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The Decline and Fall of IBM
Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
Demonstrating Moore's law
The Decline and Fall of IBM
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Demonstrating Moore's law
Check out IBM Said Near Deal With Globalfoundries for Chip-Making - Bloomberg
Demonstrating Moore's law
Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
weird trivia
Demonstrating Moore's law
Is end of mainframe near?
$40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
weird trivia
IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
There Is Still Hope
Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
weird trivia
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Qualitative Easing
The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
Married Couples and the Financial Mess
Maneuver Warfare: German Experiences in WWII
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Named Memory
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Oil Co. Wins $350,000 Cyberheist Settlement
SEC Charges Private Equity Firm With Pay-to-Play Violations Involving Political Campaign Contributions in Pennsylvania
The Only Things Standing Between Bank Of America And A $17 Billion Justice Department Fine
Demonstrating Moore's law
Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
Mainframe on NCIS
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
EBFAS
BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
[CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
European bank 'hit by sophisticated cyber-thefts
Dark Pool Greed Drove Barclays to Lie to Clients, N.Y. Says
Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Sale receipt--obligatory?
Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Alan Grayson: Is Keith Alexander Selling Classified Information to the Banks?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
10 Big Fat Lies and the Liars Who Told Them
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
EBFAS
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Wastewater well suspended after "frackquakes" rock Colorado
Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal
The End of the Internet?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
IBM, Lenovo server deal potentially scuppered over security
Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
Friden Flexowriter equipment series
BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion
How The Island Of Seychelles Became A Haven For Dirty Money
'Synthetic' ID Theft Emerging As Fastest-Growing Type Of Consumer Fraud
Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That
Friden Flexowriter equipment series
TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
The SDS 92, its place in history?
The SDS 92, its place in history?
How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
The SDS 92, its place in history?
TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
CMS Editors was TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope
history of copy on write, was PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope
IBM mainframes, was PDP-11 architecture
Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry
In Banking World, Fraud Is an Epidemic
Follow the Money: How Finance Keeps the Whip Hand
Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That

The Decline and Fall of IBM

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Decline and Fall of IBM
Date: 08 June 2014
Blog: Facebook (& Google+)
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM

compares private equity business to "flipping houses" ... except the loan to buy a company is put on that company's "books", then every possible way of extracting value from the company, and then sell the company ... a company can be sold be less than paid and still make enormous profit (since the original loan isn't paid off, it goes with the sold company). servicing that debt puts enormous pressure on the companies to do whatever necessary to generate revenue (cutting corners, reducing spending/expenses, etc). over half of corporate defaults are companies currently or formally owned by private equity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

the private equity company that Gerstner goes on to head up (after leaving IBM) buys Snowden's employer ... which is participating in extensive privatizing of the fed. gov ... 70% of intelligence budget and over half the people are with private companies (Snowden's employer has also been found to use intelligence information for its own benefit).
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/
and
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-23/visualizing-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington

now some of the recent news about private equity ... even tho it has been going on for a long time

SEC Official: Over Half Of All Private Equity Audits Revealed Crimes
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/05/09/sec-official-over-half-of-all-private-equity-audits-revealed-crimes/
SEC Official Describes Widespread Lawbreaking and Material Weakness in Controls in Private Equity Industry
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/sec-official-describes-widespread-lawbreaking-material-weakness-controls-private-equity-industry.html
New York Times' New Editor Buries Important Story on Private Equity Fee Shenanigans on Holiday Weekend
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/new-york-times-new-editor-buries-important-story-private-equity-fee-shenanigans-holiday-weekend.html
The Deal's Done. But Not the Fees.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/business/the-deals-done-but-not-the-fees.html

as to the intelligence agency, in the wake of this, congress had put the agency on probation and not allowed to manage its own projects ... although that may have just been way to further privatizing of the gov.
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

Stockman in "The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America" stock buybacks are mini-form of private equity LBO pg457/loc9844-46:
The leader was ExxonMobil, which repurchased $160 billion of its own shares during 2004-2011. It was followed by Microsoft at $100 billion, IBM at $75 billion, and Hewlett-Packard, Proctor & Gamble, and Cisco with $50 billion each. Even the floundering shipwreck of merger mania known as Time Warner Inc. bought back $25 billion.

pg450/loc9714-16:
Likewise, as detailed in chapters 24 and 25 , LBOs have been mainly cash strip-mining operations, not a unique arrangement for conducting business more efficiently.

... snip ...

posts mentioning Gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
posts mentioning Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

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Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
Date: 08 June 2014
Blog: Boyd and Beyond
Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
http://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Not-Learned-Status-Culture-ebook/dp/B00DKMWP2Q/

I'm about halfway through, makes a case the most competent organization in the Navy has been PR, getting lots of practice fabricating stories to cover up incompetent commanders and faulty equipment.

loc1698-70:
The Phoenix missile (now retired) was easily the most expensive air-to-air missile in the world, and it was much less reliable than cheaper missiles or guns. As Chester Richards argued, "In fact it would not be facetious to suggest a new law of combat effectiveness: The side with the most expensive weapons loses."

There are a lot of carrier examples (and even more submarine & ASW examples) ... but the Phoenix missile was the only one with Richards quote.

for other refs, loc2242-45:
As Maj. Donald E. Vandergriff, USA (Ret.), put it, "While several SEAL units performed outstandingly, overall the SEALS were found to be wanting." 11 This matter is given due coverage in Sean Naylor's refreshingly critical and brutally honest book Not a Good Day to Die: The Untold Story of Operation Anaconda, which I highly recommend.

loc2314:
Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr. was certain that the U.S. Navy could not beat the Soviet Navy in the early 1970s.

loc2335-38:
Another senior American officer who might agree with Zumwalt, Rickover, Turner, Carroll, Byron, and Shuger is Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper, USMC (Ret.). In Exercise "Millennium Challenge" (2002), Van Riper, playing the role of Saddam Hussein, used small boats to destroy sixteen U.S. Navy ships, including an aircraft carrier and two helicopter carriers, in the Persian Gulf.

... snip ...

Somewhat finishes up by putting congress on level with the most incompetent, venal and corrupt in the navy.

some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 9 Jun 2014 05:50:43 -0700
Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> writes:
I'd be careful making that claim...

A resource is:

http://www.tech-news.com/publib/index.html

Anyway, approximate price for a 485 MIPS 9021-9X2 in 2Q94 is $1.3M, for a 78,426 MIPS 2827-7A1 in 3Q12 $33.1M.

In terms of MIPS growth, that's 161-fold in 18 years, or about 33% per year.

In terms of cost-per-MIPS, that's 9.85-fold over that interval (taking into account about 55% inflation over that interval), or about 14% per year.

Both are well below the slower (doubling every two years) version of Moore's Law. OTOH, Moore was talking about the number of transistors on a chip, not system performance or cost/performance, although those are common interpretations.


industry standard for MIPS is dhrystones which is actually count of iterations compared to benchmark on 370/158 assumed to be 1mip processor.

recent mainframes z900, 16 processors, 2.5BIPS (156MIPS/proc), Dec2000
z990, 32 processors, 9BIPS, (281MIPS/proc), 2003
z9, 54 processors, 18BIPS (333MIPS/proc), July2005
z10, 64 processors, 30BIPS (469MIPS/proc), Feb2008
z196, 80 processors, 50BIPS (625MIPS/proc), Jul2010
EC12, 101 processors, 75BIPS (743MIPS/proc), Aug2012
max configured z196 @50BIPS is $28M or $560k/BIPS

max configured ec12 @75BIPS is $33M or $440k/BIPS and a processor is 743 times that of 370/158 from 40yrs ago.

moore's law has been about circuit size decreasing ... early on benefited by getting more circuits on chip and performance having to go off-chip less (3033 started out as 168-3 logic mapped to 20% faster chips but had 10times circuits/chip, some last minute logic revision to better leverage going off-chip less got 3033 up to 50% faster than 168-3).

note 2010 IBM had base list price for E5-2600 blade of $1815 that have been benchmarked at 527BIPS ... or $3.44/BIPS ... E5-2600 had two 8core chips ... for 16proc or 33BIPS/proc. there has been one turn of the process crank since then and they are just starting to benchmark the next turn of the process crank ....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8046/pricing-and-details-for-intels-devils-canyon-and-unlocked-pentium-leaked-online-i7-4790k-i5-4690k-g3258

note that manufactures are saying they now ship more server chips directly to large cloud operators (than to brand name server vendors like HP, DELL, IBM, etc) and the large cloud operators claim they assemble their own servers for 1/3rd the price of brand name vendors (say around $1/BIPS compared to around half-mil/BIPS for mainframe).

one of the issues is that memory access latency hasn't kept up with increase in processor cycle performance ... when the memory access latency is counted in number of processor cycles ... it is about the same as 1960s disk access latency measured in number of 1960s 360 processor cycles.

The increasing mismatch of memory access latency started to result in hardware processor design more akin to 360 software multitasking (overlapping execution while waiting for disk access) ... starting at least two decades ago in risc & i86 cisc processor designs ... out-of-order instruction execution, branch prediction, speculative execution, hyperthreading (continue executing other instructions while waiting for memory access).

The claim is that similar features start to appear in z196, accounting for over half the increase in z196 per processor MIPS rate (compared to z10 per processor MIPS rate, at least half the 156MIPS increase from 469 to 625) because of starting to introduce similar features ... with some further introduction in ec12 (part of the 118MIPS increase from 625 to 743)

recent BIPS postings:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#94 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#97 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#27 IBM sells x86 server business to Levono
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#102 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#22 US Federal Reserve pushes ahead with Faster Payments planning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#94 Optimization, CPU time, and related issues
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#96 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#4 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#12 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#53 IBM hopes new chip can turn the tables on Intel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?

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The Decline and Fall of IBM

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Decline and Fall of IBM
Date: 09 June 2014
Blog: Facebook (& Google+)
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#0 The Decline and Fall of IBM

as an aside, reference to individual motivation and feelings is frequently considered obfuscation and misdirection ... this has been brought up regarding lots of the press around the intelligence agency breach from year ago. and some more drift regarding financialization and ibm buyback contraption on steroids ... from today: financialization on steroids
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/06/confronting-financialization-steroids.html

You missed the point in Stockman and other articles ... it is financialization in lieu of and replacing R&D investment that it is bad ... basically the reference to increasingly becoming cash strip mining.

It didn't start after IBM going into the red in the early 90s .. reference to Mandelbrot resigning in protest over IBM ending pure research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit_Mandelbrot

there was an executive interview as part of my departure summer of 1992, during the interview, i was told that they could have forgiven me for being wrong, but they were never going to forgive me for being right. the whole thing had probably been aggravated by wife periodically reminding executives that I had never been wrong (at least about anything they were aware of).

so far it seems on target but glossing over some details. he talks about some things that Gerstner did right and then gets into many things that Gerstner did that laid many of seeds for current decline. One of the things is unloading networking business because it was least productive and most expensive of IBM operations ... however, networking operations was needed as part of customer services support ... which was major new business focus.

I've recently finished "Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture" that makes the case that PR people are possibly most skilled group in the Navy, getting lots of practice turning out coverup stores for incompetent commanders and faulty equipment.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#90 Can America Win Wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#1 Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture

There is analogy with IBM communication group in the 80s ... disconnect between their marketing information and reality. In this period, the disk division was making presentations that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division (because of the stranglehold that the communication group had on mainframe datacenters ... also major factor for company going into the red in the early 90s). The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms and had come up with several solutions to address the problems, which were constantly being vetoed by the communication group (which had corporate strategic ownership for everything that crossed the datacenter walls). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

posts mentioning gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 9 Jun 2014 16:49:54 -0700
deerhome@IX.NETCOM.COM (Bob Rutledge) writes:

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/history/museum-gordon-moore-law.html


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law

370/168-3 3MIPS approx 40yrs ago, ec12 743MIPS processor, 248times, approx. 1.23 to 1.24 times every 18m

this explains a hiccup between 168 and 3033&3081 ... because 370 efforts were being shutdown during the FS period (3033 & 3081 were mad rush to try and catch up using warmed over FS technology)
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

however acs/360 would have increased much faster ... but it was shutdown because top executives were worried that it would increase state-of-the-art too fast and IBM would loose control of the market. at the bottom of the page, it discusses some of the acs/360 features that don't show up until more than 20yrs later with es/9000
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

1978 8086 between .3-.7mips
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors

1978 say 500KIPS (.5MIPS), doubling every 18m is about 8TIPS (8000BIPS); it is now off by about factor of 100times, 10cores/chip sort-of cuts it to off by 10times.

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Jun 2014 09:51:17 -0700
sipples@SG.IBM.COM (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Your choice of workloads for conducting such measurements matters far more than anything else. If you constrain your universe of workloads to only those that can "conveniently" run on the oldest system, you're already putting your thumb on the scale in favor of that oldest system. "MIPS" does that. Surely it should be obvious that one zEC12 MIPS is on a completely different planet than one S360-M65 MIPS.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law

different planet also shows up with the large cloud operators, their scale of operation is such that they now assemble their own servers for 1/3rd the price of brand name vendors (hp, dell, ibm, etc) and the server chip makers say they are now shipping more chips directly to cloud operators than to brand name vendors.

some big shifts ... the cloud operators view systems as cost item while the brand name vendors view systems as profit items. the other is that the large cloud operators have reduced system costs so enormously ... that system cost/BIPS is no longer dominating factor (behind faster & faster systems at lower cost) but energy/BIPS costs ... motivating shift from focus on pure throughput to increasing focus on energy efficiency.

they previously had to grapple with the largest systems that weren't large enough to meet requirements and built megadatacenters typically with hundreds of thousands of systems (with millions of processors ... a typical megadatacenter has more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today), having to deal with all the details of scaling to large millions of components.

with the enormous drop in system costs ... a megadatacenter can possibly justify complete roll-over of all systems every chip generation or two based on energy savings (also one of the reasons that the cloud megadatacenters have been on the forefront of green computing). also behind increasing references to energy efficiency in product news. Big megadatacenters are also testing non-i86 chips that were originally developed for battery useage power efficiency.

some large part of the (cost, throughput, power useage, etc) innovation over the past two decades is attributed to competing companies producing chips

recent mention of Moore's Law

Computex 2014: Intel says Moore's Law will drive the next era in computing
http://www.zdnet.com/computex-2014-intel-says-moores-law-will-drive-the-next-era-in-computing-7000030178/
Intel president: Expanding processor technology for smart computing
http://www.infotechlead.com/2014/06/06/intel-president-expanding-processor-technology-smart-computing-23211

other industry standard benchmarks are less useful for demonstrating "moore's law" (throughput over the decades) ... because they are periodically updated to reflect current conditions (more oriented towards reflecting throughput across a broad range of systems).

one set of long-time industry standard benchmarks
http://www.tpc.org/information/about/history.asp
by Jim (I worked with Jim at IBM SJR during days of the original relational/sql implementation ... and then he was palming bunch of stuff on me when he was leaving for tandem)
http://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray.asp

IBM has extensive participation here, but only for their non-mainframe platforms ... mainframe benchmarks haven't been available for decades.

recent posts mentioning benchmarks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#94 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#94 Optimization, CPU time, and related issues
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#38 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Jun 2014 11:14:55 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law

part of the issue of applying Moore's law to mainframes was that they had more like 7-8yr cycle ... rather than 18m ... as well as the FS period in the first half of the 70s when all 370 work was being shutdown ... and then again in the first half of the 90s when the company had gone into the red (email from people in POK would include tagline asking the last person to leave POK, to please turn out the lights).

In the wake of the FS failure ... 3033 & 3081 were both kicked-off in parallel, the really fast effort to remap 168-3 logic to 20% faster chips (for 3033) and longer effort for 3081 (but both using warmed over FS technology) ... more detail
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

nearly as soon as the 3033 was out the door ... ships spring 1978
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/3033/3033_CH01.html
the 3033 processor engineers start on 3090 ... spring 1985 (1st really "new" 370 effort since death of FS in the mid 70s)
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3090.html

1990, the us auto industry has the C4 taskforce to completely remake the industry ... because they plan on heavily leveraging technology, several technology vendors are asked to participate. they explain the US auto industry has been on 7-8yr product cycles, running two in parallel offset by 3-4yrs ... with minor cosmetic changes in intervening years. the trouble is that foreign imports had cut their product cycle to 3-4yrs in the early 80s and by 1990 were about to cut to under 2yrs (providing enormous competitive advantage). Offline at the C4 meetings I would kid the mainframe participants from POK how they were going to help since they had the same problem. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

acs/360 had been killed in the 60s because management was afraid that it would advance the state-of-the-art too fast and they would loose control of the market.
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html
finally over 20yrs later, acs/360 features start showing up with the es/9000 in 1990.
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_FS9000.html

the approx equivalent Intel process is now called tick-tock (every 18m one tick or one tock)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

trivia: the auto import quotas from 1980 were put in place to significant reduce competition and significantly improve US industry profit that they would use to completely remake themselves ... however they just pocketed the money and continued business as usual. the 1990 c4 was another attempt to completely remake themselves ... but there was so many stakeholders in the status-quo that little changed. recent references are that even with the bailouts, nothing has significantly changed.

other trivia: I'm part of a group that visit POK in the mid-70s with design for 16-way 370 multiprocessor and get the 3033 processor engineers to work on it in their spare time (lot more interesting than 3033) and everybody really thinks it is fantastic. Then somebody tells the head of POK that it could be decades befor the POK favorite son operating system has useful 16-way support. He then asks some of us to never visit POK again and tells the 3033 processor engineers to keep their nose to the grindstone (and never be distracted again).

they are up to 12 in 1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_ESA/390

and z900 finally hits 16 last month of 2000 (almost 25yrs later)

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Jun 2014 14:41:13 -0700
0000000248cce9f3-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Ed Finnell) writes:
Sorry I just did cut and paste from Wiki. Looked OK in composition. Think listserv may have intervened.

Z12: chip measures 597.24 mm2 and consists of 2.75 billion transistors.

Z10: The chip measures 21.7×20.0 mm and consists of 993 million transistors.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law

missed single table with transistor count back to 1971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor_count

includes 4-core z196 and 6-core ec12 ... but also ibm power and cell.

also various other kinds of technology

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 10 Jun 2014 16:01:05 -0700
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
missed single table with transistor count back to 1971
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor_count

includes 4-core z196 and 6-core ec12 ... but also ibm power and cell.

also various other kinds of technology


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law

uses 32nm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_nanometer

ibm needs a large number of partners to get volume justifying a foundry ... since the total number of mainframe chips doesn't come close to justifying a fab
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/36465.wss
and
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2007/12/ibms-fab-alliance-gears-up-for-battle-at-32nm/

ibm financials had it doing equivalent approx. 120 max configured z196, 80processors (20 4-core chips) or 2400chips/year.

most recent 1qtr2014 financial has IBM doing equivalent approx 18 max. configure ec12, 56 on annualized basis, 101processors (maybe 20 6-core chips), 1120 chips/annum. with such a small market, mainframe has to heavily rely on process technologies developed for other purposes with much higher volume.

i did security chip ... smaller than processor chip, got 3000 chips per wafer and minimum prototype run was six wafers (18,000 chips), i had to do walk-thru/audit even tho it was already gov. certified (infineon, dresden, see list of fabs).

each new turn of process requires significant new investment

tick tock has 22nm in spring of 2012 and 14nm this year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

new 14nm fab is $5B
http://www.desktopreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1358
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-fab42-14nm-cpu-factory,14545.html

volume production of 450mm (18in diameter) wafers (up from 300mm/12in diameter over twice the area and over twice as many chips per wafer)

list of fabs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

wafers/month production rates between 10k to 80k

300mm wafer is approx. 70,000 sq mm, 6core ec12@597mm works out to something around 118 chips/wafer ... an annualized requirement of 1120 chips/year would be less than 10wafers. running fab 720hrs/month and 10k wafers/month, then wafer every 5mins. 10wafers for full yrs mainframe production then takes less than hr @10k/month, or around 7mins @80k/month.

450mm wafer better than doubles area and number of chips/wafer ... at same process cost.
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1319230

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Jun 2014 07:38:39 -0700
elardus.engelbrecht@SITA.CO.ZA (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes:
I also learned a lot thanks to you and your posts. Those posts from Anne and Lynn Wheeler got me wheeling around with all those interesting tid-bits which I'm still trying to digest... :-)

... mainframe chips now have to be made from process developed for other purposes ... since full yrs production of mainframe chips can be done in a couple minutes ... and they have to run a fab line nearly 7x24 all year to recover cost building fab. ec12@597, new 450mm wafer is 159,000 sq mm, or approx 266chips/wafer ... needing 1120chips/annum is 4wafers (less than typical minimum wafer run) ... fab doing 80K wafers/month is a couple minutes. if next generation went from 32nm to 14nm proccess less than half the size, approx. 5times the circuits per area, then possibly 30core ec12 chip in 597nm (instead of six-core) ... max. configured ec12 in four (30core) processor chips ... and full year market of mainframe sales with one wafer.

similarly there haven't been any CKD DASD manufactured for decades, being simulated on industry standard fixed-block disks and IBM FICON channels are done with a heavy-weight simulation protocol layer on industry standard FCS (that also significantly cuts the native FCS throughput).

post mentioning ficon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
posts mentioning CKD DASD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dasd

past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law

for disk capacity topic drift ... old post about progression of 3380 capacity (by cutting inter-track distance (starting out 20track widths distance between tracks) with several ancient email refs.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#52

includes refs to proposal for doing wide-head that would read/write 16 data tracks in parallel (allowing nearly eliminating inter-track spacing) ... happening about the time that vertical recording was just starting to appear.

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Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Jun 2014 10:04:01 -0700
Lindy.Mayfield@SAS.COM (Lindy Mayfield) writes:
It is quite clear that IBM mainframes follow Moore's law, and I wanted to see if I could verify that somehow.

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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law

for quite awhile, mainframes are using circuit technology developed for other purposes ... so it is only incidental that mainframes are following Moore's law.

with scores of multi-billion dollar high-tech fabs around the world producing hundreds of thousands of wafers per year (needed to run around the clock to recover the cost of building the fab).

mainframe market is possibly now only needing one or two wafers per year ... so you aren't seeing all of this circuit advances based on the mainframe market .... you aren't going to develop 14nm circuit technology and build the necessary $5B fab to just produce a single wafer/yr for the mainframe market.

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Jun 2014 13:06:43 -0700
Cringely recently published: "The Decline and Fall of IBM"
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

loc1366-69:
THE HARDWARE PROBLEM: IBM's hardware business has struggled the most recently, and turned in a big loss in 2013. Its difficulties are a direct result of Moore's Law. Moore's Law says that we expect technology to double in capability about every 18 months. There are many ways to spin this law, but the important one is from the customer's perspective. The customer expects to get twice the value from the same amount of money every 18 months.

... snip ...

incremental cost per wafer is relatively constant ... i.e. major motivation moving from 300mm wafers to larger 450mm wafers (more chips per wafer at same cost).

going from 32nm technology, 300mm wafers to 14nm technology & 450mm wafers ... significantly increases the number of circuits per wafer. If you have 32nm chip and just move it to 14nm with same number of circuits/chip, you have smaller, faster, and more power-efficient chip.

Moving at same time from 300mm to 450mm wafers means that there also are almost 12times as many smaller, faster and more power-efficient chips per wafer ... with large enough volume (that covers the upfront change-over costs) ... then the intel Moore's law model has fab producing 12times more smaller, faster and more power-efficient chips for the same cost (or per chip cost drops by factor of 12).

If such a seismic shift were to be applied to ec12 ... in theory it would be going from $33M for max. configured ec12 @75BIPS to something like 100BIPS for possible only $3M.

past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law

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Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Jun 2014 14:16:43 -0700
Patrick.Mullen@GWL.CA (Mullen, Patrick) writes:
Isn't this a bit like saying that because the price of the chips in a 1990 Lexus vs those in a 2014 Lexus has dropped by a factor of (say) 1000, a 2014 Lexus should cost $50?

Silly analogy I know, but more seriously, what proportion of the current $33M does go to pay for the chips?


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law

yep, in the intel and moore's law model .... that exactly what is being talked about ... there are periodically examples just exactly like that ... what if other things tracked computer prices that followed Moore's law.

also large cloud operators are saying that they get their chips directly and do their own system assembly for 1/3rd the price of brand name server systems (which already have significantly lower markup than mainframes).

server chip vendors are saying that they are now shipping more chips directly to the cloud operators ... than to brand name vendors ... combination has put increasing downward pressure on brand name server prices ... which possibly also accounts for why IBM is selling that server business ... something that Cringely also discusses in some detail.

it is contrasted to HP ... which is signing agreements to stay in that business. Cringely gets into nearly all of the stated new IBM business growth are markets that require enormous numbers of such servers ... putting IBM at competitive disadvantage if it isn't doing its own (possibly break-even on the hardware but provides competitive advantage on providing services based on the hardware).

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Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 11 Jun 2014 16:18:42 -0700
Patrick.Mullen@GWL.CA (Mullen, Patrick) writes:
Isn't this a bit like saying that because the price of the chips in a 1990 Lexus vs those in a 2014 Lexus has dropped by a factor of (say) 1000, a 2014 Lexus should cost $50?

Silly analogy I know, but more seriously, what proportion of the current $33M does go to pay for the chips?


