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2014 Newsgroup Postings (07/08 - 07/31)

IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Amid barrage of rockets, Iron Dome makes 2nd interception over greater Tel Aviv
IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
"F[R]eebie" software
TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
You can make your workplace 'happy'
With hindsight, what would you have done?
With hindsight, what would you have done?
Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
IBM & Boyd
Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
R.I.P. PDP-10?
R.I.P. PDP-10?
Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
IBM to sell Apples
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Firefox is BLOATWARE!
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Sale receipt--obligatory?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)
Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)
War or Jobs
UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law
Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?
Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?
Sale receipt--obligatory?
Sale receipt--obligatory?
Sale receipt--obligatory?
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Sale receipt--obligatory?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Sale receipt--obligatory?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Sale receipt--obligatory?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
transactions, was There Is Still Hope
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Sale receipt--obligatory?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
A computer at home?
A computer at home?
A computer at home?
A computer at home?
Cloud Wars: Now Even the CIA Slams IBM's Technology
The Mystery of Flight MH17: Motives, Missiles, Flight Plans, and the Media
New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
A computer at home?
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
StarWars
StarWars
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Counts
History--error checking in Baudot (5 bit) transmissions
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
make a new thread
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
The SDS 92, its place in history?
z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
The SDS 92, its place in history?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says

IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject:  IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
Date: 08 July 2014
Blog: IBMers
IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-16/ibm-sales-fall-again-pressuring-rometty-s-profit-goal.html

The Top 10 Jobs That Attract Psychopaths
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/

Past studies related to the economic mess was that wallstreet attract a large percentage of amoral sociopaths ... that much of financial activity is viewed as a game with the players preditors and the rest of us prey. Top executive in large public companies is another way of playing the financial games.

past posts mentioning sociopaths
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#4 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#16 Interview of Mr. John Reed regarding banking fixing the game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#99 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#1 Spontaneous conduction: The music man with no written plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#91 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#84 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#14 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#53 Retirement Savings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#76 Crowdsourcing Diplomacy

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:49:29 -0400
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
One kind of people believes politics and money to be a silly game, not worth fighting over. Whether you are in the dominant group or you have lots of money or not, that's not going to make a real difference in how many kids you have, and so it's not as if your genes will be eliminated from the next generation.

The other kind of people believe that wealth and power are indeed matters of life or death; if one lives in an area under the control of another ethnic group, for example, it's entirely possible one will be just killed out of hand, and whether or not one will get to mate and have children of course strongly depends on whether you're rich or poor.


from somebody's recent post in (linkedin closed) IBMers (employees and former employees) discussion

The Top 10 Jobs That Attract Psychopaths
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/

I made reference to have posted several times in a.f.c. that past studies have found wallstreet attracts a large percentage of amoral sociopaths ... that view themselves as predictors and everybody else as prey.

but then there is this recent item: Psychologists Have Uncovered a Troubling Feature of People Who Seem Nice All the Time
http://mic.com/articles/92479/psychologists-have-uncovered-a-troubling-feature-of-people-who-seem-too-nice

and from today

The age of entitlement: how wealth breeds narcissism
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/08/the-age-of-entitlement-how-wealth-breeds-narcissism

As people get richer, they are more likely to feel entitled, to exploit others, and to cheat. That extends to politics too

... snip ...

so what is cause and what is effect?

and from thread over in google+
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/graE4mQ2H35

In Banking World, Fraud Is an Epidemic
http://truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/24431-banks-systemic-corruption-and-governments-conflict-of-interest

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:18:02 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
I hate to see otherwise rational people bring up absurd points to refute the obvious. Each soldier had to kill 24 people. To assert that it would not be easier with a firearm is ridiculous.

The Face of Battle: A Study of Agincourt, Waterloo, and the Somme, loc3717-19:
The appearance of the machine-gun, therefore, had not so much disciplined the act of killing–which was what seventeenth-century drill had done–as mechanized or industrialized it.

... snip ..

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Amid barrage of rockets, Iron Dome makes 2nd interception over greater Tel Aviv

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Amid barrage of rockets, Iron Dome makes 2nd interception over greater Tel Aviv
Date: 08 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
Amid barrage of rockets, Iron Dome makes 2nd interception over greater Tel Aviv
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Iron-Dome-intercepts-second-rocket-over-greater-Tel-Aviv-361994

better than patriot: That Time an Air Force F-16 and an Army Missile Battery Fought Each Other
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/that-time-an-air-force-f-16-and-an-army-missile-battery-fought-each-other-bb89d7d03b7d

possibly even zero
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol

past posts mentioning Iron Dome
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#41 Rafael Team with Raytheon to Offer Iron Dome in the U.S
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#39 Beyond Patriot? The Multinational MEADS Air Defense Program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#49 Early use of the word "computer"

related to Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

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IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
Date: 09 July 2014
Blog: IBMers
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#0 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal

The Future Is Cloudy For Buffett's Investment In IBM
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2305625-the-future-is-cloudy-for-buffetts-investment-in-ibm

re: Cloudy article; There is big overlap in the technology used for supercomputers and the large cloud datacenters. The recent articles are that market is almost totally dominated by (free) Linux, not (proprietary) UNIXes. With the move to cloud, the commoditizing of x86 can be viewed as putting downward pressure on x86 profits. The other view is still producing x86 could be turned to competitive advantage in cloud services (this has been raised in articles about HP's approach).

a couple recent posts with reference to Linux dominance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#79 EBFAS

recent reference to HP approach
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?

other recent postings in IBMers blog
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#77 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#1 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#15 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#54 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#8 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#28 Does IBM CEO Rometty Understand Cloud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#53 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#56 China Wants Banks To Remove High-End IBM Servers Amid Spy Dispute
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#57 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#62 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#94 Why Financialization Has Run Amok
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#47 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#65 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#89 IBM, Lenovo server deal potentially scuppered over security

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"F[R]eebie" software

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: "F[R]eebie" software
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 9 Jul 2014 08:21:01 -0700
edjaffe@PHOENIXSOFTWARE.COM (Ed Jaffe) writes:
So-called "free" software is rarely, if ever, functionally competitive with priced offerings.

For example, I know from experience that demonstrating real productivity gains derived from (E)JES functional superiority over the "free" TSO/E OUTPUT command (i.e., ISPF Outlist aka 3.8) is trivially easy.

I suspect comparisons of z/XDC, TDF, etc. full-screen debuggers vs TSO/E TEST are equally compelling.

Perhaps more important than functionality to a small shop is the issue of intended user base size. It's hard to justify a product that will be utilized by only two or three users, no matter how functionally superior it is, unless the purveyors of the product offer a low, per seat pricing model - which can be somewhat uncommon for System z software.


note that in the OCO-wars from the 80s ... the issue of free software and availability of software source was treated as two separate issues.

23Jun1969 unbundling, started charging for (application) software, but made the case that kernel software should still be free. This changed in last half of 70s, with the rise of clone processors (largely enabled by the lack of IBM mainframe offerings during the Future System period) and decision to also starting to charge for kernel software.

the OCO-wars in the 80s was there was enormous benefit to source being readily available ... including a huge amount of innovation is enabled with the availability of source (line about if you aren't innovating, you are dieing ... albeit possibly slowly).

the recent articles about near total dominance of Linux in supercomputers and large cloud megadatacenters can confuse the two issues: source/innovation and free. An enormous amount of innovation was required for current supercomputers and cloud megadatacenters (which have significant overlap in technologies and both required readily available source, there are even articles about research institutions using credit card to spin up ondemand large significant supercomputers from big cloud providers). The source & free issues are confused in this scenario, since once significant innovation has been demonstrated, the proprietary, closed products can copy the innovation ... but faced with providing sufficient added value to compete with something that is also free.

IBM was at times notorious for using FUD (as alternative to added value) as countermeasure. This could be seen in the traditional MVS & communication group when the human factors studies were showing cost/benefit of .25sec response for interactive computing (neither MVS system nor 3274/3278 hardware were even close to .25sec response ballpark)

also as previously noted, parts of IBM had enormously bloated infrastructures that distorted pricing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

earlier posts in preceeding thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#105 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#106 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#107 CMS Editors was TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 9 Jul 2014 10:54:30 -0700
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
back before OCO (object code only) enormous amounts of innovation and new stuff was done by customers and/or ibm support people onsite at customer accounts ... which then morphs into IBM products ... CICS, IMS, HASP, ASP, etc. The joke was that products were *developed* at customer sites and then turned over to development groups for maintenance and support. Only focusing on the next quarter basically orientates to static environment with little innovation or change.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software

In Aug1976, Tymshare started offering its CMS-based online computer conferencing to SHARE for free (as VMSHARE), archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
One of the entries mentioning OCO
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/read?fn=SES&ft=PROB&line=401

from above:

After all, OCO and SES are nothing but capricious actions of IBM that hinder our ability to provide good IBM-BASED computing for our users.

... snip ...

I had set up process with Tymshare to get regular copy of all the VMSHARE files ... for putting up on internal IBM systems and network, including the world-wide sales&marketing online HONE system. One of the big initial hurdles was getting around legal worried about customer information contaminating IBM employees.

old email mentioning vmshare
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
posts mentioning HONE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
posts mentioning internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late 85 or early 86)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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You can make your workplace 'happy'

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: You can make your workplace 'happy'
Date: 10 July 2014
Blog: IBM Wild Ducks
You can make your workplace 'happy'
http://khalidraza9.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/you-can-make-a-happy-workplace/

Psychologists Have Uncovered a Troubling Feature of People Who Seem Nice All the Time
http://mic.com/articles/92479/psychologists-have-uncovered-a-troubling-feature-of-people-who-seem-too-nice

another word would be sycophants ... from "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World" Ferguson & Morris on failure of Future System:

... and perhaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in the shadow of defeat

... and:
But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to kill, although its wrongheadedness was obvious from the very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.

... snip ...

some past posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

(previously posted in this group) Boyd put it a slightly different way

"There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To be or to do, that is the question." Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997

From the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 September 1999


... snip ...

I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM, the first time, I attempted to get Boyd's briefings done through the employee education department. They initially agreed, but as I provided them more information about Patterns of Conflict (later "Organic Design for Command & Control" was also added), they changed their mind. They said that IBM spends a lot of money educating managers on the handling of employees and they thought exposing general employees to Boyd would be counter-productive (i.e. somewhat viewed management/employee relations as competitive). They suggested that I restrict attendance to Boyd's briefings to only senior members of competitive analysis departments.

He had been known as "40-second Boyd" when he was instructor at Nellis for open challenge to every fighter pilot in the world, he would give them the advantage on his tail and reverse it within 40-seconds; he never lost doing it in under 20secs (he made the bet for 40sec in case there was somebody in the world almost as good as he was). Later he was head of the "fighter mafia" responsible for the F16, F18, A10 and redesign of the F15 and the Air Force brass hated him for it, trying to turn the USAF into a bomber-only organization. By the time of his passing, the USAF had disowned him and it was the Marines that were at Arlington. Circa 1990, the commandant of the Corp had leveraged Boyd for Marine Corps make-over ... and we still have annual conference at the Marine Corps Univ (frequent references that nearly the only people that make it in large organization are the ones that choose the career path of "distinction").

another recent study

The Top 10 Jobs That Attract Psychopaths
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/

In Aug1976, Tymshare started offering its CMS-based online computer conferencing to (IBM user group) SHARE for free (as VMSHARE), archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/
One of the entries mentioning OCO
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/read?fn=SES&ft=PROB&line=401

After all, OCO and SES are nothing but capricious actions of IBM that hinder our ability to provide good IBM-BASED computing for our users.

... snip ...

I had set up process with Tymshare to get regular copy of all the VMSHARE files ... for putting up on internal IBM systems and network, including the world-wide sales&marketing online HONE system. One of the big initial hurdles was getting around legal worried about customer information contaminating IBM employees.

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the IBM internal network in the late 70s and early 80s. Folklore is that when the executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. Part of that activity acquired the label "Tandem Memos" ... from IBMJARGON:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticised the way products were are developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

When Jim Gray left IBM for Tandem, he palmed a bunch of stuff on me. Afterwards, I would periodically go by and visit Jim and the above started out as distribution of Tandem visit trip report. There use to be a joke that I worked 4-shift week, 1st shift in bldg. 28, 2nd shift playing disk engineer across the street in bldgs. 14&15, 3rd shift down in STL (now silicon valley lab), and 4th shift (weekends) up the valley at the consolidated US HONE datacenter (trivia: when Facebook first moved to the valley it was into a new bldg built next door to the former US HONE datacenter).

as an aside ... there were comments that if any other computer company had a failure the magnitude of IBM's "Future System", they wouldn't have survived. I continued to work on 360/370 stuff during the period and would periodically ridicule the "Future System" stuff ... which possibly wasn't the best career enhancing activity.

During the FS period, 370 efforts were being suspended &/or killed off (FS was going to completely replace 370). The lack of 370 products during the FS period is then credited with giving the clone processors a market foothold. The rise of clone processors then is major motivation in the transition to OCO (object code only) trying to protect IBM's position. However, the availability of source for IBM's customers had been a major source of innovation.

past posts mentioning HONE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
past posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
posts & WEB URLs referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

other recent IBM "wild duck" posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#52 IBM Wild Ducks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#93 Maximizing shareholder value: The Goal that changed corporate America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#97 Where does the term Wild Duck come from?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#98 How to groom a leader?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#105 Happy 50th Birthday to the IBM Cambridge Scientific Center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#52 First 2014 Golden Goose Award to physicist Larry Smarr
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#53 Not Wild Ducks but Wild Geese - The history behind the story
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#54 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#8 Microsoft culture must change, chairman says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#65 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#79 EBFAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#80 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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With hindsight, what would you have done?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: With hindsight, what would you have done?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:43:48 -0400
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:
The PDP8 series certainly set the trend for PPISC computers (like RISC, but piss-poor :-) ) but what, with hindsight would you do today if producing a small instruction set computer?

Although I am opposed to it as a realistic method of implementing large-scale systems, perhaps an instruction set based upon the Forth primitives would be the way to go?

ISTR that there have been some FPGA version of the same.


I've periodically commented that John
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cocke
was doing RISC in the early/mid-70s

1) reaction to the enormous complexity of the Future System effort ... that eventually implodes w/o even being announced (some comments at the time that if any other company had such a monumental failure, they wouldn't have survived) ... to go to the opposite extreme
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

2) be able to implement in single chip.

John passed away
https://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/press/us/en/pressrelease/22052.wss

from above:
John's concept of the RISC resulted from his detailed study of the trade-offs between high performance machine organization and compiler optimization technology. He recognized that an appropriately defined set of machine instructions, program controls, and programs produced by a compiler -- carefully designed to exploit the instruction set -- could realize a very high performance processor with relatively few circuits. Critical to the success of RISC was the concept of an optimizing compiler able to use the reduced instruction set very efficiently and maximize performance of the machine. John's RISC concept was contrary to the established direction of the functionally more complex instruction sets and machines. RISC was a fundamentally new concept in system design.

... snip ...

IBM ACS & John
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_cocke.html

from above:
The idea for the ACS design started with John Cocke's vision of a scientific supercomputer. He had previously worked on the IBM Stretch and along with Harwood Kolsky was instrumental in developing a simulator to explore design options. Cocke then worked with Fred Brooks and Gerrit Blaauw (also Stretch veterans) and Gene Amdahl on the 8106 processor (which was based on Blaauw's 70AB design dating from work on the 7070 processor) and the 8112 attached floating-point unit. (The 8000 series was cancelled on the recommendation of Bob Evans because of his concern over product proliferation; the attempt at compatibility across the 8000 product line later played a role in the SPREAD report calling for a compatible NPL [New Product Line], which was later renamed System/360 [for "360 degrees of data processing"]).

... snip ...

also
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/risc/

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

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With hindsight, what would you have done?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: With hindsight, what would you have done?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:32:47 -0400
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:
Has the single chip got sufficient gates for 16 bit wide addition, compare, multiplication, division, exclusive oring and shifting?

After those the programmers get interested in jumps and data structure access. Simple access to characters would be nice. System programmers need interrupts and real time clocks to control peripherals.

These days code goes into prom so things like calls that modify the code blocks cause endless trouble.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#8 With hindsight, what would you have done?

they were doing some simulation stuff with 68k earlier ... but 1981, ROMP, 45,000 transisters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROMP

followon was RIOS ... but was 6chips
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER1
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_POWER_microprocessors

note there were other 801 projects using Iliad chips ... in parallel with ROMP. Iliad use included being native microprocessor for entry & mid-range 370s ... which never shipped. Los Gatos VLSI lab was doing "Blue Iliad" ... first 32bit 801 ... large and really hot (was expected to run around thirty native mips (modulo cache misses). old posts with various old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#7 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#38 To RISC or not to RISC

this mentionins Blue Iliad going to fab Feb1982 for 1st pass parts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email810422

the original as/400 (s/36&s/38 replacement) was also suppose to be iliad risc chip ... but switched to cisc chip. later in the 90s ... as/400 finally did switch to 801/risc ... now called "system i"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_i

posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, rios, iliad, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

other past posts mentioning blue iliad:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#25 Merced & compilers (was Re: Effect of speed ... )
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#66 System/1 ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#16 Computer of the century
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#60 "all-out" vs less aggressive designs (was: Re: 36 to 32 bit transition)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#39 "Soul of a New Machine" Computer?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#55 Multics hardware (was Re: "Soul of a New Machine" Computer?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#27 End of Moore's law and how it can influence job market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#3 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#69 unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#3 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#28 [Meta] Marketplace argument
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#21 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#30 First single chip 32-bit microprocessor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#37 History: How did Forth get its stacks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#31 To RISC or not to RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#17 MIPS and RISC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#53 Drums: Memory or Peripheral?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#56 performance of hardware dynamic scheduling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#63 What happened to computer architecture (and comp.arch?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#20 Processes' memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#29 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#54 Processes' memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#7 "Unhackable" Infineon Chip Physically Cracked - PCWorld
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#3 "Unhackable" Infineon Chip Physically Cracked - PCWorld
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#78 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#82 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#83 Notes on two presentations by Gordon Bell ca. 1998
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#42 IBM zEnterprise Announced
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#82 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#16 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#24 Supervisory Processors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#82 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#0 By Any Other Name
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#8 DEC Demise (was IBM commitment to academia)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#39 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?

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Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Date: 12 July 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Maybe, instead of focusing on headline grabbing big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://compliancex.com/maybe-instead-of-focusing-on-headline-grabbing-big-fines-law-enforcement-should-seek-long-prison-terms-for-the-responsible-executives/

Deferred prosecution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_prosecution

sometimes a too big to fail would repeatedly escape with DPA for repeating the same offenses.

This goes into some detail with explanation that the FEDs appear to be trying to avoid another Arthur Anderson (excuse of failing to obtain conviction just obfuscation and misdirection) ... creating the too big to prosecute and too big to jail
http://www.antitrustinstitute.org/sites/default/files/WorkingPaper14-04.pdf

This has financial mess last decade, 70 times larger than S&L crisis where there was more than 1000 criminal conviction ... implication that there should have been 70,000 criminal convictions this time
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/30000-criminal-referrals-led-1000-felony-convictions-major-fraud-cases-sl-crisis-even-single-prosecution-today-even-though-2008-crisis-70-times-bigger.html

Related to Arthur Anderson reference, rhetoric in congress on passing Sarbanes-Oxley was that everybody (executives, auditors, board) signing a public company financial filing with incorrect numbers is guaranteed to do jail time. However it requires SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO doesn't think SEC is doing anything, last decade GAO was doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing increases after SOX passes (and nobody doing jail time). SOX enormously reduced effort required to obtain criminal conviction.

This includes account of whisteblower at too-big-to-fail last decade notifying people that would be signing financial filing with incorrect numbers ... and the testimony being sealed until after the statute of limitation expires
http://truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/24427-follow-the-money-how-finance-keeps-the-whip-hand

Jan2009 I was asked to HTML'ize (turn into web pages) the 1930s Senate Pecora hearings (that resulted in several criminal convictions from the crash of '29; had been scanned fall2008 at Boston Public Library) with enormous number of internal cross-links and lots of URLs between what happened this time and what happened then (comments that there was some expectations that the new congress would have appetite to do something). I worked on it for sometime and then got a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet cash completely burying capital hill).

There are periodic references in local Washington press about it all being Kabuki Theater ... that what you see has nothing at all with what is really go on (and frequently being used as distraction)

from reference that last decade was 70 times larger than S&L mess:
In the Savings and Loan debacle, our agency that regulated Savings and Loans - the OTS - made over 30,000 criminal referrals. Produced over 1,000 felony convictions just in cases designated as major.

... and

• Fast forward to the current time. The same agency - Office of Thrift Supervision - which was supposed to regulate many of the largest makers of liar's loans in the country has made ... zero criminal referrals.
• The Office of Comptroller of the Currency - which is supposed to regulate the largest national banks has made zero criminal referrals.
• The Fed appears to have made zero criminal referrals.
• The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is smart enough to refuse to answer the question.


... snip ...

and that doesn't even get into what SEC could do under SOX and fraudulent financial filings. Note also that in the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC hands were finally forced when Madoff turned himself in).

and some reference from FDIC whistleblower:
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140627055009-20494629-reaching-for-yield-in-all-the-wrong-places-why-banks-took-a-crooked-path
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140623054912-20494629-too-large-to-supervise-by-any-of-the-u-s-regulatory-agencies
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140615082923-20494629-why-the-fdic-chairman-knew-more-than-she-let-on

as an aside, one of the above references Basel II ... some trivia ... the original Basel II draft included a new qualitative section and we were asked into NYFED to discuss how it could be implemented ... however during the review process, nearly everything was dropped (mostly on behalf of large US institutions)

posts mentioning too big to fail, too big to prosecute and too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning Enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
posts mentioning Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
posts mentioning Sarbanes Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
posts mentioning fraudulent financial filings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fianncial.reporting.fraud
posts mentioning Pecora hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
posts mentioning whistleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
posts mentioning Kabuki Theater
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:55:18 -0400
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
The Yale IUP and S/1 were only necessary to let it connect with 3270 software. TSO itself could communicate with an ASCII s/s terminal dialing in to, e.g., a 270x, 3705.

some old posts referencing "Yale IUP"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#36 Difference between Unix and Linux?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#1 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#2 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?

upthread reference to PVM being enhanced in late 70s to simulate 3270 with ascii topaz/3101 glass teletype running in "block mode"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#71 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

references this post with couple old emails from late 1979 and early 1980
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#0 Why so little parallelism

and then PVM 3270 simulation interface got significantly more sophisticated with support for "PCTERM" running in IBM/PC. other recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#49 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service

and more old email refs in this post upthread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#77 The Tragedy of Rapid Evoluation?

there is some amount of "Yale IUP" discussion in the vmshare archives (cms-based online computer conferencing tymshare made available to SHARE starting in Aug1976)
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/vmshare

some of the discussions with "Yale IUP" reference:


NOTE YALEPTF2   Fixes for Yale 3270 IUP Version 2.2 (=Host-Load version 1.1)
NOTE YALEPTFS   Problems and fixes to the December 1, 1983 PID version of IBM Series/1 Yale
NOTE SET7171    SET7171 TITLE 'HOST SETUP FUNCTIONS FOR THE IBM 7171' 00001000
PROB 7171DTR    Does the failure of the 7171 to drop DTR affect your site?
PROB 7171       7171 problems
PROB 4994       4994 versus 'Real' Series/1
PROB YALE3277   Problems with use of Series/1 running Yale IUP simulating 3277s
PROB LEEDATA    We are having a couple of problems with Lee Data terminals.
PROB DROP_DTR   Does anyone know how to get the 7171 to drop DTR after logoff ???
PROB APLEE      Problems installing the APL Extended Editor IUP 5796-PLY
MEMO 7171       Discussion of the IBM 7171 ASCII Terminal Front End
MEMO 4994ASCI   INFO ON 4994 ASCII DEVICE CONTROL UNIT(HOST LOADED YALE)
MEMO YIUPUSER   List of Yale IUP / Series1 Users:

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Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
Date: 13 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#49 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb

more cyber dumb

Chinese Hackers Stole Boeing, Lockheed Military Plane Secrets: Feds
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/chinese-hackers-stole-boeing-lockheed-military-plane-secrets-feds-n153951
Chinese businessman charged with hacking Boeing, Lockheed Martin
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/chinese-businessman-charged-with-hacking-boeing-and-lockheed/
Chinese man accused of hacking into US computers
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-chinese-accused-hacking.html
U.S. Accuses Chinese Executive of Hacking to Mine Military Data
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-accuses-chinese-executive-of-hacking-to-find-military-data-1405105264?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
U.S. Accuses Chinese Executive of Hacking to Mine Military Data
http://www.fedcyber.com/2014/07/12/u-s-accuses-chinese-executive-of-hacking-to-mine-military-data/
Chinese Hackers Infiltrate Firms Using Malware-Laden Handheld Scanners
http://yro-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/07/12/0416202/chinese-hackers-infiltrate-firms-using-malware-laden-handheld-scanners
Chinese Hackers Infiltrate Firms Using Malware-Laden Handheld Scanners
http://slashdot.org/submission/3690447/chinese-hackers-infiltrate-firms-using-malware-laden-handheld-scanners

a little To Be or To Do:

Cyber Labor Shortage Not What it Seems, Experts Say
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2014/August/Pages/CyberLaborShortageNotWhatitSeemsExpertsSay.aspx

from above:
Businesses and government agencies are engaged in a dogfight over cyber security talent, or so the conventional thinking goes. The shortage of qualified cyber security personnel continues to cause hand-wringing inside the beltway.

