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2015 Newsgroup Postings (03/20 - 04/30)

past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
MILITARY MODERNIZATIONAND THE RUSSIAN GROUND FORCES
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
Mandated Spending
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
Mandated Spending
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America
Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
With the U.S. F-35 Grounded, Putin's New Jet Beats Us Hands-Down
Retirement Heist
Retirement Heist
Robots have been running the US stock market, and the government is finally taking control
SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
Have the Banks Escaped Criminal Prosecution because They're Spying Surrogates?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
30 yr old email
Why Doesn't the Intelligence Community Care Whether Its Surveillance Programs Work?
30 yr old email
FBI wants 'legislative fix' on device encryption
OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes
30 yr old email
Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
IBM Z13
IBM Z13
IBM Z13
PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot
Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!
30 yr old email
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
IBM Z13
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Virtual Memory Management
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
John Titor was right? IBM 5100
April 1 RFC
John Titor was right? IBM 5100
The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
John Titor was right? IBM 5100
The Stack Depth
The Stack Depth
Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
The Stack Depth
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
The Stack Depth
Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
The Stack Depth
30 yr old email
production machines with paging hardware, The Stack Depth
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
A New Performance Model ?
Messing Up the System/360
The Stack Depth
30 yr old email
A New Performance Model ?
God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
A New Performance Model
IBM, Fujifilm cram 220TB of data onto tape-based storage that fits in your hand |
EMV: Why the US migration didn't happen sooner
N.Y. Bank Regulator Says Third-Party Vendors Provide Backdoor to Hackers
Hillary Remains Clueless About Regulation on the 28th Anniversary of the Keating Five Meeting
Your earliest dream?
Deutsche Bank Said Near $1.5 Billion Settlement on Libor
French set euro¬1b bail as HSBC probe goes beyond Swiss branch
Belvedere Management: Massive Criminal Enterprise or Defamed Fund Manager?
Moody's Has a Cow, Slams GE's Masterful Financial Engineering
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
Your earliest dream?
Your earliest dream?
Critique of System/360, 1967
DEBE?
HONE Shutdown
VM370 Logo Screen
DEBE - card alternative
Data breach notification bill could weaken consumer protections
Booz Allen Wolves Offer Advice on Protecting NSA Henhouse
VNET 1983 IBM
Cyber Threat Sharing is Great in Theory, But Tough in Practice
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
auto-reboot
On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
crash, restart, and all that, was Your earliest dream?
Occupy Democrats
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:44:09 -0700
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
Where's 617 Squadron when you need them? _The_Dam_Busters_ recounts a raid on another bridge where a 12,000-pound Tallboy hit one end and a 22,000-pound Grand Slam hit the other. The entire bridge rose straight up into the air, and at the peak of its travel it was hit in the middle by another Grand Slam, blowing it to smithereens.

note the 60ft above the water:
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/dambusters.htm

not strategic bombing at 25k-30k ft or higher. big difference between low-level tactical bombing and close air support ... and strategic bombing from several miles above the ground.

arnold & lemay claiming that the war could be won just with strategic bombing (sort of like Goering at Dunkirk) ... sharp contrast to oct1944 strategic bombing survey found that it represented 1/3rd of the cost of ww2 and contributed little to the war effort
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

one of the "battle of britain" sessions talked about lindbergh "front" in visits to germany in the 30s were to gather intelligence and report back to arnold/lemay ... however US public press really treated him badly ... in sharp contrast to the treatment of Dulles who was actually instremental in rebuilding german economy & war industry.

recent posts mentioning strategic bombing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

recent posts mentioning Dulles:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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MILITARY MODERNIZATIONAND THE RUSSIAN GROUND FORCES

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: MILITARY MODERNIZATIONAND THE RUSSIAN GROUND FORCES
Date: 20 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
MILITARY MODERNIZATIONAND THE RUSSIAN GROUND FORCES (Rod Thornton)
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=1071

loc270-72:
Thus it became Serdyukov's principal aim to reduce the entire military's officer strength by 200,000. He wanted to see officers constituting only some 15 percent of the total military strength, and not the 30 or so percent that they did constitute.25

... snip ...

sounds like a periodic theme that Boyd would voice about US military (or many of several articles since then).

posts & URLs mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

It goes into some detail that it wasn't going well, their MICC has as many ways of obstructing change as ours. However, that changed after the Georgia debacle(?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

... eliminate 2yr draft, go for professional solider, reducing percent officers form 30 to 15 while increasing lieutenants by 10,000, change from 203 divisions to 83 brigades. It claims that (after Georgia) it was scheduled to be done by 2016 ... but had reached it by 2012. It is not very long paper and free to download.

Boyd organic design for command and control briefings would contrast WW2 german military requiring 3% officers while US was 11% and growing fast. His bottom line was that it shouldn't be command&control but leadership&appreciation ... rather than having to control every aspect, it was possible to to trust the people to do their job. There is periodic theme that even with the current extremely bloated US officer corps ... it still requires lots of stuff to get up the chain of command for micro-management and the elapsed time it takes can adversely affect many efforts. As an aside ... there seems to sometimes be obfuscation and misdirection claiming that new (electronic/cyber) technology can get stuff up and back the chain of command "faster" (shortening the delay) ... when the real bottleneck is the high level micromanagement.

somewhat ends with attempting to address NCO problem with 3yr NCO training school followed by min. 5yr service ... turning out 10,000. It made point that prior to reducing conscription to 1yr ... some were in long enough for some to move into lower NCO ranks

First time I sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM research the spring of '83, he hadn't finished organic design ... but the next briefing I sponsored later in '83 he had finished organic design and wanted to try briefing both patterns of conflict and organic design in single day ... which made for long day. He was making the point that rigid, top-down command&control of former military officers were starting to contaminate US corporate culture ... but as I said, it was in this period that articles started to appear that MBAs and myopic focus on quarterly results was destroying US companies.

from the start, with reference to how the rigid, top-down command and control structure permeate the organization, Boyd included example of warroom operation in "organic design" briefings. Advances in electronic/cyber funneled enormous amounts into the warroom ... Boyd would characterize that the generals&admirals spent their time golfing while their staffs practiced in the warrooms ... then when it came to actual wargames, the generals&admirals had no fingerfeel for the information or tempo of the activity.

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 16:43:31 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
part of the issue was that Soviets had been moving supplies & plants to the east as the German's advanced ... and as the German's advanced the lengthening German supply line was increasingly becoming major factor in its ability to wage war. The increasing distance was also adversely affecting the luftwafte being able to perform close air support.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#84 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

aka it wasn't if the german offensive in russia would grind to a halt ... but when. hitler had hoped that when threatened Stalin would ask for truce ... but that wasn't going to happen.

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How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
Date: 20 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#75 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete

The F-35 Is Still FUBAR; A new report raises serious questions about the safety and performance of the most expensive jet fighter ever made
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/f35-jet-fighter-safety-problems
The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter remains years away from combat readiness
http://fortune.com/2015/03/18/f35-joint-strike-fighter/

Throwing Off the CAS Yoke, Part I: Shifting Rhetoric
http://www.jqpublicblog.com/throwing-off-the-cas-yoke-part-i-shifting-the-rhetoric/

Here Is A List Of All The Problems With The F-35
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2015/03/here-is-list-of-all-problems-with-f-35.html
Pentagon: Here are all the problems with the F-35
http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-all-the-problems-with-the-f-35-that-the-pentagon-found-in-a-2014-report-2015-3
The Disappointment That Is the F-35
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/the_disappointment_that_is_the_f35.html
The F-35 Is Still FUBAR
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/f35-jet-fighter-safety-problems

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

other recent A-10/F-35 posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#9 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#11 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#16 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#18 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#21 IBM ushers in BIGGEST EVER re-org for the cloud era, say insiders
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#49 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#58 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#61 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#66 fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil

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Mandated Spending

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Mandated Spending
Date: 21 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/jiUw4QPh9aZ

supposedly social security was set up as pension funds, people pay in, building up large reserves that are available to pay out when they retire. the administration in the 80s looked at the large reserves and decided to steal it all (looting the SS trust fund, akin to what happened to the teamster pension fund), since it would be a long time before the people paying in would be retiring and notice it was gone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Trust_Fund

the baby boomers are a result of drop in birth rate during ww2 followed by big spike when the men came back. As a result there are four times as many baby boomers as the generation before and twice as many as the generation after (boom/bubble in babies). as baby boomers came to working age there was big spike in payments into the fund; aka four times as many workers paying in as retirees collecting benefits, resulting in rapid growth in the reserves. By the 80s this became fairly substantial attractive target for looting.

Also on year to year accounting basis, there was substantially more being paid in than was going out (again baby boomers four times as many working as the generation collecting benefits). Once they finished looting the reserves, they also skim the yearly excess in amount going in compared to amount going out. By the time baby boomers enter retirement, the crooks hope to be long gone.

However, as baby boomers replace the previous generation in retirement, the yearly excess paid in drops to zero (working baby boomers being replaced by the following generation only half as large) and then goes negative. Trying to mask the looting of the SS trust fund and past skimming, attempts are made to focus attention only on the year-to-year pension collections and payouts ... which are going negative (because of the transition of the baby boomers into retirement being replaced by generation only half as large), an attempt is made that the baby boomer retirement benefits have to be substantially cut ... because it isn't fair to double the taxes on the following generation (and the fat cats used to getting the yearly skim are still at the federal trough).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_spending

Something similar happened with looting the big reserves in the (baby boomers) private pension funds.

Securitized mortgages had been used during S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages, but without triple-A rating they had limited market. Late 90s, I'm asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages (as countermeasure). The loan originators then find that they can pay the rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and rating agencies know they aren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that the rating agencies played). The triple-A ratings trump documents and they can start doing no-down, no-documentation liar loans, package in CDO, pay for triple-A rating and sell to institution funds that are restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds) ... eventually doing over $27T last decade:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

There are reports as a result of large public&private pension funds a major factor in the $27T triple-A rated toxic securitized loans/mortgages, they loose 20-30% (aka has been looted) .... which is contributing factor in claims that pensions are now underfunded by trillions of dollars.

toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

2010 CBO had a report that previous decade tax revenue was cut $6T and spending increased by $6T (compared to baseline budget, which would have had all federal debt gone in 2010 ... and SS trust fund restored), for $12T budget gap (by 2010).

Congress had let the fiscal responsibility act (required that spending couldn't exceed revenue) expire in 2002.

Congress savaging of the budget was getting so bad by the middle of the last decade, the comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic.

The first major legislation after fiscal responsibility act expired, was part-d drug act ... the comptroller general described as a long-term $40T item that comes to swamp all other budget items. It has been described as enormous gift to the drug industry ... cbs 60mins did segment on the 18 republican staffers and members of congress responsible for getting it thru ... after it passes, all 18 have resigned and are on drug industry payroll. Just before the final vote, the 18 add a one liner that prevents competitive bidding. 60mins show identical drugs under VA (that has competitive bidding) that are 1/3rd the cost of same drug from part-d.

Trillion Dollar Fraudsters
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/opinion/paul-krugman-trillion-dollar-fraudsters.html

fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general
medicare part-d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d

recent posts mentioning baby boomers:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#46 The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#67 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#42 COBOL will outlive us all
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#38 Russia to buy no more foreign drones
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#89 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#83 What Makes travel Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#65 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#23 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#80 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#6 Barclays, Traders Fined $487.9 Million by U.S. Regulator
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#21 The PDP-8/e and thread drifT?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#22 US Federal Reserve pushes ahead with Faster Payments planning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#75 Bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#15 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#38 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#73 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#86 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#71 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#91 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#128 How Much Bandwidth do we have?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#33 OT: article on foreign outsourcing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#42 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:57:35 -0700
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
If NATO goes to war over imaginary threats, its not worth the paper to clean up after. This idiocy is from the same source that gave us 'Iraq's threat of WMD'

(at least) germany & france were opposed to the invasion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_Iraq_War

at least part of the reason that corp. reps were lobbying former eastern block countries to vote for the "invasion of iraq" in the UN ... offering NATO member in return as well as (directed appropriation) USAID to purchase new military equipment (from US companies) recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#74 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

other recent WMD posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#0 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#67 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

the underlying motivation has always tended to be war profiteering .... somewhat related

A Family Business of Perpetual War
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/

posts mentioning "perpetual war" theme
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
and the military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
Date: 22 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/KwWR4JpkdDk

SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/secs-andrew-bowden-regulatory-capture-scandal-hits-the-major-leagues-with-los-angeles-times-column.html

also
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video

partially related
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

recent refs

The SEC's Andrew Bowden: A Regulator for Sale?
http://billmoyers.com/2015/03/19/secs-andrew-bowden-regulator-sale/
Fed whistleblower quits Wall Street, weighs book
http://nypost.com/2015/03/20/fed-whistleblower-quits-wall-street-weighs-book/

whisleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
in the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
in the wake of ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
congress passes Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
claiming that it would prevent future ENRONS, guaranteeing that executives & auditors would do jail time for fraudulent financial reports. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of fraudulent financial filings, even show an increase after SOX (and nobody doing jail time)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
SOX also required that SEC do something about the rating agencies ... but apparently nothing happened. In the financial mess, the rating agencies were given triple-A ratings to toxic CDOs (when both the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the rating agencies played in financial mess)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

other past refs on the subject:

Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/choice-of-mary-jo-white-to-head-sec-puts-fox-in-charge-of-hen-house-20130125
"Something Sinister About the Lack of Prosecutions at Lehman Brothers"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/ian-fraser-something-sinister-about-the-lack-of-prosecutions-at-lehman-brothers.html
For Once, Maybe Lying Does Not Pay: Do's Lanny Breuer Resignation Leaked After Frontline Appearance
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/for-once-maybe-lying-does-not-pay-dojs-lanny-breuer-resigns-abruptly-after-frontline-appearance.html
Mary Jo White: Next SEC Chief's "Skeleton in Closet"
http://econintersect.com/b2evolution/blog2.php/2013/02/02/mary-jo-white-next-sec-chief-s-skeleton-in-closet
How Wall Street Lied to Its Computers
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/how-wall-streets-quants-lied-to-their-computers/
The SEC's Revolving Door
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/reports/sec-revolving-door.html
Dangerous Liaisons: Revolving Door at SEC Creates Risk of Regulatory Capture
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/reports/2013/dangerous-liaisons-revolving-door-at-sec.html
• 20130211 Dangerous Liaisons Sec Revolving Door (PDF)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/602191/20130211-dangerous-liaisons-sec-revolving-door.pdf
• 20130211 Dangerous Liaisons Sec Revolving Door (Text)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/602191/20130211-dangerous-liaisons-sec-revolving-door.txt
S.E.C.'s Revolving Door Hurts Its Effectiveness, Report Says
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/s-e-c-s-revolving-door-hurts-its-effectiveness-report-says/
Senator Sherrod Brown Drops a Bombshell in Mary Jo White's Hearing
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/03/senator-sherrod-brown-drops-a-bombshell-in-mary-jo-whites-hearing/
When You Weren't Looking, Democrat Bank Stooges Launch Bills to Permit Bailouts, Deregulate Derivatives
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/when-you-werent-looking-democrat-bank-stooges-launch-bills-to-permit-bailouts-deregulate-derivatives.html

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Mandated Spending

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Mandated Spending
Date: 22 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending

What Happened to the $2.6 Trillion Social Security Trust Fund?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2011/07/13/what-happened-to-the-2-6-trillion-social-security-trust-fund/

there are several reasons that institutions would support big influx in illegal workers ... one being corporations being able to pay sub-leagal wages

in the 90s, when congress said it would address the problem once and for all ... it had GAO do a study of illegal worker costs ... which found that it cost $10K/year/worker more in public benefits and services, than they received in wages ... effectively a gov. subsidy to the illegal workers' employers. there is a meme that what you don't see can be more important than what you do see ... in this case, I've been unable to find an update on those 90s GAO reports.

another scenario is with the baby boomer generation (entering retirement) is twice as large as the following generation (that are the replacement workers) .... they need to obfuscate the looting of the SS Trust Fund ... by attempting to augment those workers paying into SS with foreign workers ... aka unable to pay baby boomer retirement benefits from accrued trust fund, they have to pay from current collections ... which is not supportable once all the baby boomers are in retirement. However as a sustainable strategy rather than pure obfuscation, they need workers that are paid more than the public services/benefits that they use/receive. There may have also been tacit approval of wallstreet looting the other pension funds (during the economic mess) ... as strategy that baby boomers need to continue working and not start drawing benefits.

past posts mentioning illegal worker/alien
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#70 illegal aliens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#79 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#81 illegal aliens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007q.html#61 Horrid thought about Politics, President Bush, and Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#46 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#17 The Return of Ada
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#55 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#70 Zakaria: Only China can save Europe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#30 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#48 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#93 Maximizing shareholder value: The Goal that changed corporate America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#55 Maximizing shareholder value: The goal that changed corporate America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#55 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#12 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#110 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#162 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#169 LEO

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:34:06 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
There was only one vote cast in that election - by Stalin. The Tatars were latecomers, the Greeks were there in the '100s BC, and who can say who was there before them.

Breach of Trust: How Americans Failed Their Soldiers and Their Country
http://www.amazon.com/Breach-Trust-Americans-Soldiers-American-ebook/dp/B00BQMKCCM/

pg22/loc294-96:
The outcome of World War II turned, above all, on two factors: in Europe, the prowess and durability of the Red Army; in the Pacific, the weakness and vulnerability of the Japanese economy. To hit the perfect strategic sweet spot—winning big without losing too much—required the United States to exploit both of these factors. This Roosevelt ably succeeded in doing.

pg23/306-7
In Washington, Winston Churchill's speeches about the common heritage of the "English-speaking peoples," however inspiring, mattered less than did the Red Army's manifest ability to absorb and inflict punishment.

pg23/317-20
15 A long war of attrition fought by the Soviet Union was altogether another matter, however. For Washington, providing Stalin with whatever the Soviet Union needed to stay in the fight (while easing any doubts the Soviet dictator might entertain about America's commitment to the cause) constituted not only a strategic priority but also a domestic political imperative.

pg24/loc322-26:
At just above four hundred thousand, U.S. military deaths for the period 1941–45 were hardly trivial. Yet compared to the losses suffered by the other major belligerents, the United States emerged from the war largely unscathed. Estimates of Soviet battle losses, for example, range between eleven and thirteen million. 16 Add civilian deaths—ten million or more in the Soviet Union, a mere handful in the United States—and the disparity becomes that much greater.

... snip ...

"military industrial complex"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

previous posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#67 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#70 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#73 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#74 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#76 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#84 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#85 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#2 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#5 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America
Date: 23 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
also google+
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/NVfUGv92Ut2

The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/24/the-planet-s-best-stealth-fighter-isn-t-made-in-america.html

This technology is characterized by development and deployment cycles measured in months. In aerospace, the lead in materials and manufacturing has gone to the commercial side.

... snip ...

this is from Dec2007

F-35 JSF Hit by Serious Design Problems
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/f-35-jsf-hit-by-serious-design-problems-04311/

it makes some reference to tight tolerances. At some point there was article that claimed that some of the other airframes have a lot more potential for electronic and cyber upgrades/adaptability/changes ... both in terms of amount of available physical space and as well as available power.

The analogy that I'm most familar with is the 1990 C4 auto industry task force that looked at complete industry make-over. There was article in the early 80s calling for 100% unearned income tax on the industry ... supposedly the import quotas were temporary to give the industry enormous increase in profits that would be used to completely remake the industry to be competitive with the rest of the world ... however, they just pocketed the money and continued business as usual.

During the C4 meetings they explained that the US industry take 7-8 yrs from concept to rolling off the line while foreign competition had cut that process in half and were in the process in cutting it in half again. They used corvette as example of the 7-8yr process period, from the time of its original design, numerous of the standard components would undergo evolution and no longer fit in the original design ... requiring expensive redesign and rework ... resulting in further delays. One of the things at the 2011 USNI conference on future of air power ... was that drones were undergoing a half-dozen or more design generations per year ... while the f-35 will be approaching two decades for single generation. As to the C4 task force ... the recent bailouts showed it wasn't successful at a make-over (any more than what was supposed to happen in the early 80s) ... and various claims that it is still struggling.

Breach of Trust: How Americans Failed Their Soldiers and Their Country
http://www.amazon.com/Breach-Trust-Americans-Soldiers-American-ebook/dp/B00BQMKCCM/

pg84/1187-89
It was as if we were IBM contemplating the first Apple computer, or General Motors the first Volkswagen or Toyota." 3 The comparisons were revealing. IBM had been producing computers for decades before Steve Jobs unveiled his first creation.

... snip ...

The C4 taskforce was planning on making heavy use of technology as part of the make-over so had representatives from technology companies participate. IBM sent reps from the mainframe organization as well as I got to attend representing a much smaller newer group with product more characteristic of silicon valley (processing capability rapidly approaching that of the mainframe for small faction of the mainframe cost, 12-24month product cycle instead of 7-8yrs, etc. ... and frequently running afoul of the mainframe group for eroding corporate profit). Offline I would chide the mainframe brethren about how could they help the auto industry since they suffered from many of the same problems.

auto industry c4 taskforce:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

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Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
Date: 23 Mar 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-20/was-there-wrongdoing-done-in-the-financial-crisis-

from above:
Former Citigroup Chief Underwriter for Consumer Lending Richard Bowen discusses Wall Street whistle blowing and the financial crisis. He speaks on "Market Makers."

... snip ...

whisleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

The Lessons Richard Bowen's FCIC Testimony Should Have Taught the Nation
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-lessons-richard-bowens-fcic-testimony-should-have-taught-the-nation.html

from above:
Had Citi's leadership been honest, Bowen's warnings could have substantially reduced the three fraud epidemics driving the financial crisis and Bowen would be one of Citi's most senior leaders. No spoiler alert is required because even my readers who know anything about Bowen know how the story actually ended. Citi's senior managers did not ignore Bowen's warnings - they actively made the frauds he documented worse and they destroyed Bowen's distinguished career in banking. Citi, Fannie and Freddie, and Treasury lost billions of dollars and Citi's senior officers were made wealthy by the "sure thing" of the accounting control fraud "recipe."

... snip ..

toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:31:47 -0700
jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) writes:
You think Europe's countries are republic, buy then some of them pull this king's this or queen's that like from a couple centuries ago. There really is some guy the King of Spain.

some spain royal news

Judge Orders Tax-Fraud Trial for Princess Cristina of Spain
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/23/world/europe/judge-orders-tax-fraud-trial-for-princess-cristina-of-spain.html

from above:
The case coincided with the ascent to the throne of Princess Cristina's brother as King Felipe VI, succeeding their father, Juan Carlos. In his proclamation speech, Felipe VI promised lawmakers integrity and transparency, as part of "a renovated monarchy for a new time."

Beside the monarchy, most of Spain's institutions and political parties have become entangled in corruption cases, many in connection with deals struck during the construction boom that came to an abrupt halt in 2008, with the start of the world financial crisis.


... snip ...

a least they are trying to convict somebody ... in the US there has been no criminal referrals or criminal convictions ... even tho the economic mess was 70 times larger than the S&L crisis which had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 criminal convictions. some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#25 Gutting Dodd-Frank
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#67 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#92 Ocwen's Servicing Meltdown Proves Failure of Obama's Mortgage Settlements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#22 Two New Papers Say Big Finance Sectors Hurt Growth and Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?

in part because of regulatory "capture" ... some recent posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column

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Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
Date: 24 Mar 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#10 Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?

The DOJ and the SEC Spurn their Ace in the Hole: Richard Bowen
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-doj-and-the-sec-spurn-their-ace-in-the-hole-richard-bowen.html

from above:
Bowen was the Citi SVP who blew the whistle on Citi's senior managers' strategy of knowingly buying massive amounts of fraudulently originated loans sold to Citi through fraudulent reps and warranties and then reselling those toxic mortgages (primarily to Fannie and Freddie) through false reps and warranties. My first column described that strategy and the failures of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC) to understand how damning Bowen and Clayton's testimony was. Clayton was the dominant "due diligence" firm for secondary market mortgage sales and was designed to be an easy grader. The two great epidemics of mortgage origination fraud (appraisal fraud and liar's loans) were so endemic and so crude that even Clayton found a 46% incidence of false reps and warranties by the sellers to the secondary market who fraudulently originated the loans. That incidence grew to 54% by the second quarter of 2007.

... snip ...

whisleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:59:36 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
pg22/loc294-96:

The outcome of World War II turned, above all, on two factors: in Europe, the prowess and durability of the Red Army; in the Pacific, the weakness and vulnerability of the Japanese economy. To hit the perfect strategic sweet spot—winning big without losing too much—required the United States to exploit both of these factors. This Roosevelt ably succeeded in doing.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#8 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

talking about vietnam and indiscriminate use of napalm bombing of civilian villages. goes back to pre-WW2 discussions for banning napalm ... and then wide-spread use by the allies in the closing days of WW2

American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity
http://www.amazon.com/American-Reckoning-Vietnam-National-Identity-ebook/dp/B00LFZ87LS/

loc1115-18:
In the final year of World War II, however, the United States carried out the most devastating air attacks in history--the firebombing of a handful of cities in Germany and sixty-seven in Japan, all of it followed by the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Robert McNamara, an aide to General Curtis LeMay, helped plan and analyze the firebombing.

loc1118-20:
In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, McNamara recalled the firebombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945: "In that single night, we burned to death a hundred thousand Japanese civilians in Tokyo--men, women, and children." After the war, General LeMay said to McNamara: "If we'd lost the war we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals."

... snip ...

It then goes into detailed accounts of strategic discussions on vietnam from Eisenhower through Nixon ... basically they knew there was little chance of winning but they had to do things to not appear weak in the eyes of the russians and the rest of the world (afterwards it was better that US public perceived them as dumb & ignorant for the things that were done).

It also spends some time on all the "police" actions from the end of WW2 up to the present ... basically motivated by economic advantage for the US. Doesn't quite come out and say "confessions of economic hit man"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

but does discuss Smedley Butler and "War is Racket"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

as well as war profiteering theme

"perpetual war" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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With the U.S. F-35 Grounded, Putin's New Jet Beats Us Hands-Down

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: With the U.S. F-35 Grounded, Putin's New Jet Beats Us Hands-Down
Date: 25 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
With the U.S. F-35 Grounded, Putin's New Jet Beats Us Hands-Down
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/24/US-F-35-Grounded-Putin-s-New-Jet-Beats-Us-Hands-Down

not that it comes as a surprise ... this is from Dec2007 ... note that F-35 was "cost reduced" design-tradeoff & not for air superiority, assuming that F-22 would be flying cover.

F-35 JSF Hit by Serious Design Problems
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/f-35-jsf-hit-by-serious-design-problems-04311/

more (originally) from 2007
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html
http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html
and 2009
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2009-01.html

part of the F22 issues were that its stealth coating was extremely delicate ... a newer, more durable stealth coating was developed for the F35 and has been retrofitted to the F22 ... it still has issues, but possibly accounts for F22 recently finally flying missions for the first time.
http://www.paintsquare.com/news/?fuseaction=view&id=5424

over the years, everytime it comes up that the F-35 is (still) not working ... some will bring up examples that other weapon systems had a problem or two during their early years ... as excusing the F-35 problems ... however they don't explain why it will be approaching two decades for the f-35.