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law

forty years of moore's law
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2002244366_moorelaw18.html

from above:
"If the automobile industry moved this fast, your car would move at a million miles per hour and it would get 50,000 miles per gallon," said Moore, 76, in a recent press conference.

... snip ...

... and cost only $50

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Check out IBM Said Near Deal With Globalfoundries for Chip-Making - Bloomberg

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Subject: Re: Check out IBM Said Near Deal With Globalfoundries for Chip-Making - Bloomberg
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 12 Jun 2014 05:36:57 -0700
Report says IBM nears chip deal
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/money/companies/ibm/2014/06/11/report-ibm-deal-globafoundries/10352095/

from above:
The news that GlobalFoundries may not be interested in the plants leaves open the prospect that IBM workers would leave the plants, a major blow to Dutchess County's economy. The report cited a source saying the chip division was losing $1.5 billion a year, but IBM has not publicly reported that.

... snip ...

i.e. want intellectual property ... but not existing plants

list of major foundaries from moore's law thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

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Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 12 Jun 2014 06:37:09 -0700
jchase@USSCO.COM (Chase, John) writes:
Hmmm.... Might "3D Printing" be a precursor to Star Trek's "Replicator" technology? That could render just about everything "free". But then many would need bigger closets....

on-demand computing ... on-demand (3d printed) clothes, when done wearing ... just put in recycle ... no need for closets at all.

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Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law

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Subject: Re: Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 12 Jun 2014 22:22:56 -0700
mitchdana@GMAIL.COM (Dana Mitchell) writes:
Well, yes I can, I can run it at home too....

My point was, when will it be uneconomical enough for IBM to quit producing 'real' z CPs and only offer z machines running on power cores?


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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#13 Demonstrating Moore's law

for all we know, they may be close to that now. starting about two decades ago, i86 started moving to risc cores with hardware layer translating i86 instructions into risc microops ... as a result, they have now largely negated the throughput difference between i86 and risc processors.

for a little other drift ...
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

a couple old posts "From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time" refers to zVM cluster when HONE vm370 had large cluster single-system-image in late 70s and purescale commerical/rdbms scaleup when we were to do ha/cmp cluster scaleup in 1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 ..

i.e. 17yrs later ... aka ha/cmp 128-way cluster scaleup by ye92 supporting commercial, RDBMS, numeric/scientic, national labs, massive filesystem, etc; meeting on rdbms part in ellison's conference room jan1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
other ha/cmp posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
cluster scaleup email from the period
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

by feb1992, the scaleup had been transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors, and announced as supercomputer for technical and scientific *ONLY*

in early 90s, we were working with non-ibm rdbms vendors for ha/cmp cluster because 1) ibm only had mainframe rdbms and 2) other vendors had common source base for their open systems and their vax/cluster implementation (i could simplify operation in ha/cmp cluster scaleup by providing cluster API semantics that resembled vax/cluster ... also a couple of these vendors had list of ten things dec had done wrong in vax/cluster that they wanted me to avoid).

Part of the motivation for the transfer and announce for technical and scientific only ... could have been mainframe RDBMS (DB2) people complaining that if i was allowed to go ahead, it would be way ahead of anything they had

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Subject: Re: Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 13 Jun 2014 07:30:01 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#16

ibm press from 17feb1992, "scientific and technical only"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2
more ibm press 11may1992, "company caught by surprise by national lab interest in cluster computing"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

however, old email about doing benchmarks for LLNL interested in cluster compute farm of 70 4341s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
other old 4341 email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

1980, I get con'ed into doing channel-extender support for IBM STL (now silicon valley lab) that was remoting 300 people from the IMS group to offsite bldg. An effort to release it to customers is blocked by group in POK that have been playing with some serial stuff and they were afraid it might make it more difficult to get what they were doing released. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

mid-80s, I'm trying to get project started that would have large number of 370 & 801/risc chips in racks. at the same time i'm working with NSF on interconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers (morphs into NSFNET backbone, the precursor to modern internet). old email about schedule conflict between internal meeting and making presentation to director of NSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850314 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email850315 ..

eventually NSF releases an RFP, but internal politics prevent us from bidding. Director of NSF tries to help by writing company a letter (with support from other gov. agencies), but that just makes the internal politics worse. other old NSF related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

1988, LLNL has some serial stuff and I'm asked if I can help them get it out as industry standard ... eventually morphs into the fibre-channel standard.

Even tho by then it is obsolete, the POK group finally gets their serial stuff released in 1990 with ES/9000 as ESCON.

1992, we are using the LLNL fibre-channel standard stuff as part of the ha/cmp commercial cluster scaleup ... old ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
in some of the collection of old cluster scaleup email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
the last one is about cluster computing meeting at LLNL (very end of jan1992). I'm unable to make the meeting so a friend at another vendor fills in for me and then comes by later to fill me in on what happened (only hrs before we are told that cluster scaleup has been transferred and we can't work on anything with more than four processors)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email920129

some POK engineers eventually get involved in the fibre-channel stuff, defining a heavyweight protocol layer (that significantly cuts the native thruput) which eventually morphs into FICON ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

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After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out

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Subject: Re: After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:07:13 -0400
greymausg writes:
For various meanings of help :).. Sadly, most of them arefar from salt water.

Peculiar thing, the UK and France are building aircraft carriers between them. Now, in the unlikely happening of them going to war (Most continental wars up to WWI involved Germany and UK, against France), would the UK have the use of the Aircraft-Carriers one day to attack France, and France likewise the next day?. Every day, catch-22 seems less fantasy.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#100 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out

Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
http://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Not-Learned-Status-Culture-ebook/dp/B00DKMWP2Q/

has us naval war games going back to 80s have allied modern diesel-electric submarine tasked as red-team against us carrier battle group ... and nearly everytime they pop up undectected and take out the carrier (and some number of ships)

recent accounts about uk navy getting f35s ... but it is not clear that they will operate with the british carriers ... of course there is lots of ongoing controversy about f35 in general

other recent post in this thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#72 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#73 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out

some recent posts mentioning f-35:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#0 Navy's F-35C Completes Landing Tests Ahead of October Sea Trials
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#1 If We Don't Keep The F-22 Raptor Viable, The F-35 Fleet Will Be Irrelevant'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#4 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#40 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#51 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#81 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#85 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#86 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#92 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#69 Littoral Warfare Ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#96 Lockheed Martin F-35 Jet's Software Delayed, GAO Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#1 Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#22 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#48 The Pentagon Is Playing Games With Its $570-Billion Budget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#51 Has the last fighter pilot been born?

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weird trivia

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Subject: Re: weird trivia
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:53:36 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
On reflection, I think OS/360 might have entered an enabled wait state, waiting for something to happen.

nearly all of the 360/370 systems entered "wait state" and interrupts would bring them back alive.

however, in the days of leasing ... and before change-over to all machines being sold ... charges were based on the system meter ... which ran whenever the cpu and/or any channels were active (the cpu could be in wait state, but if there was active i/o going on, the system meter still ran).

in part as supporting 7x24 system availability, there was lots of work done on cp67 to reduce offshift costs ... early on leaving system up 7x24 for online access had little offshift use (and typical datacenter operations recovered their costs by use charges) ... but it was necessary to have 7x24 availability if off-shift use was to be encouraged.

part of this was lots of work on automated operator and lights out operation ... so machines could be left on w/o any human around offshift. Another part was doing special terminal i/o channel programming so that the channel would be idle when there was no incoming charaters ... but still be able to accept characters when they started arriving (in order that the system meter would actually come to a stop when there was no activity).

a "feature" of the system meter was everything had to be totally idle for at least 400ms before the system meter stops. Note that MVS (the descendant of os/360 and the POK favorite son operation system) still had a system timer event interrupt every 400ms long after business had been converted from lease to sales ... and system meter charges were no longer a factor.

as an aside, many of the 360&370 machines had integrated channels, the native engine was shared executing the 360/370 instruction microcode and the integrated channel microcode ... so even if the CPU was in "wait" state (aka idle), the native engine could still be running, executing the channel microcode

recent posts mentioning automated operator and/or system meter:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#4 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#48 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#85 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#93 Costs of core

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 15 Jun 2014 08:08:41 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#13 Demonstrating Moore's law

in the wake of FS failure ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

there was a made rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines (370 efforts were being killed off &/or suspended during the fs period) ... including using warmed over FS tech for 3033&3081.

i was told that one reason 370/158 was chosen for 303x channel director was incremental manufacturing cost of 158 was $1000. A 3031 was 158 engine with 370 m'code and w/o 158 integrated channel microcode plus a 2nd 158 engine with integrated channel microcode (& w/o 370 microcode). A 3032 was 168-3 with 168 external channels replaced with 303x channel director (158 engine). A 3033 was 168-3 logic remapped to 20% faster chips and one or more 303x channel directors.

about the same time there was an article that the incremetal manufacturing cost of an automobile was four hundred and some odd dollars.

Intel has spent $5B on new fab for the latest 14nm chip technology. If they sold only one chip they would have to add the $5B fab cost to the price of the chip. If they sell a billion chips, they only have to add $5 to the price of each chip (and they have to recover the fab cost before it is obsolete and they have to move to a new fab with the next generation of chip technology).

this somewhat comes up in the discussion about ibm selling its chip fab business ... and possibly nobody wanting to acquire the east fishkill and burlington fabs. in an (linkedin) ibm employee discussion, somebody pointed out that ibm hasn't had new investment in those fabs for years. Part of the implication of moore's law is that there is new chip technology generation every couple years requiring brand new fab technology (and typically brand new fab). recent references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#33 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#43 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#54 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#14 Check out IBM Said Near Deal With Globalfoundries for Chip-Making - Bloomberg

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Is end of mainframe near?

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Is end of mainframe near?
Date: 15 June 2014
Blog: Mainframe Expert
a little more
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

a couple old posts "From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time" refers to zVM cluster when HONE vm370 had large cluster single-system-image in late 70s and purescale commerical/rdbms scaleup when we were to do ha/cmp cluster scaleup in 1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 ..

i.e. 17yrs later ... aka ha/cmp 128-way cluster scaleup by ye92 supporting commercial, RDBMS, numeric/scientic, national labs, massive filesystem, etc; meeting on rdbms part in ellison's conference room jan1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
other ha/cmp posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
cluster scaleup email from the period
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

by feb1992, the scaleup had been transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors, and announced as supercomputer for technical and scientific *ONLY*

in early 90s, we were working with non-ibm rdbms vendors for ha/cmp cluster because 1) ibm only had mainframe rdbms and 2) other vendors had common source base for their open systems and their vax/cluster implementation (i could simplify operation in ha/cmp cluster scaleup by providing cluster API semantics that resembled vax/cluster ... also a couple of these vendors had list of ten things dec had done wrong in vax/cluster that they wanted me to avoid).

Part of the motivation for the transfer and announce for technical and scientific only ... could have been mainframe RDBMS (DB2) people complaining that if i was allowed to go ahead, it would be way ahead of anything they had

With regard to cloud, one of the issues was that about the time it was first announced that IBM was going to invest (total of) $1.2B in the cloud, there was an article that Google had been investing over $2B/qtr (nearly $10B/annum) for some time in cloud datacenters (and apparently other large cloud operations are similar)

recent posts mentioning Cringely:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#24 IBM sells Intel server business, company is doomed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#108 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#110 weird power trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law

past psots in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#81 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#84 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#8 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#53 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?

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$40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: $40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
Date: 15 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
$40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-missile-defense-20140615-story.html

"Merchants of Doubt"
http://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Doubt-Erik-M-Conway-ebook/dp/B003RRXXO8/

has big overlap with team b.

big thing to remember about U2 was that Eisenhower had used the photo recon to debunk the airforce claims about "bomber gap" (attempt at 20percent increase in dod budget for bombers) ... a significant factor leading to Eisenhower's warning about military-industrial complex in his goodby speech.

Later head of CIA was rejecting team b analysis and the administration replaced him with somebody that would go along with team b analysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
later the person is vp in the administration during star wars period. Also the iran/iraq war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
and even supplying WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

but VP claims that he didn't know anything about the activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

because he was occupied as the administration point person for financial deregulation ... where his family was also involved, including
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan

later team b is still involved in iraq conflict last decade.

posts mentioning team b
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
posts mentioning military-industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

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weird trivia

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: weird trivia
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:24:51 -0400
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
Your eth0 flickers because eth0 is still powered up to handle wake-on-lan packets. The flickering means you either have other active systems on your lan (sending ARP requests and the occasional route update) or you have microsoft systems on your lan (sending gazillions of useless broadcast packets, under the misguided assumption there are only a couple of systems ever on a subnet).

something that i periodically reposted ... 1996 MDC at Moscone, all the banners said "Internet" but in all the sessions they would say "protect your investment". From the days of small, private, closed, safe LANs they had visual basic code added to files and automatically executed. they were adding low-level tcp/ip networking support w/o changing any of the rest of the infrastructure and/or providing countermeasures to the wild anarchy of the internet. Their "protect you investment" quickly became the dominant exploits on the internet. That spawned add-on filter industry scanning incoming traffic for known virus signatures (as countermeasure) that becomes swamped with ever increasing number.

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IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
Date: 16 June 2014
Blog: IBMers
IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/44061.wss

for a little other drift ...
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

IBM also announces it is aggressively moving into cloud operation and services ... IBM Plans Big Spending for the Cloud ($1.2B)
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/ibm-plans-big-spending-for-the-cloud/

for comparison, this article claims google is spending over $2B per quarter on cloud megadatacenters (say $9B-$10B annually)
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/12/02/in-iowa-a-field-becomes-a-huge-google-server-farm/

other large cloud operations are spending similarly

recent refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#97 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#4 IBM Plans Big Spending for the Cloud ($1.2B)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#14 IBM to invest 1.2B into Cloud Data Centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#27 IBM sells x86 server business to Levono
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#24 IBM sells Intel server business, company is doomed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#108 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#110 weird power trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#0 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#3 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:52:39 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
This directly contradicts an article I read the other day that said the demand for high-tech talent peaked around 2000 and has been declining ever since. The Great Recession only accelerated the trend. College grads are taking jobs that high school grads used to fill and so on down the ladder.

early 80s was big fad to take compsci ... mit considered that so many people were applying to compsci that they were in danger of turning into a compsci only school (former coworker at science center and mit graudate was on the study group that looked at problem). univ-of-cal. system was trying to spread all the compsci applicants across all the campuses (not just Berkeley)

late 90s, there was the internet bubble at same time as y2k. lots of institutions were trying to hire temporary for y2k remediation ... but they were in competition with enormous compensation in the internet bubble. a lot of y2k remediation work went overseas because problems competing with internet bubble. after y2k work and internet bubble burst there was lot less demand *AND* a lot of the institution relationships from y2k remediation accelerated "offshoring"

Cringely new book
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

references IBM fabricating LEAN to mask it was offshoring jobs loc736-38:
The Toyota Production System--more magical thinking: IBM's LEAN was supposed to have been based on another program called Lean (not LEAN) that characterized the Toyota Production System (TPS)--Toyota Motors' answer to Henry Ford's method of mass production.

loc743-44:
IBM initially called its program LEAN, though apparently that's not an acronym. Later the name was changed to Lean, presumably to be more like Toyota, but to differentiate between the two I will call IBM's program LEAN, and Toyota's will be Lean.

loc754-56:
"What IBM is doing isn't Lean at all," explained Mark Graban, a recognized expert in Lean methodology for service industries like health care and IT. "In fact, Lean as practiced by Toyota, began with a vow by management that no jobs will be eliminated because a successful company will always need more good workers. Duties might change but there would be no layoffs."

... snip ...

I've mentioned auto industry taskforce in 1990 looking at remake themselves to meet foreign competiton (never actually could the changes) ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

I've mentioned in the past that there has been some amount of comparison with TPS and Boyd's OODA-loop ... boyd posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

recent posts on cringely's new book:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#0 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#3 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong

some past internet bubble, y2k, and/or offshoring:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#21 Roads as Runways Was: Re: BA Solves Y2K (Was: Re: Chinese Solve Y2K)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#22 Roads as Runways Was: Re: BA Solves Y2K (Was: Re: Chinese Solve Y2K)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#24 BA Solves Y2K (Was: Re: Chinese Solve Y2K)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#214 Ask about Certification-less Public Key
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#0 2000 = millennium?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#65 Dijkstra on "The End of Computing Science"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#28 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#31 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#45 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#55 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#67 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#71 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#81 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#85 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#28 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#57 OT: The dynamics of the Indian IT industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#29 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#56 Offshore IT ... again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#2 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#39 Who said "The Mainframe is dead"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#51 stop worrying about it offshoring - it's doing fine
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#66 Integer types for 128-bit addressing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#20 I told you ... everybody is going to Dalian,China
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#37 The 8008 (was: Blinky lights WAS: The SR-71 Blackbird was designed ENTIRELYwith slide rules)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#6 X509 digital certificate for offline solution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#24 Hi-tech no panacea for ID theft woes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005s.html#16 Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#21 Taxes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#36 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#40 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#7 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#28 Jim Gray Is Missing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#51 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#42 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#39 India is outsourcing jobs as well
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#26 The new urgency to fix online privacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#36 Students mostly not ready for math, science college courses
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#63 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#19 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#76 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#37 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#51 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#81 Is IT becoming extinct?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#65 How do you manage your value statement?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#76 lack of information accuracy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#27 VMware Chief Says the OS Is History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#55 Can outsourcing be stopped?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#2 IBM 'pulls out of US'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#9 Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#77 Financial Regulatory Reform - elimination of loophole allowing special purpose institutions outside Bank Holding Company (BHC) oversigh
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#18 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#37 Disksize history question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#25 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#37 Young Developers Get Old Mainframers' Jobs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#63 U.S. students behind in math, science, analysis says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#67 I would like to understand the professional job market in US. Is it shrinking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#20 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#81 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#53 Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#65 Of interest to the Independent Contractors on the list
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#84 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#19 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#38 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#76 Mainframe hacking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#22 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#41 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#39 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#78 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#44 Programmer Charged with thieft (maybe off topic)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#69 No command, and control
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#32 CMS Sort Descending?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#22 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#33 The real cost of outsourcing (and offshoring)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#59 SSL digital certificates
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#67 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#8 'Megalomania, Insanity' Fueled Bubble: Munger
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#9 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#28 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#64 Silicon Valley's Undertaker: We're Anticipating a Major Fallout'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#4 Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#49 Does outsourcing cause data loss?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#18 Great Brian Arthur article on the Second Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#44 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#94 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#132 Yes Virginia, Electronic Signatures Are Legal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#29 Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#34 Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#84 A Conversation with Peter Thiel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#2 NASA unplugs their last mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#16 IBM cuts more than 1,000 U.S. Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#20 Are mothers naturally better at OODA because they always have the Win in mind?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#24 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#25 Time to competency for new software language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#81 The Pentagon's New Defense Clandestine Service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#95 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#75 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#81 GBP13tn: hoard hidden from taxman by global elite
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#45 If all of the American earned dollars hidden in off shore accounts were uncovered and taxed do you think we would be able to close the deficit gap?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#20 Hundreds Of Billions Of Dollars Expected To Be Withdrawn From Swiss Banks Amid Tax Evasion Crackdown
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#32 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#34 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#2 Search Google, 1960:s-style
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#26 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#90 Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#33 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#27 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#28 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#46 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#49 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#59 What Makes bank regulation and insurance Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#70 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#72 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#86 What Makes a thread about the European debt crisis Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#95 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#0 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#6 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#11 Secrecy for Sale: Inside the Global Offshore Money Maze
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#13 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#17 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#69 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#80 'Big four' accountants 'use knowledge of Treasury to help rich avoid tax'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#20 How about the old mainframe error messages that actually give you a clue about what's broken
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#54 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#65 The Real Snowden Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#80 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#81 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#82 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#1 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#3 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#26 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#54 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#2 IBM Relevancy in the IT World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#38 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#54 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#55 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#60 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#64 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#69 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#1 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#40 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#60 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#68 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#28 The Reformers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#66 NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales In China
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#92 HSBC exposed in massive data leak in Belgium
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#97 ACA (Obamacare) website problems--article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#2 Did you see the one about the F-35 and F/A-18?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#95 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#26 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#32 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#33 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#51 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#53 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#57 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#98 Credit Suisse cloak-and-dagger' tactics cost US taxpayers billions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#31 Apple's long IRS-Irish history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#76 Crowdsourcing Diplomacy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#79 Kleptocrats hiding funds in US warned 'we will find you'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#61 Association Of Certified Fraud Examiners Release 2014 Report On Fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#94 Why Financialization Has Run Amok

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There Is Still Hope

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: There Is Still Hope
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:26:50 -0400
Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:
My least favourite example, perpetrated by large companies and conslutants (sic) was SOAP and Web Services - RPC over HTTP sanctified by the use of XML. Took 10 years before people twigged it wasn't making good use (to put it mildly) of HTTP/web infrastructure.

HTTP transaction oriented protocol using TCP, a session oriented protocol ... there was period in 1995 as server load started to scaleup, server CPUs were spending 95% of the time in FINWAIT list processing. Most systems had assumed FINWAIT list would only have a trivial few items (list of recently closed TCP sessions to check each incoming packet, if it belonged to session that had already been closed). HTTP transactions using TCP was exploding items on FINWAIT list to tens of thousands. It took six months or so before vendors started shipping rewritten FINWAIT list handling that improved on the problem.

In the meantime large web operations were adding machines like mad and working on gimmicks for load-balance across the available backend servers. First boundary routers sending connects to randomly selected backend servers, then started to see the early implementations of service boundary routers keeping track of number of sessions to each of the backend servers ... implementation continued to be used after deployments of improved FINWAIT list processing.

recent posts mentioning FINWAIT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#13 Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?

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Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
Date: 17 June 2014
Blog: Enterprise Systems
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

for a little other drift ...
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

recent posts mentioning cringely's book
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

thread in ibm-main mailing list about whether mainframe technology is (or isn't) keeping up with "Moore's Law" (i.e. can low-volume operation really track Moore's law)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/sUPqVLa_QUk

Moore's law thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#13 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#15 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#20 Demonstrating Moore's law

mainframe expert's "Is end of mainframe near ?" thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#81 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#84 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#8 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#53 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?

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weird trivia

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: weird trivia
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:11:10 -0400
Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> writes:
Scorched earth tactics were not at all original with Stalin. Every German and Russian officer would know they were successfully used to defend Russia against Napoleon and Charles XII of Sweden.

Sherman "march to the sea" (scorched earth, offense) in the civil war

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:15:55 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
then the internet happened. More compute power was required for the most simple things; the information sources people relied on disappeared into bits. Hardware breaks and noone fixes them so the average computer user replaces all hardware in one swell foop. In the times you're talking about a system would cost $5K. Now a more powerful system costs $300.

"Moore's Law" discussion in ibm mainframe discussion group
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/sUPqVLa_QUk

some of my recent "Moore's Law" posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#13 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#14 Check out IBM Said Near Deal With Globalfoundries for Chip-Making - Bloomberg
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#15 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#20 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#27 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

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Qualitative Easing

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Qualitative Easing
Date: 18 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
"All the Presidents' Bankers", pg114/loc 2738-39:
As The Nation put it, "You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink, and you can offer the banks limitless Federal Reserve credit, but you cannot make them lend."

... snip ...

above is regarding news/press after the crash of '29 during the great depression. Now Bernanke has been characterized as a student/scholar of the great depression and the fed's operation. However, he is quoted as saying that he had expected that after making ($30Trillion in free) money available to the wallstreet too big to fail, they would turn around and lend to main street; and he was surprised when they didn't (and despite the fact that they were suppose to relend to main street, and weren't, the FED still didn't stop the flow).

Similarly (again the great depression), "The Bankers Who Broke The World" pg439:
The two new measures combined -- the infusion of additional capital into the banking system and the injection of reserves -- allowed the Fed finally to pump money into the system on the scale required ... instead of lending out the money used the capital so injected to build up their own reserves.

... snip ...

$10T as of 2010
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1201/Federal-Reserve-s-astounding-report-We-loaned-banks-trillions
$30T as of 2011
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/bailout-total-29-616-trillion-dollars/

too big to fail operating just like they did in the 20s & 30s

Bernanke Pushes for More Small Biz Loans
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/small-business/financing/bernanke-pushes-more-small-biz-loans
Round Two: Bernanke Faces More Grilling From Congress
http://www.cnbc.com/id/35542268/Round_Two_Bernanke_Faces_More_Grilling_From_Congress
Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/geithner-bernanke-have-little-in-arsenal-to-fight-new-crisis/2011/08

Jan2009 I was asked to HTLM'ize the Pecora hearings (30s senate hearings, resulted in convictions, glass-steagall, etc; had been scanned fall2008 at boston public library) with lots of internal HREFs and lots of URLs between what happened this time and what happened then (refs to some expectation that the new congress will have appetite to do something). I worked on it for some time and then got a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (refs to enormous piles of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill; there are lots of refs that what goes on between the two parties is Kabuki theater, little to do with what really goes on behind the scenes).

