List of Archived Posts

2015 Newsgroup Postings (04/30 - 05/25)

End of vacuum tubes in computers?
IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd
30 yr old email
"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
The US Equity Bubble Depends On Corporate Buybacks; Here's The Proof
Fast Track/TPP: The Death of National Sovereignty, State Sovereignty, Separation of Powers, and Democracy
30 yr old email
PROFS
7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
HONE Shutdown
Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
3033 & 3081 question
Blogger Ben's Basically Full Of It
SEC Commissioner Furious At Deutsche Bank's "Decade Of Lying, Cheating, And Stealing"
30 yr old email
Can we design machines to automate ethics?
Where to Flatten the Officer Corps
Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
Dot What?
Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet
Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet
Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
30 yr old email
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
Auditors as Whistleblowers
Remember 3277?
Tech Time Warp of the Week: The World's First Hard Drive, 1956
Remember 3277?
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Remember 3277?
Remember 3277?
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Remember 3277?
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Remember 3277?
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
email security re: hotmail.com
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Why Today's Automobile Industry Looks A Lot Like IBM in 1985
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
PCI DSS compliance for z/OS
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
30 yr old email
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
Public Confused Why World's Biggest Banks Admitting Criminal Fraud, Leads To Public Yawns
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
email security re: hotmail.com
Western Union envisioned internet functionality
email security re: hotmail.com
ACP/TPF

End of vacuum tubes in computers?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 10:55:52 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:

Followup: Further reading through Mr Muelstree's book (once I pick up a book I'm loath to put it down...) I see the Combined Ops WS46 radio, also 1941, had the same throat mic. There was a better picture in the book and the mic looks identical to the RAF ones I remember, undobtedly from the same manufacturer. Whether the RAF adopted an Army mic or vice versa is a question that would take further research.

(I've got a couple of Spitfire bits...the cockpit mounted morse key and a compass from a Mk9, all I need is the other bits!)




battle of britain ... summer & autumn of 1940
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain

the above also mentions an item covered in the talks about britain having access to 100octane aviation fuel ... providing more power.

one of the random items in the talk ... was that britain and germany lost approx. the same number of figher planes during the period ... but britain only lost one pilot for every five planes lost while germany lost nearly every pilot ... aka surviving german pilots were captured ... while some large number of british pilots walked to bus stop and caught the bus back.

also some german fighters only had about 10mins of fuel over britain ... and british tactic was delaying operations ... so germans wouldn't have enough fuel to get back.

posts mentioning "battle of britain" series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#14 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#63 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:41:22 -0700
hancock4 writes:

In my humble opinion, the single level store, as implemented on the AS/400, was not easy to use. (Perhaps I was prejudiced being used to MVS).



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#105 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#106 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#110 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

OS/360 and MVS had filesystem mapped to drive ... so had all the issues with managing large number of drives. single level store obfuscated all that treating all disk space as one large pool (but enormously complicating recovery from single drive failure).

MVS eventually gets SMS/DFSMS that automates a lot of the issues managing multiple disks
http://2000clicks.com/links/Computers/IBMMainframeHistory/mvshist5.htm

DFSMS/MVS announced in May 1992, integrates and expands the storage and program management functions previously available in MVS/DFP V3, DFHSM and DFDSS. A new feature, Removable Media Manager, was also added. DFSMSrmm allows tapes, both automated and manual libraries, to have the full automated management support provided by DFSMS.


... snip ...

system/38 single drive failure recovery issues were so bad that it becomes early RAID adopter (as way of masking single drive failures and elminating excessive downtime during recovery).

... past refs S/38 RAID refs:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#47 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#72 Remembering the CDC 6600
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#44 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#33 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#67 Interesting presentation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#84 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#7 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#14 IBM Future System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#14 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#91 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#71 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#15 Selectric Typewriter--50th Anniversary
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#29 Delay between idea and implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#33 DRAM is the new Bulk Core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#7 Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#68 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#76 assembler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#74 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#115 Mill Computing talk in Estonia on 12/10/2104

... past posts mentioning original RAID patent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#4 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#47 Do any architectures use instruction count instead of timer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#29 cheaper low quality drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#13 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#47 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#15 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#33 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#84 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#14 IBM Future System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#34 Happy 100th Birthday, IBM!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#29 Delay between idea and implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#80 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#33 DRAM is the new Bulk Core
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#7 Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#68 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#76 assembler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#79 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#73 IBM Programmer Aptitude Test
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#115 Mill Computing talk in Estonia on 12/10/2104

trivia ... while at SJR and got to play disk engineering over in bldg. 14&15, I had opportunity to work with the person that got the raid patent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 30 Apr 2015 17:08:57 -0700
Jerry.Whitteridge@SAFEWAY.COM (Jerry Whitteridge) writes:

I miss HONE !

Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Engineer Safeway Inc.




I was recently asked when HONE actually shutdown
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#93 HONE Shutdown

and found an email from may1998 saying it was going away

HONE (hands-on network environemnt), some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

had started out after the 23jun1969 unbundling announcement (starting to charge for application software, se services, etc), some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

with (virtual machine) CP67 (running on 360/67), to give branch SEs hands-on practice with operating systems. Previously SEs got sort of journeyman training as part of large group onsite in customer datacenter, after unbundling, nobody could figure out how not to charge customers for this SE time onsite at customer.

Science center very early did enhancements to CP67 that provided the simulation of the new 370 (before virtual memory instructions), so they could work with latest operating systems gen'ed for 370.

For CP67/CMS, the science center ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

had also ported apl\360 to CMS for cms\apl. HONE then started offering apl-based sales&marketing support tools ... which soon came to dominate all HONE activity and the virtual guest operating system use disappeared ... and HONE clone systems would start sprouting up all over the world

HONE eventually migrated to VM370 from the custom science center cp67/cms. This is old email from 40yrs ago today (30apr1975)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

where I've moved a bunch of enhancements from CP67 to VM370 and made it (csc/vm) available to internal datacenters ... including HONE ... which would run my enhanced custom operating systems for another decade (including after I moved to SJR and called in sjr/vm, I then started moving off doing mainframe work).

Not long after the above email, US HONE consolidated all its (US) datacenters in Palo Alto. By the end of the 70s, the US HONE datacenter was the largest single system image operation in the world ... several large (POK) multiprocessor mainframes operating in loosely-coupled operation with load balancing and workload fall-over (in case of failure ... effectively peer-coupled shared data architecture mentioned in this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#112 JES2 as primary with JES3 as a secondary
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

but was not released to customers. Then in the early 80s, the US HONE complex was replicated first in Dallas and then a 3rd in Boulder ... with load balancing and fallover ... countermeasure to disaster scenarios (like earthquake in california) ... also not released to customers.

for other drift, the previous post reference to IMS hot-standby ... had a fall-over operational problem. IMS configuration would be large CEC (one or more shared-memory processor) with fall-over hot-standby. IMS could immediately fall-over but VTAM sessions were enormous problem ... large systems could have 30,000-60,000 terminals ... which could take VTAM one or more hrs to get backup and running. We actually did some work with a 37x5/NCP emulator that spoofed mainframe VTAM that sessions were being managed cross-domain ... but was actually done by outboard non-VTAM processing ... which could manage replicated shadow sessions to the hot-standby machine ... so IMS hot-standby fall-over would be nearly immediately. However, this met enormous amount of resistence from the communication group (for lots of reasons, no communication group hardware and SNA RUs were carried over real network with lots of feature/function that couldn't be done in SNA).

This sort of issue then in internet server environment where operations are connectionless ... in theory doesn't require long-term session maintenance overhead .... server workload is propotional to the workload ... not to the number of "clients" ... much easier to have replicated servers, load balancing and workload fall-over.

The browser HTTP people did "mess" up ... they did use (session) TCP (instead of UDP) to implement a connectionless protocol ... it would go to all the overhead of setting up a session to do a connectionless operation and then immediately tear it down. Besides all the (unecessary) processing overhead (for TCP session setup/shutdown), TCP protocol (chatter) has a minimum of seven packet exchange. This was initially noted as webserver load started to scaleup. Industry standard TCP had what was called "FINWAIT" (to handle session dangling packets after session was closed) list ... and ran the list linearly looking if incoming packet was part of recently closed session ... aka expectation had been FINWAIT list was empty or a few entries. Increasing HTTP webserver workload started to have thousands of entries on the FINWAIT list ... and FINWAIT processing would consume 95% of webserver processor.

We had been brought in as consultants to small client/server startup (after leaving IBM) that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". "SSL" HTTPS is even worse than HTTP ... it is HTTP with a bunch of extra startup protocol chatter (over and above the encryption overhead). We had control over several parts of the implementation and deployment ... but not that.

In the 80s, I had worked on high-performance protocol that did reliable transaction in minimum 3-packet exchange (compared to seven for TCP). Part of the implementation was piggy-backing a bunch of option selection packaged with the initial packet (I was still at IBM and communication group complained that I worked on non-SNA stuff) some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp

Later, I proposed a high-performance, low-latency "SSL" that included all the HTTPS additional stuff also piggy-backed with the initial packet ... enabling HTTPS transaction in minimum 3-packet exchange. However, the people were enamored with TCP and lots of protocol chatter back&forth. However, the recent GOOGLE high-performance protocol now has some similarities (20yrs after the "fast" SSL-proposal, and nearly 30yrs after the 3-packet high-speed protocol work)
https://developers.google.com/speed/spdy/
and
http://www.infoq.com/news/2015/02/google-spdy-http2

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

30 yr old email

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 14:17:44 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email

Date: 05/01/85 16:59:34
From: wheeler

was in boulder on monday giving a hsdt pitch to ncar, went from there to toronto to SHARE and gave a pitch on CMS file system this afternoon. Currently in YKT ... will be in Hawthorne tomorrow morning but am scheduled to give HSDT talk in YKT aud. at 1pm tomorrow.



... snip ... top of post, old email index

HSDT was high-speed data transfer ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

we had been working with NSF & supercomputer centers (including ncar in boulder) on interconnecting the centers. originally we were suppose to get $20m ... but then congress cuts the budget and some other things happen befure NSF finally release an RFP (with most of the stuff that we had been doing in HSDT). However internal politics then prevents use from responding to the RFP. The director of NSF tries to help, including writing letter to company (with support from other agencies) ... but that just makes internal politics worse (especially from the communication group and SNA forces).

The supercomputer interconnect morphs into the NSFNET backbone with regional networks connecting to the nodes ... precursor to modern internet. other old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

The references to SHARE (ibm mainframe user group) presentation on CMS file system is related to the CMS page mapped filesystem that I had originally done on cp67 and mentioned in the 40yr old email (40yrs yesterday 30Apr1975)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

which i moved to vm370/cms and continued to support for internal distribution as csc/vm and later sjr/vm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#mmap

other old email about migrating from cp67 to vm370
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102

I would comment that when I did the paged-mapped support, I avoided all the things not to do that I observed in tss/360 as undergraduate in the 60s ... and were carried over into future system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

the bad rep given single level store would taint anything related to page-mapped filesystem and likely contributed to not releasing my paged mapped support ... even though much of the other stuff was released ... also mentioned in above post with 40yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8 Why these original FORTRAN quirks

other old email about SHARE pitch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#email850503

single-level-store discussed recently in s/38 thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#105 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#1 IBM System/32, System/34 implementation technology?

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
Date: 02 May 2015
Mailinglist: cryptography
we were brought in as consultants to a small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, the startup had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Early on we started calling them "comfort" certificates ... not because they provided security ... but they provided users with a sense of comfort.

Browsers were being paid by CAs to include their certificate ... so the CAs could sell certificates (paid for by merchants).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts

we were tangentially involved in the cal. state breach notification legislation having been brought in to help word smith the electronic signature act.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature

lots of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues and had done detailed, indepth public surveys. The #1 issue was "identify theft", primarily the form of fraudulent financial transactions as a result of breaches ... about which there was little or nothing being done; it was hoped that the publicity from the breach notification would prompt corrective action. The issue is that normally security efforts are taken in self-protection, in breach scenario, the institutions aren't at risk, it is there customers.

In the congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the ratings agencies played in the economic mess ... it was pointed out that their business model was misaligned (and the rating agencies were motivated to do the wrong thing ... and regulation where business model is misaligned is enormously more difficult). The buyers benefit from the ratings ... but the sellers were the ones paying the rating agencies.

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but had limited market. In the late 90s we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as a countermeasure.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm

In the early part of the century, the sellers found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A trumps documents and they could now do no-down, no-documentation lair loans, pay for triple-A and sell to customers ... including large institutional funds restricted to dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, claims caused 30% or more loss in pension funds contributing to trillions in pension shortfall). As a result over $27T was done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

From the law of unintended consequences ... the lack of documentation leads to the TBTF having to form the large robo-signing mills to fabricate the (missing) documents.

If that wasn't enough, they then started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail ... creating enormous demand for dodgy loans.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: 7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
Date: 02 May 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102637201

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (but had limited market). In the late 90s, we had been asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as a countermeasure.

However, the institutions found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional hearings). Triple-A ratings trump documentation and they could start doing no-documentation, no-down, liar loans; with no documentation, there is no longer any problem with documentation integrity). The triple-A ratings opened up the market to funds that are restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, estimates that they lost avg. 30% of value in this period, and accounts for claims they are currently trillions of dollars under funded). Triple-A ratings largely responsible for doing over $27T during the period:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

Not satisfied with straight looting with the securitized mortgages, they started doing securitized designed to fail, paying for triple-A ratings, selling to their customers, and then taking out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (enormously increasing the demand for dodgy loans).

And from the law of unintended consequences the lack of documentation results in the TBTF having to set up large robo-signing mills to fabricate the documents needed for foreclosures.

The S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1000 criminal convictions, the recent economic mess was 70 times larger and no criminal referrals or convictions.

rhetoric in congress was that sarbanes-oxley would prevent future ENRONs, guaranteeing that executives & auditors would do jail time for fraudulent financial filings. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of fraudulent financial filings, even show an increase after SOX (and nobody doing jail time). Periodically there are references that statute of limitations has expired on some of the fraud ... that criminal convictions could still be obtained under SOX.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Financial reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

The US Equity Bubble Depends On Corporate Buybacks; Here's The Proof

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject:  The US Equity Bubble Depends On Corporate Buybacks; Here's The Proof
Date: 02 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/iqtReGjRdfa

The US Equity Bubble Depends On Corporate Buybacks; Here's The Proof
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-02/us-equity-bubble-depends-corporate-buybacks-heres-proof

recent posts mentioning buybacks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#36 IBM CEO Rometty gets bonus despite company's woes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#51 bloomberg article on ASG and Chpater 11
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#54 National Security and Double Government
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#58 Neocons Guided Petraeus on Afghan War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#80 Moody's Has a Cow, Slams GE's Masterful Financial Engineering

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Fast Track/TPP: The Death of National Sovereignty, State Sovereignty, Separation of Powers, and Democracy

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Fast Track/TPP: The Death of National Sovereignty, State Sovereignty, Separation of Powers, and Democracy
Date: 02 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/d1kNgP17ZpN

Fast Track/TPP: The Death of National Sovereignty, State Sovereignty, Separation of Powers, and Democracy
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/05/fast-tracktpp-death-national-sovereignty-state-sovereignty-separation-powers-democracy.html

recent posts mentioning TPP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#37 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamationmade30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#39 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#41 more tpp
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#43 more tpp
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#51 more tpp
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#88 Microsoft, IBM lobbying seen killing key anti-patent troll proposal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#76 Crowdsourcing Diplomacy

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

30 yr old email

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 09:38:05 -0700
names obfuscated to protect the innocent

Date: 3 May 1985, 10:46:56 EDT
To: wheeler

Lynn,

I work for xxxxx and am involved with the software for the A74/370 workstation. xxxxx sent me a copy of a note you sent her concerning the paging support for CP/370 on the A74. I'll fill you in on what has been happening.

xxxxx has committed to give a demonstration of the workstation to DSD executives on June 3. We talked to xxxxx about a month ago and he committed (presumably with your help for paging) to do the modifications for CP/370 to support the demo. xxxxx's people are working with xxxxx to do CP/88. We are doing PC/GA support and are debugging the hardware. All this is to come together on May 20 here in Poughkeepsie for testing. Because of the tight schedule, the hardware will not be ready until then and only two boxes will be available. In short, we will not have a box to send to San Jose before the software is needed.

DAT on the A74 is a full 370 implementation complete with control regs and segment tables for 16M virtual storage. For more details, you can contact xxxxx. I can supply more details about the software. Basically we will only need a single user local CMS session for the demo.

Now the big question. Does this look like it is possible to do in time for the demo? We will, of course, provide all the support we can. I haven't talked to xxxxx since last week, so I don't know where he stands (he is somewhere on the West Coast this week). I'll contact him as soon as I can and ask him to get in touch with you.

Thanks,



... snip ... top of post, old email index

CP/88 was the program developed for xt/at 370 ... that accepted requests from modified vm370 to handle (disk, keyboard, screen, etc) i/o (on the PC side)

old email mentioning a74 announce
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email880622

past post mentioning software changes for a74:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#56 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions

past posts in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#3 30 yr old email

other past posts mentioning a74
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#55 Why not an IBM zSeries workstation?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#19 Very CISC Instuctions (Was: why the machine word size ...)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001i.html#51 DARPA was: Short Watson Biography
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002d.html#4 IBM Mainframe at home
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#27 End of Moore's law and how it can influence job market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#40 IBM system 370
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#15 IEFBR14 Problems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#7 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#8 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#10 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#14 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#76 The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#41 z/VM usability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#38 "True" story of the birth of the IBM PC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#2 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#15 Processes' memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#36 Processes' memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#8 What was the historical price of a P/390?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#21 Mainframe Hall of Fame (MHOF)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#6 Other early NSFNET backbone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#27 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not happened
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#64 JCL CROSS-REFERENCE Utilities (OT for Paul, Rick, and Shmuel)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#77 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#8 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series Halt & Catch Fire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#18 "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#30 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#31 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#8 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#26 Warnings for the U.S. military about innovation and the information age: The Pentagon looks like a minicomputer firm
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#33 Warnings for the U.S. military about innovation and the information age: The Pentagon looks like a minicomputer firm

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

PROFS

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: PROFS
Date: 03 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
For the email client, PROFS picked up the source for a very early version of VMSG ... when the VMSG author offered them an enhanced version, they tried to get him fired (having taken credit for all the code). The whole thing quieted down after it was shown that every PROFS email in the world carried the VMSG author's initials in a non-displayed field. After that, he only distributed VMSG source to two other people. some old email mentioning VMSG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmsg

One of the other PROFS tales was after rumor that some top executives might be using email ... lots of middle management preempted annual internal 3270 terminal deliveries diverted to their desks. Those 3270s were notorious for not being used for other than logging on and bringing up the PROFS menu ... sitting there all day image burning into the screen (admin assistant would be handlling actual email). This was back in the days where it required a VP signoff to order 3270 terminal (we did a business case showing 3yr capital cost for 3270 terminal was less than business phone that was put on desks as matter of course).

other trivia, TYMSHARE provided their (CMS-based) online computer conferencing system for free to SHARE (ibm mainframe user group) starting in AUG1976 ... archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

some old email about providing vmshare files inside IBM (biggest battle was with lawyers that were concerned customer information would contaminate IBM employess)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

Note internal SPM (superset of SMSG&IUCV combined) was originally done for CP67 by the Pisa Scientific Center. This is old email reference to porting to VM370 and being used internally
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750403
in this old post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#8

the REXX author had done a multi-user spacewar game using SPM ... which worked both with users logged on to the same machine as well as running across the internal network. One of the early spacewar issues was people writing BOT players that could beat human players.

old (long-winded) post including discussion of the rise of SMSG and IUCV instead of shipping the SPM superset
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#38

I got a 2741 (selectric computer terminal) at home for online access in Mar1970 ... I had it for 7yrs when it was replaced with a 300baud ascii terminal ... I still have 2741 "APL" typeball ... picture here:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts

I ordered PC1 from employee plan when it was originally made available. However, the delivery time for employee orders was so long that by the time I got it ... the street price had dropped to less than the original employee price (picture also at above URL)

late 70s & early 80s, I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet until sometime middle 80s). Folklore is that when the executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. From IBMJARGON:

Tandem Memos - n. Something constructive but hard to control; a fresh of breath air (sic). That's another Tandem Memos. A phrase to worry middle management. It refers to the computer-based conference (widely distributed in 1981) in which many technical personnel expressed dissatisfaction with the tools available to them at that time, and also constructively criticised the way products were are developed. The memos are required reading for anyone with a serious interest in quality products. If you have not seen the memos, try reading the November 1981 Datamation summary.


...

one of the result of the taskforce(s) to investigate the phenomena was setting up officially sanctioned (moderated) conferences.

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc

past posts mentioning multi-user spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#10 5-player Spacewar?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#8 VM: checking some myths.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001j.html#26 Help needed on conversion from VM to OS390
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#72 OT: One for the historians - 360/91
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#34 Playing games in mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#20 Whatever happened to IBM's VM PC software?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#12 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#4 Fast action games on System/360+?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#22 Was CMS multi-tasking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#74 Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#0 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#33 Was VM ever used as an exokernel?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#45 My first mainframe experience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#56 VAXen on the Internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#66 Wasn't instant messaging on IBM's VM/CMS in the early 1980s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#24 Inventor of e-mail honored by Smithsonian
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#38 Invention of Email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#64 Typeface (font) and city identity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#7 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#68 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#77 Spacewar! on S/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#38 1969 networked word processor "Astrotype"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#48 Before the Internet: The golden age of online service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#93 Costs of core

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: 7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
Date: 04 May 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#5 7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties

president of AMEX is in competition to be the next CEO and wins; the looser leaves taking his protegee and goes to Baltimore, taking over what has been described as loan sharking business. They make some other acquisitions, eventually taking over Citibank in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall (enabling too big to fail and too big to jail). The protegee then leaves and becomes head of one of the other too big to fail. Since then there have been lots of cases of LIBOR manipulation, commodity manipulation, money laundering for terrorists and drug cartels, etc ... and nobody doing jailtime.

Jan2009 (ten years after being asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages), I was asked to HTMLize the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into crash of '29, resulting in criminal convictions and Glass-Steagall) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (references to new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call saying it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill and other agencies).

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
LIBOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
Date: 04 May 2015
Mailinglist: cryptography
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#4 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

Certification authorities tend to certify the information from authoritative agencies responsible for the information ... in the case of domain name ownership ... it is the domain name agencies. Domain Name Certification Authorities have had a catch-22 ... proposing various public key and digital signature changes to domain name registration for improving the trust and integrity in the information they are certifying (and countermeasure to various domain name registration exploits like domain name take-over). The registration of a public key at the same time as domain name registration ... then requires that all future communication arriving at the domain name authority is digitally signed ... and can be authenticated with the on-file public key (for that domain name).

The issue then for the CAs is they can require that an application for domain name digital certificate can also be required to be digitally signed ... and they can replace an error prone, complicated, and costly identification process with a much simpler, straight-forward and less expensive authentication process ... by retrieving the onfile public key for verification of the digital signature.

The result is not only improving the trust and integrity with the domain name registration ... but also improves the domain name CA process.

The catch-22 is that if the CA business can do real time retrievals of on-file public key for authentication ... then possibly others might also ... reducing the need for domain name digital certificates.

ssl certs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts
CA ssl domain catch22
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#catch22

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

HONE Shutdown

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: HONE Shutdown
Date: 04 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#93 HONE Shutdown

thread in ibm-main mailing list concerning IBM "Knowledge Center" outage ... where somebody mentions "missing" HONE
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/22aodjmTeaM

with my long-winded HONE-related post ... also archived here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#2 Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd

past postings mentioning HONE (&/or APL)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

includes reference to 40yr old (30apr1975) email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

I was recently asked when HONE actually shutdown
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#93 HONE Shutdown

and then thread today in a.f.c. newsgroup also mentioning 30yr old (1may1985) email
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.folklore.computers/K1MStfdDqN8

most recent also archived here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#3 30 yr old email

...

psuedo devices were created for PVM (passthru virtual machine) so that terminal emulation could be done over internal network and log on to remote machines (terminal emulation at the remote node simulated back to local terminal). Internally there was then various "gateways" to operations like RETAIN to allow terminal logon over the internal network.

