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official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
GE's $31 billion pension nightmare
Xerox company sold
Making Computers Secure
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
S/360 addressing, not Honeywell 200
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Xerox company sold
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Soon, the Only Alternatives to Windows Server will be open-source
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
How to open a new console in Concurrent CP/M?
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Bitcoin confusion?
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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Olympics opening ceremony
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Olympics opening ceremony
Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983
Olympics opening ceremony
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Why China's New Supercomputer Is Only Technically the World's Fastest
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official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:00:01 -0800

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

It's always fun to watch hard-core conservatives caught in such
a dilemma.  They squirm so nicely when forced to choose between
ideology and money.  (Unless their only ideology _is_ money...)

various claims that whole income tax ... was because prior to that
federal revenue was largely operated off alchohol taxes ... they
needed income tax in order to move off running federal gov off
alchohol consumption.
https://taxfoundation.org/how-taxes-enabled-alcohol-prohibition-and-also-led-its-repeal/

Prohibition lasted from 1919 to 1933. One of the stumbling blocks
advocates of Prohibition faced before 1913 was that the federal
government was heavily dependent on taxes on alcohol. The passage of
the income tax constitutional amendment that year allowed government
the luxury of banning alcohol without reducing tax revenue

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/opinion/13okrent.html
https://mises.org/blog/prohibition-and-income-tax

other trivia ... nearly all tax revenue is via eftps
https://www.irs.gov/payments/eftps-the-electronic-federal-tax-payment-system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Federal_Tax_Payment_System

a few past posts mentioning EFTPS/FMS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#epaym "e-payments" email discussion list is now "Internet-payments"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#19 Misc. payment, security, fraud, & authentication GAO reports (long posting)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#7 income tax [was: Computers in Science Fiction]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#69 Why did they make FORTRAN so hard to parse?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#13 Cost of patching "unsustainable"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#7 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#48 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#59 History--automated payroll processing by other than a computer?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#77 TRAX manual set for sale

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official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:41:18 -0800

JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:

Texas is by county. Dry county, no alcohol in a town for sale. Wet
county, a town can go dry. Some towns sold beer only in a wet county,
others sold liquor and wine in package stores. And beer in
supermarkets. No restaurant can sell any alcoholic beverage to take
off site.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#0 official booze, Why Ctrl-v for Paste?!

old post, "how far is it from austin to dallas?, three six packs"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#30 Computerworld Article: Dress for Success?

web search for "texas drive through alcohol" ... "beer to go drive thru",
"daiquiris to go", "drive-thru margaritas" "drive-thrus for boozy frozen
sluchies" ... lots more

"Weirdest thing in Texas-Drive-thru alcoholic drinks!"
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g30165-d412075-r157118675-Eskimo_Hut-Amarillo_Texas.html

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GE's $31 billion pension nightmare

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: GE's $31 billion pension nightmare
Date: 31 Jan 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#19" In Praise of Hierarchy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#108" GE's $31 billion pension nightmare

GE Just Signaled The Next Crisis (And Nobody's Paying Attention)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/ge-just-signaled-next-crisis-and-nobodys-paying-attention

And is all started with GE's legendary former CEO Jack Welch.

Welch would regularly beat Wall Street's earnings estimates by a penny
or two. And he was named manager of the century by Fortune Magazine
for his ability to pump GE's stock.

And while Welch is lauded for his "six sigma" management, it seems his
real talent was using GE's many divisions to move assets around and
goose earnings to hit short-term numbers.

The creative accounting caught up with GE in 2009, when the company
paid $50 million to settle SEC allegations it had used improper
accounting methods to boost numbers in 2002 and 2003.

Among the strategies GE used to make its 2003 numbers was selling
railroad cars to banks, with side deals and verbal promises to assure
the banks they couldn't lose money on the deal.

Enron used the same trick in 1999 when it "sold"
Nigerian barges to Merrill Lynch, allowing the company to fake a $12
million profit.

... snip ...

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Xerox company sold

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Xerox company sold
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:00:46 -1000

hancock4 writes:

On Wednesday, Xerox said that, after 115 years as an independent
business, it would combine operations with Fujifilm Holdings of
Japan. The deal signaled the end of a company that was once an
American corporate powerhouse. "Xerox is the poster child for
monopoly technology businesses that cannot make the transition
to a new generation of technology," said David B. Yoffie, a
professor at the Harvard Business School. The move offers a
stark reminder that no matter how high a company may fly, it
is still vulnerable to the next big breakthrough. Xerox joins
once formidable tech companies like Kodak and BlackBerry that
lost the innovation footrace.

full article at:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/business/dealbook/xerox-fujifilm.html

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#19" In Praise of Hierarchy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#108 GE's $31 billion pension nightmare
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#108 GE's $31 billion pension nightmare

GE Just Signaled The Next Crisis (And Nobody's Paying Attention)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/ge-just-signaled-next-crisis-and-nobodys-paying-attention

Welch would regularly beat Wall Street's earnings estimates by a penny
or two. And he was named manager of the century by Fortune Magazine for
his ability to pump GE's stock.

And while Welch is lauded for his "six sigma" management, it seems his
real talent was using GE's many divisions to move assets around and
goose earnings to hit short-term numbers.

The creative accounting caught up with GE in 2009, when the company paid
$50 million to settle SEC allegations it had used improper accounting
methods to boost numbers in 2002 and 2003.

Among the strategies GE used to make its 2003 numbers was selling
railroad cars to banks, with side deals and verbal promises to assure
the banks they couldn't lose money on the deal.

Enron used the same trick in 1999 when it "sold" Nigerian barges to
Merrill Lynch, allowing the company to fake a $12 million profit.

... snip ...

GE's $31 billion pension nightmare
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/18/investing/ge-pension-immelt-breakup/index.html?iid=EL

Not only does GE have the largest pension deficit among S&P 500
companies, that deficit is $11 billion worse than the next closest
company, according to Dow Jones S&P Indices. (The $31 billion figure is
from the end of 2016. Fresher numbers haven't been released.)

... snip ...

Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to
the Present
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Greed-Triumph-Finance-ebook/dp/B004DEPF6I

pg187/loc3667-70:

When Welch took over GE in 1980, it was the ninth most profitable
company in the nation. Now it was first, second, or third. Shareholder
value reached $500 billion, more than any other company in
America. The stock price was Welch's personal measure of achievement,
though he later denied it. The boom of the late 1990s on balance sent
the wrong message to American managers: cut costs rather than
innovate. Despite its appeal, In Search of Excellence had little true
staying power.

pg191/loc3754-60:

In 1977, GE Capital, as it was later called, generated $67 million in
revenue with only seven thousand employees, while appliances that year
generated $100 million and required 47,000 workers. He hired better
managers and supplied GE Credit with a lot of capital, and he had
built-in scale--meaning large size--due to GE's assets size and
triple-A credit rating. In time, GE Capital became a full-fledged
bank, financing all kinds of commercial loans, issuing mortgages and
other consumer loans, and becoming a leader in mortgage-backed
securities. By the time Welch left in 2000, GE Capital's earnings had
grown by some eighty times to well more than $5 billion, while the
number of its employees did not even double. It provided half of GE's
profits.

pg192/loc3777-79:

In a few brief sentences, Welch had defined a new age for big
business. He introduced short-run profit management to GE,
understanding that stock market investors trusted little so well as
rising profits every calendar quarter. It became the best indication
of a company's quality, making it stand out in good times and bad.

pg199/loc3909-13:

GE Capital also enabled GE to manage its quarterly earnings, engaging
in the last couple of weeks of every calendar quarter in various
trades that could push earnings up on the last day or two before the
quarter's end. It was an open secret on Wall Street that this was how
Welch consistently kept quarterly earnings rising for years at a
time. "Though earnings management is a no-no among good governance
types," wrote two CNNMoney financial editors, "the company has never
denied doing it, and GE Capital is the perfect mechanism."

pg200/loc3925-30:

The CNNMoney writers got it slightly wrong. GE was not exactly like
the American economy. It was even more dependent on financial
services. In the early 2000s, GE was again riding a financial wave,
the subprime mortgage lending boom; it had even bought a subprime
mortgage broker. GE borrowed still more against equity to exploit the
remarkable opportunities, its triple-A rating giving it a major
competitive advantage. By 2008, the central weakness of the Welch
business strategy, its dependence on financial overspeculation, became
ominously clear. GE's profits plunged during the credit crisis and its
stock price fell by 60 percent. GE Capital, the main source of its
success for twenty-five years, now reported enormous losses

pg200/loc3935-41:

He mostly stopped trying to create great new products, hence the
reduction in R&D. He took the heart out of his businesses, he did not
put it in, as he had always hoped to do. What made his strategy
possible, and fully shaped it, was the rising stock market--and the
new ideology that praised free markets even as they failed.

... snip ...

economic mess posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess
enron posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

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Making Computers Secure

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Making Computers Secure
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 08:53:48 -1000

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

Have those programs run in a second computer, or in a really locked-down
sandbox virtualization mode, at least. One which basically gets scrubbed and
re-initialized for every web page you look at (not slow, because it's a tiny
second computer).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#110 Making Computers Secure

reference to consumer "dial-up" banking moving to internet and
commercial dail-up saying they would never move to the internet
because of large number of vulernabilities and exploits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#94 Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

after the turn of the century, commercial dial-up banking started
moving to the internet (regardless) and the perdicted exploits started
appearing. Commercial transactions don't have the some rules as
consumer transactions (and not required by financial institutions
to cover the costs, kind of rule that consumer isn't at fault) ... so
businesses would suethe banks over the losses. Eventually the federal
reserve came out with a guidelines that businesses should have a
dedicated PC that is only used for online banking and *NEVER* used for
any other purpose (many of the exploits involved visiting websites
that would install malware and compromise the PC)

dial-up online banking posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup.banking

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 08:52:55 -1000

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

"Reverse inversion".  What's "spurious" about it?  US corporate taxes
were ludicrously high--they are less so now but still US companies are
taxed on foreign sales at a much higher level than non-US companies.

starting in 80s, large companies started to create separate subsidiary
corporations where they could book profits. posterchild were airlines
where they set up ticket selling as separate corporate subsidiary.
Airline operations (with 90% of employees) were operating at break-even
or loss ... and all the profit was booked in the ticket sales
corporation. airline operations could be operating at substantial
loss, even tho the parent company was operating at substantial profit
(ticket sales where all the profit was booked more than offset
losses). Later they could even declare bankruptcy for airline operations
and dump the employee pension plans on the gov.

after turn of century, congress seemed to further loosen definition of
separate corporation.  posterchild is large US equipment maker that
manufactures in the US, sells and delivers to companies in the US. They
sent up a distriborship in country where they have negotiated trivial
tax rate. They transfer the (made in the US) equipment to the offshore
distriborship books at cost, which then "sells" to US customers. All
profit is booked in the offshore distriborship even tho equipment is
made in the US, sold to US customers and delivered to US customers.

even tho corparate tax rate was 35%, many large US corporations are
paying 5% or less (or even declaring loss) ... so effective overall
corporate tax revenue was more like 11%.

Gimmick hasn't only been used in US. Many countries have found that
Apple has sent things up that tax revenue as percent of sales in that
country is small single digits (foreign sales issue is mostly
obfuscation and misdirection).

Apple's $85 million tax bill is a fraction of its almost $8 billion
revenue
http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/apples-85-million-tax-bill-is-a-fraction-of-its-almost-8-billion-revenue-20160126-gmej0z.html

Apple paid $85 million in Australian income tax last year, despite
making almost $8 billion in local revenue, accounts filed with the
corporate regulator show.

...

Apple's double Irish

Apple has been accused of using a "double Irish sandwich with Dutch
associations" structure that allows it to route profits through Ireland
and significantly reduce tax.

... snip ...

aka 1% ... process regularly used around the world.

posts mentioning tax evasion, tax havens, tax avoidance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

lots of leaks ... but not solely limited to tax evasion, tax
advoidance, etc
https://www.icij.org/
luxembourg
https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/
panama papers
https://panamapapers.icij.org/
paradise papers
https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

recent GE references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#19 In Praise of Hierarchy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#108 GE's $31 billion pension nightmare

financialization destroying US corporate culture starting late 70s &
early 80s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#25 Trump's Infrastructure Plan Is Actually Pence's--And It's All About Privatization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#52 How a Misfit Group of Computer Geeks and English Majors Transformed Wall Street
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#104 Tax Cut for Stock Buybacks

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S/360 addressing, not Honeywell 200

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: S/360 addressing, not Honeywell 200
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 09:39:09 -1000

hancock4 writes:

Later on, the product Abend-Aid did all that automatically, plus
provide additional information quickly speeding dump resolution.

I had wanted to show that REXX (before customer release, originally
just REX, early 80s) wasn't just another pretty scripting language ...
I decided on demo'ing that I could redo IPCS (very large assembler
application) in less than 3months elapsed time working half time with
ten times the function and running ten times faster (some slight of
hand for REXX to run faster than assembler).

I finished early so started doing library of automated scripts that
searched/analyzed for lots of different kind of failure signatures. I
had expected that it would be released to customers ... but for some
reason it wasn't, even tho it became standard for internal datacenters
and customer support PSRs. Some old email from the 3092 (3090 service
processor) group wanting to include it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861031
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email861223

Eventually I got approval for making presentations at SHARE and other
customer user group meetings on how I implemented it .. and within a few
months similar implementations started to appear.

As an aside the implementation included functions like formating
storage segments using maclib DSECTs and decompiling instruction
sequences ... and this was in the "OCO-wars" (object code only)
... transition to no longer shipping source code. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx

other trivia: this is old "greencard" done in IOS3270 with q&d
conversion to html (the 3092 service processor screens were done
in IOS3270)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:00:36 -1000

hancock4 writes:

Even earlier than that--the Western Union Telegraph Company
reorganized in the 1960s to sell computer services from an
unregulated subsidiary.  The railroads had for years had
real estate and other businesses.

The Penn Central had numerous holdings.  Ironically, it was
criticized for that, critics saying the holdings were a
distraction to management and disrupted railroad operations.
Yet actually most holdings were profitable and helped subsidize
the money-losing railroad.

