use of energy-maneuverability theory in fighter design.

... snip ...

boyd posts & URLs from around the web
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Man Versus System

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Man Versus System
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 22 Jan 2016 12:25:07 -0800
john.archie.mckown@GMAIL.COM (John McKown) writes:
Descended from ACP (Airline Control Program).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Airline_Control_Program

I worked at Braniff Airways before it went under. The reservation system ran ACP on a 2 Meg 3033. The thing would IPL in about 5 seconds. The ACP systems people were a bit strange. They had the source and modified it. I remember the CE complaining that the ACP attached tapes (3420s) would just die with "no warnings at all" whereas the MVT (yes MVT on a 3033) and, a bit later MVS and VM would show temp errors. The ACP people then told the CE that they had removed all logging of temporary errors to speed up processing. Not just on the tapes, but on the 3344 disks as well. IIRC, the 3344s on ACP actually used "software duplexing" for reliability.


there was big problem with 3081 ... which originally was going to be multiprocessor only ... and ACP/TPF didn't have multiprocessor support (they were afraid that the whole market would move to clone processors which were building newer single processor machines). An an interim they shipped some number of releases of VM370 with very unnatural things done to it, specifically for running ACP/TPF on multiprocessors (but degraded performance for all other customers). Eventually they shipped 3083 ... which was a 3081 box with one of the processors removed (minor trivia, simplest would be to remove the 2nd processor which was in the middle of the box ... but that would have made the box dangerously top-heavy, they had to rewrire "processor 0" to processor in the middle and remove the processor at the top of the box). other issues with 308x ... highlighting that it was warmed over FS technology
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

later in the 80s, my wife did temporary stint as chief architect for Amadeus (euro res system based on old eastern "system one") ... the communication group got her replaced because she backed x.25 (instead of sna/vtam) ... it didn't do them much good because amadeus went with x.25 anyway.

later in the mid-90s, we were asked to look at re-engineering some of the largest airline res system in the world ... starting with ROUTES (about 25% of total mainframe processing load) addressing the ten impossible things that they couldn't do. I went away and two months later came back with totally different ROUTES implementation that ran about hundred times faster and did all ten impossible things ... including ten RS/6000 990s being able to handle every ROUTES transaction for every airline in the world. The issue was much of ACP/TPF implementation was dictated by technology trade-offs made in the 60s ... it was possible to start from scratch 30yrs later and make totally different trade-offs (and a decade later, cellphone processors had processing capacity of those ten 990s).

It was fun because they provided me with tape of the full OAG ... including record for every scheduled airline flt in the world.

past posts mentioning AMADEUS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#49 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#50 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#76 Other oddball IBM System 360's ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#67 unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#47 What makes a mainframe a mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#6 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#7 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#27 Shipwrecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#23 Demo: Things in Hierarchies (w/o RM/SQL)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#29 Integer types for 128-bit addressing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#22 System/360; Hardwired vs. Microcoded
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#8 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#4 How Many 360/195s and 370/195s were shipped?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#9 Was FORTRAN buggy?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#14 Why so little parallelism?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#29 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#19 Pennsylvania Railroad ticket fax service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#52 US Air computers delay psgrs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#12 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#72 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#59 ACP/TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#45 64 gig memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#53 Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#19 American Airlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#34 American Airlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#41 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technologies?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#33 IBM touts encryption innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#55 IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#59 "Portable" data centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#23 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#29 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#16 Sabre Talk Information?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#17 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOS or Windows, doesn't matter)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#41 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#14 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#43 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#74 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#77 program coding pads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#8 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#9 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#52 How will mainframers retiring be different from Y2K?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#5 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#41 System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#13 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#69 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#54 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#84 ACP/TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#72 100 boxes of computer books on the wall

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:43:45 -0800
mausg writes:
On 2016-01-22, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote: There are photos of German armoured columns caught on the open steppe by Sturmoviks late in the war, very like those hell-like photos of Iraqi armour retreating in Gulf War I. There are supposed to be films online showing Syrian rebels firing a US anti-aircraft rocket at a Russian armoured helicopter in Syria recently, there is a flash, everyone cheers, then the Hind emerges from the smoke coming back.

Recent posts on facebook about it being 25yrs since Gulf War I. Note Boyd is credited with the battle plan for desert storm.

Ground war lasted 100hrs after A10s had been blasting away for 42days. GAO "air compaign effectiveness" study has Iraqis walking away from their tanks because they were sitting ducks. Later ground war accounts of tank battles (with no allied losses), fail to mention whether the Iraqis tanks had anybody home.

Boyd posts and URLs from around the web
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

past posts mentioning Desert Storm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#8 scheduling & dynamic adaptive ... long posting warning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#120 atomic History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#34 War, Chaos, & Business (web site), or Col John Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#65 Java as a first programming language for cs students
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001e.html#83 The Mind of War: John Boyd and American Security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#58 employee motivation & executive compensation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#0 employee motivation & executive compensation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#27 Controversial paper - Good response article on ZDNet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#61 If you're going to bullshit, eschew moderation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#19 Message To America's Students: The War, The Draft, Your Future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#34 I am an ageing techy, expert on everything. Let me explain the
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#15 The 8008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#4 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#41 was change headers: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#35 Universal constants
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#9 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#26 Current Officers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#39 Current Officers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#21 WWII supplies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#73 Most 'leaders' do not 'lead' and the majority of 'managers' do not 'manage'. Why is this?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#40 Time zones
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#16 comp.arch has made itself a sitting duck for spam
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#60 MasPar compiler and simulator
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#38 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#29 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#30 360 programs on a z/10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#43 Daylight Savings Time again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#55 Handling multicore CPUs; what the competition is thinking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#68 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#16 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#65 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#60 I actually miss working at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#14 Innovation and iconoclasm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#53 What is IBM culture?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#90 There is much we can learn from TE Lawrence
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#51 How would you succinctly desribe maneuver warfare?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#18 Colonel John Boyd Wikipedia Mention
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#17 Hierarchy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#2 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#49 Early use of the word "computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#62 Early use of the word "computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#50 Arming for the Navy's Return to History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#54 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#10 Jedi Knights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#60 The IBM mainframe has been the backbone of most of the world's largest IT organizations for more than 48 years
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#9 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#16 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#78 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#59 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#92 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#78 IBM commitment to academia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#36 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#49 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#41 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#84 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#87 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#10 Why the Death of the Tank Is Greatly Exaggerated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#61 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#79 Army Modernization Is Melting Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#92 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#97 Where does the term Wild Duck come from?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#106 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#83 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#2 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#46 The Pentagon Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#68 A-10 Attack Jets Rack Up Air-to-Air Kills in Louisiana War Game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#68 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#93 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#98 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#62 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#68 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#40 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#66 fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#38 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#46 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#9 Why do we keep losing?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#73 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#42 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#43 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#78 New hard drive

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:36:59 -0800
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
Dresden. My Lai. Tokyo. Warsaw. The blitz. Any number of attacks on Native Americans by whites. Air strikes on weddings/funerals/hospitals. Indeed, "kill everybody" goes back very far, witness the recent discovery of victims from 10,000 years ago.

McNamara was planning for LeMay fire bombing half dozen german cities (including dresden) and then fire bombing 67 Japanese cities.

American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity
http://www.amazon.com/American-Reckoning-Vietnam-National-Identity-ebook/dp/B00LFZ87LS/

loc1115-18:
In the final year of World War II, however, the United States carried out the most devastating air attacks in history--the firebombing of a handful of cities in Germany and sixty-seven in Japan, all of it followed by the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Robert McNamara, an aide to General Curtis LeMay, helped plan and analyze the firebombing.

loc1118-20:
In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, McNamara recalled the firebombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945: "In that single night, we burned to death a hundred thousand Japanese civilians in Tokyo--men, women, and children." After the war, General LeMay said to McNamara: "If we'd lost the war we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals."

... snip ...

past refs were that 1943 US stratetic bombing program claimed that it could win the war ... but turned out to be incorrect for a number of reasons. First they wanted all money to go to large strategic bombers and none for long-range fighters ... failed to learn anything from the German blitz on england needing long-range fighers (eventually learned the hard way), even with NORDEN bomb-sites it was hard to hit targets from 5-6 miles up ... even with accurate coordinates (gotten from wallstreet which were instrumental in rebuilding the German industry and military) ... turns out that it is almost impossible to miss a large target like a city with fire bombs (just about had to hit something).

past posts mentioning NORDEN bomb-sites
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#12 1950: Northrop's Digital Differential Analyzer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction

McNamara then leaves for Ford ... but comes back as SECDEF for vietnam where Laos becomes the most bombed country in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#2 The BASIC Variations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#1 Dangerous Hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#5 Dangerous Hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#67 Downwind from Alamogordo
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#25 You may ask yourself, well, how did I get here?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#43 A lesson from history about wasted valor, for which a price might be asked of us
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#75 Excellent and recommended
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#59 How do we fight bureaucracy and bureaucrats in IBM?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#38 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#93 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#100 The SDS 92, its place in history?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#38 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#53 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#35 Moving to the Cloud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#52 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#54 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#77 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#81 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#10 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#55 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#31 I Feel Old
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#59 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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Compile error

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Compile error
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 22 Jan 2016 18:42:33 -0800
hal9001@PANIX.COM (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes:
And then there was Star Wars (AKA: A New Hope [which was added when the film was rereleased as part of the release of The Empire Strikes Back]) which opened with a crawl saying Episode 4. That was just because they were emulating the old serials where each segment was a numbered Chapter with its own title (which often reflected the cliffhanger being resolved or the plot point of that chapter).

co-worker at IBM would talk about Lucas attending San Jose Astronomy club meetings and bringing draft outlines for all 8 episodes (for members to review) More recent interviews with Lucas says that the first episode he chose to do, was the one most likely for getting funding.

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 09:44:29 -0800
"kipg" <io@nospam.com> writes:
The Jap military essentially expected that with the US Pacific fleet wiped out, that the US would decide that places like the Philippines were undefendable and that the isolationists would prevail in the US.

MacArthur seemed to have been oblivious to the Pearl Harbor attack, "The Admirals: Nimitz, Halsey, Leahy, and King--The Five-Star Admirals Who Won the War at Sea" pg227/loc3475-80:
Nine hours later, after other Japanese air attacks against northern Luzon were reported, several hundred Mitsubishi bombers and Zero fighters roared over Clark Field outside Manila and destroyed the bulk of American airpower in the Philippines—MacArthur's air force—as it sat on the ground. Even after years of increasingly hostile Japanese intentions and fair evidence that something was building to a head in the Far East, some might be tempted to forgive MacArthur for being the victim of a surprise attack. But how could he still have his airplanes lined up wingtip to wingtip nine hours after being notified of the attack on Pearl Harbor? Two days later, with Philippine skies generally void of defending planes, another Japanese air attack destroyed the American naval base at Cavite.