That is mostly still true, but the situation is more nuanced, said Alan Paller, co-founder of the CyberAces nonprofit, who also chaired a Department of Homeland Security task force on cyber job vacancies.

"There is no shortage of people who can talk and write about cyber security," he said in an interview. "The shortage is in the people who actually have the hands-on skills to quickly find the infections, get rid of them and do good incident handling. Those skills are very rare."

U.S. universities are cranking out plenty of graduates with cyber security related degrees, but they have mostly studied policy, he said. Many of those graduates aren't getting good jobs. Faculty members don't have real-world skills, so they are not teaching how to perform complicated tasks such as application penetration testing, advanced memory forensics or wireless hacker exploit development.


... snip ...

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IBM & Boyd

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: IBM & Boyd
Date: 13 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
I was in middle of a move from the cambridge scientific center to san jose research and had just applied for a mortgage at home savings ... at the time the approval process took 4-6 weeks. That same week the IBM SE on the account (who wrote quite a bit of their application code and done transaction implementation for their new ATM machines on VM370/CMS running on 370/158 would outperform ACP/TPF on 370/168 ) had me down to their hdqtrs in LA for meetings with the CIO and some of the other people. The SE happened to mention that I was in the process of getting a loan with them. The CIO apologized for not being able to give me the employee discount on the mortgage rate; however the approval was waiting for me when I got back to San Jose.
http://adamarenson.com/homesavingsbankart/thelist/

as an aside, a large part of my career was doing stuff in spite of IBM ... and I was constantly being told that I had no career with the company because I was just interested in getting things done. Not long later I met John Boyd and would sponsor his briefings at IBM:
"There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To be or to do, that is the question." Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997

From the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 September 1999


... snip ...

In Boyd's briefings he would reference that US military had become increasingly rigid, top-down, command&control ... and that it was starting to contaminate US corporate culture as former military officers were starting to climb corporate ladder. He had gone from "40 sec Boyd" (as instructor at Nellis where he had outstanding challenge to all fighter pilots in the world that he would give them advantage on his tail and he would reverse it in 40secs ... he managed to always do it in 20secs, but he allowed a little extra time in case there was somebody in the world almost as good as he was), to the head of the fighter mafia (responsible for f16, f18, a10 and redesign of the f15; when he was doing the F16, the F15 forces attempted to side-track him with bogus fraud charges that would have put in leavenworth for the rest of his life), to the head of the military reform movement (in the 80s there were still members of congress that would provide cover for his efforts against the enormous corruption in the pentagon ... but in the 90s, congress had been pretty well subverted also). Remember Eisenhower in his goodby speech warned about the military-industrial complex (folklore was that it was originally going to be military-industrial-congressional complex, but he shortened it at the last minute).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

By the time of his passing, the air force had pretty much disowned him, it was the marines at arlington, and all his effects went to quantico (circa 1990, the commandant had leveraged Boyd for marines make-over).

The 1st time I sponsored Boyd's briefing at IBM (it was just Patterns of Conflict), I tried to do it through IBM employee education. Initially they agreed, but as I provided them more information, they changed their mind saying that IBM puts in great deal of effort into managers managing employees and it wouldn't be in the best interest of IBM to expose general employees to Boyd (suggesting that attendance be limited to senior members of competitive analysis depts). Patterns of Conflict reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterns_of_Conflict

the briefing has over 200 sources at the end. Most of the references are in his library at Quantico and are heavily worn and underlined.

possibly as punishment for vocal opposition ... he was given a stint in command of "spook base" ... he would say that the datacenter was the largest airconditioned bldg in that part of the world ... largely IBM computers (bio says it was $2.5B windfall for IBM, something like $17+B today) ... ref gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

about the same time I was undergraduate ... but had been brought into boeing to help form boeing computer services ... sort of akin to early cloud like operation ... consolidate all of boeing dataprocessing into a separate business unit to better monetize the investment ... including being able to offer services to non-Boeing entities (Boeing Renton datacenter claimed to be nearly $300M in IBM computers, about 1/10th spook base). I'm a full-time Boeing employee at the time I graduate and have to choose between staying with Boeing or going to the IBM cambridge science center.

oh, from Patterns of Conflict wiki reference (something that is periodically repeated in a number of references):
Based on Patterns and the work that followed, Boyd has been called "America's greatest military theorist".

Hugh Laurie's (TVs house) wrote noval ("Gun Seller") on MICC & MICC corruption (also referencing Boyd and his OODA-loop):
The day Alexander Woolf decided to take on the military-industrial complex was the day everything changed. For him, for his family, for his business. Things changed quickly, and they changed for good. Roused from its slumber, the military-industrial complex lifted a great, lazy paw, and swatted him away, as if he were no more than a human being. They cancelled his existing contracts and withdrew possible future ones. They bankrupted his suppliers, disrupted his labour force, and investigated him for tax evasion. They bought his company's stock in a few months and sold it in a few hours, and when that didn't do the trick, they accused him of trading in narcotics. They even had him thrown out of the St Regis, for not replacing a fairway divot.

... snip ...

and an unrelated "To Be or To Do" from Chet
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/2014/07/16/zen-pundit-on-american-spartan/

posts & URL references mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Date: 13 July 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

In the Oct2008 congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the rating agencies played in the financial mess, they had lots of testimony that both the sellers and rating agencies knew the securitized loans weren't worth "triple-A" ... but the rating agencies were specifically being paid for the "triple-A" ratings. Securitized mortigages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages, but there wasn't much of a market (the "triple-A" ratings opened the market to institutions and retirement funds that are restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments). During the hearings one of the TV news people commented that the rating agencies would be able to blackmail the gov. and avoid federal prosecution.

In the late 90s we were asked to work on improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages (as countermeasure to the fraudulent mortgages from the S&L crisis). However, when loan originators learned that the could pay for "triple-A" ratings, they no longer needed supporting documents ("triple-A" rating trumps documents) and they could start doing no-documentation (no-down, liar) loans (no documents, no longer an integrity issue)

About the same time, we had also been brought in to help wordsmith the Cal. state electronic signature act. Then in the early part of the century we were asked to participate in standards meetings at the mortgage bankers association (when they had the bldg. across the park from the IMF and world bank) looking what would be required for electronic mortgage documents. However, nothing much seemed to happen, MERS just went ahead anyway. recent posts mentioning MERS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#44 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#28 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#70 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#46 Wells Fargo made up on-demand foreclosure papers plan: court filing charges
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#111 Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry

However, from the law of unintended consequences, the lack of documents

1) when there was still some fiction that TARP funds would be used for purchase of (off-book) toxic assets, there was articles about the difficulty in valuing those assets (in large part because of the lack of supporting documents)

2) lack of documents also motivates the robo-signing fraudulent documents for foreclosures.

there is also a lot of misdirection regarding many large institutional retirement funds buying those triple-A rated toxic assets. As an aside, over $27T were done during the financial mess (claims were that during the mess, it was major factor in wallstreet increasing by factor of three times as percent of GDP)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

there was only $700B appropriated for TARP ... but the end of 2008 just the four largest too big to fail were still carrying $5.2T "off-book"
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

Earlier in 2008, several tens of billions of toxic assets had gone for 22cents on the dollar. If 1) the toxic assets were brought back on book and "mark to market", the institutions would be declared insolvent and liquidated, 2) if TARP purchased the toxic assets at the going price, the institutions would be declared insolvent and liquidated; however TARP would have required $1.2T to clear the $5.2T just for the four largest too big to fail (but would have also left them insolvent; that was major motivation for it being handled behind the scenes by federal reserve, which fought in court for a year to try and prevent release of what it was doing).

Citigroup's $7 Billion Fraud Deal: The Clique's Still Clicking in DC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/citigroups-7-billion-frau_b_5576495.html

as aside, folklore from the period was that the president was originally going to veto GLBA ... having originally passed pretty much along party lines ... however, they went back and added several amendments and it finally passes with veto-proof Senate 90-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act

posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentionint too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Date: 14 July 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

... also note that Rubin had previously come from running Goldman and the Treasury Secretary last decade (during the economic mess), had also come from Goldman (the vast number of Goldman alumni giving rise to comments about treasury was Goldman's branch office in washington) ... and Gramm is #2 on Time's list of those responsible for the economic mess ... for both repeal of glass-steagall and blocking regulation of (gambling) CDS:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

and when head of CFTC proposes regulating CDS, she is replaced with Gramm's wife
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html

from above:
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

... and
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/

from above:
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this, the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees,

... snip ...

and when AIG was negotiating to pay off CDS bets at 50-60 cents on the dollar, the treasury secretary (#6 on times list of those responsible) steps in and tells them that that they can't pay off at less than 100 cents on the dollar, that they have to accept TARP funds (to pay off the CDS bets) and sign a document giving up any rights to sue those that it is paying off (and major beneficiary was institution that the treasury secretary had previously run). Then there is head of SEC last decade, #4 on times list of those responsible.

Citigroup Pays Just $7 Billion For Causing Financial Crisis
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/14/citigroup-pays-just-7-billion-for-causing-financial-crisis/
Citigroup and U.S. Reach $7 Billion Mortgage Settlement
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/citigroup-and-u-s-reach-7-billion-mortgage-settlement/?smid=tw-share
Citi Masks Crashing Mortgage, Trading Revenues With $3.8 Billion Settlement Charge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-14/citi-masks-crashing-mortgage-trading-revenues-38-billion-settlement-charge

posts mentioning Pecora hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentionint too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning Enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

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R.I.P. PDP-10?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: R.I.P. PDP-10?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:40:44 -0400
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
AFAIK they wanted the LS to be wide enough to hold an address and didn't expect a low-end model to be able to attach the full 2^24 bytes allowed by the architecture. I'm not sure how they handled the DAT box for the 2040, given the LS width.

this has inverse table ... each real page had virtual page number identifier along with 4bit process (address space) identifier. each page entry would be interegated for the corresponding process-id and virtual page number.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

from above:
Virtual memory on the 360/40 was achieved by placing a 64 word associative array between the CPU address generation circuits and the memory addressing logic. The array was activated via mode switch logic in the PSW and was turned off whenever a hardware interrupt occurred.

The 64 words were designed to give us a relocate mechanism for each 4k bytes of our 256K bytes memory. Relocation was achieved by loading a user number in the search argument register of the associative array, turning on relocate mode and presenting a CPU address. The match with user number and address would result in a word selected in the associative array. The position of the word 0-64 would yield the high order 6 bits of a memory address. Because of a rather loose cycle time this was accomplished on the 360/40 with no degradation of the overall memory cycle. In addition to the translate function, the associative array was used to record the hardware use and changed statue and our software noted transient and locked conditions relative to a particular block of 4K bytes in the memory.

Since the array functioned a content addressable store when in supervisor state, searches to satisfy the LRU algorithm were quite fast.


... snip ...

note the 67 dat box handled 32bit (virtual) addresses to 24bit real memory address.

the 3033 had inverse hack ... 370 24bit instruction (virtual&real) addressing. the 370 page table entry was 16bits, 12bit (real) page number, 2 bits defined and 2 bits undefined. they co-opted the 2 undefined bits to prepend to the real page number for 14bit real page number (26bit addressing or 64mbytes).

recent cp40 refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#23 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#56 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#103 Microsoft publishes MS-DOS, Word for Windows source code
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#99 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#108 PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope

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R.I.P. PDP-10?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: R.I.P. PDP-10?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:03:10 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Since the array functioned a content addressable store when in supervisor state, searches to satisfy the LRU algorithm were quite fast.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#16 R.I.P. PDP-10?

True LRU has unfortunate side-effect that it degrades to FIFO under stress/pathelogical conditions.

There is separate issue with (clock) Global LRU versus Local LRU ... that I've written in the past about ... having done Global LRU as undergraduate in the 60s (when there was academic literature was about Local LRU) ... and then did a hack on (clock GlobaL) approximate LRU that degraded to essentially random (rather than FIFO) ... which tended to always have better performance than "True LRU" (true LRU ordering of all real pages).

past posts mentioning replacement algorithm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock

old posts about Jim Gray asking me to help co-worker at Tandem get his stanford PHD in global LRU ... "local LRU" forces were trying to prevent awarding the PHD:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#46

other recent posts mentioning above
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#14 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#97 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT

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Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Date: 15 July 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

DOJ Citigroup Settlement Lacks Disclosure Of Victims And Criminal Conduct
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/15/doj-citigroup-settlement-lacks-disclosure-of-victims-and-criminal-conduct/

from above:
But, according to The Litigation Daily, the details of that "wrongdoing" are nowhere to be found in the settlement documents, raising questions as to whether DOJ gave Citigroup a special deal regarding disclosure. Was part of this "historic penalty" an exemption from having to admit the crimes committed and the victims harmed?

... snip ...

What's Missing in Citigroup's $7 Billion RMBS Deal?
http://www.litigationdaily.com/id=1202663224458/Whats-Missing-in-Citigroups-7-Billion-RMBS-Deal

posts mentioning too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
Date: 16 July 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#18 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

Latest Citi "Let Bank Off Easy" Mortgage Settlement Shows Administration Disconnect
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/latest-citi-let-bank-easy-mortgage-settlement-shows-administration-disconnect.html

BlackRock, Pimco Sue Deutsche Bank, U.S. Bank Over Trustee Roles Lawsuits Focus on More Than 2,000 Mortgage Bonds
http://online.wsj.com/articles/blackrock-pimco-sue-deutsche-bank-u-s-bank-over-trustee-roles-1403124442
Black Rock and PIMCO Sue Banks for $250 Billion Did the Other Shoe Just Drop?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/16/did-the-other-shoe-just-drop/

BofA offers $13 billion to settle mortgage probe: WSJ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-bankofamerica-settlement-idUSKBN0FL1U620140716
Bank of America offering $13 billion to resolve probe
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838659
UPDATE 5-Litigation costs hit Bank of America's quarterly profit
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/bank-of-america-results-idUSL4N0PR3H020140716
Bank of America posts earnings of 19 cents a share vs. 29 cents estimate
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838220

and

EGREGIOUS FRAUDSTER: INTRODUCING BOB RUBIN'S CITICORP
http://www.economonitor.com/lrwray/2014/07/16/egregious-fraudster-introducing-bob-rubins-citicorp-2/

from above:
the best estimate of economists right now is that we lost $21 trillion-a trillion is a thousand billion-$21 trillion in lost productivity as a result of the Great Recession that is a direct result of this epidemic of these kinds of fraud. And we lost 10 million American jobs.

... snip ...

posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentionint too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
Date: 16 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/military-technology-war-gear/2014/07/14/id/582461/

Pentagon's big budget F-35 fighter 'can't turn, can't climb, can't run'
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/07/14/pentagons-big-budget-f-35-fighter-cant-turn-cant-climb-cant-run/

The U.S. Is No Longer The Leader In Military Tech
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-us-is-no-longer-leader-in-military.html
Why the World's Armies Don't Want U.S. Tech Anymore
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/14/why-the-world-s-armies-don-t-want-u-s-tech-anymore.html

A Boyd story about trying to sell F20/tigershark for export. For all candidate countries, the F16 forces got congress to pass "directed appropriations" foreign aid ... that could only be used to buy F16. The countries were then faced with buy F20 more appropriate for their needs (with their own money) or getting F16s for "free". It was pointed out as part of the subsidy for the military-industrial complex ... w/o actually showing up as part of DOD budget.

"National Insecurity" has somewhat similar story about getting UN votes for invasion of Iraq. Newly "free" eastern bloc countries were told if they voted for Iraq invasion, their membership in NATO would be backed and they would get foreign aid to buy NATO "compatible" equipment.

One of my issues is the "Cyber Dumb" thread ... which includes letting secrets/advantages leak ... along with cyber becoming increasingly dominant component of almost everything. That is separate from Spinney's theme of military-industrial complex using all sorts of strategies to maximize financial benefit. They can overlap.

Prophets of War: Lockheed Martin and the Making of the Military-Industrial Complex (William D. Hartung)
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-Complex-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/

pg180/loc3043-45:
For the Boeings and Lockheed Martins of the world, NATO expansion spelled one thing: new markets. New NATO entrants would be required to gradually discard their Soviet-era weapons and replace them with systems that were compatible with those of other NATO member states (meaning U.S. or European

pg196/loc3289-91:
In late 2003 Lockheed Martin succeeded in closing a deal with Poland for $3.8 billion worth of F-16s. The sale was accompanied by a subsidized loan that covered 100 percent of the cost of the jets, with a below-market interest rate and no payments required for the first eight years.

pg196/locc3294-96:
But the costs to the United States went beyond just a subsidized loan. The deal included roughly $3 billion in promised "offsets"--various ways of steering business to Poland to counterbalance the vast sums it was spending on the F-16. The most obvious examples included an agreement to produce the engines for the aircraft in Poland.

pg197/loc3305-7:
In some respects, Jackson's work on behalf of NATO expansion was just a tune-up for the campaign he helped to run in support of the 2003 Bush administration intervention in Iraq.

pg197/loc3308-14:
As a co-founder of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a neoconservative network augmented by the membership of a few Democrats like Peter Galbraith and former Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey, Jackson worked directly with the Bush administration in the marketing of the war. In fact, according to Jackson himself, the White House asked him to "do for Iraq what you did for NATO."17 Jackson even found a way to link the two efforts. One of his most important contributions was drafting a letter that was signed by the presidents of the "Vilnius Ten"--a bloc of major central and eastern European nations that Jackson and others were pressing to have admitted en masse to NATO in its next round of expansion. The letter essentially endorsed an invasion of Iraq to deal with Saddam Hussein's alleged weapons of mass destruction.

pg198/loc3319-20:
Jackson reportedly told officials from some of the countries that supporting the Iraq war would increase their chances of being included in NATO in the next round of expansion.

... snip ...

posts & URLs referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

military industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
team b
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b

past posts mentioning prophets of war:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#54 NBC's website hacked with malware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#20 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#21 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#32 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#43 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#50 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#51 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#62 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#67 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#5 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#14 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#74 What Makes collecting sales taxes Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#92 A Matter of Mindset: Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#41 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#80 The REAL Reason U.S. Targets Whistleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#31 An insider's story of the global attack on climate science
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars

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IBM to sell Apples

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: IBM to sell Apples
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 16 Jul 2014 18:55:51 -0700
0000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Do they plan to port iOS to zSeries?

Alas, this is consigning OS X to the back burner.


ibm jointly funded mit for project athena with dec for $25M each
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Athena

ibm then funded cmu for $50m, afs, encina, camelot, mach, etc
http://www.zois.co.uk/tpm/encina.html

then ibm provides seed money for transarc and then buys transarc outright (for unix "cics")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transarc

Jobs uses MACH for Next
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28kernel%29

and then brings it back to apple for iOS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28operating_system%29

Apple, IBM, and Motorola got together for AIM/Somerset to do one chip power (801/risc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance

when IBM wasn't keeping up "power" low-power consumer chips, apple moved from power to i86
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_transition_to_Intel_processors

ibm recently trying to breath new life into power
http://openpowerfoundation.org/

then there is PureSystems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PureSystems

past posts mentioning 801, risc, iliad, romp, rios, power, power/pc, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/
"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:

AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

recent posts ref Ginni betting farm on PureSystem (& cloud)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#27 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#46 Demonstrating Moore's law

earlier posts from the Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time

references to vm370 cluster/ssi from late 70s and power scale from early 90s.

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 08:36:32 -0400
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
If we're going back that far, we need to account for the deaths that happened due to the U.S. invasions of Grenada and Panama. And let us not forget the U.S. attack on Iraq and the tens or hundreds of thousand deaths that aggression caused (and is still causing).

we've recently had slightly related discussion over in Facebook Boyd group ... various spins all part of perpetual war conspiracy by the military-industrial complex to keep their revenue flowing (they had to find something else to substitute with the end of the "cold war")
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear

... somewhat similar story about getting UN votes for invasion of Iraq. Newly "free" eastern bloc countries were told if they voted for Iraq invasion, their membership in NATO would be backed and they would get foreign aid to buy NATO "compatible" equipment.

perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war
from a Boyd acolyte
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html

and then from long running "Cyber Dumb" thread:

Cyber Labor Shortage Not What it Seems, Experts Say
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2014/August/Pages/CyberLaborShortageNotWhatitSeemsExpertsSay.aspx

from above:
Businesses and government agencies are engaged in a dogfight over cyber security talent, or so the conventional thinking goes. The shortage of qualified cyber security personnel continues to cause hand-wringing inside the beltway.

That is mostly still true, but the situation is more nuanced, said Alan Paller, co-founder of the CyberAces nonprofit, who also chaired a Department of Homeland Security task force on cyber job vacancies.

"There is no shortage of people who can talk and write about cyber security," he said in an interview. "The shortage is in the people who actually have the hands-on skills to quickly find the infections, get rid of them and do good incident handling. Those skills are very rare."

U.S. universities are cranking out plenty of graduates with cyber security related degrees, but they have mostly studied policy, he said. Many of those graduates aren't getting good jobs. Faculty members don't have real-world skills, so they are not teaching how to perform complicated tasks such as application penetration testing, advanced memory forensics or wireless hacker exploit development.


... snip ...

which is little topic drift on the massive amount of money that the beltway bandits have sucked out of the infrastructure from series of failing/canceled dataprocessing projects (frequently several billion at a time) ... aka the spreading Success of Failure culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

and from another Boyd acolyte ... reference to DOD massive bloated bureaucracy not able ... with a review of something at another blog:
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/2014/07/16/zen-pundit-on-american-spartan/

Still, Mark's point is spot on -- why do we always have to be the redcoats and let the other guys hide behind rocks and trees? Why do we keep doing dumb things? We don't always, and we haven't always, but somehow, we've developed a knack for discarding winning tactics.

... snip ...

which overlaps both perpetual war (actually winning means that its over) and Success Of Failure:

At least Boyd got to retire as a colonel.

... snip ...

Boyd past posts and URL refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 08:59:33 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

and some followup on this Success of Failure article (again related to "Cyber Dumb")
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

ThinThread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread
ThinThread
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/12/19/whistleblowers-vindicated-as-presidential-review-group-recommends-alternative-to-nsa-vacuuming-data/
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
https://news.yahoo.com/three-former-employees-became-nsa-critics-163808602.html
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
http://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe
Trailblazer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project
now Turbulence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbulence_%28NSA%29

posts mentioning Success of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

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Firefox is BLOATWARE!