(I interviewed at a truck-body/leasing company originally
created by the PRR and then owned by Conrail.  They had a
System/3.)

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#5 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

there were previous separate cooperations ... but starting around 1980
there was specific efforts to move profit out of large human intensive
operations ... in part as union negotiating tactic (later also as tax
avoidence). They separated airline operations from ticket sales ... in
such a way that airline operations showed little or no profit ... and
all the profit was booked in a totally separate corporation (where
previously that profit had been part of airline operations). The selling
of a passenger ticket to take an airlline operations flight had all the
profit ... and actual operation of flying was showing little or no
profit.

it wasn't creating a new subsidiary for a totally different business
that operated as a profit to subsidize money loosing business. It was
moving the profit from airline operations into a separate corporation
that sold a ticket for a person to use airline operations.

It would be more akin to creating a company in Ireland for charging for
railroad freight shipped in the united states. customers would pay the
Irish company for US railroad shipping ... the Irish company would keep
all the profit ... and pass on trivial amount to the US railroad that
actually moves the freight (resulting in the US railroad operating at a
loss ... and the billing for US railroad shipping was handled in another
country and operated at large profit).

I've mentioned periodically the 2008 annual economists conference and
economic roundtable discussing advantages of flat tax ... eliminating
all tax loopholes and reducing tax rate ... while remaining tax
revenue neutral (same amount of taxes being collected). The big
advantage is it eliminates the enormous congressional graft and
corruption associated with selling tax loopholes and contributes
significantly to congress being considered the most corrupt
institution on earth.

They commented (in 2008) that Ireland is one of the largest operations
lobbying against such a change to US tax laws (and would radically cut
the payments to members of congress). It is part of one of the worst
thing that happened to the country was financialization and financial
innovation that saw big uptic around 1980.

tax evasion, tax fraud, tax avoidance, tax haven posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 16:42:16 -1000

Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

Everyone was trying to get into everyone else's business, AT&T and Xerox
into computers, IBM into copiers and communications (SBS and Rolm), Xerox
into communications (Western Union), Kodak into copiers, etc.

IBM formed satellite business systems with comsat and aetna. There was
folklore that SBS constantly lost money ... in part because what
IBM charged SBS for the gold plated equipment ... that what it made
off selling equipment more than offset its 1/3rd of SBS losses ...
then when SBS was dissolved, IBM reimbursed comsat and aetna
for their losses.

Supposedly SBS was going to make money off computer communications
... but IBM's SNA was totally not suited for communications over
satellites .... SNA windowing/pacing didn't even handle T1/1.5mbits/sec
terrestrial latency ... so satelite latency really blew it out of the
water. SBS eventually fell back to trying to sell comsumer telephone
service over satellite ... round-trip latency over satellite was as bad
for voice as it was for SNA.

I started with HSDT project in the early 80s ... and some of the SBS
people set things up to run HSDT over high-speed satellite links.  HSDT
did rate-based pacing ... rather than window-base pacing ...  so it not
only straight-forward handled single-hop round trip between US coasts
... but also handled double-hop round trip between west coast and
europe.

past HSDT posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
some old HSDT related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt

was also on the XTP technical advisory board
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
and wrote up rate-based pacing for XTP specification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/xtprate.html

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 19:29:00 -1000

Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

Everyone was trying to get into everyone else's business, AT&T and Xerox
into computers, IBM into copiers and communications (SBS and Rolm), Xerox
into communications (Western Union), Kodak into copiers, etc.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#5 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#7 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#8 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

other folklore ... guy doing M&A didn't bother to check ROLM's books
they quarter that they were acquired ... turns out it was the quarter
ROLM went into the RED.

HSDT was doing T1 and faster. IBM "officially" only had 2701 that did
T1 ... so I had to deal with boxes from other vendors. 2701 was no
longer produced and the existing ones were really getting old.

I was told that to continue with HSDT I had to have at least some IBM
content. The only thing I could find was that FSD was producing T1
ZIRPEL cards for the Series/1 (replacing some number of gov. 2701 T1
on special bids). I was told (not longer after IBM acquired ROLM) only
thing I could find were the S/1 ZIRPEL ... however ROLM was all data
general, but after the IBM acquisition, ROLM put in order for a year's
manufacturing of series/1. The person that had been running ROLM
datacenter I had worked with in their prior life at IBM ... so in
order to get some S/1, I had to do some horse trading (part of
continuing HSDT).

Later, some IBM people brought in to look at issues at ROLM. One was
it was taking more than 24hrs to load new test kernels into the data
general boxes over 56kbits/sec links. I was asked to help them with
upgrading to T1 (1.5mbytes/sec) links ... to significantly reduce the
test/debug cycles (nearly 30times faster to load new test/debug
kernel) from 24+hrs to less than hour.

For some of HSDT, had equipment being built on the other side of the
Pacific. The friday before a visit, somebody in Raleigh communication
group sent out an announcement for a new internal discussion group on
high-speed communication with the following definitionw

low-speed               <9.6kbits
medium-speed            19.2kbits
high-speed              56kbits
very high-speed         1.5mbits

Monday morning on the wall of a conference room on the other
side of the pacific

low-speed               <20mbits
medium-speed            100mbits
high-speed              200-300mbits
very high-speed         >600mbits

...

the communication group had prepared a presentation for the corporate
executive committee that customers weren't interested in T1 for another
6-8 yrs. They had used customer data about 37x5 "fat pipes" ... number
of parallel 56kbit links operated as single logical link dropped to
zero at 5 or 6 links. What they didn't bother to include was that
typical telco tariff for T1 link was about the same as 5 or 6 56kbit
links ... customers just switched to non-IBM boxes supporting full
T1 when it got to that point (trivial survey found 200 customers
with T1 links supported by non-IBM boxes).

Later the communication group was somewhat forced into coming out with
box that sort of supported T1 terrestrial ... 3737 with lots of 68k
processors and boat loads of memory ... that simulated local
channel-to-channel adaptor (CTCA) ... immediately ACK'ing packet as soon
as the local box received it (because VTAM/SNA couldn't handle T1
terrestrial latency) ... and then using non-SNA between it and the
remote boxes ... even at that, max a 3737 could handle (partially
because of all the simualtion overhead) was 2mbits/sec
aggregate. full-duplex US T1 is 3mbits/sec aggregate (1.5mbits/sec in
each direction) and full-duplex EU T1 is 4mbites/sec aggregate
(2mbits/sec in each direction)

past HSDT posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

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Xerox company sold

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Xerox company sold
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2018 12:28:46 -1000

Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

GE Just Signaled The Next Crisis (And Nobody's Paying Attention)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-30/ge-just-signaled-next-crisis-and-nobodys-paying-attention

Welch would regularly beat Wall Street's earnings estimates by a penny
or two. And he was named manager of the century by Fortune Magazine for
his ability to pump GE's stock.

And while Welch is lauded for his "six sigma" management, it seems his
real talent was using GE's many divisions to move assets around and
goose earnings to hit short-term numbers.

The creative accounting caught up with GE in 2009, when the company paid
$50 million to settle SEC allegations it had used improper accounting
methods to boost numbers in 2002 and 2003.

Among the strategies GE used to make its 2003 numbers was selling
railroad cars to banks, with side deals and verbal promises to assure
the banks they couldn't lose money on the deal.

Enron used the same trick in 1999 when it "sold" Nigerian barges to
Merrill Lynch, allowing the company to fake a $12 million profit.

GE's $31 billion pension nightmare
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/18/investing/ge-pension-immelt-breakup/index.html?iid=EL

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#3 Xerox company sold

on going financialization and financial innovation over last 30yrs

How GE Went From American Icon to Astonishing Mess; Famous for great
management, General Electric is staring down a plunging share price, a
federal investigation, and possible breakup.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-01/how-ge-went-from-american-icon-to-astonishing-mess

other recent refs on financialization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#1 Any definitive reference for why the PDP-11 was little-endian?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#71 When Working From Home Doesn't Work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#25 Trump's Infrastructure Plan Is Actually Pence's--And It's All About Privatization

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:42:22 -1000

Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

other folklore ... guy doing M&A didn't bother to check ROLM's books
the quarter that they were acquired ... turns out it was the quarter
ROLM went into the RED.

I.B.M. to Sell Rolm to Siemens
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/14/business/ibm-to-sell-rolm-to-siemens.html?pagewanted=all

Four years ago, when I.B.M. purchased Rolm, an innovative Silicon Valley
company, many experts said the stage was being set for a global
high-technology showdown between I.B.M., the world's largest computer
maker, and the American Telephone and Telegraph Company, the
telecommunications giant. Ahead of Its Time

... snip ...

later after leaving IBM ... was doing financial standards and secure
chip. Siemens was in the process of spinning of its chip business as
Infineon and we were dealing with person that would head up Infineon
... started out with some offices in the old ROLM campus ... but they
were getting building on 1st street (up near intersection with 101,
near airport). Infineon was then listed on NYSE and guy got to ring
the bell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infineon_Technologies

We had meetings with Infineon in Siemens chip offices in Munich and
asked to do security walk through of their new secure chip plant in
Dresden. They did some runs of chips for some pilot ... also used at BAI
world wide retail banking show in 1999 ... old reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#217 AADS/X9.59 demo & standards at BAI (world-wide retail banking) show
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#224 X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI this week

some X9.59 standards ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
some AADS refs and patents
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

recent post about chipcards imploding around turn of century
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#94 Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#110 Making Computers Secure

old afc post mentioning Dresden walk-through
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#53 Getting Old

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Soon, the Only Alternatives to Windows Server will be open-source

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Soon, the Only Alternatives to Windows Server will be open-source
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:18:40 -1000

JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:

I liked the Apple ][, but that is when I learned Apple didn't like
their customers.

My brother was regional apple marketing rep back in the apple II days
(largest physical region in CONUS). When he came into town for business
meetings I would get invited to some business dinners ... even getting
to argue MAC design with developers (before MAC was first announced).
He had marketing story about noticing IBM coffee mugs at customers and
fawning over how great they were and willing to trade 2-3 APPLE mugs
for every IBM mug.

trivia: at the time, APPLE business was run on IBM S/38 ... my brother
found out how to dial in to the S/38 remotely and be able to track
manufacturing and delivery schedules (for his customers).

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 14:58:59 -1000

hancock4 writes:

That is surprising, since early on in satellite communications
they discovered the problem with latency in both voice and data
transmission.  Indeed, by 1960, they knew the characteristics of
voice and data were different enough to require different line
treatments ("conditioning") to accommodate higher data speeds
on landlines.

I'm not sure when SNA was developed, but I would guess by that
point overseas computer data transmission was already in place
via cable, as well as transcontinental data transmission via
microwave, which has latency, too.

Some of that is touched on in the following:
http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/technical/western-union-tech-review/21-4/p174.htm

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#5 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#7 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#8 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#9 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

mid-70s as Future System was imploded, my wife was co-author of AWP39
... peer-to-peer networking architecture ... about the same time as SNA
... which specified dumb terminal communication control system ... "not"
a system, "not" a network, and "not" an archiecture (i.e. fancy TCAM)
... but because they used "network" (when it wasn't a network), AWP39
had to qualify with peer-to-peer.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

She was then in the gburg JES group and one of the catchers that turned
ASP into JES3 and co-author of JESUS (JES unified system) ... all the
stuff in JES2 & JES3 that the respective customers couldn't live w/o
... then was con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of
"loosely-coupled" architecture (mainframe for "cluster) and did
peer-coupled shared data architecture" ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#shareddata

She didn't remain long because 1) little uptake (except for IMS
hot-standby ... until sysplex and parallel sysplex much later) and 2)
constant battles with communication group trying to force her into using
SNA/VTAM for loosely-coupled operation.

SBS satellite communication provided much higher bandwidth with distance
insensitive charges (stationary orbit satellite footprint). SNA/VTAM had
window pacing implementation that would allow small (very limited)
number of small fixed-sized packets to be transmitted (waiting for
outstanding packet acknowledgements) and it also had maximum time-out if
it didn't get response. Double-hop 56kbit satellite link latency
exceeded both the maximum time-out case as well as the maximum window of
outstanding packets. Terrestrial T1 latency and speed would exceeded the
maxium window/number of outstanding packets ... at which point VTAM
stops transmitting until it gets ACKs back for earlier transmitted
packets (aka acknowledgements that previously transmitted packets had
been received), so even with terrestrial latency, majority of the T1
bandwidth was idle ... late 80s resulted in the 3237 spoofing CTCA
(local channel-to-channel with no latency) for T1 links ... still
couldn't get over 2mbits/sec aggregate. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880130
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880606
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email881005
in these posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#75 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#77 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?

cira 1979 or 1980, there is inframous case where STL (west coast, now
silicon valley lab) and Hursely (Englan lab) datacenters were trying to
setup to use each others "off-shift" time for their respective 1st shift
throughput. They had double hop satellite 56kbit link (much, much
cheaper than terrestrial plus undersea cable) and initially tested with
VM370 VNET connection and everything worked fine. Then (MVS-bigot)
insisted that it be setup for MVS JES2 (SNA/VTAM) and it was completely
dead. The MVS-bigot tried to claim it was a bad link and VM370 VNET was
too dumb to realize it. The problem was the double-hop round trip
latency was greater than the MVS SNA/VTAM time-out value ... so wouldn't
establish a operational link.

HSDT even got a dedicated transponder to play with when SBS4
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/sbs-1.htm
STS-41-D (I was invited to VIP launch party at cape)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-41-D
I think SBS4 was their first KU-band ... previous having been C-band
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band

hsdt posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
HSDT did dynamic rate-based pacing (rather than window-based ... aka max
number of outstanding packets waiting for acknowledgement). I was also
on the XTP technical advisory board ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp
and wrote up (dynammic) rate-based pacing for XTP specification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/xtprate.html

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:07:36 -1000

Les Comeau was at MIT/CTSS and then came over to IBM science center when
it formed end of 1964. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

He then came up with idea of virtual machines and also made observation
about Atlas paging known to be not working well.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#75 A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#79 thrashing,was Re: A Computer That Never Was: the IBM 7095

late 60s he left the science center and went to (IBM) gburg. Future
System had something like 13-14 sections,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Les "owned" FS "interconnect" section and my wife reportedly directly to
him. She represent interconnect in FS archiecture meetings ... and has
made the observation that many of the sections had lots of academic
ideas ... but had little or no idea how to actually implement anything
("no beaf there"). Of course, I've periodically commented that I
continued to work on 360/370 that period and periodically would ridicule
FS.