"The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today" pg126/loc:1798-1801:
In December 1941, even after being informed of the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, he failed to disperse American aircraft on the ground in the Philippines, where he was in command, resulting in the loss of almost all his advanced warplanes, which were P-40 fighters and B-17 bombers. Similarly, in June 1950, he badly underestimated North Korean capabilities. He compounded misunderstanding with imprudence in his handling of forces and arrogance in his dealings with his superiors in Washington.

... snip ...

some past MacArthur refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#81 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#51 How would you succinctly desribe maneuver warfare?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#63 Difference between fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#64 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#70 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#74 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#93 Royal Pardon For Turing

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 11:22:48 -0800
gabe@GABEGOLD.COM (Gabe Goldberg) writes:
Indeed. Then a couple people responded. Good timing; I'm writing article on TPF for Destination z or IBM Systems Magazine (I forget where it'll be published). IBM TPFers have been very helpful and I'm contacting TPF users group: http://www.tpfug.org/ . I didn't post here because .... well, I just didn't, but I should have. Better late than never: I'm interested in TPF insights, experiences, etc.

Be brief, this won't be an epic article, though there might be follow-on pieces. Please copy me directly so replies aren't buried in the list digest.

Thanks...

Rick Troth said on IBM-Main: Lineage of TPF would also be interesting.


Before Jim left for tandem (earlier post about RDBMS, System/R, DB2) ... he was looking for real live DBMS locking statistics for profiling System/R (RDBMS) performance. This included data from ACP 3830 controller RPQ ... logical/symbolic locks implemented in the 3830 controller (much more efficient than device reserve/release) ... minor note IBM wanted to depreciate the ACP RPQ because corporate strategy was to push "string switches" ... which allowed two different controllers to get to the same device (and bypass "locks" in the other controller). old email refs: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#email800325

The customer statistics in above ... was just before the looming 3081 "crisis" (while ACP/TPF had loosely-coupled cluster support, it didn't have tightly-coupled, SMP support). Note above mentions two controlers (with string-switch) ... but it is same system having access to both controllers for redundancy.

As aside, US HONE datacenters were consolidated in Silicon Valley in the mid-70s (HONE was the world-wide, online sales&marketing support system). By the late 70s, the US HONE system had the largest "single-system image" loosely-coupled configuration in the world (with load-balancing and recovery across all systems in the complex) ... and required string-switch with pairs of controllers each with multiple channel connections in order for all the SMP (multiprocessor) systems in the complex to fully access the large DASD farm.

Rather than locking (device reserve/release) for the necessary operations, it used a special CCW sequence (when needed) that emulated the compare-and-swap instruction semantics. past posts mentioning charlie invented compare-and-swap while doing fine-grain multiprocessing locking on CP67 at the science center ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

trivia: when facebook moved to silicon valley it was to a new bldg. next door to the old HONE datacenter. misc. past posts mentioning HONE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

Of course the (HONE cluster) "single system image" support wasn't made available to customers until 30yrs later (late last decade).

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Where do you place VSE?

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Where do you place VSE?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 11:44:28 -0800
gabe@GABEGOLD.COM (Gabe Goldberg) writes:
One response cited Wikipedia entry. ALSO good timing; I'm ALSO writing article on VSE community. As you'd expect, the VSE list has had a lot to say -- positive, negative, and informative.

OS/360 for a time PCP, MFT, and MVT ... but didn't work well in the smallest real memory configurations ... giving rise to DOS/360. OS/360 somewhat becomes split between MFT customers (usually mid-size memory configurations) and MVT (largest memory configurations).

Move to virtual memory, DOS/360 morphs into DOS/VS (singe virtual address space, MFT morphs into VS1 (single virtual address space) and MVT morphs into VS2 (initially with single virtual address space, aka SVS much like VS1 ... and eventually MVS with multiple virtual address spaces).

During the Future System period, 370 efforts are being killed off (FS was different than 360/370 and was going to completely replace it). With the demise of FS, there is mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline. POK kicks off 3033 (168 logic mapped to 20% faster chips) and 3081 & MVS/XA in parallel (and convinces corporate to kill off vm370 product and move all the people to POK to work for MVS/XA; Endicott eventually acquires the vm370 product mission, but has to recreate a development group from scratch).

While POK is doing "XA" architecture ... highly tailored to MVS ... Endicott kicks off the "E" architecture ... which in large part is moving the single virtual address space into microcode and new instructions that enable/disable virtual page for specific real page. Internally the 4331 is called E3 and 4341 is called E4. DOS/VS becomes DOS/VSE.

In part because large percentage of 4300 machines are run with vm/370 ... they are actually run in 370 mode ... supporting 370 multiple virtual address spaces.

os/vs1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/VS1

above slightly garbled since the migration aid was primarily motivated for helping move mvs/370 to mvs/xa

VSE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSE_%28operating_system%29

The migration aid originally was only going to be used for internal mvs/xa development and never released to customers and so paid little attention to general function and performance. There then is internal politics ... an internal datacenter added full XA support to VM370 with full function/performance. POK wants corporate to support a massive new staff for the migration aid to try and upgrade it to the feature and performance of standard vm370 (with XA added). POK wins.

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 12:06:29 -0800
JO.Skip.Robinson@ATT.NET (Skip Robinson) writes:
I had a brief and bemusing encounter with TPF around 1990. My employer, Security Pacific Bank, was acquired by (the old SF-based) Bank of America, which was then under the tutelage of an ex CEO of American Airlines. He believed that TPF was the answer to all important IT questions. In particular, he engineered a project to manage the Bank's ATMs with TPF, perhaps the only time/place that TPF was charged with that responsibility--absolutely critical for a major financial institution. It apparently worked pretty well. My mainframe buddies there admired TPF for its lightning quick recovery--a blessing, they said, because it crashed a lot. ;-)

There was fantastic SE on financial institution account in LA ... he wrote ATM cash machine support in VM370 that he showed had higher throughput on 370/158 than TPF ran on 370/168. His trick was significant better disk arm scheduling (than TPF) ... had patterns of ATM useage and record layout ... and do things like delaying transaction somewhat proportional to the record location distance from current arm position and the probability another transaction would come in needing a record closer to the current arm position.

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 12:54:59 -0800
sasdtp@SAS.COM (Don Poitras) writes:
TPF ran lots of ATM networks. I worked at First Interstate in 1988 working on a project to convert from TPF to MVS. And certainly any bank that does VISA authorization at their ATMs still to this day use TPF because that's what VISA uses.

(credit) card associations started out as non-profits for brand marketing (getting merchants to accept brands) and network interconnect between merchant acquiring and customer issuing financial institutions (at one time 30,000 institutions). Interchange rules (amount charge merchants for credit card transaction, had pieces for the acquiring and issuing financial institutions as well as piece for the association network (and other surcharges based on things like fraud history & probability)

VISA installation for ACP for its card association network transaction processing was possibly big part of changing name from ACP to TPF. The card associations were making so much money off their netework interchange transaction charges (for card association networks) that they changed to profit and spun off in IPOs.

Around the turn of the century ... because of bank consolidation and outsourcing, 90% of credit card transactions were handled by six datacenters that had direct connections and no longer needed the card association networks. There was then big legal battle between card associations and the six processors (who felt they no longer had to share interchange fees with the card associations ... since they were no longer using their networks).

ATM/Debit networks were primarily Tandem (even though the backends might be IBM mainframes). Tandem had also acquired major ATM machine crypto hardware vendors. Long ago I got brought in as consultant into a small client/server that wanted to do financial transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called SSL they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Somewhat for having done "electronic commerce", in the mid-90s I got asked to work in the X9A10 financial standard working group that had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for all retail payments. We did detailed end-to-end threat analysis for nearly all kinds of retail payments (credit, debit, ACH, wire-transfer, face-to-face, point-of-sale, internet, etc). The result was a standard that eliminated most of the current kinds of fraud ... the downside was interchange fees have been heavily prorated based on fraud rates ... with an enormous profit component ... actually eliminating the fraud enormously impacts those calculations (and profit).

NACHA Internet Council did debit pilot with support in the Tandem network processors ... results published 23July2001, gone 404 but lives on at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706004855/http://internetcouncil.nacha.org/News/news.html

Compaq/Tandem had previously sponsored large workshop for me Jan1999 on the financial protocol standards ... old long-winded post by somebody at the workshop
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

The CEO of one of the companies that we had been working with and at the meeting, had been the head of POK mainframes in a prior life.

tandem ref (which includes reference to Jim Gray, which I worked with at IBM and left for Tandem ... but by the mid-90s was at Microsoft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandem_Computers
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gray_%28computer_scientist%29

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 17:24:07 -0800
edgould1948@COMCAST.NET (Ed Gould) writes:
I was not on the the team (next cubicle over). I was somewhat involved in the precursor(?) of Mastercard called Town & Country. This was in Chicago. The OS that Mastercard was was written was DOS (I *THINK* it was on a 360/30) and to some extent MFT (350/50) (this goes back 40 or so years so please forgive the memory errors). I do not have anything to add to the mastercard/ and the VISA (I just do not remember what the name was). I will take as face value about the battle, although I do remember it somewhat.

mastercard had huge number of series/1 in their network interfacing between acquirers and issuers.

around the turn of decade ... the populace was moving from credit to debit ... and the card associations introduced "signature debit" at point-of-sale ... that ran through the credit networks (and had credit level fraud and the much higher credit/fraud interchange fees ... rather than pin-debit through the debits network that had much lower fees as well as card associations not getting anything). national retailer association then had anti-trust legal action against the card associations for forcing debit point-of-sale transactions as "signature debit" (with significantly higher fees) ... and won huge settlement.

card associations then came up with "cash back" as an alternative ... where the cash back interchange rate that merchants pay is significantly higher than the "cash back" that consumers actually see (this is eventually going to replace the enormous amounts they make off fraud surchange fees ... when the get around to deploying more secure technology)

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 23 Jan 2016 17:34:11 -0800
other trivia ... IBM had bought complex that had been originally built in Purchase for new Nestle hdqtrs (before Nestle ever moved in). In the 90s, during the IBM troubles ... the new CEO was looking to raise cash and was selling off real estate (even at well below market and sometimes even below originally paid) ... and sold the Purchase bldg to MasterCard for its new hdqtrs. We had a meeting there (to discuss online banking) shortly after MasterCard moved in, they said that they paid more to have all the door hardware handles to be replaced ... than they paid IBM for the complex (something like 1% of the original Nestle building cost).

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:50:34 -0800
mausg writes:
There was a lot of rumors of all that. Tukachevsky was thinking of taking over, however most think his invasion of Poland, and forgeting about the Polish Army was not inspired. Then Gan's treatment of civilians in that war was not hopeful. Most of the officer corps, thanks to Trotsky, was ex-czarist. There was a problem there.