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Firefox is BLOATWARE!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:36:44 -0400
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) writes:
So what is the "Closing Multiple Tabs" saga?

i regularly do 300-400 open tabs ... things start to slow down if I try and do 2000.

when i started doing multiple tabs a decade ago ... things would slow down at 100 or so ... but mozilla has gotten better on storage use ... and my machines have gotten bigger/faster. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#48 Mozilla v Firefox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#50 Mozilla v Firefox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#8 big endian vs. little endian, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#15 1.8b2 / 1.7.11 tab performance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#46 seamonkey default browser on fedora/kde?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#51 Intel abandons USEnet news
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#30 tab browsing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#35 Tap and faucet and spellcheckers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#24 Javascript disabled in Firefox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#71 Mainframe programming vs the Web
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#85 Which of the latest browsers do you prefer and why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#72 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#61 Agents
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#88 Parallel programming may not be so daunting

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 10:31:51 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

other news on things being used

GCHQ's "Chinese menu" of tools spreads disinformation across Internet
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/ghcqs-chinese-menu-of-tools-spread-disinformation-across-internet/
Schneier on Security: GCHQ Catalog of Exploit Tools
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/gchq_catalog_of.html
GCHQ has tools to manipulate online information, leaked documents show
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/14/gchq-tools-manipulate-online-information-leak
What GCHQ's geeky and misogynistic code names tell us about its coders
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2014/jul/16/what-gchq-geeky-misogynistic-code-names-tell-us
Snowden files: Manipulating polls, netting from LinkedIn, YouTube in GCHQ bag of tricks
http://rt.com/news/172724-gchq-spying-internet-tools/
GCHQ's dark arts: Leaked documents reveal online manipulation, Facebook, YouTube snooping
http://www.zdnet.com/gchqs-dark-arts-leaked-leaked-documents-reveal-online-manipulation-facebook-and-youtube-snooping-7000031598/

and little more topic drift ... I hadn't posted anything at all to linkedin for day or two ... and then minutes after I posted this to linkedin IBMers group this morning:

DRUCKENMILLER: IBM Is The 'Poster Child' For What's Wrong With Corporate Behavior Today
http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-druckenmiller-on-ibm-2014-7

... Linkedin says that all my posts to linkedin are being temporarily moderated because recent contributions were marked as spam or flagged for not being relevant

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:04:03 -0400
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
I don't remember the last time I, personally, paid a fee on an ATM transaction, however, that has no bearing on Barb's statement. It's not difficult to get cash. Certainly it's far easier now than it was in the 60's or even the early 70's, when you had to go to your own bank between 10 and 3 to withdraw monies.

That's leaving aside completely the fact that one can get cash at any supermarket with an ATM card and pay a 10 cent POS fee.

The above applies, of coures, the to USA. I can't speak for the rest of the world.


retail operations have claimed that they have 7% "shrinkage" on cash ... between light fingered employees and fees that banks charge commercial operations, etc. both banks & merchants tend to promote customers getting cash at retail POS ... banks charge merchants a percentage ... but is the percentage banks charge merchants on debit transaction less than the percentage that banks charge on handling cash from commercial entity?

past posts mentioning shrinkage.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#14 AMD to leave x86 behind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#72 Free Checking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#58 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#33 Royal Pardon For Turing

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:19:24 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
"The War on Terror" is like "The War on Poverty" - i.e. mostly rhetoric with little or no content, used to justify a whole raft of unrelated things.

"war on terror" and "war on drugs" has come to have some overlap. The original references I saw too big to prosecute and too big to jail were articles about too big to fail repeatedly caught laundering money for drug cartels and terrorists ... and just getting their hands slapped (also law of unintended consequences, too big to fail laundering money enables bad guys getting the resources to significantly increase their violence, including uptic in gang activity in the US).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

other articles are that "war on drugs" has enormously increased incarcination in the US ... driving it to the highest rate in the US ... and spawning the commercial prison operations ... and prison-industrial complex (overlap with military-industrial complex) ... but not for too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#9 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#10 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#25 Royal Pardon For Turing

reference that S&L mess had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1,000 criminal convictions ... and economic mess last decade was 70 times larger than S&L mess and no criminal referrals and no criminal convictions.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/30000-criminal-referrals-led-1000-felony-convictions-major-fraud-cases-sl-crisis-even-single-prosecution-today-even-though-2008-crisis-70-times-bigger.html

recent posts on fed. gov. doing everything possible to avoid criminal prosecution of too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#18 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#19 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:30:48 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#27 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

this may explain predisposition ... but doesn't explain the "cyber dumb" & Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

Blame WWI, not Bin Laden, for NSA's post-9/11 intel suck; War, peace and paranoia in modern US
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/13/surveillance_state_ww1_roots/

other on 9/11 and Iraq:

A List of People Who Supported the War in Iraq
http://roguenationblog.com/2014/06/12/a-partial-list-of-people-who-shouldnt-be-talking-about-iraq/
9/11 Commissioner and Co-Chair of Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 Say in Sworn Declarations that Saudi Government Linked to 9/11 Attacks
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/03/911-commissioner-and-co-chair-of-congressional-inquiry-into-911-say-in-sworn-declarations-that-saudi-government-linked-to-911-attacks.html
FBI Report Implicates Saudi Government in 9/11
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/fbi-report-implicates-saudis-in-911.html
Secret 9/11 Documents: "Implausible" that the 9/11 Hijackers Acted Without Government Backing
http://www.infowars.com/secret-911-documents-implausible-that-the-911-hijackers-acted-without-government-backing/
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey: It Might Take "A Permanent 9/11 Commission" to End the Remaining Mysteries of September 11
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/03/911-commissioner-bob-kerrey-it-might-take-a-permanent-911-commission-to-end-the-remaining-mysteries-of-september-11.html

recent posts reference 9/11 commission/investigation/report
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#11 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#13 Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#42 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#99 Reducing Army Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#103 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#11 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#12 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#14 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#69 Littoral Warfare Ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#86 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#89 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:49:17 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#27 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

recent on too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail

Senator Warren Lets Yellen Know She's Had It With the Fed's Charade About Too Big to Fail
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/07/senator-warren-lets-yellen-know-shes-had-it-with-the-feds-charade-about-too-big-to-fail/
Elizabeth Warren Torches Janet Yellen on Too-Big-To-Fail
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/elizabeth-warren-torches-janet-yellen-too-big-fail

and

BofA offers $13 billion to settle mortgage probe: WSJ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-bankofamerica-settlement-idUSKBN0FL1U620140716
Bank of America offering $13 billion to resolve probe
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838659
UPDATE 5-Litigation costs hit Bank of America's quarterly profit
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/bank-of-america-results-idUSL4N0PR3H020140716
EGREGIOUS FRAUDSTER: INTRODUCING BOB RUBIN'S CITICORP
http://www.economonitor.com/lrwray/2014/07/16/egregious-fraudster-introducing-bob-rubins-citicorp-2/#sthash.oGC36dFG.dpuf
DOJ Citigroup Settlement Lacks Disclosure Of Victims And Criminal Conduct
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/15/doj-citigroup-settlement-lacks-disclosure-of-victims-and-criminal-conduct/
Latest Citi Mortgage Settlement Shows Administration Disconnect
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/latest-citi-let-bank-easy-mortgage-settlement-shows-administration-disconnect.html
Citigroup Pays Just $7 Billion For Causing Financial Crisis
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/14/citigroup-pays-just-7-billion-for-causing-financial-crisis/#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=-&at_pos=2&at_tot=8&at_si=53c53708b10f5736
What's Missing in Citigroup's $7 Billion RMBS Deal
http://www.litigationdaily.com/id=1202663224458/Whats-Missing-in-Citigroups-7-Billion-RMBS-Deal?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=ALL&slreturn=20140615144530
Robert Scheer: Citigroup: The Original Gangsta
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/citigroup_the_original_gangsta_20140715
BlackRock, Pimco Sue Deutsche Bank, U.S. Bank Over Trustee Roles
http://online.wsj.com/articles/blackrock-pimco-sue-deutsche-bank-u-s-bank-over-trustee-roles-1403124442
Whoa! Big Banks Hit with Monster $250 Billion Lawsuit for Fraud in Housing Crisis
http://www.alternet.org/economy/whoa-big-banks-hit-monster-250-billion-lawsuit-fraud-housing-crisis
"Clear & convincing" evidence of FDIC wrongdoing
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140715060616-20494629--clear-and-convincing-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-the-fdic
Who Advised Cuomo on Mortgage Industry Investigation? A Mortgage Lobbyist
http://www.propublica.org/article/who-advised-cuomo-on-mortgage-industry-investigation-a-mortgage-lobbyist

and a little IBM drift:

DRUCKENMILLER: IBM Is The 'Poster Child' For What's Wrong With Corporate Behavior Today
http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-druckenmiller-on-ibm-2014-7

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDO posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:09:29 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#27 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#28 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#29 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

and couple quick updates

How America's Policies Sealed Iraq's Fate
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/nation-brink-americas-policies-sealed-iraqs-fate.html

and

Is This The Scariest Chart In IBM's History?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/scariest-chart-ibms-history

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Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 11:12:47 -0400
as undergraduate in the 60s ... I got to do a lot of mainframe programming ... even given responsibility for support of ibm operating system at the univ. and sent to ibm user group SHARE meetings. part of old presentation I made at fall '68 SHARE meeting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18 CP/67 & OS MFT14

then summer '69, I was brought into boeing as full time employee to help setup boeing computer services (among first half dozen employees), moving boeing dataprocessint into separate business unit to better monetize the investment (even providing services to non-boeing entities, a little like early cloud computing). when I graduate, I have to chose between staying at boeing or going to ibm science center.

recent posts mentioning working on computers as undergraduate in the 60s:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#19 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#97 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#70 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#19 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#25 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#28 Write Inhibit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#32 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#33 Long lived code? Long live long lived code!?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#39 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#56 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#58 The CIA's new "family jewels": Going back to Church?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#59 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#90 Enterprise Cobol 5.1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#9 Boyd for Business & Innovation Conference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#14 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#15 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#16 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#19 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#23 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#28 System/360 celebration set for ten cities; 1964 pricing for oneweek
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#76 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#39 weird trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#57 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#63 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#75 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#97 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#105 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#17 R.I.P. PDP-10?

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Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 12:06:51 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
Apparently still a little controversial. Couldn't disagree more. Just wrote something that generated a report from a highly used database in what seems like a magic amount of time to the users.

several things were developed on cp67 or vm370 follow-on.

original sql/relational was done on vm370 370/145 at ibm san jose research ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

other stuff happened at some of the virtual machine based commercial online service bureau spin-offs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#timeshare

RAMIS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_Software
RAMIS Software is a fourth-generation programming language capable of generating reports using simple language and many fewer lines of code than previous third-generation programing languages such as COBOL. RAMIS and its most recent version dubbed RAMIS II were developed at Mathematica Products Group, in Princeton, New Jersey, in the late 1960s through the early 1980s.

NOMAD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
Nomad Software is a relational database and fourth-generation language (4GL), originally developed in the 70s by time-sharing vendor National CSS, Inc. While it is still in use today, its widest use was in the 70s and 80s.

FOCUS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS
RAMIS, the first 4GL, was the direct ancestor of FOCUS, having been principally developed by Gerald D. Cohen and Peter Mittelman while working at Mathematica Products Group in 1970. The product was sold by Mathematica to a number of in-house clients (including Nabisco and AT&T), and was also offered by the National CSS timesharing company for use on their VP/CSS operating system (a derivation of IBM's CP/CMS which is now called VM/CMS).

... snip ...

folklore is that NOMAD was done by NCSS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_CSS

because FOCUS (RAMIS follow-on) was going to be offered on TYMSHARE (another virtual machine based online commercial service bureau)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

for other drift, TYMSHARE provided their cms-based online computer conferencing system free to (IBM user group) SHARE starting in in August 1976 ... archive here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/

past posts mentioning RAMIS, NOMAD, FOCUS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#79 a.f.c history checkup... (was What specifications will the standard year 2001 PC have?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#15 CA-RAMIS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#17 CA-RAMIS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#12 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#15 Pre-relational, post-relational, 1968 CODASYL "Survey of Data Base Systems"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#44 Shipwrecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#76 Athlon cache question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#38 xml-security vs. native security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#35 PDP-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37 PDP-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#13 Was FORTRAN buggy?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#37 Quote from comp.object
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#17 Newbie question on table design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#72 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#12 Cobol hits 50 and keeps counting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#27 Natural keys vs Aritficial Keys
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#41 While watching Biography about Bill Gates on CNBC last Night
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#54 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#63 VMSHARE Archives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#55 Maybe off topic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#15 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#69 "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#39 Beyond Patriot? The Multinational MEADS Air Defense Program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#1 Deja Cloud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#60 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#51 From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#84 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#31 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#30 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#57 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#16 Old data storage or data base
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#77 Bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#34 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services

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War or Jobs

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: War or Jobs
Date: 18 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
War or Jobs
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/war-on-jobs

from above:
The American Society of Civil Engineers estimates that it would cost $3.6 trillion to bring our nation's infrastructure to a state of good repair. Spending $1 trillion would create about 13 million jobs. "The choice is clear," Sanders said. "Let's rebuild America and create jobs here."

... snip ...

Volcker was talking to civil engineering professor about the disappearing civil engineering programs at universities. the long term lack of infrastructure spending has resulted in no jobs, and no jobs has resulted in no students. many of the stimulus funding projects had to hire chinese civil engineering firms; from Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President pg290:
Well, I said, 'The trouble with the United States recently is we spent several decades not producing many civil engineers and producing a huge number of financial engineers. And the result is s*tty bridges and a s*tty financial system!'

... snip ..

recent volcker refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#44 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#72 Chris Dodd's SOPA crusading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#88 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#11 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#43 Where are all the old tech workers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#47 Where are all the old tech workers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#2 Occupy the SEC (Securities & Exchange Commission)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#5 Too big not to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#19 Occupy the SEC Pitches An Extreme Makeover of Wall Street
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#39 Greek knife to Wall Street
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#54 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#63 The Economist's Take on Financial Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#86 CISPA legislation seen by many as SOPA 2.0
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#67 Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#9 JPM LOSES $2 BILLION USD!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#10 Accidentally Released - and Incredibly Embarrassing - Documents Show How Goldman et al Engaged in 'Naked Short Selling'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#30 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#48 Owl: China Swamps US Across the Board -- Made in China Computer Chips Have Back Doors, 45 Other "Ways & Means" Sucking Blood from US
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#56 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#31 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#37 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#38 Other Than In Computers, Civilization Basically Stopped Progressing In The 1960s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#46 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#64 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#77 Interesting News Article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#6 Good article. Friday discussion type
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#40 Core characteristics of resilience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#12 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#29 Jedi Knights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#3 OT: Tax breaks to Oracle debated
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#19 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#42 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#55 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#30 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#48 Citigroup is the Real Reason We Need the Volcker Rule
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#43 Royal Pardon for credit unions

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UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law
Date: 18 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/17/un_to_five_eyes_countries_youre_breaking_the_law/

some followup on this Success of Failure article (again related to "Cyber Dumb")
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

ThinThread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread
ThinThread
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/12/19/whistleblowers-vindicated-as-presidential-review-group-recommends-alternative-to-nsa-vacuuming-data/
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
https://news.yahoo.com/three-former-employees-became-nsa-critics-163808602.html
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
http://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe
Trailblazer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project
now Turbulence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbulence_%28NSA%29

for-profit companies make up over half the people and 70% of the budget, after gerstner leaves ibm he goes to head up a private-equity company that buys Snowden's employer (companies in this situation are under enormous pressure to do what ever is necessary to meet revenue/profit targets)
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

private-equity will frequently borrow the full amount to buy a company and then put the loan on that company's books to service (can increase debt load by a factor of ten times or more). Some comparison with house flipping except they can sell the company for less than they paid ... and still make enormous profit (since they don't pay off the loan, it goes with the sold company).

posts mentioning Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure
posts mentioning "private equity"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
posts mentioning gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

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Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:48:43 -0400
Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes:
Bull sell clusters using Itanium or Xeon chips.

Bull (also) sold rs/6000 and their customer support center in Billerica mass. were early ha/cmp customer. some past ha/cmp posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

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Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 22:35:46 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#35 Fortran archaeology, was R.I.P. PDP-10?
Computerworld 4/13/92 Page 6

GROUPE BULL (ANNOUNCEMENTS): Groupe Bull "warmed approximately 400 customers last week by pre-announcing products that have sprouted from the French firm's January pact with IBM."

- The company indicates that they will start to remarket the RISC/6000 as the DPX/20 next month.

- They also plan to announce low-end and midrange mainframe systems along with a new portable PC from their subsidiary, Zenith Data Systems.

- The EVP of Bull HN indicated that during the company's recent reorganization they "found some users had not been contacted for five to six years...we've been shocked by how little we knew of about this base of customers."


... snip ...

and recent post over in ibm-main about apple & ibm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#21 IBM to sell Apple

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:08:56 -0400
"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
Walmart is getting in the semi-banking business. They offer the equivalent of checking accounts to those with whom the regular banks will *not* do business. Perhaps they can give you an account even if you do *not* have an address.

note for a couple decades, #1 on walmart consumer surveys is wanting walmart to offer financial services ... as an alternative to the payday and other extremely preditory operations (some of the too big to fail have been found to using payday operations as front to skirt regulations).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/22/payday-loans-banks_n_906765.html
other refs to payday operations
http://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/payday_lending/

It is possible to get a gift or merchant ("stored-value") card which is registered and possible to do financial transfers to the account ("add value"). A version of this is even enabled for withdrawing cash at ATM machines. This gets into real battles between the traditional financial industry and potential competitors with new technology (like mobile phones) ... the financial establishment frequently responds with huge amount of FUD.

Rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA was to keep new competitors out of banking business (if you already have a banking charter, you get to keep it, but if you don't have one, you can't get one) ... specifically referring to walmart and microsoft. Of course GLBA is now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
and the author #2 on time's list of those responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

payment fees have accounted for 40-60% of US financial institution bottom line (and is heavily prorated based on fraud rates). Over the years there have been numerous anti-trust legatation regarding interchange fees. A decade ago, Walmart indicated that it wanted to acquire an Utah ILC (as work-aroaund to GLBA) ... so it can be its own merchant acquiring bank ... basically eliminating the acquiring interchange fees that it was paying to one of the too big to fail. This kicked off a campaign to get the small, local community banks to write their congressmen opposing the acquisition (even tho the impact would have been the loss of walmart merchant interchange fees to one of the largest too big to fail ... note that this is non-trivial since walmart accounts for 25-30% of retail transactions). posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

as an aside, auto loan companies have acquired Utah ILCs to enable loan business in every state w/o 1) national bank charter coming under national regulation or 2) needing separate charter in every state

recent posts mentioning Utah ILC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#20 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#76 Did these tech and telecom companies assess the risk and return with respect to Anti-Money Laundering challenges?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#84 Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal

recent posts mentioning #2 on time's list of those responsible for economic mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#98 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#0 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#3 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#7 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

I've mentioned before that Gerstner "wins" the competition to be the next CEO of AMEX ... the looser leaves and takes his protege with him and go to Baltimore and acquires what is described as loan-sharking business. They make several other acquisitions finally acquiring citibank in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall ... which enables too big to fail. The protege then goes on to be the head of another too big to fail.

AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR, KKR wins, but runs into trouble and hires Gerstner away to turn-around RJR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM goes into the red and is being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company ... ref: "How IBM Was Left Behind" ... 28Dec1992:
http://web.archive.org/web/20101120231857/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html

The IBM board then hires gerstner away to reverse the breakup and resurrect the company. past posts mentioning gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:48:37 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity take-over of RJR, KKR wins, but runs into trouble and hires Gerstner away to turn-around RJR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#37 Sale receipt--obligatory?

oh, and ...

By the early 90s, the industry got such a bad reputation that they changed the name to "private equity" (and "junk bonds" became "high yield bonds" ... they bring in spin-doctors to try and improve their image but not actually change their practices) "The Buyout of America: How Private Equity Is Destroying Jobs and Killing the American Economy", log63-64:
I soon realized the rapacious leveraged-buyout (LBO) kings of the 1980s were still around. They had just adopted a new name, now calling themselves private-equity investors.

... loc465-67:
At about the same time that LBO groups became private-equity firms, junk bonds were renamed high-yield bonds, and investment banks like Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette, full of former Drexelites, began to sell them increasingly to mutual funds, money managers, and insurers

... snip ...

posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

the "junk bonds" were a major factor in the S&L mess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis

other recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#60 GAO and Wall Street Journal Whitewash Huge Criminal Bank Frauds

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:44:55 -0400
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
The financial side of things continues to perplex and amaze me. It is as though the people involved were from a whole different planet and had their own notions of cause and effect. The only sensible guy I can identify in the whole biz is Bogle, the head of Vanguard.

Buffett had at least one good idea, newspapers are like a license to print money. But those days are *gone* and It isn't obvious that he realizes an era has ended.

The managers of my IRA account lost $35K of my money in a failed insurance company. I found that there were outfits that rated insurance companies - like S&P and Moody's for bonds. I went to the library and looked through old issues. Things were just peachy, and then, out of nowhere - BOOM. Exactly like S&P and the housing thing. My story dates from the early 90s.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#67 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#26 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#37 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#38 Sale receipt--obligatory?

oct2008 congressional hearings into role that rating agencies played in the financial mess had lots of testimony that the sellers were paying for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A). tv news commentary at the time made prediction that the rating agencies will probably avoid federal prosecution by black mailing the gov (variation on too big to prosecute) posts mentioning too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

securitized mortages had (also) been used during the S&L mess to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but w/o triple-A rating that didn't have much of market. in the late 90s we were asked to work on integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages (as countermeasure) ... long-winded wandering post (from jan1999)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

however, they soon learned that triple-A rating trumps supporting documents and they could start doing no-document (no-down, liar) loans (and w/o supporting documents, there was no longer issue of supporting document integrity). posts mentioning (triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

from recent post .. analogous to the campaign to get community banks to write their congressmen opposing walmart acquiring Utah ILC (& printing money):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess

Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
loc754-62:
In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."

... snip ...

I've mentioned before that in Jan2009, I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings (30s senate hearings into crash of '29, resulted in numerous criminal convictions; had been scanned the fall2008 at Boston Public Library) with lots of internal cross-links and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (reference that the new congress might have appetite to do something). I worked on it for awhile and then got a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill). posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

also that local washington press will periodically comment that the political public face of congress is Kabuki Theater (and has little or nothing to do with what really is going on))
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

another are studies that wallstreet tends to attract sociopaths that view the rest of the population as prey (part of the reason for sometimes referring to financial institutions as predatory) ... past sociopath refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#77 Madoff Whistleblower Book
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#24 AMERICA IS BROKEN, WHAT NOW?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#30 Have you ever wondered why some people seem to get rich easily
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#80 How Pursuit of Profits Kills Innovation and the U.S. Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#4 The Myth of Work-Life Balance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#30 Age of Greed: The Triumph of Finance and the Decline of America, 1970 to the Present
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#16 Interview of Mr. John Reed regarding banking fixing the game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#99 New theory of moral behavior may explain recent ethical lapses in banking industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#1 Spontaneous conduction: The music man with no written plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#91 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#16 Psychology Of Fraud: Why Good People Do Bad Things
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#84 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#53 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#14 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#53 Retirement Savings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#76 Crowdsourcing Diplomacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#1 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#1 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:09:48 -0400
frailey writes:
I took this test in 1962 when I was a senior in high school. I did well enough to get two summer job offers - one from IBM and one from the Ford Scientific Research Laboratory. I took the job with Ford because it involved programming for real applications (the IBM job involved being an assistant to a man who repaired accounting machines). The test evaluated my ability to think in a logical manner and solve puzzles. While certainly not comprehensive by today's standards, it did work fairly well from my perspective. I ended up with a 40+ year career in software development.