Later when we were doing HA/CMP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

Les had retired from IBM and moved back to Boston area (buying tug boat
and making over to house boat in Boston Harbor). He was director of Mass
General & Harvard Medical datacenters and also formed a software company
with some former people at the science center. We eventually
subcontracted a lot of HA/CMP implementation to his company. He recently
passed 30Nov2017
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bostonglobe/obituary.aspx?pid=187597624

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:13:25 -1000

Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:

Hence things like CKD disk, APPC, 3270, VSAM.

Originally, CKD disk could trade off excess channel & I/O capacity in
the mid-60s (with sequential search operations) against scarce real
memory. A decade later, the trade-off had inverted ... disk, control
unit and channel capacity was becoming the scarce resources (bottleneck)
with real storage becoming increasingly abundant. Real storage was then
being used for file caching and index ... trying to alleviate the disk
i/o bottleneck ... but CKD searches were so ingrained in OS/360 that
they continued to be part of the design. Even tho no real CKD have been
built for decades ... OS/360 descendants still require CKD simulation
(on industry standard fixed block disks). past posts mentioning CKD,
multi-track searches, FBA, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:20:07 -1000

Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:

I suspect the main problem was shortage of ram (especially when using
magnetic core). The system probably had a two packets in
transmission. A satellite needs buffering for 30-40 packets. With
multi-hop delays can easily exceed one second.

But number of packets that could be sent over terrestrial T1 link
would quickly exceed the "window" pacing limit ... before ACKs
started to be received ... so transmission would stop leaving
much of the capacity unused ... before ACKs started arriving to
reduce the number of outstanding packets.

We went to dynamic adaptive rate-based pacing ... which could
aggressively use all the transmission capacity. There was a presentation
at 1988 (internet) IETF standards meeting about problems with window
based pacing because number of packets outstanding (un-acked) is
proportional to latency times bandwidth ... pointing out that
coast-to-coast terrestrial gigabit bandwidth has the same problems as
satellite latency at lower bandwidth.

past hsdt posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 20:03:00 -1000

Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

I've mentioned periodically the 2008 annual economists conference
and economic roundtable discussing advantages of flattax ... eliminating
all tax loopholes and reducing tax rate ... while remaining tax
revenue neutral (same amount of taxes being collected). The big
advantage is it eliminates the enormous congressional graft and
corruption associated with selling tax loopholes and contributes
significantly to congress being considered the most corrupt institution
on earth.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#7 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

recent item: Unrigging the System
http://www.pogo.org/blog/2018/02/unrigging-the-system.html

POGO
http://www.pogo.org/

Our Work - Government Accountability
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/government-accountability.html
Our work - Open Government
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/open-government.html
Our Work - Whistleblower Protections
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/whistleblower-protections.html

other POGO efforts: Straus Military Reform Project
http://www.pogo.org/straus/

Kicking the F-35's Tires
http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/military-industrial-circus/2018/kicking-the-f-35s-tires.html

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
whistleblower posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:19:09 -1000

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

Many (Most?) CEO's have indicated they'll return the cash to shareholders rather
than invest in plant or people.   There obviously will be exceptions by
either altrusistic CEOS (one in 10000) or those currying favor from the
idiot-in-chief.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#5 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#7 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#8 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#9 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#11 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#13 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#14 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#15 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#16 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#17 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

Corporations Say Publicly They'll Pocket the Tax Cut, But Republicans
Aren't Listening
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/19/tax-bill-corporate-cut-stock-buyback-republican/
Share buyback machine now in overdrive -- dropping a strong hint at
what CEOs plan to do with tax savings
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/share-buybacks-spike-dropping-a-strong-hint-at-what-ceos-plan-to-do-with-tax-savings-2017-12-08
How Much Can Buybacks Rise on Tax Cuts? This Estimate Says 70%
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-03/how-much-can-buybacks-rise-on-tax-cuts-this-estimate-says-70
US firms will now focus on stock buybacks after tax cuts, David
Rubenstein says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/us-firms-will-now-focus-on-stock-buybacks-after-tax-cuts-david-rubenstein-says.html

trivia: what company did David Rubenstein found? hint: what company
did the former president of AMEX go to after leaving as CEO of IBM?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/barbarians-capitol-private-equity-public-enemy/

Home Depot updates on tax bill impact
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3325245-home-depot-updates-tax-bill-impact
The Home Depot Awards Hourly Associates a One-Time Tax Reform Bonus;
Comments on Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017
https://seekingalpha.com/pr/17056151-home-depot-awards-hourly-associates-one-time-tax-reform-bonus-comments-tax-cuts-jobs-act-2017
Announces Accelerated Business Investment Plan and $15 Billion Share
Repurchase Authorization
http://ir.homedepot.com/news-releases/2017/12-06-2017-110035522

Home Depot sets new $15 billion stock buyback program, affirms 2017 outlook
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/home-depot-sets-new-15-billion-stock-buyback-program-affirms-2017-outlook-2017-12-06
Home Depot sets $15 billion share buyback, investment plan
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-home-depot-outlook-investor-day/home-depot-sets-15-billion-share-buyback-investment-plan-idUSKBN1E01D9
Home Depot Gives Investors a $15 Billion Christmas Gift
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/10/home-depot-gives-investors-a-15-billion-christmas.aspx
Home Depot to Launch $15 Billion Share Buyback Program
https://www.wsj.com/articles/home-depot-to-launch-15-billion-share-buyback-program-1512560836

also the Home Depot bonus announcements said "up to $1000" for
associates ... so the actual total bonus expense could be much less
than $385M ($1000 for 385K employees), Even at $385M is less than 3%
of $15B buyback

The Home Depot Awards Hourly Associates a One-Time Tax Reform Bonus;
Comments on Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017
http://ir.homedepot.com/news-releases/2018/01-25-2018-130246180

IBM Asian Revenues Crash, Adjusted Earnings Beat On Tax Rate Fudge; Debt
Rises 20% To Fund Stock Buybacks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-21/ibm-asian-revenues-crash-adjusted-earnings-beat-tax-rate-fudge-debt-rises-20-fund-st
New IBM Buyback Plan Is For Over 10 Percent Of Its Stock
http://247wallst.com/technology-3/2013/10/29/new-ibm-buyback-plan-is-for-over-10-percent-of-its-stock/
The company has represented that its dividends and share repurchases
have come to a total of over $159 billion since 2000.

quote attributable to Volcker from Confidence Men: Wall Street,
Washington, and the Education of a President
http://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Men-Washington-Education-ebook/dp/B0089LOKKS

pg290:

Well, I said, 'The trouble with the United States recently is we spent
several decades not producing many civil engineers and producing a
huge number of financial engineers. And the result is s**tty bridges
and a s**tty financial system!'

... snip ...

Bad Ideas; Reknowned economist James K. Galbraith, one of our expert
panelists, pulls no punches in talking about the damage wrought by
financial innovation
https://www.gfmag.com/magazine/june-2017/bad-ideas
The Economist's Take on Financial Innovation
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/satyajit-das-pravda-the-economist%E2%80%99s-take-on-financial-innovation.html

The Real Reason Wages Have Stagnated: Our Economy Is Optimized For
Financialization
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-08/real-reason-wages-have-stagnated-our-economy-optimized-financialization
The Limping Middle Class
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/opinion/sunday/jobs-will-follow-a-strengthening-of-the-middle-class.html
slouching towards 3rd world country status and return of the robber
barons.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html?ref=sunday
How GE, GM, Coca-Cola And Kodak Put Shareholders Ahead Of Employees
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2017/06/29/how-ge-gm-coca-cola-kodak-put-shareholders-ahead-of-employees/
from here
http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

this has HD buying back 1/3rd of its stock over the last 10yrs ... not
quite as egregious as IBM
http://www.vuru.co/analysis/HD/dividendsBuybacks
Buyback binge is going strong, but here is why they are not the
solution
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/21/buyback-binge-is-going-strong-but-here-is-why-they-are-not-the-solution.html

Home Depot is part of a select group of companies I call "buyback
monsters," companies that have bought back more than 25 percent of
their shares since 2000.

... snip ...

Stockman, 80s budget director, takes credit for accelerating SS
contribution increases and (double) taxing SS benefits ... so the
money could be used for DOD ... Great Deformation
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Deformation-Corruption-Capitalism-America/dp/1586489127/

pg464/loc9995-10000:

IBM was not the born-again growth machine trumpeted by the mob of Wall
Street momo traders. It was actually a stock buyback contraption on
steroids. During the five years ending in fiscal 2011, the company
spent a staggering $67 billion repurchasing its own shares, a figure
that was equal to 100 percent of its net income.

pg465/10014-17:

Total shareholder distributions, including dividends, amounted to $82
billion, or 122 percent, of net income over this five-year
period. Likewise, during the last five years IBM spent less on capital
investment than its depreciation and amortization charges, and also
shrank its constant dollar spending for research and development by
nearly 2 percent annually.

... snip ...

IBM Asian Revenues Crash, Adjusted Earnings Beat On Tax Rate Fudge;
Debt Rises 20% To Fund Stock Buybacks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-21/ibm-asian-revenues-crash-adjusted-earnings-beat-tax-rate-fudge-debt-rises-20-fund-st
New IBM Buyback Plan Is For Over 10 Percent Of Its Stock
http://247wallst.com/technology-3/2013/10/29/new-ibm-buyback-plan-is-for-over-10-percent-of-its-stock/

The company has represented that its dividends and share repurchases
have come to a total of over $159 billion since 2000.

... snip ...

stock buyback posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 12:50:04 -1000

Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:

The IBM 1311 was the predecessor to the IBM 2311.
Same size cabinet, layout, disks.
The key difference was that the IBM 1311 could be
read and written with really simple commands.
On our 1440 we used a 500 character routine to do everything
we needed with the disk.
The IBM 2311 required an entire OS to use.

CMS had a 64kbyte OS/360 simulation code that included reading (but not
writing) OS/360 disks. In the mid-70s the VM370 development
significantly enhanced that simulation with approx. another 64kbytes of
OS/360 simulation code that included general OS360/MVS disk R/W support.

However, before that was included in release and shipped to customers
... the Future System effort imploded
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

there was made rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline and head
of POK managed to convince corporate to kill the VM370 product, shutdown
the burlington mall development group, and transfer all the people to
POK MVS/XA. As part of that everything in Burlington Mall bldg
(originally vacant SBC part of the service bureau settlement) that
hadn't already shipped to customers ... evaporated/disappeared. Also
news of the shutdown/transfer managed to leak early and several people
managed to exscape ... many to DEC and the new VAX/VMS effort (including
the person primarily responsible for the latest OS/360 simulation
enhancements).

We used to joke that the CMS OS/360 64kbytes of code (that could have
grown to 128kbyte of code) was a much more efficient simulation of
OS/360 than the 8mbyte MVS simulation of OS/360

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How to open a new console in Concurrent CP/M?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How to open a new console in Concurrent CP/M?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 12:54:36 -1000

Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:

Actually, it's DOS-11, not OS/8.  Gary Kildall used DOS-11 as the model for
CP/M, because he had used it previously.

Kildall had also worked with CP/67-CMS at Navy Postgraduate School in Monterey.

science center posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 08:34:00 -1000

jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:

I hadn't heard of buybacks.  Are Apple and Walmart doing that?

past posts mentioning stock buybacks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

2015 rankings
http://fortune.com/2015/10/31/apple-ge-stock-buyback-chart/

apple, GE, walmart, home depot, qualcomm, glead sciences, united tech,
pepsico, amex, goldman

4 Companies That Have Repurchased the Most Stock Over the Past Decade
They've combined to buy back $563 billion worth of their stock in just
10 years.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/07/20/4-companies-that-have-repurchased-the-most-stock-o.aspx

apple, ibm, microsoft, exxonmobile

Apple, tech companies to bring back $400 billion in overseas cash to the
US: Estimate
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/05/apple-tech-companies-to-bring-back-400-billion.html

note that is just relatively recent tax loopholes made legal by
congress.

spring 2009, IRS announced that it was going after $400B in taxes on
money illegally stashed overseas by 52,000 wealthy americans (over and
above tax loopholes that allowed trillions to be legally stashed
overseas) since the start of the century ... then little or nothing in
the news. spring 2011 the new speaker of the house has press conference
where he says he is cutting the budget for the IRS department
responsible for recovering the $400B. Since then there has been periodic
news about the banks and financial advisors have been fined a few
billion for their part in facilitating illegally stashing trillions
overseas (again, over and above the trillions that congressional tax
loopholes allowed to be stashed overseas "legally") ... but almost
nothing about recoverying the $400B in taxes owed on the money illegally
stashed overseas.

posts mentioning tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax loopholes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:03:20 -1000

2002, congress lets the fiscal responsibility act lapse (spending can't
exceed tax revenue, totally different republican congress than the
republican congress that originally passed the act). 2010 CBO report
that 2003-2009, tax revenue cut by $6T (first time taxes cut to not pay
for two wars) and spending increased by $6T for $12T gap compared to
fiscal responsible budget. Since then taxes not restored and only modest
spending reductions so deficit continued to increase ... now over $20T
(and prediction that it increases another trillion over coming fiscal
year).

fiscal responsibility act posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax haven pots
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

CBO 2010 report also that of the big DOD spending increase 2003-2009,
they couldn't find anything to show for over trillion.

note for 20+yrs  all gov. agencies have been mandated to pass
financial audit ... DOD has yet to pass financial audit.

Exclusive: Massive Pentagon agency lost track of hundreds of millions of
dollars
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/05/pentagon-logistics-agency-review-funds-322860

however, above just mentions hundreds of millions ... not the trillions.

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:25:45 -1000

original justification for Iraq2 was they supported Al-Qaeda ... when
that was invalidated, they changed to WMDs and it would only cost $50B.
Two wars estimate is now over $5T, more than 100 times greater (when
long term veteran care & benefits are taken into account).