The author of VMSG ... in the late 70s did CMS applications with a HLLAPI-like language (before IBM/PC; PARASITE & STORY) that allowed writing terminal emulation applications. Old post with PARASITE/STORY description and examples
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#35

and example of terminal emulation (STORY) to automatically logon to RETAIN and retrieve PUT Bucket
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#36

posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
Date: 04 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://news.yahoo.com/fully-restored-wwii-fighter-plane-auction-131854819.html

semi-related ... 9may at paine field
http://historicflight.org/hf/
and
http://historicflight.org/hf/collection/spitfire/

A month ago, all 8 (kindle) books were made available for free for a day
http://www.amazon.com/Winston-S-Churchill-1939-1941-Biography-ebook/dp/B00VQJHKA2/

I've managed to complete 1st five books, and just finished chapter where Churchill becomes prime minister late on 10may1940 ... paine field toast at 4pm on the 9th will be the 10th in London.

The European Campaign: Its Origins and Conduct
https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/display.cfm?pubID=1075

talks about US army air corp focus on strategic bombing being able to make the big difference in the war. It mentions the (myopic) focus on building strategic long range heavy bombers and they effectively assumed that they would face no opposition in german air space ... not bothering to build any long range fighters, basically ignoring the experience from "battle of britain" when the british were able to mount defense. In 1943 strategic bombing of Germany, they basically had to relearn the lesson of the "battle of britain" for themselves before they would start building long range fighters for escort/defense.

also from the law of unintended consequences ... regarding John Foster Dulles being major force in rebuilding Germany economy & military industry ... the 1943 AAC strategic bombing was (also) faced with identifying targets ... AAC eventually acquired a large trove of documents that were in NYC giving location and detailed plans of german industry and military targets

The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War,
http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Allen-Secret-ebook/dp/B00BY5QX1K/

loc865-68:
In mid-1931 a consortium of American banks, eager to safeguard their investments in Germany, persuaded the German government to accept a loan of nearly $500 million to prevent default. Foster was their agent. His ties to the German government tightened after Hitler took power at the beginning of 1933 and appointed Foster's old friend Hjalmar Schacht as minister of economics.

loc873-79:
Sullivan & Cromwell floated the first American bonds issued by the giant German steelmaker and arms manufacturer Krupp A.G., extended I.G. Farben's global reach, and fought successfully to block Canada's effort to restrict the export of steel to German arms makers.

loc905-7:
Foster was stunned by his brother's suggestion that Sullivan & Cromwell quit Germany. Many of his clients with interests there, including not just banks but corporations like Standard Oil and General Electric, wished Sullivan & Cromwell to remain active regardless of political conditions.

loc938-40:
At least one other senior partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, Eustace Seligman, was equally disturbed. In October 1939, six weeks after the Nazi invasion of Poland, he took the extraordinary step of sending Foster a formal memorandum disavowing what his old friend was saying about Nazism

... snip ...

on the other hand, in Oct1944, Roosevelt commissioned the Strategic Bomber Survey (USSBS), in part because long range strategic heavy bombers accounted for 1/3rd of ww2 spending ... which found that strategic bombing contributed little to the war effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_survey

Veteran Still Battling for WWII Bomber Hot Stuff Recognition
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/05/05/veteran-still-battling-for-wwii-bomber-hot-stuff-recognition.html

from above:

When Jim Lux latches onto a cause it's for keeps. The Lost Creek resident, Air Force veteran and retired IBM marketing rep has been working for years to get the World War II heavy bomber Hot Stuff -- not the Memphis Belle, as is commonly assumed -- recognized as the first such aircraft to successfully complete 25 missions during the war.

... snip ...

more, unintended consequences, not only strategic bombing contributing little to total war effort, but didn't work for tactical bombing, "The European Campaign: Its Origins and Conduct" loc2574-77:
Two problems contributed to this ineffectiveness: First, the aircraft used by the American 8th Air Force were designed for strategic campaigns like the CBO and were built to operate effectively at high altitudes. The famed B-17 had a service ceiling of 35,800 feet, and the B-24 could operate at 28,000 feet. Despite all claims of that time and since the war, at that height even the fabled Norden bomb-sight was incapable in delivering precision bomb loads.

and then using strategic heavy bombers for low-level tatical battlefield bombing loc2582-85:
The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level altitude sights.54

... snip ...

note that given the failure of strategic bombing ... they appeared to switch to napalm'ing cities ... much larger targets and harder to miss (some of this comes back in Desert Storm where there are refs that precision bombing results in taking out target using only 1% of the bombs needed in WW2)

American Reckoning: The Vietnam War and Our National Identity
http://www.amazon.com/American-Reckoning-Vietnam-National-Identity-ebook/dp/B00LFZ87LS/

loc1115-18:
In the final year of World War II, however, the United States carried out the most devastating air attacks in history--the firebombing of a handful of cities in Germany and sixty-seven in Japan, all of it followed by the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Robert McNamara, an aide to General Curtis LeMay, helped plan and analyze the firebombing.

loc1118-20:
In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, McNamara recalled the firebombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945: "In that single night, we burned to death a hundred thousand Japanese civilians in Tokyo--men, women, and children." After the war, General LeMay said to McNamara: "If we'd lost the war we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals."

... snip ...

Note, after WW2, McNamara leaves the military and goes to Ford Motor, later in the 60s, he comes back as SECDEF. There is also web page about Laos was the most bombed place in the world ... showing time-lapsed about bombs dropped over the years.

recent posts references European Campaign &/or Dulles:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#70 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#84 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#85 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#45 The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#60 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#64 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

3033 & 3081 question

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: 3033 & 3081 question
Date: 05 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
During the Future System period (which was completely different than 370 and was going to completely replace it), 370 efforts were being shutdown (lack of 370 products during this period was credited with giving clone processor makers market foothold). When FS imploded there was made rush to get products back into the 370 product pipelines and 303x & 3081 efforts were kicked off in parallel.

3033 started out mapping 168-3 logic to some warmed over FS chips that were 20% faster ... some tuning then got 3033 up to 1.5 times 168-3. For the 303x channel director they took the 158-3 integrated channels, aka it was 158-3 engine with the integrated channel microcode and w/o the 370 microcode. A 3032 was 168-3 with new covers and 303x channel directors for external channels. A 3031 was 158-3 engine with 370 microcode and w/o the integrated channel microcode and 2nd 158-3 engine with the integrated channel microcode and w/o the 370 microcode.

3081 was going to be multiprocessor only using other warmed over FS technology ... lots more detail here
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

However ACP/TPF didn't have multiprocessor support and there was concern that the whole TPF market would move to clone vendors that were offering newer uniprocessor machines ... and so they eventually came out with 3083 ... which was 3081 with one of the processor removed. One of the issues was that the simplest was to keep 3081proc0 and remove 3081proc1 ... however 3081proc1 was in the middle of the box ... and simply removing it would have made the box dangersously top-heavy. Eventually they do some rewiring moving proc0 to the middle of the box (leaving the top of the box empty).

past FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

I was involved in a 16-way 370 SMP effort and we con'ed the 3033 processor engineers into working on it in their spare time (a lot more interesting than mapping 168-3 logic to faster chips). At first the company thought it was really great until somebody told the head of POK that it might be decades before the POK favorite son batch operating system would have (effective) 16-way support. Then some of us were invited to never visit POK again ... and the 3033 processor engineers were instructed to stop being distracted. recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#46 Connecting memory to 370/145 with only 36 bits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#30 IBM Z13

Trivia: with the 3033 out-the-door, they start work on 3090 ... overlapped with the 3081 activity.

Note before coming out with 3083 ... they do some horrible unatural things to VM/SP to improve TPF running in virtual machine on 3081. The unnatural acts slightly improve TPF throughput in that environment ... but it results in 10-15% throughput degradation for nearly all other VM/SP customers (running multiprocessor configurations). recent 3083 post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#107 crash, restart, and all that, was Your earliest dream?

Note memo125 references the Clemson webpages on acs360 ... if you follow it to the end of acs360 it has amdahl quitting after IBM management kills acs360 because it would advance state-of-the-art too fast and they might loose control of the market ... it also has some acs360 features that don't show up until over 20yrs later in es9000
http://people.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_end.html

No, with the 23jun1969 unbundling announcement ... it included having to start charging for software ... but they managed to make the case that kernel software should still be free.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

With Future System and the rise of clone processor vendors ... and the aftermath of FS imploding ... not only was their a mad rush to get products back into the 370 pipeline ... but also a decision to transition to start charging for kernel software. The existing software still remained free ... but newer software was packaged so it could be charged for separately ... until they made transition to charging for all kernel software. Next step in the 80s were the OCO-wars. recent posts mentioning OCO-wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#84 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#19 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?

Trivia: during FS I continued to work on 360/370 and even periodically ridicule FS (which wasn't exactly career enhancing activity; in the 90s at executive interview when I was leaving, I was told that "they could forgive you for being wrong ... but they were never going to forgive you for being right"). A bunch of my 370 stuff was then picked for inclusion in the (free) vm370 release 3 ... but a bunch of other stuff was selected to be in resource manager and guinea pig for starting to charge for kernel software (and I got to spend some amount of time with lawyers and business people about kernel software charging policies).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

Other trivia, I gave several presentations at BAYBUNCH user group meetings on implementation of the ECPS microcode assists. After BAYBUNCH drinking, the guys working on (unannounced) hypervisor would ask me a lot of implementation questions. Old ECPS reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#21 370 ECPS VM microcode assist
old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email800319
in this post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#22

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Blogger Ben's Basically Full Of It

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Blogger Ben's Basically Full Of It
Date: 05 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/aE5HS75mjZb

Blogger Ben's Basically Full Of It
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/blogger-bens-basically-full-of-it/

Geithner, Bernanke have little in arsenal to fight new crisis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/geithner-bernanke-have-little-in-arsenal-to-fight-new-crisis/2011/08/12/gIQAFuFvFJ_story.html

and

WSJ Slams Bernanke's Rambling Blog Post: "Stop Blaming Everyone" For Your Mistakes
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-03/wsj-slams-bernankes-rambling-blog-post-stop-blaming-everyone-your-mistakes

Note: Bernanke at one point says that he had expected that providing trillions in nearly free money to the too big to fail, they would then turn around and lend to mainstreet ... but they didn't and he had no way to force them to. However, supposedly Bernanke was selected because he was a Great Depression scholar where the FEDs did almost the same thing with exactly the same results (so there should have been no expectation that the too big to fail would behave in any other way)

posts mentioning fed chairmens
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman
posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

SEC Commissioner Furious At Deutsche Bank's "Decade Of Lying, Cheating, And Stealing"

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: SEC Commissioner Furious At Deutsche Bank's "Decade Of Lying, Cheating, And Stealing"
Date: 05 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/4BQHYujjkoH

SEC Commissioner Furious At Deutsche Bank's "Decade Of Lying, Cheating, And Stealing"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-05/sec-commissioner-furious-deutsche-banks-decade-lying-cheating-and-stealing

from above:

Even the SEC is shocked that the CFTC is an organization that caters exclusively to keeping criminal bankers out of prison, rather than getting them in it


...

Don't worry: former CFTC chief Gary Gensler will soon be US Treasury Secretary - then it will be his job to make sure no criminal with a net worth over a few million dollars ever has to face the US "judicial" system.



posts mentioning too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

30 yr old email

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 09:25:36 -0700
from long ago and far away ....

Date: 05/06/85 07:43:44
From: wheeler

re: vmshare/pcshare; on the monthly tape that tymshare mailed towards the end of feb.. they forgot to include the pcshare info and it was also the last tape in the library. Apparently because of staff turn-over, I didn't get notified of that fact. When the March tape hadn't arrived by April, I started investigating and discovered the supply of tapes had run out. I put together 15 tapes and had them mailed to Tymshare several weeks ago, they should have arrived by now unless they've gotten lost in some IBM mail room.



... snip ... top of post, old email index

vmshare was cms-based online computer conferencing that Tymshare started offerring for free to SHARE in Aug1976 ... archives
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

I would get monthly copies of vmshare (and later pcshare) files and make them available on internal machines and over the internal network. One of the biggest roadblocks was lawyers worried that customer information would contaminate IBM employees.

other old email mentioning vmshare
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare

posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#3 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#8 30 yr old email

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Can we design machines to automate ethics?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Can we design machines to automate ethics?
Date: 06 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Can we design machines to automate ethics?
http://aeon.co/magazine/technology/can-we-design-systems-to-automate-ethics/

there is analogous discussion going on in crypto mailing list regarding what is wrong with the current SSL/TLS Certificate Authority infrastructure ... that being the business process is misaligned and are incented to do the wrong thing.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#4 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#11 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

disclaimer: long ago and far away we were brought in as consultants to a small cient/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server; they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now called "electronic commerce". Part of what we were suppose to do involved analysis of the business processes and security risks and make recommendations as to implementation and deployment. Almost immediately 1) several of the recommendations were ignored (that contribute to exploits that continue to this day) and 2) we started referring to the SSL digital certificates as "comfort certificates" ... to try and differentiate that they provided comfort to the public (as opposed to security). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts

Related is the misaligned business interests of the rating agencies and incentive to do the wrong thing. Securitized mortgages had been used to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages during the S&L crisis but they had limited market. In the late 90s we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as countermeasure. However the start of the century, they found that they could pay rating agencies for triple-A rating. Triple-A rating trumps documentation and they found they could do no-documentation, no-down, liar loans, pay for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) and sell to their customers. The triple-A rating opens the markets to funds that are restricted to only dealing in safe investments (like large pension funds and some claims that it contributes to 30% decline in those funds and trillions shortfall) and major factor in doing over $27T between 2001 and 2008:
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

In Oct2008 congressional hearings into the pivotal role that the rating agencies played in the mess, there was testimony that the rating agencies business process had become misaligned in the early 70s ... the ratings are supposedly for the benefit of the buyers for level of trust in the instruments ... but the rating agency interested started changing to be aligned with the sellers (not the buyers) .. culminating in the economic disaster last decade. There was also testimony that it becomes enormously more difficult to regulate an industry with misaligned processes (and are incented to do the wrong thing) ... assuming there is even any interest in regulating.

If that wasn't enough, they started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, buying triple-A ratings, selling to their customers and then taking out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for dodgy loans).

And then from the law of unintended consequences ... the no-documentation loans lead to the too big to fail setting up the large robo-signing mills to fabricate the missing documents.

too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Where to Flatten the Officer Corps

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Where to Flatten the Officer Corps
Date: 06 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Where to Flatten the Officer Corps
http://www.dnipogo.org/vandergriff/rha/sld089.htm

In briefings Boyd would touch on the subject when he would talk about the US military needed 11% officers at entry to WW2 (growing to 20%) to maintain rigid top-down command and control. He would contrast that with Germany's 3% officers and professional trust ... highlighting Guderian's verbal orders only during the blitzkrieg.

He would claim that US corporate culture then was being contaminated with former military officers climbing corporate ladder ... (and increasing bureaucracies).

posts (& URLs) referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

About the time I first sponsored Boyd's briefings at IBM, we had our own example. IBM had 14 levels of management for approx. 450,000 employees at the time. IBM did a joint subsidiary (with comsat and aetna) that had 2,000 employees that was populated with lots of former IBMers ... and they recreated 14 levels of management (half the subsidiary was directors and above ... parts of organizations nearly vertical)

from earlier (by Chairman)

Management Briefing
Number 1-72: January 18,1972
ZZ04-1312

TO ALL IBM MANAGERS:

Once again, I'm writing you a Management Briefing on the subject of bureaucracy. Evidently the earlier ones haven't worked. So this time I'm taking a further step: I'm going directly to the individual employees in the company. You will be reading this poster and my comment on it in the forthcoming issue of THINK magazine. But I wanted each one of you to have an advance copy because rooting out bureaucracy rests principally with the way each of us runs his own shop.

We've got to make a dent in this problem. By the time the THINK piece comes out, I want the correction process already to have begun. And that job starts with you and with me.

Vin Learson



... snip ...

..... this is ASCII reproduction of poster he created and had put up all over the company (i'm not sure it reproduces in facebook)


+-----------------------------------------+
|           "BUSINESS ECOLOGY"            |
|                                         |
|                                         |
|            +---------------+            |
|            |  BUREAUCRACY  |            |
|            +---------------+            |
|                                         |
|           is your worst enemy           |
|              because it -               |
|                                         |
|      POISONS      the mind              |
|      STIFLES      the spirit            |
|      POLLUTES     self-motivation       |
|             and finally                 |
|      KILLS        the individual.       |
+-----------------------------------------+


"I'M Going To Do All I Can to Fight This Problem . . ." by T. Vincent Learson, Chairman
... snip ...

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
Date: 06 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/XgKpbzPDan1

Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/wall-street-bailouts-finally-over-right-brian-mahany

Oct2008, the sec. of treasury asked for TARP funds to supposedly purchase (off-book) toxic assets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

however, the end of 2008, just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T (off-book)
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home
out of the over $27T done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

The $700B allocated for TARP would have hardly make a dent in the problem, so it is not clear that there was ever any intention of using the TARP funds for that purpose ... they had to rely on the Federal Reserve to bailout the TBTF behind the scenes while the TARP funds were used for other purposes.

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but had limited market. In the late 90s we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as a countermeasure.

In the early part of the century, the sellers found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A trumps documents and they could now do no-down, no-documentation lair loans, pay for triple-A and sell to customers ... including large institutional funds restricted to dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, claims caused 30% or more loss in pension funds contributing to trillions in pension shortfall).

From the law of unintended consequences ... the lack of documentation leads to the TBTF having to form the large robo-signing mills to fabricate the (missing) documents.

If that wasn't enough, they then started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail ... creating enormous demand for dodgy loans.

The reports were that the biggest holder of the CDS gambling bets (AIG) was negotiating to payoff at 50-60 cents on the dollar when the sec. of treasury steps in and says that is illegal and that they have to take TARP funds in order to payoff at 100 cents on the dollar. AIG is the biggest recipient of TARP funds and the biggest beneficiary of CDS gambling bet payoffs is the company previously headed by the sec. of treasury.

trivia: the rhetoric on the floor of congress regarding the bank modernization act (GLBA, now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall, enabling too big to fail) was that the primary purpose of the act was "if you already had a bank charter, you got to keep it; if you don't already have a bank charter, you don't get one" ... the financial industry was worried about players moving in on banking with more efficient technology. role forward to the behind the scenes bailout by the federal reserve, new banking charters had to be given to some institutions, theoretically in violation of GLBA (including the one formally headed by the sec. of treasury and largest beneficiary of the TARP funds for AIG), in order to make them eligible for the Federal Reserve largess.

too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail, too big to manage)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Dot What?

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Dot What?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 08:43:14 -0700
Dot What? The surprisingly interesting history of the Internet domain system.
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/05/icann_transition_the_interesting_history_of_the_internet_domain_name_system.html

past posts mentioning internet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet

trivia: Postel used to let me do part of STD1 ... ref
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietf.htm

other trivia ... former coworker at science center:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks

more trivia ... author of domain names had worked at the science center ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

when he was student at MIT ... various past refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#49 InfiniBand Group Sharply, Evenly Divided
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#24 New RFC 3514 addresses malicious network traffic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#25 New RFC 3514 addresses malicious network traffic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003l.html#36 Proposal for a new PKI model (At least I hope it's new)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#42 Longest Thread Ever
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#33 Even worse than UNIX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#71 Poll: oldest computer thing you still use
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#48 Half a Century of Crappy Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#45 Folklore references to CP67 at Lincoln Labs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#87 CLIs and GUIs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#13 Web Security hasn't moved since 1995
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#42 Online Bill Payment Website Hijacked - Users were redirected to a page serving malware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#39 The Internet's 100 Oldest Dot-Com Domains
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#75 Delays in DNS security baffling: Mockapetris
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#7 VTAM security issue
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#49 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 10:20:04 -0700
hancock4 writes:

In the January 8, 2015 issue of Time Magazine, writer Walter Isaacson says the original concept of packet switching for the Internet leaves it far too vulnerable for cyber attacks.

"The Internet was designed in a way that would allow it to withstand missile attacks. That was cool, but it resulted in an unintended side effect: it made it more vulnerable to cyberattacks. So now it may be time for a little renovation."

"The roots of the Internet's design come from the network built by the Pentagon's Advanced Research Projects Agency to enable research centers to share computer resources. The ARPANET, as it was called, was packet-switched and looked like a fishnet. Messages were broken into small chunks, known as packets, that could scurry along different paths through the network and be reassembled when they got to their destination. There were no centralized hubs to control the switching and routing. Instead, each and every node had the power to route packets. If a node were destroyed, then traffic would be routed along other paths."

full article at:
http://time.com/author/walter-isaacson/#author/walter-isaacson/




one of the comparisons early 80s between the ARPANET with 56kbit linkes and 100 IMP nodes ... and the internal network with mostly 9.6kbit links and quickly approach 1000 nodes ... was that any "fault" in the ARPANET and it would go non-stable with IMP administration recovery traffic consuming full bandwidth of all 56kbit links ... aka it didn't scale.

other scaling problems with ARPANET IMPs was that maintenance was under centralized control and they were all taken down simultaneously for maintenance ... so they could be all kept in sync.

As I've frequently pontificated ... the major internet exploit up through the end of the 90s were C-language buffer related "mistakes" (before automatic execution of scripting programs). I've compared that to the original mainframe TCP/IP product implementation that was done in vs/pascal ... and had none of the vulnerabilities that are epidemic in c-language implementations.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#buffer

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 16:17:42 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#22 Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet

long ago and far away we were brought in as consultants to small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they wanted to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce"

we were looking at trying to translate payment transactions from a circuit based infrastructure where you could get SLA (service level agreement) contracts (with things like financial penalties for not meeting contracted service levels) to internet environment. the original cut had just been to to remap the message formats from circuit based infrastructure to packet based infrastructure that carried with it none of the normal service level processes. we were looking at formulating compensating procedures for internet operation to try and approximate circuit-based service guarantees.

part of this were multiple payment gateways that sat on the internet with multiple connections into different places into the backbone ... for reliability and availability. We were originally planning on advertising alternate routes (routed) ... but in the middle of this period the internet transitioned to hierarchical routing ... in part because of the large growth. what was left was getting redundant connections into multiple points in internet backbone ... and using multiple a-records to map all the different ip-addresses to the same payment gateway pools. some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

previously, you could have had multiple different attachments to different places in the internet backbone ... and be able to advertize lots of diverse routings to the same ip-address. with the change to hierarchical routing, the payment gateway had to have lots of different ip-addresses so that the diverse paths could be correctly routed.

I had final authority on the e-commerce server to gateway and could mandate webserver support for multiple A-record support (try 1st ip-address in A-record list and if that didn't work continue trying other ip-addresses in the A-record list). However, I could only recommend on the browser to webserver support, I did detailed description of multiple A-record for the browser people and got back the answer it was too complicated, I then gave them example code from Tahoe/Reno 4.3 library ... they still said it was too complicated. Early major ecommerce server was a sporting goods company that would have TV advertisements during sunday professional football halftime. However, in that timeframe, ISPs had practice of having rolling outages during the day on Sundays when they did router maintenance (i.e. their server ISP connection at halftime could be down, and the browser wouldn't try alternative addresses). It took another year to get multiple A-record support in the browser

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?
Date: 07 May 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#20 Wall Street Bailouts Are Finally Over, Right?