I went to recruitment day and took the IBM programmer aptitude test just before I graduated. The IBMer said that I didn't get high enuf score to be offerred a job. I then explained that I had already been working as primary ibm operating system support at the univ, had been brought in to help setup boeing computer services as full-time employee ... and had to chose between staying with boeing or accepting job offer with the ibm cambridge science center (at "staff" level ... skipping beginning, associate and the other lower levels). He couldn't reconcile my score and the job offer from the science center (course it didn't make any difference). posts mentioning science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

Recent posts that major IBM products had been original developed at customer or internal datacenters and then moved to a (software) "development group" for support and maintenance ... the transition to "object code only" in the 80s ... greatly curtailed much of that innovation:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#19 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#74 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#79 EBFAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#80 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#6 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#7 You can make your workplace 'happy'

other recent refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#31 How many EBCDIC machines are still around?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#19 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#23 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#69 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#62 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#63 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#31 Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:33:49 -0400
Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
One friend of mime said we are losing a few dollars on every one ... we are selling so we dropped the price to lose money faster..

It is interesting to do a Monte Carlo model of sales and find the sweet spot for pricing to maximize profits. In the real world there is always a finite market for any product.

Look at both apple and Microsoft. they are not where they are because they have/had the lowest prices. MS may have actually optimized the return from the OS that they bought for a few dollars 25 years ago.


IBM (at least used to) do forecasts starting with low, medium, and high price ... in part to see corresponding number of sales and gov. requirement that sales*price had to cover costs.

the transition to charging for (initially just application) software with 23jun1969 announcement (they made the case that operating/kernel software should still be free)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

was somewhat hard on some of the central organizations, having grown exceedingly bloated ... some of this is seen in Brook's Mythical Man-Month:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

however, they came up with some creative book fiddling. The science center ... and several of the products originated there ... tended to have enormously less costs. An early scenario was announcement of JES2 networking product (which by itself never could find a price point where the sales forecast would exceed cost) as a "joint" product with vm370 vnet/rscs. The joint price was jacked up as high as possible and still not loose many of the vnet/rscs customers so that the joint revenue could be used to cover the JES2 networking costs (by itself, vnet/rscs could have been sold very close to media distribution costs and still meet gov. requirements). some past posts mentioning hasp, jes, jes2 networking http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp

note that this issue was despite the fact that a lot of the jes2 networking code carried over from hasp networking much of which carried the characters "TUCC" in cols68-71 of the source (originally from TUCC).

one of the "innovations" of vnet/rscs was layered architecture ... where JES2/HASP networking support was intertwined in standard job processing. Because of the tight integration, JES2 systems at different release levels exchanging network files could result in the MVS host crashing. By comparison vnet/rscs had native line drivers ... and then special JES2 line drivers. On the internal network a library of JES2 line drivers grew up for RSCS that would convert JES2 header formats for different releases (trying to help keep connected JES2 systems from crashing MVS systems).

science center ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

former co-worker responsible for rscs/vnet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

which was the dominant technology for the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until some time late 85 or early 86)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

as well as the corporate sponsored univ bitnet (& earn) ... also larger than arpanet/internet for a time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

later they removed the native rscs/vnet line drivers from the product (even though they were significantly more efficient and higher throughput) and only shipped the rscs/vnet JES2 drivers (minimizing comparisons between the two) ... although the native rscs/vnet drivers tended to be used internally long after they stopped shipping to customers.

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:33:32 -0400
greymausg writes:
Where do you get the cash? ATM. It records all numbers, and has a video camera for faces.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#67 Sale receipt--obligatory?

I've told the story before about chip&pin ... start of the century there was large deployment in the us ... but it was during the "yes card" period ... somebody's comment that they spent billions of dollars to prove chips were less secure than magstripe ... and then all evidence of the deployment seems to disappear w/o a trace. old "yes card" reference (trip report to cartes2002, gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine) ... bottom of the page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html
past posts mentioning "yes card"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

in the UK last decade, as part of motivating the deployment, they reverse the burdon of proof in dispute (when chip is used; i.e. instead of having to prove you did it, you have to prove you didn't do it). i was contacted by some legal represntative of somebody claiming they didn't do it ... but they needed to provide surveillance video to prove they didn't do it (i.e. that it was somebody else). there was video surveillance at the ATM, but the bank claimed that they couldn't find the video.

customers are also told not to report fraud to the police ... but to their financial institution ... and the financial institution would decide whether they will report to police or not. a few old posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#39 Usable Security 2007
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#61 Halifax faces legal challenge on chip-and-pin security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#35 Does the UK Government Really Want us to Report Fraud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#60 Target Offers Free Credit Monitoring Following Security Breach

old reference at wayback machine: "Fraud victims told not to go to police"
http://web.archive.org/web/20070302123100/http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/news/2183192/cheque-card-crimes

Note in the 90s, the EU Data Privacy Directive (EU-DPD) was suppose to mean that electronic transactions at point-of-sale were to be as anonymous as cash (i.e. no name on credit/debit card and no checking gov. issued picture id).

Note however, in the US there is supposedly "know you customer" mandates for financial institutions (part of anti money laundering and other activities). However, the past decade or so, some number of the too big to fail have been repeatedly caught money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists ... and nothing more than slapped hands.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

some of the non-prosecution for too big to fail money laundering was where I first starting to see references to too big to prosecute and too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

A related issue is account fraud involving crooks opening new accounts with "synthetic IDs". Banks have claimed that they have been defrauded by crooks using "synthetic IDs" (doen't actually represent any living/real person) ... however this would also appear to be US financial institutions failing to comply with "know you customer" mandates. a few posts mentioning "know you customer":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm3.htm#cstech13 cardtech/securetech & CA PKI
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#20 PKI International Consortium
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm21.htm#12 Payment Tokens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#44 Governance of anonymous financial services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#1 2008: The year of hack the vote?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#41 AADS, X9.59, & privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#29 The new urgency to fix online privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#54 The new urgency to fix online privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#62 Client Certificate UI for Chrome? -- OT anonymous-transaction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#50 WSJ.com The Fallacy of Identity Theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#27 New Gift Card Laws Also Benefit Terrorists
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#36 Cookies Are Dead in the Fight Against Fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#13 "Compound threats" to appear in 2011 ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#49 Does outsourcing cause data loss?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#28 SNA vs TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#96 'Synthetic' ID Theft Emerging As Fastest-Growing Type Of Consumer Fraud

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 01:07:04 -0400
JimP. <pongbill127@cableone.net> writes:
The 'short of war' thing FDR did was supposed to just protect American merchants out to Iceland, where British and Candian took over all of the convoy protection.

The USS Reuben James was sunk by a U-Boat Capitan who got in trouble with Adolf. There were two other US escorts who got torpedoed. This was in November, 1941. Less than a month from Pearl Harbour.


Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture; loc1289-90
fact is frequently played down in the United States that the British and Canadians, in fact, conducted most of the ASW operations in the Atlantic.

loc1293-95:
Canada started the war with a navy of only eleven ships, five of which were minesweepers, and just 1,800 men in the regular Navy, but by the end had accounted for the destruction or capture of nearly fifty German submarines. The U.S. Navy began the war with over 337,000 personnel and more than 300 ships.

loc1303-4:
Despite this "less than overwhelming" performance, the U.S. Navy did not seem to have a clue that the Canadians and British were far more significant players in the Battle of the Atlantic.

loc1317-18:
Not surprisingly, much of what the American public was told about U.S. Navy ASW performance in the Atlantic was outright fabrication, said Regan.

loc1321-22:
Basically, the Navy department began issuing lies. They claimed twenty-eight U-boats had been sunk off the east coast whereas the correct figure was nil.

loc1322-24:
Regan summarized that "the Navy PR officers were not so easily defeated as their anti-submarine operation," 76 in what amounted to a vast spin campaign to protect negligent senior admirals from public disgrace and possible dismissal.

... snip ...

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 09:52:25 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Did you ever find out what kinds of questions caused the low score?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

never did, but the IBMer doing interview was incredulous when I told him that I already had offer from science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

was fairly senior position ... and not entry level. possibly conjecture was the test was oriented to finding those that fit the "Man Month" profile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

recent refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#99 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#41 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

I have mentioned in the past being blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s & early 80s (folklore is that when the executive committee was told about online computer conferencing & the internal network, 5of6 wanted to fire me). internal network posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

I've also mentioned that somewhat as result of online computer conferencing, a researcher was assigned to study how I communicated. They sat in the back of my office for 9months, took notes on how I communicated, face-to-face, telephone, went with me to meetings and got copies of all my incoming & outgoing email as well as logs of all my instant messages (almost tempted to reference gov. evesdropping). The result was a number of papers and at least one book as well as stanford PHD (joint with language and computer AI, winograd was advisor on computer AI side). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

the researcher had previously spent some time as English as Second Language instructor, and once commented that my use of English was characteristic of non-native speaker.

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:13:25 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
some of the non-prosecution for too big to fail money laundering was where I first starting to see references to too big to prosecute and too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#42 Sale receipt--obligatory?

recent semi-parody on lack of prosecution ... i.e. the Citi announcement lists violations that would otherwise have resulted in criminal prosecution

AG Holder: "The U.S. Announces the Indictment of Citigroup's Senior Officers for Fraud"
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/07/ag-holder-u-s-announces-indictment-citigroups-senior-officers-fraud.html#more-8439
Article: AG Holder: "The U.S. Announces the Indictment of Citigroup's Senior Officers for Fraud"
http://www.opednews.com/articles/AG-Holder--The-U-S-Annou-by-William-K-Black--Accountability_Banking_Banks_Banksters-140719-342.html
AG Holder - "U.S. Announces the Indictment of Citigroup's Senior Officers"
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/bill-black-holder-citigroup-settlement.html
USDOJ: Justice Department, Federal and State Partners Secure Record $7 Billion Global Settlement with Citigroup for Misleading Investors
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/July/14-ag-733.html

recent posts referencing S&L mess had 30,000 criminal referrals and last decade has resulted in "zero" criminal referrals (even tho it was 70 times larger):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#66 GAO and Wall Street Journal Whitewash Huge Criminal Bank Frauds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#27 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

other recent news

BlackRock, Pimco Sue Deutsche Bank, U.S. Bank Over Trustee Roles Lawsuits Focus on More Than 2,000 Mortgage Bonds
http://online.wsj.com/articles/blackrock-pimco-sue-deutsche-bank-u-s-bank-over-trustee-roles-1403124442
Black Rock and PIMCO Sue Banks for $250 Billion Did the Other Shoe Just Drop?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/16/did-the-other-shoe-just-drop/
EGREGIOUS FRAUDSTER: INTRODUCING BOB RUBIN'S CITICORP
http://www.economonitor.com/lrwray/2014/07/16/egregious-fraudster-introducing-bob-rubins-citicorp-2/
Latest Citi "Let Bank Off Easy" Mortgage Settlement Shows Administration Disconnect
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/latest-citi-let-bank-easy-mortgage-settlement-shows-administration-disconnect.html
BofA offers $13 billion to settle mortgage probe: WSJ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-bankofamerica-settlement-idUSKBN0FL1U620140716
Bank of America offering $13 billion to resolve probe
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838659
UPDATE 5-Litigation costs hit Bank of America's quarterly profit
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/bank-of-america-results-idUSL4N0PR3H020140716
U.S. official warns banks of lawsuits over mortgage misconduct
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/usa-justice-fraud-idUSL2N0PR1ZB20140716
Slate Money on the Citigroup settlement, Big Tobacco and the Joint Strike Fighter
http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/slate_money/2014/07/slate_money_on_the_citigroup_settlement_big_tobacco_and_the_joint_strike.html?wpisrc=burger_bar

end of 2008, the four largest too big to fail were still holding $5.2T ("off book") of triple-A rated toxic CDOs
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home
over $27T were done during the economic mess (claims that it accounts for wallstreet size, as percent of GDP, tripling during the economic mess)
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:19:25 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
This is pretty common on all sides. It's difficult to tell if you've sunk a sub, so captains naturally tend to put the most favorable face on their achievements.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#43 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

the focus in that section of the book was that Canadians & British had learned some the hard way on what worked & what didn't ... and the US Navy treated it pretty much as NIH and ignored advice ... as a result their tactics were nearly useless ... and that the ineffectiveness of the US Navy resulted in increasing the area of Canadian responsibility (goes into a lot more from historical records).

loc1289-90:
fact is frequently played down in the United States that the British and Canadians, in fact, conducted most of the ASW operations in the Atlantic.

loc1388-90:
That was World War II, but some things never change, or they change only temporarily. In fact, "By 1958, the CNO, Adm. Arleigh Burke, wanted 'to know why the Navy's ASW effort, despite all the high tech, was so weak and ineffective."

... snip ...

another section goes on how the US Navy has more recently extremely neglected ASW ... as well as various kinds of new non-nuclear submarine technology. several recent large scale navy war games have used allies modern diesel/electric non-nuclear submarines as part of the red team ... and every time they have poped up in the middle of carrier group, taken out the carrier and several escorts. The navy has then tried hard to prevent the release the results of those war games.

loc650-53:
This news and Knuth's original uncensored report, which ended up in the hands of Senator Gary Hart, caused quite a stir in Congress, and the U.S. Navy had a lot of explaining to do. Why had not one but two American carriers been sunk, and why had the submarines responsible not been detected? Why indeed had a small, 1960s-vintage diesel submarine of the underfunded and multidimensionally "bantam" Canadian navy been able to defeat one of America's most powerful and expensive warships, and with such apparent ease?

... snip ...

the US Navy even tried to use the excuse that the Canadians had cheated and didn't play fair in the war games.

loc674-75:
While Canadian submarines have routinely taken on American carriers, other small navies have enjoyed similar victories. The Royal Netherlands Navy, with its small force of extremely quiet diesel submarines, has made the U.S. Navy eat the proverbial humble pie on more than one occasion.

... snip ...

other recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#1 Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:47:56 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
I went to a technical school to learn programming. I did well in the school, earning an A and acing all the tests.

Then my employer at the time sent me to HR to take the aptitude test. They told me I didn't pass but asked me to take it again. Then they told me I didn't pass again, but offered me a programming position anyway.

The thing is, I usually do well on those types of tests.

Years later it occurred to me, maybe they were lying. Maybe I did do well on the test. Maybe too well, leading them to the second test.

I'll never know. Either the test completely failed to measure my ability, or maybe they were just having their way with me.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

shortly after joining IBM ... I guess I started to be a problem ... during the "Future System" period, I refused to work on FS, continued to work on 370 and would even periodically ridicule FS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

there were a few similar instances even before getting blamed for online computer conferencing. about the same time as the online computer conferencing flap ... I wrote an open door claiming that I was vastly underpaid, even including references. I got back written response from head of HR that my complete employment history had been reviewed and I was making exactly what I was suppose to. I then took my original and their response and wrote a response that I had been asked to interview new hires for a new group that would work under my technical direction and HR was making the new hires offers that were 30% more than I was currently making. I never got a response from HR ... but within few weeks, I got a 30% raise ... aka it wasn't a 30% raise to put me at my correct salary level, it was 30% raise to bring me up level with what they were offering the new hires. past refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#74 My Vintage Dream PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#82 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#79 The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#66 Win 3.11 on Broadband
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#0 coax (3174) throughput
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#2 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#12 Clone Processors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#28 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42 The IBM "Open Door" policy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#65 IBM layoffs strike frst in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#81 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

periodically during my career, people would remind me that business ethics was an oxymoron.

other past posts referencing being told that business ethics is an oxymoron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#72 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#53 CROOKS and NANNIES: what would Boyd do?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#37 How do you see ethics playing a role in your organizations current or past?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#36 U.S. students behind in math, science, analysis says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#52 Revisiting CHARACTER and BUSINESS ETHICS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#57 U.S. begins inquiry of IBM in mainframe market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#50 "Portable" data centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#38 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#20 Would you fight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#0 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#44 16:32 far pointers in OpenWatcom C/C++
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#59 Productivity And Bubbles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#28 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42 The IBM "Open Door" policy

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:27:38 -0400
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
This happens all the time. In fields where pay is going up rapidly or periods of high inflation, companies will frequently pay new hires more than the people hired last year or the year before etcetera.

They figure they can (usually) get away with small raises for their current employees, but have to meet the market for newbies.

WHAT? You were expecting justice? From a corporation?


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

I had included in the original open door a copy of (then recent) SJMN series on pay in silicon valley ... basically job hopping played significant component ... if you had been with the same company more than 2yrs, you were underpaid ... but it didn't have case where nearly 20yrs in the business, was making 30% less than new hire offers (significantly more egregious than any of the examples).

however, recently in news has been several silicon valley companies convicted for salary fixing and aggreements to not poach each others workers.

Google and Apple Settle Lawsuit Alleging Wage-Fixing
http://time.com/76655/google-apple-settle-wage-fixing-lawsuit/
pple, Google Settle Wage-Fixing and Hiring Conspiracy Case
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/04/apple-google-settle-wage-fixing-hiring-case
Tech giants settle wage-fixing allegations for a reported $324M
http://nypost.com/2014/04/24/tech-giants-settle-wage-fixing-allegations-for-a-reported-324m/
Fixing a Salary Negotiation Mistake Before the Job Offer
http://www.salary.com/advice/layouthtmls/advl_display_Cat8_Ser202_Par304.html
Apple, others officially agree to $325M settlement in Silicon Valley wage fixing case
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/23/apple-others-officially-agree-to-325m-settlement-in-silicon-valley-wage-fixing-case
Pixar, LucasFilm, DreamWorks Animation In Alleged Wage-Fixing Cartel To Boost Profit
http://nikkifinke.com/pixar-lucasfilm-dreamworks-animation-wage-fixing-conspiracy/
Tech giants lose round in wage-fixing suit
http://www.cnet.com/news/judge-denies-request-for-summary-judgment-in-tech-firm-wage-suit/

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:00:50 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
Later tranmissions are a lot more focused along the earth's surface.

HSDT ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

in the 80s had some TDMA satellite earth stations, was using (Ku band) transponder on SBS4 (went up on 41d) in geosync orbit. Was putting in 4.5meter dish out behind yorktown research ... and local residents were complaining/protesting to local council about the radition from the dish. one of yorktown people attended council meeting and showed that even if somebody was suspended directly above the (focused, directional, 25watt transmitter) dish ... they would receive less radition than local residents were receiving from the local FM (50k watt) station transmission ... old ref:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#25 CP spooling & programming technology

was looking at around 20mbit/sec aggregate ... oh, and the dish had uplink power control and tended to operate under 25watt unless heavy moisture (aka similar principle to microwave ovens with water absorbing microwave energy).

all links had to be encrypted and the highest rate I could get at the time was T1 (2mbit/sec full-duplex) ... so had to do multiple links ... IBM did have a c-band T3 operation with mostly voice that had a very specialized, and very expensive T3 encryptor ... was periodically referred to as the "data aggravator" ... there is funny story about man-in-black showing up attempting to prevent it being turned on.

we did have a transponder use preemption clause which was only invoked once when the pope visited denver for additional tv coverage bandwidth.

past posts mentioning sbs4 &/or 41d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#27 Tysons Corner, Virginia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#28 Western Union data communications?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#29 IBM 3725 Comms. controller - Worth saving?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#76 1950s AT&T/IBM lack of collaboration?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#14 Ping: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#23 Health care and lies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#60 JES2 NJE setup
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#21 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#17 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#26 IBM microwave application--early data communications
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#24 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#55 5963 (computer grade dual triode) production dates?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#11 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#16 Why I use a Mac, anno 2006
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#31 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#41 Year-end computer bug could ground Shuttle
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#61 Damn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#64 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#19 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#20 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#44 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#27 My Vintage Dream PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#76 And, 40 years of IBM midrange
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#36 U.S. students behind in math, science, analysis says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#0 Anyone going to Supercomputers '09 in Portland?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#57 watches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#58 watches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#69 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#12 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#51 The Credit Card Criminals Are Getting Crafty
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#32 Colossal Cave Adventure in PL/I
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#76 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#61 End of an era
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#77 End of an era
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#3 We are on the brink of a historic decision [referring to defence cuts]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#0 Happy Challenger Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#43 Layer 8: NASA unplugs last mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#13 Is newer technology always better? It almost is. Exceptions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#0 By Any Other Name
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#78 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#80 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:19:12 -0400
greymausg writes:
AFAIRead at the time, in exercises near Taiwan, The Chinese introduced a sub into a US carrier defense screen, which was unnoticed for a while.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#90 Can America Win Wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#1 Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#3 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#43 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#46 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

more recent

U.S. Navy's Biggest Ships Are in China's Sights
http://time.com/3000961/u-s-navys-biggest-ships-are-in-chinas-sights/

there is also periodic news about china's anti-ship cruise missiles and a2ad ... recent post:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#66 Royal Pardon For Turing

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:08:44 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#28 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

effort to release rest of 9/11 documents has been going on for some time

"I Was Absolutely Shocked At What I Read," Congressman Calls For Release Of Secret 9/11 Documents
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-20/i-was-absolutely-shocked-what-i-read-congressman-calls-release-secret-911-documents
Must Watch Video - Congressman Thomas Massie Calls for Release of Secret 9/11 Documents Upon Reading Them
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/07/15/must-watch-video-congressman-thomas-massie-calls-for-release-of-secret-911-documents-upon-reading-them/

couple past refs to 9/11 families were given permission to sue Saudi Arabia for responsibility for 9/11
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#99 Reducing Army Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#103 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#14 Royal Pardon For Turing

some past refs that things became increasingly possible as US become more energy independent.

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:43:49 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
Hey, I got "blamed" for lots of things. But I didn't quite look at it that way, especially if whatever I did got used. So much work gets done in spite of management, I look at it as just the way things are done.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

one of the customers that i would drop in on (and got to know pretty well, sit around and kabitz with datacenter manager) had enormously huge football field of ibm mainframes ... maybe not like renton or spook base ... but still pretty large. The local IBM branch manager had horribly offended the customer ... and as "revenge" they were going to be the first commercial true blue customer to install a clone processor (this vendor had been selling into education & scientific market ... but had yet to break into the commercial market).

I got asked to spend 6months on site at the customer account. The claim was the branch manager was good sailing buddy of the CEO ... and when the customer is the first commercial account to install clone processor ... it would ruin the branch manager's career. I was suppose to be there for six months to make it look like it was a technical issue (distracting any reflection on the branch manager) ... however i knew from the customer that there wasn't going to be anything that stops them from istalling the processor from clone vendor (although it would be the only one in a vast sea of true blue machines). I was told that if I didn't do it, I could kiss goodby to any career in the company.

One of the reasons i stayed was there was more toys than anywhere else in the world. One of my hobbies was doing enhanced production operating systems for internal datacenters ... and i could walk into almost any corporate interal datacenter in the world and be allowed to play. I also got to play disk engineer in bldgs. 14&15 ... or dozens of other things ... all below top executive radar.

past posts getting to play disk engineer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
one of my long time internal operating system customers was the world wide online sales&marketing system system HONE ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

FS was suppose to completely replace 370 ... and internal politics was killing off 370 efforts ... which is credited with giving clone vendors market foothold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

in the wake of FS failure, there was mad rush to get products back into pipeline ... 3033 (168 remapped to 20% faster chips) and 3081 were kicked off in parallel. A couple of us got the 3033 processor engineers to work on a 16-way design in their spare time. Everybody in high-end mainframe land (POK) thot it was really great until somebody told the head of POK it could be decades before the POK favorite son operating system had 16-way support. Then we were asked to never visit POK again and the processor engineers were instructed to never get distracted again. However, I could still sneak into POK and go bike riding with processor engineers.

recent posts mentioning renton datacenter at that time i was there had upwards of $300M ibm mainframe equipment ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#31 How many EBCDIC machines are still around?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#9 Boyd for Business & Innovation Conference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#19 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#23 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#57 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#63 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd

past posts mentioning the branch manager that horribly offended one of his customers:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#63 Moving assembler programs above the line
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#32 IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#19 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#28 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#12 I actually miss working at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#19 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#31 computer bootlaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#61 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#21 Word Length
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#8 International Business Marionette
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#22 Teletypewriter Model 33

misc. recent posts mentioning 16-way
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#6 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#70 architectures, was Open source software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#19 z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#59 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#59 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#11 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#21 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law

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transactions, was There Is Still Hope

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: transactions, was There Is Still Hope
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:08:40 -0400
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
This is pretty much the same transaction model that was implemented on the original SABER* system on 7090 mainframes in 1960, based on the design of the SAGE air defense system in the 1950s. The design has been reimplemented many times, with the current incarnation being TPF on the IBM zSeries. It gets fabulous performance at the cost of very difficult programming.