The 1995 stealth characteristics for F35 was based on 1980s radar technology. The airpower articles then go into the limited F35 stealth for 1980s radar not applying to 21st century radar.

"military-industrial complex"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

recent f-35/f-22 posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#9 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#11 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#16 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#18 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#49 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#58 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#61 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#80 Here's how a retired submarine captain would save IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#75 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#3 How Russia's S-400 makes the F-35 obsolete
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#9 The Planet's Best Stealth Fighter Isn't Made in America

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Retirement Heist

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Retirement Heist
Date: 25 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
Retirement Heist
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

I've posted this reference before ... it highlights previous CEO in his position prior to joining IBM and then at IBM ... but after he left IBM, he went to head up a large private-equity company mentioned in this report:
http://peureport.blogspot.com/2015/03/us-congress-clears-deck-for-pension.html

private-equity companies being able to dump corporate pension plans is one of the ways they have for looting companies they acquire

other trivia: president of AMEX is in competition to be the next CEO and wins (the looser leaves taking his protegee and goes to Baltimore, taking over what has been described as loan sharking business). AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then runs into trouble with RJR and hires away the AMEX president to turn around RJR (some described in retirement heist). IBM has gone into the red and is in the process of being broken up into the 13 "baby blues". The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM (using some of the same techniques). Later the former president of AMEX leaves and becomes head of another large private-equity company (mentioned above)

About the time IBM goes into the red, AMEX spins off its financial dataprocessing outsourcing business in what was the largest IPO up until that time (very large ibm mainframe user, one datacenter had 40+ max configured mainframes @$30M, contantly being upgraded, none older than 18months). Later in the 90s, this new company merges with another large outsourcing company, acquiring Western Union in the process (and having to divest moneygram). WU was struggling in the 90s, but during the 1st half of the last decade, the explosion in illegal workers sending their paychecks home, WU revenue grows to half of the company. WU is then spun-off and KKR does private-equity take-over of the remaining part of the company in the largest reverse-IPO up until that time (15yrs after having been the largest IPO).

The former looser to be the next CEO of AMEX (and protegee) make some number of other acquisitions, eventually taking over Citibank in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall (enabling too big to fail, too big to prosecute and too big to jail). The protegee then leaves and becomes head of one of the other too big to fail.

This is recent account of citigroup svp & chief underwriter early on blowing whistle on Citi enormous dealings in fraudulent mortgages last decade
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-20/was-there-wrongdoing-done-in-the-financial-crisis-
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-lessons-richard-bowens-fcic-testimony-should-have-taught-the-nation.html
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-doj-and-the-sec-spurn-their-ace-in-the-hole-richard-bowen.html

His treatment was similar to what happened to the senior FDIC person in charge of large bank examination that caught the WaMu activities early and reported it up through the head of FDIC (demoted and then fired).

private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
"glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
whisleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

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Retirement Heist

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Retirement Heist
Date: 25 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#15 Retirement Heist

other private equity trivia ... CEO of IBM left to head up private-equity company that then does reverse-IPO of this company ... one of the major for-profit company privatizing the gov.
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

and gov. revolving door, KKR ... where Petraeus now works
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/politics/david-petraeus-isis-white-house-adviser/

and

The SEC's Andrew Bowden: A Regulator for Sale?
http://billmoyers.com/2015/03/19/secs-andrew-bowden-regulator-sale/
SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/secs-andrew-bowden-regulatory-capture-scandal-hits-the-major-leagues-with-los-angeles-times-column.html
Regulator for Sale?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/secs-andrew-bowden-regulator-sale.html
Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/stanford-law-school-covers-up-secs-andrew-bowdens-embarrassing-remarks-by-deleting-conference-video.html
Regulatory Capture, Captured on Video
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/regulatory-capture-captured-on-video-20150325

private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
Success of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

recent posts mentioning "Spies like Us";
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#60 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#81 Ginni gets bonus, plus raise, and extra incentives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#83 Winslow Wheeler's War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#54 National Security and Double Government
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?

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Robots have been running the US stock market, and the government is finally taking control

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Robots have been running the US stock market, and the government is finally taking control
Date: 25 Mar 2015
Blog: Linkedin
Robots have been running the US stock market, and the government is finally taking control
http://qz.com/370019/robots-have-been-running-the-us-stock-market-and-the-government-is-finally-taking-control/

'Flash Boys' Michael Lewis: Markets still rigged
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102527876
Michael Lewis Reflects on His Book Flash Boys, a Year After It Shook Wall Street to Its Core
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/03/michael-lewis-flash-boys-one-year-later

note just as HFT was getting going ... they had non-HFT ways of manipulating the market ... and had nothing to fear from the SEC
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/

Spot The Birth Of High-Frequency Trading
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-28/spot-birth-high-frequency-trading

recent posts mentioning HFT:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#58 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#26 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#36 IBM CEO Rometty gets bonus despite company's woes

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SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
Date: 26 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column

Regulatory Capture, Captured on Video; SEC official slobbers over private equity titans, suggests his son might want a job in the field
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/regulatory-capture-captured-on-video-20150325
Matt Taibbi Takes Up SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/matt-taibbi-takes-up-secs-andrew-bowden-regulatory-capture-scandal.html
The SEC's Andrew Bowden: A Regulator for Sale?
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/29702-the-sec-s-andrew-bowden-a-regulator-for-sale

private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#pirvate.equity

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Have the Banks Escaped Criminal Prosecution because They're Spying Surrogates?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Have the Banks Escaped Criminal Prosecution because They're Spying Surrogates?
Date: 26 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
Have the Banks Escaped Criminal Prosecution because They're Spying Surrogates?
https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/21/have-the-banks-escaped-criminal-prosecution-because-theyre-spying-surrogates/

from above:
One more datapoint, back to HSBC. As I noted when Lanny Breuer and Loretta Lynch announced that handslap, Breuer neglected to mention that HSBC was getting a handslap not just for helping cartels profit off drugs, but also helping terrorists fund their activities (at the time Pete Seda was being held without bail on charges the government insisted amounted to material support for terrorists for handing a check to Chechens using cash that had come indirectly from HSBC).

... snip ...

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

recent posts on prosecution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#10 Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#11 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#12 Was There Wrongdoing Done in the Financial Crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#15 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#16 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#18 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:37:55 -0700
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
In several recent conflicts, the US guaranteed that their soldiers would not be prosecuted for war crimes. "War Criminals" could be defined as the 'other side'. Those who ordered the bombing of Dresden were never prosecuted, and don't mention the Russian officers who did not restrain their soldiers in Eastern Germany.

reference to comment that if allies had lost the war ... they would have been prosecuted for war crimes in the fire/napalm bombing of half dozen Germany cities (including Dresden) and 67 Japanese cities.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

part of a discussion trying to explain why so many Vietnamese villages were napalmed (effectively continuation of the ww2 military culture).

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:49:33 -0700
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
If NATO goes to war over imaginary threats, its not worth the paper to clean up after. This idiocy is from the same source that gave us `Iraq's threat of WMD'

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#5 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

... and this has NATO a shell of its former self.

Breach of Trust: How Americans Failed Their Soldiers and Their Country (American Empire Project) pg166/loc2405-7:
As senior American proconsul in Europe, the four-star EUCOM commander general wore a second hat. He was NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), as splendid a title as the military world has ever conferred.

pg166/loc2409-14:
Back at his headquarters in Belgium, a U.S. officer still carries the title SACEUR, but he no longer reigns supreme over anything. Indeed, during the past three decades, the U.S. forces at his disposal have shrunk by 80 percent. Many of those that remain rotate back and forth between training bases in Germany or Italy and theaters like Afghanistan where the real action occurs, the SACEUR functioning less as their commander than their landlord. 10 As the SACEUR keeps up appearances while presiding over his dwindling domain, the commanders of CENTCOM and AFRICOM increasingly exercise the sort of authority that once was SACEUR's.

... snip ...

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

other recent posts mnetioning NATO:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#74 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:20:48 -0700
30 yrs ago ...
Date:
03/26/85 08:12:52
To: wheeler From: xxxxx

Lynn, Thanks very much for the papers. yyyy got people here interested in the multi-engine topic and you've added to the body of information.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

started off a couple days earlier

Date: 85/03/21 00:48:37
To: wheeler

Here's a lead for you...

From: xxxxx

Hello,

I am down here in Harrison working for the emminent Dr. yyyy and we got to talking about the problem of IBM intermediate systems. He is toying with the idea of an alternative to building more and more kinds of 4300s by lashing together smaller 370s in a single box to be a 'department computer' or 'file server' for a bunch of workstations or PCs. The idea is that you don't need to design yet another engine - one grabs whatever MICRO370s or CMOS 370s (such as ROMAN) exist and intelligently fashion something out of them. Now for the question. Does the kind of workload envisioned suit itself to a multi-engine box? Is an MVS or VM likely to run efficiently in this environment or is the sucker likely to be single-threaded and slow? If you have any thoughts or can suggest folks who might I'd be happy to follow up on it.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 03/22/85 04:03:48
To: xxxxx
From: wheeler

re: dpc001; forgot to check list of files I sent you. Will resend complete package (plus a couple of others you may find interesting) ... will present DPC to zzzzz in YKT next friday.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

other old 4341 email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

I was working on proposal cramming as many processor chips as possible in racks ... any combination of ROMAN (370) and 801/risc. I was also working with on proposal to interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers (NSF supercomputer center interconnect would later involved into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to modern internet). some past NSFNET backbone email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

I got into schedule conflict with presentation to the NSF director on the supercomputer center interconnect and the processor cluster proposal. old post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#50
with this old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850312
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850313
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850314
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#55
with this old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850325
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850325b
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850326
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850402

above mentions processor cluster meetings in YKT two successive weeks

as I've mentioned before, we were originally suppose to get $20M for the NSF supercomputer interconnect, but then congress cuts the budget and some other things happen, finally NSF releases an RFP ... but internal politics prevents us from biding. The director of NSF writes a letter to the company copying CEO (with support of couple other agencies), trying to help ... but that just makes the internal politics worse.

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Why Doesn't the Intelligence Community Care Whether Its Surveillance Programs Work?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Why Doesn't the Intelligence Community Care Whether Its Surveillance Programs Work?
Date: 26 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/CvAGoL128ev

Why Doesn't the Intelligence Community Care Whether Its Surveillance Programs Work?
http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2015/03/why-doesnt-intelligence-community-care-whether-its-security-programs-work/108550/

there is the rapid spreading Success of Failure culture
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
one of the whistleblowers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake


whisleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

... conjecture that beltway bandits adapted game theory (for winning military strategies) to maximize revenue ... realizing a series of failed efforts is more revenue than an immediate success ...

"Game theory, or using math to find the optimal solution to complex systems"
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/02/27/why-its-smart-to-be-reckless-on-wall-street/

aka another unintended consequence of the increased privatizing of the intelligence/military-industrial complex
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Success of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:52:38 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email

Date: 03/27/85 19:49:03
To: wheeler
From: xxxx, SE, BP Team, City Branch

I have been told you are the contact point for Share data bases. Do you have a name and phone number for Share data base distibution???

... snip ... top of post, old email index

aka: vmshare, some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

tymshare (along with tymnet access)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

started offering their vm370/cms-based computer conferecing system free to SHARE in Aug. 1976 ... archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

In the late 70s, I got Tymshare to send me a monthly tape backup of all vmshare files ... which I would then make available on several machines on the internal network ... including the world-wide vm370-based sales&marketing HONE systems ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hone

one of the biggest hurdles on doing this was legal worried about internal employees being contaminated by customer comments

I would then get random email from employees at random locations around the world about vmshare files ... including, the above from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bank
one from champaign, illinois
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email820714
paris, la defense
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email821214
kuwait
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#email830227

old trivia ... post with corporate locations around the world that added one or more nodes on the internal network during 1983
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

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FBI wants 'legislative fix' on device encryption

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: FBI wants 'legislative fix' on device encryption
Date: 27 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/KG4NNDRQjkB

FBI wants 'legislative fix' on device encryption
http://fcw.com/articles/2015/03/27/fbi-encryption.aspx

can you say "clipper chip"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip

Congressional Rep. John Carter Discovers Encryption; Worries It May One Day Be Used On Computers To Protect Your Data
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150327/07312030462/congressional-rep-john-carter-discovers-encryption-worries-it-may-one-day-be-used-computers-to-protect-your-data.shtml

past posts mentioning "key escrow"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm9.htm#pkcs12 A PKI Question: PKCS11-> PKCS12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm16.htm#11 Difference between TCPA-Hardware and a smart card (was: example: secure computing kernel needed)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#12 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#6 PGP "master keys"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#39 PKI Implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#53 public key confusion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#12 New Method for Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#39 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#40 transputers again was Re: The demise of Commodore
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#1 Decoding the encryption puzzle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#48 Data Center Theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#62 Ransomware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#14 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#56 About that "Mighty Fortress"... What's it look like?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#65 Reject gmail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#40 The Vindication of Barb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#74 How the NSA Manipulates Language To Mislead The Public
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#90 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77 German infosec agency warns against Trusted Computing in Windows 8
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#10 "NSA foils much internet encryption"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#77 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#32 Surveillance Reform Theater

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OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 28 Mar 2015 12:03:31 -0700
Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes:
IBM shipped about 20 360/91s, then a couple of 360/95s with a redesigned memory subsystem, then the 360/195 which re-implemented the same machine on a faster, denser logic process, then that modified was to include the basic S/370 extensions (no virtual memory) and shipped as the 370/195. About 40 machines of all four types (combined) were shipped.

in the 70s, the 195 people sucked me into doing some stuff with them on 370/195 "multiprocessor" that never shipped ... basically red/blue multithreading mentioned here
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

the above also includes some other discussion of 195 ... although primarily '60s 360 ACS ... which got canceled because executives thought that it would advance the state-of-the-art too fast and they would loose control of the market ... aka acs/360 would be significantly more cost-effective machines (also describes some of the ACS features that eventually show up in the 1990 ES/9000)

one of the things they told me was that another difference between 360/195 & 370/195 (besides the non-virtual memory 370 instructions) was hardware instruction retry ... which greatly improved reliability.

195 execution units would do 10mips but required careful programming for the pipeline ... which did out-of-order execution ... but not branch preduction or speculative execution ... so conditional branches would drain the pipeline. as a result, most codes ran around 5mips. motivation for red/blue multitreading was the 10mips execution units would be kept busy by two 5mip threads.

recent posts mentioning 370/195
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#27 Webcasts - New Technology for System z
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#61 ou sont les VAXen d'antan, was Variable-Length Instructions that aren't

this describes decision to make all 370 machines virtual memory ... basically MVT memory allocation was so bad that typical region size had to be four times larger than what was being used ... a 1mbyte 370/165 running four regions could get 16 regions with virtual memory and still have little or no paging.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory

however, retrofitting 370 virtual memory hardware to 370/165 (for 165-II) was no trivial task ... eventually they decide to drop several 370 virtual memory features because they were too hard for the 165 ... other machines would also have to drop those features ... and software groups that had already written code using the dropped features would have to be reworked.

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:49:38 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email

Date: 28 March 1985, 08:33:12 PST
To: wheeler

Hi Lynn, I am an SE at the New Jersey AT&T-C locataion, the same building that you were once in. I and many other SE's use the hone system to look at the VMSHARE files that you somehow put there.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

hone & vmshare discussed previously in this thread, past HONE posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

I may have visited numerous (NJ) AT&T locations ... but never actually worked in any. Note when I was moving a lot of my updates from cp67 to vm370 (there was lot of simplification in the original morph of cp67 into vm370 and lots of my updates that I had as undergraduate got dropped) ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

above mentions "csc/vm" internal distribution ... one of my hobbies after joining science center ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

was building & supporting enhanced operating systems for internal distribution ... first cp67, then later vm370 (csc/vm and sjr/vm after moving to san jose research).

Somehow AT&T longlines had cooked a deal where they got a copy of "csc/vm" system in 1975.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Communications

they kept using & supporting that CSC/VM system, including distributing to other AT&T locations and moving to newer generations of IBM machines. That "csc/vm" system predated the availability of vm370 multiprocessor support ... so early 80s when IBM came out with 3081 (that was supposed to be SMP only), the IBM branch office got concerned that AT&T would move to 370 clone processors (that continued selling newer & more powerful uniprocessors. The national AT&T IBM marketing rep tracked me down in 1983 asking if I could help AT&T move off csc/vm to current vm370 (that included multiprocessor support).

past posts mentioning multiprocessor (&/or compare&swap)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

past posts mentioning AT&T longlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#14 characters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#35 Mainframes & Unix (and TPF)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#15 OSes commerical, history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#5 IBM XT/370 and AT/370 (was Re: Computer of the century)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#60 360 Architecture, Multics, ... was (Re: X86 ultimate CISC? No.)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#3 Oldest program you've written, and still in use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#4 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#11 The demise of compaq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002c.html#11 OS Workloads : Interactive etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#32 IBM was: CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#23 Cost of computing in 1958?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#17 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#46 unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#32 The attack of the killer mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#58 Shipwrecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#31 z/VM performance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#21 IBM 3090/VM Humor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#54 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#6 Open z/Architecture or Not
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#15 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#29 Need Help filtering out sporge in comp.arch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#30 hacked TOPS-10 monitors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#41 IT managers stymied by limits of x86 virtualization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#14 DASD or TAPE attached via TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#82 Yet another squirrel question - Results (very very long post)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#7 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#59 Hard Disk Drive Construction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#37 AT&T Holmdel Computer Center films, 1973 Unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again

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Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
Date: 28 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/2015/03/andrew-cockburns-kill-chain-book-review.html
also The Folly of Machine Warfare
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/27/the-folly-of-machine-warfare/

talking about napalm bombing of civilian villages in vietnam ... part of culture from end of WW2, American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity
http://www.amazon.com/American-Reckoning-Vietnam-National-Identity-ebook/dp/B00LFZ87LS/

loc1115-18:
In the final year of World War II, however, the United States carried out the most devastating air attacks in history--the firebombing of a handful of cities in Germany and sixty-seven in Japan, all of it followed by the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Robert McNamara, an aide to General Curtis LeMay, helped plan and analyze the firebombing.

loc1118-20:
In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, McNamara recalled the firebombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945: "In that single night, we burned to death a hundred thousand Japanese civilians in Tokyo--men, women, and children." After the war, General LeMay said to McNamara: "If we'd lost the war we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals."

... snip ...

In the 90s, we did (unclassified) annual DARPA project reviews. The offline comments by people from various agencies that the policy was to replace humint with technology because it was cheaper ... and a lot of all this other stuff follow from that policy decision (also, increasing share of the budget would be going to for-profit technology companies).

We saw 2nd hand effects with turf'ed humint people applying for security jobs in silicon valley. There were other 2nd'ary effects military intel sysadmins were getting $30k and silicon valley was offering $120k. Payscale was inflating to flag rank each requiring congressional approval (several tens of thousands). Outsourcing to for-profit companies side-stepped approval issue (gets you the outsourced sysadmin that recently released lots of info). Congress likes it because agencies can't lobby ... Joke is expectation of 10percent of appropriations, split evenly between lobbyists and congress (... aka what they say publicly for justification may not be the actual motivation).

possibly reference to phoenix?, "American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity" loc3139-42:
After the Tet Offensive, General Westmoreland was replaced by General Creighton Abrams (1968- 1972). Admirers of Abrams credit him with waging a smarter, more focused war, providing more security to villagers and attacking the enemy with greater precision. The record does not substantiate these claims. In fact, Abrams presided over an even more indiscriminate air war (against South Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos) and cooperated with the CIA's notorious program of political assassinations called the Phoenix Program.

loc3142-45:
Phoenix began in 1967 and expanded during Abrams's tenure. It was designed to "neutralize" the Viet Cong Infrastructure--the shadow government of Communist political officers and operatives. Under Phoenix, thousands of unarmed, unresisting suspects were murdered. The killing of unarmed noncombatants, even those who proved to be Communist officials, was a clear violation of the Geneva Conventions of war and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

... snip ...

the previous source primarily focuses on activity in south vietnam. other references separate strategic bombing in north vietnam (the targets selected in washington) and bombing in south vietnam ... with one source quoting Abrams as saying the B-52s were his reserves. Other reference "About 75percent of Air Force missions during the war were flown in South Vietnam" ... next level of detail would be authority for air strikes.

"American Reckoning", loc2992-94:
The body count was the paramount measure of success. Every month, General Westmoreland required a massive collection of statistical data from all units, and no number was more important than the body count. Commanders reporting low body counts were routinely punished with poor fitness reports and passed over for promotion.

... snip ...
which then results in numerous approaches for increasing the count.

"American Reckoning" sort of ties together vietnam & ww2 indiscriminate civilian attacks from the air. "Kill Chain" starts off with something similar with civilian attacks in Afghanistan and then adds history of poor discrimination from the air in both vietnam and ww2. Then goes into Ho Chi Minh trail bombing. Some trivia, Boyd would claim that he told them it would never work (but possibly as punishment they put him in charge of spook base) ... he said it had largest air conditioned bldg in that part of the world. Some detail here ... gone 404, but lives on at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

"Kill Chain" pg17/loc329-32:
Twenty years after the last bombs had fallen, the So Tri, an indigenous group who had lived in the remote wilderness of southeastern Laos for centuries, still didn't know who had bombed them. For nine years, high explosives of all shapes and sizes had rained down out of the sky, killing men, women, and children and obliterating their homes and much of the old forest.

One of Boyd's biographies claims it was a $2.5B (1970 $$) windfall for IBM. "Kill Chain" pg21/loc393-95:

To process the data Garwin, the IBM scientist, recommended the IBM-360 computer to analyze the signals, he explained, and "try to characterize the sounds so you wouldn't be bombing birds or peasants but convoys, trucks, or whatever." Once birds and peasants had been eliminated, promised Garwin, the computer would order "response, immediate response" from attack aircraft.

... snip ...

included lots of air strikes on elephants since they had similar sensor signature.

posts & URLs mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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IBM Z13

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Z13
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 11:17:24 -0700
hancock4 writes:
One is the Z13, a super-duper mainframe to handle mobile computing. They said it can handle hundreds of transactions instantly from a single person, that is, a request for an airline ticket that results in numerous searches to find the best price and seat. They also said it can due analytics instantly instead of waiting or offloading the data.

past comments have been that z13 has little improvement in per processor performance (compared to ec12) ... but added capacity is by increasing number of processors (I've yet to see real numbers).
z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012


something similar regarding i/o capacity. I've mentioned before that the channels (FICON) are a heavy-duty protocol level on top of industry standard fibre channel standard, that drastically reduces the throughput. The last I/O benchmark i've seen is the peak I/O benchmark done for z196 that did 2M IOPS using 104 FICON and ec12 only announced that it would do 30% more i/o than z196 (even tho processor capacity is 50% more).

At the time of the z196 peak i/o benchmark, there was a single FCS announced for e5-2600v1 blade claiming over 1M IOPS (for single FCS, two such FCS beat 104 FICON ... where FICONis protocol layer running on top of FCS). posts posts mentioning FICON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

note e5-2600v1 had BIPS ratings of 400-500+ BIPS (depending on model, compared to EC12 @75BIPS). e5-2699v3 blade is claiming 1.3TIPS ... and e5-2600v4 is expected shortly from intel tic-toc roadmap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

recent posts mentioning z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#30 Why on Earth Is IBM Still Making Mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#33 Why on Earth Is IBM Still Making Mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#35 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#36 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#38 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#39 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#40 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#41 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#42 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#43 z13 "new"(?) characteristics from RedBook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#44 z13 "new"(?) characteristics from RedBook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#45 z13 "new"(?) characteristics from RedBook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#46 Why on Earth Is IBM Still Making Mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#47 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#50 z13 "new"(?) characteristics from RedBook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#82 Is there an Inventory of the Installed Mainframe Systems Worldwide
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#56 New Principles of Operation (and Vector Facility for z/Architecture)

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IBM Z13

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Z13
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:28:31 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
My natural question would be: did they just shove more processors in z13 boxes, or did the z13 CPU include innovations that made it possible to usefully connect more processors together? (Of course, it could also have included innovations to use less power per chip as well.)

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#29 IBM Z13

more processors in boxes ... in part were a problem because of 370 requirement for (smp, tightly-coupled) very strong memory consistency (processor cache consistency) ... especially by the MVS operating system. claims have been then z13 is about 30% more processing than ec12 ... or around 100BIPS ... which it would get by going from 101processors to 130+processors.

ec12 was 32nm chip technology ... IBM was selling its chip machine fabs ... but eventually had to pay somebody to take the (32nm technology) chip fabs. z13 is 22nm tech ... so they may be getting 1/3 more cores-processors per chip so they may have same number of chips (as ec12). 22nm tech should also give them some power savings. if all the chip cores-processors are sharing same cache ... then with same number of chips ... there would be same number of cross-chip caches to serialize/synchronize.