There have been claims that the statute of limitations has expired for some amount of the fraud ... but prosecution could still be done under Sarbanes-Oxley ... but it requires SEC desire to do something.

The rhetoric in congress regarding Sarbanes-Oxley was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors did jail time. However, possibly because even GAO didn't believe that SEC was doing anything, GAO started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing increase after SOX was passed and went into effect (and nobody doing jail time).

As an aside, SOX also has provision for SEC to have done something about the rating agencies ... but little appeared to have been done their either.

S&L crisis had 30,000 criminal referrals and 1,000 criminal convictions. The economic mess was 70 times larger than the S&L crisis and there have been *NO* criminal referrals and *NO* criminal convictions.

Repeal of Glass-Steagall enabled too big to fail ... after too big to fail were repeatedly caught laundering money for drug cartels and terrorists ... the press started expanding to also referring to them as too big to prosecute and too big to jail. This has continued with LIBOR manipulation, commodity manipulation, instrumental in tax evasion for wealthy individuals and corporations ... and other fraudulent activity.

In the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the person testify that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff. One of his observations that tips turns up 13 times more fraud than audits and SEC didn't have a tip hotline, but had a 1-800 number for corporations to complain about audits. He was also asked if new regulations were needed. He commented that while new regulations might be needed, much more important was transparency and visibility (if regulatory agencies were captured and not doing anything, then possibly with transparency and visibility other entities might better see what has been going on).

sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
financial reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
LIBOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

"Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
Date: 07 May 2015
Mailinglist: cryptography
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#4 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#11 "Trust in digital certificate ecosystem eroding"

Note the CA industry was floating a $20B/annum business plan on wallstreet for personal digital certificates ... paid for by the financial industry.

The CA industry had sold the wonders of digital signatures (along with requiring digital certificates) to the financial industry for "safe" financial transactions. Understanding liability, people in the financial industry had slightly modified the process to relying-party-only digital certificates. The result was that the financial industry would register an account owner's public key in their account record. The process then would have the financial industry transmit a copy of the account database to a CA, which would swizzle each account record bit pattern into a digital certificate and only charge $100/account. Some number of institutions spent tens of millions on pilots before it was raised to the board level the CA @account charge. One typical case of financial institution with 14M accounts, the board was told that CAs would only charge $1.4B for this great new facility ... resulting in the pilot (have already spent several tens of millions) being shutdown and the people responsible freed from their jobs.

I would also make the point that the relying-party-only certificates were redundant and superfluous ... since the financial institution (relying party) already had the public key on file in the account record. I also made a point that a typical credit card transaction payload size was 60-80 bytes. Appending digital certificates to every transaction would add 6kbyte-12kbytes to every transaction ... a factor of 100 times size bloat (for something that was redundant and superfluous).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#bloat

Ignore the redundant & supefluous comments, a financial industry standards body took up a work item for "compressed" digital certificates ... looking for a factor of ten times reduction (so size bloat would only be ten times instead of 100 times). Part of their approach was to eliminate all fields that the relying party would already have. I was able to demonstrate that the relying party would already have all fields, so a digital certificate could be compressed to zero bytes. Then rather than working for the elimination of all digital certificates as redundant and superfluous ... work for the mandated appending of zero byte digital certificates on every transaction.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

30 yr old email

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 19:46:28 -0700

Date: 05/07/85 07:28:45
From: wheeler
To: somebody in endicott

locus is a UNIX look-alike that hits the base kernal (although in a relatively high-level way so that it is applicable to lots of different unixs) plus lots of interface code. There is a Locus corp. started by a UCLA prof. that Palo Alto has a joint dev. contract with (fyi, so does at&t).

Palo Alto (& unix corp) has Locus running on top of a PC unix, S/1 unix, & VAX unix. It supports both remote files & remote execution in a transparent manner (high level networking that supports almost all types of connections, Ethernet, bisynch, etc. etc). They have also modified most code generators so that files containing executable code has identifier record that indicates what machine the code was targeted for.

Some very impressive demos have user running unix on his PC, with semi-automatic hook-up to file system on S/1 (trivial profiles established by the user/installation), invokation of a program file from the S/1 file system ... which happens to be VAX code. The "system" finds a VAX in the network, does a remote-fork to the VAX. Then the program executing on the VAX has its "pipes" directed back to the PC. Extremely impressive approximation to transparent distributed file-system plus transparent distributed execution (distributed execution not only works on machines of same architecture ... but also on machines with different architecture).

I've alwas figured that if IBM completely blows the software for the RMN* proposal ... I can use Palo Alto's LOCUS on top of Palo Alto's 4.2UNIX. Run 42UNIX+LOCUS on PC/370s, PCs, ATs, cluster machines, and on mainframe 370 (using Palo Alto's IX mods + UNIX mods). Cluster machines could easily be a combination of 370 and 801 processor cards. Majority of software and system support is already there. LOCUS mods. also fit on top of System/V.



... snip ... top of post, old email index

IBM later uses LOCUS as basis for aix/370 and aix/386 (aix/370 morphs into aix/esa).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOCUS_%28operating_system%29

My RMN* proposal was packing as many 370 and RISC chips into racks as possible. some past RMN* posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#17 mainframe and microprocessor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#19 zLinux OR Linux on zEnterprise Blade Extension???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#82 zEC12, and previous generations, "why?" type question - GPU computing

old refs about having to juggle cluster (RMN*) meetings and meetings with director of NSF on supercomputer center interconnects
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#47
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#50

old NSF related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

poast posts mentioning LOCUS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#14 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#8 Free to good home: IBM RT UNIX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#9 IBM S/360 series operating systems history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#62 How did the monitor work under TOPS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#75 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#9 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#61 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#33 Andrew developments in Rochester
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#44 Andrew developments in Rochester
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#85 SV: USS vs USS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#66 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#45 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#36 Should IBM allow the use of Hercules as z system emulator?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#34 Regarding Time Sharing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#76 DataPower XML Appliance and RACF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#41 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#92 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#21 The PDP-8/e and thread drifT?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#12 The SDS 92, its place in history?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#13 The SDS 92, its place in history?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#17 The SDS 92, its place in history?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#102 ? How programs in c language drew graphics directly to screen in old days without X or Framebuffer?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#56 The Road Not Taken: Knowing When to Keep Your Mouth Shut
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#114 Mill Computing talk in Estonia on 12/10/2104
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#50 z13 "new"(?) characteristics from RedBook
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#66 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#70 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi

posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#3 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#8 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#17 30 yr old email

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 23:09:42 -0700
hancock4 writes:

In the 1960s, the Western Union Telegraph Company published the "Western Union Telegraph News", which was their employee newsletter.

As we know, Western Union hit some tough business times in the 1980s and 1990s. But back in the 1960s, it clearly hoped to be a player in what is the internet today, providing a broadband network interconnecting computers and users at home or in small businesses.

It is interesting that a company had the right ideas about the future, yet still ended up failing. (The Western Union Telegraph Company went bankrupt. Today's company took over the name.) A discussion here quite some time ago mentioned WU often was dependent on leased Bell System lines for the "last mile" of communications, which hurt it.

In 1965, Western Union chairman Walter P. Marshall spoke of a "National Information Utility". His vision was pretty accurate. His remarks are quoted from the Western Union Telegraph News of September-October, 1965:




lots of private/proprietary nets ...

I've mentioned tymshare providing online commercial dataprocessing ... as well as providing their cms-based online computer conferencing to SHARE (ibm user group) for free as vmshare starting aug1976
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

had their tymnet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymnet

GTE acquired TeleNet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenet

ARPANET had IMPS ... recently mentioned
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#22 Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet

They were all homogeneous private nets ... which then feeds into the ISO OSI specification.

The big switch-over from APRANET to internetworking on 1JAN1983 with TCP/IP was that it had an "internetworking" layer ... that doesn't show in these other imfrastructures ... in OSI model ... is is a (non-existant) layer sitting between the top of networking (level 3) and bottom of transport (level 4).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet
other discussion collected here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm

I've mentioned that the internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the beginning into sometime late 85 or possibly early 86. I've mentioned periodically that I partially attribute this to the internal VNET code had a form of gateway in every node ... which didn't come along until internetworking on 1JAN1983.

In the 80s, I'm on the XTP technical advisory board and am involved in taking HSP to ANSI X3S3.3 for standardization. The work item is eventually rejected because ISO has requirement that restricts standards work to OSI conforming standards. XTP/HSP was rejected because

1) it supports internetworking layer, which doesn't exist in OSI 2) it went directly from transport layer to LAN/MAC interface, skipping transport-layer4/netowrk-layer3 interface 3) it went directly LAN/MAC interface which is approx. in the middle of OSI layer3 ... and doesn't existing in OSI

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#xtphsp

In 1992, AMEX spun off its financial dataprocessing outsorcing as FDC (in what was the largest IPO up until that time) ... FDC included soup-to-nuts credit card services for financial institutions (handling about half of all cards in the US), moneygram, and some number of other units. FDC then got into bidding for WU with First Financial ... but WU in the 90s wasn't doing well and FDC drops out. Later FDC merges with First Financial, acquiring WU anyway (but has to spin off moneygram). In the first part of the last decade, illegal workers sending their paychecks home explodes and by the middle of the decade, WU accounts for half FDC's bottom line. The numbers are so significant that at one point, the president of mexico offers to put the FDC executives in jail if they would visit mexico. FDC then lops off its corporate hdqtrs, spins off WU in an IPO, and KKR does a private-equity reverse-IPO, LBO of the remaining part of FDC (in what was the largest LBO up until that time, 15yrs after being the largest IPO).

Disclaimer, I'm doing stint as chief scientist attached to FDC corporate hdqtrs, and am collaterial damage when corporate hdqtrs is eliminated.

posts mentioning private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
Date: 08 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/07/bernie-sanders-proposes-a-bill-to-break-up-the-too-big-to-exist-banks/

Repeal of Glass-Steagall enabled too big to fail ... after too big to fail were repeatedly caught laundering money for drug cartels and terrorists ... the press started expanding to also referring to them as too big to prosecute and too big to jail. This has continued with LIBOR manipulation, commodity manipulation, instrumental in tax evasion for wealthy individuals and corporations ... and other fraudulent activity.

Born was chair of CFTC and proposed regulating gambling CDS, but was opposed by Levitt and Greenspan and she was quickly replaced.

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages ... but had limited market. In the late 90s we were asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as a countermeasure.

In the early part of the century, the sellers found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A (when both the sellers and the rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A trumps documents and they could now do no-down, no-documentation lair loans, pay for triple-A and sell to customers ... including large institutional funds restricted to dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds, claims caused 30% or more loss in pension funds contributing to trillions in pension shortfall). As a result over $27T was done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

president of AMEX is in competition to be the next CEO and wins; the looser leaves taking his protegee and goes to Baltimore, taking over what has been described as loan sharking business. They make some other acquisitions, eventually taking over Citibank in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall (enabling too big to fail and too big to jail). The protegee then leaves and becomes head of one of the other too big to fail. Since then there have been lots of cases of LIBOR manipulation, commodity manipulation, money laundering for terrorists and drug cartels, etc ... and nobody doing jailtime.

Jan2009 (ten years after being asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages), I was asked to HTMLize the Pecora Hearings (30s congressional hearings into crash of '29, resulting in criminal convictions and Glass-Steagall) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (references to new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call saying it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill and other agencies).

From the law of unintended consequences ... the lack of documentation leads to the TBTF having to form the large robo-signing mills to fabricate the (missing) documents.

If that wasn't enough, they then started doing securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customers and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail ... creating enormous demand for dodgy loans.

#2 on times list of those responsible for the financial mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

was responsible for GLBA (that included repeal of Glass-Steagall). His wife replaces Born as chair of CFTC ... where she kept CDSs from being regulated until her husband got law passed preventing CDS regulation. She then resigns and joins ENRON board and the financial audit committee.

Oct2008, the sec. of treasury asked for TARP funds to supposedly purchase (off-book) toxic assets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

however, the end of 2008, just the four largest TBTF were still carrying $5.2T (off-book)
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home
out of the over $27T done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

The $700B allocated for TARP would have hardly make a dent in the problem, so it is not clear that there was ever any intention of using the TARP funds for that purpose ... they had to rely on the Federal Reserve to bailout the TBTF behind the scenes while the TARP funds were used for other purposes.

The reports were that the biggest holder of the CDS gambling bets (AIG) was negotiating to payoff at 50-60 cents on the dollar when the sec. of treasury steps in and says that is illegal and that they have to take TARP funds in order to payoff at 100 cents on the dollar. AIG is the biggest recipient of TARP funds and the biggest beneficiary of CDS gambling bet payoffs is the company previously headed by the sec. of treasury.

A major factor enabling the economic mess was being able to pay for triple-A ratings (when both sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) ... enabling the $27+T between 2001 & 2008. It effectively allowed wallstreet to turn home market into what it did with "Broker Loans" and the stockmarket in the crash of '29. The repeal of Glass-Steagall and enabling too big to fail wasn't the direct cause but it laid the ground work for "moral hazard" and too big to prosecute and too big to jail (giving them effectively license for repeated fraud of all kinds).

The testimony in the Oct2008 congressional hearings into the major role that the rating agencies played in the economic mess was that their business process started to become misaligned in the early 70s ... the ratings are for the benefit of the buyers ... but the change had switching to the sellers paying for the ratings and the rating agency interests were increasingly aligned with the sellers (not the buyers) ... create enormous incentive to do the wrong thing. The testimony was that regulation becomes enormously harder when the players are incented to do the wrong thing.

However, the period last decade when there was significant reduction in regulations and what regulations were left, the regulatory agencies had significant incentive to ignore ... "regulatory capture" ... including revolving doors ... the Financial-Regulatory-Congressional complex similar to the Miltiary-Industry-Congressional complex.

The rhetoric in congress leading up to Sarbanes-Oxley was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors did jailtime ... but it required that the SEC do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything they started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing increase after SOX goes into effect (and nobody doing jailtime). SOX also has provision for SEC to do something about the rating agencies ... but little or nothing was done their either.

In the Madoff congressional hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC hands were finally forced when Madoff turned himself in). They asked him if new regulations were needed, he replied that while new regulations might be needed, more important was transparency and visibility (given that existing regulations weren't being enforced).

this has reference (slightly predating HFT which has only made it worse) to wallstreet has nothing to fear from SEC for illegal activity
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/

trivia: the rhetoric on the floor of congress regarding the bank modernization act (GLBA, courtesy of #2 on times list of those responsible for the economic mess, now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall, enabling too big to fail) was that the primary purpose of the act was "if you already had a bank charter, you got to keep it; if you don't already have a bank charter, you don't get one" ... the financial industry was worried about new players moving in on banking with more efficient technology. role forward to the behind the scenes bailout by the federal reserve, new banking charters had to be given to some institutions, theoretically in violation of GLBA (including the one formally headed by the sec. of treasury and largest beneficiary of the TARP funds for AIG), in order to make them eligible for the Federal Reserve largess (FED had long fought battles in the courts attempting to prevent public release of what it was doing).

It was FED buying trillions in toxic assets (not TARP funds) as well as providing tens of trillions of ZIRP funds to too big to fail. Note that summer of 2008, some tens of billions in off-book toxic assets went for 22cents on the dollar. The $5.2T that the four largest too big to fail were still holding the end of 2008 would have been sufficient to have them declared bankrupt and forced to be liquidated. FED was slowly buying the toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar ... hiding the fact that the too big to fail were actually failed institutions.

Note that the breakup of Ma Bell didn't involve institutions that repeatedly found to be involved in fraudulent activity (including money laundering for terrorists and drug cartels). The too big to fail were also actually failed institutions .... the massive off-book liabilities would have ordinarily required that they be declared bankrupt and liquidated.

Note that during the S&L crisis there was 30,000 criminal referrals and 1,000 criminal convictions. The economic mess was 70 times larger than the S&L crisis and there has been no criminal referrals or convictions.

sarbanes-oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
financial reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
LIBOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor
tax evasion
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion
money laundering
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 08:26:01 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality

fees were enormous ... upwards of 1/3rd the value of the transfer (when all was said and done) ... which also accounts for the enormous increase in WU revenue becoming half of FDC's bottom line.

other entities then get into the business ... perform the service charging significantly less than WU

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 11:02:52 -0700
hancock4 writes:

According to the NYT in the 1980s, heavy losses from WU's EasyLink service were killing the companyh.



the private, value-added networks (VANs) were obsoleted by internetworking and the internet ... and by the 90s most of them had disappeared.

the major one that has managed to hang on has been the bank networks ... claiming various kinds of unique services and security ... because the profits are so enormous there (also).

the card networks/VANs original grew up to connect issuers (aka institutions that issued cards to the public) and acquirers (aka the institutions that interface to merchants) ... as non-profit associations, some 30,000 institutions ("interchange").

combination of outsourcing and bank consolidation grew to the point where 90% of US transactions were processed in six datacenters that were directly interconnected and no longer were dependent on the card association (interchange) value-added networks (FDC was major player here handling about half of all credit cards in the US).

The card association had gone "for profit" and were basing fees on each transaction that travelled over their network. With transition to very few of transactions moving over their network ... they filed legal action ... that the financial institutions still had to pay the per transaction fee ... even when the transaction doesn't travel over their networks ("interchange").

In the late 90s and early part of the century, there was also some demographics switching from credit cards to debit cards. To offset the loss of revenue, the card associations did a number of things: 1) started offering "debit" cards, 2) allowed them to be used in "PIN" mode or in "signature" mode and 3) programmed point-of-sale terminals that the default for POS debit card mode was "signature".

The issue was that "signature" mode fees were around ten times the "PIN" mode fees ... and eventually resulting in the major retailers ... and then the retail store asscoation as class action legal action ... taking the card associations to court for billions of dollars.

This shows up in a different way around the start of century. There were several "safe" debit internet products created and were being pitched to major internet merchants (accounting for something like 70-80% of transactions at the time). Merchants had been indoctrinated for decades that major part of the ("interchange") fees were heavily prorated based on the associated fraud rates. They had expected that the "safe" products would result in an order of magnitude reduction in the ("interchange") fees that they were paying. However then they were told rather than an order of magnitude reduction in "interchange" fees ... they would effectively get a surchange on top of the highest fee they were already paying ... which is when the cognitive dissonance sets in and the whole program collapses.

past posts mentioning cognitive dissonance moment:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#15 Public Computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#75 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#79 PIN entry on digital signatures + extra token
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#4 GPG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#5 GPG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#29 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#32 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#51 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#60 Cobol hits 50 and keeps counting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#62 Solving password problems one at a time, Re: The password-reset paradox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#64 What happened to X9.59?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#51 64 Cores -- IBM is showing a prototype already
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#49 Hacker charges also an indictment on PCI, expert says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#62 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#1 IT Story New Standard For EU-Compliant Electronic Signatures
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#17 Chip and PIN is Broken!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#21 Should the USA Implement EMV?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#54 Trust Facade
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#69 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#10 Wal-Mart to support smartcard payments
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#26 Root Zone DNSSEC Deployment Technical Status Update
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#39 Compressing the OODA-Loop - Removing the D (and maybe even an O)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#52 Payment Card Industry Pursues Profits Over Security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#42 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#23 Fight Fraud with Device ID
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#48 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#58 Pipeline and Network Security: Protecting a Series of Tubes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#56 Does outsourcing cause data loss?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#38 ISBNs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#39 ISBNs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#15 Wicked Problems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#71 Password shortcomings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#32 Zeus/SpyEye 'Automatic Transfer' Module Masks Online Banking Theft
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#32 Use another browser - Kaspersky follows suit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#10 Does the IBM System z Mainframe rely on Security by Obscurity or is it Secure by Design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#54 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#58 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#8 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#47 Pirate Bay co-founder charged with hacking IBM mainframes, stealing money
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#60 Target Offers Free Credit Monitoring Following Security Breach
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#77 In a Cyber Breach, Who Pays, Banks or Retailers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#40 Missed Alarms and 40 Million Stolen Credit Card Numbers: How Target Blew It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#17 Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#37 Special characters for Passwords
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#44 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#53 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#55 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#58 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
Date: 08 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#28 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks

Note start of the century there was a periodic industry publication that gave the avg of thousands of stats for the 20 largest regional banks compared to the avg. for the national banks. I did some amount of analysis before being able to show that the regional banks were somewhat more profitable than the national banks. The biggest motivation for the increasing size of banks seem to be top executive compensation proportional to the size of the institutions ... not really how well it was run ... making the subsequent exploding size with too big to fail ... not only too big to prosecute and too big to jail ... but also too big to manage.

more trivia ... about the same time I was asked to look at improving the integrity of securitized mortgage supporting documents ... as countermeasure to use of securitizing obfuscating fraud ... I was also asked into NSCC (before merger with DTC that formed DTCC) to look at improving the integrity of exchange trading transactions. I worked on it for awhile and then got another call to come in. They said the work was being suspended because a side-effect of the integrity work would have greatly increased transparency and visibility ... which is antithetical to wallstreet culture ... including something about possibly 30% of transactions might need to be disavowed also requiring plausible deniability. Decade later in the Madoff congressional hearings, the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff, also raises the issue of transparency and visibility. DTCC ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation

and regarding controversy over naked short selling ... see cramer reference upthread ... and wallstreet fraud has nothing to fear from SEC.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Auditors as Whistleblowers

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Auditors as Whistleblowers
Date: 08 May 2015
Blog: Financial Crime Risk, Fraud and Security
Auditors as Whistleblowers
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/auditors-whistleblowers-brian-mahany

The rhetoric in congress as part of Sarbanes-Oxley was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee the executives and auditors did jailtime. However possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing increase after SOX went into effect (and nobody doing jail time).

The jokes around SOX was that it was actually a full employment gift for the audit industry ... and the only possible section that might show some results was the Whistleblowing section.

Later in the Madoff congressional hearings, they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in) ... who pointed out that tips turn up 13 times more fraud than audits .... and the SEC didn't have a tip hotline ... but did have a 1-800 line for companies to complain about audits.

sarbanes-oxley
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
ENRON
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
financial reporting fraud
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
whisleblowers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#whistleblower
Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 09 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Keyboard hack change latency before key repeat and rate of repeat (not just cursor) .. you could set the repeat rate to faster than screen refresh ... it took some practice because it would continue on the screen for a time after you released the key. Also since it was half-duplex device, if you happened to hit a key when a write happened ... it would lock the keyboard ... and then you had to hit reset to unlock the keyboard. Somebody in YKT started building small fifo box, unplug the keyboard from the terminal, plug in the FIFO box and then plug in the keyboard into the FIFO box ... it would manage keystrokes that happened while the screen was being written. Finally made the 3277 a reasonable interactive terminal.

The replacement was 3274 controller and 3278 terminal ... they moved a lot of the electronics out of the terminal back into the controller (to reduce manufacturing cost), which eliminated the ability to do human factors hacks. We wrote complaint to the 3274/3278 product manager ... the eventual reply was that 3274/3278 wasn't for interactive computing, it was for "data entry" (aka electronic keypunch).

The move of electronics back into the controller ... significantly increased hardware latency from .089secs on the 3277 to .3-.5secs ... this was in the days of the studies show quarter second response improve human productivity. It could be done with 3272/3277 with .16 interactive system response (.25 seen by the human), but it was impossible with 3274/3278. The 3274/3278 protocol chatter on the coax was also significant (because of electronics back in the controller). This shows up later with IBM/PC emulation cards. A IBM/PC with 3277 emulation card had 3-4 times the upload/download throughput of a 3278 emulation card.