There are refs that nobody is doing jail time for the current mess that is estimated 70 times larger than S&L mess when 1000 people were convicted of criminal fraud. During the oct2008 congressional hearings into the major role played by the rating agencies (both the sellers and the rating agencies knew that the securities weren't worth triple-A), at the time, some of the tv news commented that the rating agencies would escape federal prosecution by blackmailing the gov.

posts mentioning bernanke
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#bernanke
posts mentioning kabuki theater
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

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The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
Date: 18 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://digg.com/video/the-designer-of-the-f-15-explains-just-how-inanely-stupid-the-f-35-is

Burton spends some time on proposed A10 followon, basically enormous numbers of mini-A10s that are KISS and can be forward deployed and maintained by troops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars

however these days there would strong push for drone/unmanned. note this old ref. has in-theater non-pilot, army NCOs operating drones, doing better job than pilot air force officers in nevada operating essentially same drone:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/29/young_usaf_predator_pilot_officer_slam/

Burton was original graduating class from air force academy and supposedly on fast path for general ... until he got involved in bradley procurement .... and challenged to do the "right thing" ... which was the end of his career.

posts mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

recent posts mentioning a10 &/or f35
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#54 Pensions, was Re: Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#65 Washington Post on Target store data thefts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#82 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#22 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#0 Navy's F-35C Completes Landing Tests Ahead of October Sea Trials
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#1 If We Don't Keep The F-22 Raptor Viable, The F-35 Fleet Will Be Irrelevant'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#4 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#40 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#51 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#66 F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IS A LEMON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#81 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#83 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#85 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#86 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#91 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#92 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#40 Missed Alarms and 40 Million Stolen Credit Card Numbers: How Target Blew It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#47 Stolen F-35 Secrets Now Showing Up in China's Stealth Fighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#69 Littoral Warfare Ship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#96 Lockheed Martin F-35 Jet's Software Delayed, GAO Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#98 The SEC Finally Takes an Interest in Collateralized Loan Obligations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#102 How the IETF plans to protect the web from NSA snooping
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#0 Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#1 Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#6 Credit Card Breach at California DMV Provides Yet Another Warning of Cyber Insecurities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#9 Boyd for Business & Innovation Conference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#18 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#27 TCP/IP Might Have Been Secure From the Start If Not For the NSA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#29 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#32 The dark side of digital banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#78 How the Internet wasn't Commercial Dataprocessing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#19 Is cybersecurity the next banking crisis in the making?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#35 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#36 IBM Historic computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#46 The Pentagon Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#68 A-10 Attack Jets Rack Up Air-to-Air Kills in Louisiana War Game
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#17 Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#22 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#48 The Pentagon Is Playing Games With Its $570-Billion Budget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#51 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#81 weird power trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#18 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:25:25 -0400
Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
I had a very interesting surprise a few years ago in Japan. I spent 7 weeks at a company where they gave me a small conference room as a temp office. One day I came back early from lunch and 20 something young lady was using the conference room to study for the Japanese equivalent of a QED on her lunch break. (She was the person who delivered tea and cookies a couple times a day)

The math that she was studying was about second or third year North American university level advanced calculus.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

from early 90s, census report that half of 18yr olds were functionally illiterate ... and world-wide requirements for literacy and STEM were raising the bar ... threatening to classify even larger numbers as functionally illiterate.

when Japanese auto industry first started building plants in the US, the claim was they had to require junior college degree to get students with high school education.

half of advanced STEM degrees at univ. in Cal. went to foreign born students (mostly far east), I've pontificated in the past those graduates staying in the US was major factor making the silicon valley tech. revolution possible. in the early 90s, all the "4.0" graduates we interviewed were born in far east.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#41 How will current AI/robot stories play when AIs are real?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#45 How will current AI/robot stories play when AIs are real?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#63 OT (sort-of) - Does it take math skills to do data processing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#28 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#45 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#55 Offshore IT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#33 [IBM-MAIN] NY Times editorial on white collar jobs going
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#2 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#42 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#18 The SOB that helped IT jobs move to India is dead!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#18 Low Bar for High School Students Threatens Tech Sector
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#31 Many engineers lack even a four-year degree
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#48 Mozilla v Firefox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#43 Academic priorities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#20 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#21 Taxes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#61 DEC's Hudson fab
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#63 DEC's Hudson fab
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#33 SAT Reading and Math Scores Show Decline
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#7 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#24 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#79 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#31 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#45 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#51 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#80 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#85 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#10 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#30 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#34 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#42 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#68 Poll: oldest computer thing you still use
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#21 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#22 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#31 EZPass: Yes, Big Brother IS Watching You!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#33 EZPass: Yes, Big Brother IS Watching You!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#29 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#39 competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#37 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#51 was: 1975 movie "Three Days of the Condor" tech stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#2 Republican accomplishments and Hoover
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#5 Republican accomplishments and Hoover
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#82 Tell me why the taxpayer should be saving GM and Chrysler (and Ford) managers & shareholders at this stage of the game?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#22 Is Pride going to decimate the auto Industry?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#55 Can outsourcing be stopped?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#20 Five great technological revolutions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#63 U.S. students behind in math, science, analysis says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#13 DEC-10 SOS Editor Intra-Line Editing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#43 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#38 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#3 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#22 60 Minutes News Report:Unemployed for over 99 weeks!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#69 No command, and control
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#80 Chinese and Indian Entrepreneurs Are Eating America's Lunch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#18 21st century India: welcome to the smartest city on the planet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#48 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#36 The Next Convergence: The Future of Economic Growth in a Multispeed World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#65 Can anyone offer some insight
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#18 Great Brian Arthur article on the Second Economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#125 UC-Berkeley and other 'public Ivies' in fiscal peril
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#75 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#39 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#36 Race Against the Machine
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#55 copyright protection/Doug Englebart

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Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
Date: 19 June 2014
Blog: IBM Wild Ducks
for a little other drift ...
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/

"The Decline and Fall of IBM: End of an American Icon?" loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

a couple old posts "From The Annals of Release No Software Before Its Time" refers to zVM cluster when HONE vm370 had large cluster single-system-image in late 70s and purescale commerical/rdbms scaleup when we were to do ha/cmp cluster scaleup in 1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#46 ..

i.e. 17yrs later ... aka ha/cmp 128-way cluster scaleup by ye92 supporting commercial, RDBMS, numeric/scientic, national labs, massive filesystem, etc; meeting on rdbms part in ellison's conference room jan1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
other ha/cmp posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp
cluster scaleup email from the period
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

by feb1992, the scaleup had been transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors, and announced as supercomputer for technical and scientific *ONLY*

in early 90s, we were working with non-ibm rdbms vendors for ha/cmp cluster because 1) ibm only had mainframe rdbms and 2) other vendors had common source base for their open systems and their vax/cluster implementation (i could simplify operation in ha/cmp cluster scaleup by providing cluster API semantics that resembled vax/cluster ... also a couple of these vendors had list of ten things dec had done wrong in vax/cluster that they wanted me to avoid).

Part of the motivation for the transfer and announce for technical and scientific only ... could have been mainframe RDBMS (DB2) people complaining that if i was allowed to go ahead, it would be way ahead of anything they had

ibm press from 17feb1992, "scientific and technical only"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
more ibm press 11may1992, "company caught by surprise" by national lab interest in cluster computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

however, old email about doing benchmarks for LLNL interested in cluster compute farm of 70 4341s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790220
other old 4341 email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

In 1980, I get con'ed into doing channel-extender support for IBM STL (now silicon valley lab) that was remoting 300 people from the IMS group to offsite bldg. An effort to release it to customers is blocked by group in POK that have been playing with some serial stuff and they were afraid it might make it more difficult to get what they were doing released. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

mid-80s, I'm trying to get project started that would have large number of 370 & 801/risc chips in racks. at the same time i'm working with NSF on interconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers (morphs into NSFNET backbone, the precursor to modern internet). old email about schedule conflict between internal meeting and making presentation to director of NSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#email850314 ..
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#email850315 ..

eventually NSF releases an RFP, but internal politics prevent us from bidding. Director of NSF tries to help by writing company a letter (with support from other gov. agencies), but that just makes the internal politics worse (as does comments that what we already have running is at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses) other old NSF related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

In 1988, LLNL has some serial stuff and I'm asked if I can help them get it out as industry standard ... eventually morphs into the fibre-channel standard.

Even tho by then it is obsolete, the POK group finally gets their serial stuff released in 1990 with ES/9000 as ESCON.

In 1992, we are using the LLNL fibre-channel standard stuff as part of the ha/cmp commercial cluster scaleup ... old ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
in some of the collection of old cluster scaleup email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
the last one is about cluster computing meeting at LLNL (very end of jan1992). I'm unable to make the meeting so a friend at another vendor fills in for me and then comes by later to fill me in on what happened (only hrs before we are told that cluster scaleup has been transferred and we can't work on anything with more than four processors)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email920129

some POK engineers eventually get involved in the fibre-channel stuff, defining a heavyweight protocol layer (that significantly cuts the native thruput) which eventually morphs into FICON ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

IBM also announces it is aggressively moving into cloud operation and services ... IBM Plans Big Spending for the Cloud ($1.2B)
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/ibm-plans-big-spending-for-the-cloud/

for comparison, this article claims google is spending over $2B per quarter on cloud megadatacenters (say $9B-$10B annually)
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/12/02/in-iowa-a-field-becomes-a-huge-google-server-farm/

with regard to "cloud-ification" ... the large cloud megadatacenters have hundreds of thousands of systems (a megadatacenter has more dataprocessing power than the aggregate of all IBM mainframes in the world today with cost/BIPS several orders of magnitude less than mainframes) ... and now with their enormous scale of operation:

Intel chases hyperscale datacentres with FPGA bolt-on; Summary: Intel's latest move to make it easier for web and cloud giants to customise their infrastructure to their hyperscale workloads sees it introduce reconfigurable silicon.
http://www.zdnet.com/intel-chases-hyperscale-datacentres-with-fpga-bolt-on-7000030718/

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 18:39:48 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

3 Charts Show That China's Scientific Dominance Over The US Is A Done Deal
http://news.yahoo.com/3-charts-show-chinas-scientific-192255174.html

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 23:26:44 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
But the new employer would find out or guess what you were currently making and offer a bit more, but not a huge increase. After that raises are usually X%, so the more you make the larger the amount is.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#34 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

in the early 80s ... SJMN ran a series about employment in the valley was like that ... if you had stayed with the same employer for more than five yrs ... you would be significantly underpaid.

past posts about doing an IBM "open door" about being underpaid and included copy of the article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#74 My Vintage Dream PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#2 WHAT WAS THE PROJECT YOU WERE INVOLVED/PARTICIPATED AT IBM THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#12 Clone Processors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#28 How to Stuff a Wild Duck
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42 The IBM "Open Door" policy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#65 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'

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The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
Date: 19 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

as aside, Burton managed to make the Boyd "meeting" at Marine Corp Univ. last Oct. Another Boyd acolyte:
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/
one of the themes
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/p/domestic-roots-of-perpetual-war.html

Burton was responsible for significant improvements in the Bradley before Desert Storm (and cost him his career). F35 was designed as bomb truck .... bringing in air-to-ground ... stealth primarily forward and down ... with F22 flying cover (unfortunately most of F22 have been cut).

My son-in-law was foot patrol Felujah (2004-2005) and mounted (bradley) Baqubah (2007-2008) ... Baqubah described as much worse than Felujah:
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Baqubah-Killing-Our-ebook/dp/B007VBBS9I/

From law of unintended consequences, initial Iraqi invasion was told to bypass ammo dump search for (fabricated) WMDs ... when they got around go back, million metric tons had disappeared. Then large artillery shells start showing up in IEDs ... even taking out Abrams M1 (not just Bradleys). "Killing our way out" describes doing special route sweeps just before taking out M1s ... because they were loosing so many.

some old analysis of f35, stealth, radar, etc
http://ausairpower.net/APA-2009-01.html
Yon stay in Baqubah ... (use previous rather than next)
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/hunting-al-qaeda-part-i-of-iii.htm
can follow Yon's current activities on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/MichaelYonFanPage

random trivia F22 has 1.7 million lines of code, F35 is projected to have 24 million lines of code.

misc. more references:

The F-35 Fleet Was Grounded Again for the Bajillionth Time
http://gizmodo.com/the-f-35-fleet-was-grounded-again-for-the-bajillionth-1591484262
RAAF vs F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter
http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html
F-35's air-to-air ability limited
http://elpdefensenews.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/f-35s-air-to-air-ability-limited.html

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Married Couples and the Financial Mess

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Married Couples and the Financial Mess
Date: 20 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
no. 2 on times list for those responsible
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

his GLBA act repeals Glass-Steagall ... but also a number of other things ... including provision in commodities futures modernizaion act preventing CDSs from being regulated.

Gramm and the 'Enron Loophole'
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html
Enron was a major contributor to Mr. Gramm's political campaigns, and Mr. Gramm's wife, Wendy, served on the Enron board, which she joined after stepping down as chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

... snip ...

Phil Gramm's Enron Favor
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-01-15/news/phil-gramm-s-enron-favor/
A few days after she got the ball rolling on the exemption, Wendy Gramm resigned from the commission. Enron soon appointed her to its board of directors, where she served on the audit committee, which oversees the inner financial workings of the corporation. For this, the company paid her between $915,000 and $1.85 million in stocks and dividends, as much as $50,000 in annual salary, and $176,000 in attendance fees,

... snip ...

note she wasn't charged.

as an aside, previous CFTC chairwoman was proposing regulating CDS and then she was quickly replaced.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=aYJZOB_gZi0I

for some it wasn't a mess ... there was over $27T in (triple-A rated) CDOs done during the bubble:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

report that wallstreet triples in size during the "mess" (as percent of GDP) from the skim on CDOs along with the ($800+ trillion) CDS gambling bets.

TARP originally was supposed to buy toxic assets ... but with only $700B it wasn't enough ... at the end of 2008, just the four too big to fail were still carrying $5.2T in triple-A rated toxic CDOs off-book.
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

AIG was negotiating to pay-off CDS gambling bets at 50-60cents on the dollar. Sec. of treasury steps in and says that it is illegal for AIG to pay off CDS gambling bets at less than 100% and forces AIG to take gov. money to pay-off CDS gambling debts at 100% (and sign a document that AIG can't sue the betters for fixed bets). The biggest beneficiary was Goldman ... which the sec. of treasury had previously headed. Later it comes out that players were creating CDOs designed to fail, paying for triple-A ratings, selling them to their customers, and then taking out CDS bets that they would fail.

It was the FED that stepped in behind the scenes to cleanup the toxic assets. $10T by 2010
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1201/Federal-Reserve-s-astounding-report-We-loaned-banks-trillions
and $30T by 2011
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/bailout-total-29-616-trillion-dollars/

"All the Presidents' Bankers", pg114/loc 2738-39:
As The Nation put it, "You can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink, and you can offer the banks limitless Federal Reserve credit, but you cannot make them lend."

... snip ...

above is regarding news/press after the crash of '29 during the great depression. Now Bernanke has been characterized as a student/scholar of the great depression and the fed's operation. However, he is quoted as saying that he had expected that after making ($30Trillion in free) money available to the wallstreet too big to fail, they would turn around and lend to main street; and he was surprised when they didn't (and despite the fact that they were suppose to relend to main street, and weren't, the FED still didn't stop the flow).

Similarly (again the great depression), "The Bankers Who Broke The World" pg439:
The two new measures combined -- the infusion of additional capital into the banking system and the injection of reserves -- allowed the Fed finally to pump money into the system on the scale required ... instead of lending out the money used the capital so injected to build up their own reserves.

... snip ...

too big to fail operating just like they did in the 20s & 30s:

Bernanke Pushes for More Small Biz Loans
http://www.mainstreet.com/article/small-business/financing/bernanke-pushes-more-small-biz-loans
Round Two: Bernanke Faces More Grilling From Congress
http://www.cnbc.com/id/35542268/Round_Two_Bernanke_Faces_More_Grilling_From_Congress
Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/geithner-bernanke-have-little-in-arsenal-to-fight-new-crisis/2011/08/12/gIQAFuFvFJ_story.html

and ... Janet Yellen: Either Lying or Incompetent
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-20/janet-yellen-either-lying-or-incompetent
A marriage of equals: Janet Yellen's husband also a renowned economist
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25367972/marriage-equals-janet-yellens-husband-also-renowned-economist

folklore is that president was going to veto GLBA ... initially vote was pretty much along party lines ... then they went back and added various amendments so that it passes with veto proof 90-8. The original rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA was to prevent new banking charters ... eliminating competition specifically mentioning Walmart and Microsoft (it is now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall). Note that as part Fed Reserve bailout (behind the scenes), the Fed was giving banking charters to large wallstreet investment banks so they could get FED "free money" (in theory was violating GLBA).

A decade ago, walmart had work around to GLBA by acquiring a Utah ILC ... stated purpose was to become its own acquiring bank ... eliminating the interchange fees it was paying one of the too big to fail (walmart accounted for 25-30% of retail transaction in the US). The large wallstreet too big to fail launched a program to get the small community banks to write their congressmen opposing the acquisition (even tho it had little or no impact on them, the impact would be on wallstreet too big to fail)

for the fun of it (analogous to too big to fail enlisting community banks opposing walmart efforts) Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920
http://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
loc754-62:
In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."

posts mentioning bernanke
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#bernanke
posts mentioning kabuki theater
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

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Maneuver Warfare: German Experiences in WWII

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Maneuver Warfare: German Experiences in WWII
Date: 20 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
Maneuver Warfare: German Experiences in WWII
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com.es/p/in-mid-1970s-military-reformers-led-by.html
also: Air power and maneuver warfare by Creveld ...
https://archive.org/details/airpowermaneuver00mart

other recent Sprey
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#31 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

posts & Web URLs referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:49:43 -0400
Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> writes:
Years ago, the "paper CNE" (Certified Novell Engineer) was a common joke. One man I knew was very good with Novell networks, but he did not have the credential. He told me that, at one point, Novell offered to give him a CNE based on his demonstrated skill, but he declined saying that that would make him like everyone else, and the offerer agreed.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#34 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#35 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

old trivia/folklore ... one of the talks I had at adtech conference was on "DataHub" ... old reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a

DataHub had work-for-hire contract for a lot of the programming to company in Provo with some number of univ. students ... and one of the DataHub people was commuting between San Jose and Provo nearly every week to supervise the work. Spring of 1982 Datahub had a couple servers 60mbyte hard disks on LANs.

Then, the corporation decides to kill the DataHub project and let the Provo group retain rights to all the work they had done so far.

Not long later ... the provo company announces a network server.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell

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Named Memory

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Named Memory
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:07:27 -0400
Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
The idea is that capabilities are a toolkit to do various things in the memory protection and security space. It isn't necessary to set every pointer to be a capability, though you can do that if you choose. Where capabilities get used depends on what your threat model is and what you're trying to protect.

For a concrete example, consider a web browser. Every image download from the internet potentially contains an exploit. Libraries like libpng contain bugs. But you don't need to constrain every pointer in the library: all you need to do is constrain it so that if it explodes, it doesn't affect other things. So give it rights to an input buffer and an output buffer, revoke its ability to make syscalls, and let it do its stuff. If it is compromised the output buffer will be garbage - but that just means the image on your webpage is corrupted.

Another model is doing heavy crypto like SSL. You really care a lot about vulnerabilities in your crypto code, anywhere where keys are around. In there every pointer matters. The developers of these libraries really care too (mostly). You care less about your UI, because UI failures are (often) annoyances rather than showstoppers. So you can train up the crypto developers first and then the UI developers if you get around to it.

With incremental adoption you can pick the battles you care about, and pass on the ones you don't.


govs. were using virtual memory/machine for security isolation
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

one of the companies using it to provide online computer services was tymshare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

users were charged of computer resource useage

tymshare then started project to build their own capability operating system for ibm mainframe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS

part of gnosis objective was to allow 3rd party developed apps ... and account for user computer resource useage related to each app ... and enable remitting part of the related charges back to 3rd party app developers.

with M/D acquisition of Tymshare, GNOSIS was spun off to Key Logic ... disclaimer I was brought in to audit/evaluate GNOSIS as part of the spinoff.

GNOSIS/KeyKOS documents
http://cap-lore.com/CapTheory/upenn/

KeyKOS ... in the transition from GNOSIS to KeyKOS they striped out a lot of the resource accounting supporting 3rd party remittance (which was running up to 30% of pathlength) ... significantly increasing performance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KeyKOS

later capability derivatives from GNOSIS/KeyKOS

EROS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EROS_%28microkernel%29
CapROS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CapROS
Coyotos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyotos

recent posts mentioning gnosis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#84 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#39 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#44 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#53 The mainframe turns 50, or, why the IBM System/360 launch was the dawn of enterprise IT

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 07:51:35 -0400
despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) writes:
I think you meant IBM S360/30 or S360/40.

some possibility it was 3031/3032/3033/3081/3090 and 4331/4341/4361/4381 (late 70s thru 80s)

some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#10 It's all K&R's fault
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#11 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#21 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#22 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#27 Complete 360 and 370 systems found
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#40 IBM 360/370 hardware unearthed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#49 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#50 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#51 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#54 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#72 Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#81 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#95 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#36 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#83 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#85 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#103 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#105 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#20 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:26:12 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
3 Charts Show That China's Scientific Dominance Over The US Is A Done Deal
http://news.yahoo.com/3-charts-show-chinas-scientific-192255174.html


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#34 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#35 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#39 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

Asia's Cult of Intelligence; With its "cult of ignorance and anti-intellectualism" the U.S. risks falling behind rivals in Asia.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/06/asias-cult-of-intelligence/

older thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#44 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#46 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#56 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#68 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#73 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#87 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#90 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#1 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#2 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#7 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#12 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#40 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

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Oil Co. Wins $350,000 Cyberheist Settlement

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Oil Co. Wins $350,000 Cyberheist Settlement
Date: 21 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Oil Co. Wins $350,000 Cyberheist Settlement
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/06/oil-co-wins-350000-cyberheist-settlement/

Mid-90s, consumer dialup online banking were making presentations about moving to Internet, primarily associated with cost of customer support for serial-port dialup modems. At the time commercial/business/cash-managment online dialup banking said they would never move to the Internet because of long list of security issues (including ones mentioned in this case).

Late 90s, EU had FINREAD standard that addressed nearly all of those security issues ... however, because of an unfortunate deployment there was a general industry pullback from all such solutions. In the unfortunate deployment case there was a external token deployment that happened to have free give-away of obsolete device with serial-port interface ... which resulted in spreading consensus in the financial industry that such external tokens weren't practical. Turns out the actual problem wasn't with external tokens but with the serial port interface device, apparently in short five years all institutional knowledge of serial-port customer support problems had evaporated. The major motivation behind development of USB were the enormous problems with serial-port ... and possibly the program had been able to pickup large number of obsolete serial port devices at fire sale prices.

posts mentioning dialup banking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking
posts mentioning FINREAD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#finread

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SEC Charges Private Equity Firm With Pay-to-Play Violations Involving Political Campaign Contributions in Pennsylvania

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: SEC Charges Private Equity Firm With Pay-to-Play Violations Involving Political Campaign Contributions in Pennsylvania
Date: 21 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
SEC Charges Private Equity Firm With Pay-to-Play Violations Involving Political Campaign Contributions in Pennsylvania. First Case Under Pay-to-Play Rules for Investment Advisers
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370542119853#.U6To9GBdqce

posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

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The Only Things Standing Between Bank Of America And A $17 Billion Justice Department Fine

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The Only Things Standing Between Bank Of America And A $17 Billion Justice Department Fine
Date: 21 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
The Only Things Standing Between Bank Of America And A $17 Billion Justice Department Fine Are Brian Moynihan's Negotiating Skills, Latent Charisma
http://dealbreaker.com/2014/06/the-only-things-standing-between-bank-of-america-and-a-17-billion-justice-department-fine-are-brian-moynihans-negotiating-skills-latent-charisma/

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Demonstrating Moore's law

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Demonstrating Moore's law
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:43:34 -0400
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
Cringely recently published: "The Decline and Fall of IBM"
http://www.cringely.com/2014/06/04/decline-fall-ibm/


loc1630-34:
AFTERWORD What if Ginni Doesn't Listen? Here's what the IBM insider I quoted in my introduction says is coming today from Ginni Rometty's office: "Ginni is betting the farm on PureSystems. She is also betting the farm on Cloud. The problem is she is blaming flagging hardware sales on Cloud-ification."

... snip ...

older cloud-ification CHARTS: Look How Astoundingly Cheap Cloud Computing Has Become
http://www.businessinsider.com/astoundingly-cheap-cloud-computing-2014-5

and massive scale of operation at cloud megadatacenters (a typical megadatacenter will have more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today)

Intel chases hyperscale datacentres with FPGA bolt-on; Summary: Intel's latest move to make it easier for web and cloud giants to customise their infrastructure to their hyperscale workloads sees it introduce reconfigurable silicon.
http://www.zdnet.com/intel-chases-hyperscale-datacentres-with-fpga-bolt-on-7000030718/
Intel unveils new Xeon chip with integrated FPGA, touts 20x performance boost
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184828-intel-unveils-new-xeon-chip-with-integrated-fpga-touts-20x-performance-boost

past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#6 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#12 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#13 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#15 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#20 Demonstrating Moore's law

other recent cringely posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#8 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#110 weird power trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#27 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?