I've related in the past about working on 16-way 370 SMP (in part by relaxing memory concistency) in the 70s and getting some of the 3033 processor engineers to work on it in their spare time ... it was going well until somebody happened to mention to head of POK that it could be decades before the favorite son operating system (effectively) supported 16-way smp ... as per previous post, 16-way didn't ship until Z900 in Dec2000 over two decades later. recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#46 Connecting memory to 370/145 with only 36 bits

note also that max configured mainframes have been running around in the range of $.5M/BIPS. this compared to IBM's base list price (before unloading server business unit) of $1815 for e5-2600v1 blade ... or little over $3/BIPS. Part of the issue is that large cloud megadatacenters have been claiming (for almost 2 decades) that they assemble their own blade servers at 1/3rd the cost of brand name blade servers ... down around $1/BIPS (possibly contributing to the IBM decision to unload their server business).

e5-2600 has already done the (tick) die-shrink to 14nm ... and will be doing its (tock) new micro-architecture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

SMP (and/or comapare&swap) posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

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IBM Z13

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Z13
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:46:47 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#29 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#30 IBM Z13

i pointed out last year that mainframe financials was they were selling the equivalent of 56 max-configured ec12s/annum ... and if they did straight die-shrink from 32nm ... along with switch to 450mm wafers, then a single wafer would be sufficient to handle multiple years of mainframe sales.

business case for a new chip fab. supporting latest technology involves doing hundreds of thousand wafers/month ... not one wafer every couple years. the size of the mainframe market could no longer support chip fab ... however, the profit margin on what current customers are willing to pay to keep their mainframes going, does justify keeping the mainframe business unit running (but on the hardware side, they have to increasingly leverage technology developed for markets that have significantly larger size/volume).

past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#57 [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#87 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#90 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#24 Unisys CEO ousted, shares slip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#43 IBM 'major announcement' points to deal on chip manufacturing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#56 This Chart From IBM Explains Why Cloud Computing Is Such A Game-Changer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#129 Is there an Inventory of the Installed Mainframe Systems Worldwide and or for Europe alone?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#144 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#145 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#78 Is there an Inventory of the Inalled Mainframe Systems Worldwide

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PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot
Date: 30 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/b3Kop3iYn28

PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot
http://peureport.blogspot.com/2015/03/obamas-intelligence-oversight-board.html

"spies like us" ... private-equity take-over by ....
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
and
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington

note Petraeus went to another big private-equity
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/politics/david-petraeus-isis-white-house-adviser/
here
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/k-k-r-hires-petraeus/

... recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#37 C.I.A. Is Said to Have Bought and Destroyed Iraqi Chemical Weapons
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#54 National Security and Double Government
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#16 Retirement Heist

posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

other trivia: president of AMEX is in competition to be the next CEO and wins (the looser leaves taking his protegee and goes to Baltimore, taking over what has been described as loan sharking business). AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then runs into trouble with RJR and hires away the AMEX president to turn around RJR (some described in retirement heist).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM has gone into the red and is in the process of being broken up into the 13 "baby blues". The board then hires away the former president of AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM (using some of the same techniques).
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

Later the former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of another large private-equity company (Carlyle) which later does private-equity take-over of BAH

note that the industry had gotten such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis that they changed the name to "private equity" and "junk bonds" becomes "high-yield bonds"

posts mentioning Gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

the two that leave AMEX and go to baltimore make some number of other acquisitions eventually acquiring citibank in violation of glass-steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of glass-steagall (enabling too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail, "moral hazard" and various other undesirable side-effects. The protegee then leaves and becomes head of one of the other TBTF "glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
TBTF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!
Date: 30 Mar 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/VW5fPNqPNcv

Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/crossing-the-rhine-70-years-ago-today.html

My wife's father command of 1154th engineering combat group crossed rhine on 30March (from national archives)
The 1154th Engr C Gp become operational 260800 March 1945 with the atchmt of the 179th and 245th Engr C Bns, and was given the mission of G/S XX Corps Opns. At that time the unit was billeted in ST WENDEL, Germany, and Corps Opns were aimed at crossing the RHINE and MAIN rivers vic MAINZ. On 27 March we moved to ERBES-BUDESHEIN somewhat nearer the scene of the crossings. The same date our missions was change to D/S 11th Armd Div and 3rd Cav Gp, and the 179th Engr C Bn was put under operational congrol of the 1139th Engr C Gp to support the 206th Engr C Bn in river crossing opns.

On 27-28 March we supported the cross of the MAIN River with bridging equipment supplied via the 245 Engr C Bn. The crossing went well, and later in the day on 28th March the 179th reverted to our control and we were reld of our mission supporting the 11th Armd Div and 3rd Cav Gp.

On 29 March we were given the new mission of D/S 5th Inf and 5th Armd Divs. On 30 March we cross the RHINE River at MAINZ in Navy-operated LCV's and LCP's and that night were in FRANKFURT-am-MAIN. On 31 March we were reld of D/S 5th Inf Div and put in D/S 6th Armd Div and 3rd Cav Gp, the same day moving our CP to AUA, a small town on the autobahn, far N of FRANKFURT.

At month's end we had no one killed, two men were wounded when their jeep hit a mine, no one was missing.

The first of April saw us still in AUA, with battles raging in KASSEL and HERSFELD. Our mission remained D/S 6th Armd Div and 3rd Cav Gp, and our Gp consisted of the 179th and 245th Engr C Bas and the 993rd Engr Tdwy Br Co, the later unit having been atchd 1 April. Bridges across the FULDA River were blown and we were given the task of getting a Cl 40 Baily Bridge across in the vic of MELSUNGEN. This bridge consisting of 160' D/S with a pier, was completed 4 April. The same day the 548th Engr L Pon Co was atchd to us.

After our forces had crossed the FULDA the enemy tried to set-up a MLR along the MERRA River, which failed to hold. However, all the bridges across this stream were out with the exception of one bridge at BROSS BURSCHELA. We set-up a CP in this town on 5 April and several bridge sites were reconnoitered, frequently under fire. A site at ESCHWEDGE was finally selected as affording the best road net. It had the added advantage of not being under fire. The site actually called for two bridges, both on the same road about 100yrds apart and situated so that the first bridge had to be finished before equipment could be brought and work started on the second. Both bridges were completed 8 April, one consisting of 150' D/S Bailey Bridge with two bents, the other of 130' D/S Bailey Bridge with one bent. They were eventually turned over to the 1139th Engr C Gp on 11 April.

In addition to bridging difficulties we were faced with the problem of poor roads to the immediate rear. The country just E of the FRANKFURT-KASSEL autobahn consisted mostly of a rather high ridge line crossed by roads of mediocre quality. The MSR used the best of these, but it was unpaved for about half its length and had many sharp and hairpin turns. Secondary roads were in comparable shape and all with decorated with road blocks and wrecked vehicles. Consequently, maintenance and improvement had to be almost continuous. In addition we ran a sawmill in GROSS BURSCHLA for two days, turning out timbers for fixed bridges.

Meanwhile, the period 5-10 April was one of assembling and regrouping. On 6 April we were reld of D/S 3rd Cav Gp, which left us in D/S 6th Armd Div. On 8 Apr the 548th Engr L Pon Co was reld of atchmt to us. Toward the close of this period it developed that XX Corps was going pivot due E and aim straight for DRESDEN. On 10 April we had the 509th Engr L Pon Co atchd and were given the mission of D/S 4th and 6th Amrd Divs. Our Gp now consisted of the 179th and 245th Engr C Bns, the 509th Engr L Pon Co and the 993rd Engr Tdwy Br Co.

The operational pause came to end 10 Apr and the same day we moved to LANCENSALZA AIRPORT, with all indications pointing to another rat race after an enemy that was become more and more disorganized. We left LANCENSALZA on the 12th and while having lunch at BUTTSTADT were strafed by two single-engined enemy fighters, one of which was shot down and crashed into houses closeby, demolishing the machine and killing the pilot. We had no casualties and that night set-up in BAD SULZA.

During the period 12-15 April our forces and the enemy played a cat-and-mouse game in and around ZEITZ. In spite of repeated sweeps by our armor and infantry, scattered strong points managed to hold out or avoid detection. One of these was a battery of about five 88mm guns sighted on the spot over the ELSTOR River where we planned to put in a Baily Bridge. After eighteen hours and three different attempts at construction, our units had to be withdrawn due to the rapid advance of our supported units, and responsibility was turned over to the 1139th Engr C Gp.

From this point on, engr work developed into reconnaissance of roads, minor road clearance and repairs. The enemy was being pushed back too rapidly for him to effect serious holding damage. At RENSE a large enemy map depot was secured, and after a two day inventory a report was submitted to XX Corps, when eventually took over the installation.

At this time we were in BURGSTADT, situated E of the metropolitian outskirts of CHEMNITZ. On 17 April it developed that CHEMNITZ was about as far E as XX Corps was to go. A new situation was received that afternoon that shifted Corps to the vic of COBURG, aimed for the NATIONAL REDOUBT of Germany. We were put in G/S of Corps Opns in the 71st Inf Div Z, and had the 995 Engr Tdwy Br Co atched to us, and the following morning left for vic COBURG. We eventually set-up in SCHNEY, somewhat to the SE of COBURG. It developed that there was little reconnaissance information information concerning the roads in Z from COBERG N to the autobahn, an area 45 to 50 miles in depth. We were assigned the job of securing the information, and the same day, 18 April, the 993rd Engr Tdwy Br Co was reld of its atchmt to us.

In the forward zones it was apparent that the enemy in this sector was more aggressive or at least had not disintegrated to the extent that he had in the sector we had just been. Demolitions and road blocks were frequent. On 20th April the 509th Engr L Pon Co was reld of its atchmt to us and on 21 April we moved to FORCHHEIM, continuing reconnaissance and road maintenance and clearance in Z. The same day Co A, 245th Engr C Bn was atchd to a TF consisting of the 3rd Cav Gp reinforced which had the mission of seizing bridge in the forward Z as far as the DANUBE River.

... and then Danube

On 28 Apr we were put in D/S of the 13th Armd and 80th Inf Divs and G/S Corps Opns. The night of the 28-29 April we cross the DANUBE River and the next day we set-up our OP in SCHLOSS PUCHHOF (vic PUCHOFF); an extensive structure remarkable for the depth of its carpets, the height of its rooms, the profusion of its game, the superiority of its plumbing and the fact that it had been owned by the original financial backer of the NAZIS, Fritz Thyssen. Herr Thyssen was not at home.

Forward from the DANUBE the enemy had been very active, and an intact bridge was never seen except by air reconnaissance. Maintenance of roads and bypasses went on and 29 April we began constructing 835' of M-2 Tdwy Br, plus a plank road approach over the ISAR River at PLATTLING. Construction was completed at 1900 on the 30th. For the month of April we had suffered no casualties of any kind and Die Gotterdamerung was falling, the last days of the once mighty WHERMACHT.

... snip ...

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:04:00 -0700
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
It's sort of like the original IBM PC. IBM soon realized that in opening the specifications, they had opened a form of Pandora's box. (In this case the bad things in the box were bad for them, not users.) They tried to close the box with Micro Channel, and failed. Modern app designers, on the other hand, seem to be succeeding in closing their particular Pandora's box, keeping the evils of compatibility safely inside - along with Hope for users.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email

it wasn't just closing PC box ... but also restricting it use ... in large corporations to terminal emulation with some local computing ... the communcation group was strongly fighting off client/server and distributed computing, trying to preserve its (emulated) dumb terminal paradigm

thruput of microchannel cards were significantly restricted. the workstation division had come out with (801/risc/rios) rs/6000 that used microchannel (followon to 801/risc/romp pc/rt that used pc/at bus
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

the workstation division was told they couldn't do their own microchannel cards but had to use the PS2 cards. The PS2 microchannel 32bit 16mbit token-ring card had very low card throughput .... having been targeted to the terminal emulation market with 300+ stations per lan. The PC/RT (16bit pc/at bus) 4mbit token-ring card had higher per-card throughput than the PS2 32bit microchannel 16mbit token-ring card. The joke was that if the RS/6000 was restricted to PS2 microchannel cards (all the PS2 microchannel cards had limited throughput), the RS/6000 wouldn't have any better throughput than a PS2 (a pc/rt server with 4mbit t/r card had higher throughput than rs/6000 with 16mbit t/r card)

As a work-around to the corporation microchannel mandates, the workstation group came out with RS/6000 than had VMEbus (rather than microchannel) ... it wasn't that the VMEbus was that superior to the microchannel ... but the VMEbus cards were superior to the PS2 microchannel cards (and workstation group was prohibited from doing their own higher-performance microchannel cards).

somewhat related, I've periodically commented that in the late 80s, a senior disk engineer had got a talk scheduled at the annual, world-wide, internal communication conference, nominally on 3174 performance but opened the talk with the statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had corporate strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the walls of (mainframe) datacenters (and was strongly fighting off client/server and distributed computing). The disk division was seeing data fleeing the datacenter for more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales.

past posts about the (emulated) dumb terminal paradigm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

in this time-frame, my wife had co-authored a response to gov. request for large distributed, super-secure, campus operation ... that included 3-tier architecture. we were then out making customer executive 3-tier architecture presentations .... and taking lots of arrows in the back from the communication group ... especially the token-ring people.

The T/R people had released paper showing that (theoritically) 16mbit t/r network had much higher throughput than enet (ignoring the microchannel card implementation). However, the new Almaden bldg had been extensively wired with CAT5 ... and found that twisted-pair 10mbit enet had both higher aggregate network throughput and lower latency than 16mbit t/r (separate from the issue with low per-card microchannel 16mbit t/r). I conjectured that the T/R paper was actually comparison with original 3mbit enet before "listen before transmit". In this time-frame there was a SIGCOMM paper showing 10mbit enet 30station network with low-level driver constantly transmitting minimum sized packets, still had 8.5mbit effective network throughput

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier

past posts with part of the 3-tier customer executive presentation showing comparison of cost of 3-tier environment with mainframe (with enet & tcp/ip) was less expensive than the communication group SAA (with 16mbit t/r and terminal emulation)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#7 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#9 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:16:47 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
Germany, Japan, or Italy were financed by the U.S. during World War II?

past references that John Foster Dulles (representing wallstreet and US corporations) was major factor in German economic recovery and military buildup at least through late 1939 (after invasion of Poland)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

In "battle of britain" series there was reference to congressional legislation in this period was described as neutrality ... trying to counteract the enormous war profittering that they had seen during ww1. however, heavily influenced by large corporate and financial interests, this "neutrality" is usually respun as isolationism.

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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IBM Z13

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Z13
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:44:00 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#29 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#30 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#31 IBM Z13

I exaggerated several years of ec12 sales from single wafer. Max configured ec12 has 20chips @6proc/chip or 120 procs, 101 can be enabled.

die shrink from 32nm to 22nm and change from 300mm to 450mm wafers, possibly 1100+ chips/wafer ... or a little bit better than single year of ec12 sales/wafer. However minimum fab runs tends to be six wafers (which would be several years of ec12 sales from single, minimum fab run).

z13 does moves from 32nm to 22nm but increases cores from 6 to 8. z13 possible uses same ec12 design with 20chips max but increases to 160 processors (8cores/chip) 141(?) that can be enabled. With 1/3 more processors per chip, z13 processor chip will be something more than 1/3rd larger than ec12 chip with straight die shrink to 22nm. However, a single minimum fab wafer run could still be multiple years of z13 sales.

past posts mentioning 450mm wafers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#57 [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#56 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#0 The SDS 92, its place in history?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#87 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#90 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#93 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#24 Unisys CEO ousted, shares slip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#43 IBM 'major announcement' points to deal on chip manufacturing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#56 This Chart From IBM Explains Why Cloud Computing Is Such A Game-Changer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#129 Is there an Inventory of the Installed Mainframe Systems Worldwide and or for Europe alone?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#145 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#155 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#82 Is there an Inventory of the Installed Mainframe Systems Worldwide

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:19:23 -0700
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
You're confusing him with the republicans, apparently. You're also forgetting that the PPACA was a huge compromise for the President, and after that, it was shown that the Republicans weren't at all interested in _any_ compromise, nor are they currently interested in any compromise.

PPACA is also massively dwarfed by what was done on behalf of the drug industry with medicare part-d.

2002 congress lets the fiscal responsibility act expire (required that spending not exceed tax revenue)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

first major act afterwards then was medicare part-d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d

which the comptroller general says comes to be a long term $40T item that dwarfs all other budget items (aka enormous gift to the drug industry)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

cbs 60mins does a segment on it ... highlighting the 18 republican members of congress and staffers that were responsible for getting the act passed (after the act passes, 60mins finds that all 18 have resigned and are on drug industry payroll). Turns out at the last minute, just before the final vote, they insert a one liner that precludes competitive bidding. 60mins shows drugs from VA (that does allow competitive bidding) that are 1/3rd the price of the identical drugs under medicare part-d.

other trivia ... 2010 CBO report shows that they also reduced taxes (on wealthy and corporations) for $6T reduction in tax revenue ... and increased spending by $6T (compared to baseline) for a $12T budget gap. in the middle of the last decade, congress was savaging the budget so badly that the comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic.

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:03:52 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity
http://www.amazon.com/American-Reckoning-Vietnam-National-Identity-ebook/dp/B00LFZ87LS/


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

Recent book
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Chain-Rise-High-Tech-Assassins-ebook/dp/B00MSZ5BBI/

review by one of Boyd "acolytes"

Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/2015/03/andrew-cockburns-kill-chain-book-review.html

recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins

"American Reckoning" sort of ties together vietnam & ww2 indiscriminate civilian attacks from the air. "Kill Chain" starts off with something similar with civilian attacks in Afghanistan (& Iraq) and then adds history of poor discrimination from the air in both vietnam and ww2 ... including Ho Chi Minh trail bombing. Some trivia, Boyd would claim that he told them it would never work (but possibly as punishment they put him in charge of spook base, "Kill Chain" has lot more discussion of Boyd) ... he said it had largest air conditioning bldg in that part of the world. Some detail here ... gone 404, but lives on at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

video showing 9yrs of USAF bombing Laos ... Laos begins to look like moon landscape
https://vimeo.com/81819289

"Kill Chain" also talks about Warden's air campaign for Desert Storm, claiming high-level "precision" bombing could perform the task w/o needing any ground forces to go in at all. Largest amount of damage from the air in desert storm was done by A10 (which USAF hates) and the ground forces still went in ... and Boyd has been given credit for the ground campaign battle plan.

for a little other drift, US Army crosses the rhine 28mar 70yrs ago

Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/crossing-the-rhine-70-years-ago-today.html

my wife's father was command of engineering combat group ... crosses the rhine 30mar (70yrs ago) ... part of his status report from national archives covers from crossing rhine through the month of april to crossing the danube (part of the time being used as forward recon)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#33

past posts & URLs from around the web referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html
"perpetual war" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

recent posts mentioning "Desert Storm":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#66 fingerspitzengefuhl and Coup d'oeil
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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Virtual Memory Management

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Virtual Memory Management
Date: 31 Mar 2015
Blog: Facebook
virtual memory can be viewed as part of hierarchy of "caches". Hardware processor caches is to keep the most recently used data (LRU) closest to the processor and cache "misses" are managed by hardware ... in much the same way that virtual page misses are managed by software. In the past the size of the paged/cache data tended to be adjusted proportional to the latency to handle a miss. Also when a processor cache miss latency to real storage is counted in number of processor cycles ... it is similar to the count of 1960s processor cycles to process a page miss located on 1960s disk (a miss in the hardware cache is similar to effects of 1960s page miss and the impact of current virtual page miss is orders of magnitude larger, when measured in number of processor cycles, than it was in the 60s).

Other trivia, 60s academic papers on LRU were with respect to methodology referred to as "local LRU" page replacement. About the same time I was undergraduate and demonstrated global LRU was much more efficient, I just did the design, implementation, integration and test for shipping in products (rather than write academic papers). In the early 80s, Jim Gray had left San Jose Research (and palmed off a bunch of stuff on me) for Tandem. He then contacted me that one of his co-workers was being blocked by "local LRU" forces from getting his Stanford PHD because it involved work on global LRU. Jim asked if I could weigh-in on the argument since he knew I had detailed apples-to-apples comparisons showing global LRU was significiantly better than "local LRU". It was interesting to watch the degree of academic in-fighting.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019
in this posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#45

DBMS implementations tend to also do their own virtual memory management ... roping of a large portion of real memory and managing it as a cache of resident DBMS records in much the same way that VMM is done.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock

other VMM/LRU trivia ... having done the local versus global in the late 60s and early 70s ... in the mid-70s I also came up with coding trick. Straight LRU replacement has characteristic of degrading to FIFO under various conditions (and at the extreme is choosing to replace the page that is needed next). My slight of hand coding trick resulted in LRU degrading to random in the situations that normal LRU degraded to FIFO (random being much better than FIFO).

I did a lot of enhancements to CP67 as undergraduate in the 60s (which were picked up and shipped in product) ... and IBM would even have some suggestions that I would do. Many years later I learned that it was staple in certain agencies. They would sometime show up at class I would give and offline brag that they knew where I was every day of my life back to birth (challenging me to name a date, supposedly justified because they used so much of my software). They had a SHARE installation code CAD (cloak&dagger) ... which shows up periodically in the VMSHARE achives (tymshare started offering their cms-based online computer conferencing free to SHARE in Aug1976)
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
in retrospect some of the IBM suggested changes in the 60s, my have originated from these guys (but nobody told me at the time), reference gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

also "VM and the VM Community: Past, Present, and Future" includes some 60s history
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124044900/http://pucc.princeton.edu/~melinda/
also here (after she retired)
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

before ms/dos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
there was seattle computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
before cp/m, kildall worked with cp67/cms at npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School

some of the ctss peopole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

go to the science center on the 4th flr and do (virtual machine) cp/40 (modified hardware of 360/40 to support virtual memory)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
then when standard virtual memory becomes available with 360/67, cp/40 morphs into cp/67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
other of the CTSS people go to the 5th flr and do Multics (some of the bell people had come up and work on multics, but then go home and do unix)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

original cp67/cms had dispatcher/scheduler that possibly came from ctss (which I replaced had as undergraduate in the 60s) ... since it appeared similar to things I saw 20yrs later in unix (unix tracing back to ctss via multics).

posts mentioning science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

Closest is adapting unix for real-time applications ... although I've done a lot of work for interactive scheduling to see that system response was within .11 seconds.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

Folklore tale, co-worker from the science center had done the networking implementation that was used for the internal network (larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late '85 or early '86)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

as well as used for the corp. sponsored univ. BITNET (EARN in europe) ... also for a time larger than arpanet/internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

In the 90s, he was working for another company in s. california that was heavily involved with lots of real-time operations. He noticed that major routine in the major industry real-time system looked familiar. He verified that it was almost instruction by instruction straightforward translation of his 360 assembler code into C programming language ... even keeping his original comments.

other trivia, in the 80s we had been working with the director of NSF and NSF supercomputer centers to do "high-speed" interconnect of the centers. We were suppose to get $20M, but then congress cuts the budget, some other things happened, and NSF finally release an RFP (basically what we had originally spec'ed we would do). Unfortunately, internal politics prevented us from bidding. The director of NSF tries to help by writting the corporation a letter (with support from other agencies), but that just makes the internal politics worse. Then as the regional networks tie into the centers, it morphs into the NSFNET backbone (precursor to modern internet). some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet

more trivia: NSF awards UC $120M for a UCB supercomputer center ... UC board of regents steps in and says their bldg plan calls for UCSD to get the next new bldg ... so they redirect the money to UCSD ... so the supercomputer bldg is built there. Speculation on possible political tie-in ... "Kill Chain" talks about coupany heavily involved in fed. killer drones ... that company also gets the contract to operate the UCSD supercomputer center.

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:57:35 -0700
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
Fear of large armies? The USA military budget is greater than the combined budgets of the next 8 countries (China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, France, UK, Germany, Japan and India).

And even in the US, sane people realize that, even if all the personal ARs and AKs were converted to full auto, they're not going to win against the US military. Back in 1776 when we overthrew the lawful government, there wasn't much difference between a Redcoat's gun and a hunter's. Today, things are different.


Straight DOD budget is only about 2/3rds of what it costs the taxpayer ... the full budget is closer to trillion. there is the non-DOD agencies with their own armies as well as mercenaries/contractors, nuclear budget outside DOD, etc
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/defense-budget/2014/americas-one-trillion-national-security-budget.html

part of the above scoring is the debt payments for percent of the US debt attributed to DOD ... this is ever since congress allowed the fiscal responsibility act to expire in 2002 (required spending not exceed tax revenue) ... where the baseline budget had *ALL* federal debt gone by 2010
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act

2010 CBO report had (up until 2010), tax revenue had been cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T budget gap (compared to baseline budget).

one of the issues is some of the long term effects ... the '80s administration pushed similar big cut in taxes and big increase in military-industrial complex spending. One of the gimicks was they also looted the SS Trust Fund (and then continued to "loot/borrow" the net positive payments each year).

Nominal pension would have people paying into fund while they are working building up large balance which they then draw on when they retire. The "baby boomer" attribute comes from big upswing in births after men came home from WW2. Baby boomer generation was birth bubble four times bigger than the previous generation and twice as large as the following generation. On a year-to-year accounting basis, the working baby boomers were paying more into the SS trust fund than the previous retiree generation was withdrawing from the SS trust fund (building up nest egg for the baby boomer positive balance). When they looted the SS trust fund (for baby boomer retirement) ... it would go unnoticed as long as the baby boomers continued working (net positive annual collections, more baby boomers paying in than retirees taking out).

However as baby boomers retire, they are replaced by generation of workers only half as large ... and the net payments in and retirement benefits out goes negative (on year-to-year accounting basis). Since the SS Trust Fund had been looted in the 80s, there is no accrued balance to pay the retirement benefits ... so the only way to make up the difference is taking it from general tax revenue.

Congress has recently respinning the looting of the SS Trust Fund ... to focus on only the year-to-year accounting where annual payments in minus benefits paid out is going negative ... obfuscating and misdirection away from having looted the SS Trust Fund. Having already looted the accumulated balance in the SS Trust Fund for the military-industrial complex ... they want to then reduce the baby boomer SS benefits to further divert money into the military-industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military-industrial-complex

not that the looting of pension funds wasn't just limited to congress and the SS Trust Fund ... it is like the line about asking a crook why they rob banks ... and they reply that is where the money is ... well there were other pension funds with large accumulated balance to cover the baby boomer retirement obligations. A big factor last decade in paying for triple-A ratings for toxic CDOs (when both sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) was so they could sell to large pension funds (restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments) ... claims are they were able to loot something like 30% of value of many large pension funds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

aka over $27T was done last decade during the bubble

Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

then the too big to fail decided that the straight-forward con with triple-A rated toxic CDOs wasn't enuf ... they then came up with gimick of purposefully designing toxic CDOs to fail, paying for triple-A rating, selling to their victims and then taking out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (which enormously increases the demand for dodgy loans)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

some past posts mentioning the baby boomer birth bubble:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#24 Baby Boomer Guys -- Do you look old? Part II
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#78 Millennials have been plugged in pretty much since birth, which naturally means they'd be more adept at understanding the tech world than Gen X or even Baby Boomers, right?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#82 Millennials have been plugged in pretty much since birth, which naturally means they'd be more adept at understanding the tech world than Gen X or even Baby Boomers, right?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#25 Two Articles of Interest on Culture and Things to Look For
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:46:24 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

and the periodic reoccuring theme of looting baby boomer retirement (not just SS trust fund and other pendion funds)

Retirement Heist
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

in the S&L crisis, there evolved the theme that the best way to rob a bank is to buy one ... expecially egregious in Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black
and
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Way-Rob-Bank-Own-ebook/dp/B00H5B9Z80/

a variation is private equity funds buying companies to loot (aka the industry had gotten such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis that they changed the name to "private equity" and "junk bonds" became "high-yield bonds"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

"regulatory capture" was major factor last decade and continues.

In the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

In the wake of Enron,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

congress passes sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley

claiming it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives nad auditors would do jail time ... however, it required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doiong reports of fraudulent public company financial filings ... even showing increase after SOX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

note SOX also required SEC do something about the rating agencies ... but didn't seem to stop the tripl-A ratings sold for toxic CDOs last decade
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

last year, SEC came out with report that over half private equity reports showed significant problems. since then there has been some amount about SEC not only not doing anything about it ... but making public statements about how great the private equity industry is (aka more "regulatory capture"). most recent:

SEC Regulatory Capture Scandal: Andrew Bowden's Fawning Over Private Equity Was No Mistake
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/sec-regulatory-capture-scandal-andrew-bowdens-fawning-private-equity-no-mistake.html

recent posts on the subject:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#11 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#16 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#18 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#19 Have the Banks Escaped Criminal Prosecution because They're Spying Surrogates?