Trivia, YKT did a report that they had the best interactive systems in the company with .25 interactive system response (1/3rd second seen by human on 3277). I pointed out that I had several systems with .11 interactive system response (.2 seconds seen by human on 3277) ... on similar hardware running similar workload.

past posts mentioning 3272/3277
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#28 IBM S/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#63 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#23 IBM's mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#30 3270 protocol
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#32 mainframe question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#17 3270 protocol
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#74 Itanium2 power limited?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#77 IBM 327x terminals and controllers (was Re: Itanium2 power
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#2 IBM 327x terminals and controllers (was Re: Itanium2 power
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#6 IBM 327x terminals and controllers (was Re: Itanium2 power
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#43 IBM 3174
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#15 Mainframe Tape Drive Usage Metrics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003i.html#30 A Dark Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#36 When nerds were nerds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#0 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#11 Infiniband - practicalities for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#12 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#15 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#28 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#9 terminals was: Caller ID "spoofing"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#58 Intel abandons USEnet news
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006s.html#42 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#34 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#39 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#7 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#10 IBM System/3 & 3277-1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#40 Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#42 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#9 3277 terminals and emulators
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#55 Graphics on a Text-Only Display
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#19 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#42 Book on Poughkeepsie
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#40 My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#66 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#59 ISPF Counter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#60 ISPF Counter
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#50 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#53 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#72 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#31 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#36 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#41 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#44 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#0 Entry point for a Mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#80 3270 Emulator Software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#33 Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#57 So why doesn't the mainstream IT press seem to get the IBM mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#64 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#53 3270 Terminal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#94 coax (3174) throughput
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#33 At least two decades back, some gurus predicted that mainframes would disappear
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#41 My first mainframe experience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#43 My first mainframe experience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#20 3270 archaeology
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#19 Deja Cloud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#21 Deja Cloud?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#61 Migration off mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#84 Is there an SPF setting to turn CAPS ON like keyboard key?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#12 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#13 From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#15 Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#19 Writing article on telework/telecommuting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#30 Inventor of e-mail honored by Smithsonian
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#38 Invention of Email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#74 HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT WORKING CORRECTLY
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#3 printer history Languages influenced by PL/1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#15 cp67, vm370, etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#37 Why File transfer through TSO IND$FILE is slower than TCP/IP FTP ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#37 PDP-10 and Vax, was System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#61 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#1 3270 response & channel throughput
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#9 3270s & other stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#12 HCF [was Re: AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series "Halt &Catch Fire"]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#55 Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#66 Sequence Numbrs (was 32760?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#14 Tech Time Warp of the Week: The 50-Pound Portable PC, 1977
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#19 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#89 spacewar
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#25 Teletypewriter Model 33
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#65 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#5 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#25 GUI vs 3270 Re: MVS Quick Reference, was: LookAT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#41 System Response
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#89 Real Programmers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#23 Three Reasons the Mainframe is in Trouble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#26 Fifty Years of BASIC, the Programming Language That Made Computers Personal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#106 TSO Test does not support 65-bit debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#74 SD?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#127 How Much Bandwidth do we have?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#38 [CM] IBM releases Z13 Mainframe - looks like Batman

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Tech Time Warp of the Week: The World's First Hard Drive, 1956

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Tech Time Warp of the Week: The World's First Hard Drive, 1956
Date: 09 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Tech Time Warp of the Week: The World's First Hard Drive, 1956
http://www.wired.com/2014/01/tech-time-warp-ibm-ramac/

they let me wander around the plant site after transfer to SJR in the 70s. Bldgs 14&15 were doing round the clock, scheduled stand-alone testing on mainframes. They said they had once tried running MVS in attempt to do concurrent testing, but MVS had 15min MTBF in that environment. I offered to rewrite IOS to make it bullet proof and never fail ... after which they could do any amount of on-demand, concurrent testing. From the law of unintended consequences, when they would have a problem, I would get called to come in and diagnose my software problem ... but it usually was some hardware problem with test devices. They then started also calling me to sit in on conference calls with POK channel people. I asked where were their own people. They said that such things use to be handled by the senior engineers, but most of them had left for startups in silicon valley.

I wrote a SJR internal-only report on the rewrite ... all the things need to get to on-demand concurrent testing ... and happened to mention the MVS 15min MTBF. I was later told that the MVS group did their best to get me fired for that reference ... and I had probably made an enemy for life ... possibly one of the items behind being periodically told that I had no career or promotions in the company. From the annals of truth is stranger is fiction ... I took early out in summer 1992 ... bridge to 30yrs, paid to leave and never come back. The first day at home, I get a letter saying that I've been promoted.

posts mentioning getting to play disk engineer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 09 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
3277ga was done by dept. a74 in pok, sort of inexpensive verrsion of the 60s 2250 graphics display (both mod1 & mod4 were about $100k, mod1 was direct mainframe channel attach, mod4 was 2250/1130). The same dept later did the a74 370 workstation ... old email with names obfuscated to protect the innocent.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#email850503

list of vm370 updates I did for a74:


405 dmkcfi.updta74
405 dmkdsd.updta74
 405 dmkium.updta74
1134 dmkmov.updta74
 405 dmkser.updta74
2025 dmkpam.updta74
1377 dmkmch.updta74
3564 dmkcpi.updta74
1215 dmkpgv.updta74
162 dmkpgr.updta74

...

Lincoln Labs had done a 2250 library for CMS (fortran). I took the library and modified the cp67/cms editor to use the 2250.

Boeing Huntsville had been sold a two-processor 360/67 for tss/360 ... but tss/360 never quite made production quality so customers tended to either run them as 360/65 with os/360 or ran then with cp67/cms (exept Univ. of Michigan that wrote their own virtual memory operating system MTS ... 3270 screen above, and Stanford did Orvyl). Boeing Huntsville was using the machines to drive 2250 graphic design applications with MVT ... however MVT had horrible storage management problem ... enormously aggravated for long running applications (especially storage fragmentation). Boeing Huntsville modified MVT release 13 to use 360/67 virtual memory hardware ... didn't do any paging ... but used the virtual memory hardware to reorganize for contiguous addresses as countermeasure to the significant MVT storage fragmentation problem (exacerbated by the long running 2250 design applications).

Note justification for making all 370s virtual memory was study showing that typical 1mbyte real storage 370/165 ran with four MVT regions ... but MVT applications tended to only use 1/4 of region ... because of the storage management problem. Adding virtual memory to MVT would be able to get 16 regions on 1mbyte real storage 370/165 with little or no paging. reference:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73

Very early in 360 days, Lincoln Labs had written LLMPS (lincoln labs mulitprogramming system) ... sort of multitasking, super DEBE ... and was contributed to the SHARE software library. Folklore is that Univ. of Mich. initially scaffolded MTS starting with using LLMPS as base.

As undergraduate in the 60s, the univ. hired me as fulltime employee to be responsible for IBM mainframe operating system and software (I did a lot of work improving OS/360 performance and then rewrote lots of CP67 & CMS for performance).

Boeing then hired me as fulltime employee for the summer (still undergraduate) to help setup Boeing Computer Serivces (consolidate Boeing dataprocessing in independent business unit to better monetize significant investment). This included doing CP67/CMS system in hdqtrs datacenter at Beoing field (which at the time only had a 360/30 for payroll). It was Renton datacenter that had $200m-$300m in IBM gear (I thot may have been the largest mainframe datacenter in the world, that summer they had 360/65s arriving faster than they could be installed, there were constant pieces of 360/65 being staged in the halls around the datacenter). Boeing was also replicating Renton at the new 747 plant at Paine field in Everett ... disaster scenario where Mt. Rainer heats up and the mudslide takes out the renton datacenter; estimate that being w/o renton datacenter for a week would cost Boeing more than the renton datacenter.

Also that summer the two-processor 360/67 from Boeing Huntsville was moved to Seattle. I finally graduate and decide to join IBM instead of returning to Boeing or staying at the univ.

Later at IBM I would sponsor John Boyd's briefings. One of his references was he had severely criticized the sensors for trail in vietnam ... and possibly as punishment he was put in charge of spook base ... which one of his biographies states was $2.5B windfall for IBM (in 1970 dollars). Spook base reference gone 404, but lives on at the wayback machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212092342/http://home.att.net/~c.jeppeson/igloo_white.html

posts & URLs referencing Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

End of vacuum tubes in computers?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:34:38 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#111 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#0 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

yesterday was the last in series of battle of britain ... there was much larger crowd (than usual) ... in part because they had hurricane and spitfire on the tarmac ... they then cleared the crowds and they taxied out to the runway ... and flew around the field several times.
http://historicflight.org/hf/

possibly not the same magnitude of the 40 that were in the DC mall flyover on Friday.

they had about dozen "re-enactors" ... they are a character from the period that have researched in detail and impersonate ... including dress. They also had additional items on display ... including three oxygen face masks with the (heavy) microphone. There was no throat mics during the "battle of britain" period.

They said that all powerpoint presentations should be on the website, but I'm still looking for them.

a month ago, amazon made all 8 in this series available for free for a day (kindle version) ... I started reading in order ... but managed to only get through half of this before event yesterday
http://www.amazon.com/Winston-S-Churchill-1939-1941-Biography-ebook/dp/B00VQJHKA2/

The presentations and the book both talk about the deployment of radar along the coast for early warning of german attacks. They also cover intersecting radio beams used by germans for flight guidance and even automatic release of bombs ... the german's broadcast three directional radio beam ... "on course", "off to the left", and "off to the right". It then had three intersecting radio beams that signaled automatic preparing the bombs, opening the bomb doors, and releasing the bombs. Britain countermeasure was stronger radio signal to divert the planes off course.

Several times in the book, it has churchill checking on the progress of radar controlled anti-aircraft guns and searchlights ... as if they were deploying them during the battle of britain period ... but I asked about it and said they never really deployed into later in the war.

The book also talks about britain trying to hurry up the 50 obsolete destroyers (they eventually get), saying that they would not only install their new submarine detection sonar systems on the obsolete destroyers ... but also offerred to install them on all US navy vessels. There was also frequent references (in the book) to enigma decrypts

past posts in thread about despite news releases to the contrary, the US was really pretty bad at anti-submarine warfare.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#1 Lessons Not Learned: The U.S. Navy's Status Quo Culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#43 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#46 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#47 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#78 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#31 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

End of vacuum tubes in computers?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 10:47:18 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:

I recall R. V. Jones in his book "Most Secret War" saying that the British didn't do much work on radar-controlled guns and lights, preferring instead to concentrate on getting airborne radar on night fighters, which was considered more effective. In use from early 1941 IIRC. I don't have the book on hand to check atm.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#111 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#0 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#36 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

Winston S. Churchill: Finest Hour, 1939-1941 (Volume VI)

loc15664-67:
Against the bombers themselves, a series of beam bending devices, known by the code name 'Headache', were in the process of development. At the same time, radar sets were being developed both for anti-aircraft gun directional finding (GL), code name 'George', and for search-light control (SLC), code name 'Elsie'. Reading a report of technical setbacks in the development of the search-light control system known as 'Yagi'

loc16161-62:
All available radio capacity, Ismay explained, was taken up with the 'urgent needs' of producing the anti-aircraft gun GL sets and their offshoots, the PE proximity fuse, and the SLC searchlight control sets.

loc16499-502:
At the same time, twenty-four sets of radar control for searchlights had been installed in the Tangmere sector, and some of these were already working. 2517 Although giving promising results, these searchlight control sets, which were hand-made, were 'faulty, and were apt to be affected by rain and damp weather'.

loc16510-12
The bending of the beams could protect smaller towns, or those not readily identified from the air. London, so clearly identified from the air by the Thames estuary, remained particularly vulnerable, and during October the Germans bombed London without respite.

....

the presentation yesterday mentioned germany having some amount of trouble getting intelligence for bombing targets.

I've reference before that John Foster Dulles was major factor in rebuilding German's economy and military ... and then from the law of unintended consequences, in 1943 when Strategic Bombing Command was looking for detailed information on targets ... they "found" detailed locations and plans of german industry and military targets in NYC.

However, strategic bombing was pretty ineffective, roosevelt commissioned strategic bombing survey in 1944 because strategic bombing represented 1/3rd of WW2 spending ... which found strategic bombing having little or no effect. It seems not long afterwards Lemay started strategic fire bombing of cities ... possibly to try and demonstrate that strategic bombing was capable of something (and fire bombing of cities would be guaranteed to hit something).

recent posts mentioning strategic bombing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#64 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

End of vacuum tubes in computers?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: End of vacuum tubes in computers?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 12:01:49 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:

I recall R. V. Jones in his book "Most Secret War" saying that the British didn't do much work on radar-controlled guns and lights, preferring instead to concentrate on getting airborne radar on night fighters, which was considered more effective. In use from early 1941 IIRC. I don't have the book on hand to check atm.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#102 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#111 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#0 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#36 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

possibly more use later than during battle of britain which was spring, summer and fall of 40.

Presentation yesterday had it proceed in three phases ... with some overlap. Initial phase was bombing cargo/supply ships in the channel ... to try and cut off supplies to britain (somebody then raises the question why supply ships were coming into the channel ... at points along the route they could even be seen by germans from the french coast). The 2nd phase transitioned to bombing air fields ... some claims is if they had continued that they might have won. However, in raid near london, some bombs went astray into civilian area. Churchill got mad and ordered 50 bombers on night raid of berlin. Hitler made some comment to Goering about why Germany wasn't bombing their cities ... and Goering switch to bombing cities (some reference to Goering was one of Britain's major assets).

reference to Britain providing US secret details of radar in fall of 1940 ... with US producing radar for planes
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/NightFighterRadars/index.html

Radar in World War II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_in_World_War_II

this talks about "miniture" sets for airborne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_in_World_War_II#Airborne_Intercept

fitted into
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Beaufighter

which they don't even mention playing a factor in battle of britain (heavy and slow), it is all about hurricans & spitfires ... which are smaller, faster, single engine (references to space was so tight that it was very difficult to retrofit armor around the pilot compartment).

from above:

The first Beaufighter was delivered to RAF Tangmere for trials with the Fighter Interception Unit on 12 August 1940, and the first operational machines were received by 29 Squadron and 604 Squadron on 2 September.[11]

The Beaufighter came off the production line at almost exactly the same time as the first British Airborne Interception (AI) night fighter radar sets. With the four 20 mm cannon mounted in the lower fuselage, the nose could accommodate the radar antennas, and the general spaciousness of the fuselage enabled the AI equipment to be fitted easily. Even loaded to 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) the aircraft was fast enough to catch German bombers. By early 1941, it was an effective counter to Luftwaffe night raids.



... snip ...

spitfire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire
hurricane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hurricane

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 10 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#33 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#35 Remember 3277?

1980 STL (now silicon valley lab) was bursting at the seams and they were planning on moving 300 people from the IMS group to offsite bldg (about 5mi away) with remote 3270 back into the STL datacenter. They tried "remote 3270" (19.6kbaud lines) and found the human factors intolerable (see uptread refs to quarter sec. response). I got con'ed into doing channel extension support so they could have channel attach 3270 controllers at the remote bldg. Part of the support was downloading channel programs to the channel emulator box at the offsite bldg. Loopback tests show users can't tell difference between real channel attach 3270 and channel extender channel attach 3270. The vendor then wants to ship my support to customers ... but there is a group in POK that have been playing with some serial stuff that objects (gets corporate to not agree, supposedly concerned if it was at customers, they would have harder time justify shipping their stuff). channel extender posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#channel.extender

trivia: mainframe channel protocol design point was left over from the mid-60s and original 360 ... when electronic memory was expensive and scarce ... so there was lots of protocol chatter leveraging mainframe memory. The channels are also half-duplex ... so channels are "busy" while chatter goes on ... and slower controllers could significant exacerbate total channel busy for operations. 1980s was still in 370 period where large mainframes still limited to 16 channels ... and traditional configurations would spread/intermix 3270 controllers and 3830 disk controllers across all available channels. It turns out the slower processing of the 3270 controller drove channel busy interfering with disk throughput. The channel extender box (connected to the real 370 processor channels) was significantly faster than 3270 controllers ... and reduced the real channel busy operations for the same operations (with all the 3270 controller protocol chatter overhead handled by emulation box at the remote site). The reduced channel busy (for 3270 operations) then improved disk i/o throughput ... and resulted in 10-15% increased overall system throughput.

They finally do get to ship their stuff ten years later (1990) as ESCON with ES/9000 when it is already obsolete. In 1988, I had been asked to help LLNL standardize some stuff they have been using which quickly becomes fibre channel standard (including downloading i/o programs to the remote to minimize throughput bottlenecks with significant protocol chatter latency). Then some POK channel engineers become involved in FCS and define a horrible heavy weight protocol on top of FCS that significantly cuts native throughput which is eventually released as (mainframe) FICON. At one point, IBM releases max/peak I/O throughput benchmark numbers for z196 that uses 104 FICONs to achieve 2M IOPS. About the same time there is a (native) Fibre Channel announced for e5-2600 blade claiming over a million IOPS (for single FCS, two such FCS have higher throughput than 104 FICON). FICON posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon

Regarding dealing with POK product test, not directly. before transfer to SJR on west coast in 70s ... I was involved in project to do 370 16-processor. We involved the 3033 processor engineers to work on it in their spare time (a lot more interesting than the remapping 168-3 logic to 20% faster chips). At first everybody thot it would be a fantastic machine ... but then somebody told the head of POK that it could be decades before the POK favorite son operating system had effective 16-way support (POK finally ships 16-way machine in 2000), head of POK then invites some of us to never visit POK again and tells the 3033 processor engineers to never get distracted again. past SMP posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

In the recent disk thread (in this same group), I mention getting to play disk engineer in bldgs 14 (disk engineering) and 15 (product test) after transfer to SJR. Disk product test tends to get 2nd or 3rd working engineering machine to start doing disk i/o regression tests ... and after I'm at SJR they get early 3033 engineering machine and early 4341 engineering machine. I mention in disk thread that disk engineers start asking to sit in on conference calls with POK channel engineers. They eventually explain that this use to be handled by disk senior engineers ... but so many have left to do startups in silicon valley.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#34 Tech Time Warp of the Week: The World's First Hard Drive, 1956

posts mentioning geting to play disk engineer in bldgs 14&15
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk

For even more topic drift ... old 4341 email from the period:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#4341

I get involved in doing benchmarks for LLNL on engineering 4341 in bldg. 15 ... they were looking at getting 70 4341s for a cluster supercomputer compute farm.

You could get a cluster of 4341s that were cheaper than 3033, had more compute power than 3033, had more i/o than 3033, used less floor space and environmental resources than 3033. Folklore is at one point the head of POK had the allocation of a critical 4341 manufacturing component cut in half (as means of reducing the threat). Later, large corporations (including IBM) started ordering hundreds of 4341s at a time for placing out in departmental areas ... sort of the leading edge of coming distributed computing tsunami (efficient cost effective computing could place one in every departmental area as well as aggregating in clusters in datacenters)

Other trivia: a decade later in 1990, I'd been working with LLNL on standardization of fibre channel standard ... but also working with them on using large clusters of RS6000s for supercomputer ... as well as working with RDBMS vendors on use of large clusters of RS6000s for commercial dataprocessing. The mainframe DB2 group complain if I'm allowed to proceed, it will be at least 5yrs ahead of them. Old reference to meeting in ellison's conference room Jan1992
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

then within a period of a few weeks, cluster scaleup is transferred, announced as supercomputer (for scientific and numeric *ONLY*) and we were told we couldn't work on anything with more than four processors. other old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa

cluster scaleup posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 11 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#33 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#35 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#39 Remember 3277?

... and being told couldn't work on anything with more than four processors ... was major motivation to take the early out summer 1992

You may have been paid for doing it ... playing disk engineer, channel engineer, cluster scaleup, supporting customers, providing highly enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters, etc ... were just my hobbies (not my job) and contributed to constantly being told that I had no promotions or career in the company. I was also blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in the late 70s and early 80s ... folklore is that when IBM's executive committee were informed of online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me (some conjecture that the reason that they didn't was so many internal datacenters were running my operating systems). As per the post in the disk thread, from the annals of truth is stranger than fiction ... first day at home on early out (paid to leave and never come back), i get a letter at home that I've been promoted.

Many parts of IBM became frozen in time because of the enormous success of 360/370 in the 60s and early 70s.

Late 80s, a senior disk engineer gets a talk scheduled at the annual, worldwide internal communication group conference, supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opens the talk with statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was the communication group had stranglehold on mainframe datacenters with strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls, they were violently fighting off distributed computing and client/server ... trying to preserve their (emulated) dumb terminal install base. The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. They came up with several solutions to correct the problem (which were constantly vetoed by the communication group).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

A couple yrs later the company goes into the red because of this stranglehold ... the end of 1992 the company is being reorganized in preparation for breakup into the 13 baby blues

a little distracted at moment, went for walk and coming back we saw somebody jump into car and speed off. when we got to the front door was splintered and open and lots of stuff is missing.

In any case, starting in the early 80s ... one of the things I got to do was project I called HSDT ... that had T1 and higher-speed links (folklore is possibly the one person on the executive committee that didn't want to fire me ... was providing the funding). In the middle 80s, was contracting for some stuff on the other side of the pacific. The friday before I was to go over to look at some of it, somebody in raleigh sent out announcement for "high-speed" discussion group with the following definitions: low-speed: 9.6kbit, medium speed: 19.2kbit, high speed: 56kbit, very high speed: 1.5mbits. Next monday on conference room wall on the other side of the pacific: low speed <20mbits, medium speed 100mbits, high-speed 200-300mbits, very high speed 500-600mbits.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

About that time, the communication group prepares a presentation for the executive committee that says customers don't want T1 before sometime in the 90s ... that 56kbit is just fine. They base it on the 37x5 fat pipe installs (multiple parallel 56kbit links running as single logical link). They show that customer installs of fat pipes drop to zero by 5 or 6 six parallel 56kbit links. Possibly because 37x5 doesn't support more than 56kbit links they didn't mention that telco tariffs for five 56kbit links is about the same as single T1 link. We did trivial survey and found 200 customers with T1 links ... but they would switch to non-IBM box to support full T1 ... rather than playing with communication group boxes.

Somewhat as part of HSDT ... was asked to work with the NSF supercomputer centers and director of NSF ... and interconnect for the centers. Initially was suppose to get $20M, but then congress cuts the budget, some other things happen, and finally NSF releases and RFP (based on what we had been working with them on and already had running). Internal politics prevent us from bidding, the director of NSF tries to help writting a letter to company with support from other agencies, copying the CEO ... but that just makes the internal politics worse (then NSF comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses) ... some old email ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet
and posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#nsfnet

The communication group has a misinformation program going inside the company claiming that they could do NSF, TCP/IP T1 links ... somebody in the loop collects all the misinformation email going back and forth and forwards it to us. A heavily truncated and redacted version is including at the above URL.

As the regional networks connect into the nodes, it becomes the NSFNET backbone which is the precursor to the modern internet.

Other trivia ... original mainframe TCP/IP was done in vs/pascal ... but had several performance issues getting about 44kbyte/sec using a 3090 processor. I did the software changes to support RFC1044 and in some tuning tests at cray research between 4341 and cray machine ... got sustained (4341) channel speeds using only modest amount of 4341 processor (possibly 500 times improvement in bytes moved per instruction executed)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#1044

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 09:16:49 -0700
Morten Reistad <first@lat.name> writes:

And the paper critizising the design of the Ethernet is also pretty good, written in the early eighties.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

The IBM token-ring forces and SAA people came out with paper comparing 16mbit T/R compared to (10mbit) ethernet. However, based on their numbers, they appeared to use original 3mbit ethernet before "listen before transmit". The new IBM Almaden research bldg was heavily wired with CAT5 assuming T/R use ... but they found that 10mbit ethernet Ethernet had lower latency and higher aggregate throughput for the same wires & configuration.