Processes and threads are essentially tradeoffs. They make the programmer's job easier by automating the context management, at the cost of less performance. If you're running bleeding edge airline or banking systems, you need the performance and are willing to pay the programming cost. If you're running some random web app, perhaps not.


airline control program ... ACP ... rename TPF in the early 80s because some number of financial systems were using it.

I knew ibm se on large commercial account in LA in the 70s ... had implemented non-ACP/non-TPF support for ATM cash machine transactions that ran on 370/158 and outperformed ACP/TPF running on 370/168 (i.e. 1mip processor versus 3mip processor) doing same ATM cash machine transactions

tymshare had done gnosis and when M/D bought tymshare, gnosis was spunoff to key logic as keykos. in the 90s, keykos was outperforming tpf doing various tpf workloads. some recent refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#84 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#53 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#40 Named Memory

in 1st half of 90s, we were brought into the largest airline res system running acp/tpf to look at redoing their ten impossible things. turns out that lots of implementation was left over from design trade-offs made in the 60s. relatively limited computing resources in the 60s resulted in design that had large amount of manual prep pre-tailoring data for very short pathlength. effectively all of their ten impossible things were because of the manual effort that went into pretailoring all the data. in two months i was able to do new implementation that made totally different tradeoffs using more modern 90s technology ... do all ten impossible things ... and for various reasons, ran 100 times faster (in part could leverage increase in processor memory sizes to keep a lot more stuff resident rather than constantly going back&forth to disk). that then ran into status quo brick wall ... since eliminating all that manual pre-tailoring was very expensive organization with nearly 1000 people.

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:17:05 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

other archaeological tales

not long after graduating and joining the science center ... other recent ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#31 Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity)

the company hired a new CSO ... as was common in the period commercial CSO coming from gov. service, specializing in physical security (in this case head of presidential detail). even tho I had relatively recently started with company ... was considered one of the most knowledgeable on computer security ... was asked to run around with the new CSO ... providing some detail about computer security (and a little bit of physical security rubbing off) ... before the incident involving CEO's sailing buddy and first install of clone processor in true blue commercial account.

for other drift ... I didn't learn about these guys until later
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

for related drift ... recent post mentioning HSDT & link encryptors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#49 Sale receipt--obligatory

I really hated what had to pay for T1 link encryptors (and was effectively near impossible to getting anything faster) ... and got involved in doing our own. Objective was under $100 to produce and handle at least 3mbyte/sec (not 3mbit/sec). Initially the corporate crypto group said it significantly reduced standard crypto strength. It took me 3months to figure out how to explain to them what was going on (significantly increased standard crypto strength). It was hollow victory ... got told could build as many as I wanted ... but they all had to be shipped to address in maryland (and I couldn't use any). It was when I realized there was three kinds of crypto: 1) the kind they don't care about, 2) the kind you can't do, 3) the kind you can only do for them.

past posts mentioning 3kinds crypto:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#87 New test attempt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#86 Own a piece of the crypto wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#32 Getting Out Hard Drive in Real Old Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#43 Internet Evolution - Part I: Encryption basics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#19 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#20 TELSTAR satellite experiment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#69 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#0 We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#63 ARPANET's coming out party: when the Internet first took center stage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#85 Key Escrow from a Safe Distance: Looking back at the Clipper Chip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#63 Reject gmail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#70 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#47 T-carrier
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#1 IBM Mainframe (1980's) on You tube
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#31 The Vindication of Barb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#69 The failure of cyber defence - the mindset is against it
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#77 German infosec agency warns against Trusted Computing in Windows 8
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#88 NSA and crytanalysis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#10 "NSA foils much internet encryption"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#50 Secret contract tied NSA and security industry pioneer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#9 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#25 Is there any MF shop using AWS service?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:29:31 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
Was the area where you grew up French-based?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

nope, but my mother says I was almost 3 before I talked

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:38:20 -0400
hancock4 writes:
A basic economic fact, known for years, is that the 'sweet spot' is where marginal income equals marginal costs. In essence, you want your factories working at 100% of capacity selling all it produces, but not more or less than that, and prices to meet that demand.

things got different with software ... since the factory cost is zip ... big upfront costs ... and then any ongoing support and maintenance.

with 23jun1969 unbundling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

with starting to charge for (application) software ... product revenue was required to cover costs ... looking at price elasticity ... maximize price while not impacting number of sales. straight-forward could find local optima (hill-climbing algorithms) ... but there might be other "peaks" (multiple peaks & valleys). it was part of the reason for doing it starting with low, medium and high price ... and then optimize for each starting point ... and see if it reaches different peaks.

parts of the current chip business is similar and different ... huge, upfront, new technology development costs plus associated multi-billion dollar "factories" that is obsolete within a couple years (and new one has to be built) ... and relatively fixed per wafer manufacturing cost & production rate. it becomes somewhat analogous to airline algorithms for filling seats. would prefer that all production slots are used for highest priced product ... but if there are production slots left over, may be forced to produce some mix of lower priced products (as part of covering the significant upfront costs).

base wafer production may be in the $20k range ... if you can get 4000 chips per wafer ... you are down to about $5/chip production costs. if you can double the area of the wafer and halve the circuit size ... you can get it down to less than $1/chip. However the price still has to cover the enormous upfront cost. Say a fab has capacity to do 20M chips before fab/technology is obsolete ... that still may mean $100-$500/chip upfront costs.

recent posts mentioning that based on 1stQTR2014 ibm mainframe sales, its processor chips done in latest 450mm wafers and 14nm technology, a full years sales is less than 1 day of a fab's chip production.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#57 [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:52:34 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
Ireland will fare a lot better than the US, because this one is very directional, or at least the computations say so. Still, 20 meters of tsunami at Shannon, 13 in Dublin may be somewhat drastic to cope with. There will be around 3 hours notice. That should suffice for all coastal areas if the alertness is good; but currently I see a majority refusing to leave on so short notice.

The US eastern seaboard may get 60 meters in places, and 5-6 hour warning, and have substantially longer to go for safety.

Applies to Bretagne, Cornwall and Devon too. Not to speak of the Portugese and Galician coasts, they will be wiped out.


1/3rd of big island hawaii is volcanic shelf (lava flow to the sea, hardens when it hits the water and forms lip, repeated flows extend the shelf). various reports of cracks widening at the point where the shelf joins the supported part of the island. predictions that when the volcanic shelf goes ... the wave will at least take out san diego.

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:30:58 -0400
hancock4 writes:
In general terms, I don't think optimizing a software price is different than other products or services.

The high front end cost has to paid back--usually by amortizing it over a period of time.

Indeed, before developing a software product, one should estimate (as best as possible) what the market for it will be and develop the product accordingly. To cheap a product with very limited features might not so very well, and too comprehensive a product might to be too expensive.

If someone released IBM's Writing Assistant today, they'd be laughed at, but at the time it came out--usable on an 8088 or 286--it was a very good product.

Of course, once the product is written, tested, and packaged, then the actual selling price will be based on market demand. But even there, there are still some cost issues. If the product is hugely successful, demand might outpace the ability of packaging and distribution, so a premium price to reduce demand might be in order.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#56 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

software costs are nearly all upfront ... production costs are nearly zero ... there are all sorts of games that can be played with things like tiered pricing. There might be analogy with cut-price for day-old bread ... already produced and will otherwise be discarded with no revenue at all ... or flying standby for last minute empty seats on airline.

In any case, IBM has a new generation of executives:

A View from Beneath the Dancing Elephant: Rediscovering IBM's Corporate Constitution (Peter E. Greulich) loc1423-25:
Tivoli Configuration Manager (TCM). Its target audience was Fortune 2000 customers, and it was successful: twenty-six of IBM's largest customers used TCM to manage more than a hundred thousand endpoints each, and it permeated IBM's installed accounts--more than sixteen hundred customers.

loc1427-28:
But it was falling behind the competition. The sales force was asking for new functionality and a lighter, more usable product because the hardware and management costs were too high. We started seeing losses to Microsoft, whose product was scaling.

loc1431-33:
The meeting to discuss the project was short. The development director said, "TCM is a cash cow. Why should I spend money on a product that is nothing but pure profit?" He believed that products in this market were commodities with low margins, and should be left to others to waste their profits on. We never convinced him otherwise. ... snip ...

... until TCM was obsolete.

separate but different Tivoli story. I had done cmsback originally for internal installations ... and it went through a couple releases ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback
and past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup

finally an enhanced version that included non-mainframe clients was released as workstation datasave facility (WDSF). Later as IBM was being reorged for splitting up into the 13 "baby blues" (eventually gerstner was brought in and reversed the splitup and resurrect the company), the disk division was one of the furthest along ... having been rebranded as adstar. WDSF got enhancements and rebranded as ADSM (adstar storage manager). Eventually the disk division (adstar) was sold off ... but some number of software products were transferred to the Tivoli group ... and ADSM was rebranded to Tivoli Storage Manager.
http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/tivostormana/

Note in the following it doesn't list z/VM (current vm/cms) support at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Tivoli_Storage_Manager

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A computer at home?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A computer at home?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:56:56 -0400
"gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:
Yes, it is serial, but it is far more powerful than both the serial and parallel ports previously fitted, because it encompasses a protocol, that does things such as identifying what's connected to the other end.

note in the mid-90s, there were several presentations at banking conferences by dial-up consumer online banking about moving to the internet and the primary motivation was the significant costs of supporting serial-port dialup modems for their proprietary online banking systems ... basically offloading that consumer support onto ISPs.

at the same time, the dial-up commercial/cash-management online banking would say that they would never move to the internet because of a long list of security issues (most that continue to this day; however most of these operations have moved to the internet despite the security issues).

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking

note around the turn of the century, there was a large deployment in the US of consumer security chipcards (as part of existing payment card) ... along with free give-away of hardware token reader. they apparently had gotten a fire sale on obsolete serial-port token readers for the give-away (serial port being replaced by USB) ... which resulted in so many consumer problems (including consumers having to re-install systems from scratch) that the effort was abandoned and rapidly spreading opinion in the finance industry that hardware tokens weren't practical in the consumer market. however, the real problem was the serial-port token readers ... not the chipcard ... but it wasn't possible to reverse the industry perception. The financial industry institutional knowledge about serial-port issues had apparently evaporated in a short five-year period (one of the objectives for USB replacing serial-port was to eliminate all the configuration conflicts epidemic with serial-port).

my wife had put together some joint meetings with financial industry, the PC/SC group in redmond and the kernel security group in redmond as part of an attempt to figure out how the unfortunate mis-perception might be reversed ... but nothing practical emerged.

In the 2nd half of the 90s, EU had created the FINREAD standard that was targeted at addressing most of personal computing security issues ... but it included a hardened endpoint with hardware token (issues that couldn't be addressed with just a hardware token ... included a display that couldn't be compromised and a keypad that couldn't be spoofed). The EU FINREAD standard was part of the collatrial damage from the serial-port token reader deployment disaster. some past posts mentioning EU finread standard:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread

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A computer at home?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A computer at home?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:42:26 -0400
hancock4 writes:
I'm confused--the bank's computers will need some sort of communications front-end hardware and comm lines regardless if it's dialup modems or Internet connections. Maybe Internet connections might be a little simpler and more maintainable than individual lines and modems, but I don't think the savings would be that much.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#59 A computer at home?

the issue wasn't at the bank's backend ... although with internet, they could replace huge bank of modems with couple large routers. The problem was with the proprietary online banking software running on the consumers' machines.

At the time, the consumer online banking was providing proprietary software and modem drivers for their customers. typical service would have well over 60 different modem drivers, for different modems, for different operating systems, for different releases of operating systems, etc

there was significant amount of money being spent on managing all the proprietary consumer software (running on consumer machines) as well as enormous amount of money for consumer support trying to help consumers get the right version of software installed ... and avoid getting into situation where they had to reinstall their system from scratch. there was also significant problems with serial port IRQ interrept conflicts. move to the internet effectively eliminated this enormous effort for desig, development, support, maintenance and operation of software on the consumers' machines.

there was also an image problem ... anything that went wrong ... including the frequent cases of having to reinstall systems from scratch ... was blamed on the financial institution. move to the internet ... all those issues became associated with the ISP ... not the financial institution.

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking

this was all offloaded onto ISPs to deal with. then as internet use become more & more pervasive ... vendors started shipping machines with modems pre-installed, configured and software preloaded ... which somewhat mitigated the problems (i.e. vendors weren't going to preinstall for every machine for large number of different proprietary online banking systems ... but they would preinstall/configure for ubiquitous internet use).

then USB came along which drastically simplified the whole serial-port configuration mess ... including eliminating serial-port IRQ conflicts that could stop a system from running.

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A computer at home?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A computer at home?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:21:44 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
Did they mandate some form of X.25 support?

I wonder, because _all_ the POS and ATM equipment sold in northern Europe until around 2009 ran X.25. All of it. ISPs had some small cisco router that turned it into XOT, and it ran over the Internet. 1% of total NIX traffic as late as 2002.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#59 A computer at home?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#60 A computer at home?

i've mentioned before we were called in to consult with small client/server startup because they wanted to do payment transactions on their server; they had also invented this technology they wanted to use ... and part of the effort was mapping this technology they called "SSL" to the payment business processes. The result is now frequently called "electronic commerce".

It somewhat came about ... because two of the people mentioned in this meeting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

had left and were at the startup responsbile for something called the "commerce server". As I've mentioned before, shortly after the above meeting, cluster scaleup (we were working on for commercial, scientific, numeric intensive, DBMS, filesystems, etc) was transferred, announced as supercomputer for scientific and technical *ONLY* ... and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors ... which played a major factor in our deciding to leave also. some old email from the period

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa and various past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

which then led into doing "electornic commerce".

Now part of "electronic commerce" was payment gateway ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#payment

which sat between the internet and the payment gateway ... handling payment transactions between internet "commerce webservers" and payment processor backends.

To simplify things a protocol used by major player in the T&E industry was used by the payment gateway to the payment backends. This was software that ran on PC gateway at large T&E location (say large hotel/casino/resturant in las vagas) handling multiple different concurrent payment transactions over x.25 link to payment backend. For the payment gateway, the software was redone on multiple, clustered unix boxes in high availability configurations. Then SSL transaction session support was added to talk to the webservers on the internet (as opposed to large number of PCs and POS terminals that might be large T&E establishment).

One of my biggest problems was that the payment infrastructure was accustomed to handling 5min 1st level trouble response between the payment backend to the establishment over the x.25 link. Now the x.25 link was short hop over to the payment gateway and it was SSL out to the establishment. The vast majority of my time was spent securing the payment gateways ... and extending the sophisticated x.25 circuit-based problem diagnostic out through the internet.

That was topic drift ... EU FINREAD was connection into consumer PC ... assuming transactions that would be done over the internet .. designed to address many of the internet-based spoofing issues doing things like fraudulent financial and banking transactions ... as well as a compromised PC running various sort of viruses/trojans/malware.

the actual transaction was done in the FINREAD terminal ... the transaction data was transmitted to the FINREAD terminal and displayed on the FINREAD termianl (countermeasure to compromised PC where a transaction is displayed on the screen, but a totally different transaction is about to be done). The FINREAD termainl interacts with a secure chipcard for authenticaiton ... with pin physically entered on the FINREAD pinpad (countermeasure to compromised PC where it can keylog pins, and then spoof pin entry for transactions that the user has no knowledge of). A human in-the-loop is required for FINREAD interaction and can't be counterfeited by malware running in compromised PC.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread

somewhat because of doing "electronic commerce", in the mid-90s we were asked to participate in the x9a10 financial standard working group which had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for ALL retail payments. the result was x9.59 financial transaction standard which eliminated a vast variety of POS, unattended, attended, electronic, internet, etc fraud.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959

However, by itself, it could still be subject to malware in compromised PC counterfeiting human operation. EU FINREAD went a long ways towards addressing those problems with a slight issue ... the transaction authorizing institution had no proof that a EU FINREAD termainal was actually being used. We slightly extended x9.59 standard to provide option for two authentications (somewhat analogous two signature requirement on checks). There would be a users tamper resistant secure chipcard for one authentication ... but there could also be a tamper resistant secure FINREAD chip ... where both would authenticate the transaction. We then asked that the EU FINREAD standard be extended to allow a tamper resistant secure chip be part of a FINREAD terminal. Then the authorizing financial institution would have a higher level of confidence that it wasn't a fraudulent transaction.

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A computer at home?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A computer at home?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:47:02 -0400
hancock4 writes:
But why couldn't they standardize on the common interface in use at the time, that most BBS's of the era managed to use? I think one common program was Telix, but there were others.

While it was text based, I think a reasonable user-friendly interface could've been provided.

At the time, computers were so new that some user support would've been necessary, even if GUI web browsers were available. We take them for granted today, but there was a learning curve at the beginning.

The systems could've started off simple with the most common inquiry responses--balance in checking, most recent checks and deposits. A users and the banks gained more experience, more functions could've been added.

As to modems, didn't the world standardize on the Haynes protocol set?

Proprietary software seems like a bad idea, especially given the low speed of modems and computers back then. I remember a service called Prodigy, which required its own software and ran terribly slowly--so slow and limited to be useless. (Downloading an article produced a heavilly edited brief document, of limited value).

I think Compuserve managed to use the basic modem interface.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#59 A computer at home?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#60 A computer at home?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#61 A computer at home?

many of these guys had started a decade before ... possibly a single kind modem and DOS on single kind of machine with fixed serial-port IRQ. things snowballed over the years with more platforms, different releases, more modems, etc. there would be a large diverse customer set ... and even some still using the same machine from decade earlier (and tremendous problems if they happened to upgrade their system).

by the mid-90s the industry decided to standardize ... and did it by moving to the internet & browsers (which opened up an large can of security worms). besides eliminating enormous amount of proprietary software and consumer support problems ... the numerous serial-port hardware problems became the ISPs' problems (and not blamed on the bank).

posts mentioning dialup banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking

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Cloud Wars: Now Even the CIA Slams IBM's Technology

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Cloud Wars: Now Even the CIA Slams IBM's Technology
Date: 22 July 2014
Blog: IBMers
Cloud Wars: Now Even the CIA Slams IBM's Technology
http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2014/5/23/cloud-wars-now-even-the-cia-slams-ibms-technology.html

last week I hadn't posted anything for a day or so and then posted the DRUCKENMILLER ref
http://www.businessinsider.com/stan-druckenmiller-on-ibm-2014-7
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#29 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

a few minutes later ... this message started showing up on all my linkedin group pages:
Your posts across groups are being moderated temporarily because one of your recent contributions was marked as spam or flagged for not being relevant. Learn more.

... snip ...

I then posted the "Cloud Wars" URL ... which then disappeared into suspended animation for days.

there are periodic articles about large corporations attempting to blunt negative references on social media in various ways ... including hiring professional organizations that specialize in such stuff. it isn't just limited to large corporations ... the wikipedia wars periodically has gotten exposure ... especially after twitter app that watches for edits/changes and broadcasts the originating ip-address (things like politicians repeatedly removing critical news references and substituting puff pieces).

IBM had earlier gained wide spread reputation for something similar with the FUD practices by sales&marketing. This was especially finely honed in the early and mid seventies during the Future System period. FS was going to completely replace 370s and internal politics was suspending and/or killing off 370 product activity ... then with the demise of FS there was mad rush to rejuvenate the 370 product pipelines. The lack of products during this period left sales&marketing with little else but FUD to fall back onto (the lack of products during this period is also credited with giving the 370 clone processor vendors a market foothold).

FS also represented major IBM culture change ... from "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World" Ferguson & Morris on failure of Future System:
... and perhaaps most damaging, the old culture under Watson Snr and Jr of free and vigorous debate was replaced with sycophancy and make no waves under Opel and Akers. It's claimed that thereafter, IBM lived in the shadow of defeat:

... and:
But because of the heavy investment of face by the top management, F/S took years to kill, although its wrong headedness was obvious from the very outset. "For the first time, during F/S, outspoken criticism became politically dangerous," recalls a former top executive.
... snip ...

posts mentioning FS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

recent posts mentioning IBM FUD:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#44 Resistance to Java
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#25 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#37 Sale receipt--obligatory?

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The Mystery of Flight MH17: Motives, Missiles, Flight Plans, and the Media

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Mystery of Flight MH17: Motives, Missiles, Flight Plans, and the Media
Date: 23 July 2014
Blog: Google+
re (actually from the 20th)
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/igsfRHqLCHV

The Mystery of Flight MH17: Motives, Missiles, Flight Plans, and the Media
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/mystery-flight-mh17-motives-missiles-flight-plans-media.html

following took about 30mins, crash site location, rocket ranges, map radius drawing app, map of rebel region

s11 radius 6m high target approx 19miles

s17 radius 6m high target approx 27miles

crash location 48.132222 38.655278 ... the following will draw circle around map location (decimal)
http://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm

nearly all of the above in rebel controlled area (s17 radius extends slightly into russia)

several accounts that rebels had buk ground-to-air system approx. 8miles from crash site, a little south & east of flt path (coming in from west gov. controlled area, through rebel area, about to enter russia

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New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune
Date: 24 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
New Military Gear Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune; There's a better way to develop high-tech systems
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/new-military-gear-doesnt-have-to-cost-a-fortune-368c7a0b4084

By the late 60s, it was realized that troubled software efforts tended to acquire large bloated ineffectual bureaucracies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until possibly late '85 or early '86) in the late 70s and early 80s. Discussions included large amount about what worked and what didn't work in software projects. It is possible that many of the large bloated ineffectual bureaucracies didn't happen on purpose ... but once in place they tended to take on a life of their own and would do everything possible to preserve their status quo (top executives especially interested in preserving their bloated compensation as part of heading up such a large bloated organization).

I recently related story about being brought into the largest airline reservation system to look at their ten impossible things. It turns out they were stuck in paradigm from the 60s that made lots of trade-offs based on the technology at the time (including large organization manually preconditioning data to minimize use of scarce computer resources). In two months I was able to do a completely different implementation that included doing all ten impossible things and ran approx. 100 times faster (based on changing the paradigm and using 90s technologies). It then ran into an organizational brickwall because the implementation effectively eliminated the requirement for existing nearly 1000 people organization.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.arch/wc9q1GriToc/tJcRFWEp_vUJ
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#53 transactions, was There Is Still Hope

Now military-industrial complex have been using computer gaming for finding winning strategies and campaigns ... but they have also been able to leverage the same technology for strategies that maximize profits ... Success of Failure
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/
posts mentioning Success of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

Related is the "Cyber Dumb" theme ... which includes letting secrets/advantages leak ... along with cyber becoming increasingly dominant component of almost everything ... which can overlap with Spinney's theme of military-industrial complex using all sorts of strategies to maximize financial benefit. perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

ThinThread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread
ThinThread
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/12/19/whistleblowers-vindicated-as-presidential-review-group-recommends-alternative-to-nsa-vacuuming-data/
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
https://news.yahoo.com/three-former-employees-became-nsa-critics-163808602.html
Director shelves working $3M ThinThread for multi-billion dollar Trailblazer that doesn't work
http://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe
Trailblazer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project
now Turbulence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbulence_%28NSA%29

Army Intelligence System Pulled from Key Test
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/07/22/army-intelligence-system-pulled-from-key-test.html

recent "Mythical Man Month" refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#99 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#41 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

recent "cyber dumb" refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#49 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#0 Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#82 The NSA and Snowden: Securing the All-Seeing Eye
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#49 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#12 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#22 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#23 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#28 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#34 UN to Five Eyes nations: Your mass surveillance is breaking the law

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 24 Jul 2014 10:27:58 -0700
0000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
If each ADCON is made relative to a location in the module (paired relocation), the entire module is location-independent and can be mapped to any location in various address spaces. I know of no z/OS facility to exploit such a design for general programs.

I understand the convention has been used for transient areas.


tss/360 (& tss/370) had a different convention for handling address constants that allowed for same module to appear concurrently at different addresses in different virtual address spaces.