I Helped Sell the False Choice of War Once. It's Happening Again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/opinion/trump-iran-war.html

CIA director Colby refuses to approve "Team B" analysis claiming huge
Russian military capability, justifying huge US military spending
increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

White House Chief of Staff Rumsfeld replaces Colby with somebody (Bush1)
that will aggree with "Team B" analysis. Rumsfeld then resigns to become
SECDEF (and is replaced by his assistent Cheney).

"Team B" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

In the 80s, Bush1 is VP and Rumsfeld is involved in supporting Iraq, US
support Iraq in the iran/iraq war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including supplying WMDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

In the early 90s, Bush1 is president and Cheney is SECDEF. Sat. photo
recon analyst told white house that saddam was marshaling forces to
invade Kuwait. White house said that saddam would do no such thing and
proceeded to discredit the analyst. Later the analyst informed the white
house that saddam was marshaling forces to invade Saudi Arabia, now the
white house has to choose between saddam and the Saudis.
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

This century, Bush2 is president, Cheney is VP, Rumsfeld is SECDEF and
one of the "Team B" members is deputy SECDEF (and major architect of
Iraq policy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing
with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs (tracing back
to US in the Iran/Iraq war) had been decommissioned. the cousin shared
it with Card, Powell and others ... then is locked up in military
hospital, book was published in 2010 (after being releaased and before
decommissioned WMDs were declassified)
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

NY Times series from 2014, the decommission WMDs (tracing back to US
from Iran/Iraq war), had been found early in the invasion, but the
information was classified for a decade
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
and military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate
reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for
IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and
(directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of
modern US arms). From the law of unintended consequences, the invaders
were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs, when they got around to
going back, over a million metric tons had evaporated.
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds

Also back in the 80s, Former CIA director and then VP repeatedly claimed
that he knew nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

S&L crises posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crises

this decade, another family member presides over the economic mess 70
times larger than the S&L crises. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal
referrals and 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally
the economic mess should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000
criminal convictions with jailtime.

economic mess posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess

note both 80s SECSTATE and SECDEF were Bechtel executives ... helping
their (former) employer do business in the middle east. "The Profiteers:
Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World" ... Bechtel is also part of the
massive uptic in gov. outsourcing last decade
https://www.amazon.com/Profiteers-Bechtel-Men-Built-World-ebook/dp/B010MHAHV2/

VP has become president and Iran/Contra prosecutors are working with
former SECDEF on evidence ... including against the sitting
president. The president then "pardons" the former SECDEF. loc2752-54:

Pollard had accidentally "busted the most secret White House operation
of modern times," as one account put it. "Neither Pollard nor the
government of Israel was aware that they had smashed George Bush's first
shipment of arms to Iran."

loc2764-65:

Despite his best efforts to silence Pollard, Weinberger would not escape
his own entanglement in the Iran-Contra conspiracy, for which he would
ultimately face criminal charges.

... snip ...

then a bunch of evidence is turned over (that the president had
"forgotten" about) showing he was heavily involved in Iran/Contra

Part of the enormous outsourcing last decade ... 70% of the intelligence
budget and over half the people ... including Snowden and others
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
accelerating the rapidly spreading Success of Failure culture
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

The Profiteers, about hanford, loc4296-98:

In 2000 Bechtel received the $4.3 billion deal for the cleanup, which
the company estimated would cost $14 billion to complete. But eleven
years later, with the job still uncompleted, Bechtel predicted that the
final cost would be more than $120 billion.

... and about outsourcing of DOE labs (to Bechtel), loc4288-91:

A congressional commission, led by former undersecretary of the army
Norman Augustine and retired admiral Richard Mies, concluded in 2014
that the privatization of the nuclear weapons laboratories had resulted
in a "dysfunctional management and operations relationship," and "uneven
collaboration with customers"--the "customers" being the DOE.

... snip ...

Note only about 2/3rds of defense budget show up in DOD ... there is
about anther 1/3rd of defense budget that show up in places like DOE.

posts in this thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#5 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#7 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#8 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#9 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#11 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#13 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#14 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#15 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#16 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#17 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#18 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#19 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#21 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#22 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:50:02 -1000

Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:

"Gutting"? Last time I checked, the US military budget was the biggest
in the world, greater than the next 9 countries *combined*. Now, it's
true that we've chosen to fight a 30 years war in Afghanistan, and
more in Iraq and Syria. And Trump wants to have military parades that
will outshine Moscow and Beijing..

i know winslow ... but not a relative and since retired (this from last
administration, 2012)
https://breakingdefense.com/2012/03/the-military-imbalance-how-the-u-s-outspends-the-world/

The PPP comparison also reminds one of a bizarre analytical technique
the Cold War era intelligence community used when comparing US defense
spending to that of the Soviet Union. To size the overall Soviet defense
budget, an assumption was made, for example, to cost Soviet tanks, such
as the T-72, as the cost equivalent of American tanks, such as the M-1,
notwithstanding the fact that the American tank was far more complex and
therefore much more expensive than the T-72. Thus, with the Soviets
producing tanks in greater numbers than the US, the Soviet defense
budget was counted as far larger than it actually was. It was threat
inflation masked behind contrived budget analysis, and it was quite
notorious to all, except those who welcomed the budget/threat inflation
for bureaucratic or political reasons.

...

The last figure, "Planned Defence Expenditure by Country 2011," shows
the proportion of US spending to all other regions and countries. The US
accounts for 45.7 percent of total spending by the world's 171
governments and territories. While, again, there is no comparison of the
US and our allies vis-à-vis all of our "potential opponents," the
comparison becomes so unbalanced as to be odious. With most of the top
ten on "our" side, the ratio of "us" to "them" is far more than five to
one and more like ten, or more, to one - even assuming many governments
are neutral.

... snip ...

DOD spending is only about 2/3rds of US, other third is DHS, DOE,
veterans, etc ... total over trillion/yr.

note: budget/thread inflation shows up in "Team B" ...  CIA director
Colby refuses to approve "Team B" analysis claiming huge Russian
military capability, justifying huge US military spending increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

White House Chief of Staff Rumsfeld replaces Colby with somebody (Bush1)
that will aggree with "Team B" analysis. Rumsfeld then resigns to become
SECDEF (and is replaced by his assistent Cheney).

In the 80s, Bush1 is VP and Rumsfeld is involved in supporting Iraq, US
support Iraq in the iran/iraq war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including supplying WMDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

In the early 90s, Bush1 is president and Cheney is SECDEF. Sat. photo
recon analyst told white house that saddam was marshaling forces to
invade Kuwait. White house said that saddam would do no such thing and
proceeded to discredit the analyst. Later the analyst informed the white
house that saddam was marshaling forces to invade Saudi Arabia, now the
white house has to choose between saddam and the Saudis.
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

This century, Bush2 is president, Cheney is VP, Rumsfeld is SECDEF and
one of the "Team B" members is deputy SECDEF (and major architect of
Iraq policy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing
with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs (tracing back
to US in the Iran/Iraq war) had been decommissioned. the cousin shared
it with Card, Powell and others ... then is locked up in military
hospital, book was published in 2010 (after being releaased and before
decommissioned WMDs were declassified)
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

NY Times series from 2014, the decommission WMDs (tracing back to US
from Iran/Iraq war), had been found early in the invasion, but the
information was classified for a decade
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
and military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate
reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for
IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and
(directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of
modern US arms). From the law of unintended consequences, the invaders
were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs, when they got around to
going back, over a million metric tons had evaporated.
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
team b posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds

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Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 10:00:13 -1000

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

They are built and paid for by the states in which they are located.
The only control the Federal government has over them is that the Feds
can withhold a payment if they are not constructed and maintained to a
certain standard.  Essentially the states are bribed to cooperate.

when they were extending I93 in massachusetts to Tobin bridge in Bostin
... they eventually realized that multilane route one coming into Tobin
bridge from the north/left used all lanes on the Tobin bridge and much
of the traffic exited to the south/right at the other end of Tobin
bridge. The I93 connection would add as many lanes coming in from the
south/right and continue north/left at the end of the bridge
... creating two multilane lane traffic patterns that forming bumper
car X-cross pattern over the length of the bridge.

The result would be that I93 (and route one) traffic would have to be
reduced to something like 15miles/hr several miles before Tobin
... which wouldn't meet federal government interstate standards. So they
considered canceling the project ... because in theory they wouldn't get
the 90% interstate federal reimbursement however, the contractor
canceltation penalty was much greater than 10% they would be on the hook
for completing the bridge.

They apparently got a bill through congress that they could get their
90% reimbursement for the completed project even though the whole
section failed to meet interstate standards.

Something worse later happened with the "big dig" through downtown
boston ... was suppose to be $2B ... but graft and corruption drove it
to $20B. The long time senator from Massachusetts is claimed to have
said that the federal government "owed" the extra $18B to the citizens
of massachusetts (obfiscating the fact the extra $18B only went to a
small number of very wealthy people).

When I first moved to the IBM Cambridge Science Center, massachucetts
politics was explained to me that in most places, known association
with organized crime would adversely affect their chances of election,
while in massachucetts, it significantly helped chances of election.

past posts mentioning "BIG DIG"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#25 TGV in the USA?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#73 Cormpany sponsored insurance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#41 fraying infrastructure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#56 IBM drops Power7 drain in 'Blue Waters'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#0 Urban transportation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#55 TV Big Bang 10/12/09
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#11 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#14 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#15 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#18 other days around me
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#68 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#48 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#105 only sometimes From looms to computers to looms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#27 Federal Subsidies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#72 IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#6 The Profiteers: Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#57 [CM] What was your first home computer?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#79 [CM] What was your first home computer?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#33 Disregard post (another screwup; absolutely nothing to  do with computers whatsoever!)

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Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:48:14 -1000

Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:

I'm having trouble understanding the Wikipedia comment on the issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Financing

The federal contribution comes overwhelmingly from motor vehicle and
fuel taxes (93.5 percent in 2007), and it makes up about 60 percent of
the contributions by the states.

Does that mean the feds pay 60 percent of the money the states spend?

or fuel taxes makes up 60% of contributions by the states???

we've also had lots of past discussions that highways are primarily
designed for heavy truck 18wheeler axle-ton-miles (ESALs) lifetime and
nearly all wear & tear is all from heavy truck 18wheeler axle-ton-miles
(cars and light trucks play no factor).

heavy trucks frequently carry blurbs about enormous amounts that they
are paying for the highways ... but non-truck use is in effect
subsidising heavy truck use (with their fuel tax) ... the highway heavy
truck subsidy plays a role in trade-offs with railroad/truck freight
comparisons.

truck scales and other regulations motivated largely because overweight
trucks greatly accelerate highway wear and tear (overweight trucks add
significant infrastructure costs)

past posts mentioning ESALs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#41 Transportation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#7 OT Global warming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#56 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#57 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#59 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#60 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#61 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#62 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#0 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#6 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#11 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006h.html#23 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#48 fraying infrastructure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#36 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#61 Idiotic cars driving themselves
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#39 Central vs. expanded storage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#52 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#80 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#83 A Close Look at the Perry Tax Plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#28 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#29 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#76 IMPI (System/38 / AS/400 historical)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#12 1970--protesters seize computer center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#109 Minimum Wage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#31 Disregard post (another screwup; absolutely nothing to do with computers whatsoever!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#44 Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 16:24:47 -1000
X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: ---F----

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

That's because the only motivators you seem to understand are greed
and sex.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#80 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#60 When Working From Home Doesn't Work

On War - an Andy McNab War Classic: The beautifully reproduced
illustrated 1908 edition, with introduction by Andy McNab, notes by
Col. F.N. Maude and brief memoir of General Clausewitz
https://www.amazon.com/War-beautifully-reproduced-illustrated-introduction-ebook/dp/B00G3DFLY8

from intro of the 1908 edition ... loc394-95:

As long as the Socialists only threatened capital they were not
seriously interfered with, for the Government knew quite well that the
undisputed sway of the employer was not for the ultimate good of the
State.

... snip ...

the government needed general population standard of living sufficient
that soldiers were willing to fight to preserve their way of
life. Capitilists tendency was to reduce worker standard of living to
the lowest possible ... below what the government needed for soldier
motivation ... and therefor needed socialists as counterbalance to the
capitalists in raising the general population standard of living.

How Economists Turned Corporations into Predators
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/10/economists-turned-corporations-predators.html

Since the 1980s, business schools have touted "agency theory," a
controversial set of ideas meant to explain how corporations best
operate. Proponents say that you run a business with the goal of
channeling money to shareholders instead of, say, creating great
products or making any efforts at socially responsible actions such as
taking account of climate change. Many now take this view as gospel,
even though no less a business titan than Jack Welch, former CEO of
GE, called the notion that a company should be run to maximize
shareholder value "the dumbest idea in the world." Why did Welch say
that?

... snip ...

stock buyback posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback
inequality posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality

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Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Important US technology companies sold to foreigners
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:08:26 -1000

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

Probably spent his hitch as a typist in Secaucus.  Everybody who
served didn't go to Vietnam.

I had 2hr intro to computing ... year later, univ hired me fulltime to
be responsible for os/360. I still hadn't graduated, Boeing hired me
fulltime as part of small group attached to CFO at corporate hdqtrs
across from Boeing Field to help form Boeing Computer Services
(consolidate all dataprocessing in an independent business unit to
better monetize the investment, including offering services to
non-Boeing entities). At the time CFO only had a 360/30 for printing
payroll and there was huge amount of politics with the head of Renton
datacenter ... who had something like $200M-$300M in IBM gear with
360/65s arriving faster than they could be installed (constant boxes
staged in the hallways around the Renton machine room). 747#3 was also
flying skies of Seattle getting FAA flt certification. When I finally
graduate, rather than staying at Boeing ... I went to the IBM science
center at MIT.