Also the 32bit microchannel 16mbit T/R cards had much lower card throughput (than most 16bit AT-bus 10mbit ethernet cards) ... design point being dumb terminal emulation. 1988 ACM SIGCOMM paper showed for typical etherenet configuration, 30 stations with low level driver routine constantly transmitting minimum sized packets, aggregate ethernet lan throughput dropped to around 8mbit/sec.

The workstation group had previously done their own card 16bit AT-bus 4mbit token-ring card for the PC/RT. For the RS6000 with 32bit microchannel bus, corporate mandated they they use standard PC microchannel cards, including the standard PC 32bit microchannel 16mbit T/R card ... but besides all the other issues, the standard microchannel 16mbit T/R card had lower per-card throughput than the PC/RT 16bit AT-bus 4mbit T/R card.

past posts mentioning dumb terminal emulation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

my wife was co-author of IBM response to a gov. large, secure "campus" network request ... where she introduced "3-tier architecture" in the response. We were then out making customer executive presentations on 3-tier architecture, ethernet, tcp/ip, etc ... and taking lots of arrows and heat from the token-ring, SAA, and SNA forces. misc. past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier

Late 80s, a senior disk engineer gets a talk scheduled at the annual, worldwide internal communication group conference, supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opens the talk with statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was the communication group had stranglehold on mainframe datacenters with strategic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls, they were violently fighting off distributed computing and client/server ... trying to preserve their (emulated) dumb terminal install base. The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms with drop in disk sales. They came up with several solutions to correct the problem (which were constantly vetoed by the communication group).

past posts mentioning 1988 SIGCOMM paper
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#39 Ethernet efficiency (was Re: Ms employees begging for food)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003p.html#13 packetloss bad for sliding window protocol ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#17 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#32 Ethernet at 40: Its daddy reveals its turbulent youth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#18 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#30 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#128 How Much Bandwidth do we have?

past posts mentioning PC/RT 4mbit T/R card:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001n.html#55 9-track tapes (by the armful)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#9 IBM MIcrochannel??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#40 ibm time machine in new york times?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004e.html#13 were dumb terminals actually so dumb???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#59 IBM 3614 and 3624 ATM's
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#12 practical applications for synchronous and asynchronous communication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#20 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#21 Ethernet, Aloha and CSMA/CD -
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#38 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#50 Channel Distances
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#35 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#36 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years later
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#81 IBM to the PCM market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#21 MAINFRAME Training with IBM Certification and JOB GUARANTEE
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#37 What if the computers went back to the '70s too?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#64 A Complete History Of Mainframe Computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#15 SNA: conflicting opinions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#16 WSJ.com - IBM Puts Executive on Leave
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#15 Small Server Mob Advantage
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#66 How long before Microsoft goes the way of DEC (and in part, IBM)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#67 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#23 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#34 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#63 25 reasons why hardware is still hot at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#4 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#57 So why doesn't the mainstream IT press seem to get the IBM mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#34 TCM's Moguls documentary series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#0 I actually miss working at IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#64 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#41 Is email dead? What do you think?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#43 My first mainframe experience
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#60 Speed matters: how Ethernet went from 3Mbps to 100Gbps... and beyond
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#35 Soups
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#90 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#50 Hello?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#61 "25 Years of IBM's OS/2"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#37 Hard drives: A bit of progress
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#70 Under what circumstances would it be a mistake to migrate applications/workload off the mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#40 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#9 3270s & other stuff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#32 Ethernet at 40: Its daddy reveals its turbulent youth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#84 Metcalfe's Law: How Ethernet Beat IBM and Changed the World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#4 IBM commitment to academia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#5 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#19 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#79 wtf ? - was Catalog system for Unix et al
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#88 The Tragedy of Rapid Evolution?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#37 Could this be the wrongest prediction of all time?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#128 How Much Bandwidth do we have?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 12 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#33 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#35 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#39 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#40 Remember 3277?

About the same time that the senior disk engineer made his talk stating that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division, my wife was co-author of IBM response to a gov. large, secure "campus" network request ... where she introduced "3-tier architecture" in the response. We were then out making customer executive presentations on 3-tier architecture, ethernet, tcp/ip, etc ... and taking lots of arrows and heat from the token-ring, SAA, and SNA forces. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#3tier

you haven't seen it or weren't aware of it ... late dec.1992 time magazine article discusses the breakup of ibm into the 13 baby blues ... behind paywall but lives free at the wayback machine (this is still free as of this morning, but I've seen other TIME articles disappear from wayback, like TIME periodically goes through getting specific ones removed).
http://web.archive.org/web/20101120231857/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html

then the board brought in former president of AMEX to resurrect the company and reverse the breakup.

other triva: we had both left on bridge summer of 1992. We get a call late 92 or early 93 from somebody in the bowels of Armonk to ask us if we could work on one of the breakup issues. Different divisions have supplier contracts ... but other divisions have MOUs that allow them to utilize another division's contracts. With the breakup into 13 different companies, all those MOUs have to be turned into real contracts. We were asqked to go through all the MOU databases and index all the supplier contracts, which division has the contract and what other divisions are making use of the supplier contracts. Before we get started on the work, the new CEO is brought in and the breakup is reversed.

past posts mentioning the MOU work for the breakup
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#8 Microsoft culture must change, chairman says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#55 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#70 Last Gasp For Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#54 IBM Sales Fall Again, Pressuring Rometty's Profit Goal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#68 Over in the Mainframe Experts Network LinkedIn group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#90 Is IBM Suddenly Vulnerable To A Takeover?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#143 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#81 Ginni gets bonus, plus raise, and extra incentives

other past posts mentioning breakup into 13 "baby blues"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#60 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#61 What is holding back cloud adoption?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012p.html#63 Today in TIME Tech History: Piston-less Power (1959), IBM's Decline (1992), TiVo (1998) and More
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#76 mainframe "selling" points
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#3 New HD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#34 Ethernet at 40: Its daddy reveals its turbulent youth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#53 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#11 relative mainframe speeds, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#20 Y2K hacks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#33 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#35 Ex-Bailout Watchdog: JPMorgan's Actions "Entirely Consistent With Fraud"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#76 IBM Spent A Million Dollars Renovating And Staffing Its Former CEO's Office
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#17 The Big, Bad Bit Stuffers of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#79 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#46 As an IBM'er just like the Marines only a few good men and women make the cut,
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#43 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#40 The Mainframe is "Alive and Kicking"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#76 DataPower XML Appliance and RACF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#77 IBM going ahead with more U.S. job cuts today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#2 IBM commitment to academia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#7 IBM commitment to academia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#14 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#17 Should we, as an industry, STOP using the word Mainframe and find (and start using) something more up-to-date
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#31 China mulls probe into IBM, Oracle, EMC after NSA hack claims - report
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#61 John Boyd's Art of War
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#49 The Original IBM Basic Beliefs for those that have never seen them
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#6 Voyager 1 just left the solar system using less computing powerthan your iP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#35 Why is the mainframe so expensive?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#46 50,000 x86 operating system on single mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#66 NSA Revelations Kill IBM Hardware Sales In China
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#85 How do you feel about IBM passing off it's retirees to ObamaCare?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#17 z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#78 wtf ? - was Catalog system for Unix et al
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#16 IBM Shrinks - Analysts Hate It
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#64 "Death of the mainframe"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#65 "Death of the mainframe"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#73 "Death of the mainframe"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#47 McCain: Send Petraeus back to Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#48 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#97 Santa has a Mainframe!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#15 Quixotically on-topic post, still on topic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#81 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#83 CPU time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#93 Maximizing shareholder value: The Goal that changed corporate America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#101 Defense Department Needs to Act Like IBM to Save Itself
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#24 IBM sells Intel server business, company is doomed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#55 Maximizing shareholder value: The goal that changed corporate America
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#69 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#93 Curious observation: lack of a simple optimization in a C program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#16 [OT ] Mainframe memories
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#81 Eisenhower's military-industrial warning rings truer than ever
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#75 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#4 Is end of mainframe near ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#111 The Decline and Fall of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#37 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#58 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#93 Demonstrating Moore's law
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#50 IBM's Ginni Rometty Just Confessed To A Huge Failure -- It Might Be The Best Thing For The Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#61 Decimation of the valuation of IBM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#131 Memo To WSJ: The CRomnibus Abomination Was Not "A Rare Bipartisan Success"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#140 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#162 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#170 IBM Continues To Crumble
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#0 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#51 bloomberg article on ASG and Chpater 11
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#15 Retirement Heist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#32 PEU Report: Obama's Intelligence Oversight Board a Corporate Lot
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#40 Remember 3277?

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:02:13 -0700
hancock4 writes:

I think something that greatly aided the explosion of the internet was the use of the PC as a terminal. That is, PC's were a multi-purpose device, able to do spreadsheets, word processing, play games, keep a database as well as serve as a terminal. Indeed, as a terminal, they were superior to a Teletype or 2741--attached printers weren't too expensive. So, consumers were getting a multi-function machine for their purchase, making it more attractive.

FWIW, by way of comparison, a good quality Smith-Corona portable electric typewriter cost about $300 in 1979.

In addition, it should be noted that back then Western Union was tightly regulated by the FCC. I was surprised to read that WU had to file new tariffs--an expensive and time consuming process--just to replace printing terminals with CRT terminals.




re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

I have pontificated a lot about

1) internal network was larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime late '85 or early '86

2) there was enormous 3270 install base, a big uptake of IBM/PCs by corporations that could get an IBM/PC (for already justified 3270), for about the same price, that provided the 3270 function as well some local computing ... all in single desktop footprint (and could use preexisting 3270 business justification).

big change over for apranet/internet was cutover on 1Jan1983 from IMP/HOST (about 100 IMPs & 255 hosts, compared to internal network rapdidly approachin 1000 hosts). One contribution was that the internal network technology had a flavor of gateway in every node (that allowed lots of autonomous, local control, w/o having to go thru corporate hdqtrs, effectively what was happening with IMPs).

The next transition was PCs (as PCs got more powerful) & Workstations started appearing as internet TCP/IP nodes. On the internal network (inside the corporation), the communication group was fighting off distributed computing and client/server (trying to preserve their emulated dumb terminal paradigm) ... forcing PCs (and workstation) to operate as (emulated) dumb terminals.

This also leads to the story I've periodically retold about the senior disk engineer getting a talk scheduled at the internal, world-wide, annual communication group conference, supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opend the talk with comment that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had corporate strategic responsibility for everything that crossed the datacenter walls ... and had stranglehold on mainframe datacenters. The disk division was seeing that stranglehold resulting in data fleeing datacenters for more distributed computing friendly platforms (the disk division had come up with a number of solutions to correct the problems, but they were veto'ed by the communication group). That stranglehold also played major role in corporation going into red a few years later.

some past dumb terminal posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

In the early 80s, I got a project I called HSDT doing T1 and faster speed links ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

somewhat as a result I was being involved with NSF supercomputer centers and the director of NSF in connecting those centers. Originally we were suppose to get $20M, but then congress cuts the budget, some other things happens and eventually there is a RFP is released (in large part based on what we were already doing). Internal politics prevented us from bidding on the RFP; the director of NSF tried to help by writing the company the letter (backed by some number of other agencies), but that just made the internal politics worse (as did comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connects, it evolves into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to the modern internet. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

The proprietary & value added networks weren't open ... analogous to the early apranet/internet ... it was when open internetworking provided workaround to such limitations ... that connectivity started to explode.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:33:47 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

Internal politics prevented us from bidding on the RFP; the director of NSF tried to help by writing the company the letter (backed by some number of other agencies), but that just made the internal politics worse (as did comments that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead of all RFP responses). As regional networks connects, it evolves into the NSFNET backbone, precursor to the modern internet. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet




re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

the communication group had also started an internal misinformation campaign ... trying to claim that nsfnet backbone could run over sna/vtam. Somebody in the loop, forwarded to me ... a heavily snipped and redacted version previously posted:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email870109

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:53:16 -0700
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

Microsoft would have gone out of business, since no one would have had a reason to upgrade from Windows 3.1.

As for the price of a computer capable of running Windows 3.1 with today's technology... probably somewhere about $10, I suspect.




mid-90s M'soft developers conference at mascone ... all the banners sad internet, but the constantly repeated theme in all the sessions was protect your investment ... the heavy investment in visual basic scripting ... including paradigm imbedded in data files that were automagically executed ... from the environment of safe, closed, local business network. They just expaned that "safe" business network support to include the internet ... but w/o any countermeasures for the anarchy of the internet.

offline, some m'soft people made the comment that they had found that up until relatively recently, public & business were upgrading to the latest release that contained needed new feature function ... and the m'soft business model became dependent on the revenue from everybody constantly upgrading. However, there was now a tipping point ... 95% of the people now had 95% of the feature/functions that they needed/wanted/used ... potentially representing major drop in revenue. At that point, the business had to somewhat shift to analogy with the 60s car market where marketing tried to convince people to upgrade to the latest shiny new model ... just because it was the latest and shiny.

The other issue was I was still fighting battle with some of the browsers supporting multiple A-record (list of ip-addresses to try ... instead of just the only/first ... which might have some sort of outage/connectivity at the moment). M'soft had hired some long time tcp/ip people and I could verify with them that IE shipped with multipe A-record support.

misc. past posts referencing that MDC at mascone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#45 Computer programming was all about:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#22 Why did TCP become popular ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#34 Next generation processor architecture?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#51 Specifying all biz rules in relational data
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#50 DOS C prompt in "Vista"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#18 Oddly good news week: Google announces a Caps library for Javascript
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008r.html#26 realtors (and GM, too!)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#43 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#36 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#9 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#40 The Great Cyberheist
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#49 Abhor, Retch, Ignite?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#50 IBM and the Computer Revolution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#58 IBM and the Computer Revolution
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#15 Identifying Latest zOS Fixes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#57 Are Tablets a Passing Fad?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#18 John R. Opel, RIP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#59 The lost art of real programming
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#81 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#93 Where are all the old tech workers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#68 Steve B sees what investors think
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#10 It's all K&R's fault
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#11 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#23 weird trivia

misc. posts posts mentioning multiple-A records:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#34 Mainframes & Unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#158 Uptime (was Re: Q: S/390 on PowerPC?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#164 Uptime (was Re: Q: S/390 on PowerPC?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#23 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#32 Buffer overflow
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#30 Round robin IS NOT load balancing (?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#8 Network separation using host w/multiple network interfaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#12 Network separation using host w/multiple network interfaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#24 Network separation using host w/multiple network interfaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#25 Network separation using host w/multiple network interfaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#55 What is the "name" of a system?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#21 Protocol stack - disadvantages (revision)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#5 Wildcard SSL Certificates
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#24 is a computer like an airport?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#39 What ever happened to Tandem and NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#15 30 hop limit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#67 SSL vs. SSL over tcp/ip
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#41 Windows: Monitor or CUSP?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#34 what does xp do when system is copying
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#67 what does xp do when system is copying
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#53 Why Is Less Than 99.9% Uptime Acceptable?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#60 Lack of bit field instructions in x86 instruction set because of patents ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#43 Status of Arpanet/Internet in 1976?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#76 towards https everywhere and strict transport security (was: Has there been a change in US banking regulations recently?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#24 A question about HTTPS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#9 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#64 Maintenance at two in the afternoon? On a Friday?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#14 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#68 PC/mainframe browser(s) was Re: 360/20, was 1132 printer history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#61 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#29 SNA vs TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#23 Commentary--time to build a more secure Internet

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Remember 3277?

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Remember 3277?
Date: 13 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#33 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#35 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#39 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#40 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#42 Remember 3277?

Iit works for me with chrome and firefox on linux ... both with & w/o javascript enabled.

try long way around ... try
http://web.archive.org
and enter the time URL "http://www.time.com/.../mag.../article/0,9171,977353,00.html"

you should get calendar dates from 2008 thru 2013. The dates in 2013 seem to give you the 1st paragraph and then ask you to logon ... the earliest date in 2008 (up thru 2010) seems to be fine for the first page ... and then 2-4 go to summary ... but you get the jist of it from the first page.

facebook rewrites the url ... to try and figure it out, you are just about forced to click ... but when you get there, time has redirected it ... if you use the redirected URL ... you get the summary and asking to log on. so lets see about
http://www.archive.org/
and then enter this (lets test to see if facebook leaves it alone or rewrites it: "www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html"

copy/paste the above into wayback machine ... it should give you capture dates going back to 2008 (click on the first capture date, wayback machine requires javascript to be enabled for select by capture date to work)

Note in the mid-80s, top executives were predicting IBM revenue would double (from something like $60M to $120M, mostly based on mainframe revenue). As part of that they had major internal construction activity to double mainframe product manufacturing capacity. You also saw a lot of "fast track" MBAs being rotated thru various executive positions ... apparently trying to increase the executive ranks to go along with increase in business (although various of the victim business units suffered from these "fast track" apprentice executives). However, the communication group stanglehold on datacenters was already starting to be felt ... and the reverse in the direction was starting to show (although pointing it out wasn't exactly career enhancing activity).

I use to sponsor John Boyd's briefings at IBM ... and still participate in various Boyd related or themed meetings. A frequent refrain is the military is always preparing for the last war. One of the examples is that Boyd is credited with the battle plan for Desert Storm ... the Army was preparing for a huge tank slug fest until last tank standing (they spent the 70s&80s preparing for massive tank slug fest with the soviets on the plains of Europe) ... when Boyd was brought in, in part to not do a slug fest and war of attrition. posts mentioning Boyd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

I've frequently commented that there was an enormous 3270 install base and then 3270 emulation was major factor in fueling the early IBM/PC sales. However, the communication group then had enormous (emulated dumb terminal) install base that it was trying to protect ... and wasn't able to adapt and move on.

During the FS period in the early 70s (was going to complete replace 370 and totally different), 370 efforts were being killed off (dearth of 370 products is credited with giving clone makers market foothold). When FS imploded there was made rush to get products back into the pipeline ... 303x & 3081 kicked off in parallel (3031 was 158 with new covers, 3032 was 168 with new covers, 3033 was 168 design mapped to 20% faster chips). When 3033 out the door, the 3033 engineers immediately start on 3090 (overlapped with 3081). posts mentioning FS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

The foreign auto import quotas were supposedly to minimize competition and give US makers enormous profits to completely remake themselves ... however they didn't, just pocketed the money and continued business as usual. In the early 80s there was call for 100% unearned profit tax on the industry.

In 1990, the industry had the C4 taskforce ... to look (finally?) at completely remake themselves. Because they planned on making heavy use of technology, several technology vendors were asked to send members to participate. In the meetings they could accurately describe competition and what the US industry needed to do to respond. One of the issues was that they took 7-8yrs to come out with new model ... and tended to run two efforts in parallel offset 3-4 years ... so they came out with something new every couple years (with cosmetic changes in between). The foreign competition had cut that process time in half and were in the process of cutting it in half again (heading for less than year for being able to do complete change if needed for market/technology). Offline at the meetings, I commented to the POK mainframe brethren that how could they expect to contribute since they had many of the same problems.

Note that recent auto bailouts show that they still weren't able to change. posts mentioning C4 taskforce
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

The management people at GM that showed up ... understood all the issues (and results were presented to the top executives) ... it was something like the communication group and protecting their large emulated dumb terminal install base ... there were lots of parties that had vested interest in the existing status quo ... and were looking to preserve it for as long as possible.

With regard to desert storm ... there are couple writeups on tank battles involving a couple hundred allied tanks with no casualties ... referring to how much superior the allies tank combat was. However, in the GAO report on the effectiveness of the desert storm air campaign (before the ground war started), there were several footnotes that the Iraqis were walking away from their tanks because they were sitting ducks (mostly A10s & 30mm DU shells, also most cost effective, million 30mm DU shells @$13.) ... in the subsequent heroic tank battles they fail to mention whether the Iraqi tanks had anybody home.

Another example is sometime in the 80s or at least 90s, major manufactures (not just auto industry) started redoing their books and moving profit from the manufacturing to financial services ... nearly all the auto profit came from the loan on the car, the building of a car was made to look close to break even. The issue was building a car had some amount of labor costs while financial was almost labor free, almost all computerized. Sometime in the early part of the century, the CFO at one of the US automakers was about to retire ... and arranged to sell the financial arm (where most of the profit was booked) ... because he would get a big bonus for the (one time revenue) sale.

The most recent gimmick goes one better. US equipment makers used to sell & ship directly to US distributors. The change has US equipment makers still shipping directly to US distributors ... but the sale goes thru a (subsidiary) reseller at mail drop in Luxembourg which then sells to the US distributor. The sale to the subsidiary in Luxembourg is close to cost with the markup happening between the Luxembourg reseller and the US distributor (and they've cut special deal with Luxembourg for near zero tax rate). This has a lot more on the Luxembourg deals:
http://www.icij.org/project/luxembourg-leaks

These deals started out as negotiating gimmick with labor but has expanded to include taxes.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 14:03:22 -0700
--text follows this line-- hancock4 writes:

The various local and long distance phone carriers certainly DID learn from "free local calls" as at that time, they were expanding flat rate local calling areas and expanding flat rate toll service as well. Actually, as improved technology lowered costs, the carriers had been passing the savings to customers all along.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#29 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

just before communication group was fabricating misinformation for internal corporate consumption that it could do t1, tcp/ip, nsfnet backbone, etc ... it was did an analysis for the executive committee that customers wouldn't need/want T1 until sometime into the 90s.

In HSDT (supporting T1 and faster links)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

we were having some equpment built on the other side of the pacific. Friday before I was to take a trip over to look at it ... somebody in the communication group distributed an announcement for new online "high-speed" discussion group with the following definitions:

low-speed: 9.6kbit medium speed: 19.2kbit, high speed: 56kbit, very high speed: 1.5mbits.



Next monday on conference room wall on the other side of the pacific:

low speed <20mbits, medium speed 100mbits, high-speed 200-300mbits, very high speed 500-600mbits.



The problem with communication group was their main product 37x5 boxes didn't have T1 support, it only went up to 56kbit links. Their analysis involved customer use of 37x5 "fat pipes" ... supporting multiple, parallel 56kbit links as single logical link. By 5 or 6 links, customer use had dropped to zero. What they didn't know or bother to say was that telco tariff for T1 was around the same as five 56kbit links. We did trivial customer survey finding 200 customers with T1 links, which they were using with non-IBM boxes (aka, customers needing more than equivalent of 4-5 56kbit/sec capacity, would jump direclty to full T1 but couldn't be supported with IBM box; which is why they didn't "see" more than 5-link "fat pipes").

As stop-gap, The communication group eventually comes out with 3737 for supporting T1 links ... had bunch of 68k processors and loads of memory. It simulated local channel-to-channel connection to the local host, immediatly doing ACK (as if the RU had already arrived at the remote end). The issue was that the intense host SNA/VTAM protocol chatter had lots of latency ... and had very low effective throughput over terrestrial T1 connections. The 3737 would spoof the local SNA/VTAM host and then use much more efficient protocol to talk to 3737 at the more end (which would again spoof a CTCA connection to remote VTAM/SNA host). However, all the spoofing took significant processing and even with multiple 68Ks had effective peak aggregate throughput of 2mbits/sec. A full-duplex T1 has aggregate 3mbits/sec capacity, and an EU full-duplex T1 has aggregate 4mbits/sec capacity.

old email discussing 3737:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880130
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email880606
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#email881005

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 08:28:03 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

The reverse of the uproar when IBM started charging for software. "Why should I have to pay for something you used to give away for free???"