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Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
Date: 21 June 2014
Blog: IBMers
I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s and early 80s ... folklore is that when the executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. From IBMJARGON:
Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticised the way products were are developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

Jim Gray had left IBM San Jose Research for Tandem ... and I would periodically go by and visit him, above started out as distribution of trip report on one such visit to Tandem. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

as an aside, one of my hobbies for much of my career was providing & supporting the operating system used by the world-wide, online sales&marketing support HONE system. I also cut a deal with TYMSHARE to get regular distribution of all the VMSHARE files (online computer conferencing that TYMSHARE provided free to the IBM SHARE user group starting in AUG1976) ... archives here
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

one of the most difficult problems I faced putting the files up on the internal machines and network (including the HONE systems) was objections from from IBM lawyers that customer information would contaminate employees. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

trivia: virtual machines, internal network and bunch of other things were done at the science center. GML was invented at science center in 1969 (after a decade it morphs into SGML and after another decade it morphs into HTML). The internal network was larger than arpanet/Internet from just about the beginning until sometime late 85 or early 86. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

other recent posts in IBMers:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#1 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#15 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#54 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#8 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#28 Does IBM CEO Rometty Understand Cloud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#53 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#56 China Wants Banks To Remove High-End IBM Servers Amid Spy Dispute
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#57 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#62 Interesting and somewhat disturbing article about IBM in BusinessWeek. What is your opinion?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#94 Why Financialization Has Run Amok
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#24 IBM Opens New SoftLayer Data Center In Hong Kong

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Mainframe on NCIS

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Mainframe on NCIS
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 22 Jun 2014 07:53:31 -0700
barry@MXG.COM (Barry Merrill) writes:
Listening to a past NCIS, we think it may have been Season 9 Episode 13:

"How did you get that voice message he had deleted from his Cell Phone?"

"I used the service provider's MAINFRAME".


except possibly non-mainframe backend server.

2nd part of the 90s, with the rise of the internet ... the financial industry was increasingly afraid that the telco industry would take-over the payment industry (payment fees represented 40-60% bottom line for US institutions). The issue was that the prospect of micropayments were projected to increase the transaction volume where it would totally swamp the industry mainframe backends ... and the only operations with scale that could possibly handle such volumes were the telco industry non-mainframe backends (developed for handling cellphone callrecord volumes). Fortunately for the industry, the internet micropayments never took off ... and they started putting legislative barriers in place.

Note that the rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of GLBA (financial modernization act) was to keep new competition out of banking (in part by restricting new banking charters; congressional rhetoric specifically named a number of other institutions including walmart and microsoft). GLBA is now better known for also repealing Glass-Steagall ... which played a role in the economic mess of the last decade.

posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 16:27:34 -0400
Is Coding the New Literacy?
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/06/computer-science-programming-code-diversity-sexism-education

The Pipeline Problem

Among AP courses taken last year, computer science is near the bottom.

english 862,000 calculus 387,000 spanish 154,000 chemistry 140,000 european history 110,000 computer science 31,000

only 20 states count computer science toward graduation requirements in math or science


recent posts in this thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#25 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#34 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#35 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#39 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#42 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

Note that there is some amount of arguments over the F35 ... which was to be a bomb truck with enough stealth to hide it from enemy ground radar while it delivered the munitions to take the radar installations out. It was dependent on the "real" fighter ... F22 to provide cover.
http://ausairpower.net/APA-2009-01.html
and
http://www.ausairpower.net/jsf.html

Now the F22 required 1.7M lines of code ... the F35 is projected to require 24M lines of code before its done. some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#86 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#93 Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#96 Lockheed Martin F-35 Jet's Software Delayed, GAO Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#90 A Drone Could Be the Ultimate Dogfighter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

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Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 22:14:26 -0400
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
I remember going through two hurricanes as a child in Washington DC's Maryland suburbs many many moons ago.

we were visiting and staying at hotel in bethesda when hurricane hit maryland ... there were lots of downed tree branches and power outages ... but the hotel came through with no problem ... however afterwards there were some local parents rented their high school girls rooms ... because their power was out (there were other kids, both boys and girls, going up and down the access stairs all night making lots of noise ... somehow they had jammed the access door).

lots of the hurricanes have gone by offshore so the winds are going south along the coast ... this one came up somewhat inland so the huricane winds along the shore were going north.

couple days later, i had financial industry standards meeting at office just off 50 in annapolis ... and the roads and power there were just fine ... but didn't get downtown. I've since seen a lot of pictures of downtown under 6ft of water at the time, the winds blowing north up the Chesapeake bay resulted in storm surge ... water pushed higher & higher as the bay narrowed.

note downtown dock area normally can be under one to 6inches of water anytime there is heavy rain and high tide.

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 08:50:44 -0400
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
Oh, it does, it does. Some mundane tasks are much speeded up and multiple tasks at the same time are also accelerated. For a lot of really intensive computations, for example, video codecs the libraries are written for multitasking.

Even newsreaders are multithreaded today. But a years ago computers exceeded the demands of the users.


there are a couple different problems ... one is the mismatch between processor speeds and memory access latency ... the memory access latency measured in count of processor cycles is compareable to the 60s disk access latency measured in count of 60s processor cycles. this has led to all sort of hardware measures comparable to 60s multiprogramming ... out-of-order execution, branch prediction, speculative execution, hyperthreading ... all oriented towards keeping processor busy while waiting for cache miss/memory access.

another is increasing power loss and heat dissipation problems trying to go to higher frequency, faster processor cycle.

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EBFAS

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: EBFAS
Date: 23 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
just recently from somebody on Facebook (in briefings at IBM, Boyd would spend some amount of time on these terms)

TOTD: EBFAS. I want to bring forth a new/old concept of organizational culture that will help your company or unit win--in business or war. h/t Chet Richards whom has talked much about the importance of an organization's culture and how that leads to great things. EBFAS stands for Einheit, Behendigkeit, Fingerspitzengefuhl, Auftragstaktik, and Schwerpunkt. It is in German, because EBFAS is a concept based on German ideas that have been highly influential to military units across the world.

Einheit is mutual trust, oneness, unity, cohesion, similar implicit orientation. A definition and how to say it is listed here.

Behendigkeit is mental agility, the ability to see and break out of deep patterns or ruts in thinking. Boyd called this process 'building snowmobiles' or creativity under fire. Or improvisation under fire.

Fingerspitzengefuhl is a 'finger tip feel' for the battle field or market or organization. It is a sense of health of the organization, intuitive competence, know yourself/know your enemy.

Auftragstaktik is mission command or mission orders. It is a contract between leaders and subordinates. The German's now call it fuhren mit auftrag or leading by mission. The why is emphasized and not the how. It is also referred to as commander's intent. It is decentralized command concept.

Schwerpunkt is focus and direction, goal, strategic objective, destination, vision. It is the 'hard point' or 'difficult point'. In German, it is the center of gravity. It is an unmoving target that everyone is working towards.

So in the future, when I reference EBFAS, hopefully folks will remember the key pieces of this system. The way to use it is to ask yourself, does my company have a culture built on EBFAS? You can also ask, are you successful in your company or organization or unit, because of the culture or system you have, or in spite of it? If you are constantly fighting your culture and system in place in order to succeed, then your higher ups need to take a hard look at what needs to change. You can start with EBFAS and see exactly what is lacking, and then apply Kaizen in order to improve.

For further study on EBFAS and Mission Command, talk with guys like Donald Vandergriff, Jorg Muth or check out these sites and authors.

Chuck Spinney's
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/
Chet Richard's
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/
William Lind's
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/william-s-lind/
Martin Van Crevald
http://www.martinvancreveld.com/
Eitan Shamir
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=20200


...

and another one of Boyd's acolytes
http://digg.com/video/the-designer-of-the-f-15-explains-just-how-inanely-stupid-the-f-35-is

I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM. the first time I tried to sponsor his briefings through the employee education organization ... at first they agreed ... but as I provided more information on Boyd and the briefings, they changed their mind ... saying IBM spends a large amount of money on management & executive education for handling employees ... and exposing general employees to Boyd's briefings would not be in the best interest of the company. They asked that I restrict audience at the briefings to senior members of competitive analysis departments. Note Boyd (and his acolytes) were responsible for the F16, F18, A10 and significant redesign of the F15. This has some resurgence recently in discussions about the F35. One of his acolytes also got sucked into correcting the Bradley, were he was eventually forced to resign and terminated his career. HBO did a movie from the book he wrote about the events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars

Circa 1990, the commandant of the Marine Corps leverages Boyd for makeover of the corp, by the time of his passing, the air force had pretty much disowned him and it was the marines at arlington and his effects went to Quantico. If you ever visit this museum, a picture of the former commandant is here:
http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/hall_of_honor/2008/index.shtml

a couple yrs ago at a boyd-themed conference at Marine Corps univ., the former commandant wanders in and talks for a couple hrs (even tho he wasn't on the agenda, nobody complains). I'm sitting alone in the very back of the room next to the wall and after he finishes he makes straight for me, as he is bearing down I tic off the marines that may have set me up .... including
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy

who I ran into 20-some yrs ago and would make boyd "quotes" during his presentations ... he eventually started referring to me as that boyd guy.

the marine makeover is still contentious ... an example of toleration of different view points is here:
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/attritionist-letters-archives

I have a pile of ("commemorative") hard copies of Boyd briefings at IBM back to 1983 that I periodically present to some people, including to the anonymous author.

I was recently reading
https://archive.org/details/airpowermaneuver00mart
and just as I finished, Spinney posts a reference to this over in Google+
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com.es/p/in-mid-1970s-military-reformers-led-by.html

more EBFAS, from person responsible for the original post in facebook:

I wanted to go back to some of the posts that Chet wrote that sparked my interest in EBFAS. You can find EBFAS in his book, but you also see it pop up in blog posts. That is the good stuff, because he applies it today's business related issues. This post is in regards to GM and their ignition switch debacle. Plausible deniability
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/2014/04/04/plausible-deniability/

... disclaimer ... I commented on chet's original article

another of his recent EBFAS:

A Great Question To Ask About Your Company. Sometimes a great question, leads to great answers. Today's great question is "Do people in your company succeed because of it's systems and culture, or do they succeed in spite of those systems and culture?" If you are fighting the systems and culture of your company, then some changes need to take place.

.... and my contribution:

Boyd's To Be or To Do ... has people rising to the top because they are more interested in their careers than anything else. Other studies imply that ethics is one of the first things to go ... and in fact several times in my career people would remind me that "business ethics" is an oxymoron

"There are two career paths in front of you, and you have to choose which path you will follow. One path leads to promotions, titles, and positions of distinction.... The other path leads to doing things that are truly significant for the Air Force, but the rewards will quite often be a kick in the stomach because you may have to cross swords with the party line on occasion. You can't go down both paths, you have to choose. Do you want to be a man of distinction or do you want to do things that really influence the shape of the Air Force? To be or to do, that is the question." Colonel John R. Boyd, USAF 1927-1997

From the dedication of Boyd Hall, United States Air Force Weapons School, Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada. 17 September 1999

posts & web URLs referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

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BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion
Date: 23 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion
http://online.wsj.com/articles/bnp-near-settlement-with-u-s-for-up-to-9-billion-1403483369

US to Fine BNP $8+ Billion, Suspend Access to Dollar Clearing
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/06/us-fine-bnp-8-billion-suspend-dollar-clearing.html

from above:
But notice how these are all foreign banks? Why don't we contrast those fines with the slap on the wrist that Wachovia received in 2011? As we wrote then in Wachovia Paid Trivial Fine for Nearly $400 Billion of Drug Related Money Laundering:

... snip ...

How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangs. As the violence spread, billions of dollars of cartel cash began to seep into the global financial system. But a special investigation by the Observer reveals how the increasingly frantic warnings of one London whistleblower were ignored
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs

... the money laundering is resource enabler for enormous amount of violence that continues to this day.

posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
posts mentioning whistleblower
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:38:31 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

some innovation ...

Meet Knight's Landing: Intel's most powerful chip ever is overflowing with cutting-edge technologies
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2366700/intels-most-powerful-chip-ever-packs-emerging-technologies.html

HP Labs' "Machine" dissolves the difference between disk and memory Memristor technology promises a world where RAM never forgets -- and is everywhere.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hp-labs-machine-dissolves-the-difference-between-disk-and-memory/

may be "faster" ... but not necessary lower latency

Micron's revolutionary Hybrid Memory Cube tech is 15 times faster than today's RAM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2366680/computer-memory-overhaul-due-with-microns-hmc-in-early-2015.html

... other

Supercomputer slowdown: World's fastest system sees no new challengers HPC growth stalls with only one new supercomputer cracking top ten list.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/supercomputer-slowdown-worlds-fastest-system-sees-no-new-challengers/

Experimental 36-core chip unveiled
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140623121002.htm

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Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:13:32 -0400
Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> writes:
A plant in Fargo (ND, USA) trucks one blade at a time, they are too long for any flatbed truck. Instead, the blade IS the support structure for itself as well as the rear wheels. A person in the rear pilot vehicle (almost always a pickup) controls the steering for the real wheels. A front pilot vehicle is also required in this state. I almost always see one or more blades being transported southbound every time I drive to Fargo on Interstate-29. Quite an awesome sight to see truckin' down the road.

after the shuttle booster rocket explosion there were all sorts of investigations. a parady came out (I think in analog scifi mag) about Columbus lobbying spanish court to underwrite fleet to sail across atlantic looking for china. the court agreed but some member of the court convinces the queen that the ships should be built in the mountains ... and then cut in three pieces so they can be transported to the harbored ... and then glued back together. the explanation was that there were several bidders for the booster rockets ... most were that the booster rockets would be built in one piece and delivered to the cape. however, there was one bidder from a state with an influential congressional member that got the winning bid. this state was in the rocky mountains ... requiring the booster rockets to be built in three pieces in order to transport to the cape ... where they would be combined together.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#54 Xah Lee's Unixism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#60 Xah Lee's Unixism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004k.html#61 Xah Lee's Unixism
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#79 NASA proves once again that, for it, the impossible is not even difficult

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Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:27:36 -0400
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
I am still kind of amazed that a 12' tire is reasonable and it makes me wonder about mirrors for telescopes..

long ago and far away, I got sucked into the Berkeley "10m" that was built from multiple 1m hexagon sections that were then assembled and computer control to adjust their configuration. they strived very hard to avoid taking NSF money because they were afradi that they would loose control of telescope schedule ... finally got a foundation to fund the effort (and renamed for the foundation).

part of it was also transition from film to CCDs (at the time piloting 200x200, 40k CCD at lick observatory). I was doing HSDT internally inside IBM ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

and talking to NSF about interconnecting the NSF supercomputer centers some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

and they were talking about doing remote operation from mainland and needed "high speed" connection to the observatory ... also would enable remote operation from base of mountain ... for those that had issues with acclimatizing to high altitude. their website
http://www.keckobservatory.org/

lick where some of the early work went on
http://www.ucolick.org/
which has this pointer to the 10m
http://www.ucolick.org/keckssc/

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#9 Jack Kilby dead
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#20 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#50 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#30 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#80 A Super-Efficient Light Bulb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#82 ATMs by the Numbers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#85 ATMs by the Numbers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#55 TV Big Bang 10/12/09
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#24 Program Work Method Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#58 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#10 Slackware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#86 OT: Physics question and Star Trek
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#55 360/20, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#8 We're About to Lose Net Neutrality -- And the Internet as We Know It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#76 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#50 Revamped PDP-11 in Honolulu or maybe Santa Fe

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[CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation
Newsgroups: comp.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:37:20 -0400
there are a couple of such discussions in linkedin mainframe oriented groups (both ibm employees and customers).

1qtr2014 IBM financials has the equivalent of 14 max-configured ec12 (latest ibm mainframe) being sold (56 on annualized basis) @33M which is rated at 75BIPS ... or about $440K/BIPS ... is built out of 32nm technology, six processors in 597mm chip.

a typical cloud megadatacenter has more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today ... a typical component is e5-2600v1 blade which they build for possibly $1/BIPS. currently selling are e5-2600v2 and coming on line this year are e5-2600v3 blades using 14nm technology ... intel has spent $5B on 14nm technology fab and will feature move from 300mm wafers to 450mm wafers

if the ec12 chip was simply remapped from 32nm to 14nm 450mm wafer ... a total full years sale of ec12 then is single wafer.

ibm mainframe CKD DASD haven't been manufactured for decades ... being simulated on industry standard fixed-block disk ... because their mainstream mainframe operating system doesn't have support for fixed-block disks.

ibm mainframe i/o "channels" are called "FICON", a heavyweight protocol layer that runs on industry standard fibre-channel (and drastically reduces native throughput). A mainframe max I/O benchmark published for z196 (precursor to ec12) used 104 FICON to get 2M IOPS ... about the same time a single fibre-channel was announced for e5-2600 claiming over 1M IOPS (two such "native" fibre-channel having higher throughput than 104 FICON).

again for z196 (i don't think they have published for ec12 yet), peak i/o SSCH operations is 2.2M/sec with all i/o system assist processors running at 100% busy ... however, they recommend not running the mainframe SAPs more than 70% busy or 1.5M SSCH/sec.

the published numbers for ec12 claim only 30% increase in I/O over z196 (possibly because of combination of FICON and SAP limitations). max configured z196 was 80 processors for 50BIPS (625MIPS/processor) while ec12 is 101 processors for 75BIPS (743MIPS/processor)

posts mentioning FICON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

recent posts mentioning ec12 &/or z196
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#49 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#50 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#51 Beyond the EC12
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#53 IBM hopes new chip can turn the tables on Intel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#65 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#67 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#72 Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#80 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#86 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#92 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#2 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#12 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#20 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#49 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#105 Fifty Years of nitpicking definitions, was BASIC,theProgrammingLanguageT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#2 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#4 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#5 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#7 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:50:31 -0400
Intel Supercomputer Processors Roadmap; Intel reveals upcoming Xeon Phi update -- 3-teraflops processors boosted by silicon photonics, inventive code.
http://www.informationweek.com/infrastructure/pc-and-servers/intel-supercomputer-processors-roadmap/d/d-id/1278798
Intel Massive Parallel Upgrades Due; 3-teraflops processors boosted by silicon photonics, inventive code
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322847&_mc=MP_IW_EDT_STUB
Intel, ARM Take Competition Into HPC Arena
http://www.eweek.com/servers/intel-arm-take-competition-into-hpc-arena.html

posts in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:59:54 -0400
also google+
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/SNXff5WfmEg
and in (linkedin, closed) "IBM Wild Ducks" (originally from facebook):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS

Linux dominates supercomputers as never before; Summary: The latest list of the fastest supercomputers in the world is out -- and not only does Linux rule, it's almost eliminated all of its competition.
http://www.zdnet.com/linux-dominates-supercomputers-as-never-before-7000030890/

a major issue was that builders of these supercomputers ... required lots of innovation ... not exactly COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) ... to go along with the rapid hadware & system innovation ... they needed full software source in order achieve corresponding rapid software evolution. Little of this would have ever happened if things had been restricted to proprietary systems (especially if full source had restrictions).

once examples existed ... some of the proprietary systems then attempt to follow in the footsteps already blazed.

part of the issue was the (proprietary) unix wars of the late 80s & early 90s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

Although not released until 1992 due to legal complications, development of 386BSD, from which NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD descended, predated that of Linux. Linus Torvalds has said that if 386BSD had been available at the time, he probably would not have created Linux.[30]

... snip ...

unix wars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars
which also prompted OSF for an alternative (proprietary) unix-like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

as aside, I tried to have an effort with large number of processors in racks in the mid-80s and then again in the early 90s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
but not restricted to scientific and numeric intensive (jan1992)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

however, as I've mentioned a number of times, project was transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors, .... and quickly announced as supercomputer

ibm press from 17feb1992, "scientific and technical only"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
more ibm press 11may1992, "company caught by surprise by national lab interest in cluster computing"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

much earlier, I had done 4341 benchmarks for LLNL looking at 70 4341 compute farm ... at a time when full vm370 source still shipped to customers ... and it was common for maintenance and system builds be done all from source
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

other recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#71 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#35 OODA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#72 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#96 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#52 [CM] Ten recollections about the early WWW and Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#11 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#39 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#81 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:30:48 -0400
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
I did desktop publishing many years ago too.

As I understood it somewhere in the bowels of the building there was a vector CRT, an image was formed on the CRT, a microfilm image was taken, developed, projected and printed producing an end result that looked very Xerox like. IOW an awful lot of magic. I always imagined that the CRT might have had an unusually long persistence. I submitted a computer run to the computer room and paper came back. We had an in-house computer program with it's own special "language" to make all this work.

It seems to me "special" might mean something different to you than it means to me. Can you clarify?


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

some of the ctss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System

people went to the 5th flr and did multics and others went to the science center (formed 1Feb1964) on the 4th flr, and did virutual machines (first cp40/cms which morphed into cp67/cms when 360/67 became available), internal network and some number of other things. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

A clone of CTSS runoff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TYPSET_and_RUNOFF

was done for cms called "script". Then in 1969, GML was invented at the science center ... and GML tag processing added to "script". A decade later GML morphs into internal standard SGML ... and after another decade it morphs into HTML at CERN. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml
other history
http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/sgmlhist.htm
and
http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm

I've mentioned before that one of the early major corporate publications moved to cms script was the internal mainframe architecture "redbook" (for distribution in red 3-ring binder). It would use cms command line option to generate the full "redbook" or the "principles of operation" subset (POO subset sections were intermixed with lots of stuff about engineering considerations, design alternatives, and bunch of other stuff).
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/360/princOps/
and
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/370/princOps/

at science center, would generate hardcopy on 2741 terminal or on 1403 printer. In 1977 I transferred to San Jose Research ... and they had microfiche printer on the plant site ... turn-around was on the order of 24hrs.

some old pictures, includes pictures of my home desk from 77-79 had 300baud cdi miniterm and a compact microfiche viewer (i typically had 100 or so microfiche at home)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts

In the late 70s, the 3800 laser printer started to appear in san jose area datacenters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3800

then circa 1980, we started getting 6670s out in the departmental areas, press item (from search engine)
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=19800408&id=cZ5WAAAAIBAJ&sjid=AecDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6671,2079155

... basically an IBM copier3 with computer interface. Some people at SJR then did the changes to support all-points-addressable ... bascially being able to do images. old email reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#email820304

Past posts mentionin sherpa (6670 apa)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#48 1403 printers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#44 Materiel and graft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#49 Materiel and graft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#1 Materiel and graft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#27 The Complete April Fools' Day RFCs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#72 Parse/Template Function
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#51 It has been a long time since Ihave seen a printer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#68 Blinkenlights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#69 Blinkenlights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#74 Apple iPad -- this merges with folklore
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#43 Boyd's Briefings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#59 IBM 029 service manual
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#49 GML
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#1 Is email dead? What do you think?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#82 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#10 History of APL -- Software Preservation Group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#19 program coding pads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#21 program coding pads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#77 Just for a laugh... How to spot an old IBMer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#95 Burroughs B5000, B5500, B6500 videos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#57 Displaywriter, Unix manuals added to Bitsavers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#95 IBM PCjr STRIPPED BARE: We tear down the machine Big Blue would rather you forgot
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#34 Special characters for Passwords

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Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
Date: 25 June 2014
Blog: IBMers
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#47 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

I use to sponsor Boyd's briefings at IBM. the first time I tried to sponsor his briefings through the employee education organization ... at first they agreed ... but as I provided more information on Boyd and the briefings, they changed their mind ... saying IBM spends a large amount of money on management & executive education for handling employees ... and exposing general employees to Boyd's briefings would not be in the best interest of the company. They asked that I restrict audience at the briefings to senior members of competitive analysis departments. Note Boyd (and his acolytes) were responsible for the F16, F18, A10 and significant redesign of the F15. This has some resurgence recently in discussions about the F35. Boyd was also blamed for being the leader of the military (acquisition) reform movement (really hated by entrenched MICC). One of his acolytes also got sucked into correcting the Bradley, were he was eventually forced to resign and terminated his career. HBO did a movie from the book he wrote about the events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars

just recently from somebody on Facebook (in briefings at IBM, Boyd would spend some amount of time on these terms)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS

TOTD: EBFAS. I want to bring forth a new/old concept of organizational culture that will help your company or unit win--in business or war. h/t Chet Richards whom has talked much about the importance of an organization's culture and how that leads to great things. EBFAS stands for Einheit, Behendigkeit, Fingerspitzengefuhl, Auftragstaktik, and Schwerpunkt. It is in German, because EBFAS is a concept based on German ideas that have been highly influential to military units across the world.

Einheit is mutual trust, oneness, unity, cohesion, similar implicit orientation. A definition and how to say it is listed here.

Behendigkeit is mental agility, the ability to see and break out of deep patterns or ruts in thinking. Boyd called this process 'building snowmobiles' or creativity under fire. Or improvisation under fire.

Fingerspitzengefuhl is a 'finger tip feel' for the battle field or market or organization. It is a sense of health of the organization, intuitive competence, know yourself/know your enemy.

Auftragstaktik is mission command or mission orders. It is a contract between leaders and subordinates. The German's now call it fuhren mit auftrag or leading by mission. The why is emphasized and not the how. It is also referred to as commander's intent. It is decentralized command concept.

Schwerpunkt is focus and direction, goal, strategic objective, destination, vision. It is the 'hard point' or 'difficult point'. In German, it is the center of gravity. It is an unmoving target that everyone is working towards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerpunkt#Schwerpunkt

So in the future, when I reference EBFAS, hopefully folks will remember the key pieces of this system. The way to use it is to ask yourself, does my company have a culture built on EBFAS? You can also ask, are you successful in your company or organization or unit, because of the culture or system you have, or in spite of it? If you are constantly fighting your culture and system in place in order to succeed, then your higher ups need to take a hard look at what needs to change. You can start with EBFAS and see exactly what is lacking, and then apply Kaizen in order to improve.