I thought Renton datacenter was possibly largest in the world. However,
later I would meet Col. John Boyd and sponsor his briefings at IBM. He
would tell me stories about being in command of "spook base" about the
time I was at Boeing. One of Boyd's biographies mentions "spook base"
was a $2.5B windfall for IBM (ten times Renton datacenter, all late 60s
dollars). "Spook base" reference gone 404, but lives on at wayback
machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

currently reading "The vietnam air war: from the cockpit" ... lots of
different stories by pilots that served in vietnam ... some stories by
people that operated out of "spook base"

Boyd posts & URLs from around web:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:05:50 -1000

jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:

Not anymore.  Doctors used to have their own business.  Now they're
an employee.  Nurses have to join the local union.  That means
that union rules usurp care practices.

accelerated substantially by private-equity ... they acquire businesses
and then extract money in every way possible.

AMEX was in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR,
KKR wins but then runs into trouble and they hire away president
of AMEX to help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

later at the turn of the century, the former AMEX president has become
head of another large private-equity company Barbarians at the Capitol:
Private Equity, Public Enemy
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/barbarians-capitol-private-equity-public-enemy/

Lou Gerstner, former ceo of ibm, now heads the Carlyle Group, a
Washington-based global private equity firm whose 2006 revenues of $87
billion were just a few billion below ibm's. Carlyle has boasted George
H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and former Secretary of State James Baker III
on its employee roster

... snip ...

including acquiring beltway bandit that will employ Snowden.

Private-equity will acquire lots of beltway bandits and help
accelerate large increase in outsourcing to for-profit companies. Part
of the issue is gov. agencies aren't allowed to lobby congress, and
beltway bandits aren't allowed to use money from gov. contracts to
lobby contracts ...  but its seems that there is no limit on
private-equity companies to lobby on behalf of their
subsidiaries. just intelligence, 70% of the budget and over half the
people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us
which also significantly accelerates the rapidly spreading success of
failure culture (more profit from series of failures) ... especially
large dataprocessing related projects
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

However, private-equity also heavily moving into acquiring medical practices
and hospital systems and using every way possible to extract money, even
when illegal (seeing big opportunity with the aging baby boomers)

Private Equity Flouts State Regulations by Buying Medical Practices
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/08/private-equity-flouts-state-regulations-buying-medical-practices.html

Given how state regulators did intervene in the sale of hospitals, their
complacency in the face of what in many states is an illegal practice,
that of non-MDs owning a medical practice, is surprising.

...

So private equity is doing its part to speed up this sorry trend. While
it appears to be too late to harass complicit state regulators with
letters asking them to explain why they are refusing to enforce the law,
the possibility of single payer represents an even bigger monkey wrench
to private equity's exit plans.

... snip ...

... i.e. not just insurance industry threatened by single payer.

posts mentioning private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
success of failure posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
former amex president posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

some past reference mentioning private equity getting into health,
hospital, clinics, dental, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#17 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#48 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#100 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#106 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#107 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#18 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#42 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#30 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#70 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#9 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#65 A call for revolution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#63 GOP introduces plan to massively cut Social Security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#97 In American Towns, Private Profits From Public Works
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#110 The top 50 hospitals that gouge patients the most
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#99 United Air Lines - an OODA-loop perspective

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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:04:28 -1000

jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:

Now read about the Shah of Iran.

yesterday: CIA declassifies more of "Zendebad, Shah!" - internal study
of 1953 Iran coup
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/iran/2018-02-12/cia-declassifies-more-zendebad-shah-internal-study-1953-iran-coup

past, Iran democratically elected leader was going to review the
Anglo-Persion contracts ... and then CIA Confirms Role in 1953 Iran Coup
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB435/
including
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Roosevelt,_Jr.
in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
and to help keep the shah in power, US (including Norman Schwarzkopf
senior) trained
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

The World Crisis, Vol. 1, Churchill explains the mess in middle east
started before WW1 with move from 13.5in to 15in guns (which requires
moving from coal to oil) loc2012-14:

From the beginning there appeared a ship carrying ten 15-inch guns, and
therefore at least 600 feet long with room inside her for engines which
would drive her 21 knots and capacity to carry armour which on the
armoured belt, the turrets and the conning tower would reach the
thickness unprecedented in the British Service of 13 inches.

loc2087-89:

To build any large additional number of oil-burning ships meant basing
our naval supremacy upon oil. But oil was not found in appreciable
quantities in our islands. If we required it, we must carry it by sea in
peace or war from distant countries.

loc2151-56:

This led to enormous expense and to tremendous opposition on the Naval
Estimates. Yet it was absolutely impossible to turn back. We could only
fight our way forward, and finally we found our way to the Anglo-Persian
Oil agreement and contract, which for an initial investment of two
millions of public money (subsequently increased to five millions) has
not only secured to the Navy a very substantial proportion of its oil
supply, but has led to the acquisition by the Government of a
controlling share in oil properties and interests which are at present
valued at scores of millions sterling, and also to very considerable
economies, which are still continuing, in the purchase price of
Admiralty oil.

... snip ...

other drift; I Helped Sell the False Choice of War Once. It's Happening
Again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/opinion/trump-iran-war.html

CIA director Colby refuses to approve "Team B" analysis claiming huge
Russian military capability, justifying huge US military spending
increase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

White House Chief of Staff Rumsfeld replaces Colby with somebody (Bush1)
that will aggree with "Team B" analysis. Rumsfeld then resigns to become
SECDEF (and is replaced by his assistent Cheney).

In the 80s, Bush1 is VP and Rumsfeld is involved in supporting Iraq, US
support Iraq in the iran/iraq war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including supplying WMDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

In the early 90s, Bush1 is president and Cheney is SECDEF. Sat. photo
recon analyst told white house that saddam was marshaling forces to
invade Kuwait. White house said that saddam would do no such thing and
proceeded to discredit the analyst. Later the analyst informed the white
house that saddam was marshaling forces to invade Saudi Arabia, now the
white house has to choose between saddam and the Saudis.
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

This century, Bush2 is president, Cheney is VP, Rumsfeld is SECDEF and
one of the "Team B" members is deputy SECDEF (and major architect of
Iraq policy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

Early in administration, cousin of white house chief of staff Card
... was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that
WMDs (tracing back to US in the Iran/Iraq war) had been
decommissioned. the cousin shared it with Card, Powell and others
... then is locked up in military hospital, book was published in 2010
(after being releaased and before decommissioned WMDs were declassified)
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

NY Times series from 2014, the decommission WMDs (tracing back to US
from Iran/Iraq war), had been found early in the invasion, but the
information was classified for a decade
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

and military-industrial-complex wanted a war so badly that corporate
reps were telling former eastern block countries that if they voted for
IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in NATO and
(directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for purchase of
modern US arms). From the law of unintended consequences, the invaders
were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs, when they got aroundto
going back, over a million metric tons had evaporated.
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

related "economic hit man" ... also sending "capitalists" into loot
countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
https://www.amazon.com/New-Confessions-Economic-Hit-Man-ebook/dp/B017MZ8EBM/

earlier "War Is A Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
https://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated-ebook/dp/B00P8OEFFY/

perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
"Team B" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds

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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:09:12 -1000

PE heavily overlapped with government, Barbarians at the Capitol:
Private Equity, Public Enemy
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/10/barbarians-capitol-private-equity-public-enemy/

Lou Gerstner, former ceo of ibm, now heads the Carlyle Group, a
Washington-based global private equity firm whose 2006 revenues of $87
billion were just a few billion below ibm's. Carlyle has boasted George
H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, and former Secretary of State James Baker III
on its employee roster

... snip ...

including buying up beltway bandits and commpanies doing mercenary work
in perpetual wars (some getting tens of billions in no-bid contracts).

other companies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

as well as medical practices and hospital systems

Private Equity Flouts State Regulations by Buying Medical Practices
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/08/private-equity-flouts-state-regulations-buying-medical-practices.html

however, many of the same people

Former CIA director and then VP repeatedly claimed that he knew
nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

another family member presides over the economic mess, 70 times larger
than the S&L crises. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000
criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess
should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000 criminal convictions with
jailtime.

S&L crises posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crises
economic mess posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess

posts mentioning private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
former amex president posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
success of failure posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
"Team B" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds

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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:28:02 -1000

JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:

Many emergency rooms are a separate company. And the fee is more
likely to cover people who go to the emergency room and don't pay.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#25 Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#26 Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#29 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#30 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#31 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

I once had case where admitted to emergency room, admitting took all
my insurance info which was paid. Turns out emergency room doctors was
a different corporation ... with billing run out of a company several
states away. I got hassling phone calls for 6months because they
couldn't figure out the insurance info ...  i kept telling them if the
emergency room could figure it out why couldn't the emergency room
doctors use the same information. that wasn't in the script for the
person on the other end of the phone line. Emergency room doctors
didn't have the information available to emergency room admitting

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Olympics opening ceremony

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:55:53 -1000

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

Combat between First World nations is a bad idea anyways. But foot
soldiers can get killed in Third World ones.

Solving a problem like Russia is more difficult. Out-waiting and out-
lasting worked with Communism, and while that was quite a surprise, for
Russia's current regime to outlive Putin by much seems unlikely.

Milton Miles book ("Another Kind of War") first half was about going
into china to setup coastal watchers but then spent much of the rest
training 50,000 guerrillas fighting the Japanese. He then spends the
last half of the book about how OSS and Army gave china to the
communists. They came in and wanted to take over the whole
operation. The US Navy and Nationalists rebuffed them, so to get
something they could take credit for, they support the communists.

Without giving China to the communists, there wouldn't be korean war,
domino theory, vietnam war, current nuclear in korea, pakistan and iran,
etc

Tuchman's book (Stilwell biography) has Miles book in the bibliography
but in the body has nothing from his book. She sort of respins Army
giving china to the communists ... that Marshall believed that he needed
Soviets to beat Japan (after the end of war in Germany) ... and so to
appeal to the Soviets, US was giving support to the Chinese
communists. In Manchuria there was 1.5M soviets fighting 1M Japanese. By
comparison okinawa, US had 600k fighting 76k japanese.

However, Miles has Army supporting communists long before the end of
european war and any encouragement for the Soviets to come into the
Japanese war.

Milton also references that there were some number of Chinese Army units
that cooperated with the Japanese ... and towards the end they tried to
come over to the nationalist but the US Army vetoed it, so they went
over to the communists. It was these army units that fought the US in
the Korean war.

Marshall was then SECSTATE (47-49)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marshall
and they turned out a paper trying to absolve State for giving China to
the communists
https://archive.org/details/VanSlykeLymanTheChinaWhitePaper1949

and recent reference to "Is Harvard responsible for the rise of Putin"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#14 Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:18:37 -1000

Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

Private Equity Flouts State Regulations by Buying Medical Practices
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/08/private-equity-flouts-state-regulations-buying-medical-practices.html

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#29 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#30 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#31 free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?

misc. more ...

Big Med; Restaurant chains have managed to combine quality control, cost
control, and innovation. Can health care?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/08/13/big-med
How Not To Fix US Health Care: Copy The Cheesecake Factory
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2012/08/13/how-not-to-fix-us-health-care-copy-the-cheesecake-factory/
HCA: The Unsustainable Private Equity Bubble in US Health Care
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2012/08/15/private-equity-wont-fix-health-care-either/#3e8d2db13735

The NYT article sheds a harsh light on the management practices of
industry giant HCA, which controls 163 hospitals from New Hampshire to
California. HCA has made huge profits--much more than its
competitors--through financial innovation without necessarily providing
benefits to patients or society. HCA has succeeded in:

• Charging more for the same
• Restricting access to low-return services
• Increasing the quantity of lucrative services
• Cutting staff costs

...

The big winners from these practices at HCA have been three private
equity firms--Bain Capital, Merrill Lynch and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts &
Company--that bought HCA in late 2006.

... snip ...

Cerberus Uses Private Equity Looting Strategy With Scandal-Ridden
Steward Health Care Hospitals
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/10/cerberus-uses-private-equity-looting-strategy-to-scandal-ridden-steward-health-care-hospitals.html

private equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

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Olympics opening ceremony

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:22:38 -1000
X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: ---F----

jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:

She does cover what happened to all the supplies which were flown
over the Himalayas to help the China fight Japan.  It ended up in
warehouses instead of being disbursed to the Chinese Army.  This
wasn't discovered until after the war.  China lost a lot of favor
for doing that.

just finished Eisenhower's Cursade In Europe ... large US Army group in
Paris was selling huge amount of military supplies in train carload lots
on the black market ... so such stuff not limited to chinese
nationalists. However, Miles was carrying on winning against Japanese
with what he was getting ... so it couldn't have been everything.

other account of Stilwell in China ...  Stilwell's Command Problems,
Chapter III, The India-Based Air Effort
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-CBI-Command/USA-CBI-Command-3.html

Chinese troops were far easier to supply by air than were U.S. or
British soldiers. The individual Chinese required but three pounds of
rations a day as against the American's five pounds. He did not ask the
variety in his diet that the American demanded. The Chinese was not only
extremely careful of his possessions, in contrast to the habitually
wasteful American soldier, but Chinese units had a way of acquiring
more, and more, and still more equipment, while American units could be
trailed by what they discarded. Consequently,"once Chinese Units were
fully equipped little was ever heard from them except requests for
ammunition, rations, medical supplies and certain short-lived items of
equipment."

But the Chinese had their failings. Every Chinese unit of any size had
its liaison unit of an American officer or two and some enlisted
men. These received their own rations, mail, and supplies by airdrop
through the Chinese division G-4. Somewhere between the Chinese staff
officer and the liaison team, American mail, packages, and supplies
tended to vanish. In the classic Chinese fashion, rations and ammunition
were overordered on the grand scale. Thus in December 1943, the Chinese
38th Division's requisitions were 280 percent in excess of its strength.

Naturally, there were times when even the extraordinary carrying powers
of the Chinese could not cope with this manna raining down. Supply dumps
and less formal caches were left behind, and there was great barter with
the Burmese. When the Yunnan border was approached, pack trains began to
carry American lend-lease to the Yunnan bazaars, as in the days when the
Burma Road was hailed as "China's life line."

... snip ...

but Tuchman (also) doesn't mention Harry Dexter White ... working on
behalf of Stalin ... Stalin wanted to drag Japan into war with
US ... sent draft of demands that White was to include
in US ultimatum to Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note#Interpretations
and Japan makes decision to attack Pearl after the ultimatum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White#Venona_project
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project

also acting as agent for Stalin, in 1943 congress appropriates $200M for
Nationalist, that White manages to divert.