... in the early 70s when I first did paged mapped filesystem for cp67/cms (and then ported to vm370/cms) ... I had enormous problems with the OS/360 adcon convention ... because CMS made heavy use of os/360 compilers and software conventions. periodic past tirades on the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon

one of the people responsible for HASP ... then did a page-mapped filesystem for MFT-II (that he called RASP). Old reference to when it was decided to add virtual memory to MVT ... both the cp67/cms and the MFT-II/RASP work was ignored ... past post on the subject (I was asked to track down somebody that was involved in the decision ... some of his comments):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory

note the basic original decision was that MVT memory management was so inefficient that (on the avg) only 25% of allocated storage was typically used. adding virtual memory to MVT would allow running 16 initiators on a 1mbyte physical machine (that would ordinarily require 4mbytes, just another on my long list of if you can't figure out how to fix the software, throw hardware at it).

note reference also has comments about OS/VS2 release 1 (SVS) and OS/VS2 release 2 (MVS) being on the glide-path to OS/VS2 release 3 ... the operating system for "Future System" that would completely replace 370 ... some past FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 24 Jul 2014 10:53:03 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

a little more topic drift. part of the MVT storage allocation issues was with contiguous storage allocation.

quite a few customers were convinced to order 360/67 (very similar to 360/65 but with the addition of virtual memory) to run with tss/360.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSS/360

above has references to TSS/360 supporting position independent code.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon

while tss/360 had lots of novel new stuff ... it never quite reached production quality ... so almost all customers run it with something else. lots of them just used it as 360/65 running os/360.

however, the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

ported cp40 to it for cp67 ... cp40 had originally been done on 360/40 with special hardware modification to support virtual memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

Unif of Mich ... did MTS ... later migrated to 370 (and some number of other univ. ran)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Terminal_System

Stanford did Orvyl (where Wylbur originates).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR

Boeing Huntsville got a 360/67 duplex which they ran as two separate systems with os/360. They original had gotten 360/67 for operating long-running 2250 graphic display jobs. They modified the 2nd release of MVT (os/360) for limited virtual memory support ... didn't do any paging ... same amount of virtual memory as real memory ... but capable of re-arranging memory to compensate for long running os/360 jobs resulting in storage fragmentation (using address translation, they could re-org memory addresses to get around a lot of MVT storage fragmentation).

note that CICS had similar problems with OS/360 ... but addressed it by grabbing glob of storage and running its own scheduling, dispatching, memory management, and other system services ... to get around problems with base OS/360 services. Boeing Huntsville needed much of os/360 system services with lots of different long running 2250 graphic display tasks.

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 24 Jul 2014 13:37:18 -0700
dba@LISTS.DUDA.COM (David Andrews) writes:
That tickles a neuron. Was there not a "RASP" component to OS/VS1 JES?

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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

RASP was virtual memory & virtual filesystem for MFT-II.

the person responsible left and was hired by one of the large clone processor companies where he re-implemented it from scratch. even though IBM wasn't going to do anything with it ... they still sued the clone company (for lifting ibm code) and the court had people do detail review of the new code. Foklore is that possibly only 2-3 trivial sequences of code were found that could be considered similar.

I don't have any recollection of RASP in OS/VS1 JES. I do remember talking to the JES2 group about enhancing shared spool.

There were a huge amount of enhancements to VM370 for the internal world-wide sales&marketing support HONE system (very little shipping to customers because corporate hdqtrs was constantly trying to kill off vm370) ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

part of this was cluster, single-system-image system ... at one time the US HONE datacenter in silicon valley had the largest single-system-image operation in the world, load balancing and fall-over/recovery across all the machines in the complex. The closest thing that came to it was ACP/TPF loosely-coupled operation ... but at the time ACP/TPF didn't have tightly-coupled support ... while VM370 had SMP support ... so could have max. loosely-coupled configuration of max. sized tightly coupled CECs.

Standard OS/360 and ACP/TPF had started out using shared device reserve CCW, then do the I/O channel program, then do device release CCW. ACP/TPF got a special RPQ for 3830 disk controller "logical locking" ... that used memory in the 3830 allowing definition of logical locks ... for serializing logical operations w/o going through the overhead device reserve/release. The problem cropped up tho with string-switch architecture where multiple different 3830s had concurrent access to the same disk, lock memory in one 3830 wouldn't be consistent with lock memory in another 3830 for the same logical operation.

The HONE system for loosely-coupled shared disk operation used a CKD "compare-and-swap" CCW sequence (one of the rare cases where CKD actually proved some benefit over FBA). Data was read from disk, updated in memory ... and a "search data equal" CCW (aka compare) was used ... if it didn't match, it failed ... however if it succeeded it would do a write operation.

Note: later in the early 80s, HONE extended its cluster SSI across geographically separated datacenters, with a 2nd datacenter in Dallas and then a 3rd datacenter in Boulder.

Had some meetings with people from JES2 group about enhancing JES2 shared spool to also utilize compare-and-swap CCW sequence.

other trivia, Charlie had invented compare-and-swap instruction when he was working on fine grain multiprocessor locking for cp67 at the science cneter (mnemonic chosen because CAS are his initials). Attempts to get it into 370 architecture were initially rebuffed because the POK favorite son operating system people claimed that test&set was sufficient. Challenge was in order to get compare-and-swap into 370, had to come up with non-multiprocessor uses (examples still are included in principles of operation). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

past posts mentioning aspen (clone vendor's name for rasp):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#69 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#35 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#63 Hercules and System/390 - do we need it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#37 A Glimpse into PC Development Philosophy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#44 hasp, jes, rasp, aspen, gold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#26 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#27 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#26 Old PCs--environmental hazard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#24 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#28 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#69 Operating systems are old and busted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#44 someone smarter than Dave Cutler

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:39:31 -0400
Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes:
The specs for FS were totally insane, for the technology available at the time (Motorola 10K ECL or any equivalent). So, should FS have been canceled as it could NEVER reach the goal, or kept alive, as it would have been a very powerful machine? Was it an all-out attempt to make a supercomputer which would sell maybe less than a dozen units? Or, was it the basis of the next generation of IBM mainframes?

The 370 series was a practical architecture, although the performance of some of the lower models seems like it must have been intentionally crippled to not interfere with the /15x and /16x machine.


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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

FS specs had a lot of blue sky ideas ... some of them not even having any idea about how they might be implemented. since it was suppose to completely replace 370 ... internal politics during the period was suspended and/or killing off 370 efforts. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

some other refs:

Discussion of old FS evaluation
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
FS description and discussion
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html
wiki entry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project

FS design/architecture was divided into something like 13 sections/areas. My wife worked for head of one of the sections and had some responsibility for dealing with other sections ... and was repeatedly surprised/astounded by the lack of any substance backing up some of their fantasies.

part of FS was sort of object with potentially five levels of indirection (& storage access; aka an "hardware" ADD instruction which would handle whether the operands were decimal, floating point, integer, etc ... or even the same). one of the final nails in FS coffin was study by the (IBM) Houston science center ... that if a FS machine was made out of the fastest available hardware ... and an application from 370/195 was moved over to it ... it would have throughput of 370/145 (about factor of 30 times slowdown).

another feature was it was to be "single level store" architecture ... somewhat carried over from tss/360. at the univ. I got to play with cp67/cms on weekends and sometimes had to share the machine with IBM SE playing with TSS/360. At one point we did synthetic benchmark for Fortran edit, compile, link and execute. I got better throughput and interactive response for 35 simulated users on cp67/cms than he did for four simulated users on tss/360 (with exact same hardware). I've periodically claimed that a lot of what i did for cp67/cms paged-mapped filesystem in the early 70s took into account of "what not to do" from observing tss/360 (i could easily get three times the native cp67/cms filesystem throughput). this contributed to my references to periodically ridiculing the FS efforts (and continued to work on 360 and then moving to vm370/cms ... during the FS period). posts mentions doing cp67/cms paged-mapped filesystem
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
also part of recent discussion over in ibm-main
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

This goes into major motivation for FS was countermeasure to clone controllers ... that FS would have such tight integration between processor and controllers that it would make it extremely difficult for clones to keep up (but much of the actual specification to accomplish that was totally lacking)
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07
other posts mentioning clone controller work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

A related subject is the end of ACS/360 (which also gets into tiered processor performance)
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

mentions that it was killed because management was afraid that it would advance the state of the art too fast and they would loose control of the market. at the end of above, it goes into some of acs/360 features finally showing up more than 20yrs later in es/9000.

the person responsible leaves and starts his own clone processor company. accounts of the lack of 370 products during the FS period is then credited with giving clone processors a market foothold. This recent post (in this thread) mentions that it was initially with univ. & scientific ... before breaking into the true blue commercial market.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

the folklore is that some of the FS people retreat to Rochester and do the system/38 ... significantly simplifying a lot of FS features ... and not having to worry about throughput in the market that they were selling to. For instance one of the simplifications was that they treated all connected disks as a common storage pool for single system filesystem (with any file potentially having scatter allocation across all available disks). As a result, everything had to be backed up as an integral whole. A common failure of the time was single disk failure ... but because of the common storage pool paradigm ... the one disk would be replaced ... and then a complete system restore would be needed (could easily take 24hrs elapsed time).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/38
and
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/rochester/rochester_4009.html

the followon was as/400 which was replacement for s/34, s/36 and s/38 (and dropped some of the s/38 FS features).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_i

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Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:35:53 -0400
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
Well, the AS/400 and such did appear to include some of the features and philosophy associated with the Future System. So, while FS was too ambitious for its time, some of its basic ideas were sound enough to be worth keeping.

The IBM 360/85, despite performing well, thanks to cache, was a poor seller, but that didn't stop the 370/165 and the 3033 from being based on its microarchitecture.

It's wasteful to throw stuff away if it can still be used.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

FS threw in nearly every idea from computer & academic literature of the period ... even if they had absolutely no idea what it met and/or how to implement (little or nothing original with FS). It is not surprising that some of it was eventually made to work (on the other hand, lots of it would never work ... but they had little idea had to differentiate the two, goes way beyond "too ambitious for its time")

165 to 168 was moving from 2mic memory to less than 1/2mic memory and optimizing the microcode so they reduced 370 instruction emulation from 2.1 machine cycles to 1.6 machine cycles per 370 instruction.

168-1 to 168-3 was doubling the cache size from 16kbytes to 32kbytes.

168-3 to 3033 started out being 168-3 design mapped to 20% faster chips ... some other stuff eventually got 3033 up to 1.5times the 168-3.

note that both 3033 and 3081 were concurrently, part of the mad rush after the failure of Future System, to get stuff back into 370 product pipeline (using warmed over 370 technology) ... more here (and compared poorly with clone processors):
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

note that all during this period the manufacturing costs for 370/158 was at the knee of the (POK high-end) cost/performance curve. it was one reason why the 370/158 engine was selected for the 303x channel director.

however, the 4341 using even newer technology came in at even lower better knee of the manufacturing cost/performance curve. while 4341 wasn't individually faster than 3033 ... clusters of 4341 beat 3033 on every metic (aggregate performance, floor space, price/performance, environmentals, etc). at one point the head of pok was so threatened by 4341 threat to 3033 that at one point, he managed to get the allocation of a critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half.

clusters of 4341s beat 3033 in datacenters ... as well as being the leading edge of distributed computing tsunami ... large corporations installing hundreds at a time out in departmental areas (departmental conference rooms inside ibm became a scarce commodity because of being taken over by 4341s).

old 4300 email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx

i've periodically commented that John may have done 801/risc to be the exact opposite of FS complexity ... including FS high level abstraction with enormous processing required in the microcode below the instruction interface (including large number of storage references to resolve each instruction operand, aka the reference building FS machine out of 370/195 technology results in factor of 30 times slowdown). Now almost every production architecture is either RISC or CISC with hardware level layer that translates instructions into RISC micro-ops for actual execution.

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 25 Jul 2014 07:09:05 -0700
sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
z/VM performs such magic in at least three different ways: Discontiguous Saved Segments, Named Saved Systems, and VM Data Spaces. These mechanisms are probably somewhat relevant to z/OS when it operates as a z/VM guest.

I hate to disagree with Jim Mulder. :-) But I'm going to disagree with his absolute "No." Specifically and as an example, Java on z/OS does some interesting things with shared memory that, in my view, fit the question as stated.


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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

having continued to work on 370 all during the FS period ... even periodically ridiculing FS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

... when FS failed, there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines (during FS which was to totally replace 370, lots of 370 activity was suspended &/or killed, lack of 370 products during the period was credited with giving clone processors a market foothold) ... which contributed to decision to release lots of the stuff that I had been doing ... some old email:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

an extremely small subset of the page-mapped filesystem stuff was released as discontiguous saved segments. part of the issue was that FS was going to be paged-mapped filesystem as single-level-store ... but done so very badly that it gave paged-mapped filesystem a bad name. so a lot of work that I had done on cms code to have it run in shared segments was released ... but a drasticly reduced subset of the CP & CMS support (w/o paged mapped filesystem support) was released as discontiguous saved segments. some related recent discussion over in a.f.c.:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

Part of the issue was that FS single-level-store was somewhat brought over from tss/360 w/o any performance improvements. I mentioned as undergraduate I got to play with cp67/cms on weekends sometimes sharing the 360/67 with IBM SE playing with tss/360. We both did the same synthetic benchmark workload for fortran edit, compile, link & execute. I could show 35 simulated cp67/cms user test that had better throughput and response than he did with 4 simulated tss/360 user test. I claimed when I did the cms paged-mapped filesystem, I had learned all the stuff not to do from watching tss/360. With cms paged-mapped filesystem that had three times the throughput of the standard cms filesystem (on same disks and hardware). However, it wasn't enough to overcome the prejudice resulting from the FS failure.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

as an aside ... I also felt a little rivalry with the multics group one floor up in 545 tech sq ... which was also a virtual memory paged mapped filesystem.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

Multics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

from above:
Multics implemented a single level store for data access, discarding the clear distinction between files (called segments in Multics) and process memory. The memory of a process consisted solely of segments which were mapped into its address space. To read or write to them, the process simply used normal CPU instructions, and the operating system took care of making sure that all the modifications were saved to disk. In POSIX terminology, it was as if every file was mmap()ed; however, in Multics there was no concept of process memory, separate from the memory used to hold mapped-in files, as Unix has. All memory in the system was part of some segment, which appeared in the file system; this included the temporary scratch memory of the process, its kernel stack, etc.

... snip ...

some of the CTSS people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

had gone to the 5th flr and multics ... others had gone to the IBM science center on 4th flr and did cp40 (later morphs into cp67 and then vm370), internal network, lots of performance and online stuff, as well as the technology used for the internal network and corporate sponsored univ. BITNET. GML was also invented at the science center in 1969 (a decade later morphs into international standard SGML, and another decade morphs into HTML at CERN).

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Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:37:01 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

related post this morning over in ibm-main
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#71 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

mentioning single-level-store (not just s/38) ... both tss/360 and this multics reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics

from above:
Multics implemented a single level store for data access, discarding the clear distinction between files (called segments in Multics) and process memory. The memory of a process consisted solely of segments which were mapped into its address space. To read or write to them, the process simply used normal CPU instructions, and the operating system took care of making sure that all the modifications were saved to disk. In POSIX terminology, it was as if every file was mmap()ed; however, in Multics there was no concept of process memory, separate from the memory used to hold mapped-in files, as Unix has. All memory in the system was part of some segment, which appeared in the file system; this included the temporary scratch memory of the process, its kernel stack, etc.

... snip ...

the s/38 common filesystem pool scaled poorly ... just having to save/restore all data as single integral whole, was barely tolerable with a few disks ... but large mainframe system with 300 disks would require days for the operation.

other recent posts mentioning s/38
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#11 Mac at 30: A love/hate relationship from the support front
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#68 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#84 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#75 Bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#76 assembler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#48 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#50 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#53 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#96 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#97 IBM architecture, was Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#9 With hindsight, what would you have done?

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:27:55 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
Trying to back up everything on disk would be a huge waste of time besides being useless for an actual restore. We needed to run our daily application cycles to completion, then back up the application. This would not necessarily take place all at once. Each application got backed up.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

common failure mode was single disk failure. because of scatter allocation ... all files could have pieces across all disks ... a single disk failure resulted in impacting *ALL* files ... required restoring everything from scratch just to get a running system ... all system files and all user files (nothing could be salvaged from non-failed disks since arbitrary file pieces would be missing).

guy that i sometimes worked with when I got to play disk engineer over in bldgs 14/15
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

filed original patent for raid in 1977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

i never actually operated s/38 ... but was told several times that the operational restore problems for s/38 with single disk failure was sufficiently traumatic that it motivated s/38 to ship the first raid support.

other posts in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:44:40 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
So, I guess we're destined to never see single level storage on a large scale system. Even if AS/400 users manage to get by.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

problem wasn't directly single level storage ... it was that s/38 simplified the infrastructure management by treating all disks as a common allocation pool ... and just doing scatter allocation.

also RAID can go a long way to masking single disk failures.

vm370 spool had a similar/analogous problem ... doing scatter allocation and treating all spool areas as common pool. thi wasn't bad for early configurations with spool on single disk ... but increasingly became a problem as configurations scaled up. if any disk failed ... all spool files were lost. vm370 spool had other issues, it had checkpoint for clean shutdown ... allowing relative fast restart. However, if it did have clean shutdown, it required a warm restart ... which could require 30-60 minutes for large configuration ... and while vm370 would do automatic restart in well under 5mins normally ... it waited on spool being up before restart finished ... so system was unavailable during long warm restart.

i've mentioned before that I had a throughput issue in HSDT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt
old hsdt email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#hsdt

with vm370 spool because vm370 RSCS/VNET used spool for storage. It used a synchronous 4k (page) block read/write interface ... so was serialized while it waiting for disk transfer. With other activity in system also using spool system, RSCS/VNET might be limited to 5-8 4k block transfer/sec (20k-30k/sec, something that might be with a couple full-duplex 56kbit links). HSDT had multiple full-duplex T1 (and faster) links (and while supporting TCP/IP, also ran RSCS/VNET) ... a full-duplex T1 requires 300kbytes/sec sustained.

So for HSDT, i decided to rewrite spool to allow RSCS/VNET to get upwards of 1mbyte/sec-3mbyte/sec spool sustained throughput. This required asynchronous 4k block transfer interface ... with contiguous allocation, multiple block transfers, write behind and read aheads. Contiguous allocation had option for drive affinity (all blocks on same disk). I also did mechanism so vm370 could be up and available before spool file recovery was complete ... and warm start ran enormously faster (in case of non-clean checkpoint). Also supported moving all data off target drive concurrent running of live system as part of taking drive offline for maintenance as well as adding drives on the fly (somewhat akin later done for some hardware RAID subsystems as part recovery).

this is old email trying to get the spool changes into the internal network "backbone" nodes that were starting to have multiple 56kbit links. however, at this time, the communication group was on a misinformation campaign to convince the corporation to covernt the internal network to SNA (internal network meetings change to exclude technical people and only involve management)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email8703006

other old vnet/rscc email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

past internal network posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

I did majority of spool changes writing in vs/pascal running in virtual address spaces ... and with some slight of hand programming tricks ... pathlength ran faster than assembler code running as part of kernel ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#43 Migrating pages from a paging device (was Re: removal of paging device)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#44 PDP-10 Archive migration plan
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#26 Microkernels are not "all or nothing". Re: Multics Concepts For
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#63 SPXTAPE status from REXX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#19 HERCULES
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#3 History of C
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#38 Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#28 MVCIN instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#35 Charging Time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#21 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#45 The Complete April Fools' Day RFCs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#63 Operating Systems for Virtual Machines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#12 Calling ::routines in oorexx 4.0
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#26 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#35 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#25 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#29 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#18 VM Workshop 2012
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#23 VM Workshop 2012
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#24 Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#91 rebuild 1403 printer chain

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A computer at home?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: A computer at home?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:36:50 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
I don't think the 145 did, but some systems had integrated DASD controllers.

from ga22-7-4 370 system summary
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/370/systemSummary/GA22-7001-4_370_System_Summary_Dec75.pdf

integrated file adapter 135
2319 and/or 3330/3340-series Integrated File Adapter (IFAj: Each feature permits disk storage units to attach to the Model 135 without a separate control unit or channel. The 2319 IFA controls as many as eight disk drives, and the 3330/3340-series IF A attaches as many as sixteen disk drives. Via the optional intermix feature, 3330-series drives can be mixed with 3340 drives on the same IF A. Both the 2319 IFA and the 3330/3340-series IFA can be attached to the same system if the system has the IF A conversion feature installed.

itegrated file adatper 145
Integrated File Adapter (for 3145 Models GE, GFD, H, HG, and I): This feature, assigned exclusive use of selector channels 1 and 4, incorporates a file control unit for controlling three to eight drives of natively attached disk storage. This control unit attaches the three-drive 2319 Disk Storage Model AI. Additionally attachable, to a maximum of five drives, are the single-drive 2312-Al, two-drive 2318-Al, three-drive 2319-A2, and four-drive 2313-A1.

... snip ...

115/125 also had "integrated" controllers

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:51:40 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
I understand Multics had this problem originally, and they eventually redesigned the filesystem to fix it.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

reference to cp67/cms crashing & restarting 27 times in single day ... because of the crash and auto system restart (tech sq ... but across the courtyard from 545):
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/360-67.html

from above:
(It is a tribute to the CP/CMS recovery system that we could get 27 crashes in in a single day; recovery was fast and automatic, on the order of 4-5 minutes. Multics was also crashing quite often at that time, but each crash took an hour to recover because we salvaged the entire file system. This unfavorable comparison was one reason that the Multics team began development of the New Storage System.)

... snip ...

i had done ascii/tty terminal support as undergraduate in the 60s which was picked up and distributed as part of standard release. I had done a one byte arithmetic hack (since no terminals supported more than 255 length). Down the road, harvard got some kind of new tty device (i think plotter) that supported line lengths longer than 255 ... USL did quick hack to make the length something like 1200 (or more?) ... but didn't fix the one byte arithmetic ... so lengths were incorrectly calculated resulting in the crashes.

Multics had problem with both salvaging filesystem after crash (something like unix fsck or vm370 spool warm start w/o checkpoint start) ... as well scatter allocation
http://www.multicians.org/nss.html

from above
In the initial design of the Multics file system, disk addresses were assigned in increasing order, as if all the drives of a given device type made up one big disk. We didn't think a lot about this approach, it was just the easiest. One consequence of this address policy was that files tended to have their pages stored on multiple disk drives, and all drives were utilized about equally on average.

... snip ...

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Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis
Date: 25 July 2014
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/SF5MahifdHf

Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/settlements-and-fines-tbtf-institutions-crisis

70 times larger than S&L which had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 convictions, ... this time zero, nada
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/30000-criminal-referrals-led-1000-felony-convictions-major-fraud-cases-sl-crisis-even-single-prosecution-today-even-though-2008-crisis-70-times-bigger.html

posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

recent refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#66 GAO and Wall Street Journal Whitewash Huge Criminal Bank Frauds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#21 Thomas Piketty Is Right About the Past and Wrong About the Future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#84 Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#27 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:18:53 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
z/OS now supports single datasets with extents on multiple volumes. I guess you have to be careful how you do that. That must complicate the process.

z/OS has an enormous list of issues.

it still only supports ckd disks ... which haven't been manufactured for decades ... all being simulated on large (fixed-block) disk subsystems that make extensive use of virtual volumes and raid (with hardware raid responsible for masking single disk failures). the virtual simulated 3390 data organization may have little to do with the actual physical layout on real disks.

the ckd disks simulated are some flavor of 3390 with some slight of hand that supports max. size that tends to be small multiples of real 3390s (but enormously smaller than than the real disks being used) ... 3390 3gb, 9gb, 27gb, and 54gb.

recent 3390 "model A" ... DS8000 release 4 LIC, configuration supports 3390 devices between 1 to 268,434,453 (simulated) 3390 cylinders (max 225tb), z/os v1r10 & v1r11 only supports up to 262,668 max 3390 (simulated) cylinders (223gb).

ds8870 ref
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/disk/ds8000/specifications.html

risc power7 processors, max. 1tbyte memory, up to 3,072TB disk (supporting a variety of real industry standard disks).