Smithsonian channel running greatest war ... started with axis/russian conflict. however they just mentioned that germany had 600,000 industrial workers from vichy france (not slave labor).

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:17:26 -0800
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
Thw bio of Macarthur on Wikipedia says: "For his defense of the Philippines, MacArthur was awarded the Medal of Honor." Note however that it doesn't say the Congresssional Medal of Honor.

Wikipedia also say the Congressional Medal of Honor is awarded for acts of personal valor. I never heard of any such act on his part. Is this just a part of the old boy's club? I looked at the "Talk" tab on Wikipedia but it was no help. Why is such a blatant lack of clarity allowed in Wikipedia? That article must be several years old by now.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_MacArthur
At 03:30 local time on 8 December 1941 (about 09:00 on 7 December in Hawaii),[119] Sutherland learned of the attack on Pearl Harbor and informed MacArthur. At 05:30, the Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, General George Marshall, ordered MacArthur to execute the existing war plan, Rainbow Five. MacArthur did nothing. On three occasions, the commander of the Far East Air Force, Major General Lewis H. Brereton, requested permission to attack Japanese bases in Formosa, in accordance with prewar intentions, but was denied by Sutherland. Not until 11:00 did Brereton speak with MacArthur about it, and obtained permission.[120] MacArthur later denied having the conversation

At 12:30, nine hours after the attack on Pearl Harbor, aircraft of Japan's 11th Air Fleet achieved complete tactical surprise when they attacked Clark Field and the nearby fighter base at Iba Field, and destroyed or disabled 18 of Far East Air Force's 35 B-17s, 53 of its 107 P-40s, three P-35s, and more than 25 other aircraft. Most were destroyed on the ground. Substantial damage was done to the bases, and casualties totaled 80 killed and 150 wounded.[122] What was left of the Far East Air Force was all but destroyed over the next few days.[123]


... snip ...

look at "view history" for the entry ... several updates in the past two months. there are lots of entries that have update battles ... where there are forces employed to try and keep adverse info for leaking intro entries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars
http://www.pcworld.com/article/236486/wild_wars_of_wikipedia.html

various factions have gotten so bad, that widipedia in the past has done things like blocking all ip-address in anyway related to US Congress.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28481876
http://www.newsweek.com/wikipedia-blocks-us-house-disruptive-editing-261295
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/congress-wikipedia-edit-block-transphobic/

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Thanks Obama

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 00:02:56 -0800
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
The invasion of Iraq was the result of Saddam Hussein not being fully cooperative with U.N. weapons inspectors, leading to less than absolute certainty - although the CIA *thought* he didn't have them - that he wasn't hiding weapons of mass destruction.

Replacement CIA director selected because he would go along with "Team B" analysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
then is VP ... and claims no knowledge of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
who then: Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job

Bush2 resides over the economic mess, 70 times larger than the S&L crisis

Team B was also involved in supplying Saddam with weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including WMDs in the Iran/Iraq war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

Sat. photo recon analyst warns that Iraq is marshaling forces for Kuwait invasion; administration says that Saddam told them he would do no such thing ... and proceeds to discredit the analyst. Analyst then warns that Iraq is marshaling forces for Saudi invasion ... now the administration is forced to choose between Iraq and Saudi.
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

Rumsfeld white house chief of staff (74-75), after replacing CIA director (with somebody that would go along with Team B), he resigns and becomes SECDEF (75-77), and replaced by one of his staffers, Dick Cheney. He is again SECDEF 2001-2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld

When Rumsfeld was white house chief of staff 74-75, Cheney was on his staff. Cheney then becomes white house chief of staff when Rumsfeld becomes SECDEF. Cheney is then SECDEF from 89-93 and VP 2001-2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

one of Bush2 first actions was an executive order to prevent release of Reagan presidential papers (required by law) ... which included period covered when US was providing Iraq with WMDs. A "Team B" member:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
He is a leading neoconservative.[4] As Deputy Secretary of Defense, he was "a major architect of President Bush's Iraq policy and ... its most hawkish advocate."[5] In fact, "the Bush Doctrine was largely [his] handiwork".

... snip ...

team b posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been decommissioned. She wrote a book about then getting locked up in Texas military hospital when she tried to take it public. EXTREME PREJUDICE-- The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

the decommissioned WMDs were quickly found but the information was classified, not made public until decade later:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

MIC wanted the war so badly that corporate reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and (directed appropriation) USAID (for purchase of modern US arms).
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
MIC ... military-industrial-complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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Thanks Obama

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:16:50 -0800
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
Had the US not invaded Iraq, Saddam probably would not have fired those missiles, so you're arguing a straw man.

The reason Gulf War I had to happen was Saddam invading Kuwait. He was given an opportunity to say "oops" and pull out, he refused to take it instead using Kuwait as a bargaining chip to try to get the Israelis to pull out of Palestine. That wasn't on the table and wasn't going to be on the table. He was given told "remove your army from Kuwait or we will remove it for you", and he decided to let the coalition do the removing, which it promptly did.

One could argue that the invasion of Kuwait was a failure of US diplomacy in that the US ambassador failed to make it clear to Saddam that if he invaded Kuwait the US would kill all of his soldiers and blow up all his tanks and airplanes.

After Gulf War I he did not shoot missiles at anybody. The problem there was that after being defeated, insted of getting on with life he decided to play games and after a while he got the Western public confused over what was true, what was false, and what was a game he was playing, which gave Bush ample rope to hang him.

Removing him was a bad thing because more people have died as a result of his removal than would have died if he had continued to lob his 50 years out of date rockets at Israel, which seemed to be treating them as an opportunity for trap-shooting on a grand scale.


US had horribly offended Iran, disposing the elected government and putting the Shah in power
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
and training his police (Schwarzkopf senior), the Savak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

After the revolution, US backed Iraq&Sadaam. The claim isn't so much that Saddam invaded Kuwait ... but it was then making preparation to invade Saudi. Then US has to choose between Iraq and Saudi (Saddam possibly believing that he had so tight with US that he could have his way in the mid-east). This account has Saddam believing that the US ambassdar gave him approval for invasion of Kuwait.
http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=517

Which goes along with the sat photo analyst account that the administration wasn't concerned until he reported that Iraq was marshaling forces for invasion of Saudi.

Note last decade, the administration blocked families of 9/11 victims from suing Saudi as responsible (that legal system can't sue a country). The was lifted the end of 2013 and they went ahead suing Saudi as responsible for 9/11. The speculation is that the increasing US energy independence allowed the US to show more freedom in dealing with Saudi.

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 11:21:07 -0800
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
The Poliburo was the governing body of hte Communist Party, which, with fewer than a quarter of the seats in the legislature, is no longer in power. He is to some extent subject to the legislature but I'm not at all clear on how much power he really has, I suspect that he is still finding that out himself.

well ... do we blame rise of Putin on Harvard? ... capitalism characterized as myopically focused on ever increasing quarterly profits ... looting and pillaging whoever might be convenient

well there is John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html

from above
If you are unfamiliar with this fiasco, which was also the true proximate cause of Larry Summers' ouster from Harvard, you must read an extraordinary expose, How Harvard Lost Russia, from Institutional Investor. I am told copies of this article were stuffed in every Harvard faculty member's inbox the day Summers got a vote of no confidence and resigned shortly thereafter.

... snip ...

How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to scandal and disgrace.
http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html

from above
Mostly, they hurt Russia and its hopes of establishing a lasting framework for a stable Western-style capitalism, as Summers himself acknowledged when he testified under oath in the U.S. lawsuit in Cambridge in 2002. "The project was of enormous value," said Summers, who by then had been installed as the president of Harvard. "Its cessation was damaging to Russian economic reform and to the U.S.-Russian relationship."

... snip ...

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Lineage of TPF

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Lineage of TPF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 24 Jan 2016 12:51:48 -0800
0000000248cce9f3-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Ed Finnell) writes:
As Lynn mentioned there were hardware mods for ACP/TPF to the 3081, 3083 and 3090's. They were given new numbers 9081,9083 and of course 9190? I guess shorter path lengths and such but couldn't find any details after a short search.

besides the 3830 disk controller RPQ ... the 3083 was 3081 with one of the processors removed (at the time, acp/tpf didn't have tightly-coupled multiprocessor support) that still wasn't competitive ... so there was 3083 with specialized channel microcode operation tailored to ACP/TPF operation. I'm not familiar something similar for 3090.

as mentioned 3081 technology wasn't competitive with clones:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

initial 3081D per processor throughput was suppose to be faster than 3033 ... but many benchmarks have it about 20% slower. 3081K doubled the cache and per processor was suppose to improve to 50% faster than 3033 ... but many benchmarks were same as 3033.

IBM 2-way multiprocessor technology from the period slowed the processor clock down by 10% to handle cross-cache activity. Going from 3081K to 3083K increased processor clock by nearly 15% (no multiprocessor clock slow-down) ... 3083 mostly done because all ACP/TPF customers might migrate to clone makers (since ACP/TPF didn't have multiprocessor support). Faster clock and tweaks for 3083jx got it up to 16% faster than 3081K (or supposedly almost 80% faster than 3033).

9083 had different I/O microcode load to bias for the typical higher channel i/o loads by ACP/TPF.

It is possible that they may have done something similar for 3090, but I don't recollect any details.

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American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare
Date: 24 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
American Gripen: The Solution To The F-35 Nightmare
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/22/american-gripen-the-solution-to-the-f-35-nightmare/

Russia's Sale Of It's S-400 Air Defense System To China Will Dramatically Alter The Military Balance In Asia
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.ca/2016/01/russias-sale-of-its-s-400-air-defense.html
How China's New Russian Air Defense System Could Change Asia
http://warontherocks.com/2016/01/how-chinas-new-russian-air-defense-system-could-change-asia/

multi-band not just russian (or chinese)

Terra - Israel's Strategic Multi-Radar System-of-Systems for Air- and Missile-Defense from IAI
http://defense-update.com/20151108_terra.html

from above:
Combining the long-range capabilities of the UHF radar and the high resolution offered by the S-band radars, Terra offers very long range and large volume search, accurate tracking and target classification for all object types - ballistic missiles, satellites and air breathing targets, including low Radar-Cross-Section (RCS) class (stealth) targets. In addition to target detection and tracking, Terra also provides accurate prediction of impact and launch point estimation.

... snip ...

more on s-400, f22, f35, stealth, etc
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2009-01.html

from above:
While the wideband AESA technology being developed for the Navy's Next Generation Jammer effort might be exploited, unlike the large F-22A which has airframe provisions for sidelooking AESA arrays, the Joint Strike Fighter design would require structural changes to make space available.

... snip ...