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#29 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#47 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

legal actions; 23jun69 unbundling announcement ... charging for (application) software, SE services, etc ... but they managed to make the case that they could still make kernel software available for free ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

This resulted in problem for SE training which use to be sort of apprentice as part of large group onsite at customer's datacenter ... they couldn't figure out how to *NOT* charge for those SEs in-training. This gave rise to the (virtual machine) CP67-based HONE datacenters ... giving SEs in branch offices online "Hands On Network Environment" for practicing with "guest" operating systems (in virtual machines). some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

The science center had also ported apl\360 to cp67/cms as cms\apl. HONE group started doing APL-based sales&marketing support tools made available on HONE ... which came to dominate all activity (and the guest operating system practice dwindled away). Some science center posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

Then Future System effort in the early 70s was going to completely replace 360/370 (and totally different) ... and internal politics were killing off 370 effort. The sparcity of 370 products during this period is credited with giving clone processors a market foothold. Then when FS imploded ... there was made rush to get stuff back into the 370 stuff back into product pipelines. some FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

After FS along with the rise of clone processors, the decision was changed to start charging for kernel software. Starting with transition where new software was packaged separately for pricing as addons to free kernel software.

During the FS period I continued to work on 360/370 stuff (and even periodically ridiculed the FS activity which wasn't exactly a career enhancing activity) ... some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430

the FS implosion mad rush contributed to decision to release some of my stuff as part of the next 370 release. Other parts of it was selected for packaging as separately priced kernel add-on ... initial guinea pig for pricing ... and I got to spend some amount of time with the lawyers and business people on kernel pricing policy. It was released as "resource manager" ... some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#fairshare

Eventually by the early 80s, they completed the transition and was charging for all kernel software ... then was the transition to "Object Code Only" ... no longer making the source available ... and what customers referred to the OCO-wars ... trying to convince IBM to continue to make source available. This was especially traumatic for (virtual machine) VM370/CMS customers since there was a long tradition of not only shipping source, but also providing all maintenance/changes in source form (dating back to cp67/cms days).

past posts mentioning OCO-wars
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#57 IPCS Standard Print Service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#34 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#15 Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#15 Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#6 Open z/Architecture or Not
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html#8 Open z/Architecture or Not
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#42 VM/370 Release 6 Waterloo tape (CIA MODS)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#72 Linux versioning file system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#0 Timeline: The evolution of online communities
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#48 Timeline: 40 Years Of Unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#7 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#49 "Portable" data centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#17 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#19 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#20 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#22 Personal use z/OS machines was Re: Multiprise 3k for personal Use?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#30 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#65 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#67 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#1 Honoree pedigrees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#15 Age
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#30 Philosophy: curiousity question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#87 The first personal computer (PC)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#56 The real cost of outsourcing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#75 pdp8 to PC- have we lost our way?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#7 Do you remember back to June 23, 1969 when IBM unbundled
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#17 Got to remembering... the really old geeks (like me) cut their teeth on Unit Record
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#33 Data Areas?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#58 An approach to Dump formatting of Control Blocks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#20 Operating System, what is it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#30 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#31 How smart do you need to be to be really good with Assembler?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#79 Slackware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#62 Any cool anecdotes IBM 40yrs of VM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#63 Is it possible to hack mainframe system??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#26 New HD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#66 model numbers; was re: World's worst programming environment?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#55 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30 years ago today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#45 the nonsuckage of source, was MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#19 the suckage of MS-DOS, was Re: 'Free Unix!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#5 "F[R]eebie" software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#35 BBC News - Microsoft fixes '19-year-old' bug with emergency patch
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#84 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#85 a bit of hope? What was old is new again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#19 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#14 3033 & 3081 question

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 08:36:40 -0700
hancock4 writes:

But some companies have managed to deal with a changing world and still maintain their strength. Historically, IBM successfully managed the transition between tabulating machines and electronic computers, later, the transition between bundled and a la carte sales, and still later the transition from specialty item to mass commodity. (Gerstner wrote an interesting book on how he turned IBM around.)



but stranglehold that communication group had on mainframe datacenters with corporate stratigic ownership of everything that crossed the datacenter walls ... and was fighting off distributed computing and client/server trying to preserve (emulated) dumb terminal install base ... this was major factor to IBM going into the red in the early 90s.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal

Late Dec1992 about "IBM left behind" ... and had been reorganized into the "13 baby blues" in preparation for breakup ... gone behind paywall but lives free (for the moment) at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20101120231857/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html

then the board brings in former president of AMEX that resurrects the company and reverses the breakup ... some past refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#29 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#47 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#48 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 12:05:53 -0700
"Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> writes:

Ob computers and folklore: This brings me back to the third point, something that I have been stewing about for some time. Are you aware of any long-distance architecture from that period that could have evolved into today's web? Just to add some specificity, let's define today's web as one million geographically-dispersed display screens, each drawing static (cacheable) and dynamic (custom generated) data via [wideband switched bursty data links, e.g. TCP.]



at '88 IETF meeting ... van jacaboson (that did tcp slow-start) did talk on how much processing required to route for cross-country 1gbit link ... he had reduced reduced minimum instructions for routing from something like 110 instructions to 70-something ... was approaching a BIP for just the routing for one such link (for minimum size packets, 1/10th that for number of avg. sized packets) ... in the days when processors were in the 20-40mip range ... aka bandwidth was increasing faster than processing power. He was calculating capacity of router with 20mip processor ... @75instructions per packet routing ... 266,667 packets/sec (TCP has minimum of 7 packet exchange for session).

early web, mid-90s there was crisis with HTTP-over-TCP. TCP implementations assumed long-lived sessions, HTTP was supposedly atomic/datagram ... but implemented on top of TCP anyway. That drove the number of the TCP FINWAIT list (TCP close) to several thousands. The original linear search looking for arriving dangling packets for recently closed sessions started to hit 90+ percent of server processor ... was activity started to grow. There was nearly six month period before FINWAIT was reworked and deployed. In the interim operations were looking at adding large number of servers and adding code to internet boundary routers to do load balancing acorss backend servers.

The original google load balancing scaleup started off with rotating A-list ... to try and randomize backend switch backend IP-addresses (problem was that ISPs cached DNS responses ... so rotating A-list had minimal impact).

Then some guys I had been working with got tasked by google to implement new code in the google CISCO boundary routers ... the pool of boundary routers would exchange backend server loading information ... and attempt load-balance routing incoming sessions ... across (rapidly growing number of) back-end servers.

It is enormously more sophisticated now, multiple mega-datacenters spread around the world, a mega-datacenter with hundreds of thousands of systems and millions of processors (for backend servers).

past posts mentioning TCP FINWAIT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#1 Early tcp development?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#164 Uptime (was Re: Q: S/390 on PowerPC?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#52 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#3 The demise of compaq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#14 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#39 CDC6600 - just how powerful a machine was it?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#45 M$ SMP and old time IBM's LCMP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#12 Possible to have 5,000 sockets open concurrently?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#33 A Speculative question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#50 Question about Unix "heritage"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004m.html#46 Shipwrecks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#70 [Lit.] Buffer overruns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005g.html#42 TCP channel half closed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#13 RFC 2616 change proposal to increase speed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#21 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#36 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#33 X.509 and ssh
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#2 Hey! Keep Your Hands Out Of My Abstraction Layer!
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#37 Curiosity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#11 What part of z/OS is the OS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#38 Problem with TCP connection close
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#28 Yet another squirrel question - Results (very very long post)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#36 Making tea
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#7 IBM in Talks to Buy Sun
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#76 Tiny-traffic DoS attack spotlights Apache flaw
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#44 Follow up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#62 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#51 Has there been a change in US banking regulations recently?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#9 The IETF is probably the single element in the global equation of technology competition than has resulted in the INTERNET
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#11 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#6 Founders of SSL Call Game Over?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#20 Writing article on telework/telecommuting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#89 False Start's sad demise: Google abandons noble attempt to make SSL less painful
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#15 Can anybody give me a clear idea about Cloud Computing in MAINFRAME ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#83 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013h.html#8 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#46 OT: "Highway Patrol" back on TV
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#48 Google takes on Internet Standards with TCP Proposals, SPDY standardization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#13 Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#26 There Is Still Hope
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#76 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#2 Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 16:31:40 -0700
hancock4 writes:

If telecom mgmt was so backward-looking, that we'd still be using magneto (hand cranked) phones. No dial, no Touch Tone, no ESS, no microwave, mobile phones, cheap long distance, overseas cables, or satellites.



there were references to "telephone toads" in the 70s & 80s ... people stuck in copper wires, analog, high error rates, etc. ... the claims was that the "telephone toads" played a major role in OSI model also ... little digital, FEC, crypto, etc.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 09:03:37 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:

Yep. They are now designed and manufactured in the Castle Bromwich factory in Birmingham (where my mother used ot build Spitfires!). The V6 engine is a modified Ford, but the V8 is Jaguar. Body etc. is all Jaguar.



last weekend (at the last in the "battle of britain" series, the spitfire & hurricane went up and did several flyovers together.
http://historicflight.org/hf/

today opens the summer paine field demonstration flying season. also includes (Paul Allen's) flying heritage on opposite of the runway:
http://www.flyingheritage.com/

in Winston S. Churchill: Finest Hour, 1939-1941 (Volume VI), reference to moved production of Rolls Royce engines to US; loc7441-44:

from above:

The second decision on May 21 which concerned United States supplies was on the question of whether to give publicity to the current production of Rolls Royce aeroplane engines in the United States. 'What do Air Ministry say?' Churchill minuted three days later, and after discussing the question with Beaverbrook, agreed that secrecy should be maintained.


... snip ...

past posts in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#29 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#47 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#48 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#49 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#50 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#51 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 09:21:13 -0700
last night PBS ran S8E1 of "Foyle's War" ... titled high castle.

One of the points made in "battle of britain" series was that the British and German fighters were relatively matched ... with both having some PROs and CONs. One of the British PROs was they had high octaine aircraft fuel (resulting in higher horse power) and the Germans didn't. The theme of the episode was americans helping germany before and during the war (somewhat the John Foster Dulles case).

In this episode, it is after the war and Nuremburg trials were going on and the head of large American international oil company was killing off people that had evidence they helped Germany during the war. The "high castle" case was one of their plants in Britain was manufacturing the additive to boost octaine for aircraft fuel. They had filled shipload of "high castle" liqueur barrels for shipment to the US. However the ship stops at Tenerife where the barrels were offloaded and loaded on German ship.

recent past posts mentiong John Foster Dulles and Germany:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#19 UK government plans switch from Microsoft Office to open source
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#35 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#36 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#26 channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#13 Keydriven bit permutations
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#71 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#86 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#45 The Battle of Bretton Woods: John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the Making of a New World Order
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#51 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#54 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers?

past posts in thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#27 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#29 Mexico, was: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#30 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#41 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#43 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#45 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#47 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#48 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#49 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#50 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#51 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#52 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
Date: 16 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
http://billmoyers.com/2015/05/14/jeb-bush-adviser-scare/
The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/jeb-bush-adviser-paul-wolfowitz

lets go back a little further
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

there are (at least) 2 versions of the story: 1) they needed to replace CIA director Colby (who disagreed with "Team B") with somebody that would go along with the "Team B" analysis or 2) Rumsfeld was attempting to sidetrack a competitor in the the Republican party (or both #1 and #2).

Note that the $50B claimed cost for Iraq war (could be $5T before all is said and done, 100 times larger) based on fabricated WMDs ... they did eventually find decommissioned WMDs from the 80s that originated in the US ... but the information was classified at the time
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

last decade, cousin of white house chief of staff Card ... was dealing with the Iraqis at the UN and was given evidence that WMDs had been decommissioned, about to make it public, gets locked up in military hospital .... "EXTREME PREJUDICE-- The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq"
http://www.amazon.com/EXTREME-PREJUDICE-Terrifying-Story-Patriot-ebook/dp/B004HYHBK2/

Card's cousin documents how she provided detailed, written evidence to her (white house chief of staff) cousin, Powell and several others before getting locked up in military hospital.

Team B was also involved in supplying Saddam with weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
including WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war
replacement CIA director then is VP ... at one point claims no knowledge of such activities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260
and
http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm
more recent:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/12/jeb-bush-forest-gump-financial-improprieties.html
then there is also "Keating Five"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
one of the targets of "Keating Five"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_K._Black

Sat. photo recon analyst warns that Iraq is marshaling forces for Kuwait invasion; administration says that Saddam told them he would do no such thing ... and proceeds to discredit the analyst. Later, analyst then warns that Iraq is marshaling forces for Saudi invasion ... now the administration is forced to choose between Iraq and Saudi.
http://www.amazon.com/Long-Strange-Journey-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004NNV5H2/

Later after 9/11, administration prevented families of 9/11 victims from suing Saudi Arabia as responsible for 9/11. More recently that has changed and the 9/11 victim families were allowed to sue Saudi Arabia as responsible (some claims that fracking had changed oil politics and made US less dependent on Saudi Arabia). "9/11 Families 'Ecstatic' They Can Finally Sue Saudi Arabia"
http://news.yahoo.com/9-11-families-39-ecstatic-39-finally-sue-222121660--abc-news-topstories.html

There still is battle over the classified 28 pages in the 9/11 report (numerous references it provides details/evidence of Saudi Arabia responsibility).

past posts mentioning "Team B"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#team.b
past posts mentioning miltiary-indusrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

past posts mentioning families of 9/11 victims being allowed to sue Saudi's for 9/11 responsibility
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#51 U.S. Sidelined as Iraq Becomes Bloodier
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#83 NSA surveillance played little role in foiling terror plots, experts say
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#11 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#13 Al-Qaeda-linked force captures Fallujah amid rise in violence in Iraq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#42 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#99 Reducing Army Size
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#103 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#4 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#11 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#14 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#89 Difference between MVS and z / OS systems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#51 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#64 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#72 George W. Bush: Still the worst; A new study ranks Bush near the very bottom in history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#27 What were the complaints of binary code programmers that not accept Assembly?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#73 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#78 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:16:16 -0700
greymausg <maus@mail.com> writes:

From memory, it was the usage of good error correcting protocols that transformed computer communications over ordinary phone lines. I remember being told of a test that a company did to connect London and their branch in Edinborough, the errors were significent enough for the practice being abandoned.



IBM controllers had CRC for detection. There was infamous problem at Cornell when they put in microwave modems that used the same CRC for spreading bits as 37x5 used for error detection. The combination interacted in such a way that transmission errors weren't being detected.

much of the problem of sna/vtam and 37x5 boxes and supporting higher speed was the design point was for fairly noisy and high error rate copper and stop&restart on error ... which also contributed to only allowing a few number of outstanding, unacknowledged RUs ... which resulted that it had very difficult time being able to effectively use higher bandwidth links (because latency and propagation starts to dominate, and larger amount of outstanding data is needed for latency compensation).

recent mention of sna/vtam in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#44 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#47 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

other recent mention:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#95 56kbit modems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#43 Connecting memory to 370/145 with only 36 bits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#2 Knowledge Center Outage May 3rd
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#21 Dot What?

in HSDT was doing FEC and selective resend (of just uncorrectable packet) ... assumes more sophisticated handling on both ends ... instead of something designed for dumb terminals in high error rate environment. posts mentioning HSDT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

there was both reed-solomon encoding and viterbi for FEC. we had an IBM engineer who had been reed's graduate student at caltech and had done much of the work on reed-solomon. We were also working with cyclotomics (one of the founders was UCB professor), cyclotomics had done much of the reed-solomon work for CDROM standard. Cyclotomics had come up with design that did 15/16s reed-solomon FEC encoding that could get six orders of magnitude improvement (on 10**-9 bit error rate would look like 10**-15 BER, what was spec'ed for IBM mainframe channels) ... and then for selective resend (on uncorrectable error ), send the half-rate Viterbi (for the original packet, rather than the original packet) ... then even if both the original packet *AND* the resend transmission were in error, it was still highly likely it could be recovered from the two. Then if the line quality degraded further ... switch to transmitting the half-rate viterbi with the original packet (cuts the effective rate in half, but eliminates the latency; none of this available/possible in their early 70s 37x5 design).

trivia: 17Apr, garlic.com changed their webserver, I still working out how to update my personal pages, so recent archived refs have yet to show up.

past posts mentioning Cyclotomics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#1 4M pages are a bad idea (was Re: AMD 64bit Hammer CPU and VM)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#53 Free Desktop Cyber emulation on PC before Christmas
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#27 shirts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#37 Why doesn't Infiniband supports RDMA multicast
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#43 360 longevity, was RISCs too close to hardware?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005n.html#27 Data communications over telegraph circuits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#29 Just another example of mainframe costs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#4 Even worse than UNIX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#82 folklore indeed
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#19 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#23 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#61 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#66 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#46 Follow up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#0 Anyone going to Supercomputers '09 in Portland?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#58 DASD, Tape and other peripherals attached to a Mainframe
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#33 SNA vs TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#75 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 Terabytes on a tape
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#68 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#9 Fwd: [sqlite] presentation about ordering and atomicity of filesystems

other posts mentioning reed-solomon &/or viterbi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/93.html#28 Log Structured filesystems -- think twice
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#115 What is the use of OSI Reference Model?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#210 AES cyphers leak information like sieves
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000c.html#38 Does the word "mainframe" still have a meaning?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#80 Disks size growing while disk count shrinking = bad performance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#71 Encryption + Error Correction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#53 Mainframers: Take back the light (spotlight, that is)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#3 Calculations involing very large decimals
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003j.html#73 1950s AT&T/IBM lack of collaboration?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004h.html#11 Mainframes (etc.)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005k.html#25 The 8008
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005r.html#52 Go-Back-N protocol?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005t.html#50 non ECC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#44 waiting for acknowledgements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#45 waiting for acknowledgements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#62 Damn
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#79 big iron mainframe vs. x86 servers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#26 Tapes versus vinyl
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#23 Program Work Method Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#58 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#60 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#69 Is the magic and romance killed by Windows (and Linux)?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#65 Hamming Code
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#102 Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising application security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#31 SNA vs TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#34 SNA vs TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#98 After the Sun (Microsystems) Sets, the Real Stories Come Out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#9 Fwd: [sqlite] presentation about ordering and atomicity of filesystems

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:35:47 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

IBM controllers had CRC for detection. There was infamous problem at Cornell when they put in microwave modems that used the same CRC for spreading bits as 37x5 used for error detection. The combination interacted in such a way that transmission errors weren't being detected.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#55 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

long detailed discussion of the problem ... from the vmshare archives:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=CRC-FAIL&ft=PROB

from above:

Append on 08/21/86 at 10:05 by CUN/Nick Gimbrone <NJG@CORNELLA.BITNET>:

Our hardware people here at Cornell have been talking with the folks at General Instruments (who make the 9.6kb RF broad band modems that we are using most heavily) about our problems. It would appear from examination of their circuit diagrams that it is indeed the case that the scrambling circuits used are exactly a CRC16 polynomial. I am told that this allows even a single bit error to show up as the 4+ bit errors reported earlier. The GI folks are performing further investigations of their own before responding to our situation.



... snip ...

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

email security re: hotmail.com

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: email security re: hotmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 08:54:59 -0700
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

Nearly all ISPs have dropped USENET services, but that doesn't stop anyone from using the likes of giganews and eternal-september, or even running their own if they have enough bandwidth.



pagesat (paging devices signaled from sat) offered full 9.6kbit (satellite) usenet feed in the early 90s ... later they had to update it to 19.2kbit. I got free installation for writing a couple drivers and coauthered boardwatch mag. article. I hosted files on ms/dos "waffle" bulletin board. i've previously posted picture of me in backyard with original 9.6kbit dish
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#oldpicts

usenet bandwidth camed to be dominated with gif porn and there was filtering of binary/non-text files.

past posts mentioning pagesat driver and boardwatch article:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#38 Vanishing Posts...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#39 I'll Be! Al Gore DID Invent the Internet After All ! NOT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#66 UUCP email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#16 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#20 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#11 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#77 Memory Mapped Vs I/O Mapped Vs others
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#17 What if phone company had developed Internet?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#16 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#19 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#19 Another one bites the dust
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#21 Disksize history question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#84 Anyone going to Supercomputers '09 in Portland?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#74 bulletin board
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#75 Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#70 What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#82 [OT] What is the protocal for GMT offset in SMTP (e-mail) header time-stamp?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#92 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#26 Anyone here run UUCP?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#38 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 10:48:41 -0700
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:

Yes, the French 75mm. Rapid fire could be more easily sustained than other howitzers of the time. It kept its aim.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#50 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#51 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#52 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#53 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#55 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#56 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

The Plan That Broke the World: The "Schlieffen Plan" and World War I (What Were They Thinking? Book 2) (William O'Neil) loc823-29:

Loading drill with French 75. It was France that revolutionized artillery with the introduction at the end of the 1890s of the Canon de 75 model 1897, a light field gun with a 75 mm (3 in) bore. It was the first cannon with a mechanism (broadly similar in principle to the hydro-pneumatic shock absorber and spring combination of a car) for absorbing the momentum of recoil and returning the barrel smoothly to its original position while the gun carriage stayed still. Combined with a semiautomatic breech mechanism that opened and kicked out the spent shell casing as the gun recoiled, this made it possible to fire 15 well-aimed rounds per minute, each weighing 16 pounds. A practiced crew could fire at a rate of 20 rounds per minute for brief periods.



but: The Four Generations of Modern War (William S. Lind) loc117-21:

The new battlefield is dominated by indirect artillery fire. 80 percent of the casualties in WWI on the Western Front are to artillery fire. Almost all of that is indirect. Previously you'd really only seen indirect artillery fire in sieges. All the new guns, the French 75, the German 77, are all designed for direct fire. But they quickly figure out that if you put the gun behind a hill and send a guy out front with a telephone who can observe and correct the fire, you're much less likely to lose the gun.

loc151-54:
The French heritage is not simply tactical. When the French Second Generation seems to work, and again, it seems to work right up to May of 1940, it comes as an enormous relief to officers everywhere because it preserves the First Generation culture of order. Like the First Generation, a Second Generation military is inward-focused, rules, processes, orders, procedures, it's war by process.

loc248-50:
What changes in 1940 is the Panzer divisions now can move forward operationally faster than the French can shift their reserves laterally by rail. The operational mobility differential favors the attacker rather than the defender. Because for six weeks, in May 1940, the Second and Third Generations meet head on.

and Certain to Win (Chet Richards) loc238-43:
What about the two sides' weapons? We sometimes assume that the German tanks were so superior that they swept the French from the field. Many people are surprised to learn that one for one, the French tanks were state of the art for the time.10 Germany, on the other hand, had suffered under a ban on tanks imposed by the allies from 1918 until Hitler's rise to power in 1933. Catching up proved slow, and she did not produce her first fully modern tank until 1939. German armies still had only 349 of this design by May 1940.11 In addition, France had a great advantage in artillery, which had been the main killer on the battlefield in the last war.

loc243-48:
That the Germans would attack surprised no one. Both Britain and France had declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939, two days after the German attack on Poland, and so had eight months to get ready. Likewise, it cannot be said that the German tactics were a surprise. They were a refinement of tactics the Germans had used in their last major offensive in the earlier war and had been studied by both French and British strategists between the wars. As for terrain, the French could read a map and knew about conditions in the Ardennes Forest and the network of narrow roads that traversed it.

loc253-57:
To summarize the Allies' position, they knew an attack was coming, and they knew where it was coming--in the 200-mile gap between the Maginot Line and the English Channel. In this area, they had about the same number of troops as their enemy, and this in an era when one was supposed to need a three-to-one advantage in order to mount a successful attack. Most amazing of all, the French had even foreseen the possibility that the Germans would attack where they actually did, and they had prepared an answer for it

... snip ...