I've posted recently about z196 max i/o benchmark that used 104 FICONS to some number of (presumably ds8000) disk subsystems that got 2M IOPS. FICON is a heavy-weight mainframe channel emulation layer built on industry standard fibre channel that enormously reduces the native FCS throughput. About the same time as the z196 benchmark there was announcement of FCS for e5-2600 claiming over million IOPS (two such FCS would have higher throughput than 104 FICON). z196 has other issues, the claim is that max. i/o instruction SSCH/sec is 2.2M with all system support processors (SSPs) running 100% cpu utilization ... but the recommendation for normal operation that SSPs utilization be kept to 70% or less (1.5M SSCH/sec). posts mentioning FICON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

I haven't seen any published benchmarks for the current ec12 ... but ec12 announcement material was it would have only 30% higher i/o throughput than z196.

posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#76 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:23:17 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
IME it was often quicker to back up a whole pack with physical backup rather than several datasets with logical backup.

recent reference to having done cmsback in the late 70s for internal installations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#58 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
some old cmsback email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback
and some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#backup

it went through a couple internal releases and then had support for client platforms ... and released as workstation datasave facility (WDSF).

it did incremental new/changed file backup. internally it started out being used for people that had accidentially erased/corrupted a file or wanted an earlier version of a file. it then started being used to reduce nightly full pack/drive backups to once a week. a single disk failure would restore the most recent full pack/drive backup and then restore latest more recent incremental new/changed files also on the same disk.

it then morphed into ADSM (adstar storage manager) during period where the disk division was reorganized and rebranded in prepartion for spinning off into separate company. gerstner was then brought in ... and he reversed the breakup
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

but then later sold-off the disk division anyway ... at which time some amount of the disk division software was kept and moved into different organization ... ADSM morphing into TSM

posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#76 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#78 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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StarWars

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: StarWars
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:58:43 -0400
greymausg writes:
Completely off-topic, friend motoring home from West Cork was told that the new star-wars movie is to have scenes filmed on the Skelligs islands.

when I first moved to ibm san jose research ... a co-worker told about lucas would show up at san jose astronomy club meetings with outlines of 8 star-war movies for club members to review.

later some former co-workers got jobs at ILM doing early computer controlled visual effects & animation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_%26_Magic

from above:
LM is currently the largest visual effects vendor in the motion picture industry, with regards to workforce, with more than 500 artists. It has one of the largest renderfarms currently available with more than 7500 nodes. Following the restructuring of LucasArts in April 2013, ILM was left overstaffed and the faculty was reduced to serve only ILM's visual effects department.[8][9]

... snip ...

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StarWars

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: StarWars
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:55:20 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
when I first moved to ibm san jose research ... a co-worker told about lucas would show up at san jose astronomy club meetings with outlines of 8 star-war movies for club members to review.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#80 StarWars

he later left and got a gig at apple. there has been some comment that cray used apple to design supercomputers and apple used cray to design mac.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AppleCrayComputer

his apple gig was programming a cray with very high resolution display on a 100mbyte/sec channel ... which had the ability to emulate a wide variety of human factors characteristics ... w/o having to actually build the hardware.

other trivia ... i saw star wars, raiders of lost ark and some number of other movies on the wide screen at century cinemas on winchester
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Theatres
and
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Last-Movie-to-be-Shown-at-San-Jose-Century-Theatres-on-Weekend-252893631.html
and
http://www.savethedome.org/

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 27 Jul 2014 08:17:04 -0700
tim.zielke@AON.COM (Tim Zielke) writes:
4. (Nth time load of a load module into the system by secondary address space B) When loading the module into the virtual address space B and physical memory, make sure any virtual pages for the load module that do not need to be altered for B and were not altered for A point to the same physical frame. These "shared" virtual pages for B will also be marked as copy-on-write. Any future writes to these "shared" virtual pages in address space B will result in B getting its own separate physical frame.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#71 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

the original 370 architecture had r/o protect for shared segments ... however retrofitting virtual memory to 370/165 ran into difficulty and was going to slip virtual memory announce by 6months. a suggestion was made that r/o protect and some other features be dropped to simplify things for the 370/165 implementation. the POK favorite son operating system said they had no reason to use such features.

however, it resulted in enormous problems for vm370/cms which was already implemented to use it. as a result of decision to drop protection for shared pages ... vm370/cms had to do an ugly hack were it fiddled storage protect keys and psw key for the virtual machine (shared pages became key zero, all other pages became key "F" and the virtual machine psw always ran with key "F"). cms kernel had a single 64kbyte shared segment.

during the FS period, I continued to work on 360/370 ... first cp67 and then moved over to vm370 (and would periodically ridicule the FS stuff). some old email about move from cp67 to vm370
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

this included a cms paged mapped filesystem and greatly expanding sharing ... to any file object (not restricted to executables) could be designated r/o sharing. with the failure of FS, there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines ... which contributed to decision to pick up stuff I had been been doing and include in product release ... including significantly extending sharing (past the original 64kbytes of the kernel) ... i had modify various pieces of CMS code so that it could run as r/o shared. However, the full page-mapped filesystem wasn't released ... in large part because of the bad reputation that FS "single-level-store" had acquired (although I frequently pointed out that I had learned what not to do based on what I had seen in tss/360, while FS just repeated all the same mistakes).

In any case, a drastic subset of the sharing was picked up for VM370 release 3 w/o the paged-mapped filesystem, substituting a hack to the early named system support. However, this did greatly increase the number of shared pages that might be active at any one point.

There was some other independent work that was also scheduled for vm370 release 3. VM370 VMA microcode assist came out for vm370 release 2, which directly simulated some number of priviledged instructions in virtual machine mode (w/o having priviledged interrupt into vm370 kernel for simulation). However it could be used by CMS virtual machines running shared segments ... because the VMA implemenation of LPSW, ISK, SSK instructions didn't account for the storage key shared paged protection hack.

Somebody did a "copy-on-write" for CMS shared pages ... instead of the storage-key hack ... virtual machine was dispatched w/o shared page protection. however, before vm370 did task switch, if the previous executing virtual machine was running shared pages, each of the pages were checked for changed/modified bit, if found, the page was "unshared", aka copy-on-write, given to the virtual machine and nonchanged version scheduled for refresh from disk. CMS shared paged virtual machines could now be dispatched with VMA (since the storage protect hack was no-longer being used) ... reducing vm370 overhead ... at the cost of checking 16 shared pages on each task switch ... a net performance win.

The conflict that came together for releasing the "copy-on-write" hack at the same time as significantly increasing shared pages was the VMA trade-off with shareg page checking didn't work when more than 16 pages had to be checked (normal CMS would now have minimum of 32 shared pages, and frequently a lot more). However, some salesman had pre-announced that VM370/CMS release 3 could use VMA to some of the large CMS-intensive customers ... who then had purchased the VMA feature (during the FS period and lack of 370 products, sales was frequently hard pressed to generate any revenue at all). The claim was that even tho the trade-off was no longer valid, they still had to ship CMS use of VMA because they couldn't tell those customers that they paid for something that wouldn't be used.

Things got worse for VM370 release 4 which added SMP multiprocessor support. The VMA unprotected shared page hack for release 3 was dependent on only single task accessing a shared page at any moment (and fixup before anybody else accessed the same pages, since only a single virtual machine ran at a time). In VM370 release 4, (2-way SMP) it became worse because two virtual machines could be running simultaneously. As a result, two sets of shared virtual pages were required (one for each processor) ... and before dispatching a CMS virtual machine, its virtual memory tables had to be swizzled to point to the shared pages specific to the processor it would run on). posts mentioning SMP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

One of my hobbies was doing enhanced production operation systems for internal datacenters ... and a long time customers was the world-wide sales&marketing online HONE system. HONE was one of the first to install CMS shared segment enhancements for APL executable (vm370 release 2 ... long before DWSS in release 3). However, I also continued to provided them with implementation of the storage key protection hack. When they were expanding to the largest single-system-image in the world ... I provided them release 3 vm370 with SMP multiprocessor support ... so all the processor complexes in the loosely coupled complex could also be multiprocessor (and still use the storage key protection).

The HONE production APL environment included a large amount of APL code that was always active in every workspace. Since APL code was interpreted, there is some similarity between it and some of JAVA discussion ... and early HONE hack was to move large amounts of HONE common APL code into shared pages. Initially this was one-off specific for the HONE common APL code (bascially appended to executable image). However, this is old email with APL developer about generalizing APL to support any workspace load from CMS paged-mapped filesystem as "shared" (and position/address independent)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#email821104

past posts mentioning HONE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

and other old email about fulist/browse/ios3270 in shared pages
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#email781010
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#email781011

past posts mentioning paged-mapped filesystem
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap
past posts mentioning adcon issues for location/position independent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon

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Counts

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Counts
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:00:38 -0400
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
I don't know how much came from Oak Ridge, but depleted uranium became sort of a fad for weapons in which the impact velocity could be suitably high. Stuff I ran across would have a few % titanium or similar in the alloy.

recent discussions (used by A10 for anti-tank & other heavy armor)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#93 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#98 Friden Flexowriter equipment series

DU wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

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History--error checking in Baudot (5 bit) transmissions

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: History--error checking in Baudot (5 bit) transmissions
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:19:16 -0400
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
This must have been one hell of a surprise to the Holiday Inn reservation network, that used 5 bit Baudot code in the 1971 IBM terminals. I'll bet they'd be shocked to hear this was all a figment of imagination... or possibly a bit of an overgeneralization from someone obviously not quite up on the various forms of early large commercial networks.

i believe other industries started using airline res. systems, however several web refs mention that Holiday Inn converted to ACP in 1977 ... including this ibm-main posting from 2012 (so using 5bit before conversion to ACP)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/bit.listserv.ibm-main/Pars$20Ipars$20TPF$20and$20APC|sort:relevance/bit.listserv.ibm-main/wEgYekA5diQ/e477BYxP6KwJ

old email about airline link control (5bit)
http://www.garlic.com/2007d.html#email800417

discusses getting ALC connection into the SABRE system that is then made available to the internal network. It mentions that implementation could be similar to the (internet telex) ITPS gateway on the internal network

other old email about 5bit 14.4kbps async to ascii
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#email850412
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#31 Baudot code direct to computers?

old post with article about Airline Link Control ...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#8 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back

web ALC reference
http://everything2.com/title/ALC
other web reference with some 5bit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleprinter

for other drift, posts mention ITPS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001e.html#45 VM/370 Resource Manager
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#34 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#19 Pennsylvania Railroad ticket fax service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#55 Just for a laugh... How to spot an old IBMer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#14 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#48 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 27 Jul 2014 19:44:36 -0700
john.archie.mckown@GMAIL.COM (John McKown) writes:
Sounds a bit like a z/VM DCSS.

but that isn't how i originally implemented it, first on cp67/cms and then moved over to vm370/cms ... as part of paged mapped filesystem for cms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

but as i've previously mentioned i let same shared pages appear at different virtual addresses concurrently in different virtual address spaces modulo the problem that lots of code in cms was generated by os/360 compilers that used the adcon convention ... that pinned executable code to fixed address ... which gave me enormous problems creating location independent code.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon

the small subset that was released as DCSS in vm370 release three, just restricted sharing to identical addresses ... but i continued to ship full support inside ibm (as well as cms paged mapped filesystem) ... also in the reference for (hone) apl ... workspace files could be mapped shared concurrently in different virtual address spaces at different virtual addresses (since it was interpreted code).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#71 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#82 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 28 Jul 2014 05:53:29 -0700
john.archie.mckown@GMAIL.COM (John McKown) writes:
Sounds a bit like a z/VM DCSS.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#85 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

an issue with DCSS (and each virtual address space not being able to dynamically select virtual address) was that shared things had to be given pre-assigned system-wide globally unique virtual address at the time they were created. Out of 24-bit, 16mbyte virtual addresses, that typically met that installation might have around 15mbytes to play with. However as things were adapted to running shared, there became issues with the total number of shared things exceeding 15mbytes and no longer able to have pre-assigned system-wide globally unique virtual addresses for everyting. So attempt was made to carefully choose addresses that minimized conflicts for users that needed combinations of different shared objects mapped concurrently. When that didn't work, multiple different versions of the same thing were predefined in DCSS at different virtual addresses. There was then some possibility that it would satisfy community of users with requirements for different combinations of shared objects. However, as sharing technology increased, there was possibility that users had shared objects mapped, but very little sharing going on, since they were using different versions at different virtual addresses.

my original implementation allowed for any file object (w/o system privileged DCSS predefinition, DCSS definition originally required kernel build and reboot) to be shared (each virtual address space could dynamically select its own virtual address for each shared object).

the DCSS problem was analogous to the MVS common system area issue (except VM370 had fallback that user could still load non-shared version at unique address). OS/360 heavy pointer passing API had major problem moving from os/vs2 SVS to os/vs2 MVS with everything in its own virtual address space. In order to access API parameters passed by pointer, every application virtual address had 8mbyte image of the MVS kernal mapped into the 16mbyte virtual address space. However, MVS subsystems were now also in their own virtual address space ... the common segment area (1mbyte) was created and mapped into every virtual address space (leaving 7mbytes for application use) so that application could obtain CSAa for stashing parameters and then calling the subsystem (with pointer to parameters). As large installations increased number of subsystems and concurrent applications, the common segment area size was increasing and morphed into the common system area. By the end of the 3033 era, some large installations were being faced with increasing CSA to larger than 6mbytes, leaving only 1mbyte (or zero) for application use.

exceeding available virtual space came up in internal chip design that had a 7mbyte fortran program running on numerous large mvs systems ... which were carefully crafted to keep CSA to 1mbyte. However, enhancements were constantly threatening to increase the fortran program to greater than 7mbytes. all these mega-MVS systems were being faced with conversion to vm370/cms ... vm370/cms could be operated with all but 128kbytes of 16mbytes for application execution.

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:50:22 -0400
hancock4 writes:
FS was killed because, in essence, they recognized (1) the advances in technology--cheap memory and powerful CPUs--were not advancing fast enough to make FS practical; (2) demand for S/370 products was stronger than expected, (3) 360-370 became the de-facto standard architecture for the industry, and (4) FS was extremely complicated and completion was seen too far away.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

possible spun as favorably as possible ... modulo:

1) some amount of it hadn't even been specified ... just some high-level ideas and then "where's the beaf" ... many areas were possibly years away from finding whether they were even practical (as opposed to simply lacking sufficiently advanced technology)

2) (ibm houston science center) simulation that showed a 370/195 application run on a FS machine made out of the same technology as 370/195, would have throughput of 370/145 (30 times slow-down). could only be marketed to much less throughput sensitive market ... like s/38 (which wasn't even a 370 market).

3) FS internal politics were killing off 370 product activity, then the lack of 370 products gave the 370 clone vendors a market foothold (killing off internal competition left the market wide-open to external competition)

4) acs-end describes executives killing off acs/360 because it would advance the computer state of the art too fast and IBM would loose control of the market (also mentions features from acs/360 not showing up until more than 20yrs later in es/9000)
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

combination would imply that they wanted enormous advances in cheap memory and powerful CPUs ... but not necessarily available to users.

some more here:
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

including some discussion of Brooks "Mythical Man Month" ... and 3081 (370) in the 80s being made out of warmed over FS technology ... only three times faster than 168 ... but required so much hardware that 16 168s could have been built (could build sixteen 168s for the same cost of 3081 ... and have five times the throughput).

there was something similar earlier in the late 70s with 3033 and 4341 ... 3033 also using warmed over FS technology. multiple 4341s had aggregate higher throughput, lower cost, better price/performance, smaller sq ft and smaller environmental footprint (in the datacenters). they were also the leading edge of the distributed computing tsunami ... large corporations buying hundreds at a time and putting out in departmental areas.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#76 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#78 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#79 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 28 Jul 2014 08:18:59 -0700
0000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Understood. When I first explored the S/370 instruction set, it appeared to me that the S/360 designers had anticipated support for location-independent code (as envisioned by Lynn Wheeler), but software never realized that support.

tss/360 basically collected address constants into object/pool separate from the executable image ... which could be virtual address space specific ... a pointer to this (separate) area was passed to a program in a register.

for adcons in the same executable image ... I would play displacement games that would be resolved at the time the original image is created (by link). Rather than program containing "absolute" adcon ... it contains a displacement. assumption is the base register is the start of the module ... then adcon is something like


        extrn  program
pdisp   dc     al4(program-base)

then

l  r15,pdisp
        ar r15,r12

works whether the displacement is positive or negative (standard os/360 & cms linker supports adcon arithmetic with external symbols). then the same executable image could appear at dynamically selected virtual address w/o affecting the contents of the executable image (and the same exact executable image can appear concurrently at different addresses in different virtual address spaces)

there is also some loading performance improvement because the image doesn't have to be prefetched in order that all the (os/360) relocatable address constants swizzled to the loaded location (just do the memory map to the potentially shared filesystem object).

the issue then is for addresses between different executable images where the displacement could be different for different virtual address spaces. that needs operating system convention with pool of pointers outside the executable image (with a passed pointer to the address/displacement pool which are virtual address space specific).

past posts mentioning pain dealing with os/360 paradigm technology and trying to make executable images location independent.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#adcon

one of the optimization trade-offs is for first time (or non-shared) mapping, is the object simply page faulted one 4k page at a time ... or is some large amount (or all) prefetched asynchronously with starting execution. I did a lot of hueristic dynamic adaptive stuff associated with loading paged mapped object (shared or not-shared). then later page faults could also result in single 4k page fetch ... or multiple adjacent 4k page fetches in single i/o operation (possibly along with some combination of synchronous and asynchronous operation).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#71 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#82 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#85 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#86 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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make a new thread

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: make a new thread
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:46:54 -0400
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
Sure, you can widen the meaning of RISC to encompass every CPU in the past, present and future, Humpty-Dumpty-like, but for what purpose? In the 1990s, when RISC was in fashion, tech marketing liked to claim that CISC CPUs had RISC cores (or something along these lines); I can understand why marketing likes to do such things, but why would you? It removes any meaning from the term RISC.

I sat thru 801/risc presentation spring of 1977 ... i sort of concluded that John was going to the opposite of the failed "future system" effort. one of the statements that stuck in my mind was advances in compiler technology would be used to offset reduction in hardware complexity. there was mention of simple enough to be implemented in single chip, instructions execute in single cycle, no hardware protection (compiler would only generate correct programs and system would only execute correctly compiled programs), no cache consistency ... and some number of other hardware simplifications. correct programs didn't have to make system calls since everything could be done correctly with inline code. since then lots of people have tweaked designs in various ways claiming to be risc except for some set of features.

one of the things that help kill off FS was analysis by the IBM houston science center that if a 370/195 application was run on a FS machine made out of the same components as 370/195 ... it would have throughput of 370/145 (30 times slower).

this has other FS issues ... including the 3081 (370) built in the early 80s out of warmed over FS technology ... only had three times the performance of 168s but required hardware sufficient to build sixteen 168s
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm
FS description and discussion
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html
wiki entry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Future_Systems_project
old posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

801, risc, romp, rios, power, power/pc etc posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:41:43 -0400
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
All a question of how much data you need to back up. I remember now, the Sys/34 had 2 magazine slots. So we put 20 diskettes into the machine, by loading 2 magazines.

You could allocate with the control language using an ID like M1.03 (magazine 1, diskette 3). When I left, we had all 20 diskettes in use, but not more than 50% full.


ibm invented 8in floppies to use for loading microcode for 3830 disk control unit ... then were used in various 370 models for loading microcode for processors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_floppy_disk

string 8 3330 drives, eight removable 100mbyte disks, upgraded to double capacity 200mbytes/disks (808 tracks up from 404 tracks)
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3330.html

a string of eight 3330s could connect directly to a 3830 controller or to a string switch ... and a string switch could connect to two different 3830s controllers.

3830 had two channel interface, allowing connecting to two different 370s concurrently.

using string switch, it was possible to access 3330 from up to four different 370s. was possible to add a 2nd two channel interface to 3830 allowing connection to up to eight 370s
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/dasd/3330/GA26-1592-5_Reference_Manual_for_IBM_3830_Storage_Control_Model_1_and_IBM_3330_Disk_Storage_Nov76.pdf
and over on wayback machine
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_ibm38xx383efApr72_6929160

these were removable disks ... so installation might have much larger number of (200mbyte) disks that there were drives.

IBM also did 3850 that had some number of 3330 drives connected to automated cartridge library that could move data back and forth between cartridge and disk
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3850.html
which could have up to 4720 tape cartridges
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3850b.html

there were a number of complexes like lockheed dialog ... an early online system, and circa 1980 that had 300 drives that were connected to two different 370 processors at datacenter in silicon valley
http://www.historyofinformation.com/expanded.php?id=1069
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_K._Summit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_%28online_database%29

online before the internet
http://www.infotoday.com/searcher/jun03/ardito_bjorner.shtml
Roger Summit
http://www.infotoday.com/searcher/oct03/SummitWeb.shtml

also (dialog sold to proquest and old URLs gone 404)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140327061241/http://dialog.com/about/history/
and
http://web.archive.org/web/20121011155818/http://support.dialog.com/publications/chronolog/200206/1020628.shtml

past posts mentioning dialog
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#150 Q: S/390 on PowerPC?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#33 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#46 The Alpha/IA64 Hybrid
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#51 Author seeks help - net in 1981
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#3 Why are Mainframe Computers really still in use at all?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#0 Search for Joseph A. Fisher VLSI Publication (1981)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#53 10 choices that were critical to the Net's success
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#61 10 choices that were critical to the Net's success
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#52 Microsoft's innovations [was:the rtf format]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#67 Mainframe Spreadsheets - 1980's History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#66 History of project maintenance tools -- what and when?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#55 The very first text editor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#60 3350 failures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#88 Continous Systems Modelling Package
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#24 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#44 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#46 Old datasearches
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#34 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#55 Article says mainframe most cost-efficient platform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#47 Graph of total world disk space over time?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#39 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services

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IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:30:15 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
ibm invented 8in floppies to use for loading microcode for 3830 disk control unit ... then were used in various 370 models for loading microcode for processors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_floppy_disk


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#90 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

development for the 3880 disk controller had some problems. the microcode development system was this large application running on MVS system with limited turn-around. the idea was to get the microcode development system ported off MVS to vm370/cms and moved out to 4341s in the departmental areas ... eliminating the datacenter bottleneck.

the other bottleneck was there was a limited number of floppy disk writters. the floppy disk drives in disk controllers were purely read/only ... the solution was to get some number of floppy r/w drives to go along with the port of the development system to vm370/cms to significantly improve development turn-around and productivity.

old email referencind moving MDB/MDS from MVS to vm370/cms and getting r/w floppy drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email791010c
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#17 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders

and this email about getting MDB/MDS moved to vm370/cms
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#email810128
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#40 25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer

other old 4341 email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

when I transferred to San Jose Research, they let me wander around other locations in the San Jose area, one of the places was the disk engineering lab. at the time they were doing development testing using dedicated, stand-alone mainframe processing time, prescheduled 7x24 around the clock. At one time they had attempted to use MVS for concurrent testing, however in that environment MVS had 15min mean-time-between-failure ... requiring manual restart of MVS. I offered to redo i/o supervisor to make it bullet proof and never fail ... allowing any number of on-demand, concurrent testing (greatly improving productivity). after that they would periodically drag me in to look at other issues. past posts getting to play disk engineer in bldgs. 14&15
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

later as getting close to ship 3880 disk controllers ... field engineer had regression testing of 57 typically expected errors ... old email ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801015
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#2 The Elements of Programming Style

MVS was still failing (requiring manual restart) for all 57 cases and in 2/3rds of cases, after restart there was no indication of what caused the failure.

other posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#40 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#44 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#47 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#48 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#52 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#54 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#55 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#69 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#70 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#72 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#76 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#78 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#79 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#87 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:53:07 -0400
As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday; Old clips get posted online to mark operating system's upcoming anniversary
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9030242/As_OpenVMS_nears_30_users_dredge_up_videos_from_DEC_s_heyday_

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As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:43:21 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#92 As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday

in the wake of the Future System failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

and mad rush to get stuff back into 370 product pipeline (3033, 3081, mvs/xa, etc), the head of POK managed to convince corporate to kill the vm370 product, shutdown the vm/cms development group in burlington mall, and move all the people to POK (or otherwise mvs/xa wouldn't be able to ship on schedule ... 7-8yrs in the future). Part of the plan was not to tell burlington until the very last mininute ... to minimize the numbers that might escape the move. The info manage to leak early and lots were able to find other positions in the boston area ... joke that head of POK was one of the biggest contributors to DEC VMS (dates back almost 40yrs ago)

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As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:50:53 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#92 As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#93 As OpenVMS nears 30, users dredge up videos from DEC's heyday

sorry, the stuff from today

French fight the death of OpenVMS
http://beta.slashdot.org/submission/3733299
French fight the death of OpenVMS
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9250002/French_fight_the_death_of_OpenVMS

with more refs from 2007

OpenVMS Apps Face Uncertain Migration Path
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/290258/OpenVMS_Apps_Face_Uncertain_Migration_Path
OpenVMS, R.I.P. 1977-2020?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239984/OpenVMS_R.I.P._1977_2020_

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:41:38 -0400
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
What we learn from history is that we don't learn from history. I have been through multiple boom and bust cycles and the characteristics are always the same. "This time for sure", as Bullwinkle kept saying. This goes back to the Dutch tulip boom and bust.

the alternate view is that some actually learn from history on how to game the system ... boom/bust being akin to ponzi manipulation ... the rest then is obfuscation, misdirection, and/or Kabuki Theater
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

Greenspan says bubbles can't be stopped without 'crunch'
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/greenspan-worries-about-false-dawns-fed-exit-2014-07-24
Please Don't Blame The Fed: Alan Greenspan Says "Bubbles Are A Function Of Human Nature"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/please-dont-blame-fed-alan-greenspan-says-bubbles-are-function-human-nature
C'mon Alan! Bubbles Are Caused By Central Bankers, Not "Human Nature"
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/cmon-alan-bubbles-are-caused-by-central-bankers-not-human-nature/

You Can't Taper a Ponzi Scheme: Time to Reboot
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25201-you-cant-taper-a-ponzi-scheme-time-to-reboot

then

Social media meme says Alan Greenspan said insecure workers 'serve the masters gladly'
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jul/21/facebook-posts/social-media-meme-says-alan-greenspan-said-insecur/

they fixed the game better this time, during the S&L mess there were 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 convictions ... this time there have been no criminal referrals, no convictions, and nobody doing jail time (some possibility of 70,000 convictions?)