Latest generation high performance chips extract real-time (low RCS) target information from multi-band radar. Spring 2015, DOD restricted export of such chips. Last fall at supercomputer conference, Chinese showed that they had started producing their own. Large numbers are used in supercomputers (Chinese have the largest on the planet), in addition to various kinds of signal processing applications (like RADAR). Claims for latest generation such chips can reduce the F22 AESA 2000 transmit/recever pairs by a factor of nearly 100 times w/o loss of capability.

The underlying theme wasn't stealth or non-stealth ... but that the F-35 design was significantly compromised as cost reduction measure (?????) ... assuming F22 would be flying cover to handle high-threat adversaries. Latest I've seen is that they might now try adding signal jamming to F-35 ... but as noted elsewhere ... there is issue if there is space inside the airframe for such jamming hardware or will it have to be carried as external pod ... as well as does F35 have enough additional power to drive such jamming electronics.

Fast Forward 'Fast Transients': John Boyd, the F-22 and F-35 in 2016
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-131210-1.html
Straus Military Reform Project
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/
Military Reform
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/military-reform/
Ten Things You Should Know About the Air Force's F-35 Propaganda Effort
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/weapons/2015/ten-things-you-should-know-about-f-35.html

Boyd URL refs and posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

past posts mentioning f-35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#83 F111 related discussion x-over from Facebook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#86 F111 related discussion x-over from Facebook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#77 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#43 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#79 Innovation and iconoclasm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#42 Senator urges DoD: Do better job defending F-35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#49 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#52 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#34 Scotland, was Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#63 UAV vis-a-vis F35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#4 UAV vis-a-vis F35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#20 UAV vis-a-vis F35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#7 John R. Opel, RIP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#10 UAV vis-a-vis F35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#73 A question for the readership
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#142 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#41 The Heritage Foundation, Then and Now
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#42 Drones now account for one third of U.S. warplanes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#0 Happy Challenger Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#13 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#15 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#38 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#75 The Winds of Reform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#50 They're Trying to Block Military Cuts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#56 Update on the F35 Debate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#57 Pentagon to Withold Lockheed F-35 Payments Over Tracking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#0 Pentagon to Withold Lockheed F-35 Payments Over Tracking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#60 Memory versus processor speed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#73 Execution Velocity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#25 We are are on the brink of historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#72 Sunday Book Review: Mind of War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#25 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#55 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#68 'Gutting' Our Military
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#88 Defense acquisitions are broken and no one cares
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#85 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#30 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#19 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#24 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#45 Simulated PDP-11 Blinkenlight front panel for SimH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#50 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#64 Early use of the word "computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#78 Millennials have been plugged in pretty much since birth, which naturally means they'd be more adept at understanding the tech world than Gen X or even Baby Boomers, right?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#13 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#11 This Award Winning British Speed Boat May Be Iran's Fiercest Weapon Against The US Navy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#69 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#97 What a Caveman Can Teach You About Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#2 Quagmire on the Potomac
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#34 Search Google, 1960:s-style
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#62 America Is Basically Helpless Against The Chinese Hackers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#68 NBC's website hacked with malware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#45 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq, Sequestration and the U.S. Army
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#54 NBC's website hacked with malware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#64 NBC's website hacked with malware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#87 Not the Navy's Favorite Artist Rendering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#5 Lessons Learned from the Iraq War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#20 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#36 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#64 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#16 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#46 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#69 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#19 It was 30 Years Ago Today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#43 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#78 IBM commitment to academia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#101 Boyd Blasphemy: Justifying the F-35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#15 Boyd Blasphemy: Justifying the F-35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#40 The Wall Street Code: HFT Whisteblower Haim Bodek on Algorithmic Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#55 Behind the Pentagon's doctored ledgers, a running tally of epic waste
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#58 2 v 2 - How the Typhoon kills the F-35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#2 Did you see the one about the F-35 and F/A-18?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#28 ELP weighs in on the software issue:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#40 ELP weighs in on the software issue:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#63 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#54 Pensions, was Re: Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#82 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#0 Navy's F-35C Completes Landing Tests Ahead of October Sea Trials
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#1 If We Don't Keep The F-22 Raptor Viable, The F-35 Fleet Will Be Irrelevant'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#4 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#40 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#51 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#81 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#85 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#86 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#91 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#92 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#69 Littoral Warfare Ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#96 Lockheed Martin F-35 Jet's Software Delayed, GAO Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#98 The SEC Finally Takes an Interest in Collateralized Loan Obligations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#0 Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#1 Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#18 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#29 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#22 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#48 The Pentagon Is Playing Games With Its $570-Billion Budget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#51 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#38 Maneuver Warfare: German Experiences in WWII
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#49 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#65 New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#102 A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#8 Super Cane's Computers run Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#14 Super Cane's Computers run Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#40 China's Fifth-Generation Fighter Could Be A Game Changer In An Increasingly Tense East Asia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#41 50th/60th anniversary of SABRE--real-time airline reservations computer system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#43 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#51 Is coding the new literacy?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#3 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#6 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#84 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#8 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#62 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#68 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#13 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#15 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#48 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#100 OT: article on foreign outsourcing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#9 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#11 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#16 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#18 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#49 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#58 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#61 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#75 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#3 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#9 The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#14 With the U.S. F-35 Grounded, Putin's New Jet Beats Us Hands-Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#49 The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#67 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#20 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#21 Credit card fraud solution coming to America...finally
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#34 The joy of simplicity?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#42 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#43 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#44 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#45 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#46 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#51 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#58 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#77 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#78 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#81 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#8 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#16 Modern computer brochures; military security; then and now ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#60 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#79 New Smoking Gun: U.S. and UK KNEW Saddam Did NOT Possess WMDs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#117 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#50 Thanks Obama
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#57 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#59 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

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Pentagon to take over control of background investigation information

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Pentagon to take over control of background investigation information
Date: 24 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
Pentagon to take over control of background investigation information
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2016/01/22/pentagon-to-take-over-control-of-background-investigation-information/

References to background investigation had been outsourced last decade to (private-equity owned) for-profit companies in the private-equity mill are under enormous pressure to turn a dime every way possible. In the wake of the snowden (employed by a private-equity subsidiary) affair, they found that the private-equity subsidiaries doing security clearances were filling out the paper work ... but not actually doing the work. OPM's contractor also company in the private-equity mill

OPM Contractor's Parent Firm Has a Troubled History
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/24/opm-contractor-veritas/

and "Spies like Us"
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of the available manpower. They're not going away any time soon unless the CIA and NSA want to start over and with some off-the-shelf laptops, networked by the Geek Squad from Best Buy. Security clearances used to be a government function too, but are now a profit center for various private-equity subsidiaries.

... snip ...

turns out that they were just filling out the paper-work w/o actually doing the background checks (as way of boosting their bottom line)

AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then runs into trouble with RJR and hires away the AMEX president to turn around RJR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM has gone into the red and is in the process of being broken up into the 13 "baby blues". The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM. Uses some of same techniques at IBM that had been used at RJR
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

Later the former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of another large private-equity company which does LBO of company that will employ Snowden:
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Recent director of CIA left in disgrace is hired by KKR.

posts mentioning private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

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DEC and The Americans

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEC and The Americans
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers, comp.misc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:18:01 -0800
Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
The current 'cloud' is just yet another example of the pendulum swinging between "centralized computing resources" and "distributed computing resources[1]". It's happened before, it will happen again. The next 'thing' will look a bit different, and will obviously have a different _marketing_ name, but it is all the same-old same-old when looked at through the skeptical eye.

note necessarily strictly centralized ... but can be some degree of sharing (peaks & lows of useage can occur differently, online time-sharing from 60s was tracking peaks&lows across time-zones in the US, 10am peak on the east coast happened before west coast even started). The trade-off then is the overhead of shared processing versus not-needing to provision every non-shared resource for peak load.

Mainframe shared resources at the time of IBM/PC was also slow to track better price/performance technology ... IBM/PCs were tracking new technologies much faster than large mainframes.

Lots of clouds are now doing frequent turn-over of enormous numbers of "pc" grade technology ... as a trade-off between the two. Cloud volume has even gotten to the point where the "PC" technology makers are doing custom versions/chips specifically for that market. They have even optimized system costs to the point that power&environmental has become increasing dominate cost factor. Less & less system price/performance, but increasingly watts/performance ... it led to threats that big clouds would move to ARM (power use having been optimized for battery) ... until the I86 makers started paying more attention to watts/performance (systems can be throw-away when next generation saves them more in power than cost of system).

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Mainframe Virtual Memory

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Mainframe Virtual Memory
Date: 25 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
Lore is that tss/360 had 1100 people at time that science center had 11people doing cp67cms. They had originally done cp40cms on 360/40 that they did hardware changes for virtual memory. I had actually done lots of both os/360 and cp67/cms work in the 60s as undergraduate at university before joining science center. Science Center posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

Note original announce was 360/60, 360/62, 360/70. Before ship, memory was upgraded from 1mic to 750ns and model numbers change to 360/65, 360/67, and 360/75. Original 62/67 announce was 4-way and the channel director supported all four processors addressing all channels and all memory. Mostly two processor machines were built but at least one 3-way was built which included dynamic hardware reconfiguration under software control (to handle failing components). some multiprocessor posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

Other lore, FS effort in early 70s was completely different from 360/370 and was going to replace it. Internal politics was killing off 370 stuff, which is credited with giving clone processors market foothold (I continued to work on 360/370 stuff during the period and periodically ridicule FS, which wasn't exactly career enhancing). When FS finally implodes, there is made rush to get products back into 370 pipeline. Q&D 3033 and 3081/XA efforts are kicked off in parallel. The head of POK also convinces corp. to kill vm370 and transfer all the people to POK or otherwise he can't meet mvs/xa schedule, FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Endicott eventually manages to save vm370 product mission but has to rebuild development group from scratch. Customer online VMSHARE discussion groups have comments about vm370 code quality in this period in the 70s and early 80s. TYMSHARE started providing their CMS-based online computer conferencing for free to SHARE starting in AUG1976 ... archive here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

Original OS/VS2 implementation was done by Ludlow on 360/67. The majority of the code involved adding ccw translation to EXCP. Ludlow borrowed the code from CP67 "CCWTRANS" for the implementation ... hooking it into EXCP

Melinda has loads of history here
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

370 virtual memory had loads more feature/function ... but there were loads of problems retrofitting hardware to 165. In order to not have big schedule slip in announce, they dropped lots of features. Software already written to use the dropped features had to be redesigned and rewritten to only use the 165 subset

Somewhat like Michigan and MTS, Stanford did its own virtual memory operating system for 360/67 ... which is where WYLBUR was originally implemented before porting to os/360

We are currently having discussion in ibmmain list about lots of this
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/AafkVOM2DOg
and
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/LUhlUJ9T0r4
and
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/WkPmrzZauE0

archived posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#52 Compile error
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#54 Compile error
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#56 Compile error
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#58 Man Versus System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#61 Compile error
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#63 Lineage of TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#64 Where do you place VSE?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#65 Lineage of TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#66 Lineage of TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#67 Lineage of TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#68 Lineage of TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#74 Lineage of TPF