Semi-related "Member of Fighter Mafia Passes"
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/military-people-and-their-ideas/2015/member-of-fighter-mafia-passes.html

I got to meet some number of these people having met John Boyd and sponsored his briefings at IBM ... some past posts (& web URLs):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html

I've mentioned before that circa 1990, the commandant of the Marine Corps had leveraged Boyd for make-over of the corp.

somewhat related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#10 Jedi Knights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#16 Command Culture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#38 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#55 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#66 Salesmen--IBM and Coca Cola
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#76 In the palm of your hand?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#86 Can America Win Wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#98 How to groom a leader?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#91 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#34 upcoming TV show, "Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#52 EBFAS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#61 Are you tired of the negative comments about IBM in this community?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#49 LEO

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:49:35 -0700
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

And long before Stallman, there was Share, DECUS and CUBE.



as per previous post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#48 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

legal actions forced 23jun169 unbundling announcement ... starting to charge for (application) software, se services, etc (although company managed to make case that kernel software could still be free)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle

there was user contributed (free) softwrae for the SHARE library ... but there was also the (free user contributed) "WATERLOO" tape. At one point somebody did analysis of WATERLOO tape and found nearly 300k lines of code of kernel modifications/enhancements ... and also found a very large similarity/overlap with similar library of corporate internal datacenter kernel changes (which weren't being picked up and shipped in the standard product). Large body of source changes to standard product contributed to the OCO-wars (no longer support source maintenance and shipping source).

1987 item on OCO in the vmshare archive:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=OCOOCMPR&ft=NOTE

trying to categorize product software by:


Program Products and the their Code Status
Type Legend:
?     Unknown
S     Source Maintained
OCO   Object Code Only
OCM   Object Code Maintained
SOM   Partially Source, partially OCO, and partially OCM
SO    Partially Source and partially OCO
SM    Partially Source and partially OCM

... snip ...

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Why Today's Automobile Industry Looks A Lot Like IBM in 1985

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Why Today's Automobile Industry Looks A Lot Like IBM in 1985
Date: 18 May 2015
Blog: Google+
re:
https://plus.google.com/+LynnWheeler/posts/4BVe15bx9tg

Why Today's Automobile Industry Looks A Lot Like IBM in 1985
http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/17/why-todays-automobile-industry-looks-a-lot-like-ibm-in-1985/

The foreign auto import quotas were supposedly to minimize competition and give US makers enormous profits to completely remake themselves ... however they didn't, just pocketed the money and continued business as usual. In the early 80s there was call for 100% unearned profit tax on the industry.

In 1990, the industry had the C4 taskforce ... to look (finally?) at completely remake themselves. Because they planned on making heavy use of technology, several technology vendors were asked to send members to participate. In the meetings they could accurately describe competition and what the US industry needed to do to respond. One of the issues was that they took 7-8yrs to come out with new model ... and tended to run two efforts in parallel offset 3-4 years ... so they came out with something new every couple years (with cosmetic changes in between). The foreign competition had cut that process time in half and were in the process of cutting it in half again (heading for less than year for being able to do complete change if needed for market/technology). Offline at the meetings, I commented to the IBM POK mainframe brethren that how could they expect to contribute since they had many of the same problems. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#auto.c4.taskforce

From the recent bailouts, too many stakeholders in the status quo still have prevented change.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 17:54:02 -0700
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:

That's variable. Most modems did come with software, often touting some feature unique to it. But the split came earlier. There was a time before Hayes introduced the AT command set. Before that controlling a modem did vary with the modem, and sometimes meant physical switches. But after the AT command set became common, software was generally software, except if one company wanted to promote some "special" feature to separate it from the pack.



mid-90s financial industry conferences had presentations on why the (consumer) dial-up banking was moving to the internet. Consumer dial-up banking were proprietary systems ... typical operation claimed to have library of over 60 drivers ... for different operating systems, different operating system versions, and different modems. They were also all serial port ... there was enormous consumer support costs associated with all the different possible combinations ... as well as all sort of interactions because of serial port comflicts. Effectively all of these costs get offloading onto ISP (which could spread the overhead costs across all possible online applications).

some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#dialup-banking

at the same time, the online dial-up commercial cash management operations claimed they would *NEVER* move to the internet because of long list of vulnerabilities (some of which continue to this day).

trivia ... around the turn of the century, security issues were heating up and financial industry was working on number of hardware (chip) tokens that would improve authentication. These were chip cards ... similar to the payment cards that recently been having chips added to them. the issue was that they had to deploy consumer card readers to work with the chips.

One of major institutions apparently got a firesale on obsolete serial port cardreaders and were distributing them free to their consumers. The the consumer support woes began (including wiping machines and having to do fresh operating system install). The troubles were so bad that it killed the program and created rapidly spreading rumor in the industry that chipcards weren't practical in the consumer market (effectively killing off all the other strong authentication hardware token programs).

My wife ran a joint review with the m'soft security people, m'soft PC/SC people, and a couple of the financial operations ... which determined that the problems were because of the serial-port readers (all the institutional knowledge about serial-port problems from the dail-up banking programs had apparently evaportated over period of 4-5 yrs). Also the serial-port problems were also a major motivation behind USB (and advent of USB was what had made the serial-port readers obsolete). We tried to mount an educational program about the true reasons behind failure, consumer support problems, and the free give away of (serial-port) readers ... but it wasn't able to overcome the industry impression that chipcards weren't practical in the consumer market (i.e. use with consumer devices, as opposed to use of chipcards with point-of-sale termainl).

following the implosion of secure consumer chipcards ... there were a number of non-chip safe internet products developed (as alternative) ... which were pitched to major online merchants (accounting for something like 70% of transactions). merchants had been indoctrinated for decades that electronic payment interchange fees are heavily prorated based on associated fraud rate (... with internet transactions falling into the highest category). They had assumed that these new "safe" products would cut the interchange fees by something like 90%. Then the cognitive dissonance sets in, rather than cutting the interchange fees ... they would told they would have to pay effectively the highest fee they were already paying plus a surcharge. At that point the various efforts collapse (analogous to how consuemr chipcard efforts collapse).

other trivia with regard to the current chips starting to appear in the US for point-of-sale ... there was a large pilot deployment in the us (also) around the turn of the century. However, it was in the "yes card" period ... presentation at ATM Integrity Task Force meeting by gov. LEO prompted somebody in the audience to exclaim that they managed to spend billions of dollars to prove that chips are less secure than magstripe. Reference to presentation on the vulnerabilities in this trip report to Cartes2002 (at very end) ... gone 404 but lives on at wayback machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417083810/http://www.smartcard.co.uk/resources/articles/cartes2002.html

All evidence of the large pilot then appears to evaporate w/o a trace and speculation that it would be a long time before it was tried again in the US (let other jurisdictions be the trial&error guinea pigs).

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

disclaimer: in parallel with the original card associations work on chip card for point-of-sale, I worked on protocol, standard, and chip design that 1) had none of their shortcomings, 2) had significantly higher security, and 3) cost significantly less. The problem was that it would have commoditized the payment industry ... which would have significantly impacted their revenue stream. related refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959
and
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

post-script: the online commercial cash-management services eventually did move from dial-up to internet ... and have encountered the exploits, vulnerabilities and security problems originally listed. There have been recommendations that commercial banking now have a dedicated PC system that is only used for online banking and *NEVER* used for any other purpose ... to semi-emulate the environemnt of the original dial-up banking operations.

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
Date: 19 May 2015
Blog: LinkedIn
Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/medicare-part-b-premiums-increasing-up-to-30-2015-05-11

so what happens when part b premiums are more than your social security benefits? In theory if Part B is going up 30% ... then your SS COLA should be 30%.

congress let fiscal responsibility act expire in 2002 (spending couldn't exceed revenue) ... 2010 CBO report had revenue reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T (compared to baseline fiscal responsibility act budget) for a $12T budget gap. In the middle of the last decade, comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for how badly they savaged the budget).

fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

The first major bill after fiscal responsibility act expired was medicare part-d which has been described as enormous gift to the drug industry and the comptroller general described as long term $40T unfunded mandate that comes to swamp all other budget items. CBS 60 mins did segment on the process, highlighting the 18 republican members of congress and staffers responsible. At the last minute they add a one liner to it that precluded competitive bidding. CBS shows drugs under medicare part-d that are three times the price of identical drugs from the VA (that allows competitive bidding). Also after the bill passes, CBS finds all 18 resign and are on drug industry payroll

medicare part-d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d

The looting of the SS Trust fund started in the 80s (attributed to the administration budget director at the time). Baby boomer/bubble is four times as large as the previous generation and twice as large as following generation. As long as baby boomers were working and paying into the SS trust fund, there was more money going in than going out ... aka building principal for when the baby boomers retired. However with the SS trust fund looting there is a $2.7T deficit ... and with the baby boomers retiring it will fall on the following generation (only half as large) to replenish what was looted.

There is joke about a bottom desk drawer somewhere in west virginia that contains the Federal IOUs for the $2.7T that are considered relatively worthless. There is lot of public spin attempting to obfuscation and misdirect away from those Federal IOUs and who is responsible.

recent posts mentioning SS trust fund
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:03:07 -0700
hancock4 writes:

As an aside, not long ago the newspaper reported that the airlines had great profits. In another article on the same day, they reported that the airlines were in court seeking to skip out on their pension obligations. While some people thinks that's just the "free market at work" (along with price gouging),



my periodic pontificating that a lot of business operations, partitioned their business and redid their books so that the employee intensive part look like break-even ... and all the profit shifted to part of business that had relatively few employees.

The auto industry, GE and others redid the books so that the profit was shifted to financial services part of the business.

Airline industry shifted their profit to computerized tickets ... i.e. actual airline operations was break-even or a loss ... but enormous profit in selling the tickets ... so the parent company could show significant profit even when the airline operations was showing loss. first time i noticed it was in the 90s where airline operations were blaming losses on fuel price increases ... but the parent company was still showing significant profit (profit from selling tickets more than offset the losses booked in the operation business).

As I've recently pointed out this has expanded to included taxes. US manufacturer use to sell and ship directly to local US distributers. They shift to selling to offshore (subsidiary) reseller (in tax haven where they've cooked deal for next to zero taxes) ... which then "sells" to the local distributers (it still ships directly to the diswtributers). The books are done so that the manufacturing unit sells to the offshore reseller at near cost ... and all the profit (selling to distributers) is booked in the tax haven. recent reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#8 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#52 Report: Tax Evasion, Avoidance Costs United States $100 Billion A Year
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#5 Swiss Leaks lifts the veil on a secretive banking system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#46 Remember 3277?

other past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

Manipulating/looting employee pension funds also comes up in private equity looting companies ... past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

AMEX was in competition with KKR for private equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

KKR runs into trouble with RJR and hires the president of AMEX away to turn it around. Then IBM has gone into the red and is being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breakup. The board then hires the former president of AMEX to resurrent the company and reverse the breakup. This has references to techniques used at both RJR and IBM
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml
in this book
http://www.retirementheist.com/
past posts mentioning former AMEX president
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

posts mentioning justifying offloading employee pensions on to government (including companies redoing their books so that employee intensive operations are showing loss and the profits are showing up in other parts of the operation)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#61 Health Care
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#91 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#65 As Expected, Ford Falls From 2nd Place in U.S. Sales
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#38 What do YOU call the # sign?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#13 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#20 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#24 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#46 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#77 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#94 Bankruptcy a reprieve for some companies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#41 It's a Banker's World
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#4 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#8 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#10 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#24 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#58 Wall Street is Taking Over America's Pension Plans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#90 Is IBM Suddenly Vulnerable To A Takeover?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#7 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#59 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:20:52 -0700
hancock4 writes:

IBM's System/360 was a revolution, but it a huge risk. While in the very end it was a success, it was a very rough road and a killer (several times literally) for IBM employees to perfect the hardware and software and get it out the door. While they made money, the cost in destroyed careers, lawsuits, etc., was enormous.

IBM attempted another revolution with Future System. Mr. Wheeler has written about that disaster. Not only did IBM waste tons of development money on a dead-end, it lost serious market share as it failed to keep up with competition.




Recent thread ... first the enormous success froze the company ... everybody trying to protect the status quo ... then the FS disaster further cast in concrete trying to protect/maintain the status quo (severely crippling ability to change and adapt) ... note I'm still having problem updating personal webpages at the new garlic.com webserver (switch-over 17Apr)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#33 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#35 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#39 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#40 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#42 Remember 3277?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#46 Remember 3277?

posts mentioning Future System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

This reference attributes purpose of FS trying to counter the clone controller makers ... making the interface between controllers and processor so complex that it would near impossible for clone controllers.
http://www.ecole.org/en/seances/CM07

from above (countermeasure to clone controllers)

IBM tried to react by launching a major project called the 'Future System' (FS) in the early 1970's. The idea was to get so far ahead that the competition would never be able to keep up, and to have such a high level of integration that it would be impossible for competitors to follow a compatible niche strategy. However, the project failed because the objectives were too ambitious for the available technology. Many of the ideas that were developed were nevertheless adapted for later generations. Once IBM had acknowledged this failure, it launched its 'box strategy', which called for competitiveness with all the different types of compatible sub-systems. But this proved to be difficult because of IBM's cost structure and its R&D spending, and the strategy only resulted in a partial narrowing of the price gap between IBM and its rivals


... snip ...

However, during the FS period, internal politics were killing of 370 efforts ... and the lack of 370 products is credited with giving clone processors/systems market foothold (not just clone controllers).

Somebody once made the comment that if any other computer company had wasted the money that went into the Future System disaster, they would no longer be in business.

disclaimer: as undergraduate in the 60s I worked on clone controller at the univ ... there was some writeup blaming four of us for (some part of) the clone controller business. some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:21:56 -0700
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

It seems so quaint, now that here in Canada we take chip & PIN for granted, to go to the States and watch the clock turn backwards when doing credit card purchases. Even on our trip to Scotland last summer we used chip & PIN and withdrew cash from ATMs in the smallest villages, while my wife popped a new SIM card into her phone and chatted everywhere (including home) for 6p a minute. Sigh...



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#61 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

a large pilot in the US is larger than a full-blown rollout in most other countries. The exploit for the "YES CARD" seemed so obvious that there was concern that there could be a whole sequence of vulnerabilities and the cost of multiple failing rollouts would be an enormous cost (let other countries be the guinea pig at much lower cost).

I had warned the people doing the rollout about the vulnerability ... but they were apparently so myopically focused on lost/stolen vulnerabilities they apparently weren't able to digest the description. Possibly only after it was actually in deployment and LEOs explaining the sequence and the enormous fraud hole in action ... that they pulled out.

An underlying problem was that the design addressed issue with expensive & availability of telco in Europe ... it effectively assumed that the chip would have no compromises and therefor they exported business rules and decisions into the chip. This allowed the chip to direct point-of-sale terminals to do offline transactions ... and not go online (basically able to batch single call for all transactions once a day or less). Once the crooks found how easy it was to actually counterfeit the chips ... then they could program their own business rules. The last ditch countermeasure to counterfeit magstripe is to deactivate the account so that transactions can no longer go through. In the counterfeit "YES CARD", the chip would always tell the point-of-sale terminal to do an offline transaction and the chip would always say the transaction was within the account credit limit and always approve the transaction (and the point-of-sale terminal wouldn't find out that the account had been turned off until much later). past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subintegrity.html#yescard

the other part of it was they still hadn't worked out the economics of eliminating most kinds of fraud ... as in the reference to the "safe" internet payment products. There was analysis the middle of last decade that EU financial institutions made less than 10% of their bottom line off payment fees ... while in the US it was 40-60% of their bottom line. Elimination of the straight fraud surchange could be a 90% hit to their payment fees ... they had to come up with some sort of transition to different payment fee structure to maintain their bottom line. In the mean time, they had to maintain the profit from the fraud rates (1/3 to 1/2 of their bottom line).

Also one of the things they did in the UK (and proposed in the US) was to change the regulations (in the US, REG-E) to shift the burden of proof from the institution and/or merchant to the user (instead of the institution having to prove that the user was at fault, the user had to prove that they weren't at fault). I was contacted by legal representative of somebody that was claiming that they hadn't used their chip card for an ATM cash withdrawl. The burden of proof was on the user to produce a video recording showing it wasn't them ... the financial institution had commented they weren't able to find their video recording (and besides it was now the user's responsibility).

past posts referring to "burden of proof":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#nonreput Sender and receiver non-repudiation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm6.htm#terror7 [FYI] Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay10.htm#72 Invisible Ink, E-signatures slow to broadly catch on
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#59 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#0 dual-use digital signature vulnerability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm18.htm#55 MD5 collision in X509 certificates
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm19.htm#33 Digital signatures have a big problem with meaning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm20.htm#0 the limits of crypto and authentication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm21.htm#35 [Clips] Banks Seek Better Online-Security Tools
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#14 Shifting the Burden - legal tactics from the contracts world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm23.htm#33 Chip-and-Pin terminals were replaced by "repairworkers"?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#60 crypto component services - is there a market?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm26.htm#63 Public key encrypt-then-sign or sign-then-encrypt?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm28.htm#38 The Trouble with Threat Modelling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#57 RealNames hacked. Firewall issues.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#34 does CA need the proof of acceptance of key binding ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#59 PKI/Digital signature doesn't work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#62 PKI/Digital signature doesn't work
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#69 Digital signature
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004i.html#17 New Method for Authenticated Public Key Exchange without Digital Certificates
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005e.html#41 xml-security vs. native security
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#6 Creating certs for others (without their private keys)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#11 Question about authentication protocols
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#26 How good is TEA, REALLY?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#42 Catch22. If you cannot legally be forced to sign a document etc - Tax Declaration etc etc etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006d.html#32 When *not* to sign an e-mail message?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#8 Beginner's Pubkey Crypto Question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#28 sizeof() was: The Perfect Computer - 36 bits?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#23 John W. Backus, 82, Fortran developer, dies
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#67 open source voting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#62 Solving password problems one at a time, Re: The password-reset paradox
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#52 Credit cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#71 Sophisticated cybercrooks cracking bank security efforts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#72 Why don't people use certificate-based access authentication?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#1 Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#3 Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#21 Credit card data security: Who's responsible?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#24 Cambridge researchers show Chip and PIN system vulnerable to fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#47 Industry groups leap to Chip and PIN's defence
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#63 Wal-Mart to support smartcard payments
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#7 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#82 Five Theses on Security Protocols
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#77 towards https everywhere and strict transport security (was: Has there been a change in US banking regulations recently?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#60 A Two Way Non-repudiation Contract Exchange Scheme
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#71 Password shortcomings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#62 Gordon Gekko Says
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#35 The Conceptual ATM program
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#10 The Knowledge Economy Two Classes of Workers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#8 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#38 regulation,bridges,streams
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#52 U.S. agents 'got lucky' pursuing accused Russia master hackers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#90 copyright protection/Doug Englebart
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#17 Steve B sees what investors think
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#20 Steve B sees what investors think
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#58 US a laggard in adopting more secure credit cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013o.html#60 Target Offers Free Credit Monitoring Following Security Breach
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#69 Why is the US a decade behind Europe on 'chip and pin' cards?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#67 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#43 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#39 LA Times commentary: roll out "smart" credit cards to deter fraud

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:26:01 -0700
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

British Columbia's provincial government has redefined "balanced budget" to apply to the operating portion only. This way they can make huge capital expenditures and still loudly proclaim that their budget is balanced. When a reporter asked why the provincial debt is climbing by a couple of billion dollars per year in this era of "balanced budgets", the finance minister looked down his nose at him and proclaimed that "these things are difficult for ordinary folks to understand."

Meanwhile, the government recently sold a block of Crown land to developers at a price far below market value. When asked why, they explained that it was necessary to bring in some cash quickly to help balance this year's budget. So apparently while buying things doesn't count against a balanced budget, selling them does.

Then there's the tricks B.C. Hydro (the arm's-length power generation facility) plays with deferral accounts to create an illusion of profit while running at a loss so the government can rake off fat dividends - or the government's looting of the Insurance Corp. of B.C. (their auto insurance monopoly)...




re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#63 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

recently posted in linkedin thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#62 Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%

Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/medicare-part-b-premiums-increasing-up-to-30-2015-05-11

so what happens when part b premiums are more than your social security benefits? In theory if Part B is going up 30% ... then your SS COLA should be 30%.

congress let fiscal responsibility act expire in 2002 (spending couldn't exceed revenue) ... 2010 CBO report had revenue reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T (compared to baseline fiscal responsibility act budget) for a $12T budget gap. In the middle of the last decade, comptroller general was including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for how badly they savaged the budget).

fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

The first major bill after fiscal responsibility act expired was medicare part-d which has been described as enormous gift to the drug industry and the comptroller general described as long term $40T unfunded mandate that comes to swamp all other budget items. CBS 60 mins did segment on the process, highlighting the 18 republican members of congress and staffers responsible. At the last minute they add a one liner to it that precluded competitive bidding. CBS shows drugs under medicare part-d that are three times the price of identical drugs from the VA (that allows competitive bidding). Also after the bill passes, CBS finds all 18 resign and are on drug industry payroll

medicare part-d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d

The looting of the SS Trust fund started in the 80s (attributed to the administration budget director at the time). Baby boomer/bubble is four times as large as the previous generation and twice as large as following generation. As long as baby boomers were working and paying into the SS trust fund, there was more money going in than going out ... aka building principal for when the baby boomers retired. However with the SS trust fund looting there is a $2.7T deficit ... and with the baby boomers retiring it will fall on the following generation (only half as large) to replenish what was looted.

recent posts mentioning SS trust fund
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

PCI DSS compliance for z/OS

From: lynn@GARLIC.COM (Anne & Lynn Wheeler)
Subject: Re: PCI DSS compliance for z/OS
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date: 19 May 2015 13:05:04 -0700
charlesm@MCN.ORG (Charles Mills) writes:

I think much of the problem is with credit card numbers themselves. There are only ~10**16 possible credit card numbers -- many fewer if you allow for the fact that only certain combinations are valid. A credit card number is easier to brute-force guess than its encryption key, format-preserving or not.



trivia/background

long ago and far away we got called as consultants to small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted to use; the result is now sometimes called "electronic commerce".

Then somewhat having done "electronic commerce", in the mid-90s we were asked to participate in the (financial industry) x9a10 standards working group which had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for all retail payments (not just internet, ALL, point-of-sale, attended, unattended, credit, debit, ACH, i.e. ALL).

part of this is we did end-to-end threat analysis and attetmpted to use a number of metaphors to characterize the existing paradigm:

dual-use ... since information from previous transactions can be used for fraudulent transactions, that information has to be kept totally confidential and never divulged. at the same time the same information is required in dozens of business processes at millions of locations around the world. we've periodically commented that even if the planet was buried under miles of information hiding encryption, it still wouldn't stop leakage


...

security proportional to risk ... the value of the transaction information to the merchants is the profit on the transactions, which can be a couple dollars (and a couple cents for the transaction processor) ... the value of the information to the crooks is the account balance and/or credit limit ... as a result the crooks can afford to outspend the defenders by a factor of 100 times.


...

some refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#security.proportional.to.risk

the x9a10 financial standard working group came up with a transaction standard that eliminated the "dual-use" characteristic of the account number ... which met that it no longer needed to be kept hidden (and the earlier work we did on "electronic commerce" was the major use of "SSL" for hiding the account number ... which in the new transaction standard was no longer necessary). some refs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959

Later we were tangentially involved in the cal. state data breach notification law. A lot of the participants were heavily involved in privacy issues and had done detailed, in-depth public surveys. The #1 issue was identity theft, primarily of the form of fraudulent financial transactions as the result of breaches and there was little or nothing being done about the breaches. An issue is typically an entity/institution takes security measures in self protection, In the case of the breaches, the institution wasn't at risk ... it was their customers. It was hoped that the publicity from the breach notifications would prompt breach countermeasures.