Benn Stein in "The Battle of Bretton Woods" spends pages 55-58
discussing "Operation Snow".
https://www.amazon.com/Battle-Bretton-Woods-Relations-University-ebook/dp/B00B5ZQ72Y/

pg56/loc1065-66:

The Soviets had, according to Karpov, used White to provoke Japan to
attack the United States. The scheme even had a name: "Operation
Snow," snow referring to White.

... snip ...

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

recent posts about harry dexter white:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#90 Economist, Harry Dent Hints: Global Banks Facing a Serious Crisis in Months Ahead
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#91 Godwin's Law should force us to remember & fear our shared heritage with Nazi Germany
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#55 Should America Have Entered World War I?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#18 5 Naval Battles That Changed History Forever
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#4 Mapping the decentralized world of tomorrow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#105 Iraq, Longest War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#28 WW2 Internment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#79 WW II cryptography
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#81 WW II cryptography
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#87 WW II cryptography
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#24 What if the Kuomintang Had Won the Chinese Civil War?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#36 Tech: we didn't mean for it to turn out like this
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017k.html#3 Pearl Harbor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017k.html#5 The 1970s engineering recession
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017k.html#71 Russia Invaded Japanese Islands With U.S. Ships -- After Japan Surrendered
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#49 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks

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Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:10:43 -1000

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

It's because the bible thumpers want to impose their beliefs on
others, whether it's abortion or abolition.

The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless
Organizations
https://www.amazon.com/Starfish-Spider-Unstoppable-Leaderless-Organizations-ebook/dp/B000S1LU3M/

... includes "catalyst" individuals ... get it going ... and then
may be never heard of again, pg102/loc1132-37:

At twenty-five, she married an abolitionist. Her husband introduced her
to many key figures of the abolitionist movement, including Thomas
Clarkson, the champion. "Having read of all these people," Stanton
recalled, "it was difficult to realize as I visited them in their homes
from day to day, that they were the same persons I had so long worshiped
from afar!" But her experience with the abolitionists wasn't all
positive. When Stanton attended an antislavery convention, she was
forced to sit in a segregated, screened-off section reserved for
women. What was more, women were not allowed to speak or vote in the
meeting. How can we fight for slaves' rights, she fumed, while denying
women equal rights?

... snip ...

picks up women equal rights from abolition movement ... and provides
catalyst for Anthony

pg104/loc1164-66

Anthony was as brazen as she was bold. Although it was illegal for women
to vote at the time, Anthony went to a polling place in Rochester, New
York, and demanded to cast her ballot. When the clerk tried to explain
that she couldn't, she threatened to sue him and eventually got her
way. When she was arrested for having voted, she embraced the challenge.

... snip ...

many of the other examples involve internet and/or other recent
distributed operations.

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Olympics opening ceremony

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:53:40 -1000

mausg writes:

The numbers cited for the Russian invasion of Manchuria seemed
skewed, I had books on all that years ago,now they are just
'somewhere' in the pile, and I cannot be bothered.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#33 Olympics opening ceremony

soviet-japanese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War
soviets 1,577,225, japan 983,000

okinawa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa
US 541,000, japanese 76,000

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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Olympics opening ceremony

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:02:13 -1000
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mausg writes:

'No cite but from memory, 'Vinegar'Joe Stillwell , an US general that
was put in charge of one chinese (Nationalist) Army, so despised
Chang- Ki Check (sp?) that after a while he would not even talk to
him. Chang's wife was a member of a powerfull, very corrupt, Chinese
family with high ties to the US government, The Chinese resistance to
Japan tied up large numbers of the Japanese Army for most of the
war,in spite that resistance being split between the factions.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#33 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#37 Olympics opening ceremony

my wife's father was command of engineering combat group and towards
end, frequently ranking officer getting some number of officer daggers
in surrenders ... including concentration camp.  After end of
hostilities, he refused further command in Germany, even when offered
promotion to general (retired in early 60s w/o the promotion). Possibly
as punishment, in 1946 he was sent to China as military advisor to
Chiang Kia-shek ... and brought his family over in 1947 to live in
Nanking.

Soong sisters, my wife's mother talked about going to state dinners,
my wife was too young to go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soong_sisters

Their marriages and alleged motivations have been summarized in the
Maoist saying "One loved money, one loved power, one loved her country"

... snip ...

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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Why China's New Supercomputer Is Only Technically the World's Fastest

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Why China's New Supercomputer Is Only Technically the World's Fastest
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:13:06 -1000

2010 MIT article:

Why China's New Supercomputer Is Only Technically the World's Fastest;
Peak performance doesn't equal sustained performance, and the NVIDIA
GPUs in the Tianhe 1A are especially bad at the latter.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/421584/why-chinas-new-supercomputer-is-only-technically-the-worlds-fastest/

move forward to 2017 MIT article: America Just Can't Match China's
Exploding Supercomputing Power
https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/609468/america-just-cant-match-chinas-exploding-supercomputing-power/

TECH SUPERCOMPUTERS; China Now Has More Supercomputers Than Any Other
Country
http://time.com/5022859/china-most-supercomputers-world/
America second? Yes, and China's lead is only growing
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/05/21/america-second-yes-and-china-lead-only-growing/7G6szOUkTobxmuhgDtLD7M/story.html
China's Tsinghua University dethroned MIT (above) as the top engineering
university in the world in 2015
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/05/21/america-second-yes-and-china-lead-only-growing/7G6szOUkTobxmuhgDtLD7M/story.html

this is 2011 tutorial on radar (including military) but says it needs
3tflops for really advanced, which was beyond 2011 processing

2011 tutorial on DSP, FFT, Radar (part 3)
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1278838
STAP (part 4)
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1278878
SAR (part 5)
https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1278931

latest (2016) international IEEE Radar conference, Guangzhou, China,
papers
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/mostRecentIssue.jsp?punumber=8051143

There are claims that digital signal processing by latest generation of
digital signal processing chips can reduce the number of
transmit/receive pairs in APG-77/79/81/83 by nearly two orders magnitude
w/o loss of capability

significant advances in digital power and processing spurred by
autonomous vehicles, but also useful for military radar (2017 320
t-ops/sec, 100 times 2011 reference).
https://www.fastcompany.com/40479260/nvidia-debuts-a-new-supercomputer-to-power-robotic-taxis-and-delivery-trucks

past posts refeence Radar tutorial
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#40 The F-22 Raptor Is the World's Best Fighter (And It Has a Secret Weapon That Is Out in the Open)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#77 Test Pilot Admits the F-35 Can't Dogfight
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017i.html#78 F-35 Multi-Role

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Olympics opening ceremony

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 08:56:09 -1000

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#33 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#35 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#37 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#38 Olympics opening ceremony

A Chinese Casino Has Conquered a Piece of America
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-15/a-chinese-company-has-conquered-a-piece-of-america

Hu died building what's become, on paper, the most successful gambling
operation in history. In the first half of 2017, table for table,
Imperial Pacific turned over nearly six times more cash than the
fanciest gaming facilities in Macau, which themselves dwarf the activity
in Las Vegas. And that was before Imperial Pacific opened its lavish
megacasino in July.

... snip ...

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Olympics opening ceremony

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Olympics opening ceremony
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:05:05 -1000

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#33 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#35 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#37 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#38 Olympics opening ceremony
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#40 Olympics opening ceremony

Chinese investments in the United States
https://www.aei.org/feature/china-tracker/

hundred billion, about 10% of what is owned in treasuries

The 5 Biggest Chinese Investments In The U.S. In 2016
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellensheng/2016/12/21/5-biggest-chinese-investments-in-us-2016/

It's been a milestone year for Chinese companies investing in the
U.S. According to Mergermarket, Chinese companies invested a total of
$51.09 billion into the U.S. via 65 deals in 2016. That's a 360% surge
from 2015 when Chinese companies invested $11.7 billion. In all, Chinese
investments made up 12% of all inbound mergers & acquisitions in the
U.S. this year, a big step up from previous years when Chinese
investments made up about 2% or so of foreign investments into the
country.

... snip ...

China Owns US Debt, but How Much?
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080615/china-owns-us-debt-how-much.asp

It seems like every American politician and talking head is concerned by
the huge amounts of debt that the U.S. government owes Chinese
lenders. The Chinese do own a lot of U.S. debt -- $1.189 trillion as of
October 2017.

....

Why China Owns So Much US Debt

There are two main economic reasons why Chinese lenders bought up so
many U.S. Treasuries. The first and most important is that China wants
its own currency, the yuan, pegged to the dollar. This has been common
practice for many countries ever since the Bretton Woods Conference in
1944.

... snip ...

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Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:50:14 -1000

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

Consider the following two statements

"I believe there is no God"

"I have no beliefs regarding the existence or otherwise of God(s)"

agnostic can have no belief on the subject
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic

1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (such as God)
is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed
to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

2 : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something
political agnostics

... snip ...

there is also discussion of 2-value logic and what to do by nulls.  I
had worked on the original sql/relational implementation, System/R ...
some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

then got dragged into helping with another kind of relational
implementation ... that had query language that implemented 3-value
logic ... to address some of the problems with SQL 2-value logic

old post on 2/3 value logic comparison
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#40 How to cope with missing values - NULLS?

SQL:
True
Unknown
False

and   T   U   F        or    T   U   F       not
-----------------      ----------------      --------
T     T   U   F        T     T   T   T       T     F
U     U   U   F        U     T   U   U       U     U
F     F   F   F        F     F   U   F       F     T

An alternative 3-value logic:

Logic:
Lo         Falsity.   The stated objective was not met
DontCare   Don't Care The stated objective may have been met
Hi         Truth      The stated objective was met

and   Hi   DC  Lo      or    Hi  DC  Lo      not
------------------     -----------------     ---------
Hi    Hi   Hi* Lo      Hi    Hi  Hi  Hi      Hi    Lo
DC    Hi*  DC  Lo      DC    Hi  DC  Lo*     DC    DC
Lo    Lo   Lo  Lo      Lo    Hi  Lo* Lo      Lo    Hi

• difference in logic operation results compared to SQL.

... snip ...

other past posts mentioning 3-value logic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#75 NULL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#15 Amusing acronym
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005i.html#35 The Worth of Verisign's Brand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#19 Implementation of boolean types
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#20 So what's null then if it's not nothing?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#23 So what's null then if it's not nothing?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#33 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#34 CJ Date on Missing Information
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#22 3 value logic. Why is SQL so special?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#27 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#21 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#30 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#1 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#34 Is the Relational Database Doomed?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#32 Old-school programming techniques you probably don't miss
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#30 SQL injection attack claims 132,000+
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#65 You know you've been Lisp hacking to long when
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#8 Initial ideas (orientation) constrain creativity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#6 "hexadecimal"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#77 Bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#55 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#123 Holy Grail for parallel programming language
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#152 Is true that a real programmer would not stoop to wasting machine capacity to do the assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#175 Holy Grail for parallel programming language
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#63 Do we really?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#24 You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#13 Computers anyone?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#93 The Undoing Project: A Friendship That Changed Our Minds Kindle Edition
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#102 Trump to sign cyber security order
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#34 The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge

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Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 13:51:22 -1000

Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

old post on 2/3 value logic comparison
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#40 How to cope with missing values - NULLS?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#42 Predicting the future in five years as seen from 1983

part of the discussion advises against NULLs because in SQL, they can
result in (query) results that are the inverse of what person would
reasonably expect.

3-value logic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-valued_logic

another place where the inverse of expected results turns up is binary
logic queries when it gets out to 5-6 "and/or" clauses (aka when is
the set, the join or the intersection)

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Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it.
Date: 19 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3247668/internet/think-you-know-web-browsers-take-this-quiz-and-prove-it.html

was working on commercial cluster scaleup with RDBMS vendors and
technical/scientific cluster scaleup with LLNL and other national
labs. Reference to JAN1992 comercial cluster scaleup meeting in
Ellison's conference room.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

By the end of the month, cluster scaleup was transferred, announced as
IBM supercomputer and we were told we couldn't work on anything on
anything with more than four processor ... and we leave a few months
later. Later, some of the Oracle people in Ellison meeting have also
left and are at a small client/server startup responsible for
something called commerce server. We are brought in as consultants
because they want to do payment transactions on their server. The
startup had also invented this technology they called SSL they want to
use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

past posts mentioning HA/CMP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

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More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
Date: 19 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows; More firearms do
not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans
believe the opposite?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/

Violence may be primarily triggered by other violence, but guns make
all this violence worse, research shows.

... snip ...

There is graph showing something like the top 30 causes of deaths in
the U.S. since turn of the century, top of the list is heart disease
accounting for about 50% of the deaths going all they way down to
terrorism accounting for something like .001% ... along with approx
gov spending aggregate plus spending per death. Terrorism has highest
spending both aggregate and especially spending/death (two perpetual
wars approaching $6T when existing long term benefits
included). Various gun related deaths far outrank terrorism

drunk driving is banned/illegal ... so are things like distracted
driving, driving w/o seatbelt, etc. Lots of things that result in
deaths get banned/made illegal as well as things are mandated that
reduce deaths; aka auto bumpers, safety glasses, crash zones, seat
belts, air bags, etc. self driving cars is anticipated to going a very
long way to finally eliminating those problems.

Something similar with smoking, some scientists in the 50s were paid
huge amounts to fabricate, obfuscate, misdirect, reports and "fake
news" to discredit smoking deaths.

More Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mass-shootings-are-contagious/

June1940, Germany had a victory celebration at the NYC Waldorf-Astoria
with major industrialists. Lots of them were there to hear how to do
business with the Nazis
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Called-Intrepid-Incredible-Narrative-ebook/dp/B00V9QVE5O/

Later 5000 industrialists from across the US had conference (also) at
NYC Waldof-Astoria and in part because they had gotten such bad
reputation for the depression and supporting Nazi Germany, they
approved a major propaganda campaign to equate capitalism with
Christianity
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/

part of the result by the early 50s was adding "in god we trust" to
money and "under god" to the pledge of allegiance.

somewhat related, this talks about late 90s, major change in national
chamber of commerce lobbying (on behalf of large corporations)
... that resulted in some local chamber of commerce separating from
the national organization.
https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Machine-Commerce-Corporate-American-ebook/dp/B00NDTUDHA/

John Foster Dulles played major role in rebuilding Germany's economy,
industry and military 20s thru early 40s. The Brothers: John Foster
Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War,
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/

loc905-7:

Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan
& Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there,
including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and
General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active
regardless of political conditions.

loc938-40:

At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace
Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the
Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending
Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying
about Nazism

... snip ...