For further study on EBFAS and Mission Command, talk with guys like Donald Vandergriff Jorg Muth or check out these sites and authors.

Chuck Spinney's
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com/
Chet Richard's
http://slightlyeastofnew.com/
William Lind's
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/william-s-lind/
Martin Van Crevald
http://www.martinvancreveld.com/
Eitan Shamir
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=20200

....and anything else that discusses building this kind of culture.

and another one of Boyd's acolytes/associates
http://digg.com/video/the-designer-of-the-f-15-explains-just-how-inanely-stupid-the-f-35-is

Circa 1990, the marine commandant leverages Boyd for makeover of the corp, by the time of his passing, the air force had pretty much disowned him and it was the marines at arlington and his effects went to Quantico. If you ever visit this museum, a picture of the former commandant is here:
http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/hall_of_honor/2008/index.shtml

a couple yrs ago at a boyd-themed conference at Marine Corps univ., the former commandant wanders in and talks for a couple hrs (even tho he wasn't on the agenda, nobody complains). I'm sitting alone in the very back of the room next to the wall and after he finishes he makes straight for me, as he is bearing down I tic off the marines that may have set me up .... including
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy

who I ran into 20-some yrs ago and would make boyd "quotes" during his presentations ... he eventually started referring to me as that boyd guy.

the marine makeover is still contentious ... an example of toleration of different view points is here:
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/attritionist-letters-archives

I have a pile of ("commemorative") hard copies of Boyd briefings at IBM back to 1983 that I periodically present to some people, including to the anonymous author.

I was recently reading
https://archive.org/details/airpowermaneuver00mart
and just as I finished, Spinney posts a reference to this over in Google
http://chuckspinney.blogspot.com.es/p/in-mid-1970s-military-reformers-led-by.html

this is long ago reference that was widely distributed around IBM to try and combat extreme bureaucracy
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/GO/wildDuck.html

IBM at the Crossroads: IBM Responds; An IBM executive responds
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322767

one of the issues is huge investment needed for each new chip generation. IBM's current EC12 mainframe processor chips are 32nm technology. Intel just invested $5B for new fab for 14nm technology as well as transition from 300mm to 450mm wafers. Based on 1qtr2014 financials, IBM sold the equivalent of 14 max. configured ec12 mainframes ... or 56 on an annualized basis. EC12 processor chips remaped to 14nm technology, a single (450mm) wafer would be sufficient for full years EC12 sales

part 3: IBM at the Crossroads: How IBM Got to this Point
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322768
pg2: What went wrong
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322768&page_number=2

recent posts mentioning chip wafers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#8 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#9 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#10 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#11 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#57 [CM] Mainframe tech is here to stay: just add innovation

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:39:13 -0400
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
Seymour's special is not my special. My "ordinary" is a run of the mill terminal, a desktop computer, a workstation or the peripherals usually clustered around a mainframe. A Tektronix 4010, an APL terminal, a linotype machine are all, IMO, "special"

Now I wonder if Wang might have offered something for desktop publishing, they date to the 70's. I view Wang as kind of orthogonal to computers, though.


quicky web search: A Brief History of Word Processing (through 1986)
http://web.stanford.edu/~bkunde/fb-press/articles/wdprhist.html

doesn't mention cp67/cms, script, runoff, etc. in late 70s, a former ibm vm370 SE in the LA office did a cms script clone for the trs80 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
old post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#74 Specifying all biz rules in relational data

early 80s, ROMP chip (joint 801/risc research & OPD) was developed for followon to displaywriter .... which was then canceled (in part because PCs were starting to take over the market).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Displaywriter_System

They looked around and decided to retarget to the unix workstation market ... and got the company that had done the AT&T port to IBM/PC for PC/IX to do one for ROMP ... which becomes the PC/RT and AIX. posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, iliad, rios, power, power/pc, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

The follow-on to ROMP and PC/RT is RIOS and RS/6000. RS/6000 was also pitched to a number of other vendors for relogo under their brand ... including WANG and BULL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Laboratories

In June 1991 Wang started reselling IBM computers, in exchange for IBM investing into Wang stock. Wang hardware strategy to re-sell IBM RS/6000s also included further pursuit of UNIX software.

... snip ...

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#60 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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European bank 'hit by sophisticated cyber-thefts

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: European bank 'hit by sophisticated cyber-thefts
Date: 25 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
European bank 'hit by sophisticated cyber-thefts'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28004193#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa

Cyber thieves tap over EUR500,000 from European bank
http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240223299/Cyber-thieves-tap-over-500000-from-European-bank
Cybercrooks steal EUR500,000 from European bank
http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=26200
Luuuk Trojan snatches EUR500,000 from European bank in one week; Summary: In only seven days, over half a million euros were stolen from a European bank's customers courtesy of a new banking Trojan campaign.
http://www.zdnet.com/luuuk-trojan-snatches-500000-from-european-bank-in-one-week-7000030914/

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Dark Pool Greed Drove Barclays to Lie to Clients, N.Y. Says

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Dark Pool Greed Drove Barclays to Lie to Clients, N.Y. Says
Date: 25 June 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Dark Pool Greed Drove Barclays to Lie to Clients, N.Y. Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-25/barclays-dark-pools-said-to-face-suit-from-n-y-attorney-general.html

How Barclays Got Caught Red-Handed With "Pernicious HFT Fraud"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/how-barclays-got-caught-red-handed-pernicious-hft-fraud
Schneiderman-Barclays-complaint
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/Schneiderman-Barclays-complaint.pdf
NY AG Sues Barclays For HFT Fraud - Live Feed
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-25/ny-ag-sues-barclays-fraud-over-hft
New York AG Sends Subpoenas To HFT Firms Including Tower, Jump and Chopper
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-16/new-york-ag-sends-subpoenas-hft-firms-including-tower-jump-and-chopper
High Frequency Trading: Why Now And What Happens Next
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/high-frequency-trading-why-now-and-what-happens-next?page=1

recent posts mentioning HFT:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#54 Pensions, was Re: Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#82 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#89 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#28 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#29 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#43 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#56 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#65 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#93 New York seeks curbs on high-frequency trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#100 New York seeks curbs on high-frequency trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#18 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#60 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#71 FBI Investigates High-Speed Trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#72 Three Expensive Milliseconds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#3 Three Expensive Milliseconds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#20 HFT, computer trading
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#25 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#70 Obama Administration Launches Plan To Make An "Internet ID" A Reality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#1 HFT is harmful, say US market participants
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#54 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#64 HFT is harmful, say US market participants
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#107 The SEC's Mary Jo White Punts on High Frequency Trading and Abandons Securities Act of 1934
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#109 SEC Caught Dark Pool and High Speed Traders Doing Bad Stuff

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Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
Date: 26 June 2014
Blog: IBMers
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#47 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

ACS-360 was killed because executives thought that it might advance computer state-of-the-art too fast and IBM would loose control of the market (article also mentions ACS-360 features showing up more than 20yrs later in ES/9000)
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

Amdahl then leaves and starts his own computer company. In the first part of the 70s, he has seminar at MIT (large full auditorium, lots of people from the science center attend). During the seminar, a student asks him what justification did he use to get funding from the money people. He said it was that even if IBM was to completely walk away from 360/370, customers had already spent large billions on software development that would keep him in business through the end of the century. This was in the Future System period which was going to kill off 370, and the wording sort of implies he knew about it ... but he says he had no knowledge of Future System. Some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
also
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html

The 23Jun69 unbundling announcement included starting to pay for software ... except the company managed to make the case that kernel/system software should still be free. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

However, the lack of 370 products during the FS period is credited with giving the clone processors a market foothold (when FS failed, there was then made rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline). The rise of the clone processors then was major factor in starting to charge of kernel/system software followed by OCO (object code only, no longer shipping software source). Then in the late 80s, there was big drop in the mainframe market contributing to the company going into the red in the early 90s. Note in the mid-80s, top executives were predicting that company revenue was going to shortly double (mostly based on mainframe revenue) and there was massive internal building program to double mainframe hardware manufacturing capacity.

Contributing factor was talk by a senior disk engineer in the late 80s at an internal, world-wide, annual communication group conference. He started out by saying that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The communication group had stranglehold on datacenter with strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls and they were fighting off client/server and distributed computing trying to preserve SNA and their dumb terminal paradigm. The disk division was seeing the effects of data fleeing the datacenter to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. They had come up with a number of solutions to address the problem that were constantly vetoed by the communication group.

The disappearing clone (mainframe) processor market in the 90s was just another symptom of the massive downturn in the mainframe market (as opposed to the top executive predictions that it would double). Trivia: during executive interview as part of leaving in the early 90s, I was told that they could have forgiven me for being wrong, but they were never going to forgive me for being right.

This is long-winded related, recent post on the importance of freely available source code for agility, adaptability and innovation in evolving environment (also posted in IBM "Wild Ducks" group)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59

which disappeared with OCO ... earlier, I had done 4341 benchmarks for LLNL looking at 70 4341 compute farm ... at a time when full vm370 source still shipped to customers ... and it was common for maintenance and system builds be done all from source
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:57:45 -0400
Morten Reistad <first@last.name> writes:
I am completely hooked to having a LARGE (10kx10k) virtual screen with sections. I have a browser in one, a few root windows as 24x80 (i keep working as root to that, so I feel the pain), two screensfuls of a 55x96 emacs beside a similar xterm, as whatever I am logged in as, and one or more of these may be to a remote system. I also have some 24x80 screens to see how programs perform in that layout.

But it is the large screen that does it for me. I will never, ever go back.


... similar, 32in 2560x1600 with 5 "workspaces" ... multiple emacs are 111x134 (can get two side-by-side in single workspace). I have a couple different browsers windows (with different "personalities" settings) ... half screen ... so I can also do browser+emacs side-by-side.

frequently emacs is also split in half 55x134

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Sale receipt--obligatory?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Sale receipt--obligatory?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:07:05 -0400
Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> writes:
When I worked at a big box retailer in the mid-2000's, management drilled into us the necessity of retaining the customer's signed credit card receipt. If it was lost or given to the customer in error, they said the customer could have the transaction declined by the credit card company.

Now VISA and Mastercard credit cards here in Canada have chips, so no signature is required or provided. I would think a paper record would not have to be retained by the merchant if the transaction is disputed by the customer through the credit card company in that case. The electronic record should be enough.


note there was large deployment in the US about the turn of the century ... but it was during the YES CARD period ... and in the wake of that ... all evidence of it appeared to disappear; also speculation that it would be some time before it is tried again in the US ... allowing time for newer generations to be much better veted.

Mentions that it is trivial to clone such a chip ... near the bottom of this CARTES2002 trip report:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html

disclaimer: the guys gave me a copy of the referenced cartes2002 presentation ... but it says "proprietary" all over it.

then there was presentation at ATM Integrity Task Force meeting by a federal LEO ... giving more details ... which prompted somebody in the audience to comment that they mananged to spend billions of dollars to prove that chips were less secure than magstripe.

one of the issues is that magstripe goes online and shutting down the account is countermeasure to lost/stolen/cloned card ... which didn't have any effect on a chip cloned card (it could continue to do fraudulent transactions long after the account had been deactivated).

In the middle of last decade, part of the program for deployment in the UK was to reverse the burden of proof in a dispute (when the chip card was used), i.e. it was up to the user to prove they hadn't performed the transaction rather than it had to be proved that they did perform the transaction (which is the current US regulation). I was contacted by legal representative in one such case ... where a person in the UK was disputing an ATM transactions. It wasn't up to the bank to produce surveillance video showing it was the person ... it was up to the person to produce a video proving it wasn't them (while things are moving that way in the US ... it would still take some doing to get there).

misc. past posts mentioning YES CARD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

disclaimer: in the mid-90s in the X9A10 financial standard working group, we had already considered all the types of vulnerabilities that the YES CARD would be susceptible to ... and precluded all of them as part of the X9.59 financial transaction standard. some refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
as well as the chip I designed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

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Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
Date: 26 June 2014
Blog: Enterprise Systems
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#27 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group

in lot more detail in ibm-main list, 1qtr2014 mainframe processor revenue is equivalent to 17 max conf. ec12 (@$33m) or 56 on annualized basis ... full yr is about 5 wafers from chip fab. in 32nm tech. current gen. is 22nm and coming online is 14nm. (full yr mainframe sales less than single wafer). each new tech generation can require new fab @$5B requiring hundreds of thousands of chip wafers sold per year

older cloud-ification CHARTS: Look How Astoundingly Cheap Cloud Computing Has Become
http://www.businessinsider.com/astoundingly-cheap-cloud-computing-2014-5

and massive scale of operation at cloud megadatacenters (a typical megadatacenter will have more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today)

Intel chases hyperscale datacentres with FPGA bolt-on; Summary: Intel's latest move to make it easier for web and cloud giants to customise their infrastructure to their hyperscale workloads sees it introduce reconfigurable silicon.
http://www.zdnet.com/intel-chases-hyperscale-datacentres-with-fpga-bolt-on-7000030718/
Intel unveils new Xeon chip with integrated FPGA, touts 20x performance boost
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184828-intel-unveils-new-xeon-chip-with-integrated-fpga-touts-20x-performance-boost

ec12 processor chips are built in 32nm tech .... ibm is announced selling it's chip business (doesn't have enuf volume) but nobody is interested in chip making fab/plants because they are so old

FYI chips are made in "wafers", a large number chips at a time. wafers are then cut into individual chips. process is moving from 300mm wafers to 450mm wafers ... larger number chips at about same cost. going from 32nm to 14nm for same chip means smaller faster and more power efficient. doing wafer size increase and 14nm change at same time results in about 12 times more chips/wafer. if ec12 followed Moore's law it would go from 75BIPS (processing power) @$33m to 100BIPS @$3m

by comparison a e5-2600v1 blade has processing power rating of 527BIPS (7-8times max configured ec12) and ibm had base list price of $1815 ... and could get 60-100 in single rack. e5-2600v2 is done in 22nm tech and e5-2600v3 comes out this yr in 14nm tech

older cloud-ification CHARTS: Look How Astoundingly Cheap Cloud Computing Has Become
http://www.businessinsider.com/astoundingly-cheap-cloud-computing-2014-5

and massive scale of operation at cloud megadatacenters (a typical megadatacenter will have more processing power than the aggregate of all mainframes in the world today)

Intel chases hyperscale datacentres with FPGA bolt-on; Summary: Intel's latest move to make it easier for web and cloud giants to customise their infrastructure to their hyperscale workloads sees it introduce reconfigurable silicon.
http://www.zdnet.com/intel-chases-hyperscale-datacentres-with-fpga-bolt-on-7000030718/
Intel unveils new Xeon chip with integrated FPGA, touts 20x performance boost
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184828-intel-unveils-new-xeon-chip-with-integrated-fpga-touts-20x-performance-boost

Cloud megadatacenters are mostly i86 ... but some have been piloting things like ARM. The cost of the systems has so dramatically declined that power is becoming a lot larger factor in total costs ... which have contributed to them being on the bleeding edge of green ... also working with chips that were originally developed for much greater power efficiency (things like battery life in portable devices).

Massive hyperscale operation also would provide motivation to do the work for FPGA support (given 20 times performance & similar power efficiency).

Note that things like RDBMS&SQL are relatively straight-forward to port across platforms. There are industry standard benchmarks ... like from TPC that now publish performance, price/performance, watts/performance, etc ... even IBM heavily participating for platforms other than mainframe.

Disclaimer: original RDBMS/SQL was system/r developed at IBM San Jose Research on VM370 370/145
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
and one of the major people involved was Jim Gray ... who also went on to play major role in creating TPC
http://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray.asp

when Jim was leaving SJR for Tandem ... he palmed a bunch of stuff off on me.

As an aside, it used to be that RISC chips had significant higher throughput than CISC I86 ... however for the past two decades, I86 have become increasingly a RISC core with hardware layer translating I86 instructions into RISC micro-ops. Even mainframe is increasingly having features that have been in RISC for decades. The claim is that significant part of per-processor improvement from z10->z196 and z196->ec12 is because of incorporating such features

I just do stats ... I left in in the early 90s when the company had gone into red and was being reorganized into the 13 baby blues in preparation for breaking up the company. went to work for financial company that was in the top ten buyers of ibm mainframes. one 450kloc cobol program that ran on 43 max. configured ibm mainframes ... required for nightly run ... no machine older than 18m. it wasn't their only large mainframe datacenter. in the late 90s they had major reengineering to move to large number of killer micros ( as did several other similar institutions). I did analysis of why it wouldn't work (that they ignored).

Note the reengineering failed and they had to fall back. however there are things that could be corrected and it could succeed (as could efforts at other similar institutions). note 1st qtr2014 financials has the equivalent of 14 max configured ec12 being sold and the large financial institution market account for major part of mainframe sales some recent posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#29 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#81 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#83 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#22 US Federal Reserve pushes ahead with Faster Payments planning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#90 Why do bank IT systems keep failing ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#10 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#78 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?

from 28Dec1992 "Baby Blue" reorganization in prep for breaking up the company
http://web.archive.org/web/20101120231857/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html

note after the big failures in the 90s of the large financial institutions to move to "killer micros", the number of mainframes somewhat stabilized for a time.

from earlier today in long running thread in "IBMers" group:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#65 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

ACS-360 was killed because executives thought that it might advance computer state-of-the-art too fast and IBM would loose control of the market (article also mentions ACS-360 features showing up more than 20yrs later in ES/9000)
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

Amdahl then leaves and starts his own computer company. In the first part of the 70s, he has seminar at MIT (large full auditorium, lots of people from the science center attend). during the seminar, a student asks him what justification did he use to get funding from the money people. He said it was that even if IBM was to completely walk away from 360/370, customers had already spent large billions on software development that would keep him in business through the end of the century. This was in the Future System period which was going to kill off 370, and the wording sort of implies he knew about it ... but he says he had no knowledge of Future System. Some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys
also
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/fs.html

The 23Jun69 unbundling announcement included starting to pay for software ... except the company managed to make the case that kernel/system software should still be free. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

However, the lack of 370 products during the FS period is credited with giving the clone processors a market foothold (when FS failed, there was then made rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline). The rise of the clone processors then was major factor in starting to charge of kernel/system software followed by OCO (object code only, no longer shipping software). Then in the late 80s, there was big drop in the mainframe market contributing to the company going into the red in the early 90s. Note in the mid-80s, top executives were predicting that company revenue was going to shortly double (mostly based on mainframe revenue) and there was massive internal building program to double mainframe hardware manufacturing capacity.

Contributing factor was talk by a senior disk engineer in the late 80s at an internal, world-wide, annual communication group conference. He started out by saying that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The communication group had stranglehold on datacenter with strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls and they were fighting off client/server and distributed computing trying to preserve SNA and their dumb terminal paradigm. The disk division was seeing the effects of data fleeing the datacenter to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. They had come up with a number of solutions to address the problem that were constantly vetoed by the communication group.

The disappearing clone (mainframe) processor market in the 90s was just another symptom of the massive downturn in the mainframe market (as opposed to the top executive predictions that it would double). Trivia: during executive interview as part of leaving in the early 90s, I was told that they could have forgiven me for being wrong, but they were never going to forgive me for being right.

This is long-winded related, recent post on the importance of freely available source code for agility, adaptability and innovation in evolving environment (also posted in IBM "Wild Ducks" group)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59

If you remember, the disk division was probably been the furthest along in the reorganization, having been rebranded adstar with all new signs.

We left summer of 1992 ... and are doing bunch of DBMS type stuff. However, there is a guy in the bowels of Armonk that periodically asks us for favors helping IBM company (we do for free). Then in 1993, he asks us if we would take a contract going around doing inventory of the interdivisional MOUs. The issue is that one division would have a contract with outside supplier that is being leveraged by other divisions. With the breakup of the company all those relationships evaporate and new contracts executed (we would build a sophisticated repository of all the complexity). Then Gerstner is brought in and reverses the breakup before we get started.

Note ROMP was joint effort between Research and OPD to do a 801/risc chip for the followon to displaywriter. When that is canceled, they look around and decide to retarget to unix workstation market and get the company that had done the port of unix for PC/IX (on ibm pc) to do one for ROMP. That ships as PC/RT and AIX. ROMP is followed by RIOS ... used in RS/6000 and AIX V3. past posts mentioning 801, risc, romp, iliad, rios, rs/6000, power, power/pc, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801

The IBM Palo Alto group had been working with UCB to do a BSD product offering on IBM mainframe (somewhat compete with Amdahls GOLD/AU). However before they ship they get retargeted to release it on PC/RT (as AOS, alternative to AIX).

The group is also working with UCLA on its LOCUS system (another UNIX work alike). Eventually that is released on IBM mainframe and 386 as AIX/370 and AIX/386 (totally unrelated to the AIX on PC/RT and RS/6000). AIX/370 then becomes AIX/ESA. recent posts mentioning locus
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#6 Application development paradigms [was: RE: Learning Rexx]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#21 The PDP-8/e and thread drifT?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#73 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out

a breakup more breakup refs, if you are interested:

Breaking Up May Be Hard To Do, But IBM Urged To Move On It
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930121&slug=1681168
Shakeup at IBM creates opportunities
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/shakeup-ibm-creates-opportunities-bby-michael-mccarthy-and-cathy-taylobbr-
Ibm After Akers
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1993-02-07/ibm-after-akers

After all, Akers spent much of his seven years on the job administering a series of turnaround plans, none of which took. With his latest program--based on breaking IBM into 13 "Baby Blues"--showing few signs of doing the trick, Akers finally decided to call it quits.

... snip ...

Rethinking IBM; An Exclusive Account of Lou Gerstner's First Six Months
http://tech-insider.org/os2/research/1993/1014.html

Gerstner took questions. Answering one, he revealed that he would not split IBM into freestanding Baby Blues -- his first break with Akers' plans

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:08:38 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

Linux is the quiet revolution that will leave Microsoft eating dust
http://phys.org/news/2014-06-linux-quiet-revolution-microsoft.html
Linux, the most widely used open source operating system in the world, has scored a major publicity coup in the revelation that it is used on 94% of the world's top 500 supercomputers.

... snip ...

slightly related (customer shops able to do their own system programming, increasing innovation especially in evolving environment), following my posts from google+ thread on first computer ...

program 709 fortran ibsys and 407 plug board. then got a student job porting 1401 MPIO to 360/30. Univ. had 709 with 1401 handling unit record ... tapes were moved between 1401 & 709 which ran tape->tape. IBM sold the univ 360/67 for replacement ... in transition 1401 was replaced with 360/30 but still had to do 709 unit record front end. I got to design & implement my own monitor, device drivers, storage management, interrupt handlers, error recover, etc. univ. shutdown datacenter for the weekend ... so I had machine room to myself from 8am sat. until 8am mon ... 48hrs w/o sleep made it little hard to make monday classes. When the 360/67 finally came it I was given responsibility for the operating system and system support.

... direct couple article
http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/os/dc.html

which leads to 360 ASP ... long ago and far away my wife was in the gburg group and one of the "catchers" for ASP turning into JES3

old post in thread on usenet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#77
with excerpt from Bob Halpern; group that did ASP and direct couple product were in LASC located at Kirkiby bldg in westwood and at WDPC.

... snip ...

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Alan Grayson: Is Keith Alexander Selling Classified Information to the Banks?

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Alan Grayson: Is Keith Alexander Selling Classified Information to the Banks?
Date: 27 June 2014
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/RYx838Mzs88

Alan Grayson: Is Keith Alexander Selling Classified Information to the Banks?
http://www.emptywheel.net/2014/06/25/alan-grayson-is-keith-alexander-selling-classified-information-to-the-banks/

Ex-NSA chief under scrutiny over speculated secrets leak
http://www.zdnet.com/ex-nsa-chief-under-scrutiny-over-speculated-secrets-leak-7000031005/
Snarky Lawmaker Reminds Former NSA Chief That Selling State Secrets Is Illegal
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/keith-alexander-security-consultant/
What is ex-NSA spyboss selling for $1m a month, asks US congressman
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/26/congressman_calls_for_investigation_into_exnsa_chiefs_security_consultancy/
Snarky Lawmaker Reminds Former NSA Chief That Selling State Secrets Is Illegal
http://www.wired.com/?p=1168981

Why Doesn't He Pitch Fiat White Collar Crime Relief To Citizens?
http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2014/06/why-doesnt-he-pitch-fiat-white-collar.html

financial was part of critical infrastructure protection
http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd/pdd-63.htm

however, in one meeting setup at the agency, we were told we weren't their customer and they never wanted to see us again. On the other hand ... frequently there were agency representatives at financial industry crypto standards meetings.

we were once told by a high level gov. official that the function of the federal gov. was to protect large institution status quo.