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John Titor was right? IBM 5100

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: John Titor was right? IBM 5100
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:15:42 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
Hercules is a software program that runs on personal computers running Linux or Windows that emulates System/360 computers. It is configurable to emulate all the different versions of that architecture.

5100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5100

had 360 in "microcode"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5100#Emulator_in_microcode

somewhat the equivalent to hercules ... using (program all logic in microcode)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor

low-end and mid-range (real) ibm/370s emulated 370 instruction set in vertical "microcode" (again very similar to hercules) ... tending to avg. ten native instructions for every emulated 370 instruction ... aka a 100KIP 370 needed a 1MIP native processor.

370/115 did about 80KIP 370 ... needing an 800kip native processor. 370/125 did about 120KIP 370 ... needing a 1.2MIP native processor.

late 70s there was an effort to move the large variety of different native "microcode" & controller processors to (common) 801/risc ... 4331->4361, 4341->4381, S38/S36->AS/400 ... lots of other processor (in part because unique programming skill base had to be developed for each processor)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

however, for various reasons they floundered, and they reverted to traditional custom ... as/400 had crash project to do a cisc chip. However, a decade or so later, as/400 did migrate to 801/risc (power/pc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_i

in the early 80s, when various of these 801/risc efforts were floundering, there were 801/risc chip engineers deaparting the company and showing up on risc projects at other companies.

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April 1 RFC

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: April 1 RFC
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:27:45 -0700
traditional April 1 RFCs are out
April1 7514 7511 7169 7168 6921 6919 6593 6592 6217 6214 5984 5841 5514
5513 5242 5241 4824 4042 4041 3751 3514 3252 3251 3093 3092 3091
2795 2551 2550 2549 2325 2324 2323 2322 2321 2100 1927 1926 1925
1924 1776 1607 1606 1605 1437 1313 1217 1149 1097 852 748


....
7514 E Really Explicit Congestion Notification (RECN), Luckie M., 2015/04/01 (5pp) (was draft-luckie-recn-00.txt)


http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcidx25.htm#7514

7511 I Scenic Routing for IPv6, Wilhelm M., 2015/04/01 (8pp) (was draft-scenig-routing-00.txt)


http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcidx25.htm#7511

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John Titor was right? IBM 5100

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: John Titor was right? IBM 5100
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:58:53 -0700
Christian Corti <use@reply.to> writes:
This is wrong. The 5100/5110 has a normal microprogrammed processor (called PALM) with a normal instruction set. Since IBM was too lazy to program native interpreters for the PALM, they wrote simple machine emulators (one for the S/360 and one for the S/3) in machine language, not microcode. They thought that this would be easier...

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#42 John Titor was right? IBM 5100

My view is that it is semantics ... native processor programming used to emulate another architecture tended to be called microcode. when I was working on cp67 ... i use to refer to cp67 as the microcode of the virtual machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS

I did some amount of work with the guy at PASC that did the 370/145 APL assist "microcode" (and other native processor programming, especially related to 370 emulation) ... I was at sister location on the other coast in cambridge CSC ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

One such is that endicott roped me into helping with ECPS that would come out for 138/148 (followon to 135/145). They had 6k bytes available for ECPS (native) programming ... and wanted to choose the 6k bytes of kernel instructions to move into native processor language (microcode) ... aka moved from 370 to native on nearly byte-for-byte basis.

Two approaches were used to select the 6k bytes of instructions. One was instruction hotspot ... a table of counters representing 32bytes of kernel addresses was created in the 370/145 microcode ... and (microcode) routine was added that periodically sampled the current (kernel) instruction address and increment the corresponding address.

there was kernel modification that created time-stamps at entry and exit of various routines and calculate the elapsed time since the previous time-stamp. subpaths within routine could be calculated between points that other routines were called. Old post with results from runs that were used to select kernel codepaths for translation into "microcode":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist

the 370 emulator "microcode" had typical avg of ten native instructions per 370 instructions ... so the 6k bytes of 370 instructions accounting for 79.55% of time spent in kernel execution ... when moved into 6k bytes of native instructions ... it ran ten times faster.

the "vertical" native programming instruction of low-end & mid-range microprocessors looked very much like machine programming. The high-end 370s were horizontal microprogramming ... which was more like lots of bits that activated/started various hardware operations ... that could run in parallel. Instead of being characterized as avg. number of (vertical) native instructions per 370 instruction ... they were characterized as avg. machine cycles per 370 instruction. The 370/165 was 2.1 machine cycles per 370 instruction ... but was improved for 370/168 to 1.6 machine cycles per 370 instruction ... and then improved to one machine cycle per 370 instruction for 3033.

I've mentioned before that during FS period, internal 370 efforts were being killed off and the lack of 370 products during this period allowed clone processors to gain market foothold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

when FS imploded ... there was mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline and 3033 and 3081 were kicked off in paralle. 3033 started out Q&D remap of 168 logic to 20% faster chips ... however tweaks done along the way (like reducing avg. machine cycles per 370 instruction) got 3033 up to 1.5 times 168. this has discussion of FS and how poorly the 3033 & 3081 compared to clone competition:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

The 3033 started doing minor microcode feature tweaks with the kernel software not running unless those features were available (by comparison, the ECPS kernel code dynamically determined whether ECPS was available or not and adapt accordingly, running on machines with or w/o the microcode tweaks). The 3033 wanted to offer something similar to ECPS on their machine ... but since the 3033 was already running at one machine cycler per 370 instruction ... it was difficult to show any performance improvement using that approach (and because of various reasons could even run slower).

The high-end clone processor competition reacted to this frequent microcode feature changes/tweaks with "macro-code" ... approximately a special state for 370-like instructions ... which was much easier to change/program than native horizontal microcode. Later this was then used to implement a special hardware hypervisor (basically a subset of virtual machine functions). It took significant time & effort for 3090 to react to this competition with PR/SM ... since it all had to be done (in the much more difficult) native horizontal "microcode".

disclaimer: I had transferred from CSC to SJR in san jose and was regular at monthly baybunch meetings. I did a series of presentations at baybunch on how ECPS was done. the people in the audience that were working on hypervisor with macrocode in the audience were asking loads of questions (hypervisor hadn't been announced yet).

some past posts mentioning PR/SM and/or macrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#3 Is Microsoft becoming folklore?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#58 Was MVS/SE designed to confound Amdahl?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#69 What is a Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#68 Linear search vs. Binary search
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#36 The Subroutine Call
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#46 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#62 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#80 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#82 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#17 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#20 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#39 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#90 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#10 R.I.P. PDP-10?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#19 DG Nova 1200 as console
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#100 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#161 Slushware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again

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The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
Date: 02 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
and Google+
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/38836CbWkfm

"The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order"
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Bretton-Woods-Relations-University-ebook/dp/B00B5ZQ72Y/

a little biasing events around these two players in the first half of last century.

It portrays White as under the influence of the Soviets, who secretly provided him with a draft of demands that US should issue to Japan ... that would prompt Japan to attack the US (Germany had attacked the Soviets and the Soviets were worried that Japan would also attack, they wanted to divert Japan into pacific conflict with the US).

other sources have tried to make distinction that majority of the congressional "neutrality" acts were attempt to counteract the enormous war profiteering that went on during WW1 and much of the respinning this as isolationism was motivated by those war profiteering forces, however both Britain and Soviets also had interest in portraying it as isolationism.

It spends some time going back to the start of the century where Britain is constantly manipulating & biasing world commerce for their benefit ... lots of the negotiations & intrigue between the US & Britain is over that uneven playing field.

"The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles" goes into some detail how John Foster was major force in rebuilding German economy and war industry (but only indirectly referenced as wallstreet).

It has a major Morgenthau's objective to reign in wallstreet's rapacious behavior ... wall street counters with offer of large loan to Britain if they would pull out ... would make for a tome treasury/white/Soviets versus wallstreet/dulles/germany ... last decade wall street was able to counter by capturing the agencies ... One joke was treasury bldg was GS branch office in DC because they managed to infiltrate so many of their people

posts mentioning "perpetual war" theme
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
and the military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

posts referring to treasury was GS branch office:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#81 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#79 The men who crashed the world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#63 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#71 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#8 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#9 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming

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John Titor was right? IBM 5100

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: John Titor was right? IBM 5100
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:59:12 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
Ah, yes; I found an earlier post of yours in a thread talking about the 5100 ROMs.

Since the 5100 had a copy of APLSV there - and IBM only recently consented to the publication of the APL/360 source as part of the release of MTS - I'd suspect that they still regard at least *that* piece of 5100 code as still of commercial value.

This is a pity, of course; I'd love to be able to download a 5100 emulator, but I think it unavoidable.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#42 John Titor was right? IBM 5100
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#44 John Titor was right? IBM 5100

note that CSC had done a port of apl\360 to cp67/cms as cms\apl. csc took a lot of heat over it because it provided straight-forward API to system services ... like doing file i/o.

since cms\apl was single user (relying on cp67 for multitasking) all the apl\360 multitasking & swapping could be removed. However there was a major issue with apl\360 storage management & garbage collection. apl\360 would allocated new piece of (unallocated) storage for every assignment ... and then when storage was exhausted it would garbage collect all in-use storage into contiguous locations. For apl\360 with 16kbyte (or 32kbyte) workspace swapped as integral unit ... it wasn't bad ... but cms\apl opened workspace size to full virtual memory area in cp67 demand paged environment. The standard apl\360 storage management guaranteed that any apl application would page thrash in cp67/cms environment ... repeatedly touching every location/changing in virtual memory. This had to be reworked for cms\apl to be much more virtual memory demand paged friendly.

PASC then did apl\cms for vm370/cms with the aplsv shared variable semantics for accessing system services (like file i/o) ... as well as doing the 370/145 apl microcode assist.

by this time the internal hone US datacenters had consolidated in bldg across the back parking lot from PASC (trivia, the bldg has another resident now, but when facebook 1st moved to the area, it was a new 1601 bldg right next door to the old HONE datacenter 1501 bldg).

The internal HONE originated ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

after the 23jun69 unbundling announcement ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#unbundling

to provide "hands-on" operating system practice for branch office SEs ... running in CP67 virtual machines. However, HONE also started delivering APL-based sales&marketing support applications (originally on cms\apl and then later apl\cms) which came to quickly dominate all HONE activity. In the late 70s, the consolidated US HONE datacenter (across the back parking lot from PASC) was the largest single-system-image cluster of loosely-coupled, 168 SMP multiprocessors (and also the largest user of APL ... especially as HONE-clones started to proliferate around the world).

the (PASC) 370/145 APL microcode assist tended to make pure APL code run as fast on 370/145 as (non-assist) APL code ran on 370/168. The HONE issue was that the online sales&marketing workload, while APL-based was also large virtual memory & heavy I/O ... workload needing the rest of the 370/168 capability (not available from 370/145). As a result there were various other kinds of efforts worked on to try and speed up the HONE APL applications.

disclaimer: one of my hobbies was providing enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters ... and HONE was one of my first & long time customers. as relatively new-hire out of school ... my first overseas business trips was being asked to go along for HONE-clone overseas installations.

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The Stack Depth

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 18:45:50 -0700
Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> writes:
Does anything predate the Manchester Atlas commissioned in 1962?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(computer)


we've had this quote about atlas (from Melinda's VM history)
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124044900/http://pucc.princeton.edu/~melinda/
and
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

from VM history

What was most significant was that the commitment to virtual memory was backed with no successful experience. A system of that period that had implemented virtual memory was the Ferranti Atlas computer, and that was known not to be working well. What was frightening is that nobody who was setting this virtual memory direction at IBM knew why Atlas didn't work.

... snip ...

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#81 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#82 Multiple Virtual Memory

past discussions are that Atlas had no address space identifier ... so design point was running program larger than real memory ... multitasking & multiple address spaces implied complete swap on switch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#18 A Brief History of Cloud Computing

CTSS was swapping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

... somewhat like apl\360 ... recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#44 John Titor was right? IBM 5100

some of the CTSS people then went to the science center on the 4th flr ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

and did (virtual machine) cp40 (and modified 360/40 hardware to support virtual memory) ... CP40 presentation at 1982 SEAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

360/40 virtual memory hardware was more like 801 inverted tables ... each real page was tagged with both its virtual address and the virtual address space identifier. A task switch would include switching the running/active address space identifier (so only those pages associated with that specific virtual address space would be "active").

which morphs into CP67 when standard 360/67 with hardware virtual memory support becomes available
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS

much longer pontification in this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management

a lot of customers had been convinced to order 360/67, the "official" operating system in the 60s for 360/67 was tss/360 ... but never quite made it to production quality. as a result some number of customers ran them as (real storage) 360/65 with os/360. Other places like Univ. of Michigan and Stanford wrote their own virtual memory operating systems for 360/67 (and the cambridge science center did virtual machine/memory cp/67).

Boeing huntsville modified os/360 mvt release 13 to use 360/67 hardware virtual memory ... but not paging. os/360 mvt had big problem with its storage allocation including tasks requiring all storage allocation contiguous ... and it was severely aggrevated with long running applications that would continously allocated and deallocate ... fragmenting storage. The Boeing os/360 MVT modifications was to utilize virtual memory hardware to reorg addresses to make available storage appear contiguous.

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The Stack Depth

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 10:02:51 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
much longer pontification in this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth

I've commented that in late 80s, I noticed some code in unix that was similar to code that I replaced in cp67 when i was undergraducate in the 60s ... hypothesis that both unix (through multics) and cp67 traced common heritage back to ctss.

spring & summer of '68 I rewrote large parts of cp67 ... first significantly reducing pathlength ... old post with part of fall '68 SHARE presentation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

but also paging subsystem, scheduling/dispatching, ordered seek queuing for disk i/o (instead of fifo) and chained page i/o requests for both drum & disks (2301 drum had throughput of around 80 4k page i/os with single request, with chained request could get close to 270 4k page requests, theoretic media transfer)

in the late 60s when I was redoing paging, including global LRU page replacement ... there was some academic papers on local LRU page replacement. in the early 70s, after Jim Gray left SJR for Tandem (palming off stuff on me), he talked to me at DEC81 SIGOPS meeting he asked if I could help one of his co-workers get his Stanford PHD. It turns out it included work on global LRU replacement and the local LRU replacement forces (including author of academic papers from the 60s) were strongly lobbying Stanford to not grant the PHD. Jim knew that I had a lot of data showing global and local LRU comparisons on CP67 ... showing global significantly outperformed local. old post with more reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?

past posts mentioning paging, page replacement, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
past posts mentioning scheduling, dispatching, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

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Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
Date: 03 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
FRAGILITY AND GLOBAL FINANCE. As global finance has become increasingly interconnected via electronics and integrated central bank policies it has become increasingly "fragile." The 1997 Asian financial crisis demonstrated this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis

there have been actual processes in place that would handle systemic risk ... including contagion from spreading. as those are removed or bypassed ... then one of the few things left are the "air gaps" between economies .... globalization is eliminating the economy "air gaps" so when contagion hits and the preventive processes aren't working ... it can easily spread around the globe.

Even before the economic mess bubble was bursting ... there were articles how near impossible it was to correctly value securitized mortgages and then later the economic mess wasn't TBTFs' fault because the risk managers weren't correctly doing their job (counter articles by risk managers were that they were directed by the business people to just do what they were told) ... followed by articles how hard it was going to be able to use TARP funds for the stated purpose ... purchase of the (off-book) TBTF toxic assets (because of the difficulty of valuing the toxic assets).

All of it was sham, obfuscation and misdirection. Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but w/o triple-A rating, they had limited market. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages as a countermeasure. However, the industry then found that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from testimony at Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that rating agencies played in the economic mess). Now triple-A rating trumps documents so they could start doing no-documentation, no-down, liar loans. With no documentation there was no longer issue of supporting documentation integrity as well as nothing on which to base risk or valuation calculations. Also from the law of unintended consequences, with no documentation the TBTFs had to setup robo-signing mills fabricating documents needed for foreclosures.

Note at the start of the century congress had passed Sarbanes-Oxley, claiming it would prevent future ENRONS and guarantee that executives and auditors did jail time ... but it required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of fraudulent public company financial filings, even showing increase after Sarbanes-Oxley (and nobody doing jailtime). Sarbanes-Oxley also required SEC do something about the rating agencies ... but nothing appeared to have been done. Also in the congressional Madoff hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff ... again nothing happened (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in).

If that wasn't enough, the TBTF also started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (significantly increasing the demand for dodgy loans). The triple-A rating allowed TBTF to sell to (loot) funds that were restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, some claims lost 30% and part of stories that they are now short trillions of dollars).
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
fraudulent financial filings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

recent refs to SEC "capture"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#16 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#18 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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The Stack Depth

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:24:44 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Lynn - it might be interesting to take a look at the Multics code that's now online to see if this hypothesis is true.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#48 The Stack Depth

what would be more interesting is the CTSS code ... since my understanding is the Bell people weren't long at Multics and predating the Multics code.

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 09:45:12 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
past references that John Foster Dulles (representing wallstreet and US corporations) was major factor in German economic recovery and military

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

"The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order"
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Bretton-Woods-Relations-University-ebook/dp/B00B5ZQ72Y/

portrays White as heavily under the influence of the Soviets, who secretly provided him with a draft of demands for him to get US to issue to Japan (which he did) ... that would prompt Japan into attacking the US (which they did ... Soviets were battling Germany in the west and were worried that Japan would attack in the east ... needed to divert Japan into pacific conflict with the US).

other sources have tried to make distinction that majority of the congressional "neutrality" acts were attempt to counteract the enormous war profiteering that went on during WW1 and much of the respinning this as isolationism was motivated by those war profiteering forces, however both Britain and Soviets also had interest in portraying it as isolationism.

It spends some time going back to the start of the century (and before) where Britain is constantly manipulating & biasing world commerce for their benefit ... lots of the negotiations & intrigue between the US & Britain is over that uneven playing field. things are spun as white (US) versus Keynes (britain).

Morgenthau (sec. of treaury, white's boss) had major objective to reign in wallstreet's rapacious behavior ... wallstreet counters with offer of large loan to Britain if they would pull out

with Dulles as major force in rebuilding German economy and war industry ... could make for a book with treasury/white/Soviets versus wallstreet/dulles/germany ... note last decade wallstreet was able to counter by "capturing" agencies ... jokes about treasury bldg as GS branch office in DC ... because they managed to infiltrate so many of their people (some number of recent news articles about wallstreet gives big bonuses to their people if they get important agency jobs in DC).

recent posts mentioning agency capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#81 Stanford Law School Covers Up SEC's Andrew Bowden's Embarrassing Remarks by Deep-Sixing Conference Video
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#6 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#18 SEC's Andrew Bowden Regulatory Capture Scandal Hits the Major Leagues with Los Angeles Times Column
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#49 Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail (& too big to manage)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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The Stack Depth

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:34:35 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
I've commented that in late 80s, I noticed some code in unix that was similar to code that I replaced in cp67 when i was undergraducate in the 60s ... hypothesis that both unix (through multics) and cp67 traced common heritage back to ctss.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#48 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#50 The Stack Depth

other trivia

before ms/dos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
there was seattle computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
before cp/m, kildall worked with cp67/cms at npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School

as previous mentioned

some of the ctss peopole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

go to the science center on the 4th flr and do (virtual machine) cp/40 (modified hardware of 360/40 to support virtual memory)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
then when standard virtual memory becomes available with 360/67, cp/40 morphs into cp/67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
other of the CTSS people go to the 5th flr and do Multics (some of the bell people had come up and work on multics, but then go home and do unix)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

past posts mentioning 4th flr, sicence center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

the problems with tss/360 ... prompted both Michigan and Stanford to do their own virtual memory system for 360/67 ... MTS (this has slightly different take on the 360/67 history than Melinda's tome)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Terminal_System
and
http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/

Stanford Orvyl/Wylbur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR

SLAC then become long-time user of (virtual machine) vm370 ... and was also long-time host of the monthly bay area user group meetings. recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#46 John Titor was right? IBM 5100

SLAC vm370 system is then platform for the first webserver outside europe/cern
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml
and
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/firstpages.shtml

Melinda's history tome, before she retired (gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124044900/http://pucc.princeton.edu/~melinda/
after she retired
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

also located in the bayarea, tymshare was offering vm370 commercial online service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

and in Aug1976, started offerring its vm370/cms-based online computer conferencing system "free" to the SHARE IBM user group ... archive here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

past posts mentioning virtual-machine-based commerical online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online

and about the same time, IBM consolidated its US (vm370-based) HONE datacenters in palo alto ... recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#46 John Titor was right? IBM 5100
other past HONE posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

other trivia ... in the recent posts in the 5100 thread ... I reference ther person at PASC that did the 370/145 APL microcode assist ... later he does the Fortran HX compiler optimization enhancements ... early availability inside IBM on vm370/cms as fortran-Q. SLAC (across palo alto from PASC) also get early version.

past posts mentioning fortran-q
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#1 WATFOR's Silver Anniversary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#52 Disk drives as commodities. Was Re: Yamhill
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#21 "Super-Cheap" Supercomputing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#6 a history question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#22 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#49 Why these original FORTRAN quirks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#62 Intel: an expensive many-core future is ahead of us
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#28 floating point, was history of RPG, Fortran
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#87 Gee... I wonder if I qualify for "old geek"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#49 The Mother of All Demos: The 1968 presentation that sparked atech revolution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#71 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#85 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#88 Ancient computers in use today

slac(/cern) also do their own 370 emulator ... just enough of problem state instructions to run fortran ... needing lots of processors doing initial data reduction from accelerator sensors. posts mentioning 168e/3081e
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#43 IBM 5100 [Was: First DESKTOP Unix Box?]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#8 The IBM 5100 and John Titor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#27 World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#85 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#69 Remembrance of things past
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#79 Ancient computers in use today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#87 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#28 The joy of simplicity?

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Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement
Date: 04 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/QsxNSWLSB2e

Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement
http://www.nationalmortgagenews.com/news/servicing/servicers-in-dojs-crosshairs-following-jpm-robo-signing-settlement-1047274-1.html

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but w/o triple-A rating, they had limited market. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages as a countermeasure. However, the industry then found that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from testimony at Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that rating agencies played in the economic mess). Now triple-A rating trumps documents so they could start doing no-documentation, no-down, liar loans. With no documentation there was no longer issue of supporting documentation integrity as well as nothing on which to base risk or valuation calculations. Also from the law of unintended consequences, with no documentation the TBTFs had to setup robo-signing mills fabricating documents needed for foreclosures.

Note at the start of the century congress had passed Sarbanes-Oxley, claiming it would prevent future ENRONS and guarantee that executives and auditors did jail time ... but it required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of fraudulent public company financial filings, even showing increase after Sarbanes-Oxley (and nobody doing jailtime). Sarbanes-Oxley also required SEC do something about the rating agencies ... but nothing appeared to have been done. Also in the congressional Madoff hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff ... again nothing happened (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in).

If that wasn't enough, the TBTF also started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (significantly increasing the demand for dodgy loans). The triple-A rating allowed TBTF to sell to (loot) funds that were restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, some claims lost 30% and part of stories that they are now short trillions of dollars). Triple-A rating enabling over $27T done during the economic mess
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
fraudulent financial filings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 09:57:04 -0700
"john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> writes:
That is a hell of a stretch given that Japan clearly attacked because they were aware that the sanctions on the delivery of oil to Japan would eventually see them unable to do anything about that.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

One of the Dulles brother references was John Foster not only wanted to keep on helping Germany with their economy & war machine ... but companies like GE and Standard Oil wanted him to keep on representing them in Germany also. There was some reference that Germany wouldn't have attacked Russia w/o the help of Standard Oil with synthetic gas/oil
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Whatever-Happened-to-Nazi-by-Grant-Lawrence-091207-70.html

Part of the Soviet draft US demands was blocking expansion south where Japan was looking for sources that could be used for synthetic gas/oil (as replacement for the supplies from the US). The Battle of Bretton Woods ends with more of this coming to public light with the NSA release of the venona tapes in the 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White

the issue of gas/oil supplies comes up in D-Day ... Churchill was constantly trying to delay/divert Europe invasion ... until Germany & Russia were exhausted slugging it out with each other ... with UK left as the strongest country in the region ... UK's perilous economic condition also comes out in "Bretton Wood" and "Churchil's Secret War" books, ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#35 Deny the British empire's crimes? No, we ignore them

US having said that they would invade in 42, then 43, but delayed until summer 44 ... the Marshall book has Eisonhower wanting to take Marseille the same time as Normandy invasion ("Anvil") ... but those resources were diverted further east. As a result Allied operations almost came to dead stop until they eventually got around to taking Marseille (port large enough to handle the volume of supplies required by the Allied effort). recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

other recent posts mentioning Dulles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#45 The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 10:37:29 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

The Battle of Bretton Woods, pg55/loc1053-55:
He authorized Hull to present the Japanese with what became known as the Ten-Point Note. Hull summoned Nomura and Kurusu on November 26 to deliver the austere ultimatum, incorporating White's demands ...

... snip ...

Hull Note
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note

from above ...
According to Benn Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, while "no single individual can be said to have triggered" the Pearl Harbor attack, Harry Dexter White "was the author of the key ultimatum demands". Steil also maintains "the Japanese government made the decision to move forward with the Pearl Harbor strike after receiving the ultimatum".

... snip ...

George F. Kennan ... has observation that US & Britain wouldn't have been able to defeat Germany w/o Soviets
http://www.amazon.com/George-F-Kennan-American-Life/dp/B0054TVO1G/

also reference to Soviets had relocated much of its industry east, out of German reach ... pg199/loc3981-86
After several days Kennan continued by train to Stalinsk-Kuznetsk, a city that fifteen years earlier had been a swamp. It now contained thousands of workers and their families, as well as one of the largest steel mills in the Soviet Union. Obviously it had required "a great feat of willpower and organization to build and put into operation at all an establishment of this size in a place so remote from the other industrial centers." Perhaps the sacrifices had been worth it if the plant had helped to win the war, but it had clearly cost far more to build and to operate than a comparable facility in the United States.

... snip ...

recent past posts that 75% of German's war effort was devoted to fighting Soviets
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

for the fun of it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#33 Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures!

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:21:40 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
the issue of gas/oil supplies comes up in D-Day ... Churchill was constantly trying to delay/divert Europe invasion ... until Germany & Russia were exhausted slugging it out with each other ... with UK left as the strongest country in the region ... UK's perilous economic condition also comes out in "Bretton Wood" and "Churchil's Secret War"

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#55 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

coming out of WW2 in such perilous economic condition ... having lost nearly all of the benefit from manipulating empire & world economic trade ... one of the things done was set up some of the small island possessions as "offshore" world money laundering and tax haven centers ... run out of the city of london ... "Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens" ... some base posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#26 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#60 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#60 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#66 NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales In China
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#2 weird apple trivia

recent post referencing city of london is money laundering capital of the world ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#35 Deny the British empire's crimes? No, we ignore them

posts mentioning tax havens, tax avoidance, tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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The Stack Depth

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 15:05:50 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
other of the CTSS people go to the 5th flr and do Multics (some of the bell people had come up and work on multics, but then go home and do unix)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#48 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#50 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth

Tom worked on multics
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/
in 545 tech sq.
http://www.multicians.org/multics.html

But also CP67 at the MIT Urban Systems Lab ... located across the tech sq. quad/sq
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html

from above:
When MIT and then Bell Labs chose GE machines for their next generation time-sharing systems, and the University of Michigan showed interest in Multics, corporate IBM woke up to the need for time-sharing and responded with the 360/67. IBM's concern over the "snowball effect" led them to announce plans to build a large-scale timesharing system, TSS/360, as described in an article by Judy O'Neill in the 1995 Annals of the History of Computing. So the 360/67 was the machine of choice for IBM's CP/CMS and TSS, as well as for the Michigan Terminal System, MTS, which was begun about the same time. The 360/67 was announced in August 1965, and 360/67 serial #2 was delivered to the University of Michigan in January 1967.