Virtual memory was originally justified for all 370s because MVT storage management was so bad ... regions typically needed to be four times larger than they actually used ... typical 1mbyte 370/165 only ran 4 regions. With DAT, could run 15 regions on same hardware and have almost no paging

os/360, os/vs2 are heavily pointer passing API's ... i.e. system calls and other calls needed called routine in same address space. That is why MVS had to map 8mbyte kernel image in every application (16mbyte) virtual address space. Then subsystem (in different address space) required 1mbyte common segment area in every virtual address space (for parameter passing). Common segment requirements are somewhat proportional to number of concurrent applications and number of subsystems and morphs into common system area ... frequently 3-5 mbytes leaving only 3-5mbytes for applications. Before 31bit XA some customers were facing requirements for 8mbyte CSA, leaving nothing for applications

picture comes from this about MTS & dataconcentrator done with DEC processor (trivia, person later goes on and does "time" protocol for the internet)
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery7.html
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/gallery/gallery8.html

other trivia: at the univ. I tried to make enhancements to cp67 terminal support that would have the 2702 terminal controller do something it couldn't quite do. This was part of motivation started a clone terminal controller project, initially based on Interdata/3 ... later evolving into Interdata/4 for the channel interface and cluster of Interdata/3s for line/port scanners. Four of us get written up as responsible (for some part of) clone controller business. Interdata markets it as commerical product to customers, later PE buys Interdata and it is marketed under Perkin-Elmer name. posts mentioning clone controllers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

Virtual memory was originally justified for all 370s because MVT storage management was so bad ... regions typically needed to be four times larger than they actually used ... typical 1mbyte 370/165 only ran 4 regions. With DAT, could run 15 regions on same hardware and have almost no paging

Several years ago I was asked by customer to track down more history about 370 move to virtual memory ... this is posting of reply from somebody involved (who recently passed):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73

We did similar at SJR that tracked disk record and virtual memory use running under vm370. It was used for modeling paging and disk controller caches. A super fast real-time reduction was done of disk record accesses. There was some investigation of adding it to all operating systems to support optimized real-time reorganization of filesystems

Past couple days we've been having related discussion in ibm-main mailing list. Several times I've mentioned highlighting relative system I/O performance slowed down tremendously during the 70s, in the early 80s I was saying that relative system disk i/o performance degrading by order of magnitude between the 60s and early 80s (processor & memory got 40-50 times faster, disk only got 3-5 times faster). Some disk executive took exception and assigned the division performance group to refute my statements. They work on it for a couple weeks and come back and effectively say I slightly understated the problem (respun it turns into SHARE presentation on how to configure disks for better throughput). past referring to getting to play disk engineer in bldgs14&15
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

As undergraduate in the 60s at the univ. I did a lot of work on global LRU page replacement (for cp67) ... this was at a time when local LRU papers were dominating academic literature. Later in the early 70s, Grenoble Science Center modified CP67 to conform to local LRU literature and published in CACM. Grenoble had 1mbyte 360/67 with 165 4k pages after fixed storage and Cambridge had 768kbyte 360/67 with 104 4k pages (after fixed storage). Cambridge with 80users had better throughput, performance and response (with global LRU) than Grenoble had with 35users (with local LRU, even tho they had 50% more pageable storage).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock

After Jim Gray leaves SJR (and palms off some amount of DBMS) and goes to Tandem, at the next SIGOPS he asks if I can help a co-worker at Tandem who is trying to get Stanford PHD involving global LRU algorithms. It turns out that some academic Local LRU forces were aggressively trying to block awarding the PHD and Jim knew I had real live data showing local/global LRU comparison. Then IBM San Jose Research management steps in and blocks my providing the information for nearly a year. Now I had been blamed for online computer conferencing (sort of precusor to social networking) on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about beginning until sometime mid-80s) in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the corporate executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. I was hoping that SJR management thought they were punishing me (for the network stuff) ... rather than taking sides in the Local/Global LRU academic dispute.

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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:31:04 -0800
hancock4 writes:
I believe Eisenhower knew, as a result of the U-2 spy flights, was that the Soviets weren't as militarily as strong as we suspected, but he couldn't say anything.

however, DOD/MICC was pushing the bomber gap and requested a 20% increase in DOD budget to close the bomber gap ... Eisenhower knew from the U-2 spy flts that the "bomber gap" was pure MICC fabrication. wiki reference to "bomber gap" fabrication
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomber_gap
past posts about the "bomber gap" fabrication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#80 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#18 Air Superiority: Advantage over enemy skies for 60 years
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#54 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#52 US Army hopes to replace 25% of soldiers with robots by 2040
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#54 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#22 $40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay

it probably isn't a coincidence that "Team B"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
fabrication about soviet threat in the 70s&80s and then "team b" involved in the WMD fabrication last decade.

it contributed to Eisenhower in his goodby speech warning about the military-industrial complex (evidence is that he intended to say military-industrial-congressional complex but he shortened it at the last moment). MICC posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

past posts mentioning Eisenhower warning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#8 Ruminating on Strategic Thinking II. : Social Conditions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#63 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#68 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#75 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#51 Is this Boyd's fundamental postulate, 'to improve our capacity for independent action'? thoughts please
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#19 SnOODAn: Boyd, Snowden, and Resilience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#87 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#2 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#28 Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#20 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#32 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#50 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#51 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#54 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#13 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#55 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#72 In Command, but Out Of Control
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#73 Wylie discernible patterns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#14 Microsoft, IBM lobbying seen killing key anti-patent troll proposal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#37 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#81 Eisenhower's military-industrial warning rings truer than ever
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#82 The NSA and Snowden: Securing the All-Seeing Eye
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#93 Oligarchy Controls U.S. War-Making
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#22 $40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#104 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#90 Is IBM Suddenly Vulnerable To A Takeover?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#132 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#178 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#68 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#42 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#60 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#47 Thanks Obama

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:36:11 -0800
Google agrees to pay British authorities GBP130m in back taxes
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/22/google-agrees-to-pay-hmrc-130m-in-back-taxes

Heavy equipment makers in US would sell directly in the US and ship in the US. Then they (and others) came up with a gimmick to sell at cost to subsidiary distributor in Luxembourg. The Luxembourg subsidiary then sells to customers in the US (and all the profit is booked in Luxembourg) ... however, they continue to ship directly from US plant to US customers:
http://www.icij.org/project/luxembourg-leaks

there is still estimate of $30T or so held offshore

posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

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DEC and The Americans

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEC and The Americans
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:58:33 -0800
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
In 1982 the FBI could have had glass TTY as terminals. RS232 links to the computer.

story about another agency that was heavy glass-teletype in the early 80s. IBM was coming out with 3081 that was multiprocessor only ... but there was problem with ACP/TPF operating system not having multiprocessor support. Several releases of vm370 then had some unnatural things done to it to improve ACP/TPF operation under VM370 on multiprocessor ... but it degraded throughput for nearly all other customers. At the same time, they did some optimization for 3270 terminal I/O which helped mask the ACP/TPF change degradation (for customers that were heavily 3270) .... however ASCII terminal customers were exposed to the full effect of the degradation.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#email830420

reference to agencies being heavily virtual machine based ... going back to cp67 in the 60s (gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

this is email by Jim Gray talking about the 3830 disk controller "locking" ACP RPQ ... but also mentions the number of ACP/TPF customers & systems.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#email800325

Part of the ACP/TPF issue was that clone makers continued to make faster single processor machines and there was concern that the whole ACP/TPF market would move to clone processors. Eventually they got around to offerring 3083 which was 3081 with one of the processors removed. However, there were other issues with 3081 technology comparing poorly with clone processor makers ... discussed here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

and they did all sorts of tweaks for 3083 trying to improve competitivenes ... eventually including a custom channel microcode load tailored for ACP/TPF operation ... marketed as 9083
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#18 Mail system scalability (Was: Re: Itanium troubles)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#65 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#66 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#67 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#30 As Internet turns 40, barriers threaten its growth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#39 ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#1 ZeuS attacks mobiles in bank SMS bypass scam
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#62 vm/370 3081
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#67 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#74 Lineage of TPF

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DEC and The Americans

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEC and The Americans
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:41:39 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Could someone explain "tightly coupled" vs. "loosely coupled" vs. simply having two separate machines, shared disks, and a split workload?

(A few years later they replaced the 158 with a 30xx box, but I don't recall what. The new machine was still maxed out as they added more applications to it.)


tightly-coupled from 360/65 days were two processors that shared memory .... but had their own dedicated private channels. IBM simulated shared i/o configuration by having controllers with two-channel switch ... so they were connected to two channels, one for channel connected to each processor. It had the characteristic that the shared memory could be disabled and the two processors operated independently as two separate single processor systems.

however, 360/67 multiprocessor (tightly-coupled) did have "channel controller" that allowed processors to share both memory as well as all sharing channels (all processors addressing all channels), but had the capability to configure complex as independent single processor machines with dedicated memory and channels).

loosely-coupled were independent systems (no shared memory) that shared devices .... via having channels connected to controllers with capability for connecting to multiple channels.

my wife had been in the gburg JES group ... she was one of the catchers for ASP turning it into JES3. She was also co-author for JESUS (JES unified system) which included features from JES2 (i.e. HASP) and JES3 that the respective customers couldn't live w/o (for various reasons never shipped). posts mentioning HASP, JES2, NJE/NJI, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

she was then con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture. While there she did peer-coupled shared data architecture ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

she didn't remain very long because of 1) little uptake except for IMS hotstandby (until SYSPLEX&parallel SYSPLEX nearly decades later) and 2) constant battles with communication group trying to force her into using SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled operation.

in the mid-70s, they introduced "attached processor" tightly-coupled for 370/158 & 370/168 ... it was standard two processors shared memory where the 2nd processor didn't have any dedicated channels (purely processor capacity and not able to be partitioned into two independently operating single processor systems).

after the failure of the FS effort ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

there was mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline. This included POK kicking off the Q&D 303x and 3081/xa efforts in parallel ... some discussion here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

3033 started out being 168-3 logic mapped to 20% faster chips. Also the integrated channel microcode from 370/158 was moved into a separate dedicated channel box. A 3031 was two 370/158 engines, a 370/158 engine with just the 370 microcode and no integrated microcode and a 2nd 370/158 engine with the integrated channel microcode (and no 370 microcode). A 3032 was a 370/168 tweaked to use the 370/158 integrated channel box as external channels. A 3033 then was 168-3 logic remapped to 20% faster chips and one or more 370/158 integrated channel microcode boxes. 370/158 integrated channel microcode provided support for six channels. To have a system with 16 channels reguired three 370/158 integrated channel microcode boxes.