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 17:49:45 -0400
despen@verizon.net (Dan.Espen) writes:
(Following are the access methods and program products that support attachment of the 3101 to the System/370 or the 4300 Processors:...)

my cdi miniterm at home was replaced with 3101/topaz ... pictues of both cdi miniterm and 3101/topaz here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts

reference here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3101
3101 refs at bitsavers
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/31xx/

posts with several old emails from 1979/1980 about early topaz/3101
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#0 Why so little parallelism?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#4 Why so little parallelism?

includes email to fujisawa to get mod.2 upgrades to mod1 boarads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800311

reference to using series/1 to provide 3270 simulation for 3101 terminals
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800312

vm370 PVM was leveraged for 3270 simulation with 3101 terminals, which got even more sophisticated for ibm/pcs. PVM in conjunction with vm370 kernel "logical device" ... PVM would software simulate 3270 to the vm370 kernel using the logical device interface. It was used in variety of ways ... PVM over the internal network allowed a local 3270 to (3270) log in to a remote vm370 (with PVM providing the network forwarding). PVM modified to support and simulate 3270 using 3101 ... then could map it to logical device on local and remote vm370 systems.

This got incredibly more sophisticated with ibm/pc "pcterm" running on pc; pvm and pcterm kept track of cached strings and could transmit index to cached string ... rather than string itself ... if not cached, then would do transmission huffman compressed strings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding

In parallel with PVM use of logical device support for 3270 simulated devices ... the author of VMSG also did parasite/story ... cms application that did 3270 simulation along with terminal scripting (precursor to ibm/pc HLLAPI) ... old refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36 Newbie TOPS-10 7.03 questino

other past topaz/3101 refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#15 The Genealogy of the IBM PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#39 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#40 DEC and news groups
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#74 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#37 Baudot code direct to computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#51 Baudot code direct to computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#22 IBM PC competitors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#40 My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#66 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#0 tty
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#27 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#15 I actually miss working at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#27 Singer Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#16 Unbuffered glass TTYs?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#24 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#21 Teletypewriter Model 33
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#37 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services

old posts mentioning ibmpc pcterm for 3270 simulation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#7 3270 terminal keyboard??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#44 Mainframe Emulation Solutions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#0 Why so little parallelism?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#51 Baudot code direct to computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#20 Writing article on telework/telecommuting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#49 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service

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ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:07:42 -0400
"Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> writes:
Reflecting the fact that the channel is fundamentally half-duplex, so any derived sub-channel (on a single address) is necessarily half-duplex.

the fifo box for 3277 keyboard would queue up characters if the screen was being written which makes it look much closer to full-duplex from user point of view. recent posts mentioning 3277 fifo box:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#25 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#26 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal

the channel-extender box that i did for STL in 1980 had a channel attachment controller interface that could be configured. I could setup different subchannel addresses for input and output ... for output I even did pool of output subchannel addresses and just took the first available subchannel address in the output pool for writes ... and had queued reads on the pool of all subchannel addresses on the input pool. past posts mentioning channel-extender work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

as mentioned in previous references, the channel-extender work included downloading channel programs to remote channel emulator box ... which minimized the latency involved in the enormous amount of channel protocol chatter (only went back&forth between remote controller and remote channel ... with the long-haul link running much more efficient streaming data protocol).

the internal network people later in the 80s did a y-connector cable for 37x5 lines bascially each full-duplex line had a pair of 37x5 interfaces, one dedicated for output and one dedicated for input ... and a special RSCS DMTFDX line driver ... some past posts mentioning FDX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#35 HASP:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#44 filesystem structure, was tape format (long post)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003b.html#46 internal network drift (was filesystem structure)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#42 Multiple Virtual Memory

I've mentioned before getting asked in 1988, to help LLNL standardized some serial stuff they have which morphs in fibre-channel standard ... which included provisions for download i/o programs to the remote end to minimize protocol chatter (& associated latency) that has to flow over the fibre-channel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel

some of the mainframe channel engineers then become involved in fibre-channel and define an enormously heavy-weight protocol that drastically reduces throughput (compared to native fibre-channel througput). This morphs into FICON ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon
wiki reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FICON

the peak I/O throughput benchmark for z196 used 104 FICON to get 2M IOPS ... at about the same time there was a single fibre-channel announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over 1M IOPS (for single fibre-channel, two such fibre-channel would have higher native throughput than 104 FICON, FICON which is protocol layer running on top of fibre-channel).

recently there is description of "zHPF/TCW" enhancement to FICON that claims to get 30% improvement in throughput over standard FICON ... and appears to involve downloading of some portion of channel program to remote end (something like thirty yrs after I was doing full channel program download for channel extender in 1980).
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idas300/zhpfchpgm.htm
and
http://community.brocade.com/t5/Mainframe-Solutions/What-s-the-Buzz-With-zHPF-z-High-Performance-FICON/ba-p/35373

posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#60 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#62 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#66 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#71 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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10 Big Fat Lies and the Liars Who Told Them

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: 10 Big Fat Lies and the Liars Who Told Them
Date: 27 June 2014
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/XRM3FAyRDga

10 Big Fat Lies and the Liars Who Told Them
http://billmoyers.com/content/10-big-fat-lies-and-the-liars-who-told-them/
some amount of overlap with "Merchants of Doubt"
http://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Doubt-Erik-M-Conway-ebook/dp/B003RRXXO8/

Gerstner wins competition to be next CEO of AMEX, looser leaves and takes his protege with him. AMEX is in competition with KKR to do private equity LBO of RJR; KKR wins but runs into trouble and hires Gerstner away to head up RJR to turn it around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
RJR Nabisco Hires Gerstner as CEO : American Express President Termed an Expert Marketer
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-14/business/fi-612_1_american-express

then in 1993, IBM hires Gerstner away to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM
http://tech-insider.org/os2/research/1993/1014.html

April 1994, year after Gerstner joins IBM: 4. R.J. Reynolds on the health hazards of cigarettes
http://billmoyers.com/content/10-big-fat-lies-and-the-liars-who-told-them/5/

The Truth about 935 Lies
http://www.935lies.com/

and totally unrelated reference to an author of "merchants of doubt"
https://plus.google.com/115096374883509198745/posts/T1djhs4cBnJ

posts mentioning Gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:10:19 -0400
Top 10 Supercomputers Worldwide
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322887

supercomputer rapid evolution, change and innovation is dependent on open source software as an enabler (or proprietary, closed source, object-code-only is a barrier to innovation).

this is analogous to the theme that the founders originally intended the patent office to protect individual inventors as way of promoting innovation ... but it is currently being perverted to protect the status guo of large institutions ... and fight off change.

recent posts mentioning supercomputer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#69 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#81 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#14 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#40 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#50 Revamped PDP-11 in Honolulu or maybe Santa Fe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#83 Costs of core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#16 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#17 Emulating z CPs was: Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#21 Is end of mainframe near?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#33 Can Ginni really lead the company to the next great product line?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#56 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

past posts mentioning patent office & innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#92 Innovation and iconoclasm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#34 The never-ending SCO lawsuit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#42 The IBM "Open Door" policy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#92 What if practices rather than ideas are the main sources of innovation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#53 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#61 Google Patents Staple of '70s Mainframe Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#70 How internet can evolve
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#39 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#40 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#36 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#37 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#88 Microsoft, IBM lobbying seen killing key anti-patent troll proposal

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Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:33:03 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#56 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

they eventually built a 2nd 10m ... and when synched together the claimed resolution was the distance between the far edges of the two mirrors ... 85m
http://spacecraftkits.com/KFacts.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/universe/exploration/keck_observatory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._M._Keck_Observatory
http://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/keck-telescope.html

now they are working 30m

Hawaii board advances $1B telescope pending review
http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-board-advances-1b-telescope-pending-review-013013419.html
Hawaii board advances $1B telescope pending review
http://phys.org/news/2014-06-hawaii-board-advances-1b-telescope.html

wiki ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Meter_Telescope

492 individual 1.4m hexagonal mirrors

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:39:38 -0400
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
How did IBM mainframes ever deal with 2741s?

cp67 was installed on univ 360/67 last week of jan1968 and had 2741 and 1052 terminal support. the virtual machine support also included translation of 1052-7 (mainframe operator console) in/out and specific terminal.

this was done via 2702 terminal control ... which had device specifc "port/line scanners" (one per terminal type) ... type of port/line scanner could be switched under software control for each port. cp67 shipped with dynamic termeinal type identification ... making use of being able to switch between the 2741 & 1052 port/line scanner under software control.

the univ. had some number of tty33s and one 35 ... so I extended cp67 to support ascii/tty terminals and also extended the dynamic terminal type identification logic to include tty. I had also wanted to be able to support single dialup number for a "hunt group" (pool of lines) for all terminals. it turns out the 2702 had a limitation ... while it was possible to dynamically switch the port/line scanner for each 2702 port ... the line speed was hardwired for each port. the dynamic terminal type worked for leased lines ... where tty was guaranteed to be connected to port with correct line-speed ... but it wasn't possible for terminals with different line-speeds share the same pool of ports.

this somewhat the motivation for the univ to start a clone controller project ... that reverse engineered the 360 channel interface and built an interface board for an Interdata/3 programmed to emulate 2702 ... but extended to do dynamic line speed identification. four of us get written up as responsible for (some part of) clone controller business ... since interdata started selling it to other customers as 2702 clone.

the support then was extended to use interdata/4 as the mainframe channel interface and a cluster of interdata/3s (all repackaged in single box) as port interfaces. this continued to be sold as clone terminal controller under the P/E logo after they acquired Interdata.

In the late 90s, I ran into one of these boxes in large financial transaction datacenter handling majority of the east coast point-of-sale credit card terminal transaction dial-ins.

past posts mentioning clone controller
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

past posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#29 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#41 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#51 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#54 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#60 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#62 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#66 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#71 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#72 ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#74 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:44:27 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#37 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#49 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#71 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

Date: 04/23/80 07:08:04
From: wheeler
To: somebody in lexington

xxxxx in ykt is responsible for PVM, there was a 3101 meeting in ykt last week. yyyyy from here has written a 3270 to 3101 data stream converter. They agreed to attempt prototype PVM with data stream converter for 3101 in two weeks. Will let you know how it works when it is up. -- Basically 3101 would 'dial into' the real machine (if it is remote) and then 'DIAL PVM' virtual machine. PVM would know that it is 3101 and provide ascii line support as if it was attached device. PVM then would use the standard PVM CP diagnose to simulate remote 3270 (just like it uses it to support logons from other machines) -- get standard PVM documentation.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 04/24/80 17:43:41
To: wheeler
From: yyyyy

Lynn,

xxxxx and I have a test version of the PVM 3101 running. if you are interested in trying it send me a msg

I can not promise that it wont have some problems but most 3270 stuff that I have tried seems to work.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 04/28/80 12:31:12
From: wheeler
To: somebody in lexington

we have test version of PVM up that supports 3101. Still a couple of problems but looks like it is good enuf to work with.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 04/29/80 08:49:42
From: wheeler
To: somebody in UK

several bugs still in PVM for 3101, but it is useable. Will ask yyyyy to send you a copy when he is done. Will take a look at EDITM (edit module?).


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 04/29/80 14:24:59
From: wheeler
To: somebody in Japan (via the email gateway to internal ITIPS/telex)

re: 3101 block mode cards;

I have received both cards about two weeks ago. I initialy tested both of them last week and they both appeared to work. I was out last week and during that time one of the cards appeared to stop working. In test mode it displays a machine/logic check. We will be returning that card to you. The other card continues to work in both CHAR and BLOCK mode. The prototype VM code to simulate a 3101 (in block mode) as a remote 3270 is being tested and the machine appears to be working correctly. The only problem I've encountered with the second board is that I'm unable to switch from BLOCK mode to CHAR mode while the machine is on. I can move the switch but it has no effect. I must power off the unit and then power it back on in order to make the BLOCK/CHAR mode switch take effect (there is no problem switching from CHAR to BLOCK mode while the machine is running though).


... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 05/13/80 12:48:14
From: wheeler
To: somebody in toronto

proto-type PVM (passthru) is up and running with 3270 to 3101 data stream converter (i.e. from 3101; DIAL PVM; select local nodeid; logon onto VM as a remote 3270). No more CP changes and none of the 3101 stuff works then (i.e. 3101 orders from virtual machine are invalid 3270 orders so the data stream converter translates them to blanks, or whatever). Blank compression routine is dependent on CMS nucleus modification from Palo Alto.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

aka none of the ascii terminal hacks work because datastream is assumed to be 3270 and then undergoes 3270->ascii translation.

Date: 05/14/80 09:44:11
From: wheeler
To: somebody in UK

pvmtest is at sjrlvm1. 3101 block mode terminals can 'dial pvmtest' & pvmtest will simulate remote 3270s using the 3101 (i'm running that way right now). It usually crashes and/or has a new version loaded at least two/three times a day. When the code gets cleaned up better, it will be merged into standard PVM machine (and PVMTEST will be eliminated).


... snip ... top of post, old email index

previous topaz/3101 related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790111
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email790111b
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800301
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800311
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800312
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email800314

and then Boeing would like the support
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#email810820

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:48:31 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
in the early 80s ... SJMN ran a series about employment in the valley was like that ... if you had stayed with the same employer for more than five yrs ... you would be significantly underpaid.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#34 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#35 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

and a more recent version

Employees Who Stay In Companies Longer Than Two Years Get Paid 50% Less
http://www.forbes.com/sites/cameronkeng/2014/06/22/employees-that-stay-in-companies-longer-than-2-years-get-paid-50-less/

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EBFAS

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: EBFAS
Date: 28 June 2014
Blog: IBM Wild Ducks
the EBFAS was posted to a number of foras (besides Wild Ducks)
http:/www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS

the following was posted to the Wild Ducks EBFAS discussion ... including a number of others
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#58 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#74 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

slightly more ibm & computer related (agile, adaptable, innovation):

Linux dominates supercomputers as never before; Summary: The latest list of the fastest supercomputers in the world is out -- and not only does Linux rule, it's almost eliminated all of its competition.
http://www.zdnet.com/linux-dominates-supercomputers-as-never-before-7000030890/

a major issue was that builders of these supercomputers ... required lots of innovation ... not exactly COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) ... to go along with the rapid hadware & system innovation ... they needed full software source in order achieve corresponding rapid software evoluation. Little of this would have ever happened if things had been restricted to proprietary systems (especially if full source had restrictions).

once examples existed ... some of the proprietary systems then attempt to follow in the footsteps already blazed.

part of the issue was the (proprietary) unix wars of the late 80s & early 90s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
Although not released until 1992 due to legal complications, development of 386BSD, from which NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD descended, predated that of Linux. Linus Torvalds has said that if 386BSD had been available at the time, he probably would not have created Linux.[30]

... snip ...

unix wars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars
which also prompted OSF for an alternative (proprietary) unix-like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation

as aside, I tried to have an effort with large number of processors in racks in the mid-80s and then again in the early 90s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
but not restricted to scientific and numeric intensive (jan1992)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

however, as I've mentioned a number of times, project was transferred, we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors, .... and quickly announced as supercomputer

ibm press from 17feb1992, "scientific and technical only"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters1
more ibm press 11may1992, "company caught by surprise by national lab interest in cluster computing"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#6000clusters2

much earlier, I had done 4341 benchmarks for LLNL looking at 70 4341 comuter farm ... at a time when full vm370 source still shipped to customers ... and it was common for maintenance and system builds be done all from source
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

The 23Jun69 unbundling announcement included starting to pay for software ... except the company managed to make the case that kernel/system software should still be free.

During the Future System effort in the early 70s, 370 efforts were being killed off ... the lack of 370 products during this period is credited with giving clone processors a market foothold. With the death of FS there was mad rush to get 370 stuff back into product pipeline (the death was delayed by top executives trying to save face as well as change in IBM culture to make no waves and sycophancy in place of open debate of Watsons). The rise of clone processors then contributes to decision to start charging for kernel software and then later to OCO (object code only) and pullback from freely available source.

Linux is the quiet revolution that will leave Microsoft eating dust
http://phys.org/news/2014-06-linux-quiet-revolution-microsoft.html
Linux, the most widely used open source operating system in the world, has scored a major publicity coup in the revelation that it is used on 94% of the world's top 500 supercomputers.

... snip ...

Top 10 Supercomputers Worldwide
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1322887

supercomputer rapid evolution, change and innovation is dependent on open source software as an enabler (or proprietary, closed source, object-code-only is a barrier to innovation).

this is analogous to the theme that the founders originally intended the patent office to protect individual inventors as way of promoting innovation ... but it is currently being perverted to protect the status quo of large institutions ... and fight off change.

this account by IBM executive "The rise and fall of IBM"
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07

describes that mainframe clone controllers were major motivation for the Future System effort.

Then as FS was failing, Ferguson/Morris 1993 "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World"
http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Wars-The-Post-IBM-World/dp/1587981394

describes how top executives stifling dissent and replacing Watsons' open debate corporate culture with make no waves and sycophancy under Opel and Akers. Also, the FS killing off internal 370 competition led to lack of 370 products during the period, resulting in clone processors getting market foothold

The rise of clone processors then results in object-code-only (eliminating community access to source, a long time major source of innovation and growth) trying to protect the status quo (a combination of trying to protect both executive and corporate status quo)

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:03:50 -0400
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
this somewhat the motivation for the univ to start a clone controller project ... that reverse engineered the 360 channel interface and built an interface board for an Interdata/3 programmed to emulate 2702 ... but extended to do dynamic line speed identification. four of us get written up as responsible for (some part of) clone controller business ... since interdata started selling it to other customers as 2702 clone.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#76 Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

recent x-over post from (closed linkedin) "IBM Wild Ducks" discussion

this account by IBM executive "The rise and fall of IBM"
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07

describes that mainframe clone controllers were major motivation for the Future System effort. posts mentioning clone controllers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

Then as FS was failing, Ferguson/Morris 1993 "Computer Wars: The Post-IBM World"
http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Wars-The-Post-IBM-World/dp/1587981394

describes how top executives stifling dissent and replacing Watsons' open debate corporate culture with make no waves and sycophancy under Opel and Akers. Also, the FS killing off internal 370 competition led to lack of 370 products during the period, resulting in clone processors getting market foothold. some FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

The rise of clone processors then results in object-code-only (eliminating community access to source, a long time major source of innovation and growth) trying to protect the status quo (a combination of trying to protect both executive and corporate status quo)

this is along the lines of other recent posts about availability of source code is an innovation enabler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#44 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#10 Can the mainframe remain relevant in the cloud and mobile era?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#19 The IBM Strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#22 Has the last fighter pilot been born?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#59 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#65 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#69 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#74 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#79 EBFAS

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:16:14 -0400
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
DEC's Consultant Engineer levels were equivalent to VPs.

from IBMJARGON:

dual ladder - n. The principle that one can rise in the company at equal levels in either a managerial or a technical job. Once impossible outside the USA (most countries did not even maintain the practice of having different titles for technical and managerial personnel) but more fashionable since the late 1980s.

... snip ...

or at least the claim ... my case, recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#35 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

above references previous posts describing how a submitted an official protest about being significant underpaid, got back official written response from local head of HR saying my complete career had been reviewed and I was making exactly what I was suppose to be; I then wrote a response (including both original & their responses), pointing out that I was being asked to interview new hires to work in a proposed new group under my direction ... and HR was making offers that were 1/3rd more than I was currently making. I never got a written response, but a month later I got 1/3rd raise (putting me level with what they were offering the new hires)

in the wake of "Tandem Memos" (for which I was blamed) ... there was increased corporate stress on there being "dual ladder" ... from IBMJARGON:
Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticised the way products were are developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.

... snip ...

recent posts mentioning "Tandem Memos"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#21 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#24 Tandem Memos
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#26 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#47 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?

somebody in POK once did a parody ... pencils with the caption: "{xxxx} for lab director, raises or promotions, but not both" ... aka as if engineers could vote for director of the lab. past refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000b.html#60 South San Jose (was Tysons Corner, Virginia)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#38 S/360 development burnout?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#22 Infiniband's impact was Re: Intel's 64-bit strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002b.html#23 Infiniband's impact was Re: Intel's 64-bit strategy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#35 HASP:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#22 Patent #6886160
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#51 The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#66 Help settle a job title/role debate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#5 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#11 Microprocessors with Definable MIcrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#54 1132 printer history

something analogous comes up with employee education department when I tried to get Boyd's briefings to be done through them. they original agree, but as I provide more information they change their mind and ask that I restrict attendence to senior members of competitive analysis group (explaining that IBM spends lots of money&effort on training managers on dealing with workers, and exposing workers to Boyd would be counter productive). posts mentioning boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

In Boyd's briefing on organic design for command and control he would stress that the US military created a rigid, top-down, command and controll for conduct of WW2 ... and that former military officers were starting to contaminate US corporate culture as they climbed the corporate ladder. This could help account for recent reports that ratio of executive to worker compensation exploding to over 400:1 (after being 20:1 for a long time and 10:1 in most of the rest of the world) ... justified on the assumption that only the executives at the very top know what they are doing and the rest of corporation has little knowledge/skills and need careful/detailed direction. recent posts mentioning 400:1 compensation ratio:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#14 Before the Internet: The goldn age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#15 Why IBM Is Tumbling: BRIC Sales Plunge, Total Revenue Lowest Since 2009
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#29 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 10:35:10 -0400
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
Come to think of that, you must be right too. After all, one could hook up an IBM 360 mainframe *to a Bell 103 modem*.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#76 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution

or at least connected to the line-scanner in 360 terminal controller box.

"hunt group"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_hunting

univ had rack sized telco box ... with all the stuff inside ... and be able to programmed for "base" phone number that would "roll-over" to first non-busy phone line in a specified pool/group. near front-top was array of 32(?) white lighted square buttons that represented each line served by the box.

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Wastewater well suspended after "frackquakes" rock Colorado

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Wastewater well suspended after "frackquakes" rock Colorado
Date: 29 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
Wastewater well suspended after "frackquakes" rock Colorado; Regulators are calling the move a "cautionary step"
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/25/fracking_wastewater_well_suspended_after_earthquakes_rock_colorado/

There were stories from sometime in the 70s (early 80s?) about pumping water into ground to retrieve oil in Colorado was suspended because the earthquakes were the result. This was well before I heard the term fracking. This makes it sound like Colorado never experienced it before.

found a reference .... actually dates back to 1962: "Do any man-made influences affect seismicity?"
http://www.data.scec.org/Module/footnt04.html

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Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal
Date: 29 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
Sign the petition: Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal
https://www.credomobilize.com/petitions/sign-the-petition-allow-post-offices-to-offer-basic-banking-services-1

note rhetoric on the floor of congress was that the primary purpose of 1999 bank modernization act was to prevent new entries into banking (GLBA, now better known for repeal of glass-steagall), specifically calling out walmart & microsoft. posts mentioning Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

a decade ago, when walmart was planning on buying a Utah ILC (as work-around), saying that it would only be used to become its own acquiring bank (walmart represents 25-30% of retail transactions in US, becoming its own acquiring bank would eliminate having to pay interchange fees to its current acquiring bank, a large too-big-to-fail). NY banks started campaign to get small community banks to write their congressmen protesting Walmart buying an Utah ILC (which was primarily a problem for Walmart's too big to fail acquiring bank). recent posts mentioning Utah ILC:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#20 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#76 Did these tech and telecom companies assess the risk and return with respect to Anti-Money Laundering challenges?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess

posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

And from long ago and far away, Triumphant Plutocracy, loc754-62

In 1872, the ring of bankers in New York sent the following circular to every bank in the United States: "Dear Sir: It is advisable to do all in your power to sustain such prominent daily and weekly newspapers, especially the agricultural and religious press, as will oppose the issuing of greenback paper money, and that you also withhold patronage or favors from all applicants who are not willing to oppose the Government issue of money. Let the Government issue the coin and the banks issue the paper money of the country, for then we can better protect each other. To repeal the law creating National Bank notes, or to restore to circulation the Government issue of money, will be to provide the people with money, and will therefore seriously affect your individual profit as bankers and lenders. See your Congressman at once, and engage him to support our interests that we may control legislation."

... snip ...

recent posts mentioning "Triumphant Plutocracy"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#40 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#20 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#6 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#93 Oligarchy Controls U.S. War-Making
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess

wallstreet owns congress ... local washington press will sometimes refer to it as Kabuki Theater ... what you see publicly has little to do with what is really going on.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#kabuki.theater

Example is Sarbanes-Oxley ... rhetoric was that it would prevent future ENRONs and WORLDCOMs and guarantee executives and auditors did jail time. However it actually required that SEC do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't think SEC was doing anything, GAO started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing increase after Sarbanes-Oxley (and nobody doing jail time)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

Jan 2009, I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora Hearings (30s senate hearings that led to Glass-Steagall and numerous criminal prosecutions; had been scanned the fall before at Boston Public Library) with lots of internal cross-links and lots of URLs between what happened this time and what happened then (reference that the new congress might have some appetite to do something). I worked on it for awhile and then got a call saying it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet cash totally burying capital hill)

Nobody doing jail time for financial mess ... 70 times larger than S&L crisis that had 1000 felony convictions ...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/30000-criminal-referrals-led-1000-felony-convictions-major-fraud-cases-sl-crisis-even-single-prosecution-today-even-though-2008-crisis-70-times-bigger.html

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The End of the Internet?