... snip ...

four blgs ... Polaroid was 2story bldg with Land's office facing the street, 545 tech was closest to the charles river and kendall sq, and USL was in bldg. opposite 545 tech sq.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
and
http://www.multicians.org/tech-square.html

from above:
Before the CIA office on the third floor had its typewriters stolen one night, the MAC building was open all the time, like a university building. In the evening, newsboys (Cambridge urchins) used to run through the halls at Tech Square shouting "Ecket" -- selling the Boston Evening Record. The building directory listed the CIA office as "R K Starling Associates." After the theft, there was a security guard in the lobby and you had to sign in and out.

... snip ...

above tome about CP67 crashing 27 times ... and able to immediately recover was motivation to rewrite Multics filesystem ... because Multics could spend an hour recoverying filesystem after crash (ala Unix).

I had done CP/67 TTY/ASCII terminal support as undergraduate and it was one of the things picked up and shipped as part of CP/67. Part of the code was some hack with one byte counter ... since TTY/ASCII was limited to less than 255. I think Tom was asked to support a new plotter down at harvard emulating tty/ascii terminal and he changed the max-line halfword field to 1100(?) ... so when the one byte calculations were performend ... it came up with incorrect length which resulted in storage corruption/overlays (resulting in the 27 crashes).

I was doing extensive changes to CP67 as undergraduate ... some even suggested by IBM ... in retrospect some may have originated from these guys ... which I didn't learn about until much later ... ref gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

Melinda's history lives on here
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

part of description of changes to 360/40:
Virtual memory on the 360/40 was achieved by placing a 64-word associative array between the CPU address generation circuits and the memory addressing logic. The array was activated via mode-switch logic in the PSW and was turned off whenever a hardware interrupt occurred.

The 64 words were designed to give us a relocate mechanism for each 4K bytes of our 256K-byte memory. Relocation was achieved by loading a user number into the search argument register of the associative array, turning on relocate mode, and presenting a CPU address. The match with user number and address would result in a word selected in the associative array. The position of the word (0-63) would yield the high-order 6 bits of a memory address. Because of a rather loose cycle time, this was accomplished on the 360/40 with no degradation of the overall memory cycle.


... snip ...

originally they had wanted 360/50 ... but all the spare 360/50s were going to the FAA Air Traffic Control effort ... so they had to settle for 360/40 instead. Comments were that was fortunate, since the modifications to the 360/40 turned out to be much easier than it would have been for 360/50.

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 16:01:43 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email

from long ago and far away:
Date: 04/05/85 10:48:25
From: wheeler
To: EHQVM1 xxxx

... doesn't look i can make it this month, got tied up in a lot of other meetings. currently planning on coming over in june

re: hsdt; fyi; gave pitch to NSF two weeks ago & it was very favorably received. NSF are tentatively planning on using HSDT to tie together all the super computer centers ... but they also expressed interest in having researchers working with us on the communications technology (in addition to buying HSDT as a production). I will also be presenting HSDT to Univ. of Cal. system next thursday for tieing together all the various UC campuses around the state and also feeding into the super computer center targeted for Univ. of Cal. campus in San Diego.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

ucsd supercomputer center also mentioned in this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management

response was to guy in Paris if I was going to stop buy soon ... he had been given responsibility for BITNET in Europe, aka EARN ... referenced in this email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320
in post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#65 UUCP email

NSF related EMAIL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
HSDT posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
BITNET(/EARN) posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

As I've periodically mentioned, congress cuts the budget, some other things happen, and they finally release an RFP. Internal politics ramps up to prevent us from bidding on the RFP (as well as doing various other stuff outside the company)

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production machines with paging hardware, The Stack Depth

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: production machines with paging hardware, The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:10:47 -0700
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
According to Blaauw and Brooks, the first commercial machine with paging hardware seems to have been the RCA Spectra 70 in 1965.

The GE-645 didn't ship until 1967, with Multics development runing under simulation on CTSS before that. The IBM 360/67 shipped in May 1966, but it doesn't look like any system using virtual memory ran in production until 1967.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#48 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#50 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#57 The Stack Depth

from Melinda's history:
Because Cambridge didn't yet have a Model 67, the developers had to modify CP-40 to simulate a Model 67, including the address translation hardware and the unique instructions in the Model 67's instruction set. One of these unique instructions was Search List (SLT). Bayles had designed the CP-67 control block structure to take advantage of SLT, so SLT was one of the instructions that CP-40 was modified to simulate. Early in 1967, having gotten a 'CP-67' system together on the Model 40, the developers dumped the system to tape and took it to Yorktown, where they'd been allocated some Saturday test time on a real Model 67. They IPLed the system and watched it immediately flame out with an opcode exception on an SLT instruction. When they told the CE who was standing by that SLT was broken, he replied, 'What's an SLT?' It was then that they discovered that the SLT instruction was an RPQ. 59 Soon after that, they began testing CP-67 on the Model 67 at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory, which did have SLT. 60 Lincoln's was one of the earliest 360/67s, and Lincoln was having severe problems with TSS. It was said to take ten minutes after an IPL to get the first user logged on, but the system's mean time to failure was less than that. So, when Lincoln's computer center manager, Jack Arnow, saw Dick Bayles IPL CP on the Lincoln machine and have the consoles up in less than a minute, he told IBM that he wanted that system. This demand rocked the whole company, 61 but IBM was so desperate to keep a system at MIT that it would deny Lincoln nothing, 62 so Lincoln was given CP and CMS, which they had in daily operation by April, 1967.

... snip ...

cp40 on the modified 360/40 had been in "production" operation in '66. ... and then later in '66:
In September, 1966, without having access to a Model 67, the folks in Cambridge began converting CP and CMS to run on the 67. CMS was relatively straightforward to move to the 67, but it was also being enhanced rapidly.

... snip ...

later the science center had a similar (joint) project (with endicott) ... where cp67 (running on real 360/67) was modified to provide 370 virtual machines. Then a version of cp67 was modified to run using 370 virtual memory ... which was in regular "production" operation a year before the first 370 enginneering machine was available with virtual memory ... in fact the "370" cp67 was used for initial test of that machine. Initial IPL "flamed" (in much the same way that cp67 first boot on real 360/67 because it lacked SLT RPQ) ... because they had reversed the op-codes for two new 370 instructions; that cp67 was quickly patched to correspond with the (incorrect, reversed) op-codes and then proceeded normally.

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:28:02 -0700
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
While the allies "delayed" they were also invading Africa, Italy, building the armed forces, designing new weapons ...

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#55 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#56 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN:ITS ORIGINS AND CONDUCT, loc:1311-15:
In 1942, Eisenhower and Marshall pushed hard for a ground campaign in Europe, but the British were at best reticent about the concept of SLEDGEHAMMER.

loc:1618-20:
First, the proposed American operations SLEDGEHAMMER and BOLERO-ROUNDUP were the preferred operations for the Americans who had set their sights on a cross-channel attack. George Marshall, Albert Wedemeyer, and Dwight Eisenhower had agreed that this was the logical path to victory over Nazi Germany.

loc:1636-38:
Although Marshall consistently pressed Allied leadership for an attack on northern France, it was again Churchill and his military advisors who carried the day. Consequently, once the North African campaign was over, the Allies (beginning to refer to themselves as the United Nations) would invade Sicily, firming up Allied control over the Mediterranean.

loc:1642-43:
For Marshall and Eisenhower, the failure of the British to agree to some type of military action in Europe in late 1942 to early 1943 remained a bitter pill.

... snip ...

they constantly pointed out that these side efforts didn't directly strike German military capability ... snide remarks that if Churchill had his way it would be 1947

loc5428-29:
As a result, Eisenhower dropped the capture of Berlin as a priority. On March 28, Eisenhower ordered the encirclement of the Ruhr. His plan was to first capture the Ruhr and then cut Germany in half on an east-west axis.

... snip ...

past refs "The European Campaign"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#70 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#84 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#85 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

a major architect of the "Marshall" plan on strategy for a Europe that could resist Soviets:

George F. Kennan: An American Life, pg359/loc7121-23:
The answer was not simple. Europe's most formidable war-making facilities—the Rhine-Ruhr industrial complex—lay within the boundaries of a country that had used them to start two great wars, the latter of which had left not only it but also Europe divided and for the moment powerless.

... snip ...

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:33:09 -0700
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
The 101st Airborne were not issued winter clothes prior to the Battle of the Bulge, with them at Bastogne. Some winter clothes did get to some of them later on.

Guderian mentions something similar for the Russia campaign. Panzer Leader (Heinz Guderian), loc2386-90:
It is frequently maintained nowadays that Hitler and only Hitler was responsible for the lack of winter clothing in the army in 1941. I can in no way subscribe to this belief. Proof of this is that the Luftwaffe and the Waffen-SS were well and adequately equipped and had laid in the necessary stocks in plenty of time. But the supreme command was sunk in its dream of defeating the Russian Army in eight or ten weeks; this defeat would result, they thought, in the political collapse of the Soviets. So confident were they of this that in the autumn of 1941 a considerable portion of Germany's industry was switched from war production to other purposes.

... snip ...

US planning got carried away putting way too many people in every MOS conceivable ... until they eventually realized that what they really needed was lots of infantry

THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN:ITS ORIGINS AND CONDUCT: loc4585-88:
For example, the AAF trained more pilots and aircrew members than were needed for the demands of the war. The War Department staff began to recognize that they had underestimated the number of combat arms Soldiers necessary to win the war. In 1944, the AAF transferred about 24,000 air cadets to Army ground forces to be retrained as infantrymen.7

... and back to the theme that strategic bombing contributed little to the war effort but represented 1/3rd the cost of war loc665-67:
For example, up to 220 bombers would be needed to destroy a small plant in good flying weather. AAF officers could not assure Washington that flying conditions over Germany would have perfect weather conditions.

... snip ...

other recent posts mentioning strategic bombing:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins

my wife's father was command of engineering combat group ... part of his status reports (at national archives) spring of 1945 from crossing the rhine to crossing the danube. they were frequently out-in-front of qeverybody else repairing roads & bridges ... and when that wasn't needed they were used as recon.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#33 Crossing the Rhine - 70 Years Ago Today - In Pictures

After desert storm somebody told me a joke about "who goes in first" ... recon or engineering combat (reference to combat engineers had gone across the burms three days before the ground war started, and were tens of miles into enemy territory.

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past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:21:38 -0700
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:
Even on D-Day, there was blockage when people couldn't get off the beach so there was no room for later troop carriers to land more people.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#60 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

previously posted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and PI

using strategic heavy bombers for low-level tatical battlefield bombing "The European Campaign: Its Origins and Conduct" loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level altitude sights.54

... snip ...

big part was they couldn't get off Omaha because of German defense aka Omaha was much more of a blood bath (compared to Utah) ... USAF has managed to slant history so it doesn't mention much of this. The claims for strategic bombing has repeatedly far exceeded actual ... recent refs to Warden planning for desert storm air campaign, claiming that strategic bombing could win desert storm w/o needing ground troops
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#38 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

GSA report on desert storm air campaign has large part of the destruction was by A10 (which many strategic bombers hate) ... with its 30mm cannon (not bombing) ... other recent posts mentioning A10
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#10 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#16 NYT on Sony hacking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#16 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#59 A-10

part of the normandy landings was (churchill) diverting resources to other activities

"General of the Army: George C. Marshall, Soldier and Statesman" pg410/loc8638-40:
Not transport planes, but the shortage of the 300-foot-long LSTs was to shape world strategy. Even with production at capacity, the Allies had too few of those tank-landing ships with which to invade the Andamans, take Rhodes, mount another amphibious landing in Italy, and still hold to the OVERLORD timetable.

pg430/loc9060-65
Lucas lost the opportunity to seize the Alban Hills commanding the roads south of Rome. Not for a week would Lucas feel his units strong enough to move out from the perimeter, and by then it was too late. It would take almost six months to crack the German defenses and travel the forty miles from Anzio to Rome. In that six months, the Allied effort in Italy would become not a support for OVERLORD and ANVIL but a drain, just as Marshall had feared. Unable to abandon their precarious foothold, the Allies turned tiny Anzio into the fourth busiest port in the world—largely supplied by the LSTs ticketed for OVERLORD. pg440/loc9285-87:
Marshall was irritated. The Combined Chiefs had agreed just weeks before that a seven-division assault in Normandy and a two-division landing in the south of France were possible on May 31 with the available reserves of landing craft. Yet once more, it seemed, no agreement was binding.

... snip ...

The diversion of resources (including Higgins boats) to Italy had impacted ANVIL taking Marseille ... port large enough to handle the supplies needing to keep invasion moving.

"THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN:ITS ORIGINS AND CONDUCT" loc2599-2601:
The Navy also launched many of the Higgins boats some 16 to 20 kilometers off shore, too far from the beach. The infantrymen then had to endure a lengthy and perilous journey through heavy seas and under heavy enemy fire. When sailors dropped the ramps, many American Soldiers went into water up to their necks or at least their armpits, and many drowned.

loc2420-24:
Eisenhower once asked historian Stephen Ambrose if he knew Higgins, and when the latter responded no, Ike said, "That's too bad, he is the man who won the war for us"

... snip ...

Higgins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Higgins
The Japanese, however, had been using ramp-bowed landing boats in the Second Sino-Japanese War since the summer of 1937 -- boats that had come under intense scrutiny by the Navy and Marine Corps observers at Shanghai in particular. When shown a picture of one of those craft, Higgins soon thereafter got in touch with his chief engineer, and, after describing the Japanese design over the telephone, told the engineer to have a mock-up built for his inspection upon his return to New Orleans.

... snip ...

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:28:58 -0700
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
Well, early flights over Germany, without escorts, gave results of one-third of all bombers being shot down. So bomber missions were pulled back to France. Loses were still high, just not that high. Marten Caiden's book 'The B-17' has lots of information on this.

actually Army Air Corp made a decision to not build long-range esorts ... claiming they wouldn't be needed and diverted all the resources to building heavy strategic bombers. Claims are that Army Air Corp repeatedly ignored the lessons from "Battle of Britain" where short range fighters were able to take large toll on the German bombers ... and the "short range" fighters used for defense in the "Battle of Britain" didn't have the range to act as (long range) fighter escort. It took quite awhile for Army Air Corp to (re-)learn that lesson for themselves and shift resources to (also) building long range escorts.

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:13:45 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
"THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN:ITS ORIGINS AND CONDUCT" loc2599-2601:

The Navy also launched many of the Higgins boats some 16 to 20 kilometers off shore, too far from the beach. The infantrymen then had to endure a lengthy and perilous journey through heavy seas and under heavy enemy fire. When sailors dropped the ramps, many American Soldiers went into water up to their necks or at least their armpits, and many drowned.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

at least on Omaha, the navy used the excuse of the beach obstacles as excuse to avoid the german fire ... which hadn't been taken out by the strategic bombing.

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A New Performance Model ?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: A New Performance Model ?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Apr 2015 09:52:48 -0700
idfzosdev@GMAIL.COM (Scott Ford) writes:
Agree you 100%. Maybe they need a second pair of eyes to review the design. I know I do and I will bet other software designers and system programmers do. A second pair of eyes is like a Dr.'s second option.. Like you mentioned something was missed and the easy out was a mainframe upgrade. I agree with everyone on this one, sometimes it's lack of experience too.

the IBM science center pioneered a lot of performance methodologies in the 60s & 70s ... hot-spot monitoring, system modeling, multiple regression analysis, etc.

some of the system modeling work eventually evolves into capacity planning. One of the system models was analytical model done in APL. The APL model evolves into the Performance Predictor available on the world-wide sales&marketing support HONE system ... branch office could obtain customer workload and system profile data ... feed it into the Performance Predictor and ask "what-if" questions (aka what happens if the workload changes, system configuration changes, more disks, more memory, etc .... major objective justifying selling more hardware)

Around the start of the century I ran into consultant that was making a living from performance consulting to large mainframe datacenters in Europe and the US. IBM's downturn in the early 90s, IBM was unloading some amount of its stuff ... and this consultant obtained the right to a descendent of the performance predictor and ran it through an APL->C language converter.

We met at a large datacenter that had a 450kloc cobol program that ran evernight on 40+ max. configured mainframes (constantly being upgraded, none older than 18months, number required for application to finish in the overnight batch window).

They application had a few dozen people in peformance department that had been working on it for decades ... primarily using hot-spot methodology. Hot-spot tends to shine light on sections that need logic examination for doing things better ... working primarily with logic at the "micro-level"

The modeling work fed workload & system activity data and identified areas that resulted in 7% improvement. I then used multiple regression analysis with application activity data to spotlight some macro-level logic that resulted in 14% improvement. Remember that this is an application that had dedicated performance group with dozens of people that had been working with this application for decades (but primarily using "hot-spot" methodology ... that tends to focus on micro-level logic)

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Messing Up the System/360

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Messing Up the System/360
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 18:52:07 -0700
jim.brakefield writes:
There was an article in 1969 that considered manual versus automatic memory management: Sayre, D. (1969). "Is automatic "folding" of programs efficient enough to displace manual?". Communications of the ACM 12 (12): 656

The Wikipedia article on virtual memory contains this reference.

More relevant to today's computers: what balance of automatic and manual memory management is most suitable for the three level norm: register, cache and DRAM (four levels if you count disk/SSD)?

Keep thinking using index registers (whether as GP registers or not) as DMA channels should work well?


there is from the science center:
D. Hatfield & J. Gerald, Program Restructuring for Virtual Memory, IBM Systems Journal, v10n3, 1971

science center did a couple different kinds of program execution monitoring that could be used to feed into Hatfield's program that did semi-automatic program restructuring.

the science center had also ported apl\360 to cp67/cms for cms\apl. apl\360 did 16kbyte (sometimes 32kbyte) whole workspace swapping. Storage management assigned new storage on every assignment ... when it exhausted workspace storage ... it would do garbage collection to compact all inuse storage to single contiguous area and start again. It didn't work badly for 16kbyte swapped workspaces ... but cms\apl had large virtual memory with demand pages ... effectively any nominal apl program that did any amount of computation would guaranteed to repeatedly touch every possible virtual page ... resulting in page thrashing. an option of the execution monitoring was to print plot of storage range touched every couple thousnad instructions. Printed out 6ft long strips tapped together along 20ft length of hallway. The cms\apl storage use pattern was sharp saw tooth, quickly rising from the floor to the ceiling and then straight drop back to the floor. it eventually resulted in rework of apl storage management and garbage collection to make it much more friendly for large virtual memory demand paged environment.

in the early 70s, the monitoring and semi-automated program re-org was used internally as IBM made the transition to all 370 systems running virtual memory, demand paged ... and then in the mid-70s, it was released as customer product as VS/Repack.

Earlier work
L. Belady, A Study of Replacement Algorithms for a Virtual Storage Computer, IBM Systems Journal, v5n2, 1966

L. Belady, The IBM History of Memory Management Technology, IBM Journal of R&D, v25n5


in the 60s as undergraduate, I significantly rewrote large parts of CP67 ... including the page replacement algorithm ... doing a global LRU replacement implementation.

In the early 70s, the Grenoble Science Center modified CP67 according to this (including local LRU page replacement):
J. Rodriquez-Rosell, The design, implementation, and evaluation of a working set dispatcher, cacm16, apr73

at the time, Grenoble had 1mbyte 360/67 (155 pageable pages after fixed storage requirements) running 30-35 users. at the same time, the Cambridge Science Center was running similar workload with 75-80 users on 768kbyte 360/67 (104 pageable pages after fixed storage requirements) with similar throughput and interactive response ... but with (my) global LRU ... aka 2/3rds the pageable pages and twice the users with global LRU was running better than local LRU.

After Jim Gray leaves IBM Research (and palms off some amount of stuff on me) for Tandem ... he gets in contact with me about helping one of his co-workers get his Stanford PHD thesis ... the thesis involved global LRU replacement and there was intense effort by local-LRU forces trying to block the PHD. Jim knew that I had detailed performance & throughput data from both Cambridge & Grenoble showing global/local LRU comparison
R. Carr, Virtual Memory Management, Stanford University, STAN-CS-81-873 (1981)

R. Carr and J. Hennessy, WSClock, A Simple and Effective Algorithm for Virtual Memory Management, ACM SIGOPS, v15n5, 1981
past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock

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The Stack Depth

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Stack Depth
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:07:40 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#47 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#48 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#50 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#57 The Stack Depth

recent post late yesterday in comp.arch on the subject:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#66 Messing Up the System/360

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30 yr old email

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 17:53:42 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email

Date: 04/08/85 10:19:03
From: wheeler
To: ...

re: NCAR; you mentioned about setting up a meeting with NCAR in Boulder. Would it be possible to set up a combined IBM/NCAR/NSF sometime 24-26? I've got people here that have met with NCAR people in the past. Larry Lee (NSF) also expressed interest in having a follow-up meeting with some of his technical people. A combined meeting in Boulder would be helpful.

Looks like your person is approved for the meeting in Berkeley (last I heard).


... snip ... top of post, old email index

NCAR would be one of the centers wanted to be interconnected with the NSF supercomputer centers. Past posts mentioned NSF interconnect
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet
past email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

Also NCAR had developed their own SAN/NAS type filesystem with IBM mainframe as server for their supercomputers ... all interconnected via HYPERChannel. Supercomputers would use HYPERChannel to make network request to the IBM mainframe for data. The IBM mainframe would download disk i/o channel program into HYPERChannel A515 (channel emulator) and then return handle for the channel program to the supercomputer. The supercomputer then would request execution of the downloaded channel program (using the returned handle).

I was somewhat considered the IBM expert on HYPERChannel and would get questions forwarded from the NCAR by the IBM branch office. Past posts mentioning HYPERChannel and/or high-speed data transport
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

In 1980, I had got con'ed into doing channel extender support (using HYPERChannel) for the STL lab (since renamed silicon valley lab) ... it was bursting at the seams and they moving 300 people from the IMS (DBMS) group to offsite building with remote access back into STL datacenter. They had tried "remote 3270" and found the human factors totally unacceptable. The channel extender support put "channel attached" 3270 controllers (and 3270 terminas) at the remote building with access back to STL datacenter ... with now perceived difference in service. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

At some point, Congress passes a bill trying to promote US competitiveness that removes some restrictions on gov. agencies and promoting their being able to commercialize technology. LANL, LLNL, and NCAR all have done hierarchical/network supercomputer filesystems and attempt is to made to commercialize them; LANL as "DataTree", LLNL as "Unitree", and NCAR as "Mesa Archival" (I get called in on all of them).

past posts mentioning "Mesa Archival"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#21 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#22 Disk caching and file systems. Disk history...people forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#66 commodity storage servers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#46 What goes into a 3090?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#61 GE 625/635 Reference + Smart Hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#29 360/370 disk drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#31 360/370 disk drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#6 IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#75 DASD Architecture of the future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#29 FW: Is FICON good enough, or is it the only choice we get?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#12 Device and channel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#15 Device and channel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#16 Device and channel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#19 Device and channel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#29 CRAM, DataCell, and 3850
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#47 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#51 Barbless
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#58 Disksize history question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#42 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#69 LPARs: More or Less?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#71 LPARs: More or Less?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#85 3270 Emulator Software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#34 Last Word on Dennis Ritchie
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#27 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#47 IBM, Lawrence Livermore aim to meld supercomputing, industries
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#46 Slackware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#9 3270s & other stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#15 Quixotically on-topic post, still on topic

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A New Performance Model ?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: A New Performance Model ?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 9 Apr 2015 09:37:32 -0700
sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Storage isn't what it was in 1982, and that's the whole point. It's faster, more reliable, and ridiculously less expensive. We shift our attentions elsewhere, rightly so, at least in terms of degree of emphasis. We simply don't worry about kilobytes if we're rational. This year we worry about terabytes, and maybe in the future we won't even worry about those.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#65 A New Performance Model ?

I've periodically mentioned that when measured in number of CPU cycles access to storage (aka a cache miss) is similar to 60s access to disk when measured in 60s CPU cycles (caches are the new storage and storage is the new disk).

for decades other processors (especially risc and then i86 when they moved to risc cores with hardware layer that translated from i86 to risc microops), have had lots of hardware features that attempt to mitigage/compensate for (cache miss) storage access latency; hyperthreading, out-of-order execution, branch prediction and speculative execution.

the claim is that at least half the z10->z196 per processor throughput improvement is starting to introduce similar features ... with further refinements moving to z12 & z13.

go back over 40 years, this shows up in 195. I've periodically mentioned getting con'ed into helping with effort to add hyperthreading to 370/195 ... which never announced/shipped. The issue was that 195 pipeline had out-of-order execution but didn't have branch prediction or speculative execution ... so conditional branches drained the pipeline. It took careful programming to get sustained 10MIPs throughput ... but most codes (with conditional branches) ran at 5MIPs. The objective with hyperthreading was to emulate two-processor multiprocessor hoping that two instruction streams running at 5MIPs each, would archieve 10MIPs throughput aggregate.

it was basically red/blue mentioned in this 60s ACS/END reference
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

Note that the above also points out that ACS-360 was shutdown because executives thought that it would advance the state-of-the-art to fast and they would loose control of the market. It lists some of the ACS-360 features that show up more than 20yrs later with ES/9000.