3081 (as memo125.htm describes) started out being a multiprocessor box only (until they were forced to do 3083 with one processor removed). 3081 was referred to as dyadic (two processors) to differentiate it from the earler "tightly-coupled" designation ... because it wasn't able to partition it into two independent operating (single-processor) systems.

posts mentioning SMP, multiprocessor, tightly-coupled, also compare&swap instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

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DEC and The Americans

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEC and The Americans
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:26:39 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Thanks for the explanation.

Did the "attached processor" on the 158 make a significant improvement in throughput performance?

I don't recall the specific details other than the 158 was maxed out, meaning program compilation and testing had to be done during offpeak hours. Response time was slow, although that may have been, in part due to relatively low speed analog comm lines supporting many terminals off of a single line. I _think_ the data rate was 4800, synchronous, on private "conditioned" lines. (Soon afterwards, they went to 9600, then went to digital. Digital lines took some effort to become reliable.)

Also, back then, overall reliability wasn't so great, for a variety of reasons--CICS crash, comm line failure, remote modem/controller failure, central comm controller crash, CPU crash, etc.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#77 DEC and The Americans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#81 DEC and The Americans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#82 DEC and The Americans

the issue is what software. standard IBM mainframe cache two-processor system slowed the processor cycle down by 10% to allow for cross-cache signalling (and any actual cross-cache signalling slowed things down further) ... so two processor hardware starts out only 1.8 times a single processor. Then if the operating system had lots of lock contention and other multiprocessor coordination ... it further reduced effective throughput. MVS on 370s in the 70s claimed muiltiprocessor throughput 1.3-1.5 times single processor.

I had done some slight of hand for vm370 multiprocessor throughput that had extremely low lock contention and multiprocessor coordination overhead. In cache machines, typical MIPS rate is based on some expected cache miss rate, high-cache miss rate results in much lower MIPS/throughput than the nominal announced MIP rate ... and very low cache miss rate will have higher than nominal announced MIP rate.

I had some attached-processor configurations that had run 100% CPU utilization and relatively high I/O rate before adding the 2nd processor. Asynchronous I/O interrupts involved displaying application cache contents with device driver cache contents (very high instantaneous cache miss rates) ... and then switching back to running appliction reversed the process, replacing device driver cache contents with application cache contents (again very high cache miss rates) ... all of which much lower measured MIPS rate and throughput. The applications code running on the 2nd processor now had much higher MIPS rate and throughput (because there was no longer the asynchronous I/O interrupts. The processor with channels & I/O interrupts frequently had higher throughput also .... since it periodically effectively batched several I/O interrupts in sequence, while device driver code still remained in cache, significantly improving its cache-hit rate, MIPS-rate and throughput.

The very low operating system multiprocessor overhead plus careful management of the cache effects could get more than twice the throughput of a single processor (from hardware that nominally was only 1.8 times that of a single processor) ... compared to the 1.3-1.5 times experienced by MVS users.

past posts mentioning SMP, shared-memory, multiprocessor, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

Note that CICS didn't get multiprocessor support until 2004. Original CICS implementation was single task/process and then did its own finegrain task multithreading within the CICS environment. To take advantage of more powerful computers and multiple processors ... customers started running multiple CICS instances (each as its own independent operating system task). Early in the century ... an outsorucer that ran the dataprocessing backend that managed cable tv settop boxes for most of the cable countries in the US ... was running over 120 CICS instances on a single (multiprocessor) machine.

past posts mentioning CICS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics

trivia ... as undergraduate in the 60s, I got hired fulltime by the univ. to support their production IBM mainframe. The univ. library got an ONR grant to do online catelogue and used part of the money to get 2321 datacell. The project was also selected to be one of the betatest sites for the original CICS program product ... and I got to do a lot of debugging of the betatest CICS code.

Some of the history from CICS site ... gone 404, but lives on at the wayback machine:

The Evolution of CICS: CICS and Multi-region Operation (1980)
http://web.archive.org/web/20040705000349/http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev198001.htm
The Evolution of CICS: CICS and Multiprocessor Exploitation (2004)
http://web.archive.org/web/20041023110006/http://www.yelavich.com/history/ev200402.htm

webpage
http://web.archive.org/web/20050509233156/http://www.yelavich.com/

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:53:59 -0800
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
The bigger problem was the hypocrites who questioned him. They had mistresses, and girl friends, etc.

there was undercurrent that the whole thing really was "Kabuki Theater" by all parties concerned.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 07:48:24 -0800
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
IMHO, n-dimensional models would help reveal sources of complexity that might be dealt with reasonably rather than with the blunt knife of left/right. (That's assuming that people with the wits to do such modeling want reasonablness rather than success at outsmarting the other guys, winning or making a buck.)

sharp divide between two parties frequently obfuscation and misdirection for the populace ... more "Kabuki Theater" past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:29:44 -0800
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

Taliban               Oppression
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note that is just part of it ... there is claims Prescott Bush helping Hitler's & Fascism rise to power (along with John Foster Dulles & others)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

then his son is selected for replacement CIA director because he would go along with Team B analysis,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
then while VP, claims he knows nothing about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

then the grandson involved in fabricating WMDs justifying Iraq invasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

... but also presides over the economic mess, 70 times larger than the S&L crisis (there were 1,000 criminal convictions in the S&L crisis, proportionally there should have been 70,000 criminal convictions for the economic mess ... but there has been ZERO).

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:05:48 -0800
hancock4 writes:
Many highways today were built 50-60 years ago, and as a result of population growth, carry far more traffic than they were engineered to do. As a result, a road that perhaps was 70 mph when built years ago has to be 55 mph because of the traffic load on it.

claim is that there is a trillion or two deficit in infrastructure maintenance ... including raods which can affect what is now safe.

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The Pentagon's Pricey Culture of Mediocrity

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Pentagon's Pricey Culture of Mediocrity
Date: 29 Jan 2016
Blog: Facebook
The Pentagon's Pricey Culture of Mediocrity
http://warisboring.com/articles/the-pentagons-pricey-culture-of-mediocrity/

In Pentagon Wars, Burton details enormous graft and corruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars#Historical_background

Corrupt from top to bottom
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/03/books/corrupt-from-top-to-bottom.html?pagewanted=1

The Pentagon Wars URL reference was to "history", reform movement, A10 & F16 ... and in the book, Burton's proposal for A-10 followon with five barrel gun.

I hadn't intended it to be a Bradley reference ... however, I had a son-in-law driving Bradley in Desert Storm ... and another son-in-law that was foot-patrol Fallujah 2004-2005 and then Bradley in Baqubah 2007-2008 (described as much worse than Fallujah). One of the problems in Baqubah was that they were loosing so many Bradleys (and Abram M1s) that they were getting moth-balled Bradley-DS (from desert storm). My son-in-law mentioned that he went to all sort of heroic efforts to keep his (newer) Bradley operational (cannabalizing all sorts of parts from the junk yard) ... rather than having to accept Bradley-DS (also Abrams were so vulnerable, that they tried to sweep the route before taking one out).
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Baqubah-Killing-Our-ebook/dp/B007VBBS9I/

loc5243-54:
I saw other Bradleys and M1 Abrams main battle tanks, the pride of the 1st Cavalry Division -- vehicles that, if back at Fort Hood, would be parked meticulously on line, tarps tied tight, gun barrels lined up, track line spotless, not so much as a drop of oil on the white cement. What I saw that day was row after row of mangled tan steel as if in a junkyard that belonged to Satan himself.

... snip ...

more recent analysis of (pentagon & procurement) corrupt from top to bottom (again from reform movement members):
http://dnipogo.org/labyrinth/
• identify the decay - moral, mental and physical - in America's defenses,
• understand the various "tribes" that run bureaucratic life in the Pentagon,
• appreciate what too many defense journalists are not doing, but should,
• conduct first rate national security oversight instead of second rate theater,
• separate careerists from ethical professionals in senior military and civilian ranks,
• learn to critique strategies, distinguishing the useful from the agenda-driven,
• recognize the pervasive influence of money in defense decision-making,
• unravel the budget games the Pentagon and Congress love to play,
• understand how to sort good weapons from bad - and avoid high cost failures, and
• reform the failed defense procurement system without changing a single law.


... snip ...

disclaimer: some people mistake me for a Boyd acolyte because I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings and know some number of the (real) acolytes.

military-industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military-induxtrial-complex

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 09:59:15 -0800
mausg writes:
AFAIK, Trump's appeal is that he is sort of an anti-politician. Trump will probably be the Republican candidate, Hilary will probaly win. Some Russian said. "It dosn't matter who gets the most votes, it matters who counts them"

A Saudi Prince Burns Donald Trump
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/a-saudi-prince-burns-donald-trump

Fed Bails Out Rich Arabs in Citigroup Deal
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/fed-bails-out-rich-arabs-in-citigroup-deal/
Some of the details are available on Alwaleed's website. "Perhaps no single transaction has catapulted Prince Alwaleed to the world's financial stage in as spectacular a fashion as did his acquisition in 1991 of Citibank (subsequently, Citigroup) stocks," notes his website. "Few people could then imagine that a Saudi Arabian, and a royal at that, would burst onto the international scene, seemingly out of nowhere, to invest so heavily in one of the major banks of the world and to help restore it to such health that it would become the leading financial institution in the world."

... snip ...

part of long-winded post from 1999,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

note that ARM mortgage portfolio is similar to the Securitized ARM mortgages
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

that play significant role in economic mess last decade:
A risk manager must also calculate the credit risk profile of each ARM along a particular interest rate curve for a complete valuation process to be accurate. Hence each dimension of risk management is calculated in the risk measurement valuation process. When institutions began to create financial models measuring the entire individual transaction level detail of their portfolios they discovered the gapping error. No one could predict a) the multitude of embedded options that were going unmeasured across an organizations entire balance sheet, b) the individual portfolio behavioral characteristics of these embedded options, c) the unmeasured aggregate earnings impact of these options across a multitude of interest rate scenarios. In one example, Citicorp failed to recognize that a 2% rising rate phase would cause an 80% loss of core holding company earnings. If the cycle was to occur for an extended period Citicorp would fail. This discovery caused Citicorp to get out of the mortgage business in 1989. At the time the company was the largest player in the mortgage market. Coincidentally, Citicorp's stock traded at an all time low of $ 6.00/share and needed a private bailout to continue functioning as an entity.

... snip ...

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 10:40:31 -0800
Sanders out polls Trump
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

just looking at party polls, somebody calculated that polling of just democrates against polling of just republicans, that sander's percent of democrates comes to 50% more people than trump's percent of republicans.

also

Poll: Sanders outperforms Clinton in matchup against Trump
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-sanders-outperforms-clinton-matchup-against-trump

part of the issue is that primary republican party polls and primary democratic party polls ... will leave out lots of unaffiliated voters. Both absolute numbers of democrates for both Sanders and Clinton can beat absolute numbers of of republicans for trump. And polls of just democrates can show Sanders Clinton neck&neck ... while polls of all voters can show Sanders doing significantly better against Trump than Clinton would do.