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: The End of the Internet?
Date: 29 June 2014
Blog: Facebook
The End of the Internet? How regional networks may replace the World Wide Web
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/07/the-end-of-the-internet/372301/

We were originally suppose to get $20M from NSF to tie together the supercomputers centers; then congress cut the budget and few other things happened, finally NSF releases RFP but internal corporate politics prevents us from bidding. Director of NSF tries to help but that just makes the internal politics worse. With regional networks starting to tie into the supercomputer centers, it morphs into the NSFNET backbone ... precursor to modern internet. Note on the other side, the gov in the late 80s & early 90s decreed the elimination of the internet and everything move to OSI (GOSIP). old email with NSFNET refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

IMPs and Arpanet access were tightly controlled. The internal network was larger than the arpanet from just about the beginning until sometime late '85 or early '86. At the time of the 1Jan1983 great switch over to TCP/IP (& internetworking), there were approx 100 IMPs ... while the internal network was about to pass 1000 nodes.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 07:47:15 -0400
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:
I read a story once of someone who was Learning Japanese, quite happy with progress, then the teacher(sana?) said "So far so good, now we must learn how to speak to someone of a different social station".

Knowing how some important US dress in an ordinary way, must be a problem deciding how to talk to them.


I was on business trip to japan in the 70s (back when yen was something like 330/dollar) ... with a male/anglo/canadian who spoke Japanese. he told a story of making presentation in japanese and telling the audience he had learned japanese from his roommate in college. at the break somebody told him he was speaking woman's language (much loss of face).

exchange of business cards is formal ritual. my career I had tried hard to have no title printed on my card ... which was confusing in that culture.

past posts mentioning yen/dollar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#34 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#35 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#2 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#17 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#47 First 5.25in 1GB drive?

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:42:20 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Sort of. Full-duplex line, but still only transmission in one direction at a time.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#72 ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

that was why internal network came up with y-connector and software changes to operate full-duplex with two separate port/addresses ... one dedicated to outgoing and one dedicated to incoming ... aka dual-simplex (one in each direction) ... basically how fiber-optics operates.

a couple past y-connector posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#49 Mainframe Hall of Fame: 17 New Members Added
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#42 Multiple Virtual Memory

I've mentioned that after I did channel-extender support in 1980, there was attempt to release it ... but group in POK playing with fiber manage to block it because they were concerned that if it was in the market, it might be harder to justify releasing their stuff. they finally got it out a decade later as ESCON with es/9000 in 1990. past posts mentioning channel-extender
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

but ESCON was already obsolete ... dual simplex, pair of cables ... transmitted at 200mbits in each direction ... however they layered traditional half-duplex IBM channel protocol chatter would only claim 17mbyte/sec. in turns out one of the rs/6000 engineers in the late 80s started playing with the POK technology ... increased it to 220mbits and operated concurrently, full-duplex that shipped with rs/6000 as SLA (serial link adaptor) capable of 440mbits throughput (220mbits concurrent in each direction) ... but wasn't interoperable with ESCON.

Overlapped with SLA work, in 1988, I was asked if I could help LLNL with getting some of their serial stuff standardized ... which eventually morphs into fibre-channel standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel

After finishing SLA, the engineer wants to start work on a 800mbit (concurrent, 1.6gbit aggregate) version of SLA ... but we convince him to get involved with fibre channel instead ... and he becomes the secretary of the fibre channel standards group.

Date: 24 August 1985, 13:48:03 CDT
To: wheeler

Re: Your note of 08/19/85 09:46:54

It is my understanding that RLS only has funding thru this next year. I should not expect them to do anything wrt 3088s.

I see several locations with DMTVMC line groups. I presume they would benefit from your work. In any case we should like to see anything your group comes up with.

xxxxx has on his list of things to do a new driver called DMTFDX (full duplex). It would drive two pipes (CTC or BSC or RLS or whatever we might use). The protocol would use one path for sending only, the other for receiving only. Several files would be sent at a time with some scheme (I don't recall) for comfirming good blocks sent. Pete started this quite some time ago and now is finally getting back to it. We are anxious to try this for our DMTRLSR3 links which are notoriously slow. The CTC-silliness in RLSR3 make things much slower than they need to be.

In any case, please keep in touch about developments in your area. Thanks.


... snip ... top of post, old email index

In HSDT, I had a bottleneck problem; VNET/RSCS relied on vm spool for local storage and the api would do 4k block transfer ... but was synchronous ... i.e. vnet/rscs was non-executable during the 4k block transfer. while vm spool ran at disk speek, VNET/RSCS requests would be in queue with other requests ... so VNET/RSCS throughput might only be 5-6 4k block transfers/sec. Running 56kbit/sec link sustained could require single 4k block transfer/sec ... change to full-duplex is two 4k transfers/sec. three such 56kbit links would then saturate the vm spool api throughput.

I was running multiple T1 links full-duplex ... for VNET/RSCS to operate at those speeds I needed 75-80 4k block transfers/sec per link ... so I had done complete rework of the vm spool implementation, read-ahead, write-behind, multiple block transfer, and contiguous allocation as well as asynchronous API. past posts mentioning HSDT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

I was increasingly pushing to have the corporate backbone install the vm spool changes on heavily loaded network loaded machines. This is old email about it eventually wasn't going to happen ... the communication group was spreading misinformation about SNA in effort to convert the internal network to SNA ... and they were able to also get technical people excluded from the corporate network meetings ... so decisions could be purely be done by management (w/o letting technical issues interfering)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#email870302
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#email870306

other old internal network email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vnet

as an aside ... this was going on when the VM TCP/IP product was already available ... and it would be significantly more efficient and cost/effective to have moved internal VNET/RSCS network support to TCP/IP rather than SNA. I've mentioned before that it was about this time I had also done the RFC1044 support for TCP/IP. The original mainframe TCP/IP was getting approx. 44kbyte/sec sustained using nearly full 3090 processor. Some tuning tests of the RFC1044 changes at Cray Research got channel speed sustained (1mbyte/sec) between 4341 and cray using only modest amount of 4341 (about 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed). posts mentioning RFC1044 support
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

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The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:30:36 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#72 ancient terminals, was The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#0 The Decline and Fall of IBM

oh and big motivation for the 1980 channel-extender work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

was that IBM STL (now silicon valley lab) was moving 300 people from the IMS group to an offsite bldg. with dataprocessing back to STL datacenter. They had tried remote 3270 ... multiple 3270s terminals off 3270 controller that had 19.2kb link back to the datacenter and found it totally unacceptable ... they were used to vm370 channel attached 3270 controlleres with small subsecond response.

the channel-extender work had channel emulator at the remote site where channel attached controlleres were connected ... and channel programs were downloaded to the remote channel emulator ... this went a long way to masking the enormous half-duplex channel protocol chatter (which would have been severely aggravated by the increased distance), and allowing the actual link to be run full-duplex (dual simplex). As a result they didn't notice any difference in response between 3270 in STL and 3270 at the remote bldg.

other trivia ... the increasing deployment of terminals in large corporate bldgs ... resulted in enormous weight of 3270 coax cable point-to-point runs ... between the datacenters and each terminal. In some bldgs, the 3270 cable weight was threatening to exceed floor loading capacity. This was major motivation for introduction of token-ring ... run single T/R CAT5 from datacenter to departmental wiring closet ... and then CAT5 from wiring closet to each terminal/PC. Design point of IBM/PC 16mbit T/R cards was terminal emulation with 300 or more stations sharing single 16mbit bandwidth (via a series of bridges). some past refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

This comes up in PC/RT to RS/6000. For PC/RT the workstation division had down their own 16bit AT BUS 4mbit T/R card ... however for the RS/6000 they were directed that they had to use corporate standard 16mbit T/R microchannel card. The issue was that the throughput of the 16mbit microchannel T/R card was less than the PC/RT 4mbit T/R card (aka a pc/rt server with 4mbit t/r had higher throughput than RS/6000 with 16mbit t/r card).

The "new" Almaden research bldg had been extensively wired with cat5 assuming 16mbit t/r ... but they actually deployed 10mbit ethernet that ran over CAT5 ... not just the per card throughput issue ... but they also found out that 10mbit ethernet actually had more aggregate LAN throughput and lower latency than 16mbit t/r. It was further aggrevated by 10mbit enet use with tcp/ip and routers (instead of bridges, which met that the higher effective bandwidth of each LAN segment was shared just between the users on each segment, instead of 300+ users effecitvely sharing 5-6mbits, 6-10users were sharing 8.5mbits) plus you could more than 12-15 high-performance 10mbit enet cards for the price of a low-performance 16mbit t/r microchannel card.

Lots out of IBM reports & press at the time showing 16mbit T/R compared to ethernet ... appeared to have used for comparison early 3mbit ethernet before they implemented listen before transmit (and do whatever necessary to suppress things like what IBM Almaden research found).

At the time, we had also come up with 3-tier architecture (was written into response to a large gov. RFI at the time) and was out pitching it to customer executives ... and taking lots of internal flak from the T/R people and the communication group. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier

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IBM, Lenovo server deal potentially scuppered over security

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: IBM, Lenovo server deal potentially scuppered over security
Date: 01 July, 2014
Blog: IBMers
IBM, Lenovo server deal potentially scuppered over security
http://www.zdnet.com/ibm-lenovo-server-deal-potentially-scuppered-over-security-7000030961/

Note that Gerstner had previously been president of AMEX ... which was in a battle with KKR for private equity take-over of RJR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

KKR wins ... but then hires Gerstner away to turn-around RJR ... some discussed here:
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

After Gerstner leaves IBM he goes on to head up another large private-equity company which buys a company that is one of the largest gov. out-sourcers ... including being Snowden's employer. 70% of intelligence budget and over half the people are outsourced to "for-profit" companies
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

posts mentioning Gerstner
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

Note IBM had previously sold the x86 desk and laptop business to Lenovo and current issue is selling its x86 server business to Lenovo. some recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#14 IBM to invest 1.2B into Cloud Data Centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#34 IBM sells x86 server business to Lenovo (was Levono)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#48 IBM Dumps Its Server Business On Lenovo For $2.3B
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#96 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#65 Is end of mainframe near ?

US gov. complaining about some of their servers coming from a Chinese company is somewhat the analogy of the explanation for a big downturn in IBM mainframe business was China market reaction to the stories that US gov. installs backdoors in dataprocessing equipment sent overseas (aka US gov. is worried that other govs. might do the same thing that the US gov. has been accused of).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#56 China Wants Banks To Remove High-End IBM Servers Amid Spy Dispute

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Friden Flexowriter equipment series

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:52:31 -0400
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
There was a constant stream of stories about how the Norden bombsight could drop a bomb into a pickle barrel. It would take a damn big pickle barrel. ISTM that a few minutes with a calculator would have shown how futile this was. I think that thousands of US men were killed needlessly during the "precision bombing" era of WW II. I don't know when that era ended.

Strategic bombing survey ... 1/3rd of ww2 spending and contributed little or nothing to the war effort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_survey

most effective was close air support "Air power and maneuver warfare"
https://archive.org/details/airpowermaneuver00mart

there was something about desert storm needed much less munitions because of precision weapons. however it is mostly missiles and A10s with depleted uranium 30mm shells (again close air support) ... not high altitude bombing
http://www.gao.gov/products/NSIAD-97-134
desert storm precision guided munitions
http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-PGM-ODS-92.html

invasion of Iraq claims much less munitions compared to desert storm because of precision weapons (basically each next generation claiming previous generations weren't precision)
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles2003/20030522.asp

one of the issues for invasion of iraq was no study about effectiveness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

of course all along there are reports that Iraq invasion was misdirection and diversion away from Saudi Arabia ... on going from yesterday
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/07/01/4212644/fbi-records-chilling-find-in-bradenton.html

another ongoing thread that Iraq learned in desert storm to avoid hard targets vulnerable to US air superiority ... which may contribute little investigation because of the lack of hard targets destroyed by traditional military forces.

I got recently into some long-winded discussions about the 2003 iraq invasion about hard targest destroyed (similar to that found in GAO desert storm study). I was trying to get number of depleted uranium ammo used in 2003 invasion ... which are hard target specific ... UNEP was trying to get tons of depleted uranium ammo as measure of health effects. UNEP has estimate between 170 and 1700 metric tons. 30mm has 280grams of depleted uranium ... or equivalent of between 600K and 6M 30mm rounds. Other estimates are only 300K 30mm rounds.

From GAO desert storm report, A10 fired 5000 maverick missiles and 1M 30mm DU rounds, destroying 5000 targets (about 1 missile and 200 rounds per target; tanks, armored vehicles, trucks, radar) ... although the 30mm rounds were more effective than the missiles and 30mm aggregate cost was only 1/5th the aggregate missile cost.

The GAO report also has the desert storm air campaign so effective that Iraqis were walking away from their tanks (as sitting ducks). Later counts of Iraqi tanks destroyed during ground war avoided mentioning how many were abandened. 2003 Iraqi invasion reports a total of 3000 Iraqi tanks destroyed and/or abandoned (doesn't differentiate ... and/or even whether any of the destroyed had anybody home).

recent posts mentioning iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#13 Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#42 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#46 What Gates Didn't Get Done
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#47 McCain: Send Petraeus back to Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#49 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#61 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#79 Army Modernization Is Melting Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#92 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#54 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#106 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#83 11 Years to Catch Up with Seymour
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#99 Reducing Army Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#103 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#2 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#3 Let's Face It--It's the Cyber Era and We're Cyber Dumb
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#11 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#12 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#68 The Pentagon Spent $2.7 Billion on an Intelligence System That Doesn't Work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#86 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#46 The Pentagon Wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#68 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#69 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#70 Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#22 $40 billion missile defense system proves unreliable
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#36 The Designer Of The F-15 Explains Just How Stupid The F-35 Is

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Friden Flexowriter equipment series

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:19:19 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series

from
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing

Note that while the potential of strategic airstrike had been proven in Guernica ... it didn't work that well for the US in WW2. From "America's Defense Meltdown". loc3214:

Half of America's total World War II budget went to U.S. air power and, of that half, 65 percent went to multi-engine bombers. A major study to quantify the effectiveness of this huge investment was initiated in October 1944 at the direction of President Roosevelt. The United States Strategic Bombing Survey (USSBS) was to consist of a small group of civilian experts.

loc3255:

In conclusion, the RAF and U.S. Army Air Force bomber commands fared rather poorly in their strategic bombardment campaigns. Eight of nine of the strategic bombardment campaigns were failures, contributing little to Allied victory.

... snip ...

... Guernica was small Basque town destroyed in 1937 by bombing in Spanish civil war

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Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:51:20 -0400
Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> writes:
I'm disappointed. After TOTALLY taking this off-topic you haven't mentioned Boyd yet.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#91 Friden Flexowriter equipment series

yesterday at starbucks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203455368520509&set=a.10201688087499588.1073741825.1101890183
from
http://teespring.com/boyd-original-gangster

strategic bombing survey theme was somewhat effectiveness claims for precision/strategic bombing was greatly exaggerated and enormously expensive in ww2 ... which is only slowly improving ... still having problems
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-10/b-1-stealth-bomber-friendly-fire-strike-kills-5-us-soldiers-afghanistan

the CAS people even claim that some the A10 missiles were responsible for friendly fire in desert storm ... part of 30mm DU being more effective

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Friden Flexowriter equipment series

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 16:55:58 -0400
greenaum@gmail.com (greenaum) writes:
You have to wonder if all this depleted uranium had enough U-235 left to make it worth refining... Obviously, I realise what "depleted" means, but compared to the trouble of digging the stuff out of the ground, and the chemistry of purifying the element, perhaps the convenience of having it dropped out of the sky for you makes up for the much lower yield you'd get?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#91 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)

UNEP
http://www.unep.org/disastersandconflicts/Publications/DepletedUraniumPublications/tabid/54722/Default.aspx
and
http://www.unep.org/disastersandconflicts/CountryOperations/UNEPsPastActivities/DepletedUranium/tabid/54619/Default.aspx

dutch military FOIA request apparently wanted to know how much was in their area in iraq. initial response apparently was US studies of health effects of depleted uranium ... but eventually got a responses on positions for where 10k rounds were fired.
http://www.paxvoorvrede.nl/media/files/pax-rapport-iraq-final-lowres-spread.pdf

I was trying to determine number of 30mm depleted uranium rounds (out of estimate 300K to 6M, 10K rounds apparently only small fraction) and possibly effectiveness ... say compared to desert storm.

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BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion
Date: 02 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#53 BNP Near Settlement With U.S. for Up to $9 Billion

Exclusive: SEC official dissented on BNP Paribas waiver
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/02/us-bnp-paribas-waiver-exclusive-idUSKBN0F72DO20140702
Too Big To BNProsecute: How Yet Another Criminal Bank Got Away With Just A Slap On The Wrist
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-02/too-big-bnprosecute-how-yet-another-criminal-bank-got-away-just-slap-wrist

posts mentioning tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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How The Island Of Seychelles Became A Haven For Dirty Money

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: How The Island Of Seychelles Became A Haven For Dirty Money
Date: 02 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
How The Island Of Seychelles Became A Haven For Dirty Money
http://newsoncompliance.com/2014/06/how-the-island-of-seychelles-became-a-haven-for-dirty-money/

of the latest ICIJ series
http://www.icij.org/offshore

Sun and Shadows: How an Island Paradise Became a Haven for Dirty Money
http://www.icij.org/offshore/sun-and-shadows-how-island-paradise-became-haven-dirty-money

latest at ICIJ

Lobby groups 'see right through' US state's financial transparency attempt
http://www.icij.org/blog/2014/06/lobby-groups-see-right-through-us-states-financial-transparency-attempt

update from today: How users have spent the past year digging through offshore data
http://www.icij.org/blog/2014/06/how-users-have-spent-past-year-digging-through-offshore-data

Barclays made GBP1.4bn profits in Luxembourg - GBP100m for each worker; British bank's country snapshot reveals it paid just GBP20m in tax in Luxembourg in 2013, where it employed just 14 members of staff
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/30/barclays-bank-profits-luxembourg-14-staff

from above:
Barclays' chief executive, Antony Jenkins, pledged in February 2013 to close down the bank's tax avoidance unit, known as structured capital markets (SCM), as part of his efforts to clean up the reputation of the bank. However, he said the process would take several years.

... snip ...

Barclays closes controversial tax avoidance unit; Bank caves into criticism with move, but still risks anger by paying GBP2bn in bonuses to staff
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/feb/09/barclays-closes-tax-avoidance-unit

posts mentioning tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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'Synthetic' ID Theft Emerging As Fastest-Growing Type Of Consumer Fraud

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: 'Synthetic' ID Theft Emerging As Fastest-Growing Type Of Consumer Fraud
Date: 02 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
'Synthetic' ID Theft Emerging As Fastest-Growing Type Of Consumer Fraud
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/06/19/synthetic-id-theft-emerging-as-fastest-growing-type-of-consumer-fraud/

Twenty yrs ago there was speculation that it wasn't in the interests of the banking industry to strengthen payment transaction security. A big part of interchange fee charged merchants was based on the amount of fraud (which included a heavy profit component for the banking industry). Also, as long as payment transactions were the low-hanging fruit, the crooks were less likely to move to other forms of fraud ... like opening new accounts. The appearance of synthetic-IDs for opening new accounts 20yrs ago was especially of concern since they weren't associated with real people that could be made to take the blame. Also there was problem that financial institutions were under "know you customer" mandates, synthentic-IDs would force them to improve their "know you customer" provisions (and since "know you customer" is purely a financial institution operation, there was nobody else to blame and charge for the failings). This also somewhat gets into the area of where the too big to fail have been repeatedly found to be laundering money for drug cartels and terrorists.

posts mentioning identity theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#identity.theft
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That
Date: 02 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-30/laundering-illegal-money-theres-ultraluxury-new-york-real-estate
Stash Pad; The New York real-estate market is now the premier destination for wealthy foreigners with rubles, yuan, and dollars to hide.
http://nymag.com/news/features/foreigners-hiding-money-new-york-real-estate-2014-6/

posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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Friden Flexowriter equipment series

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 23:36:45 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
Depleted Uranium is used in armor-piercing shells. In Desert Storm the Iraqis had lots of tanks, but still 10K seems like a lot.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#91 Friden Flexowriter equipment series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#93 Friden Flexowriter equipment series

A10 30mm depleted uranium rounds were developed for tank killer assuming massive numbers of russian tanks coming into europe. As previous, A10 fired 1M 30mm deplete uranium rounds and 5K missiles during desert storm, destroying approx. 5k targets (1 missile/target & 200 rounds/target) during the air campaign (before the desert storm ground war), they were so successful killing tanks ... that iraqis started abandoning their tanks as sitting ducks (then the tanks destroyed during the ground campaign may not have had anybody home).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#68 A-10 Attack Jets Rack Up Air-to-Air Kills in Louisiana War Game

Burton (Pentagon Wars) loc6713-20 footnote from Fahd Squad Operation Desert Storm Combat Recap there is table of A10 confirmed ... tanks: 987, artillery 926, armored carriers 501, trucks 1,106, command vehicles 249, military structures 112, radars 96, helicopters (shot down) 2, bunkers 72, AAA 50, command posts 28, SCUD 51, FROG 11, SAMs 9, fuel tanks 8, fighter aircraft (on ground) 10

... snip ...

Burton talks about doing mini-A10 with 5-barrel ... large numbers that could be forward deployed ... but these days it might be a drone instead of having human onboard.

depleted uranium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
A10 7barrel, 3900 rounds/min & magazine of 1174 rounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger

30mm round, 680grams, 280grams depleted uranium; 1174 @680g is 798kg

A10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II

The A-10 was designed around the GAU-8 Avenger, a 30 mm rotary cannon that is the airplane's primary armament and the heaviest such automatic cannon mounted on an aircraft.

... and
In 1966, the USAF formed the Attack Experimental (A-X) program office.[9] On 6 March 1967, the Air Force released a request for information to 21 defense contractors for the A-X. The objective was to create a design study for a low-cost attack aircraft.[6] In 1969, the Secretary of the Air Force asked Pierre Sprey to write the detailed specifications for the proposed A-X project. However, his initial involvement was kept secret because of Sprey's earlier controversial involvement in the F-X project

... snip ..

Pierre Sprey was part of Boyd's fighter mafia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Sprey

issue for Iraqi 2003 invasion, Iraqi learned from desert storm to avoid presenting collection of hard targets vulnerable to US air power. for soft targets, close-air-support is more like .50cal (13mm) and smaller would be sufficient, leaving missiles for the relatively few hard targets. however, there are reports that so many .50cal rounds were used in the invasion that stock piles were running low ... they were resorting to ammo that had been warehoused from ww2.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1891550

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TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 5 Jul 2014 10:23:03 -0700
jwglists@GMAIL.COM (John Gilmore) writes:
I think that IBM long ago concluded that it could not do everything, and thus that the existence of other centers of development, the ISVs, was and is in its best interests.

The problem with the separate, individual consideration of the business cases for extension A, extension B, extension C, . . . is that there may be, often are important synergies among them. Their one-at-a-time evaluation is simplistic. De minimis is doubtless a good doctrine for appelate courts; in the IT industry it is a recipe for obsolescence and with it progressive irrelevance.

Worse, economic significance is only easy to evaluate in retrospect. (I am old enough to remember when there was vigorous argument within IBM about the merits, if any, of relational data base managers like DB2.)


back before OCO (object code only) enormous amounts of innovation and new stuff was done by customers and/or ibm support people onsite at customer accounts ... which then morphs into IBM products ... CICS, IMS, HASP, ASP, etc. The joke was that products were *developed* at customer sites and then turned over to development groups for maintenance and support. Only focusing on the next quarter basically orientates to static environment with little innovation or change.

some of the discord/argument between IMS group in STL and the System/R (original relation/sql) in bldg. 28 (a couple miles away) was that System/R doubled the disk space (for implicit indexes) and significantly increased disk i/o (processing the indexes). IMS directly exposed record pointers for use by application ... significantly improving machine efficiencies ... but significantly increasing administration & human management (for anything other than purely static environment).

Going into the 80s, disk space costs drastically came down (mitigating the index disk space costs) and processor memory significantly increased allowing for index caching, reducing index i/o. At the same time, general dataprocessing costs came down drastically ... significantly increasing uses ... w/o corresponding increase in expertise for detailed care and feading.

STL was focused on doing "EAGLE" followon for IMS ... allowing SJR to do System/R technology transfer to Endicott for release as SQL/DS. When EAGLE implodes, requests are made for how fast could System/R be ported to MVS ... where it is eventually released as DB2 ... originally for analytics and decision support *ONLY*.

misc. past posts mentioning System/R
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
misc. past posts mentioning hasp, jes, jes2 networking, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#hasp
msic. past posts mentioning cics, bdam
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics

note that 23Jun1969 unbundling announced included starting to charge for (application) software ... but managed to make the case that kernel/system software should still be free. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
then largely motivated by rise of clone controllers, Future System was started in the early 70s ... to completely replace 370 and be totally different ... a major objective was very tight integration of processors and controllers significantly raising the bar for clone controllers. some past posts mentioning clone controllers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm
some past future system posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

during the future system period 370 efforts were being suspended and/or killed off. The lack of 370 products during this period is credited with giving the clone processors market foothold.

after future system implodes there is mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipelines. the rise of the clone processors also contributes to changing the decision to start charging for kernel software followed by OCO (cutting of lots of customer based innovation).

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The SDS 92, its place in history?

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The SDS 92, its place in history?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 12:09:15 -0400
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> writes:
A lot of the stuff that trickled down into civilian was from military/aerospace, e.g. rtl, mrtl, dtl, ttl, ecl, cmos, etc.

over on linkedin ... somebody has waded in about the dumbing of america with new book about japanese STEM-oriented culture even supported by their literature (there is separate topic drift about large part of the population aren't completely ignorant of scientific fact ... but when belief and facts are in conflict, there is large group that will go with belief).