The equivalent to 195 pipeline careful programming ... is careful code ordering to minimize cache misses (in much the same way that 70s/80s code was ordered to minimize page faults ... requiring disk accesses). Recent discussion in comp.arch about (virtual memory and) VS/Repack out of the science center in the 70s ... which did semi-automated code reorganization for virtual memory operation. Before it was released to customers, many internal development groups had been using it for improving operation for virtual memory environment; they also used some of the VS/Repack technology for "hot-spot" analysis.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#66 Messing Up the System/360

aka part of the decision to migrate all 370s to virtual memory. Old post that the primary motivation for this was analysis that because MVT storage management was so bad ... that regions had to be four times larger than normally used ... a typical 1mbyte storage 370/165 ran with four regions. With virtual memory, it would be possible to run with 16 regions and still result in little or no paging.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory

topic drift ... what 370/195 didn't account for was that MVT/SVS/MVS in the period introduced extraordinarily inefficient multiprocessor overhead, typical guidelines was two processor operation was 1.3-1.5 the throughput of single processor.

this brings up the story about compare&swap ... invented by charlie at the science center when he was doing work on fine-grain (efficient) multiprocessor locking for (virtual machine) cp/67. initial attempt to have it included in 370 was rejected ... the 370 architecture owners said that the POK favorite son operating system people were claiming that test&set was more than sufficient for multiprocessor support (partially accounting for their being able to only get 1.3times the throughput). cp67 (& later vm370) multiprocessor support could get close to multiprocessor hardware throughput (with minimal introduced multiprocessor operating system overhead). we ere finally able to justify compare&swap for 370 with the examples of how multithreaded applications could use compare&swap (regardless of single processor or multi-processor operation) ... examples that continue to be included in POO. past multiprocessor &/or compare&swap posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp
past science center posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

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God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
Date: 09 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/god-no-the-u-s-air-force-doesn-t-need-another-curtis-lemay-37de19c11652

Napalmed half dozen German cities (including Dresden) and 67 Japanese cities (including Tokyo). McNamara was his aid doing statistical analysis of the bombing ... quotes LeMay as saying it was a good thing that the US won or otherwise they would be the ones prosecuted for war crimes (after the war McNamara leaves for Ford and later returns as SECDEF).

Strategic bombing survey (showing it contributed little to war effort) was done by roosevelt because 1/3rd of WW2 spending went to 4engine strategic bombers. In the 50s the USAF had fabricated a "bomber gap" to justify 20% increase in defense budget for building strategic bombers. The thing to remember about U2 was that eisenhower used the recon to debunk the air force "bomber gap" fabrication (and contributed to eisenhower's goodby speech warning about the military-industrial complex)

given that ww2 strategic bombing had such trouble hitting military targets ... the switch to napalming civilian cities may have been because they were a lot harder to miss (this comes up in precision bombing claims in desert storm that it only required 1/100th or less what was used in ww2 to take out a target).

Another spin has Japan about to surrender to the US (before the A-bombs) because they (also) didn't want to see the Soviets.

trivia: "The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order"
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Bretton-Woods-Relations-University-ebook/dp/B00B5ZQ72Y/

portrays White as heavily under the influence of the Soviets, who secretly provided him with a draft of demands for him to get US to issue to Japan (which he did) ... that would prompt Japan into attacking the US (which they did ... Soviets were battling Germany in the west and were worried that Japan would attack in the east ... needed to divert Japan into pacific conflict with the US).

Morgenthau (sec. of treasury, white's boss) had major objective to reign in wallstreet's rapacious behavior ... wallstreet counters with offer of large loan to Britain if they would pull out

"The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles"
http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/

goes into some detail how John Foster was major force in rebuilding German economy and war industry.

Maybe new book playing off treasury/white/soviets against wallstreet/dulles/germany

Hull Note
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_note

from above:
According to Benn Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, while "no single individual can be said to have triggered" the Pearl Harbor attack, Harry Dexter White "was the author of the key ultimatum demands". Steil also maintains "the Japanese government made the decision to move forward with the Pearl Harbor strike after receiving the ultimatum".

... snip ...

from the law of unintended consequences ... when army air corp was looking for strategic bombing targets in germany, guess where on wallstreet they find a large pile of documents with detailed plans and locations of industry & military operations. of course this is before it becomes apparent how hard it is to hit military targets and they switch to bombing cities (and when it comes to Japan, they don't have such a treasury trove of target details)

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

other recent posts mentioning Bretton Woods
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#45 The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#55 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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A New Performance Model

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: A New Performance Model
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Apr 2015 16:43:34 -0700
shmuel+ibm-main@PATRIOT.NET (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
I don't know what Agile specifies, but I was involved in rapid prototyping and we most definitly had reviews (code and design), unit testing and regression testing.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#65 A New Performance Model ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#69 A New Performance Model ?

i had continued to work on 370 stuff all during the future system period (when they were killing off 370 stuff, which is also credited with giving clone processor makers market foothold) ... and even periodically ridiculing FS activity (which wasn't exactly a career enhancing activity) ... past posts mentioning Future System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Eventually I migrated lots of my stuff from cp67 to vm370 (as part of the product migration from cp67 to vm370 there was a lot of simplification, including dropping a lot of performance stuff that I had done as undergraduate in the 60s). some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
including this from 40yrs ago this month ... re: csc/vm, one of my hobbies was providing enhanced operating systems to internal datacenters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

with implosion of FS, there was mad rush to get stuff back in the product pipelines, which contributed to picking up some of my stuff and including in standard release.

the 23Jun1969 unbundling announcement their was legal pressur on the company to start charging for software, however, the company managed to make the case that kernel software should still be free ...past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundling

However with clone processors getting market foothold during the FS period contributed to decision to start migrating to "charged-for" kernel software ... initially this was seprate add-on kernel pices ... and some amount of my kernel software was selected as guinea pig for charged-for kernel software as the "resource manager" (and I got to spend some amount of time with business people and lawyers about software charging policies). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

I had developed automated benchmarking process that included being able to simulate a wide-variety of configurations and workloads ... including severe stress testing that initially precipitated system failures (which had to be fixed/corrected). Side effect of the stress testing I completely rewrote the kernel serialization process that eliminated all cases of zombie/hung users and asynchronous activity failures. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#benchmark

In any case, a part of the initial release of "resource manager" there was over 2000 automated benchmarks that took three months elapsed time ... as part of validating the product. The first 1000 bencharmks were systematically chosen to cover wide range of known configurations and workloads (including some heavily stressed operating points well outside normal environments).

The final set of benchmarks were then under control of a modified version of the performance predictor. It would look at detailed data on all benchmarks run to-date, select combination of configuration and workload to be run next, predict what the results would look like, activate the benchmark ... and when it was finished, check the actual executation data against the predicted (effectively validating both the resource manager operation as well as the performance predictor predictions).

The standard product put out maintenance release every month ... and I got asked to do "resource manager" integration with standard monthly maintenance release on the same schedule. I countered with updated integrated maint. release every three months. I claimed that I needed to perform minimum of 24hrs of benchmarking regression validation before every new release ... and I had a fulltime job that I was otherwise busy with ... supporting the product for customers was in spare time from other duties.

I noticed that other performance products were doing performance regression testing for major releases similar (or less) to what I was doing for maintenance release. It was one more time realizing that I would never fit into standard product development.

semi-ralated topic drift ... after transferring to SJR, I would wander around the main plant site. Disk engineering had several mainframes used for development testing. At the time they were pre-scheduled stand-alone operation around the clock. At one point they had tried doing testing under MVS ... hoping to do some concurrent testing. However in that environment, MVS had 15min MTBF (system crash/hang requiring manual re-ipl). I offerred to rewrite the I/O supervisor so that it was bullet proof and never fail ... allowing any amount of concurrent, ondemand testing ... greatly improving productivity. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

MVS RAS expressed some interest ... not as I expected, what things were fixed ... folklore was they tried to have me let go ... for having pointed out the 15min MTBF. A few years later as 3380 disks were being released, every one of the standard FE regression error tests were still resulting in MVS failure (2/3rds of the cases with no indication of what caused the failure).

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IBM, Fujifilm cram 220TB of data onto tape-based storage that fits in your hand |

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM, Fujifilm cram 220TB of data onto tape-based storage that fits in your hand |
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Apr 2015 22:57:14 -0700
edgould1948@COMCAST.NET (Ed Gould) writes:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2908652/ibm-fujifilm-show-tape-storage-still-has-a-long-future.html


SONY 185tbyte last year not announced for mainframe. ... (possibly because too fast?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#15 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#16 The SDS 92, its place in history?

185TB
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/181560-sony-develops-tech-for-185tb-tapes-3700-times-more-storage-than-a-blu-ray-disc

referencing ibm-main thread, posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#64 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#65 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#16 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#75 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#79 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape

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EMV: Why the US migration didn't happen sooner

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: EMV: Why the US migration didn't happen sooner
Date: 10 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/SUQ6txS1qth

EMV: Why the US migration didn't happen sooner
http://www.zdnet.com/article/emv-understanding-why-the-us-migration-didnt-happen-sooner/

...

There was large pilot deployment of EMV in the US the early part of the century ... but it was during the "Yes Card" period ... EMV fraud described as worse than magstripe. The issue was that it was as easy to clone a counterfeit EMV from skimming data (as for magstripe) ... and once a counterfeit "Yes Card" was created it was immune to countermeasures like disabling account ("Yes Card" could instruct terminal to do offline transactions). There was detailed presentation at Cartes2002 ... reference (at bottom of URL) ... gone 404 but lives on at the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030729035156/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html

In the wake of the "Yes Card" case, all evidence of the pilot appeared to disappear w/o a trace and speculation was that it would be a long time before it was attempted again (people doing the pilot had been assured that there was NO problems with EMV).

I had even warned them before the pilot about the vulnerabilities ... but they had been completely assured by the chip&pin organization.

past "yes card" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

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N.Y. Bank Regulator Says Third-Party Vendors Provide Backdoor to Hackers

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: N.Y. Bank Regulator Says Third-Party Vendors Provide Backdoor to Hackers
Date: 10 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
N.Y. Bank Regulator Says Third-Party Vendors Provide Backdoor to Hackers
http://blog.norsecorp.com/2015/04/09/n-y-bank-regulator-says-third-party-vendors-provide-backdoor-to-hackers/

from nearly 20yrs ago, there is story of one of the major TBTF outsourcing Y2K remediation (including the most sensitive financial transaction processing) to the lowest bidder. It wasn't until much later that the realized it was a front for large criminal organization ... finding things like it could do stealth wire transfers to overseas bank accounts.

at financial PDD-63 meetings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure_protection
on information sharing
https://www.fsisac.com/

a major issue was that the ISAC wouldn't be subject to FOIA ... they weren't concerned about crooks getting the information ... they assumed that crooks already had the information ... they were worried about it showing up in the press and the public finding it out.

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Hillary Remains Clueless About Regulation on the 28th Anniversary of the Keating Five Meeting

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Hillary Remains Clueless About Regulation on the 28th Anniversary of the Keating Five Meeting
Date: 10 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
Hillary Remains Clueless About Regulation on the 28th Anniversary of the Keating Five Meeting
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/04/hillary-remains-clueless-about-regulation-on-the-28th-anniversary-of-the-keating-five-meeting.htm

from above:

The type of violations we had documented were invariably fatal. Keating had recruited the Keating Five through political contributions and through hiring Alan Greenspan as a lobbyist. Greenspan also served Keating as his outside economist to attempt to prevent the agency from adopting effective regulations to restrain looting by the Keatings of the world. In that capacity Greenspan had famously claimed that Lincoln Savings posed no foreseeable risk of loss to the FSLIC insurance fund. Greenspan was slightly (as in 180degrees) off as I just explained.

... snip ...

posts mentioning Fed chairman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

a couple recent Greenspan items:

Greenspan's Insulting Admission Of Fed Culpability
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-08/greenspans-insulting-admission-fed-culpability
Greenspan 2003 Or Yellen 2015: "We Don't Know Enough About How The Financial System Works"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-07/greenspan-2003-or-yellen-2015-we-dont-know-enough-about-how-financial-system-works

recent posts mentioning S&L, Keating, and/or Black:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#0 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#15 Banking Culture Encourages Dishonesty
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#25 Gutting Dodd-Frank
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#48 The 17 Equations That Changed The Course Of History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#60 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#67 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#81 Ginni gets bonus, plus raise, and extra incentives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#90 NY Judge Slams Wells Fargo For Forging Documents... And Why Nothing Will Change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#92 Ocwen's Servicing Meltdown Proves Failure of Obama's Mortgage Settlements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#2 do you blame Harvard for Putin
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#20 $2 Billion City Of Tampa Pension Story Major Media Missed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#22 Two New Papers Say Big Finance Sectors Hurt Growth and Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#24 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#31 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#51 bloomberg article on ASG and Chpater 11
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#54 National Security and Double Government
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#5 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#11 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#32 PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#49 Global Fragility and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#53 Servicers in DOJ s Crosshairs Following JPM Robo-Signing Settlement

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Your earliest dream?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Your earliest dream?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:22:34 -0700
Ibmekon writes:
Why was France so keen to bomb Libya ? It failed to sell any of its home grown Rafale fighter planes since its production in the 1990's.

From
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/feature/132379/why-rafale-won-in-india.html
The Indian Air Force, which was extensively briefed by the French air force in the autumn, was particularly impressed by its operational performance during the Libyan bombing campaign...

After which...

From
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/10/us-india-france-rafale-idUSKBN0N10R020150410
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said on Friday he had ordered 36 "ready-to-fly" French-made Rafale fighter jets...


God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/god-no-the-u-s-air-force-doesn-t-need-another-curtis-lemay-37de19c11652

Napalmed half dozen German cities (including Dresden) and 67 Japanese cities (including Tokyo). McNamara was his aid doing statistical analysis of the bombing ... quotes LeMay as saying it was a good thing that the US won or otherwise they would be the ones prosecuted for war crimes (after the war McNamara leaves for Ford and later returns as SECDEF ... for the Vietnam conflict where a lot more got napalmed).

Strategic bombing survey (showing it contributed little to war effort) was done by roosevelt because 1/3rd of WW2 spending went to strategic bombing. Given that ww2 strategic bombing had such trouble hitting military targets ... then the switch to napalming civilian cities may have been because they were a lot harder to miss ... they could at least demonstrate that they could hit something (this comes up in precision bombing claims in desert storm that it only required 1/100th or less what was used in ww2 to take out a target).

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

recent refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#20 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#38 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#63 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#64 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay

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Deutsche Bank Said Near $1.5 Billion Settlement on Libor

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Deutsche Bank Said Near $1.5 Billion Settlement on Libor
Date: 11 Apr 2015
Blog: Linkedin
Deutsche Bank Said Near $1.5 Billion Settlement on Libor
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-09/deutsche-bank-said-to-be-close-to-1-5-billion-libor-settlement

poss mentioning libor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

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French set euro¬1b bail as HSBC probe goes beyond Swiss branch

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: French set euro¬1b bail as HSBC probe goes beyond Swiss branch
Date: 11 Apr 2015
Blog: Linkedin
French set euro¬1b bail as HSBC probe goes beyond Swiss branch
http://www.icij.org/blog/2015/04/french-set-eu1b-bail-hsbc-probe-goes-beyond-swiss-branch

poss mentioning tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax havens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
poss mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

recent posts mentioning ICIJ
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#8 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#52 Report: Tax Evasion, Avoidance Costs United States $100 Billion A Year
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#3 About This Project: Swiss Leaks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#24 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#26 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?

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Belvedere Management: Massive Criminal Enterprise or Defamed Fund Manager?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Belvedere Management: Massive Criminal Enterprise or Defamed Fund Manager?
Date: 11 Apr 2015
Blog: Linkedin
Belvedere Management: Massive Criminal Enterprise or Defamed Fund Manager?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/belvedere-management-massive-criminal-enterprise-defamed-fund-manager.html

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Moody's Has a Cow, Slams GE's Masterful Financial Engineering

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Moody's Has a Cow, Slams GE's Masterful Financial Engineering
Date: 11 Apr 2015
Blog: Linkedin
Moody's Has a Cow, Slams GE's Masterful Financial Engineering
http://wolfstreet.com/2015/04/11/moodys-slams-general-electric-masterful-aggressive-financial-engineering/

How GE Will Fund The Largest Stock Buyback In History
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-10/how-ge-will-fund-largest-stock-buyback-history
G.E. to Retreat From Finance in Post-Crisis Reorganization
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/11/business/dealbook/general-electric-to-sell-bulk-of-its-finance-unit.html?ref=business&smid=tw-nytimesbusiness
GE to Cash Out of Banking Business
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ge-to-cash-out-of-banking-business-1428713151
GE Resorts To Financial Engineering to Boost Stock Price
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-11/ge-resorts-financial-engineering-boost-stock-price
Days Of Crony Capitalist Plunder---The Deplorable Truth About GE Capital
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/days-of-crony-capitalist-plunder-the-deplorable-truth-about-ge-capital/

recent posts mentioning stock buybacks:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#36 IBM CEO Rometty gets bonus despite company's woes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#51 bloomberg article on ASG and Chpater 11
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#54 National Security and Double Government
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War

... stock buyback
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:11:09 -0700
hancock4 writes:
I respectfully must disagree.

Years ago we had PROFs, and it was connected to the Internet so we could use it for email. It was extremely secure.

The reason it was secure was not because it was "inaccessible", but because it was in essence a manual system. A PROFS message had text only, no executables--it couldn't initiate execution of anything. Ok, so maybe that fits your definition of "inoperative", but let's remember that the purpose of the system was to send text messages, and that is what it did, and did well.

IMHO, computer viruses and hacking exploded when we added execution to remote function. A big form of "hacking" was simply learning or stealing someone's password and logging on. Have good log on control and one is protected, including restricting master access to certain locations, as was done in the old days. (In mainframe 3270 days, terminals had a hard address that could be checked, but this went away in the TCP/IP era.)


there was social engineering ... while PROFS wouldn't automagically execute something ... various kinds of executables could be distributed with various descriptions to induce people to execute them ... the "xmas exec" predates morris worm by a year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Tree_EXEC
morris worm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm

posts mentioning bitnet/earn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

lots of internet & tcp/ip code had either 1) backdoors that had been (innocently?) included that nominal were originally for test&debug purposes or 2) various kinds of C-language length exploits.

in the 90s, the claims were that the major source of internet exploits were various kinds of C-language length exploits.

as I've mentioned before the original mainframe TCP/IP product was done in VS/PASCAL that had *NONE* of the length exploits that have been epidemic in C-language implementaions.

However, standard desktop software that had been developed for closed, safe, private LANS which automagically executed code (frequently visual basic, that was buried in standard data files) in the middle 90s started to be enabled for tcpip/internet ... w/o any countermeasures for the wild anarchy of the internet. Going into the middle of the last decade, the exploit numbers were about evenly divided between 1) social engineering, 2) C-language length related exploits and 3) automagicly executed software.

This is old post about doing some analysis of the
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#43 security taxonomy and CVE

at the time, I talked to Mitre about trying to get more formal descriptions of exploits (which has since happened), but at the time they said they were lucky to get any descriptions at all.

past posts referencing epidemic C-language length related exploits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

for other drift, I've commented before that the original VS/PASCAL mainframe issue had some performance issues (possibly related to internal politics and its performance vis-a-vis SNA & LU6.2) ... getting about 44kbytes/sec throughput using nearly all of a 3090 processor. I did the software enhancements to the product to support RFC1044 and in some tuning tests at Cray Research, was able to get channel media sustained throughput between 4341 and Cray ... using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500 times improvement in the no. of bytes moved per instruction executed). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

posts reference high-speed data transport project
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

for other drift, long-ago and far away, we were brought in as consultants to small client/server startup that wanted to payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL", the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". As part of the effort, we did some detailed analysis of the various operations and came up with some security requirements for deployment and operation ... some of which were almost immediately violated ... which account for some number of the exploits that continue to this day. Some related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts

Part of the problem was that I had final sign-off on the operation between the commerce servers and what was called the payment gateway (sat on the internet and exchange transactions between commerce servers and the payment networks) ... but could only make recommendations on the commerce servers and the clients. As far as I know, the payment gateways have never had exploit ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

Later I worked on standard for payment transactions that implemented strong authentication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
and a hardware token ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

which could be used for payment transactions ... but the same exact token but also be used for a wide range of other authentication purposes ... including radius
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#radius
and kerberos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#kerberos

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How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
Date: 13 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/Fq8yq79Tgzz

How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bankrules-weakening/

Jan2009 I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings that resulted in Glass-Steagall & criminal convictions) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that the new congress might have an appetite to do something). I worked on it for awhile and then got a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (comments about enormous piles of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill).

The S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1,000 criminal convictions ... the recent economic mess was 70 times larger than the S&L crisis and has had *NO* criminal referrals and *NO* criminal convictions.

There was a Wharton business school piece from 2008 that estimated about 1000 were responsible for 80% of the economic mess and it go a long way to correcting the situation if the gov. could figure out something to do with those 1000.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
"glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

recent posts mentioning 30,000 criminal referrals:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#25 Gutting Dodd-Frank
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#67 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#92 Ocwen's Servicing Meltdown Proves Failure of Obama's Mortgage Settlements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#0 S&L Crisis and Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#22 Two New Papers Say Big Finance Sectors Hurt Growth and Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#11 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

past posts mentioning Wharton article:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#32 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#44 Fixing finance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#52 IBM CEO's remuneration last year ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#66 independent appraisers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#89 Credit Crisis Timeline
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#4 A Merit based system of reward -Does anybody (or any executive) really want to be judged on merit?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#67 Do you have other examples of how people evade taking resp. for risk
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#73 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#77 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#79 The Credit Crunch: Why it happened?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#85 Banks' Demise: Why have the Governments hired the foxes to mend the chicken runs?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#1 Are Both The U.S. & UK on the brink of debt disaster?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#11 Amid Economic Turbulence, Mainframes Counter IT Cost-Cutting Trend
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#18 Barbless
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#25 The recently revealed excesses of John Thain, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, while the firm was receiving $25 Billion in TARP funds makes me sick
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#36 A great article was posted in another BI group: "To H*** with Business Intelligence: 40 Percent of Execs Trust Gut"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#49 US disaster, debts and bad financial management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#53 Credit & Risk Management ... go Simple ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009b.html#54 In your opinion, which facts caused the global crise situation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#11 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#28 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#38 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#39 'WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL MELTDOWN'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#3 Congress Set to Approve Pay Cap of $500,000
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#20 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#27 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#35 US banking Changes- TARP Proposl
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#38 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#22 In the News: SEC storms the 'Castle'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#40 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#40 On Protectionism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#74 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#73 computer bootlaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#48 The men who crashed the world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#17 What's your favorite quote on "accountability"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#22 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#55 Search Google, 1960:s-style
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#64 IBM Is Changing The Terms Of Its Retirement Plan, Which Is Frustrating Some Employees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#4 HSBC's Settlement Leaves Us In A Scary Place
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#73 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#8 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#47 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:34:44 -0700
hancock4 writes:
Those weaknesses have been fixed (see "Exploding the Phone"). However, today, in the interest of providing open competition, anyone can get access via high volume trunks and shoot in malware, as we've seen from intentionally masked caller-ID and ANI data, and numerous other scams burning consumers with high charges. A difference between now and then is that back then, a Blue Boxer could only send out one call at a time, where as now a computer user could flood the system.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.

i've gotten numerous calls that appear to have fraudulently generated caller-ID, caller-IDs that look like random numbers ... caller-IDs that appear like valid phone numbers but contain invalid area codes, etc.

Note in the 90s, there started some internet attacks that had spoofed origin ip-address. I talked to some of the large ISPs about validating incoming packets having origin ip-address. The responses were that they didn't have the technology to do that ... however, it turns out that they had the technology (which included using it for other purposes) ... but apparently didn't want to validate origin ip-addresses for various business reasons.

supposedly SSL digital certificate technology was countermeasure to server spoofing ... however it required that the user new the relationship between the server they thought they were talking to and its URL. The browser then used SSL technology to validate the relationship between the URL and the server communicated with (both were required to establish that the server the user thought they were talking to was the server they were talking to).

One of the secruity problems, was almost immediately commerce servers found that if the whole session used SSL (from the time the user entered the original URL), it cut throughput by 90%. As a result they dropped back to only using SSL for the checkout/payment operations. Now the user clicks on a checkout button which supplies the URL used for the checkout section. Now the browser is actually only validating that what the server claims to be is the server that it is aka, crooks can get a valid SSL digital certificate for some valid URL ... the crooks then spoof the the original unvalidated URL ... then provide a different URL for checkout/payment that does have a valid SSL digital certificate (original assumption was that the user understood the relationship between the server they thought they were talking to and its URL).

The crooks can actually being doing a man-in-the-middle attack where the spoofed server and the spoofed checkout ... is only doing/monitoring passthru of input/output between the user and the *real* server(s).

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm3.htm#cstech11 cardtech/securetech & CA PKI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay11.htm#37 Who's afraid of Mallory Wolf?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay11.htm#49 A More Anonymous Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm11.htm#17 Alternative to Microsoft Passport: Sunshine vs Hai
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#27 Citibank discloses private information to improve security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm21.htm#31 X.509 / PKI, PGP, and IBE Secure Email Technologies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#28 JIBC April 2006 - "Security Revisionism"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#22 Naked Payments IV - let's all go naked
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#31 DDA cards may address the UK Chip&Pin woes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#1 Extended Validation - setting the minimum liability, the CA trap, the market in browser governance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#20 Tamperproof, yet playing Tetris
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#28 man in the middle, SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#30 man in the middle, SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#31 man in the middle, SSL ... addenda 2
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#32 Failure of PKI in messaging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#47 SSL MITM-attacks make the news
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#56 Threatwatch: MITB spotted: MITM over SSL from within the browser
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm27.htm#35 The bank fraud blame game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#63 SSL weaknesses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#36 solicit advice on purchase of digital certificate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#65 Real man-in-the-middle attacks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#65 SSL certificate modification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#52 SSL & Man In the Middle Attack
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#25 Idea for secure login
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#10 Cracking SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#6 Does OTP need authentication?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#10 Secure web logins w random passwords
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#0 simple question about certificate chains
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#52 TTP and KCM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#9 PGP Lame question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#36 Secure web page?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#7 SSL, Apache 2 and RSA key sizes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#49 Patent buster for a method that increases password security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#53 Forbidding Special characters in passwords
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#60 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#30 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#35 MAC and SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#20 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#26 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#32 Can SSL sessions be compromised?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#26 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#79 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#5 The Unexpected Fact about the First Computer Programmer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#12 How to tell a fake SSL certificate from a real one
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#63 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#66 The new urgency to fix online privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#55 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#56 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#32 Authentication in the e-tailer / payment gateway / customer triangle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#100 Wachovia Bank web site
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#72 https question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#63 SSLstrip hacking tool bypasses SSL to trick users, steal passwords
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#64 An interesting take on Verified by Visa Policy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#48 Inventor: SSL security woes are really the fault of browser design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#48 Strong Authentication Not Strong Enough
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#89 UAE Man-in-the-Middle Attack Against SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#0 UAE Man-in-the-Middle Attack Against SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#2 UAE Man-in-the-Middle Attack Against SSL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#48 ISBNs

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:10:09 -0700
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
Schnier (sp?) , who seems to be an expert, has it that there is a balance between security and comfort, (The more obscure passwords are, the more likely people will write them down or forget them)

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#83 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

that is just a dimension of memory for a single password ... from era of 20-40 yrs ago. today a person can have scores or hundreds of passwords and pins ... which enormously futher complicates the memory problems.

part of the issue is that typical pins&passwords are shared-secrets
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#secrets

kindergarten security requires that every security domain have their own (impossible to remember) unique (shared-secret) password as countermeasure to cross-domain attacks (somebody acquires password list from low-security domain environment ... and uses the passwords to attack high-security domain).

the hardware token authentication business wanted to replace passwords with hardware token ... as a way of addressing the password memory problem ... but that wanted to have a different hardeware token for each password (institution-centric) ... which would mean having to now manage hundreds of hardware tokens.

when I was doing AADS chip strawman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

... I got caught up in being able to switch to a person-centric paradigm ... only needing a single hardware token for all environments. Big issue was how to get institutions (even gov. agencies) to accept a person supplied hardware token for authentication (rather than an institutional issued one) ... this is slightly analogous to biometrics where you use your own fingerprints or iris-scan ... rather than an institutional issued fingers & eyeballs. The referenced AADS patent porfolio includes some person-centric.