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:12:02 -0800
Tories lobbying to protect Google's GBP30bn island tax haven
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/30/google-tory-battle-protect-30bn-tax-haven-bermuda
The revelation follows widespread condemnation of the "sweetheart" deal struck between HMRC and Google that saw the internet giant agree to pay only GBP130m in back taxes on the estimated GBP7.2bn that it earned in profits over the past decade.

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misc Bermuda refs

OECD's tax crackdown calls for global profit reporting
http://www.icij.org/blog/2014/09/oecds-tax-crackdown-calls-global-profit-reporting
Caterpillar Inc., U.S. Government Debt and Offshore Tax Havens
http://www.icij.org/blog/2012/08/caterpillar-inc-us-government-debt-and-offshore-tax-havens
Lawyers and Accountants Help Rich Manage Their Money
http://www.icij.org/offshore/trusted-service-provider-blends-invisible-offshore-world
Mega-Rich Use Tax Havens to Buy and Sell Masterpieces
http://www.icij.org/offshore/mega-rich-use-tax-havens-buy-and-sell-masterpieces
Canadian Senator's Husband Shifted Money Into Offshore Tax Havens
http://www.icij.org/offshore/canadian-senators-husband-shifted-money-offshore-tax-havens
Companies grilled by EU politicians over tax dodging
http://www.icij.org/blog/2015/11/companies-grilled-eu-politicians-over-tax-dodging
The Swiss Lawyers Who Help Europe's Richest Families Park Their Wealth Offshore
http://www.icij.org/offshore/swiss-lawyers-who-help-europes-richest-families-park-their-wealth-offshore

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:03:20 -0800
Tories lobbying to protect Google's GBP30bn island tax haven
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/30/google-tory-battle-protect-30bn-tax-haven-bermuda

from above:
The revelation follows widespread condemnation of the "sweetheart" deal struck between HMRC and Google that saw the internet giant agree to pay only GBP130m in back taxes on the estimated GBP7.2bn that it earned in profits over the past decade.

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Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens, pg216/loc4511-14:
Plenty of good firms have gone bust as a result of this offshore debt-loading, which the New York Times in 2009 described as "a Wall Street version of 'Flip This House.'" 48 More than half of the companies that defaulted on their debt that year were either previously or currently owned by private equity firms.

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Private-equity company flipping, take out a loan to buy a company, put the loan on the company's books, loot the company and then sell it. They can even sell the company for much less than they paid and walk away with boat loads of money, since the original loans stays with the sold company (none of these bad loans affect the rating of the private-equity company).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

long detailed discussion about as British empire was breaking up after W2 ... certain locals wanting to stay under british protection ... and cooperated with the city of london setting up tax havens. major center was the city of london but various things went on in these other jurisdictions, pg71/loc1477-79:

The City's nine thousand-odd human residents have one vote each in municipal elections here. But businesses in the City vote too, as if they were human, with thirty-two thousand corporate votes. 25 In effect, Goldman Sachs, the Bank of China, Moscow Narodny Bank, and KPMG can vote in a hugely important British election.

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post mentioning tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

posts mentioning "trasure islands":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#26 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#60 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#60 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#66 NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales In China
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#2 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#56 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#94 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 17:05:29 -0800
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list with other banks?

some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

as noticed elsewhere some of the victims have been the large private & public pension funds ... where there may also be bonuses&commissions involved.

Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job

there is also the ongoing saga of CALPERS:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/02/sue-calpers-denial-private-equity-public-records-act-request.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/03/calpers-private-equity-scandals-steptoe-johnson-report-whitewash.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/08/calpers-rescinds-700-million-investment-private-equity-fund-headed-doctor-private-equity-experience.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/gretchen-morgenson-damage-private-equity-secrecy-mention-calpers-suit.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/private-equity-consultants-flounder-question-abusive-evergreen-fees-calpers-board-meeting.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/investors-like-calpers-and-new-york-city-in-the-dark-about-private-equity-fees.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/06/top-private-equity-reporter-calpers-is-either-lying-or-has-a-massive-breakdown-in-financial-controls.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/california-state-treasurer-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-reporting-lapse-after-nc-readers-press-him.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/calpers-scrambles-to-get-private-equity-carry-fee-info-after-we-break-story-that-they-had-no-clue-what-they-were-paying.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/leading-pension-consultant-pca-shills-for-private-equity-firms-in-calperscalstrs-carry-fee-row.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/senior-private-equity-officers-at-calpers-do-not-understand-how-the-general-partners-make-money.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-state-chief-investment-officer-tells-calpers-and-calstrs-to-fire-consultant-pca-over-proposed-fix-for-poor-private-equityperformance.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/fortunes-dan-primack-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-scandal-calls-head-of-private-equity-factually-wrong.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/how-calpers-consultant-pension-consulting-alliance-is-more-loyal-to-private-equity-than-its-clients.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/mission-impossible-star-alec-baldwin-retweets-yves-post-on-calpers-capture-by-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/the-larger-implications-of-calpers-staff-and-board-incompetence-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/after-nc-media-coverage-of-calpers-and-calstrs-private-equity-fee-lapses-treasurer-john-chiang-calls-for-legislation.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/oxford-professor-schools-calpers-contrary-to-board-presentation-private-equity-is-most-expensive-asset-class-by-far.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/harvard-professor-josh-lerner-gives-weak-and-internally-contradictory-plug-for-private-equity-at-calpers-workshop.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/the-bigger-significance-of-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-release-another-nail-in-the-carried-interest-tax-loophole-coffin.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-fails-to-use-its-leverage-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-violated-california-open-meeting-laws-to-stifle-private-equity-skeptics.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/more-on-how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/our-bloomberg-op-ed-on-calpers-plan-to-get-rid-of-private-equity-risk-by-ignoring-it.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-discuss-private-equity-calpers-and-its-tainted-counsel-on-harry-shearers-le-show-this-sunday.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-won-a-fight-against-calpers-over-its-plan-to-ignore-private-equity-risk.html

other CALPERS
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2506775-to-calpers-go-small-and-go-young-or-get-out
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2688805-is-calpers-a-canary-in-the-coal-mine
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/04/18/CalPers-Admits-52-Underfunding-on-986-billion-Shortfall
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-calpers-officers-propose-lower-investment-targets-wsj-2015-10
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/corruption-again-calpers-keeping-lobbying-records-secret-from-its-board-members/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/06/calpers-demonstrates-commitment-operating-bad-faith-public-records-act-requests-keen-hide-bad-records.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/former-calpers-ceo-pleads-guilty-bribery-fraud-including-taking-cash-paper-bags.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/orange-county-register-attacks-lack-public-pension-fund-transparency-cites-suit-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/sacramento-bee-reports-on-calpers-fee-lapses.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/california-readers-catch-on-kpfa-this-friday-at-730-am-discussing-calpers-and-calstrs.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/financial-times-joins-the-party-on-calpers-and-links-to-naked-capitalism.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-staff-and-board-for-misconduct.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/wsjs-carried-interest-comic-strip-mocks-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-for-betrayal-of-trust-in-hiring-scandal-ridden-fiduciary-counsel.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/san-diego-union-tribune-editorial-attacks-calpers-over-half-hearted-plan-to-lower-return-targets.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/the-twelve-days-of-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/01/why-is-calpers-understating-its-cost-of-investing-in-private-by-roughly-1-6-billion-meaning-80.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/first-calpers-now-texas-teachers-cut-hedge-fund-exposure

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 18:48:35 -0800
other private-equity trivia

claim is that industry got such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis, that they changed the industry name to "private-equity" (and junk bonds become high-yield bonds).

I've periodically mentioned that AMEX was in competition with KKR to do private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then runs into trouble and hires away president of AMEX to turn it around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM has gone into the red and is in the process of being broken up into the 13 "baby blues". The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM. Uses some of same techniques at IBM that had been used at RJR
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

Later the former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of another large private-equity company which does private-equity take-over (among others) of company that will employ Snowden:
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of the available manpower. They're not going away any time soon unless the CIA and NSA want to start over and with some off-the-shelf laptops, networked by the Geek Squad from Best Buy. Security clearances used to be a government function too, but are now a profit center for various private-equity subsidiaries.

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especially when they get paid for doing background checks but just fillout paperwork and skip the checks (private-equity victim companies are under heavy pressure to generate revenue).

'This was all planned': Former IG says Hillary, State Dept. are lying
http://nypost.com/2016/01/31/this-was-all-planned-former-ig-says-hillary-state-dept-are-lying/
Even if they accept the referral, he says, the case quickly and quietly will be plea-bargained down to misdemeanors punisable by fines in a deal similar to the one Clinton's lawyer, David Kendall, secured for Gen. David Petraeus. In other words, a big slap on the wrist.

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trivia ... Petreaus is hired by KKR when he resigns as director of CIA in disgrace.

private-equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
president of AMEX posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

and Bush1 as VP in the 80s was full-time(?) administration point-person deregulating financial industry creating S&L crisis ... then Bush2 as president last decade presides over economic mess, 70 times larger than S&L crisis (S&L crisis had 1,000 criminal convictions, proportionally, there should be 70,000 criminal convictions for economic mess, but there have been NONE).

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:25:55 -0800
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
These deals eventually become bonds don't they? And it is not a done deal until those bonds are sold at retail? It seems to me that the scenario above should result in a class action suit against the rating agency. With any reasonable definition they are a central and necessary element of committing what is obviously fraud.

Televised Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that rating agencies played in the economic mess ... selling triple-A ratings on toxic CDOs was significant factor in being able to do over $27T from 2001 to 2008 ... testimony was that both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't triple-A. TV commentators made reference that the rating agencies will never be prosecuted because the rating agencies can blackmail the gov. with the threat of downgrading the US credit rating.
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

posts mentioning (triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

there has been some recent settlements fining the sellers for misrepresenting the quality of what was being sold last decade, ... but no mention of the rating agencies.

more testimony was that the rating agency business model had become misaligned when they switched from the buyers paying for the ratings to the sellers paying for the ratings (so their interest was providing a rating that gained the sellers the most money). Some reference that it is enormously harder to regulate business that is incented to do the wrong thing because business process is misaligned.

Later in Jan2009, when there was still facade that TARP funds were for purchasing the off-book toxic assets, there was brief mention of one of the original 60s virtual machine based online commercial service bureaus (that had moved upstream into all sorts of financial services) would be helping value these toxic assets. It turns out when the rating agencies were switching their business model to sellers paying for the rating ... the service bureau had bought the pricing services division from one of the major rating agencies.