From the law of unintended consequences; 1943 US Strategic Bombing
Program, they needed German industrial and military targets and
coordinates, they got the information and detailed plans from
wallstreet.

Neil deGrasse Tyson: Scientific Illiteracy Threatens U.S.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/02/neil-degrasse-tyson-scientific-illiteracy-threatens-u-s/

"Command Culture: Officer Education in the U.S. Army and the German
Armed Forces, 1901-1940, and the Consequences for World War II"
highlights difference between US and Germany ... US focused on turning
out conformity and stamping out creativity ... includes reference to
George Marshall at military school was so badly injured in one such
incident that almost couldn't return to school
https://www.amazon.com/Command-Culture-Education-1901-1940-Consequences-ebook/dp/B009K7VYLI/
and on "command culture" ... this is the author at 1st division museum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7unu0fLYvc

book about former co-worker at science center and research
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cool-to-be-clever-edson-hendricks/id483020515?mt=8
bullying part of US education (public and military) for stamping out
creativity and enforcing conformity
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630/
another reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

US education system in general focused on stamping out creativity and
enforcing conformity. Teachers Don't Like Creative Students
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/12/teachers-dont-like-creative-students.html

school systems focused on turning out capitalist workers, stamping out
creativity and enforcing conformity, but had some trade-offs, school
systems focused on turning out capitalist workers, stamping out
creativity and enforcing conformity, but had some trade-offs, citizens
needed to feel that they had something to fight for. On War, The
beautifully reproduced illustrated 1908 edition, with introduction by
Andy McNab, notes by Col. F.N. Maude and brief memoir of General
Clausewitz
https://www.amazon.com/War-beautifully-reproduced-illustrated-introduction-ebook/dp/B00G3DFLY8

from intro of the 1908 edition ... loc394-95:

As long as the Socialists only threatened capital they were not
seriously interfered with, for the Government knew quite well that the
undisputed sway of the employer was not for the ultimate good of the
State.

... snip ...

the government needed general population standard of living sufficient
that soldiers were willing to fight to preserve their way of
life. Capitalists tendency was to reduce worker standard of living to
the lowest possible ... below what the government needed for soldier
motivation ... and therefor needed socialists as counterbalance to the
capitalists in raising the general population standard of living

more conformity (constancy) in producing workers for capitalist
factories ... but also major religious instruction in (government)
schools ...  Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era (Oxford History
of the United States Book 6) (James M. McPherson), pg20/loc484-87

An important purpose of these schools remained the inculcation of
Protestant ethic values "of regularity, punctuality, constancy and
industry" by "moral and religious instruction daily given," according
to the Massachusetts superintendent of schools in 1857. These values,
along with cognitive skills and knowledge, also served the needs of a
growing capitalist economy.

... snip ...

Capitalism wanting large number of obedient workers ... as mentioned
above large capitalism organization approved major progranda program
to equite capitalism with Christianity (especially because the
capitalist organizations had gotten such a bad reputation for the
depression and for supporting Nazis.

Original settlement, Jamestown ... English planning on emulating the
Spanish model, enslave the local population to support the
settlement. Unfortunately the North American natives weren't as
cooperative and the settlement nearly starved. Then they switched to
sending over some of the other populations from the British Isles
essentially as slaves ... the Crown charters had them as "leet-man"
...  Why Nations Fail, pg27:

The clauses of the Fundamental Constitutions laid out a rigid social
structure. At the bottom were the "leet-men," with clause 23 noting,
"All the children of leet-men shall be leet-men, and so to all
generations."

... snip ...

My wife's father was awarded a set of history books from the 1880s for some distinction at west point... by
http://www.colonialdaughters17th.org/

The books characterized that the Scottish emigrants/descendants from
the mid-atlantic states prevailed over the English
emigrants/descendants from states further north ... or otherwise our
country would be much more like rigid English class society with a
Monarch (an earlier version of account about Jefferson and the Bill of
Rights).

somewhat long-winded discussion of 2nd amendmant, including references
to original notes and discussions around constitution and bill of
rights and what lead up to recent (1990s) change in the
interpretation. How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856

The Second Amendment consists of just one sentence: "A well regulated
militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right
of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Today,
scholars debate its bizarre comma placement, trying to make sense of
the various clauses, and politicians routinely declare themselves to
be its "strong supporters." But in the grand sweep of American
history, this sentence has never been among the most prominent
constitutional provisions. In fact, for two centuries it was largely
ignored.

... snip ...

also  politica article:

Many are startled to learn that the U.S. Supreme Court didn't rule
that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to own a
gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller struck down the
capital's law effectively banning handguns in the home.

... snip ...

note that 2008 was also the economic mess and labeling those
responsible as Too Big To Fail ... but not holding them accountable
and nobody doing jailtime.

former CIA director and then VP repeatedly claimed that he knew
nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

another family member presides over the economic mess 70 times larger
than the S&L crises. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000
criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally the economic mess
should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000 criminal convictions
with jailtime.

S&L crises posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#s&l.crisis
economic mess posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#economic.mess

Turns out that TBTF apparently felt they were above the law, besides
nearly bringing down the US economy, they had also been money
laundering for drug cartels and terrorists, facilitating tax evasion
and fraud, manipulating FOREX and LIBOR exchanges ... to name a few.

Articles started appearing about TBTF had also been money laundering
for drug cartels and the money laundering was enabling the drug
cartels to acquire large amount of militerized weapons, driving up
violence on both sides of the border and turning Mexico into another
Columbia. It was in these articles that I first noticed referring to
TBTF as Too Big To Prosecute and Too Big To Jail.

US currently has murder rate (per 100,000 population) that is about
seven times that of China, but only about 1/3rd that of Mexico
... which is so far is only a little over half of that of Columbia
(money laundering by TBTF hasn't yet got violence all the way to
Columbia levels).

posts mentioning too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big
to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
LIBOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

Arms merchants have long history of inciting conflict and supplying
military gear to both sides, large amount of military gear for the
drug cartels ... also motivates local police forces for military gear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarization_of_police

However, a 2017 study showed that police forces which received
military equipment were more likely to have violent encounters with
the public, regardless of local crime rates.[15]

... snip ...

Early part of century, arms merchants wanted a war so badly that
corporate reps were telling former eastern block countries that if
they voted for IRAQ2 invasion in the UN, they would get membership in
NATO and (directed appropriation) USAID (can *ONLY* be used for
purchase of modern US arms). From the law of unintended consequences,
the invaders were told to bypass ammo dumps looking for WMDs, when
they got around to going back, over a million metric tons had
evaporated.
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA

perpetual war posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military-industrial(-congressional) complex posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
team b posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#wmds

some of the same scientists that were paid for articles that on
tobacco smoke not killing, were also paid for articles on acid rain,
ozone hole, global warming, DDT ... and even pushing "TEAM B" analysis
http://www.merchantsofdoubt.org/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003RRXXO8/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

in the "TEAM B" case, there was analysis that Soviet military was
hugely more powerful than it actually was (justifying huge increase in
US budget .... see upthread about "Team B", Colby, Rumsfeld, Cheney,
Bush, Wolfowitz. While Boyd reference about Heritage gave them points
for 1983 analysis similar to Spinney/Boyd ... it says it has
significantly changed since then (also mentioned in the "Merchants of
Doubt" references)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/winslow-t-wheeler/descent-into-ignominy-the_b_1194507.html
Also 1983, I originaly met Boyd after this Spinney article appeared
(gone behind paywall but most lives free at the wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070320170523/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953733,00.html

Boyd would tell story about anticipating SECDEF (Weinberger) would try
and throw both of them into Leavenworth ... even though there was no
classified info ... and had spent 18months getting written
authorization for every piece of information ... but that didn't stop
the SECDEF, fortunately they had congressional cover ... which
wouldn't exist today.

John Boyd's Art of War, Why our greatest military theorist only made
colonel
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/john-boyds-art-of-war/
Spinney tribute to Boyd, behind subscription wall at US Naval
Institute
http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1997-07/genghis-john
lives "free" at
http://radio-weblogs.com/0107127/stories/2002/12/23/genghisJohnChuckSpinneysBioOfJohnBoyd.html

93-100% of climate scientists on side of global warming ... however,
just like in the tobacco industry case, it is possible to pay somebody
to write an opposing view.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange
https://www.salon.com/2014/05/28/wsjs_shameful_climate_denial_the_scientific_consensus_is_not_a_myth/

The first, Joseph Bast, is identified as the president of the
Koch-affiliated Heartland Institute, a veritable machine of climate
denial, with the implicit mission statement of sowing confusion and
dissent about accepted science. (For another standout example of
Bast's opinion writing, try this 1998 editorial asserting that
smoking, in moderation, has "few, if any, adverse health effects.")

... snip ...

more shows up with #2 on times list of those responsible for the
economic mess last decade,
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
before becoming chair of CFTC, Wendy was at Koch brothers Foundation
(wife of #2)
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Mercatus_Center#Connections_to_NFIB_and_Environmental_Deregulation
after getting legislation rolling, wife resigns and joins board of
ENRON and audit committee
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20080711114839/http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Money-History-Billionaires-RadicalRight-ebook/dp/B0180SU4OA/

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Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
Date: 19 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#44 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

Some of the CTSS people
http://multicians.org/thvv/7094.html
went to the 5th flr of tech sq for project mac to do Multics
http://multicians.org/history.html
others went to IBM science center on the 4th flr and did virtual
machines, internal network, lots of online and performance work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
A version of CTSS RUNOFF was redone for CP67/CMS as SCRIPT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TYPSET_and_RUNOFF

Later in 1969, GML was invented at the science center and GML tag
processing was added to SCRIPT (after a decade, it morphs into ISO
international standard SGML, after another decade it morphs into HTML
at CERN, "GML" was chosen from the 1st letters of the inventors last
names).

first webserver in the US was SLAC on VM370 system (descendant of
CP/67), in the 80s, used to have monthly meetings at SLAC
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/firstpages.shtml

former co-worker at science center and research ... responsible for
the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the
beginning until sometime mid-80s), technology also used by corporate
sponsored university network (also larger than arpanet/internet for
some time) ... also references to meeting with the arpanet in the
mid-70s
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cool-to-be-clever-edson-hendricks/id483020515?mt=8
bullying part of US education (public and military) for stamping out
creativity and enforcing conformity
https://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630/
another reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

In the 80s, I had project I called HSDT and we were working with the
Director of NSF and were suppose to get $20M for interconnecting the
NSF supercomputer centers, Then congress cuts the budget, some other
things happen and eventually NSF releases an RFP. Internal politics
prevents us from bidding. The NSF director tries to help by writting
the company a letter (copying the CEO) with support from other
agencies, but that just make the internal politics worse (as does
statements that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of
all RFP responses). As regional networks connect into the centers, it
morphs into the NSFNET backbone (precursor to modern internet)
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/

science center posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
HSDT posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
NSFNET posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
BITNET posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
GML posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
Date: 19 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#44 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#46 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

1979, I get con'ed into doing some LLNL benchmarks on engineering
4341, they were looking at getting 70 4341 for compute farm ... sort
of the leading edge of the coming cluster supercomputing
tsunami. During the 80s, worked various activities packaging large
number of various different processor chips ... and towards the end of
80s started HA/CMP product .... including working on both commercial
and technical cluster scaleup. End of Oct1991, the IBM senior VP
sponsoring the Kingston group retires and their project is
audited. Then there is internal symposium looking for technology to be
used for supercomputer. Contributing factor is that the mainframe DB2
group were complaining if I continued commercial scaleup, it would be
at least five years ahead of them.

17Feb1992 press, cluster scaleup for technical & scientific only
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
11May1992 press, surprised by national lab interest in cluster
supercomputer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

During the same period we were also working with LLNL on porting their
supercomputer filesystem to RS/6000 clusters and released as product
(UNITREE).

HA/CMP posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

other triva: 1980 I got con'ed into doing channel extender for STL
(now silicon valley lab) ... had been opened in 1977, but already
bursting at the seams. They were looking at moving 300 people from the
IMS group to offsite bldg. They tried "remote" 3270 terminal support
and found human factors totally unacceptable (since they were used to
VM370/CMS direct channel attached 3270 controllers). The channel
extender allowed channel attached controllers to be placed at the
offsite bldg and they didn't notice any difference in human factors.

The hardware vendor then wanted IBM to allow my support be release,
however there was some people in POK playing with some serial stuff
that got it vetoed (they were worried that if it was in the market, it
would make it more difficult to get their stuff released). Then in
1988, I'm asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were
playing with, which quickly becomes fibre channel standard (including
some stuff that I had done in 1980). Finally in 1990, the POK people
get their stuff released as ESCON when it is already obsolete. Later
some POK engineers start working with FCS and define a heavy weight
protocol that drastically reduces throughput that is eventually
released as FICON. Latest FICON peak I/O published benchmark is z196
getting 2M IOPS using 104 FICON (running over 104 fibre channel
standard). Approximately same time a fibre channel is announced for
E5-2600v1 blade claiming over million IOPS (two such fibre channel
standard having higher throughput than 104 FICON running over 104
fibre channel).

channel extender posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender
ficon posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

more trivia: also in Kingston was Clementi's E&S center that had 20
x64 Floating Point Systems boxes. Some of the work with the E&S center
... for a time, I also had a HSDT T1 (1.5mbit/sec) directly into their
center. One of the places that FPS beat 3090VF was direct HIPPI
40mbyte/sec disk array support. Eventually somebody did a 3090 hack
that could splice HIPPI into extended store bus ... using peak/poke
paradigm to control transfers.