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:26:11 -0700
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
PGP encrypted email is about as secure as email is likely to get.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#83 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#84 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

some old crypto related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#crypto

including discussion of public-key pgp-like operation (a decade before PGP)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email810506
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email810515

one of my issues in HSDT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

was that corporate required all corporate links to be encrypted ... which at the time was link encryptors (with DES) ... in the mid-80s, there was claim that the internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

had more than half of all link encryptors in the world. My problem with HSDT doing T1 and faster links, I hadted what I had to pay for T1 link encryptors ... and it was almost impossible to find them for anything faster. Above email includes references measurements that a 3081k processor, DES ran about 150kbytes/sec. Sustain full-duplex T1 would have required dedicating both 3081k processors just to DES.

I wanted an adapter card that would handle 3mbytes/sec and cost less than $100. I originally got dinged by the corporate crypto group that the implementation severely degraded DES integrity. It took me 3months to explain to them what was really going on (significantly increased integrity compared to standard DES) ... but it was hollow victory ... and I relized that there were three kinds of crypto 1) the kind they don't care about, 2) the kind you can't do, 3) the kind you can only do for them ... aka they said I could make as many cards as I wanted ... but there was only one customer, all had to be sent to an address in Maryland.

past posts mentioning three kinds of crypto
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#87 New test attempt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#86 Own a piece of the crypto wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#32 Getting Out Hard Drive in Real Old Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#43 Internet Evolution - Part I: Encryption basics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#63 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#47 T-carrier
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#88 NSA and crytanalysis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#50 Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#9 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#25 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#77 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:00:36 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Most of the PROFS terminals were in offices with at least minimal physical security, and it was difficult to hack into a physical phone line to spoof a terminal address. This was all before you even got to the password prompt.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#83 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#84 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#85 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

sort of along with all corporate network links being encrypted, in the early 80s, as portable PCs were becoming avilalbe for people traveling (early road warriors) ... company did a studied on remote access. one of the most vulnerable places identified were hotel PBX rooms.

corporation did a special encrypting modem (with corresponding encrypting modems at corporate sites) for remote access. it also had some sort of tamper-resistant goop over the sensitive parts.

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:35:57 -0700
hancock4 writes:
No. See above paragraph--it depends on the philosophy of the original design. The Internet and its connecting parts were designed to be _open_ and easy to use.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#83 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#84 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#85 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

as per previous ... in the 90s, the majority of the internet exploits were related to c-language length related programming mistakes ... not purposeful backdoors or design issues. by the middle of the last decade, automatic execution of visual basic embedded in data files ... had increased to be as frequent as length related programming mistakes (which hadn't decreased in number ... but the automatic execution of code embedded in data files had increased by such a large amount).

the automatic execution of code embedded in data files had originated in private, closed, business LAN environments ... and that LAN networking environment was extended to also include the wild anarchy of the internet w/o providing for any countermeasures. At the Moscone 1996 MSDC, all the banners said "INTERNET" ... but in all the sessions the constant phrase was "protect your investment" ... which was *code* for all the data file embedded visual basic programming.

neither the length related coding mistakes (i.e. the mainframe tcpip/internet product was done in vs/pascal and had none of the length related exploits epidemic in c-language implementations) nor the automagic execution of data file embedded code were inherent characteristic of the internet or tcp/ip.

past posts mentioning buffer related exploits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

past posts mentioning moscone MSDC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#32 Frontiernet insists on being my firewall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#51 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#34 IBM 8000 ???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#18 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#87 CompUSA to Close after Jan. 1st 2008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#44 SEC bans illegal activity then permits it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#101 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#15 What are the challenges in risk analytics post financial crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#79 Are the "brightest minds in finance" finally onto something?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#63 who pioneered the WEB
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#66 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#37 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#9 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#141 With cloud computing back to old problems as DDos attacks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#93 Where are all the old tech workers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#18 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#32 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#37 Simulated PDP-11 Blinkenlight front panel for SimH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#93 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#97 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#49 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#14 The growing openness of an organization's infrastructure has greatly impacted security landscape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#45 New HD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#68 Steve B sees what investors think
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#29 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#30 Zeus malware found with valid digital certificate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#23 weird trivia

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How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks
Date: 14 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#82 How Wall Street captured Washington's effort to rein in banks

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (but had limited market). In the late 90s, we had been asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as a countermeasure. Long-winded old post from Jan1999 (a decade earlier than being asked to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

However, the institutions found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings). Triple-A ratings trump documentation and they could start doing no-documentation, no-down, liar loans; with no documentation, there is no longer any problem with documentation integrity). The triple-A ratings opened up the market to funds that are restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, estimates that they lost avg. 30% of value in this period, and accounts for claims they are currently trillions of dollars under funded). Triple-A ratings largely responsible for doing over $27T during the period:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

Not satisfied with straight looting with the securitized mortgages, they started doing securitized designed to fail, paying for triple-A ratings, selling to their customers, and then taking out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (enormously increasing the demand for dodgy loans). And from the law of unintended consequences the lack of documentation results in the TBTF having to set up large robo-signing mills to fabricate the documents needed for foreclosures.

Note that rhetoric in congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would prevent future Enrons and guarantee executives and auditors did jail time, but required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company financial reports, even showing increase after SOX (and nobody doing jail time). SOX also required that SEC do something about the rating agencies ... again nothing seems to have been doing (and major role in the financial mess, 70 times larger than S&L crisis). Also in the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in).

Not only SEC, but also FDIC, this is account of FDIC senior large bank examiner catching WaMu early on .... reporting it up through the organization (including chairman), gets demoted and eventually let go ... and still fighting trying to get the govs. whistleblower agency to recognize his evidence.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Betrayal-John-Doe-ebook/dp/B00BKZ02UM/

triple-a rated toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
fraudulent financial filings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
whisleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
"glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

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Your earliest dream?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Your earliest dream?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:44:52 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
We don't normally target civilians. If the people we're after hide among civilians they occasionally get hit, and, of course, there are always accidents. The other side targets civilians directly because they're too cowardly to go after our troops. There's a huge difference.

Recent "battle of britain" series made a point that originally Hitler restricted targeting other than military/industrial targets in Britain. When a couple bombs fell short when targeting London docks, Churchill got mad and sent 50 bombers on night raid targeting Berlin. Hitler then removed all restrictions on civilian targets ... initiating the blitz. Of course britain is also noted for inventing air strafing of civilians in WW1.

recent references to US napalming (civilian) cities in ww2
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#20 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream?

Strategic bombing involved 1/3rd of the money spent on WW2 and had very poor record of hitting military/industrial targets ... somewhat as result, Roosevelt commissioned the strategic bombing survey which found it contributed little to the war effort (not even close to justifying cost) ... which possibly was the motivation to change to napalming cities ... since they were very large targets and very difficult to miss.

reference to USAF spent 9yrs bombing all of Laos, turning it into a "moon landscape"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#38 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

references to the military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

other past posts referencing strategic bombing survey
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#10 America's Defense Meltdown
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#91 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#40 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?

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Your earliest dream?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Your earliest dream?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:16:22 -0700
Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> writes:
The whole drive/filename syntax dates from an earlier time, abd DEC operating systems such as OS/8 and its bigger siblings. Devices there had longer names, e.g. DSKA:, DSKB:. And of course LPT:, etc.

THis all seems to have carried over together with the two part filename. Strannge that just the disk drives had their names abbreviated.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?

CMS (also) was "A" disk

before ms/dos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
there was seattle computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Computer_Products
before seattle computer there was cp/m,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M
before cp/m, kildall worked with cp67/cms at npg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Postgraduate_School

some of the ctss peopole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

go to the science center on the 4th flr and do (virtual machine) cp/40 (modified hardware of 360/40 to support virtual memory)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt
then when standard virtual memory becomes available with 360/67, cp/40 morphs into cp/67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS
other of the CTSS people go to the 5th flr and do Multics (some of the bell people had come up and work on multics, but then go home and do unix)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

past posts mentioning science center on 4th flr 545 tech sq.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

recent posts mentioning ms/dos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#57 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#69 Remembrance of things past
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#28 The joy of simplicity?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#30 The joy of simplicity?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth

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Critique of System/360, 1967

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Critique of System/360, 1967
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:20:16 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
It was financially unsuccessful for IBM, so much so that the 360/85 was the prototype for the 370/165 and the 3033, the top-end machines of IBM's line afterwards.

But I can't call something a disaster that ended up yielding great benefits for the world. The 360/85 gave us cache; the 360/91 gave us proper out-of-order execution with Tomasulo's algorithm. And Goldschmidt division.


there there is acs/360
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

some of the features show up more than 20yrs later with es/9000

recent posts mentioning acs/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#27 Webcasts - New Technology for System z
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#61 ou sont les VAXen d'antan, was Variable-Length Instructions that aren't
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#26 OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#69 A New Performance Model ?

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DEBE?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEBE?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:55:42 -0700
similar ... was Lincoln Labs LLMPS ... was share contribution library (I think I may still have hardcopy of the share document, and may even scan it someday). it had its own multitasking monitor and folklore is that Univ. of Mich. started out with LLMPS for the core of MTS.

1401 had a simple "MPIO" that did card->tape and tape->printer/punch and the univ. used the 1401 as unit record front-end to its 709. They univ was "sold" a 360/67 to replace 1401/709 combo and during the transition the 1401 was replaced with 360/30. They could have continued to run the 1401 MPIO in hardware emulation mode on 360/30 ... but they gave me the job of doing 360 port .... and I got to design my own monitor, dispatcher, device drivers, interrupt handlers, dynamic storage management, etc ... could even concurrently do card->tape and tape->printer/punch.

other trivia ... Hendricks had done RSCS/VNET ... used for the internal network as well as for the corporate sponsored univ. bitnet/earn. he had done his own simplified multitasking monitor for managing all the line drivers. Talking to him many years later (after having left IBM), he said he was doing job that involved some real-time systems. He said he noticed something familiar in the major industry real-time system ... and double checked ... the dispatcher was essentially a statement-for-statement conversion of his VNET dispatcher from 360 assembler to C ... even to retaining the same comments.

posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
posts mentioning bitnet(/earn)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

past posts mentioning LLMPS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#15 unit record & other controllers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#23 MTS & LLMPS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#25 MTS & LLMPS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#26 MTS & LLMPS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#15 S/360 operating systems geneaology
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#89 Ux's good points.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#0 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#55 TSS/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#45 Valid reference on lunar mission data being unreadable?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#89 TSS/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#54 SHARE MVT Project anniversary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#64 PLX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#41 SLAC 370 Pascal compiler found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#31 someone looking to donate IBM magazines and stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#16 Xah Lee's Unixism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#20 RISCs too close to hardware?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#56 Software for IBM 360/30
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#41 PDP-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#42 Why Didn't The Cent Sign or the Exclamation Mark Print?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#54 new 40+ yr old, disruptive technology
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#18 Folklore references to CP67 at Lincoln Labs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#23 T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#85 IBM Floating-point myths
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#76 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#25 VM370 40yr anniv, CP67 44yr anniv
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#50 curly brace languages source code style quides

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HONE Shutdown

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: HONE Shutdown
Date: 16 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
recently got a question asking was HONE finally shutdown, does anybody know??? I have old email from May1998 saying it was going away ... but no final date.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

HONE (hands-on network environment) originated in the wake of 23June1969 unbundling announcement; starting to charge for (application) software (they managed to make the case that kernel software should still be free), SE services, etc. The issue was that SEs had gotten their training as sort of apprentice program as part of large group at customer site. After unbundling, nobody could figure out how *NOT* to charge for apprentice/learning SEs on customer site. There were a number of US datacenters with 360/67 running (virtual machine) CP67/CMS with remote access from branch office. The idea was that SEs could practice running guest operating systems in CP67 virtual machines.

One of my hobbies at IBM was providing enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters ... including HONE.

APL\360 was also ported to CMS as CMS\APL. HONE then started also offering APL-based online sales&marketing support applications. Eventually the (APL-based) online sales&marketing support applications came to dominate all HONE activity ... and the original HONE purpose for SE training/practice withered away & disappeared. Along the way, HONE migrated from CP67 to VM370 and HONE clones began sprouting up all over the world (early on I was asked to go along for some of the installations ... like when EMEA hdqtrs moved from US to Paris).

In the mid-70s, the US HONE datacenters were consolidated in Palo Alto (trivia: when FACEBOOK 1st moved to silicon valley, they moved into new bldg, next door to the old HONE datacenter bldg). In the late 70s, the datacenter was running possibly the largest single-system-image cluster (loosely-coupled) complex of multiprocessors in the world (aka multiple 370/168 multiprocessors). Then the Palo Alto center was replicated in Dallas for availability (with fall-over in case of failure like earthquake), and then another replication in Boulder.

The HONE cluster code ... including load balancing and fall over recovery was never released to customers. I believe IBM may have finally shipped something to customers a couple yrs ago (30 some yrs later)

Of course a little less than 10yrs later we did do cluster that shipped to customers ... but it was for RS/6000 ... was working with RDBMS vendors and national labs on cluster scale up. The mainframe DB2 people started complaining that if we were allowed to continue ... it would be at least 5yrs ahead of them. Not long later the national lab part of cluster scale up was transferred and we were told we couldn't do anything with more than four processors (we just had a meeting in conference room w/ceo of Oracle saying we would have 16way in couple months and 128way by yearend
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

Old reference to the meeting in Ellison's conference room Jan1992:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

within a month, the national lab cluster scaleup was transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than 4 processors, and announced as ibm supercomputer (and was major motivation to take the "early out" offer) ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

trivia: two of the other people in Ellison meeting later (also) depart and show up at a small client/server responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server, the startup had also invented something called "SSL" they want to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

1988 I got asked if I could help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they had ... which quickly morphs into the fibre channel standard (including the convention of downloading i/o programs to the remote end to minimize the overhead and latency with lots of protocol chatter, aka what I had done in 1980 for channel-extender) ... before ESCON ships. Later some POK channel engineers get involved with fibre channel standard and define a heavy weight protocol that drastically reduces the native throughput (in part because of the enormous latency of the channel protocol chatter) which is eventually released as FICON.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

There was peak I/O benchmark for z196 that used 104 FICONs to achieve 2M IOPS ... about the same time there was a *single* fibre channel announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS (aka two such native fibre channel higher throughput than 104 FICON ... running over 104 fibre channel).

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VM370 Logo Screen

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: VM370 Logo Screen
Date: 16 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
The email client for PROFS was taken from a very early version of VMSG. When the VMSG author offered the PROFS group a significantly enhanced version ... they tried to get him fired. The whole thing quieted down after he showed that every PROFS email in the world carried his initials in a non-displayed field. After that he only distributed the source to two people.

During the FS period, 370 efforts were being suspended or killed off. When FS failed, there was mad rush to get product back into the 370 pipeline. Part of that they head of POK convinced corporate to kill vm370, shutdown the burlington mall development group and move everybody to POK or otherwise MVS/XA wouldn;t ship on time (7-8yrs later). They weren't going to tell the group about the shutdown until just before the shutdown&move to minimize those that might escape ... but the info managed to leak (and lots of people managed to escape to DEC and other places in the Boston area). There was also a witch hunt for who leaked the information ... fortunately for me nobody gave up the source.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Endicott managed to save the vm370 product mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch (the vmshare archives have some number of customer comments about code quality during this period).

This was also in the very early inception of DEC's VMS operating system and there was joke that the head of POK was one of the biggest contributors to VMS.

1980 STL was bursting at the seams and they were moving 300 people from the IMS group to an offsite bldg. They had tried "remote 3270" and found the human factors totally unacceptable. I got con'ed into doing channel-extender support ... put channel emulator at the remote site along with channel "attached" 3270 controllers (claims were they couldn't notice difference in human factors between remote location and physically in the STL (since renamed silicon valley lab) bldg. Part of the channel-extender support was downloading channel programmers into the memory of the remote channel emulator ... which enormously reduced the latency of the channel protocol chatter.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

The channel emulator vendor tried to talk IBM into releasing my channel-extender support for customers ... but a group in POK objected because they were afraid that it might impact their ability to release some serial stuff they were working on. They didn't actually get there stuff released until 10yrs later with ES/9000 as ESCON ... when it was already obsolete.

3270 logo screen at the offsite bldg for the IMS people:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/vmhyper.jpg

trivia: queue1 & queue2 was introduced in cp67 release 2 by lincoln labs and included the eligible list for page thrashing control (replace the 10 queue implementation that was in release 1 cp67 that didn't have any page thrashing control and which may have come from ctss). I introduced queue3 with the resource manager for vm370.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/vmhyper.jpg
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

During the FS period (when 370 efforts were being killed off), I continued to work on cp67 and then ported to vm370 ... even periodically ridiculing FS activity (which wasn't exactly career enhancing activity). When FS finally imploded and the mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines ... possibly contributed to decision to include a lot of my stuff in release 3 ... and then other of my stuff to be released as the resource manager (note: a lot of the stuff that I had done for cp67 as an undergraduate had also been eliminated in the simplification that occurred in the morph of CP67 into VM370). old email about my move from cp67 to vm370 ... as well as "csc/vm" which was the distribution for internal datacenters:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430 ..

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DEBE - card alternative

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: DEBE - card alternative
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:35:08 -0700
no-spam-for-kkajdhafnijbddffdmhnaochiddnmbec writes:
And one could punch a one-card utility (using 360 channel programming) to do similar things with no operating system.

So I seem to recall having had a card for CC, one for TP, etc

Felt almost in control, using a single 80-column card to make a big beast like a model 85 do what I wanted.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#92 DEBE?

"IPL" button puts in 24byte read CCW at location zero with command chaining and starts it. it "reads" 24 bytes into location zero and command chains to the newly read CCW at location 8.

... two CCWs and PSW that is loaded when the I/O complete

the two CCWs could be used to read 160 bytes of instructions (and data).

low-store "fixed" storage locations htt://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#4
0-7 PSW ... from IPL 24bytes or placed there by software and used by "RESTART PSW" button 8-15 IPL CCW 1 (or old PSW when "RESTART PSW" pushed) 16-23 IPL CCW 2

....

there was a "3card loader" ... which could be placed in front of a compiled/assembled "TXT" deck and load it for execution.

past posts mentioning 3card loader:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#135 sysprog shortage - what questions would you ask?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#87 "Bootstrap"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#1 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#26 PDP-10s and Unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#42 IBM 029 service manual
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#15 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#16 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#7 IBM ad for Basic Operating System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#26 Getting at the original command name/line
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#15 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?

past posts mentioning DEBE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#64 PLX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#16 Xah Lee's Unixism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#76 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#50 curly brace languages source code style quides

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Data breach notification bill could weaken consumer protections

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Data breach notification bill could weaken consumer protections
Date: 16 Apr 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/bzgKGiNq5GB

Data breach notification bill could weaken consumer protections
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2911032/data-breach-notification-bill-could-weaken-consumer-protections.html

We were tangentially involved in the cal. state data breach legislation ... having been brought in to help wordsmith the cal. state electronic signature act.

Many of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues and had done detailed, in-depth public surveys. The #1 issue was identity theft, primarily of the form of fraudulent financial transactions as the result of breaches and there was little or nothing being done about the breaches. An issue is typically an entity/institution takes security measures in self protection, In the case of the breaches, the institution wasn't at risk ... it was their customers. It was hoped that the publicity from the breach notifications would prompt breach countermeasures. About half of the federal bills introduced since then would significantly weaken consumer protection.

past posts mentioning crooks harvesting information
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#harvest

past posts mentioning data breach notification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification

recent posts mentioning data breach
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#55 HealthCare.gov in Cahoots with Dozens of Tracking Websites
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#96 Anthem Healthcare Hacked
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#14 President to Issue Executive Order Encouraging Threat Intelligence Sharing

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Booz Allen Wolves Offer Advice on Protecting NSA Henhouse

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Booz Allen Wolves Offer Advice on Protecting NSA Henhouse
Date: 16 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
Booz Allen Wolves Offer Advice on Protecting NSA Henhouse
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/16/wolves-author-report-protecting-henhouse/

Spies like Us
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington
The Success of Failure
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

Success of Failure posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

recent posts mentioning BAH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#60 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#61 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#81 Ginni gets bonus, plus raise, and extra incentives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#83 Winslow Wheeler's War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#32 PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot

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VNET 1983 IBM

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: VNET 1983 IBM
Date: 16 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
VNET 1983 IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/vnet1000.jpg

1000 vnet nodes

The internal network was done by co-worker at the science center
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

and was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late '85 or possibly '86.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

It was 1983 when the internal network passed 1000 and internet/arpanet had great change-over from IMPs to TCP/IP ... at the time of the change-over there was approximately 100 IMP network nodes and possibly 255 connected hosts

for additional trivia, this is old post with a list of all corporate locations that added one or more network nodes during 1983:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

Part of the big upswing in number of corporate network nodes during the (very) late 70s and early 80s was the huge increase in the number of internal vm/4300 machines. One of the reasons for the arpanet/internet passing the internal network in the number of nodes was the communication group trying to preserve their dumb terminal emulation paradigm while internet had big increase in PC and workstation tcp/ip nodes.

previously posted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#53
Date: 16 December 1988, 16:40:09 PST
From: somebody
Subject: Class A Network number

As a welcomed gift from the Internet, my request for a Class A network number for IBM has been approved. Initially we decided to go with multiple class B numbers because it would allow us to have multiple connections to the Internet. However, as time passed, and IP envy increased, I found it necessary to re-evaluate our requirements for a Class A number. My main concern was still the issue of connectivity to the rest of the Internet and the technical constraints that a Class A address would present. At Interop 88 I discussed my concerns with Jon Postel and Len Bosak. Len indicated that although a Class A number would still restrict us to 1 entry point for all of IBM from the Internet, it would not preclude multiple exit points for packets. At that point it seemed as if Class A would be ok and I approached Jon Postel and the network number guru at SRI to see if my request would be reconsidered. It turns out that the decision to deny us in the past was due to the numbers I projected for the number of hosts on our IBM Internet in 5 years. Based on that number, they couldn't justify giving us a full Class A. Can't blame them. So after Interop, I sent in a new request and increased our projected needs above a threshold which would warrant a Class A. Although I doubt we will ever use the full address space in 20 years let alone 5, I did what was necessary to get the number. However, the application went in quite some time ago and I still hadn't received a response. Yesterday I found out that it was because I had put down an incorrect U.S. Mail address for our sponsor!!! These people are tough. Anyway, after Postel informed me about my error, I corrected it and sent in the updated application again. The result was the issuance today of a Class A network number for IBM. Being an old Beatles fan, I asked for Number 9. Cute huh? Whatever. Anyway, that's what we got. Consider it a Christmas present from the Internet.

As many of you know, I will be leaving IBM at the end of this year. Obtaining this number was the last thing I wanted to do for IBM and the IBM Internet project. The hard part lies ahead. We still have 10 class B numbers. A lot of engineering of the network remains to be done. I will leave that up to you folks. xxxxx will be assuming responsibility for the project after I leave. I wish you all the best. It's been fun working with you on this!! My only regret is that I didn't have more time for it.


... snip ...

other trivia: I had some stuff in booth at Interop 88 ... but not IqBM's booth, it was on the central area at immediate right angles to the SUN booth. Sunday night the floor networks were crashing well into Monday morning before they figured out what it was. The solutions then shows up as requirement in RFC1122. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#interop88

Note that IBM's mainframe TCP/IP product was implemented in vs/pascal but has some performance issues ... using a 3090 processing getting 44kbytes/sec. throughput. I did the enhancements to support RFC1044 and at some tuning tests at Cray Research between Cray and 4341 got 4341 channel sustained throughput using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500 times improvement in the bytes moved per instruction executed). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

even more trivia: Postel used to let me do part of STD1.

some drift, a bullying book was written about Edson, part of society forcing people to conform
http://www.amazon.com/Its-Cool-Be-Clever-Hendricks/dp/1897435630
however, not just peers but also educational system and institutions, Teachers Don't Like Creative Students
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/12/teachers-dont-like-creative-students.html

Google's Thrun: 'We're really dumbing down our children'
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/29/googles_thrun_were_really_dumbing_down_our_children

but just recent: "The surprising downsides of being clever"
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150413-the-downsides-of-being-clever

A little x-over with the HONE discussion. As i've mentioned, one of my hobbies was providing enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters, including HONE. In the early days, as HONE was being cloned around the world, I would frequently get asked to go along for the install ... including when EMEA hdqtrs moved from westchester to Paris.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#93 HONE Shutdown

I was also blamed for computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s & early 80s. folklore is that when the executive committee was tald about computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

I also would spent a lot of time at customer sites. One of the VM370 customer datacenters in the bayarea was TYMSHARE which started offering their CMS-based online computer conferencing for free to SHARE in Aug1976 ... archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare
some past email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

I made a deal with TYMSHARE to provide me with monthly backup tapes of all the VMSHARE files so I could make it available on internal systems (including HONE systems) and over the internal network. One of the biggest problem I faced was with the lawyers who were concerned that IBM employees would be contaminated by customer information. A trivial example was the 1974 SHARE report on the CMS/TSO comparison done by CERN. Copies inside IBM were stamped "IBM Confidential - Restricted" (available on need to know only) ... since it portrayed TSO so very, very badly.

Another customer VM370 installation in the bayarea was SLAC (sister organization to CERN) ... which had the first webserver outside Europe (on their VM370/CMS system)
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml

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Cyber Threat Sharing is Great in Theory, But Tough in Practice

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Cyber Threat Sharing is Great in Theory, But Tough in Practice
Date: 17 Apr 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Cyber Threat Sharing is Great in Theory, But Tough in Practice
http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/cyber-threat-sharing-great-theory-tough-practice-report

at financial PDD-63 meetings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure_protection
on information sharing
https://www.fsisac.com/

a major issue was that the ISAC wouldn't be subject to FOIA ... they weren't concerned about crooks getting the information ... they assumed that crooks already had the information ... they were worried about it showing up in the press and the public finding it out. A secondary issue was viewing info as competitive advantage.