Fraud Cases During the S&L Crisis ... Not Even a SINGLE Prosecution Today, Even Though the 2008 Crisis Was 70 Times Bigger
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/30000-criminal-referrals-led-1000-felony-convictions-major-fraud-cases-sl-crisis-even-single-prosecution-today-even-though-2008-crisis-70-times-bigger.html

which has contributed to the rise of references that the too big to fail are also too big to prosecute and too big to jail, some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

there have been "fines" for the press ... but the fines are so trivial compared to the amounts involved ... they are becoming viewed as just the cost of doing business (fraud)

Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/settlements-and-fines-tbtf-institutions-crisis

another ref to kind cost of doing business

Corporations used to pay almost one-third of federal taxes. Now it's one-tenth.
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/25/5936837/chart-us-corporations-declining-tax-burden-inversions-corporate-tax

one scenario is that computer war-gaming started with MICC for winning strategies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military-industrial-complex

... but then evolved being used for "winning" financial manipulation strategies (including buying off legislative and regulatory agencies), lots of it is based on volatility, strategies to take cut on change ... and when things are stable ... they purposefully introduce volatility (being able to gamble on the direction of change ... when they've fixed the game). There was over $27T in toxic CDOs done during the bubble, but over quadrillion in CDS gambling bets. There were entities that wanted to continue/delay the bubble while they made CDS bets that the bubble would burst, they purposefully created toxic CDOs that appeared better than what was currently on the market (but actually designed to fail) ... so they could get more bets on the bubble bursting.

The Magnetar Trade: How One Hedge Fund Helped Keep the Bubble Going
http://www.propublica.org/article/all-the-magnetar-trade-how-one-hedge-fund-helped-keep-the-housing-bubble
Subprime crisis impact timeline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_crisis_impact_timeline

some derivative bets

The Elephant In The Room: Deutsche Bank's $75 Trillion In Derivatives Is 20 Times Greater Than German GDP
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/elephant-room-deutsche-banks-75-trillion-derivatives-20-times-greater-german-gdp
Freeze the $1.5 Quadrillion Derivatives Bubble
http://goldenageofgaia.com/accountability/financial-crash/freeze-the-1-5-quadrillion-derivatives-bubble/

no.2 on times list of those responsible for the economic mess was responsible for GLBA (repeal glass-steagall) and provision that prevented CFTC from regulating derivatives.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

The head of CFTC had proposed regulating derivatives and was quickly replaced with somebody pending her husband getting the legislation preventing regulation passed
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html

from above:
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

... and
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/

from above:
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this, the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees,

... snip ...

other

"It Can't Be A Bubble!"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-26/it-cant-be-bubble
John Hussman: "Make No Mistake - This Is An Equity Bubble, And A Highly Advanced One"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-27/john-hussman-make-no-mistake-equity-bubble-and-highly-advanced-one

earlier this year

Alan Greenspan's Modest Proposal: Fix Broken Economic Models By... Modeling Irrational "Animal Spirits"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-02/alan-greenspans-modest-proposal-fix-broken-economic-models-modeling-irrational-anima
The Damage From the Housing Bubble: How Much Did the Greenspan-Rubin Gang Cost Us?
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/the-damage-from-the-housing-bubble-how-much-did-the-greenspan-rubin-gang-cost-us
Before the Greenspan/Bernanke Put, There Was the Mellon Put
http://mattstoller.tumblr.com/post/75940320469/before-the-greenspan-bernanke-put-there-was-the-mellon
Chronicling The Fed's Follies: America's Housing Fiasco Is On You, Alan Greenspan
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/chronicling-the-feds-follies-americas-housing-fiasco-is-on-you-alan-greenspan/
Must Have Been Monetary Immaculate Conception! Greenspan Denies Bubble Responsibility, Again
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/must-have-been-monetary-immaculate-conception-greenspan-denies-bubble-responsibility-again/
The Greenspan Housing Bubble Lives On: 20 Million Homeowners Can't Trade-Up Because They Are Still Underwater
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/the-greenspan-housing-bubble-lives-on-20-million-homeowners-cant-trade-up-because-they-are-still-underwater/

and misc. ponzi refs:

The Rot Within, Part I: Our Ponzi Economy
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/rot-within-part-i-our-ponzi-economy
JP Morgan Will Not Be Criminally Prosecuted for Its Role in Madoff's Ponzi Scheme
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=74&jumival=11298
What Did Weintraub Know About Madoff Ponzi Scheme?
http://www.informationweek.com/what-did-weintraub-know-about-madoff-ponzi-scheme-/d/d-id/1127727?
Superstar FX Trader Whiz-kid Nothing But A Superspending Ponzi Fraud
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-24/superstar-fx-trader-whiz-kid-nothing-superspending-ponzi-fraud

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 30 Jul 2014 09:33:49 -0700
jwglists@GMAIL.COM (John Gilmore) writes:
That said, Timothy Sipples is clearly right in general: The use of significant system-software resources to identify and share bit-equivalent pages, even big ones, dynamically is not likely to pay for itself in a z/OS environment. The major optimizations are already in place. The z/OS ASM does not, for example, page out unaltered pages after doing so once initially; and it is able to make this distinction efficiently because there is hardware support for distinguishing altered/stored-into pages from unaltered ones.

page replacement started out being only writing changed pages ... but "big pages" appeared in 80s used with 3380s as attempt to compensate for lack of appropriate paging devices. idea was doing a full track (10 page) transfer in one operation (leveraging the 3380 transfer speed increase by factor of four ... from 3330 800kbytes/sec to 3mbytes/sec ... but didn't have corresponding increase in arm access throughput).

pages for same address space were removed from memory in groups of ten ... and written as single transfer to disk. a fetch for any page in the group resulted in full track read for all ten pages (amortizing single arm access across ten page transfer). the write was always done to a new location ... basically first available location closest to moving arm algorithm. to make this effective, it had to ignore whether a page had been changed or not ... and remove groups of ten associated pages in one operation (whether changed or not) all to the same track. additional overhead of writing unchanged pages and potentially fetching unncessary pages (wouldn't be used) in groups of ten ... was deamed to be more than offset by the savings of one arm access for ten page transfer (along with strategies for optimizing arm movement).

additional motivation was there were some non-IBM "fixed-head" simulation paging disks that other vendors were offerring using electronic memory ... eliminating arm access & rotational delay. the sales argument was that "big pages" only had to do one arm access & rotational delay per ten page transfer (in theory, negating the benefits of electronic simulated disks).

about the same time, there was 3880-11 and 3880-13 controller caches. 3880-11 was 8mbyte of 4k block cache targeted at paging operations and 3880-13 was 8mbyte of full track cache targeted at file operations.

the 3880-13 marketing was that the cache had 90% hit rate. however, the scenario was sequential file read of 4k records, 10/track. The first record read from track would be miss, but the next 9 records read would all be hits. if the application was changed to do sequential full track buffered reads, cache hit rate would drop to zero.

I got into dustup with the 3880-11 product group that unless they changed the mainframe software, the 3880-11 provided almost no benefit. the issue was most configuration had about the same or more paged mainframe memory (32mbyte 3081) than 3880-11 cache. The effective result was that it would be highly improbably that there would be a record in the the 3880-11 cache that wasn't in mainframe memory ("duplicates"). As a result, a page fault for something that wasn't in mainframe memory wouldn't also be in 3880-11 cache (since the 3880-11 were totally full of stuff that was also in mainframe memory). It was possible to do CCW that would eliminate "duplicates" (increasing probability that there was record in 3880-11 that wasn't also in mainframe), but that required changing mainframe software.

I had earlier gotten into dustup with the VS2 group (early, pre-announce SVS) over their myopic decision that when selecting pages for replacement, that non-changed pages were selected before changed pages (since it reduced work, memory location was immediately available because it didn't require write). It wasn't well into the MVS release cycle ... that it dawned on them that they were selecting non-changed, shared, high-use linkpack pages for replacement before selecting lower use, application private data pages.

past posts on page replacement algorithms and strategies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#wsclock

past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#67 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#71 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#82 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#85 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#86 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#88 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

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The SDS 92, its place in history?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The SDS 92, its place in history?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:28:38 -0400
hancock4 writes:
While the specific operating characteristics of the 195 are available, would anyone know the _comparative throughput_ values? In those days, it was common to use the S/370-158 as the measuring standard of 1.0, and compare throughput (running a defined series of jobs) in other machines to get relative performance.

Indeed, I always wondered how long various PCs of the past and present would take to run a workload as compared to S/3660 or S/370 computer.

I'm not sure that even a PC of today could handle as well the multi-tasking that a S/370-158 could handle because the architecture of the S/370 allowed for more independence of the various devices, resulting in less contention. AFAIK, most PCs still only have one disk drive.


370/158 is nominally considered 1MIPS processor ... was also used as such for dhrystone baseline ... ratio of number of iterations/sec divided by 370/158 interations/sec giving nominal MIPS rate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

A recent max configured z196 with 80 processors is claimed to be aggregate of 50BIPS (thousand MIPS) while more recent ec12 with 101 processors is claimed aggregate of 75BIPS.

A 370/158 might have 8-32 3330 (@200mbyte, 1.6gbyte-6.4gbyte) disk drives on 1 or 2 channels giving 800kbyte/sec or 1.6mbyte/sec transfer ... or maybe 40-80 4k R/W per sec. This was aggrevated by heavy use of CKD multi-track search by MVT, SVS, MVS, etc ... which lockup channel, controller, and disk for multiple disk revolutions (the dependency continues to this day, requiring CKD emulated disks even though real CKD haven't been manufactured for decades). I had been called into MVS customer performance situations where aggregate disk I/O throughput was reduced to seven/sec because of severe multi-track search issues. past posts mentioning CKD, multi-track search, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

peak throughput of 370/195 was 10MIPS ... but because conditional branches normally stalled/drained the pipeline ... lots of codes only ran at 5MIPS. this gave rise to proposal to do a hyperthreaded simulated two-processor (two instructions streams sharing common pipeline/hardware). hyperthreading had previously been work on for acs/360 ... mentioned here:
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
recent posts mentioning 370/195 hyperthreaded effort (that never shipped)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#62 Imprecise Interrupts and the 360/195
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#64 Optimization, CPU time, and related issues
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#15 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#5 DEC Technical Journal on Bitsavers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?

If you are just talking about running 370/158 workload on current day PC ... it is easy to get PCs with real storage greater than typical 158 disk configuration (1.6gbyte-6.4gbyte).

In the discussion of FICON ... I've frequently repeated that much of the fiction about mainframe i/o throughput with large number of channels was really hyped in the 3090 timeframe. The problem is that IBM channels are half-duplex with huge amount of end-to-end protocol chatter that radically cuts actual data transfer throughput. The original 3090 channel configuration assumed the 3880 supporting 3380 3mbyte/sec data transfer (compared to 800kbyte/sec for 3830/3330) ... would also have fast protocol processing. However, while 3880 could do 3mbyte/sec data transfer ... its channel protocol processing was actually much slower than 3830 (which drastically cut each channels effective data throughput). When 3090 realized how bad it was ... they had to significantly increase the number of channels ... in order to achieve aggregate target system i/o throughput. This resulted in added additional TCM (very expensive item) to each 3090 manufacturing. There were semi-facetious references that the 3090 product group would bill the 3880 group for each additional TCM. IBM sales/marketing then came up with story that the significant increase in number of 3090 channels were a demonstration of its great i/o capability (as opposed to the real story that it was needed to compensate for the lack of per channel throughput).

I've recently periodically referred to peak i/o z196 benchmark achieved 2M IOPS using 104 FICON (a heavy weight protocol layer implemented on top of fibre channel standard, that drastically cuts native FCS throughput) ... about the same time a native FCS was announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS (two such FCS has higher throughput than 104 FCS using FICON layer).

posts mentioning FICON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

also e5-2600v1 blade have aggregate BIPS ratings between 400-525 (depending on clock rate) ... two 8processor chips ... e5-2600v2 are currently shipping and new e5-2600v3 expected later this year (might have twice aggregate MIPS rate).

Intel Hasell-EP E5-2600 v3 full lineup's details leaked
http://www.chiploco.com/haswell-ep-e5-2600-v3-specs-35055/
Intel XEON E5-2600 v3 18 Core Hasell-EP CPUs
http://www.eteknix.com/intel-xeon-e5-2600-v3-18-core-haswell-ep-cpus-get-specs-pricing/

then there is this:

Intel makes custom Xeons for Oracle
http://www.itworld.com/hardware/428779/intel-makes-custom-xeons-oracle

recent posts mentionin e5-2600 blades
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#71 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#94 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#97 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#18 Quixotically on-topic post, still on topic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#22 US Federal Reserve pushes ahead with Faster Payments planning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#96 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#71 Last Gasp For Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#4 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#12 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#51 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#65 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#57 [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#72 ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#78 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test

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z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 30 Jul 2014 16:12:01 -0700
jwglists@GMAIL.COM (John Gilmore) writes:
Page selection and selective page rewriting operations are, or at least should be, entirely separable operations. Moreover gather-write channel programs are in my experience 1) as efficient as connected-block ones and 2) not notably more difficult to write and test.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#96 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses

other page replacement trivia

as undergraduate in the 60s, I did a lot rewriting cp67 for pathlength optimization, I also did dynamic adaptive resourcement management scheduling ... work on page replacement and paging optimization ... as well as changing the disk device driver to support ordered seek queuing (as opposed to FIFO) and page request chaining (on 2301 fixed-head paging drum, increased max thruput from 80/sec to nearly 300/sec) ... nearly all of this was picked up and shipped in standard cp67 ... even before I graduated and joined ibm.

part of the page replacement involved work on "global" replacement algorithms ... at a time when there was a lot of academic literature about "local" replacement algorithms.

at Dec81 ACM SIGOPS, Jim Gray asked me if I could help a co-worker with his Stanford PHD (Jim had left IBM research fall of 1980 to go to Tandem). His coworker's PHD involved "global" page replacement and Stanford was under intense pressure by the "local" page replacements forces (dating back to late 60s). Jim knew that I had significant amount of data for global/local page replacement comparisions, both implemented on cp67, showing global significantly outperformed local ... and he hoped that the actual data would provide Stanford with enough material to standup to the "local" page replacment forces.

A problem arose that IBM research management refused to give me permission to respond to Jim's request (even in spite of the fact that most of the work had been done as undergraduate in the 60s, before joining IBM) ... which went on for nearly a year. Part of response that I was finally permitted to send, but not until nearly year later
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email821019

I was being blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s and early 80s and I hoped they thought they were somehow punishing me for online computer conferencing ... and not taking sides in the academic dustup at Stanford over local versis global page replacement.

past posts mentioning page replacement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#clock
past posts mentioning online computer conferencing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

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The SDS 92, its place in history?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The SDS 92, its place in history?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:17:25 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
I've recently periodically referred to peak i/o z196 benchmark achieved 2M IOPS using 104 FICON (a heavy weight protocol layer implemented on top of fibre channel standard, that drastically cuts native FCS throughput) ... about the same time a native FCS was announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over million IOPS (two such FCS has higher throughput than 104 FCS using FICON layer).

posts mentioning FICON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#97 The SDS 92, its place in history?

In 1980 I was con'ed into doing channel extender support for IBM STL (now renamed silicon valley lab) that was moving 300 from the IMS group to offsite bldg ... with service back to the STL datacenter. They had tried "remote" 3270 but found it totally unacceptable. The channel extender support would allow local channel attached 3270 controllers at the offsite bldg ... what they were used to in STL (and turns out operation was undistinquishable between the two).

part of the channel extender support had a channel emulator at offsite bldg and channel programs were downloaded for remote execuation. The high overhead, half-duplex channel protocol chatter then was only between the local channel and a controller (in stl datacenter) and between the remote channel emulator and the 3270 controller ... with highly efficient, full-duplex optimized dataflow between.

then there was attempt to make the support available to customers, but a group in POK (that was playing with some fiber-optic stuff) blocked the release (apparently afraid that if it was in the market, it would make if more difficult to justify the release of their stuff). They finally get their stuff released a decade later in 1990 with ES/9000 as ESCON, by which time is was obsolete. It was nominally 200mbit/sec ... but best effective throughput was aggregate 17mbytes/sec (minus channel busy for end-to-end channel protocol chatter latency).

Along the way, one of the RS/6000 engineers does some stuff with what was to become escon ... but increases bitrate by 10% to 220mbit/sec, makes it full-duplex and minimizes the end-to-end protocol chatter (coming closer to aggregate 440mbit/sec thruput) ... which is released with rs/6000 in 1990 as serial-link adapter ... mentioned here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER1

In 1988, I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were doing ... which morphs into fibre-channel ... initially 1gbit/sec full-duplex, 2gbit/sec aggregate. the base infrastructure supported download i/o programs to remote end ... minimizing latency from end-to-end handshaking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fibre_Channel_standards

this old post references Jan1992 meeting in ellison's conference room about using fibre channel standard 2nd half 1992 as part of cluster scaleup, initially 16-way summer 1992 and then 128-way ye1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

also mentioned in old email about cluster scaleup
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

as part of ha/cmp effort, some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

some POK engineers then get involved in fibre channel standard and define heavy weight mainframe channel protocol layer ontop of fibre channel standard (that drastically reduces the native throughput) ... which eventually morphs into FICON
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FICON

as I've mentioned before, by the end of jan1992, cluster scaleup is transferred, we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors ... and shortly announced as IBM supercomputer for technical and scientific only.

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:33:13 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
Settlements and Fines from TBTF Institutions Since the Crisis
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/settlements-and-fines-tbtf-institutions-crisis


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#95 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

more fines but no jail:

Bank of America ordered to pay $1.27 billion for 'Hustle' fraud
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-bankofamerica-fraud-idUSKBN0FZ23R20140730

from above:
While the bank's penalty was below the $2.1 billion sought by the U.S. Department of Justice, it marks another legal defeat for Bank of America over its disastrous July 2008 purchase of Countrywide, which has cost tens of billions of dollars in litigation, loan buybacks and writedowns.

Bank of America has also held talks on another, potentially multi-billion-dollar settlement to resolve separate government probes into mortgage securities, including from Countrywide and its Merrill Lynch unit.


... snip ...

Bank of America offering $13 billion to resolve probe
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838659
BofA offers $13 billion to settle mortgage probe: WSJ
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-bankofamerica-settlement-idUSKBN0FL1U620140716

posts mentioning too big to fail, too big to prosecute and/or too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

recent similar thread in (closed linkedin) Financial Fraud group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#14 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#18 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#19 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:43:26 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#95 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#100 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

... and

RI Treasurer Justifies Hedge Fund Secrecy With Need to "Minimize Attention" Re Pay, Protect Them From Poaching
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/ri-treasurer-jusifies-hedge-fund-info-secrecy-wiith-need-to-minimize-attention.html

refs:

The Untouchables
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/
For Once, Maybe Lying Does Not Pay: DoJ's Lanny Breuer Resignation Leaked After Frontline Appearance
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/for-once-maybe-lying-does-not-pay-dojs-lanny-breuer-resigns-abruptly-after-frontline-appearance.html
Lanny Breuer, Justice Department criminal division chief, is stepping down
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/doj-criminal-division-chief-stepping-down/2013/01/23/e4331e32-64e0-11e2-b84d-21c7b65985ee_story.html
Black Report: Top Justice official tells Wall St. how to avoid prosecution
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/09/black-report-top-justice-official-tells-wall-st-how-to-avoid-prosecution.html

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, and too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says
Date: 31 July 2014
Blog: Facebook
A-10 Warthog No Longer Suitable for Middle East Combat, Air Force Leader Says
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/lists/posts/post.aspx?ID=1570

by time f35 is deployed will be out of date for high tech adversary (besides designed as bomb truck with f22s flying cover)

Chinese and Russian Radars On Track To See Through U.S. Stealth
http://news.usni.org/2014/07/29/chinese-russian-radars-track-see-u-s-stealth
Joint Strike Fighter
http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html
Assessing Joint Strike Fighter Defence Penetration Capabilities
http://ausairpower.net/APA-2009-01.html
Chinese Radar May Pierce F-35 Stealth Armor: Report
http://defensetech.org/2014/07/31/chinese-radar-may-pierce-f-35-stealth-armor-report

and expensive vast overkill for low-tech, low-intensity adversary

recent posts mentioning a10 &/or f35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#65 Washington Post on Target store data thefts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#22 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#0 Navy's F-35C Completes Landing Tests Ahead of October Sea Trials
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#1 If We Don't Keep The F-22 Raptor Viable, The F-35 Fleet Will Be Irrelevant'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#4 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#40 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#51 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#81 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#83 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#85 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#86 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#92 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#40 Missed Alarms and 40 Million Stolen Credit Card Numbers: How Target Blew It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#69 Littoral Warfare Ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#96 Lockheed Martin F-35 Jet's Software Delayed, GAO Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#102 How the IETF plans to protect the web from NSA snooping
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#1 Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#6 Credit Card Breach at California DMV Provides Yet Another Warning of Cyber Insecurities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#9 Boyd for Business & Innovation Conference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#78 How the Internet wasn't Commercial Dataprocessing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#19 Is cybersecurity the next banking crisis in the making?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#35 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#46 The Pentagon Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#68 A-10 Attack Jets Rack Up Air-to-Air Kills in Louisiana War Game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#17 Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#22 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#48 The Pentagon Is Playing Games With Its $570-Billion Budget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#51 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#81 weird power trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#49 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#67 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#98 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#7 You can make your workplace 'happy'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#13 IBM & Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#20 US No Longer Tech Leader in Military War Gear
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#61 A computer at home?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#83 Counts

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