HSDT posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

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OT: Farewell to 747 in U.S. service

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: OT:  Farewell to 747 in U.S. service
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:28:13 -0800

hancock4 writes:

For the first time in 48 years, you can't buy a ticket on a US
airline to fly on a Boeing 747. On Wednesday, Delta Air Lines
Flight 9771 touched down in Marana, Arizona, an arid boneyard
for stored and cannibalized jetliners. A three-hour-and-33-minute
journey from Atlanta.  The last of the airline's 16 jumbo
Boeing 747-400s flew to a desert retirement, ending operations
by passenger airlines in the United States.  Both Delta and
United Airlines have been saying goodbye to the jumbo for
months. A final domestic revenue flight, a last international
trip, a final charter. Those last trips became more of a
farewell tour than a formal end.  But Wednesday's departure on
ship 6314 was the true grand finale.

full article with details and photos at:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/delta-boeing-747-retirement-flight/index.html

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#28 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018.html#55 Now Hear This--Prepare For The "To Be Or To Do" Moment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#28 Important US technology companies sold to foreigners

took 2hr intro to computing at univ, following year I was hired fulltime
employee to be responsible for the IBM production mainframe systems.
Still undergraduate, summer 1969 was hired into the small group
(although I had taught them a one week, 40hr dataprocessing class during
spring break) attached to CFO in corporate hdqtrs (across from boeing
field) to help form Boeing Computer Service (consolidate all
dataprocessing in an independent business unit to better monetize the
investment, even offering services to non-Boeing entities). Sold to
SAIC in 1999
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/1999-06-11-Boeing-Announces-SAIC-to-Purchase-Boeing-Information-Services

I got basement apartment from 747 engineer & 747#3 was flying skies of
Seattle getting FAA flt certification.  There was some conflict between
CFO and head of Renton datacenter ...  CFO had 360/30 for printing
payroll, while Renton datacenter had something like $200M-$300M in IBM
mainframes, 360/65s were arriving faster than they could be installed,
boxes were constantly being staged in the hallways around the machine
room. There was also disaster plans to replicate the Renton datacenter
up at the new 747 plant at Paine field in Everett .... almost 49yrs ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747#Background

Early 80s, for some transgressions, I was transferred from San Jose
Research to Yorktown Research ... continued to live in San Jose, but had
to commute to Yorktown once or twice a month. I would work in San Jose
area on Monday and then catch the SFO->Kennedy redeye monday night and
be at YKT tuesday morning ... and then return Thursday or Friday
afternoon. Did a lot of PanAm 747 (also TWA, American) ... until they
sold their pacific routes & 747s to United ... and then sometimes flew a
(former) PanAm 747 ... but had United logo.
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/23/business/pan-am-plans-sale-of-pacific-routes-to-united-airlines.html

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
Date: 20 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#44 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#46 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#47 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

trivia: the supercomputer technology conference (searching for
supercomputer technology) that happened between the end of OCT1991
when the senior VP retired, that had been sponsoring the kingston
supercomputer group (and the resulting audit of the project) and the
end of Jan1992 when our cluster scaleup was transferred and we were
told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors
... there was an Austin engineer working on cluster scaleup that
wanted to present at the conference. We advised him not to present
because he didn't understand how internal corporate politics work
... and it would only end badly. He went ahead and made the
presentation anyway and things ended badly. some old email on cluster
scaleup from that period (part of it code name medusa)
... 10SEPT1991-29Jan1992 (hours before we were told of transfer and
not allowed to work on anything with more than four processors)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

this email on 29Jan1992 reference to big LLNL meeting earlier in the
week, but two of the other (non-IBM) attendees dropped by to fill me
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email920129

and as previously mentioned 17Feb1992 press, referencing new
supercomputer announced for technical & scientific *ONLY*
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
and 11May1992 press, referencing IBM taken by "surprise" by the
national labs interest in cluster supercomputing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

other email trivia regarding 4341 (including RAIN/RAIN4 benchmark, 70
4341s for computer farm)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

HA/CMP posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

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Nostalgia

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Nostalgia
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:12:03 -0800

Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:

Exactly. Might be worth recounting this story (possibly a repeat, but...)

About 15 years ago I had a need for a particular program on a PC. It was
a one-off, and it had to be in BASIC, as the machine wasn't connected to
anything else - all I could do was move small files using INTERLNK/
INTERSVR (remember those?)

I searched the Internet and found an ideal program. I downloaded it,
transferred it to the PC and it did exactly what I wanted.

Being me, I had a look at the source code. The more I looked at it, the
more mystified I became by the style of programming. It was how I might
have written it.

Then it hit me. I *had* written it, a further 15 years before. I had sent
it to various people but not bothered keeping a copy. It had come back to
me!

former co-worker at science center and research was responsible for the
internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the
beginning until sometime mid-80s) ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
which was also used for the corporate sponsored university network
(also larger than arpanet/internet for a time) some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

in the 80s, he had left IBM and was working for company that did a lot
of real-time stuff and he was working with major real-time system and
noticed code that he thot was familiar. The supervisor contained module
that was seemed same as his RSCS/VNET MSUP routine (from 15yrs
earlier), a nearly line-for-line translation from 360 assembler to
C, included retaining the original comments. past refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#32 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#34 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?

His RSCS/VNET MSUP dates back to the 60s, before 23JUNE1969 unbundling
and starting to separately charge for lots of stuff, including software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundling

after the unbundling announce, IBM had internal people going back and
adding "COPYRIGHT" statements to the front of every source routine.
example from long ago and far away:

*********************************************************************** 00002000
***                                                                 *** 00003000
***           5748-XE1 - COPYRIGHT IBM CORPORATION - 1978, 1979     *** 00004000
***           LICENSED MATERIAL - PROGRAM PROPERTY OF IBM           *** 00005000
***           REFER TO COPYRIGHT INSTRUCTIONS:  FORM G120-2083      *** 00006000
***                                                                 *** 00007000
*********************************************************************** 00008000

more recently, I was somewhat surprised when something similar happened
to IETF/ISOC Internet standards documents ... something about original
authors retains rights (and use may require obtaining the authors
permissions) ... previously IETF had made transition from no copyright
notice to:

Full Copyright Statement

Copyright (C) The Internet Society (xxxx).  All Rights Reserved.

This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and
distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind,
provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are
included on all such copies and derivative works.  However, this
document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing
the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other
Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of developing
Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined
in the Internet Standards process must be followed, or as required to
translate it into languages other than English.

The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.

... snip ...

I had done some work with documents under the above copyright and then
was contacted by author of various RFC standards that I had used ... and
tried to apply the latest IETF/ISOC copyright retroactively to all his
earlier RFCs. I had to spend over a thousand (of my own money) on
copyright lawyer to explain it to the author and his representative.

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#5 Internet today -- what's left for hobbiests
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#12 Reverse or inverse ARP from windows/linux - no way (!?!?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#56 Reverse or inverse ARP from windows/linux - no way (!?!?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#83 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#83 Today, the IETF Turns 25
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#95 56kbit modems

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More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
Date: 20 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#45 More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

so does increase in guns have no effect on stopping more crime ... or
possibly does increase in guns, result in increase in crime offsetting
any counter effects it might have on decreasing crime.

this somewhat along the lines of Kahneman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman
and
https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman-ebook/dp/B00555X8OA/
https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds/dp/0393254593/

Kahneman, a psychologist got 2002 nobel prize in economics, in part
for debunking economic theories that were especially popular with the
1980s administration, appealing theoretical ideas about how people may
operate economically, turned out to not be true.

in fact, 80s administration, former CIA director and then VP
repeatedly claimed that he knew nothing about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

last decade, another family member presides over the economic mess 70
times larger than the S&L crises. S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal
referrals and 1000 criminal convictions with jailtime, proportionally
the economic mess should have 2.1M criminal referrals and 70,000
criminal convictions with jailtime.

other random, there have been lots written about FBI having difficulty
adapting to gun toting bank robberies is now totally dwarfed by white
collar & cyber bank thefts (billions instead of hundreds or
thousands). Bank Examiner during the S&L crises where deregulation
allowed crooks to buy banks (Keating sent memo included: 'get Black --
kill him dead').
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black
and wrote: "Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One"
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Way-Rob-Bank-Own-ebook/dp/B00H5B9Z80/

Bank regulator in the 80s that refused to go along with the
deregulation was told that he served at the discretion of the
president, he was then replaced by somebody that would go along.

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Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
Date: 20 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#44 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#46 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#47 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#49 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

note post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#83
with 17Feb1992 news (IBM announces new supercomputer lab)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1

also has article: Subject: "Foray into Mainstream for Parallel
Computing" Source: NY Times, 6/15/92, pg C1, John Markoff

and post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#70
with 11May1992 news
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

has several other supercomputer related articles. Including references
to Chen Supercomputer which was being funded by the (original)
Kingston Supercomputer group (in addition to designing their own
traditional supercomputer)

ha/cmp posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

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Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
Date: 20 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#44 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#46 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#47 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#49 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#52 Think you know web browsers? Take this quiz and prove it

from one of the supercomputer news articles (15June1992)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#83

'In fact, IBM is said to be planning to demonstrate a
32-microprocessor version of its most powerful mainframe computers
later this year'

mainframe shared memory multiprocessor rather than cluster
("loosely-coupled"), actually didn't get 16way until 2000DEC and 32way
2003:

z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
z13, 140 processors, 100BIPS (710MIPS/proc), Jan2015
z14, 170 processors, 150BIPS (862MIPS/proc), Aug2017

SMP posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

trivia: late 80 & early 90s, in addition to being asked to help
LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were playing with (which
quickly becomes fibre channel standard) and doing our HA/CMP product
including cluster scaleup ... was also asked to participate in
(originally) SLAC's SCI ... serial fiber that defined shared memory
interconnect (similar to fibre channel standard, but
different). Standard SCI shared memory interconnect definition was
"64-port", Sequent and Data General, did 256 processor version using
64 four intel processor boards and Convex did 128 processor version
using 64 two HP Snake processor boards. SGI also used version of SCI
for 256 processor. After leaving IBM did some consulting for both
Convex and Sequent (Steve Chen was then at Sequent as CTO, before IBM
bought Sequent and shut it down).

more trivia: 1st part of 70s was Future System effort, completely
different than 370 which it was going to completely replace. Internal
politics was shutting down 370 efforts (lack of new 370 products is
credited with giving market foothold to the 370 system clone
makers). When FS imploded there was mad rush to get new stuff back
into 370 product pipelines ... including kicking off 3033 and 3081 in
parallel
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

3033 started out remapping 168-3 to 20% faster chips. I had gotten
involved in project to do 16-way SMP 370 and got 3033 processor
engineers involved in their spare time (lot more interesting than what
they were doing). At first POK thought it was really great, but then
somebody told the head of POK that it could be decades before the POK
favorite son operating system (MVS) had effective 16-way support. Then
several of us were invited to never visit POK again and the 3033
processor engineers needed to get their noses back to the grindstone
and stop being distracted.

other trivia: z196 @50BIPS did peak I/O benchmark at 2M IOPS with 104
FICON (see refs earlier in thread). At that time e5-2600v1 blades
(with single fibre channel announced supporting over million IOPS) had
versions that ranged from 400BIPS to 530BIPS. A few high density racks
of e5-2600v1 blades could have more processing power than aggregate of
all operational IBM mainframes at the time.

FICON posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

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Brain size of human ancestors evolved gradually over 3 million years

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Brain size of human ancestors evolved gradually over 3 million years
Date: 20 Feb 2017
Blog: Facebook

Brain size of human ancestors evolved gradually over 3 million years
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-02/uocm-bso022018.php

other evolution references:

How Has the Human Brain Evolved?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-has-human-brain-evolved/
What does it mean to be human?
http://humanorigins.si.edu/human-characteristics/brains
The evolution of modern human brain shape
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/1/eaao5961.full
From Primitive Parts, A Highly Evolved Human Brain
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129027124
Decoding human brain evolution
https://hms.harvard.edu/giving/hms-donors/stories/decoding-human-brain-evolution
Researchers Map Out Genetic 'Switches' Behind Human Brain Evolution
http://www.sciencenewsline.com/news/2018011211120073.html

Evolution of the human brain: when bigger is better
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3973910/
A natural history of the human mind: tracing evolutionary changes in brain and cognition
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2409100/
The reptilian brain
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4406946/

note several of the NIH references give the NIH urls for abstract/summary

topic drift/trivia: in 1990s did some work with NIH National Library
of Medicine regarding UMLS and the organization of medical knowledge
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/
https://semanticnetwork.nlm.nih.gov/
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/factsheets/umlsmeta.html

at the time, they was still a couple of people that had done their
original online implementation back in the 60s. We had some notes to
compare since when I was at the university in the 60s, the university
library had gotten an ONR grant to do online catalog and helping get
it up and running was added to my tasks. Both the implementations were
IBM mainframe using BDAM files ... and in the 90s, NLM was still using
that implementation.

one of the issues was by 1980, there were so many items in NLM that
simple online query would return hundred of thousand of matches. To
restrict the number of matches required adding qualifying terms
... however out around 5-7 terms, responses became bimodel ... either
thousands of matches or zero matches. The holy grail became search
term combinations that would return less than hundred matches but more
than zero. Organizations using NLM tended to develop specialized NLM
search librarians, a researcher would describe what they were
interested in ... and typically would get reasonable sets of
references within 3-4 days.

past posts mentioning UMLS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#26 Misc. more on bidirectional links
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#27 History of Microsoft Word (and wordprocessing in general)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#1 Off-topic everywhere [was: Re: thee and thou
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#45 XML, AI, Cyc, psych, and literature
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#50 XML, AI, Cyc, psych, and literature
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#53 c.d.theory glossary (repost)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#7 The Network Data Model, foundation for Relational Model
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#52 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#67 Relational vs network vs hierarchic databases
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#0 Relational vs network vs hierarchic databases
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#57 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#45 Where should the type information be?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005j.html#47 Where should the type information be?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#74 Speculation ONLY
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#10 Boyd & Beyond 2010, review at Zenpundit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#39 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#87 Old data storage or data base
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#77 Bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#55 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016d.html#36 The Network Nation, Revised Edition
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#14 Fast OODA-Loops increase Maneuverability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017f.html#34 The head of the Census Bureau just quit, and the consequences are huge
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#57 Stopping the Internet of noise
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#94 What is SQL? The language of databases

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