We were tangentially involved in the cal. state data breach legislation ... having been brought in to help wordsmith the cal. state electronic signature act.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature

Many of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues and had done detailed, in-depth public surveys. The #1 issue was identity theft, primarily of the form of fraudulent financial transactions as the result of breaches and there was little or nothing being done about the breaches. An issue is typically an entity/institution takes security measures in self protection, In the case of the breaches, the institution wasn't at risk ... it was their customers. It was hoped that the publicity from the breach notifications would prompt breach countermeasures. Several Federal bills have been introduced since then, about half equivalent to the original cal. state bill and the other half would essentially eliminate protection and notification requirements.

past posts mentioning data breach notification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification

some recent data breach notification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#55 HealthCare.gov in Cahoots with Dozens of Tracking Websites
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#96 Anthem Healthcare Hacked
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#14 President to Issue Executive Order Encouraging Threat Intelligence Sharing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#96 Data breach notification bill could weaken consumer protections

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 10:35:25 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
All this required physical access somewhere. Not impossible, but an order of magnitude above today's open internet access.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#81 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#83 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#84 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#85 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#86 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#87 On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

in the early 80s, IBM was looking at "road warriors" with portable terminals and then PCs. A study found that hotel PBXs was one of least secure / most vulnerable ... easy for doing exploits (both easy to penetrate physically as well as remotely).

I eventually developed an encrypting modem card for PCs and required use (with encrypting modem banks at corporate locations). It also developed call-back connect protocol ... you call in, authenticate yourself, then it would hang up and call back the pre-registered number (somebody could steal you PC but still would need it being done from pre-registered number).

After IBM bought ROLM ... it found that PBXs were vulnerable to remote exploits ... but their were wide-range of exploit types like being able to activate phone with no indication to use for evesdropping in the room.

IBM also required crypto on all the internal network links
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

we were periodically reminded the the Russian SanFran consultant was direct line-of-site with major west cost microwave communication hub.

there was arguing with gov. agencies within a country ... for purely links that didn't cross national boundaries ... but it got more difficult when the links cross national boundaries. past post with list of corporate locations that added one or more network nodes during 1983:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#8

in the 90s, somebody gave talk on the result of war-dialing every possible phone number in the bay area ... where it found modems, faxes, etc ... result if whether they asked for password or just connect directly. one such "open" connection was a bay area "911" system. there were a large number of doctor and medical office systems that didn't require password. another report was on finding hvac control systems w/o password or with the original vendor default profile. In one case, an attacker ran temperature up to max for large financial datacenter ... that took the operation offline for at least 24hrs (claim is that transactions on NYSE was down 30% during the period).

past posts mentioning wardialing:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#38 "war-dialing" etymology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#41 "war-dialing" etymology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#48 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#73 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#76 Mainframe hacking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#50 Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#52 Wardialing statistics( was: "Cartons of Punch Cards" )
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#62 Caches, was Wardialing statistics(

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End of vacuum tubes in computers?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:18:07 -0700
Lawrence Statton <lawrence@perl.mx> writes:
According to a collector friend of mine, they were standard issue to radiomen in tanks.

in the battle of britain series ... one discussion was that the german fighters had throat mikes while the british had (very heavy) mikes built into helmet gave german fighters advantage in dog fights ... british had much harder time constantly swiveling/whipping head around looking for the enemy.

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End of vacuum tubes in computers?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:47:51 -0700
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
I was thinking of moving to the IBM 360 or systems contemporary to the 360. Disk drives vs. tape reduce tape swapping and sorts become much easier.

I've commented several times about the univ. transitioning from 709/1401 to 360/67 (mostly running os/360 as 360/65) ... the 360/65 was immensely more powerful computer than 709

this gives (his normalized MIPS) for 704 as .00635 and 7090 as .06653 (709 somewhere between 704 & 7090) while 360/65 as 1.06
http://www.jcmit.com/cpu-performance.htm

1401 ran tape<->unit record front end for 709. tapes were carried between 1401 & 709 tape drives and 709 ran IBSYS tape->tape, with a student fortran job running less than a second elapsed time.

Initial move to 360/65, student fortran job ran over minute elapsed time. This was synchronous card reader input and printer output ... even with HASP getting asynchronous unit record input/output ... it was still over half a minute (50-100 times 709).

Standard 3step fortran compile, link edit and execute ... for student jobs was almost all step scheduling setup and finish. lots of os/360 was designed around constrained real storage. Lots of standard system services for supervisor call was a series of sequentially executed transient SVC routines loaded 2k at a time through the SVC (2kbyte) transient area. Its transient load required (repeatedly) doing module lookup in the PDS library directory using multi-track search. This is channel program sequential search for module name .... for large library could require 10-30 disk revolutions each time. Once the PDS directory entry was found, it provided the disk location for the actual routine (single seek, search, read). Past posts mentioning CKD, multi-track search, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

Each standard step execution could require several dozen transient SVC loads ... which dominated student fortrans elapsed time. univ. finally get student fortran elapsed time down to less 709 with the installation of (UofWaterloo's) WATFOR monitor ... was loaded once and batch compile and execute large number of student fortran jobs. Some vaque memory, WATFOR was spec'ed at doing 20,000 statements/sec on 360/65. recent posts mentioning WATFOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#51 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#15 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#52 The Stack Depth

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auto-reboot

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: auto-reboot
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:12:45 -0700
Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes:
GCOS III normally would be set to take a dump to disk and reboot automatically. Today, GCOS8 systems usually run this way.

The auto-reboot can be turned off for cases where one is trying to track down something particular that might relate to boot time problems.

Auto-boot would also also fail if the dump files were full, so that the evidence from the initial crash was preserved.

Various hardware errors (e.g. disk check on critical disk) could well cause to automatic reboot to fail (or hang). So sometimes it was still neccessary to drive in at night when no operator available.


CP67 release 3 introduced auto dump/reboot.

this is tale of part of reason for MULTICS filesystem rewrite ... because it was taking an hour or so to recover compared to CP67 that could take a couple minutes (or less). MULTICS (GE645) was on 5th flr 545 tech sq, science center (did cp67) was on 4th flr. However, this tale is about (one of multics people) involved with a cp67 installation in tech sq. bldg across the tech sq courtyard ... and failed (because of a local mod) and rebooted 27 times in single shift.
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html

posts mentioning science center &/or 545 tech sq.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

cp67 auto dump/reboot contributed to enhanced cp67 being left up and running unattended ... expanding to 7x24 ... in the era when computer costs was recovered by charging users for use. initial offshift availability wasn't sufficient to recover costs having the system up ... but w/o 7x24 availability it was difficult to encourage offshift use (so lots of work was done on reducing offshift operational costs). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online

this was also an era were computers were leased/rented ... and monthly billing was based on system meter ... which ran whenever the process or i/o channels were active. One of the other features was termianl channel i/o program that would be ready to accept incoming characters ... but would otherwise allow the channel to go idle (when there wasn't characters, also significantly reducing costs of leaving system up 7x24).

trivia ... the system meter needed everything to be completely idle for at least 400milliseconds ... before coming to stop. The mainstream 370 batch operating system had an internal (time-driven) system process that woke up every 400ms (guaranteeing system meter never stopped) long after business had switched from rental/lease to sales. some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#4 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#85 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#19 weird trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#16 1950: Northrop's Digital Differential Analyzer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#56 This Chart From IBM Explains Why Cloud Computing Is Such A Game-Changer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#113 How Much Bandwidth do we have?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#18 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?

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On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: On a lighter note, even the Holograms are demonstrating.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:32:44 -0700
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
You're still addressing a question that nobody asked. Without first spoofing the routing tables, how do you successfully spoof an IP address in TCP?

spoofed IP addresses have been used for denial of service attacks of various kinds ... header has the destination/to ip-address and the origin/from ip-address ... just stick in origin/from.

Summer of 1995 the largest online service provider started having case with internet facing servers crashing. Over the next several weeks all the usual experts were brought in ... but the problem kept happening. One one of their people flew out to the west coast and offerred to buy me a hamberger after work. While I ate the hamburger, he explained the symptoms, I said that was one of the problems we identified when doing HA/CMP ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

I gave him a q&d patch which he installed later that night. I brought the problem up with several of the major vendors & other service providers ... but nobody was interested in doing anything about it (and the service provider with the problem had not wanted them mentioned in association with the problem).

Exactly a year later (nearly to the day), a service provider in NYC went public with similar symptoms ... then a bunch of vendors started providing solutions and patted themselves on the back on quickly they responded. some past refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#51 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#11 Caller ID "spoofing"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#6 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#35 Builders V. Breakers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#11 Top 10 Cybersecurity Threats for 2009, will they cause creation of highly-secure Corporate-wide Intranets?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#60 Core characteristics of resilience

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IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:55:50 -0700
hancock4 writes:
I think after the AS/400, IBM came out with the "i series" to replace it, but I don't know where that stands. That is, if someone had an AS/400 with lots of software written for it, what would they be using today?

FS had some bluesky ideas that hadn't been very well thought out from performance standpoint. object-like instructions with lots of data indirection for every instruction ... simulation showed that a FS machine made out of 370/195 level technology would have throughput of 370/145 (something like 30times slowdown). The single-level store was good from ease of use ... but terrible from throughput standpoint (because of the synchronous page faults crippling any sort of asynchronous high-throughput techniques). That and lots of other issues contributed to its failure

some additional discussion here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

folklore is that some number of FS retreated to rochester did significantly simplified FS as S/38 ... in marketplace where ease-of-use significantly dominated throughput and performance issues.

Part of S/38 single-level-store was it treated all physical disks as common space pool with scattere allocation. As a result, the complete system had to be backed up as single filesystem entity. At the time, single disk failures were relatively common ... but because of S/38 characteristic ... whenever there was a single disk falure, the disk had to be replaced and then the complete system had to be restored ... which could take 24hrs or more.

The move to as/400 was to be a combination S/36 & S/38 ... that included eliminating some of the S/38 FS features.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_i

from above:
The IBM System i, then known as the AS/400, was the continuation of the System/38 database machine architecture (announced by IBM in October 1978 and delivered in August 1979). The AS/400 removed capability-based addressing.[3] The AS/400 added source compatibility with the System/36 combining the two primary computers manufactured by the IBM Rochester plant. The System/36 was IBM's most successful mini-computer but the architecture had reached its limit. The first AS/400 systems (known by the development code names Silverlake and Olympic) were delivered in 1988 under the tag line "Best of Both Worlds" and the product line has been refreshed continually since then. Guy Dehond from Inventive Designers was one of the beta-testers of Silverlake. The programmers who worked on OS/400, the operating system of the AS/400, did not have a UNIX background. Dr Frank Soltis, the chief architect, says that this is the main difference between this and any other operating system.

... snip ...

In that timeframe (late 70s & early 80s) there was an effort to convert wide variety of corporate microprocessors to 801/risc (low & mid-range 370s, as/400, embedded controller microprocessors, etc). For emulation there was a flavor of 801/risc chips called Iliad that had some extensions for architecture emulation. However for various reasons, all the efforts floundered and reverted to custom CISC chips (and in the early 80s, some number of 801/risc engineers leave and show up at other vendors working on risc efforts). some past 801/risc posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

A different OPD (office products) / Research 801/risc effort was ROMP as a displaywriter followon. When this project got canceled they looked around and decided on retargeting to the workstation market and got the company that had done AT&T unix port for the IBM/PC (PC/IX) to do one for ROMP ... which becomes PC/RT & AIX. The followon is RIOS for RS/6000.

A single chip effort is then done as joint project with Apple, IBM, and Motorola (AIM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance
for power/pc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC

Rochester works with power/pc group for 801/risc chip for as/400 ... a decade after as/400 had abandoned 801/risc and went with CISC.

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IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:09:31 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
The IBM 3033 also came out in 1977. So, as their top-of-the-line product, I felt that perhaps more information would be available about its technology - the System/34 might not have embodied any fundamental innovations of its own, but instead used the same general kind of chip.

From the 3033 announcement, it is noted that this computer used chips that were twice as dense as, and significantly faster than, those on the Model 168-3.


3033 was Q&D effort after FS imploded (in parallel with 3081) started out mapping 168-3 logic to 20% faster chips from FS ... some detail here:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
past FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

however the chips has had ten times the circuits of those used in 168-3 ... initially going unused. there was some logic optimization to take advantage of onchip circuits .... getting 3033 to 50% faster than 168-3 (4.5mips up from 3mips).

303x used 158-3 integrated channels as external channel box. a 3031 was then 158-3 engine with 370 microcode and w/o the integrated channel microcode and a 2nd 158-3 engine with the integrated channel microcode (and w/o the 370 microcode). a 3032 was 168-3 with 303x "channel director" (in place of 168-3 external channels). A 3033 would have 1-3 channel directors. (aka up to three 158-3 engines running integrated channel microcode). Note that the 158-3 integrated channels were slower than the (native) 168-3 external channels ... so for some I/O things, a 3032 might have lower throughput than real 168-3 (with its real hardware external channels).

recent posts mentioning 3033
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#40 OS/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#45 Connecting memory to 370/145 with only 36 bits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#46 Connecting memory to 370/145 with only 36 bits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#60 ou sont les VAXen d'antan, was Variable-Length Instructions that aren't
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#61 ou sont les VAXen d'antan, was Variable-Length Instructions that aren't
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#30 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#39 Virtual Memory Management
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#44 John Titor was right? IBM 5100
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#57 The Stack Depth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#91 Critique of System/360, 1967

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crash, restart, and all that, was Your earliest dream?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: crash, restart, and all that, was Your earliest dream?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:29:45 -0700
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
Depends on the system and the application. For a very long time airline reservation systems (SABRE, PARS, TPF) have rebooted automatically in the rare occasions that they crash. I gather it takes about 10 seconds.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#103 auto-reboot

large sabre/pars/tpf had tended to be multiple, loosely-coupled (non-shared memory) systems ... where cluster operation tended to mask failure of an specific system crash & reboot.

one of the problems, was that they did loosely-coupled cluster in lieu of (shared-memory) tightly-coupled multiprocessor for scaleup. This came to a head in the early 80s with the 3081 multiprocessor ... and IBM wasn't planning on building anymore mainframe single processor machines. IBM was faced with all its TPF customers migrating to new clone vendor single processors.

Eventually IBM introduced a (single processor) 3083 (a 3081 with one of the processors removed) primarily for the TPF market (easiest would be to keep 3081 PROC0 and remove PROC1 ... but PROC1 was in the middle of the box leaving it dangerously top-heavy, they had to rewrire things so the processor at the top could be removed).

there were other issues with 308x ... some discussion here:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

supposedly 3081D was two 5mip processors ... but some critical (single thread) applications ran 20% slower than on 3033 (aka 4.5mip processor). 3081K increased cache size to supposedly get two 7mip processors ... but some of those applications ran about the same on 3081K processor as on 3033.

some recent posts mentioning 3083
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#20 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#21 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#49 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#50 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#50 Revamped PDP-11 in Honolulu or maybe Santa Fe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#105 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#99 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984

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Occupy Democrats

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Occupy Democrats
Date: 29 Apr 2015
Blog: Facebook
Occupy Democrats
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/photos/a.347907068635687.81180.346937065399354/832689813490741/?type=1&fref=nf

congress let fiscal responsibility act expire in 2002 (spending couldn't exceed revenue) ... 2010 CBO report had revenue reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T (compared to baseline fiscal responsibility act budget) for a $12T budget gap. In the middle of the last decade, comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for how badly they savaged the budget). Since 2010 it has been constant battle trying to get tax revenue increased and spending cut back to baseline. 2010 CBO report also included a little over $2T increase for DOD (compared to baseline), a little over $1T for the two wars and a little over $1T that couldn't be accounted for (in the 90s, congress passed a law that all federal agencies had to pass an annual financial audit, so far DOD has never been able to pass a financial audit ... there is some speculation that DOD might pass an audit later part of this decade ... more than 20yrs after the law was passed). Note the original justification for going into Iraq included estimate that it would only cost $50B ... current estimate for the long term costs (including veteran benefits and medical aid) will hit $5T (a 100 times increase).

posts mentioning fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

The looting of the SS Trust fund started in the 80s (attributed to the administration budget director at the time). Baby boomer/bubble is four times as large as the previous generation and twice as large as following generation. As long as baby boomers were working and paying into the SS trust fund, there was more money going in than going out ... aka building principal for when the baby boomers retired. However with the SS trust fund looting there is a $2.7T deficit ... and with the baby boomers retiring it will fall on the following generation (only half as large) to replenish what was looted.

Securitized mortgages had been used in the S&L crises to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of securitized mortgage supporting documents as countermeasure. In the early part of the century, they found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A rating (even when both the sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A rating trumps documentation and they found they could start doing no-down, no-documentation liar loans, pay for triple-A and sell off to institutions restricted to dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds; claims they have lost 30% or more because of these instruments). Over $27T of these instruments were done during the economic mess last decade. From the law of unintended consequences ... the lack of documentation results in the too big to fail setting up the robo-signing mills to fabricate the (missing) documents.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

If that wasn't enough, they then started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail ... creating an enormous demand for dodgy loans.

over $27T done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

Note that fiscal responsibility act was a congressional law (requiring spending not exceed tax revenue) ... not administration ... however administration could cook the books ... they could loot the SS trust fund. Having looted $2.7T ... they are now looking at ways to drastically cut the SS obligation ... since there could be revolt by the next generation over replenishing the looted funds.

Jan2009 (ten yrs after being asked to look at improving integrity of securitzed mortgage supporting documents), I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into crash of '29, resulting in criminal convictions and Glass-Steagall) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened this time and what happened then (reference that new congress might have appetite to do something). I worked on it for awhile and then get a call saying it wouldn't be needed after all (reference that enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill and other gov. agencies).

"glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1,000 criminal convictions. Economic mess was 70 times larger than the S&L crisis and has had no criminal referrals or convictions.

Congressional rhetoric about Sarbanes-Oxley early part of the century was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors do jail time, however it required SEC do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started do reports of public company fraudulent financial financial filings ... even showing increase after SOX passes (and nobody doing jailtime). SOX also had section requiring SEC do something about rating agencies (that turned out were being paid to give triple-A ratings on securitized mortgages when they knew they weren't worth triple-A).

congress passes Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
in the wake of ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

Semi-related ... congressional Madoff hearings had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in). about Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

head of CIA was replaced with somebody that would go along with Team B numbers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
Team B was also involved in supplying Saddam with weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war
replacement CIA director then is VP ... at one point claims no knowledge of such activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
and
http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm
more recent:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/12/jeb-bush-forest-gump-financial-improprieties.html
then there is also "Keating Five"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
one of the targets of "Keating Five"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black

team b posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

Note that the $50B for Iraq (could be $5T before all is said and done, 100 times larger) based on fabricated WMDs ... they did eventually find decommissioned WMDs from the 80s that originated in the US ... but the information was classified at the time
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

various agendas, MICC looking for trillions in revenue .... "Prophets of War: Lockheed Martin and the Making of the Military-Industrial Complex"
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-Complex-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/

tells how some corporate reps told former soviet block countries that if they voted in the UN for the invasion of Iraq, they would get NATO membership and USAID to replace all their old soviet arms with new US arm (bought from US corporations). makes a case that the whole Iraq invasion was just a "gift" to the military-industrial complex. Directed appropriations USAID (money that can only be spent for specific purposes) is one of the ways congress can feed MICC w/o it having to show up in the DOD budget.

military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military-industrial-complex

a little side-track on "surprise" invasion of kuwait .... sat. photo analyst reports to administration that Saddam is staging forces for invasion of Kuwait. The administration says Saddam would do no such thing and does a smear campaign to discredit the analyst. Later the analyst is reporting forces being staged for invasion of Saudia Arabia ... and all of a sudden there is some action. "Long Strange Journey: An Intelligence Memoir"
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

aka US had to decide between Iraq and Saudi Arabia

Note amazon reviews of "long strange journey" goes into some discussion of gov. denying Iraq used WMDs in desert storm ... which would have also originated from the US

for more WMD semi-related, last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been decommissioned, about to make it public, gets locked up in military hospital .... "EXTREME PREJUDICE-- The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq"
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

Back to "evil wallstreet" and the over $27T done between 2001 & 2008. It goes into some amount of detail that amount not sold to victims (like large institutional pension funds), some operations would sell to offshore subsidiaries and held "off book" and don't show up for the bank examiners (turns out executives can still get commissions/bonuses on such sales).

Secretary of treasury asks for funds to buy these "off-book" toxic assets from the too big to fail. Congress appropriates $700B ... but just the 4 largest too big to fail are still carrying $5.2T toxic assets "off book" at the end of 2008 (there apparently was never any intention of using TARP funds for that purpose ... since it was drop in bucket compared to the magnitude of the problem).
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

This is recent account of citigroup svp & chief underwriter early on blowing whistle on Citi enormous dealings in fraudulent mortgages last decade ...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-20/was-there-wrongdoing-done-in-the-financial-crisis-
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-lessons-richard-bowens-fcic-testimony-should-have-taught-the-nation.html
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2015/03/the-doj-and-the-sec-spurn-their-ace-in-the-hole-richard-bowen.html

His treatment was similar to what happened to the senior FDIC person in charge of large bank examination that caught the WaMu activities early and reported it up through the head of FDIC (demoted and then fired).
http://www.amazon.com/American-Betrayal-ebook/dp/B00BKZ02UM/

whisleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

some recent posts mentioning baby boomers:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#33 OT: article on foreign outsourcing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#42 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

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End of vacuum tubes in computers?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 01:01:21 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:
Hurricane and Spitfire pilots used throat mics - I have one here somewhere. Back in the late '50s I also used one to electrify a violin.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

they had some of the (british) oxygen facemask mikes at the presentation to show difference. presentation also mentioned that british didn't have pressure suits so high speed turns were a problem

this just mentions luftwaffe and panzer with throat mics (also pressure suits)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throat_microphone

past couple presentations have been running 1-2hrs ... but on the 9th they start at noon and run until late (some sort of anniv/date related to churchill)

quicky search on the web turns up mostly stuff for sale on ebay or other places
http://www.jonnywilliamson.com/product/wwii-battle-of-britain-era-raf-headgear-collection

finally found one here ... this is listed as later type g model introduced in 1943.
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/REL29698.002
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/REL33109.003/?image=1

this has earlier typd d with type 21 microphone and type E* with type 28 microphone (aka battle of britain period)
http://www.alliedflightgear.com/RAF%20oxygen%20masks.html

I'll try and get more information and pictures on the 9th.

still haven't found when throat mics were introduced for allies.

past posts mentioning battle of britain series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#14 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#63 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?

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IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 08:38:34 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
And now that the technology of just-in-time compilation has advanced, things became ripe for using the PowerPC to implement System i. But not for everything else.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#105 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#106 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

claim is that for a couple decades, i86 has been risc core with hardware layer that translates i86 instructions into risc microops.

in the late 70s when 801/risc/iliad was targeted to become of the core for everything ... including low-end & mid-range 370s ... the state-of-the art was sequential microcode implementing/decoding 370 instructions ... sort of like modern day hercules
http://www.hercules-390.org/

... that avg. 10 native instructions for each 370 instruction. these had been cisc microprocessors and 801/risc iliad would just replace that ... but using same approach (although circa 1980, I got sucked into some discussion with the efforts about doing just-in-time conversion) ... a one mip 370 implementation required a ten mip native cisc engine.

earlier in 1975, I had been involved in project that moved 6kbytes of high useage kernel 370 instructions into 6kbytes of native microprocessor instructions (static compilation) that showed a 10:1 performance improvement ... old post with some details of that effort:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#27 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#28 370 ECPS VM microcode assist

the current implementation for i86 to risc micro-ops isn't serialized but pipelined ... so to get 1 mip 370 doesn't require 10mip native ... it just requires more circuits that are running concurrently ... the latency for the pipeline is longer (but current pipelines tend to many stages and relatively long latency) ... each instruction pipeline stage is handled sequentially, but there are several instructions going on concurrently in parallel.

as a result, the throughput difference of risc & i86 cisc has largely been mitigated. i86 has larger install base so they can devote more $$$ to newer generations of chips that run faster, cheaper, better, lower power, etc

the claim has been the apple switch from power/pc to i86 was that power/pc efforts weren't keeping up with low-power chips for laptops and mobile.

posts mentioning 801/risc, iliad, romp, rios, aim, somerset, power, power/pc, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

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End of vacuum tubes in computers?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 09:26:06 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:
That's a good question. Aircraft radios are not my area of expertise, but a throat mic was available for the British Army 38 set of 1941. This was listed as "Throat Microphone No.2" so presumably there was an earlier "No.1". Source: "Wireless for the Warrior", Louis Meulstree.

I've sat in a few Spitfires, but that was a *long* time ago! (Also my mother used to build 'em...)


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

trivia ... they also had spitfire in the room during the talk (later model)
http://historicflight.org/hf/collection/spitfire/
http://historicflight.org/hf/collection/spitfire/spitfire-backstory/

... they moved a couple of the other planes that they had on display outside to fit in the spitfire.
http://historicflight.org/hf/

above has toast at 1600 to prime minister winston churchill (will be 10nov2015 in london).

there was also talk about 20s/30s fighters and the evolution of design for spitfire & hurricane and various improvements that occured over time.

more trivia ... a couple weeks ago they had one day free offer of all 8 (kindle) volumes of this set on winston churchell
http://www.amazon.com/Winston-S-Churchill-1874-1900-Biography-ebook/dp/B00VQG4FI0/

I'm currently on vol5 ... hope to have finished all eight by the 9th.

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JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 30 Apr 2015 09:07:49 -0700
sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Let's take a brief look at this "not exactly new" history. I can fairly easily trace JES3 back a quarter century. (Perhaps somebody else would like to go back into the pre-Sysplex JES3 era, from 1973 to 1990, to see what IBM recommended and/or required.)

trivia ... my wife was in the gburg JES group and part of the "catchers" of ASP (from the west coast) to turn into JES3. She then was part of the authors of JESUS (JES unified system) that combined all the features that the JES2 and JES3 customers couldn't live w/o ... but it never got very far because of various internal political issues.

She then got con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of mainframe loosely-coupled architecture ... where she did peer-coupled shared data architecture. she didn't remain long because her architecture1 saw very little uptake ... except for IMS hot-standby (until SYSPLEX and parallel SYSPLEX). She was also being badgered by the communication group to force her into using SNA for loosely-coupled operation (there would periodically be a truce where communication group had strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls and she could use whatever she wanted within a datacenter ... but then they would start badgering again).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

I can't speak to the other issues ... but on the JES2 networking side in the 70s & 80s ... not only couldn't JES2 talk to anything else ... talking to another JES2 at a different release level could result in taking down both JES2 and the MVS system. The issue was that JES2 networking implementation intermixed networking control and job control fields and minor release-to-release changes resulted in incompatible systems.

On the internal network, JES nodes were kept at edge boundary nodes. Major internal network talked to JES nodes by using drivers that emulated JES protocol ... and because of the issues with JES incompatible release vulnerabilities ... a large library of internal network software drivers grew up that would not only format fields expected for specific JES release being talked to ... but also handle JES release reformating ... allowing different JES systems to communicate. I've periodically commented on the infamous case of files from San Jose disk plant site JES system resulting in Hursley MVS crashes ... and it was blamed on the Hursley internal network software. The actual issue was some new release-to-release JES field incompatibility and the internal network software driver library hadn't been updated to handle the new case (as part of countermeasure for keeping JES systems at different release levels from crashing MVS system).

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

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