Of course the TARP facade didn't last long ... in part because only $700B had been appropriated and just the four largest too big to fail were still carrying $5.2T "off-book" at the end of 2008 (TARP could have never even remotely fixed that problem) ... $700B could never have bought enough at face value ... and what had been sold was going at 22cents on the dollar ("mark to market"), if bought at that price all would have been declared insolvement and forced to liquidate.

TARP was then used for what it was possibly always intended ... originally the triple-A rating allowed them to unload toxic assets w/o carrying about quality ... but then they found that they could design toxic assets designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victims, and take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail. The largest holder of these CDS gambling bets, AIG was negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the sec. of treasury steps in and forces them to sign document that they can't sue those making the bets and take TARP funds to pay off at 100cents on the dollar. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG, and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the firm formally headed by the sec. of treasury.

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Thanks Obama

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 00:03:50 -0800
TV showed chart today that Iowa caucus doubled the number of democrats in 2008 (compared to 2004) and almost all new members went to Obama, number of caucus members doubled again in 2012 ... and projecting if Sanders can get out new members for another doubling, he would win (repeat of 2008 against Clinton).

It also showed something similar happening for Republicans, doubling caucus members 2008 from 2004 and double again 2012 from 2008 ... however, in each of those years, the total Republican caucus members were only half the Democratic caucus members.

That goes along with earlier news that Trumps percentage of national Republicans is much less than Sanders percentage of national Democrats (and Sanders beating Trump by more than Clinton beating Trump).

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Obama
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 10:11:31 -0800
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
TV showed chart today that Iowa caucus doubled the number of democrats in 2008 (compared to 2004) and almost all new members went to Obama, number of caucus members doubled again in 2012 ... and projecting if Sanders can get out new members for another doubling, he would win (repeat of 2008 against Clinton).

It also showed something similar happening for Republicans, doubling caucus members 2008 from 2004 and double again 2012 from 2008 ... however, in each of those years, the total Republican caucus members were only half the Democratic caucus members.

That goes along with earlier news that Trumps percentage of national Republicans is much less than Sanders percentage of national Democrats (and Sanders beating Trump by more than Clinton beating Trump).


however, national news rarely reports such things.

Such things are common; griftopia had chapter on CFTC use to have a rule that players were required to have significant position because speculators resulted in wild irrational price swings; then CFTC sends out 19 secret letters allowing specific speculators to play ... results include the enormous spike in oil the summer of 2008 (and resulting huge gas prices). griftopia posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#griftopia

Later Sanders releases the transaction details showing the specific speculators responsible for the enormous spike in oil price ... and the press lambasts him for violating corporate privacy ... what happened to investigating reporting? Things seem to be outside US ... the CBS 60min segment last night on money laundering (in the US) was done by organization in UK ... past posts mentioning money laundering (especially the too big to fail repeatedly caught money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists and not being criminally prosecuted)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
too big to fail (& too big to prosecute and too big to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

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Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 11:29:02 -0800
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
And _that_ is the whole point. Yes, reduced visibility can happen without warning - say if, instead of fog, it's smoke from a local fire, for example, which hasn't made the news yet.

But if you slam on the brakes _and the person following you is too close_ then he can't brake in time to avoid a collision. Tailgating is, though, almost universal on the roads - the driving manuals say one is supposed to allow enough distance between oneself and the vehicle ahead so that one can always stop in time, should that vehicle slam on the brakes and stop at any moment.

But nobody ever does that.

So following too close _is_ also a cause.

But in this case, I have to admit that tougher enforcement would face a very steep uphill battle.

Mandatory fitting of anti-tailgating radar into all cars is probably what it would take. And _of course_ a system that can automatically stop your car will have safety issues of it own, probably worse than what it's there to fix, so that's out too, it seems.


another common scenario is drivers that are constantly changing lanes ... believing that they can gain a little in their commute ... constantly slipping into small gaps (left by those leaving appropriate distance in front of them) ... creating accordian effects ... where the car they slipped in front of, has to hit their breaks ... and the car behind them hits their breaks and so on ... where at start traffic may have been going almost speed limit ... but the rear of this effect comes almost to a stop ... and then it opens up and speeds up ... thus my reference to being accordian effect. there is increased probability that as accordian is closing (caused by small number of drivers weaving between lanes into small gaps) that there is rear-end collision.

I've seen this repeatedly on the 101 hill coming out of south san jose just before coyote valley ... somebody is coming up behind slow truck in right hand lane and slips into small gap in the next lane ... triggering the accordian effect ... and as the accordian is closing, the breaking becomes ever more severe ... increasing probability of rear-end collision.

old post mentioning accordian effect
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#18 Traffic Jam Mystery Solved By Mathematicians

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Subject: Re: For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 17:15:19 -0800
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Of course if the people in the left lane would slow down slightly, just by letting up on the gas a little, they'd create plenty of space for the poor guy following the truck up the hill to get in.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#98 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-)

car coming up fast ... could come up right behind the truck ... or behind a long line of cars in the right lane already behind the truck ... and then quickly swerves into small gap into the next lane over w/o signalling ... it is just one of the recognizable cases of such drivers quickly lane switching (w/o signalling) ... other cases have little or no disernible reason for the aggresive fast lane swerve w/o signalling (one of the really funny is when they complete the lane change swerve into small gap ... and then flick turn signal)

... relative common causes that appear to precipitate the accordian closing that includes triggering rear-end collisions.

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3270 based ATMs

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: 3270 based ATMs
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 1 Feb 2016 17:31:48 -0800
trothr@GMAIL.COM (Rick Troth) writes:
I searched before asking, but didn't find anything close. Anyone know how many 3270 based ATMs are in operation? Anyone know where I can find tech pubs for such?

3624 designed at los gatos lab (disclaimer at one time, I had wing of offices and labs there ... not involved in 3624, but heard stories, at one time los gatos labs was considered one of the most scenic in ibm ... since plowed under and now housing development)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3624

the guy managing magstripe standards was also there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_stripe_card#Further_developments_and_encoding_standards

when I was co-author of financial industry standard that was piloted by nacha for ATM ... this reference gone 404 ... but lives on at wayback machine ... pilot results entry 23July2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706004855/http://internetcouncil.nacha.org/News/news.html

all the ATM network stuff was Tandem ... with special crypto hardwware.

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Internal Network, NSFNET, Internet

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Internal Network, NSFNET, Internet
Date: 01 Feb 2016
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former co-worker at the science center responsible for the internal network ... which was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-80s. Part of the reason was that it had a form of gateway from the beginning, which didn't show up in arpanet/internet until great switchover on 1Jan1983 to internetworking protocol. It's Cool to Be Clever: The Story of Edson C. Hendricks, the Genius Who Invented the Design for the Internet (there is also ipad version)
http://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
internal network posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

Some of his technology was also used for the corporate sponsored university bitnet (EARN in europe), which for a time in the 80s was also larger than arpanet/internet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
posts mentioning bitnet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

First part of 80s, we were working with director of NSF to tie together the NSF supercomputer centers and were suppose to get $20m. Then congress cuts the budget, some number of other things happened and finally they release an RFP (largely based on what we already had running). Internal politics then prevent us from bidding; trying to help, the NSF director writes the company a letter, copying the CEO (including saying what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses) ... but that just made the internal politics worse. Some old email from the period
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
posts mentioning nsfnet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet

As regional networks connect into the centers, it morphs into the NSFNET backbone (precursor to the modern internet)
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/401444/grid-computing/

1Jan1983, there were approximately 100 (arpanet) IMP network nodes with 250 connected hosts ... at a time when the internal network was rapidly approaching 1000 nodes. Trivia, old post with list of internal locations that had one or more network nodes added during 1983 (list includes Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Manilla, Thailand, Seoul, Fujisawa, Tokyo, Yasu)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

One of the problems was that all corporate links required encryption ... which created challenges for some links that crossed various national boundaries. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#crypto

trivia: the NSF RFP called for T1 links, in part because we already had T1 & faster speed links running. The RFP "winner" only installed 440kbit links and then sort of to look like they were meeting the RFP specs ... they install T1 trunks with telco multiplexors that runs multiple 440kbit links over T1 trunks. We get to have our fun ridiculing their implementation.

other trivia: I really hated the price i had to pay for T1 link encryptors (for corporate links) and it was really hard to find faster encryptors ... so I got involved in project to design new link encryptors ... objective was to handle at least 20mbit/sec and cost less then $100 to build. Then came problem with the corporate crypto product group claiming it significantly weakened industry standard crypto ... it took me 3months to figure out how to explain to them what was really going on ... it actually was significantly stronger than industry standard crypto ... but it turns out that it was hollow victory. I was then told such crypto can only be used by one organization, i could build as many as i wanted, but they all had to be sent to address in maryland. It was when I realized that there was 3kinds of crypto in the world 1) the kind they don't care about, 2) the kind you can't do, and 3) the kind you can only do for them.

past posts mentioning 3kinds crypto
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#87 New test attempt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#86 Own a piece of the crypto wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#32 Getting Out Hard Drive in Real Old Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#43 Internet Evolution - Part I: Encryption basics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#19 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#69 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#63 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#47 T-carrier
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#1 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77 German infosec agency warns against Trusted Computing in Windows 8
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#88 NSA and crytanalysis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#10 "NSA foils much internet encryption"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#50 Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#9 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#25 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#77 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#85 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#2 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#39 GM to offer teen driver tracking to parents
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#3 PROFS & GML

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Thanks Obama

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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:34:13 -0800
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#92 Thanks Obama
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#93 Thanks Obama
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#94 Thanks Obama

Rewriting the Rules of the American Economy: An Agenda for Growth and Shared Prosperity (Joseph E. Stiglitz)
http://www.amazon.com/Rewriting-Rules-American-Economy-Prosperity-ebook/dp/B015774QVY/

pg115/loc1480-83
Already, thanks to a provision of Dodd-Frank that requires private equity to register with the SEC, significant amounts of fraud or substandard behavior have been disclosed. As the director of the SEC's Office of Compliance Inspections and Examinations put it after investigating a sample of 150 newly registered private equity advisers: "we have identified what we believe are violations of law or material weaknesses in controls over 50 percent of the time."

... snip ...

SEC acquired the information to prove that private equity was committing fraud ... but not to actually do something about it.

new items from 2014 about private equity fraud:

SEC Official: Over Half Of All Private Equity Audits Revealed Crimes
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/05/09/sec-official-over-half-of-all-private-equity-audits-revealed-crimes/
SEC Official Describes Widespread Lawbreaking and Material Weakness in Controls in Private Equity Industry
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/sec-official-describes-widespread-lawbreaking-material-weakness-controls-private-equity-industry.html
New York Times' New Editor Buries Important Story on Private Equity Fee Shenanigans on Holiday Weekend
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/new-york-times-new-editor-buries-important-story-private-equity-fee-shenanigans-holiday-weekend.html

posts mentioning private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

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