There was rise of STEM in the US in the 40s, 50s, 60s ... but then seemed to have been downward spiral since them ... even anti-scientific. the issue was how much of this was rise of US military science in 40s-60s and it leaking out into the rest of culture ... which lost its attractiveness ... possibly starting with impact of vietnam war.

the McNamara "whiz kids" weren't so much science ... but the rise of MBA along with body counts as simple measure of effectiveness (giving STEM a bad name, side argument something similar with fiddling waiting lists at VA).

Then there is military-industrial-complex embracing enormously large projects ... and even Success Of Failure culture ... where they can maximize earnings with a series of failed projects (compared to immediate success, requires a large amount of skill to have repeated failures, possibly even blaming on scientists as part of obfuscation and misdirection).
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

currently periodical articles about large percentage of components in military equipment and critical infrastructure come from countries that might be advisaries (because we no longer have our own) ... even rocket engines for our space launches come from overseas.

past posts mentioning Success Of Failure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#success.of.failure

misc. past posts mentioning STEM:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#0 America's Defense Meltdown
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#45 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#18 21st century India: welcome to the smartest city on the planet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#34 Congratulations, where was my invite?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#72 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#36 Having left IBM, seem to be reminded that IBM is not the same IBM I had joined
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#52 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#14 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#39 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#76 IBM Doing Some Restructuring?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#49 US payments system failing to meet the needs of the digital economy
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#44 Time to Think ... and to Listen
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#18 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#31 How do you feel about the fact that today India has more IBM employees than US?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#42 Simulated PDP-11 Blinkenlight front panel for SimH
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#32 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

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The SDS 92, its place in history?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The SDS 92, its place in history?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 12:13:12 -0400
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
One of the early machines - SDS940 maybe? - was very popular for early timesharing systems. I think, PARC snobs aside, that most people who used a SIgma loved it, the problem is that SDS/XDS couldn't get enough people to use it.

in first part of 70s, i got called into marketing situation with 370/145 with vm370/cms against sigma/7 ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002h.html#53 Bettman Archive in Trouble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#78 Newsgroup cliques?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#0 Newsgroup cliques?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#15 computer industry scenairo before the invention of the PC?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#11 Anyone remember Mohawk Data Science ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#21 Old XDS Sigma stuff

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How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 12:19:24 -0400
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
Then again, calling a RPG or any rifle with a bore larger than 0.50 inches a "weapon of mass destruction" is pretty stupid, too. "Destructive", yes, but falls short on the "mass" quality. Maybe that was so we could claim that Iraq _did_too_ possess WMDs.

courtesy of the US in the iran/iraq war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

from above:
President Ronald Reagan initiated a strategic opening to Iraq, signing National Security Study Directive (NSSD) 4-82 and selecting Donald Rumsfeld as his emissary to Hussein, whom he visited in December 1983 and March 1984.[13] According to U.S. ambassador Peter W. Galbraith, far from winning the conflict, "the Reagan administration was afraid Iraq might actually lose."[14]

... snip ...

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TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 6 Jul 2014 09:55:36 -0700
edgould1948@COMCAST.NET (Ed Gould) writes:
Lynn:

Good Point. I believe ISPF (formally SPF) was written at a customer site (MY faulty memory says it was PLAYTEX but I could be wrong). Another (less known was PCF) also I *THINK* SDSF was the same.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

folklore is that person responsible for much of TSO ... came out of MIT with some CTSS & MULTICS background. Of course, at the science center ... cp67/cms (later vm370/cms) had much more CTSS direct lineage/content. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

later starting in 1979 with the rise of huge number of vm/4300s ... in the early 80s, the company declared vm370/cms as the corporate strategic interactive product. The TSO product administrator then contacted me about porting my vm370 scheduler to MVS ... but I declined since to fix TSO for interactive computing would require significantly more than just fixing the MVS scheduler. old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#email800310

As an aside, I had originally done dynamic adaptive resource management back in the 60s as undergraduate ... and IBM picked up and shipped first with cp67/cms. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

note that mainstream IBM (especially POK) had hard time adapting to rules regarding charging for software (monthly lease had to cover costs) ... some of this possibly outgrowth of Brook's "Mythical Man Month".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

cp67/cms and later vm370/cms (before being moved out of mass) had significantly lower cost infrastructure. One of the first was eventually announcing JES2 networking as joint product with vm370 vnet (being able to do combined revenue to cover combined costs) ... this even when some of the original JES2 networking code had carried the letters "TUCC" out in cols 68-71 (carried over from HASP days).

the folklore is that then happened in the 80s with ISPF but even more creative bookkeeping. They combined ISPF and VM370 performance tools in the same "development" group ... even tho they weren't joint products. The had 200 people on ISPF group and stablized vm370 performance tools with just 3people so that the income of vm370 performance tools effectively underwrites ISPF.

The story for graphical netview is straight-out of "truth is stranger than fiction" ... past post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#61 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?

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The SDS 92, its place in history?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: The SDS 92, its place in history?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 13:55:52 -0400
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#100 The SDS 92, its place in history?

Metaphorical Circuit: Negotiations between Literature and Science in 20th Century Japan (Cornell East Asia, No. 119)
http://www.amazon.com/Metaphorical-Circuit-Negotiations-between-Literature/dp/1885445199/

thread from last year about belief trumps facts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#39 Words Are Thinking Tools: Praxotype
another thread from last year about belief trumps facts, this one has been getting quite a bit of play in the news last week or two
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#52 Steve B sees what investors think

and just today

When Beliefs and Facts Collide
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/upshot/when-beliefs-and-facts-collide.html
When Beliefs and Facts Collide
http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/07/06/1229251/when-beliefs-and-facts-collide
New NYT: When beliefs and facts collide
http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2014/07/new-nyt-when-beliefs-and-facts-collide.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BrendanNyhan+(Brendan+Nyhan)

... and Postmoderniscm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism

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TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 6 Jul 2014 15:54:50 -0700
0000000433f07816-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.UA.EDU (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
That might have made sense if CMS had full capability to LINK and ACCESS MVS volumes, and to FILEDEF data sets via catalog lookup, and to XEDIT PDS (later PDSE) members. Otherwise not.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

during the FS period:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

somebody in the (burlington mall) vm370/cms development group pretty much did all that support ... but it didn't ship.

then with the demise of FS, there was mad rush to get stuff back into the 370 product pipelines. it was at this time that the head of POK managed to convince corporate to kill the vm370/cms product and move all the people to pok to work on mvs/xa (or otherwise mvs/xa wouldn't ship on schedule some 6-7yrs later). Lots of stuff in burlington was lost in the shutdown ... including all the CMS support for native MVS volumes, and the person responsible (along with numerous others) managed to escape the move (lots going to DEC to work on vax/vms ... old joke that head of POK was one of the major contributors to vax/vms).

eventually endicott managed to save the vm370/cms product mission, but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch ... various stuff in vmshare archives about code quality during this period:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

endicott focus was then much more on vm370/cms compatibility with dos/vs (than mvs). you would find large numbers doing interactive work on vm370/cms and then shipping stuff (w/jcl) to mvs for execution (either mvs running under vm370 on the same machine or over the network between vnet and jes2 networking). inside ibm this was major mode of development ... i've mentioned before doing the channel-extender work for STL (now silicon valley lab) so the 300 people from the ims group moved to offsite bldg could have local channel attached vm370/cms interactive computing support back to stl datacenter. misc. posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

people use to horrible MVS/TSO human factors would have hardly noticed the issues with remote 3270 support (controller running at 19.2kbits/sec back to datacenter) ... but was major issue for people use to vm370/cms interactive computing with local channel attached 3270 controllers.

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TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 6 Jul 2014 16:21:01 -0700
lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
people use to horrible MVS/TSO human factors would have hardly noticed the issues with remote 3270 support (controller running at 19.2kbits/sec back to datacenter) ... but was major issue for people use to vm370/cms interactive computing with local channel attached 3270 controllers.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#105 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

in fact, the diehard interactive computing human factors people objected to the change from (channel attached) 3272/3277 to 3274/3278. late 70s and early 80s were era of ibm studies and reports about improved human productivity with interactive response better than .25sec .... mvs/tso system response was typically 1sec or worse ... and then you add hardware time to system response ... for response seen by the user.

3272 controller time was consistent .086sec ... to have quarter sec. response ... system response had to be .164secs or better (I was shipping and supporting internal vm370/cms systems with .11sec system response). 3274 controller hardware response varied but had minimum around .336sec (and typically 1/2sec or worse). some past refs mentioning 3272 & 3274 hardware measurements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#12 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#15 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#42 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#19 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#53 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#72 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#31 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#1 3270 response & channel throughput

complaints to 3274 product administrator eventually came back with response that 3274 was designed for data entry (computerized keypunch), not interactive computing.

past posts mentioning quarter second response studies:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#53 3270 Terminal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#84 Is there an SPF setting to turn CAPS ON like keyboard key?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#12 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#13 From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#15 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#2 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#19 Writing article on telework/telecommuting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#15 cp67, vm370, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#37 Why File transfer through TSO IND$FILE is slower than TCP/IP FTP ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#37 PDP-10 and Vax, was System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#1 3270 response & channel throughput
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#55 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#44 System Response

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CMS Editors was TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

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From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: CMS Editors was TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 7 Jul 2014 12:55:53 -0700
Chris_Webster@BMC.COM (Webster, Chris) writes:
I remember using full screen editors named EDGAR and FUSE prior to XEDIT. Don't remember which came first or their official IBM status.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#105 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#106 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?

There was EDGAR product ... then where were several internal editors with wide distribution. I was trying to get Endicott to release RED when they hit on XEDIT. At the time, RED was significantly faster, more function and much more mature than XEDIT ... but there was some amount of NIH. At one point Endicott said it was the RED authors fault that RED was significantly better than XEDIT ... and therefor it should be the RED author's responsibility to fix XEDIT. old email apologizing to the RED author for how bolixed up it became.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800311
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800312
some earlier comparison
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
another RED/XEDIT email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#email810531

this mentions including RED3.4 & XEDIT in my internal distribution of a vm370 release 6 (one of my hobbies was doing distribution and support of enhanced, production operating systems for internal datacenters)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800429
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800501

from melinda's history
Edgar (the "Display Editing System"), a program product full-screen editor written by Bob Carroll, also came out in 1976. Edgar was the first full-screen editor IBM made available to customers, although customers had previously written and distributed full-screen editors themselves, and Lynn Wheeler and Ed Hendricks had both written full-screen editors for 2250s under CMS-67.

... and
There can be no question that by releasing XEDIT in 1980, IBM gave CMS a new lease on life. Within no time, programmers and end users were building large, sophisticated applications based entirely on XEDIT, stretching it to its limits and doing things with it that IBM had never envisioned. That they were able to do that was a tribute to XEDIT's author, Xavier de Lamberterie.(130) (If you've ever wondered where the "X" in "XEDIT" came from, now you know--it was Xavier here.)

... snip ...

past posts mentioning RED/XEDIT:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#22 When did full-screen come to VM/370?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#39 20th anniversary of the internet (fwd)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#55 The very first text editor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#5 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#43 handling the SPAM on this group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#54 THE runs in DOS box?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#11 Information on obscure text editors wanted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#95 VM IS DEAD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#44 CMS load module format
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#102 Typeface (font) and city identity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#89 Real Programmers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#23 Three Reasons the Mainframe is in Trouble

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PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:25:19 -0400
EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> writes:
From what I have seen, VM was introduced on IBM with the 360/40 with custom hardware called the "Cambridge Address Translator" (CAT) plus microcode changes, with the OS being CP-40.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP-40


longer description (referenced in above)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt

they had originally planned on getting 360/50s ... but all the spare 360/50s were going to the FAA ATC effort ... and so they had to settle for 360/40.

360/40 was 256kbyte, 64 4k pages, special hardware for each page there was 4bit address space id plus virtual page number. cp40 morphed into cp67 when 360/67 became available. 360/67 had 8 entry associative array ... (table look aside buffer) ... all entries were invalidated/reset anytime address space changed.

370 virtual memory added a bunch of stuff ... including segment read-only protect ... bit in segment table entry that applied to all virtual pages in that segment. segment table per virtual address sapce ... with multiple virtual address spaces might have segment table entries pointing to same page table (shared segments). With the read/only bit in segment table entry ... some address spaces could have shared segment r/o ... while other address spaces could concurrently have the same shared segment r/w.

retrofitting virtual memory hardware to 370/165 ran into schedule delays ... to buy six months, they proposed dropping several features from 370 virtual memory ... including r/o segment protect ... which then required all other 370s (already had full 370 virtual memory implemented) to remove the dropped features.

370/168 had 128-entry, 4-way associative table look-aside buffer with 7 entry "sto stack" (aka address space). each tlb entry had 3bit sto-stack identifier. if switched to new address space that was not in sto-stack, it would steal a sto-stack entry and invalidate all TLB entries associated with that sto-stack identifier.

370 allowed for 2kbyte or 4kbyte virtual pages, 370/168-1 had 16kbyte cache with entries indexed using low-order 2k page displacement bits (i.e. index was same whether real or virtual and could be done in parallel with virtual->real lookup). 370/168-3 doubled cache size to 32kbyte and used the 2k bit as part of cache entry index. If running in 2k virtual page mode, it would only use half the cache (16kbytes). Anytime 370/168-3 switched between 2k & 4k virtual page mode .... all cache entries had to be cleared.

Melinda has other VM history details (about half-way down page) ... also referenced by the cp40 wiki:
http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/

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history of copy on write, was PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: history of copy on write, was PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:53:50 -0400
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> writes:
The unmodified 360/40 had storage key protection to enforce read only storage, no need to add that in the VM hardware. The 360/67's paging hardware didn't do read-only either.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#108 PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope

cp67 to do shared pages for cms virtual pages had to do r/o protection playing games with 360 storage protect keys. the problem was that there was no easy way for the virtual machine to use storage protect keys at the same time that cp67 was using storage protect keys for shared page r/o (it did hack running virtual machine psw in key f ... instead of key 0 ... and all virtual machine pages that were key 0 become key f ... so store instructions worked ... while shared pages were key 0, and virtual psw was never allowed key 0 ... so store would never work).

initially for 370 and the transition from cp67/cms to vm370/cms ... cms was reorged to take advantage of 370 r/o shared segment (for a single 64kbyte shared segment, 16 4kbyte pages). when 370/165 schedule problems resulted in dropping r/o shared segment ... vm370 had to revert to the cp67 storage key protect hack.

cp67 and vm370 ran virtual machine in problem state mode so all supervisor instructions resulted in program interrupt and were simulated. for 158 & 168, VMA, virtual machine microcode assist was developed which introduced special mode that some supervisor instructions would be handled directly by the machine according to virtual machine rules (which didn't include the storage protect key hack for LPSW, SSK, and ISK instructions).

Somebody then came up with code hack that ran cms w/o the storage protect key hack ... even when there were shared pages ... but it was possible to turn on VMA performance. The downside was on every virtual address space switch ... it was necessary to determine if any "shared" pages had been previously modified (by checking the change bits for the 16 shared pages) ... and if so, they could be discarded and refreshed with upmodified copy from disk. The check of 16 change bits on address space switch was less overhead than the performance improvement by running with VMA.

The problem was that they picked up a bunch of stuff that I had been doing that would significantly increase the number of shared pages ... minimum increase was to 32 shared pages ... and the checking of 32 shared pages on every address space switch was more overhead than the benefit gained from using VMA (virtual machine microcode assist).

Now VMA for 158 was free but it was a cost item for 168. Marketing had already told several vm370/cms intensive customers that the new vm release would support VMA for CMS operation ... and sold them 168 VMA hardware. They claimed IBM couldn't drop back to using the storage key hack (w/o VMA) because vm370/cms customers had already bought the VMA hardware feature (even if it was actually worse performance than better).

past posts mentioning storage key
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#57 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001c.html#30 PKI and Non-repudiation practicalities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#65 PKI/Digital signature doesn't work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#13 FlexEs and IVSK instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#18 Efficent Digital Signature Schemes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#15 IEFBR14 Problems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#4 REVIEW: "Biometrics for Network Security", Paul Reid
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#8 vm/370 smp support and shared segment protection hack
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#58 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#6 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#25 360POO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#18 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#9 Exceptions at basic block boundaries
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#17 Exceptions at basic block boundaries
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#18 Exceptions at basic block boundaries
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#27 How do you get the chain of certificates & public keys securely
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#29 Importing CA certificate to smartcard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#27 how do i encrypt outgoing email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#38 storage key question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#2 Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#19 HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#40 FULIST
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#13 VM maclib reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006i.html#9 Hadware Support for Protection Bits: what does it really mean?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#22 Virtual Virtualizers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#26 Mainframe Limericks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#36 REAL memory column in SDSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#43 REAL memory column in SDSF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#61 Is the teaching of non-reentrant HLASM coding practices ever defensible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#1 Is the teaching of non-reentrant HLASM coding practices ever
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#26 moving on
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#23 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#69 Operating systems are old and busted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#42 mainframe performance, was Is a RISC chip more expensive?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#62 Ransomware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#52 Computer History Museum
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#39 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#72 Subpools - specifically 241
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#47 C-I-C-S vs KICKS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#5 Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#96 History of copy on write
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#98 History of copy on write
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#2 History of copy on write
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#89 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#11 History of byte addressing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#60 Any candidates for best acronyms?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#29 which one came first
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#40 PDP-10 system calls, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#31 REFRPROT History Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#79 Still not convinced about the superiority of mainframe security vs distributed?

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IBM mainframes, was PDP-11 architecture

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From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM mainframes, was PDP-11 architecture
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 08:36:55 -0400
Emil Naepflein <netnewsegn@kabelmail.de> writes:
End of the 80s I ported System V Release 4.0 to the /370 compatible mainframes of Siemens. I used the valid bit and a software write protect bit in the page tables to support COW.

I don't remember all the details any more, but there may have been some code that analyzed the instruction that caused the page fault. If it was one that did a write access and the page was write protected, then it was a COW. But this may have been only on some models.

The port was fairly straight forward because of the new HAT layer in Sytem V R4 and a similar address translation architecture of i386 and /370. Only things like write protection on physical pages had to be covered in some way.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#108 PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#109 history of copy on write, was PDP-11 architecture, was There Is Still Hope

The IBM palo alto group was doing BSD port to 370 and I believe looking at not doing storage protect ... but checking whenever there was address space switch for altered page ... and then giving the running address space its COW ... and refreshing original from disk. Since storage protect interrupt was (then) precise ... they could have also fielded the interrupt, did the COW, and restarted the interrupted instruction (aka variation on the original cp67 & vm370 shared segment protect). The group was then directed to retarget the implementation to the PC/RT (risc romp) and came out as AOS (alternative to AIX) ... and the 370 version never shipped.

Note that in the "enhanced" version that allowed storage alteration, and then caught it at address space switch ... discarded the modified page and refreshed a non-modified version from disk ... the integrity was based on only a single execution running at a time. The original prototype was done when CMS only had 16 shared pages ... but was shipped in release when they had picked up some of the stuff I had been doing that greatly increased the number of shared pages.

However, this was the release just before the release that introduced of (shared memory) multiprocessor support. To support integrity and still allow the alteration of shared pages and fixed things up afterwards ... they had to go to unique copies of shared pages for each processor. Just before an address space was dispatched ... all the table entries had to be updated with shared segment pointers for the specific processor that the address space was going to execute on. Then it gets a lot more complex when virtual multiprocessor is supported that might run concurrently on multiple different real processors (all sharing same memory). It became a rapidly increasing slippery slope.

mid-80s, ibm mainframes introduced the page protect bit ... which was similar ... but different to the original 370 segment protect bit (for shared segment support) that was dropped as part of getting 370 virtual memory announce back on schedule (because of implementation problems on 370/165).

the original 370 mechanism allowed for a common shared (segment) page table (that had virtual->real page mapping) ... but the protect (or no protect) was on a per address space basis back in the (address space specific) segment tables.

note we actually did a hack on this for the original relational/sql implementation ... System/R done on vm370 370/145 in bldg.28. Each application address space had r/o access to shared data ... but the System/R command address space had concurrent r/w access to the shared data areas ("DWSS" ... dynamic read/write shared segment). some past posts mentioning original relational/sql implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

as an aside, the palo alto group was also working with UCLA's Locus unix work-alike ... which eventually came out as AIX/370 and AIX/386 (totally unrelated to AIX on RS/6000) ... the AIX/370 was later enhanced to AIX/ESA.

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Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry

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From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry
Date: 08 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
also Google+
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/LTRm69PWiSH

Maine Supreme Court Hands Major Defeat to MERS Mortgage Registry
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/maine-supreme-court-hands-major-defeat-mers-mortgage-registry.html

and

MERS Loses Major Case in Pennsylvania
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/mers-loses-major-case-in-pennsylvania.html
Chase's fraudulent foreclosure: Court finds for plaintiffs Bank committed fraud in order to show ownership
http://www.housingwire.com/articles/30540-chases-fraudulent-foreclosure-court-says-executive-falsified-documents

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L mess to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. In the late 90s, we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents (in securitized mortgages) as countermeasure. However, in the early part of the century, loan originators discovered that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A ratings on securitized mortgages (even when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from the Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that the rating agencies played in the economic mess). Triple-A rating then trumps supporting documents and loan originators could then do no-documentation (no-down, liar) loans.

About the same time we had been brought in to help wordsmith the cal. state electronic signature legislation. Then in the early part of the century we were invited to attend some industry standards meetings at the mortgage bankers association (when they still had the bldg. across the park from IMF and World Bank) looking at legal electronic documents.

However, from the law of unintended consequences:

(1) when there was still some fiction that TARP funds would be used to purchase toxic assets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.

.... there were articles about the difficulty of correctly valuing securitized mortgages when they were lacking supporting documents

(2) the lack of legal documents results in the fabricated, fraudulent document robo-signing scandal.

posts mentioning toxic CDOs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

recent MERS refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#44 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#28 Royal Pardon for credit unions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#70 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#46 Wells Fargo made up on-demand foreclosure papers plan: court filing charges

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In Banking World, Fraud Is an Epidemic

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: In Banking World, Fraud Is an Epidemic
Date: 08 July, 2014
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/graE4mQ2H35

In Banking World, Fraud Is an Epidemic
http://truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/24431-banks-systemic-corruption-and-governments-conflict-of-interest

from above:
In the early spring of 2010, my phone rang, and the caller ID read "Unknown." On the other end of the line was an AIG whistleblower. Until the 2008 financial crisis, AIG was a rogue elephant in the zoo of the US financial world, unknown to most Americans

... snip ...

posts mentioning whistleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblowers
posts mentioning Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
posts mentioning toxic CDOs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

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Follow the Money: How Finance Keeps the Whip Hand

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Follow the Money: How Finance Keeps the Whip Hand
Date: 08 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
also Google+
https://plus.google.com/102794881687002297268/posts/eAbBzsQ2YbH

Follow the Money: How Finance Keeps the Whip Hand
http://truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/24427-follow-the-money-how-finance-keeps-the-whip-hand

The Rise of the American Corporate Security State http://truth-out.org/news/item/23802-the-rise-of-the-american-corporate-security-state
The Rise of the American Corporate Security State: Six Reasons to Be Afraid
http://www.amazon.com/Rise-American-Corporate-Security-State-ebook/dp/B00GT486NO/

pg60/loc1044-50:
I then felt like I had to warn Citi executive management. I had to warn the board of directors about these risks that I knew existed. On November the 3rd, 2007, I sent an email to Mr. Robert Rubin, Mr. Dave Bushnell, the chief financial officer and the chief auditor of Citigroup. I outlined the business practices that I had witnessed and had attempted to address. I specifically warned Mr. Rubin about the extreme risks and unrecognized financial losses that existed within my business unit. I also requested an investigation. And I asked that this investigation be conducted by officers of the company outside of my business unit.

pg62/1082-83:
Further, the transcript of Bowen's closed-door interview with FCIC investigators was placed under seal in the National Archives and cannot be released until 2016. By that time, the federal statute of limitations for fraud will have run out

... snip ...

part of the issue was that they would have to sign (CITI's) public company financial filings (which weren't going to include the disclosures). The rhetoric during the vote for Sarbanes-Oxley was that board, executives, auditors were guaranteed to do jail-time signing financial statement that wasn't correct. Bowen's whistleblower to Rubin et all, should have raised the risk that they would be doing jail time. However SOX required that SEC do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't think that SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of fraudulent financial filings ... even showing an increase after Sarbanes-Oxley passes (and nobody doing jail time.

posts mentioning whistleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblowers
posts mentioning Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
posts mentioning toxic CDOs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

recent posts mentioning Rubin
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#98 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#0 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#8 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#24 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#2 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#9 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#21 Thomas Piketty Is Right About the Past and Wrong About the Future

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Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That

From: lynn@garlic.com
Subject: Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That
Date: 08 July, 2014
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#97 Laundering Illegal Money? There's Ultraluxury New York Real Estate For That

How New York Real Estate Became a Dumping Ground for the World's Dirty Money ... Shady magnates and corrupt politicians from all over the globe are stashing their ill-gotten wealth in luxurious Manhattan apartments.
http://www.thenation.com/article/180516/how-new-york-real-estate-became-dumping-ground-worlds-dirty-money

posts mentioning money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

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