Note in the years since the cal. state breach notification act there have been numerous federal (state preemption) acts introduced ... about evenly divided between those similar to the cal. act and those that would effectively eliminate any requirement for notification (frequently ingeniously disguised as criteria on when notification was required). The PCI DSS specification came out after the appearance of the cal. state data breach notification and referenced by federal legislation attempting to eliminate notification requirements ... "because the industry was addressing the problem". Early jokes about the PCI DSS certification was that it was relatively straight-forward ... but everybody with PCI DSS certification that had a breach would have their certification revoked.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:16:20 -0700
Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> writes:

B.C. Hydro will have to increase prices to cover the hidden taxes.



recent references to SS Trust Fund
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#62 Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#66 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

in effect there is similar issue with the looting of the SS Trust fund ... the budget director basically ruled that things were "balanced" if there was at least as much money coming as going out. The large principal in the SS Trust fund could be looted and not violate the rule that at least as much money was coming in as going out (for any one year) ... kicking the problem down the road ... what happens when the baby boomers are in retirement (already $2.7T deficit).

There are also recent articles documenting

1) Fed. agencies have leased public land for drilling, mining, logging and haven't bothered (for years) to collect statutory required payments (and possibly never recover past monies).

2) some recent bills introduced for firesale of many of these public lands

it is possible that the firesale might be for much less than is owned in back lease payments ... heading off any future effort to recover those payments.

some of the recent articles:

New attacks: Congress tries to sell off public lands
http://wilderness.org/blog/new-attacks-congress-tries-sell-public-lands
Why Congress Can Sell Off Our National Forests, But Not National Parks
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/national-park-vs-national-forest-your-public-land-expl-1697581346
Our Land, Up for Grabs
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/02/opinion/our-land-up-for-grabs.html
CONGRESS PASSES MEASURE TO ALLOW SELLING OFF NATIONAL FORESTS AND OTHER PUBLIC LANDS
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/congress-passes-measure-allow-selling-national-forests-and-other-public-lands
Who's behind the Movement to Sell off Public Lands?
http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/whos-behind-the-movement-to-sell-off-public-lands-150408?news=856178
Federal public land transfers get a Congressional boost
https://www.hcn.org/articles/western-states-trying-to-take-back-federal-lands-get-a-boost-from-the-u-s-senate

and

Unfair Share: How Oil and Gas Drillers Avoid Paying Royalties
http://www.propublica.org/article/unfair-share-how-oil-and-gas-drillers-avoid-paying-royalties

that is in addition to the bookkeeping gimmicks that has revenue moved to tax havens. some posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

past posts mentioning baby boomers/bubble four times larger than previous generation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#3 America's Prophet of Fiscal Doom
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#5 Republican accomplishments and Hoover
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#13 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#20 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#58 Everyone is getting same deal out of life: babyboomers can't retire but they get SS benefits intact
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#37 Young Developers Get Old Mainframers' Jobs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#72 I would like to understand the professional job market in US. Is it shrinking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#38 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#19 STEM crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#24 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#56 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#46 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#45 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#2 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#69 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#72 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#44 Ratio of workers to retirees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#67 The debt fallout: How Social Security went "cash negative" earlier than expected
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#62 Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#66 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 09:12:40 -0700
Morten Reistad <(first@last.name> writes:

Then the clincher; the sales arm can sell the cars with financing that have a 3-5% margin over the borrowing rate of the AA (which is now below 1.5%), giving car financing at 4.5-6.5%; which is also historically low. This generates a ton of profits for this financial arm.

Blame the government(s), not the companies on this one.




re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#63 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

there is the numerous references to Greenspan "put" ... anytime wallstreet got into trouble, greenspan lowered the interest rate. past posts mentioning FED chairmman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

For the economic mess, wallstreet did over $27T in securitized instruments (auto loans, mortgages, credit card debit, etc; aka they didn't have to borrow for making auto loans, they had wallstreet package in securitized instruments, pay for triple-A, sell to institutions restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments) ... also describes holding "off-book" so doesn't show up
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

At the end of 2008, just the four largest TBTF were still holding $5.2T of toxic assets "off-book"
Bank's Hidden Junk Menaces $1 Trillion Purge
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

supposedly the $700B for TARP was for toxic asset purchase ... but with just the four largest TBTF with $5.2T, it wouldn't have made a dent in the problem.

If that wasn't enuf, they started doing securitized instruments designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to institutions restiricted to dealing in safe investments (like pension plans), and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail (credit enormous demand for dodgy morgtages and loans).

The largest institution holding these CDS gambling bets was AIG. AIG was negotiating to pay off the bets at 50-60 cents on the dollar and the sec. of treasury steps in and says AIG has to take TARP funds to pay off the CDS gambling debts at 100 cents on the dollar. AIG becomes the largest recipient of TARP funds, and the largest recipient of AIG payoffs is the company formally headed by the sec. of treasury. It is not clear that TARP funds were ever, really intended to buy toxic assets.

The actual bail-out of wallstreet is being done by the FED behind the scenes (the FED had a long drawn out battle in the courts trying to prevent publicly divulging what was really going on). They bought trillions of the off-book "toxic assets" at 98cents on the dollar (instead of the street market price of 22cents on the dollar). They also started providing near zero interest ZIRP funds to financial institutions.

One of the biggest users of ZIRP funds were the private-equity industry for buyouts. Note the industry had gotten such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis that the changed the industry name to "private equity" and "junk bonds" became "high-yield" bonds. previous references also has reference to "barbarians at the gate", as well as the looting of pensions funds (not just palming off toxic CDOs on them) some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

article comparing private equity to "house flipping" ... except they can borrow 100% to buy the company and then can flip the company for less than they paid and walk away with boat loads of money ... because the loan is put on the books of the "flipped" company. Over half of corporate defaults are companies involved in private equity deals. Note that the defaults doesn't affect the credit rating of the private equity borrower, because it is moved to the books of the bought/flipped company
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

Up there with private equity use of ZIRP funds are corporations for "stock buybacks" ... which stockman describes as mini-form of private equity buyouts.
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Deformation-Corruption-Capitalism-ebook/dp/B00B3M3UK6/
stock buybacks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#stock.buyback

past posts mentioning ZIRP funds
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#4 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#10 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#89 Forbes perspective on IBM's troubles
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#94 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#95 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#2 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#3 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#4 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#6 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#11 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#23 weird apple trivia
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#29 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#43 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#58 Wall Street is Taking Over America's Pension Plans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#75 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#99 US Debt In Public Hands Doubles Under Barack Obama
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#28 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:28:14 -0700
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

The largest institution holding these CDS gambling bets was AIG. AIG was negotiating to pay off the bets at 50-60 cents on the dollar and the sec. of treasury steps in and says AIG has to take TARP funds to pay off the CDS gambling debts at 100 cents on the dollar. AIG becomes the largest recipient of TARP funds, and the largest recipient of AIG payoffs is the company formally headed by the sec. of treasury. It is not clear that TARP funds were ever, really intended to buy toxic assts.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#63 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#69 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

oh, and sec. of treasury also requires AIG to sign a document that they can't sue the companies making those CDS gambling bets (having designed toxic CDOs to fail ... and then took out CDS gambling bets that they would fail).

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

trivia: the rhetoric on the floor of congress for GLBA (now better known for repeal of glass-steagall, enabling too big to fail) was that the primary purpose was if you already had banking charter, you got to keep it, if you don't already having a banking charter, you couldn't get one (i.e. primary purpose started out protecting the banking industry from new competition). The largest recipient of AIG CDS gambling payoff (and company previously headed by the sec. of treasury) didn't have a banking charter (as well as some number of the other too big to fail) ... and therefor weren't eligible for the FED ZIRP funds. As part of the bailouts, the FED also gave out new bank charters, theoretically in violation of GLBA (in order for them to also feed at the FED ZIRP trough).

"glass steagall"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

recent ZIRP refs:

The Debt, ZIRP, And Valuation
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3151496-the-debt-zirp-and-valuation
Gold and the New U.S. and UK Recession - ZIRP to Continue
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article50472.html
U.S.A. Caught In Enormous Policy Vise - ZIRP & QE Destructive Influence
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article50500.html
The Fed is Stealing Your Retirement
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/04/the-fed-retirement/

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

30 yr old email

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: 30 yr old email
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:24:22 -0700
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#22 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#24 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#27 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#34 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#58 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#68 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#3 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#8 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#17 30 yr old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#26 30 yr old email

whole lot more 30 yr old A74

... note in following discussion there is reference to MUN&MAD instructions. At the same time POK did 370/XA ... tailored for MVS ... Endicott did "E" ... tailored for VS1 & DOS/VS which included MUN&MAD and also show up in Endicott's pc/370 implementation. A74 was much closer to POK high-end 370 that only supported 4k keys. However, it still needed the other pc/370 changes which communicated with cp/88 on the PC side to do I/O.

Date 05/20/85 12:19:14
From: wheeler

re: a74 support;

I've created updates for PC/370 1.1 + SPAM level cp system for A74 with the following assumptions:


cr0 is supported for a value of
009000000 (i.e. 4k page, 1meg segments)
              cr1 points to a segment table
segment table is 64byte aligned
              page table is double word aligned
no mun or mad instructions
ptlb instruction to clear any look aside
key instructions use real addresses
	
two new tables are added to dmkpgv for the page and segment tables. page table is set-up as 256*N (where N is number of virtual megabytes) contiguous page table entries. DMKPGVPT points to the start of the page table, DMKPGVST points to the start of the segment table (before rounding to 64byte boundary).

dmkcpi initializes the segment table, page table, cr0, and cr1 for new tables.

MUN instruction has been replaced with sequence of instructions to move invalid bit into corresponding PTE (found by taking virtual page number, doubling, and adding to DMKPGVPT) ... followed by a PTLB.

MAD instruction has been replaced with sequence of instructions which places the real page number in the PTE for the corresponding virtual address.

ISK, SSK, and RRB instructions have been changed such that there arguments are the real storage address (instead of the virtual storage address).

list of files being set to Dan Casey:
 &1 &2 DMKCPI   UPDTA74  A1 F         80         44          1  5/20/85 12:16
&1 &2 DMKMCH   UPDTA74  A1 F         80         17          1  5/20/85 12:09
&1 &2 DMKPGT   UPDTA74  A1 F         80         55          2  5/20/85 12:01
&1 &2 DMKPAM   UPDTA74  A1 F         80         25          1  5/20/85 11:59
 &1 &2 DMKSER   UPDTA74  A1 F         80          5          1  5/20/85 11:46
&1 &2 DMKMOV   UPDTA74  A1 F         80         14          1  5/20/85 11:44
 &1 &2 DMKIUM   UPDTA74  A1 F         80          5          1  5/20/85 11:31
&1 &2 DMKDSD   UPDTA74  A1 F         80          5          1  5/20/85 11:29
&1 &2 DMKCFI   UPDTA74  A1 F         80          5          1  5/20/85 11:28



... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 20 May 1985, 16:08:36 EDT
To: wheeler

Lynn -

The A74/370 has only 4k keys. Thus, if you address a key on a 2k boundary, you must have CR0 bit 7 set to 1. Otherwise, you will get a special operation exception (just like on a 3081). If this presents a problem, we could remove the check for CR0 bit 7, but you will still only have 4k keys.

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner about MAD and MUN. We decided NOT to implement them since it was a non-trivial change to the microcode and since Gil (our microcoder) left for vacation last week. We felt we'd rather not have him make the change and then not have him around to fix it if it didn't work.

The segment and page table alignment rules follow the normal 370 architecture.Segment tables must begin on 64-byte boundaries. Page tables must begin on 8-byte boundaries.

All your other assumptions look ok to me. But why do you want to do a PTLB after setting the invalid bit in a PTE? Why not just an IPTE?



... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 05/20/85 15:34:39
From: wheeler

re: 2k key; no problem ... will add the bit to cr0

re: ipte; lazy. ipte requires two regs, page table origin (PTO, or ste contents minus flag bits) plus virtual address. w/o ipte the sequence is:

lr r14,r1 virtual address srl r14,pgbits virtual page no. ar r14,r14 pte displacement a r14,=a(dmkpgvpt) pte mvc 0(2,r14),=h'8' ptlb ,

IPTE requires two regs.

lr r14,r1 virtual address srl r14,pgbits virtual page number sll r14,8+1 displacement to seg. pto a r14=a(dmkpgvpt) pto ipte r14,r1 invalidate

when I quickly coded "prototype" i wasn't sure that virtual address would already be in a register and if not, how many registers would be available. since i roughed out (& wrote) the prototype code ... it turns out that the virtual address is alwas in a register and so the IPTE sequence doesn't require anymore scratch registers than the PTLB sequence. Will go back and change.



... snip ... top of post, old email index

Date: 05/20/85 17:57:42
From: lynn

re: pc/370, fyi;

current pc/370 (m68000) hardware has the "page tables" hidden in the hardware. There are two instructions, MAD and MUN to validate and invalidate the "micro-code" page tables. MUN (make unaddressable) pretty easily maps into IPTE (have to calculate the PTO from the virtual address first tho). MAD (make adderssable) requires the PTE address to be calculated before stuffing in the real address (if absolutely sure that address would alwas be invalid before MAD, current PTE address calculation could be replaced with an LRA ... LRA returns address of PTE if invalid flag on).

current pc/370 (m68000) hardware takes virtual address for RRB, ISK, and SSK rather than real address. Would almost appear that key information is stored in the same place as the page table information ... and it is not "active" in non-translate mode (all virtual RRBs, ISKs, and SSKs will cause program interrupt to CP ... where instruction can be easily simulated by just taking the virtual address argument).



... snip ...
top of post, old email index

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 08:31:06 -0700
Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> writes:

Nope, that was the Mosquito. The Spitfire was all metal apart from some fabric covering on control surfaces. The Mosquito was almost all wood which meant airframe parts could be farmed out to boat-builders and furniture makers who were otherwise underemployed in wartime. My mother was a rivetter on wings, all flush rivetted, a real skilled job.



one of the "battle of britain" presentations was by a free lance aircraft designer who apparently is in very hot demand around the world. he spent six months using modern aeronautical computer design programs looking at the design of several british and german fighters from the era ... he showed analysis for things like wing lift and drag for various of the planes (including some reference to flush rivets).

they've claimed that the powerpoint presentions will be going up on the site ... but I've yet to see/find them.

posts mentioning the "battle of britain" series:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#14 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#62 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#35 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#63 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#101 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#109 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#0 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#36 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#38 End of vacuum tubes in computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#52 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#53 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You
Date: 21 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#54 The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You

Forget What We Know Now: We Knew Then the Iraq War Was a Joke
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/forget-what-we-know-now-we-knew-then-the-iraq-war-was-a-joke-20150518
Jeb Bush Says His Brother Was Misled Into War by Faulty Intelligence. That's Not What Happened.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-iraq-war-intelligence
David Brooks' sickening Iraq apologia: How the New York Times hack just rewrote history
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/19/david_brooks_sickening_iraq_apologia_how_the_new_york_times_hack_just_rewrote_history/
A Dishonest History of the Last War
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/05/the_iraq_war_wasn_t_an_honest_mistake_republicans_are_still_defending_the.html
George W. Bush's CIA Briefer: Bush and Cheney Falsely Presented WMD Intelligence to Public
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/michael-morell-bush-cheney-iraq-war

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Public Confused Why World's Biggest Banks Admitting Criminal Fraud, Leads To Public Yawns

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Public Confused Why World's Biggest Banks Admitting Criminal Fraud, Leads To Public Yawns
Date: 21 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Public Confused Why World's Biggest Banks Admitting Criminal Fraud, Leads To Public Yawns
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-21/public-confused-why-worlds-biggest-banks-admitting-criminal-fraud-leads-public-yawns

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-jail
"libor"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

There were some articles over the last week that this time they might actually convict and jail ... but it apparently it was just hot air. There are jokes that they now just view the fines as cost of doing (fraudulent) business. The settlements are also suppose to include promises to stop ... or they will suffer real consequences ... but they've been violating such promises for years ... and nothing serious happening

Note that rhetoric in congress leading up to Sarbanes-Oxley was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee executives and auditors did jail time, however it required SEC to do something. Possibly because GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, it started do reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even showing increase after SOX went into effect (and nobody doing jailtime). SOX supposedly provided very straightforward rules for conviction and sending to jail ... not requiring understanding of complex financial machinations. Also, in the Madoff congressional hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in)

Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
financial reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
Maodff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

Even Bove Wondering Why Individual Criminal Charges Not Filed In FX Manipulation
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/05/fx-manipulation-libor/

Historic Survey of Financial Services Professionals Reveals Widespread Disregard for Ethics, Alarming Use of Secrecy Policies to Silence Employees
http://www.labaton.com/en/about/press/Historic-Survey-of-Financial-Services-Professionals-Reveals-Widespread-Disregard-for-Ethics-Alarming-Use-of-Secrecy-Policies-to-Silence-Employees.cfm

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Date: 21 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/20/big-banks-fined/

Part of justifying Iraq war they predicted it would cost $50B ... now estimates is that with long term (veteran treatment & benefits) costs it may be $5T, 100 times larger. MICC & beltway bandits make out (well like bandits) on hardware, outsourcing & private militia ... treating veterans has potential of serious long term impact on how much they can loot. They will have to seriously reduce veteran benefits to keep their funds flowing. MICC posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

2010, CBO did report that previous decade, DOD budget was increased a little over $2T compared to baseline, a little over $1T for the two wars and another $1+T that couldn't be accounted for. In the 90s, congress passed an act requiring all federal agencies pass financial audits ... which DOD has never been able to do. There is now speculation that possibly in 2017, DOD might pass an audit (20yrs later).

The looting of the SS Trust fund started in the 80s (attributed to the administration budget director at the time). Baby boomer/bubble is four times as large as the previous generation and twice as large as following generation. As long as baby boomers were working and paying into the SS trust fund, there was more money going in than going out ... aka building principal for when the baby boomers retired. However with the SS trust fund looting there is a $2.7T deficit ... and with the baby boomers retiring it will fall on the following generation (only half as large) to replenish what was looted.

There is joke about a bottom desk drawer somewhere in west virginia that contains the Federal IOUs for the $2.7T that are considered relatively worthless. There is lot of public spin attempting to obfuscation and misdirect away from those Federal IOUs and who is responsible.

is one thing to do a few billions here & there ... it is totally different to loot $2.7T in the SS Trust Fund.

note in 2002, congress let the fiscal responsibility act expire (required that spending couldn't exceed tax revenue). in 2010, CBO did report, overall tax revenue was reduced by $6T and spending increased by $6T for a $12T budget gap (compared to the fiscal responsible, baseline budget). In the middle of last decade, the US comptroller general started including in speeches that nobody in congress was capable of middle school arithmetic (for how badly congress was savaging the budget).

fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

In addition to the "legal" tax loopholes created (and $6T less tax revenue), in 2009 IRS said that it was going after 52,000 wealthy americans that had evaded $400B in unpaid taxes ... tax evasion by hiding money overseas. In 2011 there was announcement by the new congressional house that they were cutting funds to the IRS unit responsible for recoverying that money. Since then there has been announcement that a couple swiss banks have been fined a couple billion for their part in the tax evasion ... but nothing about the $400B recovery.

tax evasion
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion

I first saw the press using the terms too big to prosecute and too big to jail for the too big to fail when they were repeatedly caught money laundering for terrorists and drug cartels ... they would get their hand slapped and asked to promise to stop doing it. The articles also started saying that the enormous funds from the TBTF were major factor in acquiring military equipment and upswing in violence in Mexico and the US.

too big to fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
money laundering
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

Public Confused Why World's Biggest Banks Admitting Criminal Fraud, Leads To Public Yawns
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-21/public-confused-why-worlds-biggest-banks-admitting-criminal-fraud-leads-public-yawns
Historic Survey of Financial Services Professionals Reveals Widespread Disregard for Ethics, Alarming Use of Secrecy Policies to Silence Employees
http://www.labaton.com/en/about/press/Historic-Survey-of-Financial-Services-Professionals-Reveals-Widespread-Disregard-for-Ethics-Alarming-Use-of-Secrecy-Policies-to-Silence-Employees.cfm

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Date: 21 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#75 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

SEC Commissioner Kara Stein Issues Blistering Dissent on Waivers for Bank Recidivists
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/05/sec-commissioner-kara-stein-issues-blistering-dissent-on-waivers-for-bank-recidivists.html
SEC Commissioner Furious That SEC Has Made A Mockery Of "Recidivist Criminal Behavior" By Banks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-22/sec-commissioner-furious-sec-has-made-mockery-recidivist-criminal-behavior-banks

Note the latest head of the SEC had to be given a special exemption because worked for one of the swiss banks fined for their role in the massive tax evasion by the 52,000 wealthy americans.

Big part of the VA is never getting funding for the enormous increase in workload. One of the things that has been promoted is large increase in medication (akin to what for-profit old folks homes doing). Talking to mental health care workers, they said VA was attempting to get the funding to hire every available mental health care worker in the country (and even if they had got the funding, they would have needed more) ... so drugs are substitute. My son-in-law 1st tour was 2004-2005 in Fallujah and then 2007-2008 in Baqubah (described as much worse than Fallujah but didn't get the press coverage since administration was claiming things much better) and they are still prescribing him max. dosages.

At least in the dataprocessing modernization (not just VA, but just about every federal agency) ... the beltway bandits are practicing Success of Failure (they make much larger profit from series of failures). The theme then in congress is solution to failures is even more outsourcing to for-profit beltway bandits ... claim is 70% of intelligence budget and over half the people is now outsourced to the Success of Failure crowd. Part of the congressional motivation is gov. agencies can't lobby congress ... I've seen cases where it is expected that 10% of appropriations to for-profit outsourcing goes to lobbying ... split evenly between the lobbyists and congress.

Matt Taibbi on Democracy Now: Banks Admit to Crimes, Pay $5 Billion, And Still No One Goes to Jail
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/05/matt-taibbi-on-democracy-now-banks-admit-to-crimes-pay-5-billion-and-still-no-one-goes-to-jail.html

Note that there are references that the statute of limitation has managed to expire for much of the fraud ... so it is now easy to now say that they will aggressively review something.

However, Sarbanes-Oxley still applies and it is much simpler to show violation and get conviction. Note that the original rhetoric in congress with respect to SOX was that it would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors did jail time ... but it required SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, they started doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings ... even showing increases after SOX went into effect (and nobody doing jailtime).

In the Madoff congressional hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff (SEC's hands were forced when Madoff turned himself in)

Sarbanes-Oxley
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Enron
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
financial reporting fraud
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud
Madff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff
regulatory capture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#regulatory.capture

trivia: securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. in the late 90s we had been asked to look at improving the integrity of supporting documents in securitized mortgages as countermeasure. Then in the early part of the century, they found that they could pay the rating agencies for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional testimony). Triple-A ratings trump supporting documents and they could start doing no-down, no-documentation, liar loans, pay for triple-A rating and sell to institutions restricted to only dealing in "safe" investments (like large pension funds). It was major factor in being able to do over $27T during the bubble.

triple-A rated toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

If that wasn't enough, they then started doing securitzed mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A rating, sell-off, and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail ... creating enormous demand for dodgy mortgages.

From the law of unintended consequences ... the no-documentation loans ... more recently forces the TBTF to setup the large "robo-signing" mills to fabricate the necessary documents. They are fined something like $50B for the robo-signing mills ... but again it is trivial compared to the more than $27T done during the bubble.

More trivia: Sarbanes-Oxley also had section requiring SEC to do something about the rating agencies.

fall 2008 ref to over $27T done between 2001 & 2008
Evil Wall Street Exports Boomed With 'Fools' Born to Buy Debt
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

Oct2008, the sec. of treasury asked for TARP funds to supposedly purchase (off-book) toxic assets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

However, the $700B allocated for TARP would hardly make a dent in the problem

Then reports are that the biggest holder of the CDS gambling bets (on toxic CDOs designed to fail) AIG, was negotiating to payoff at 50-60 cents on the dollar when the sec. of treasury steps in and says that they have to take TARP funds in order to payoff at 100 cents on the dollar. AIG is the biggest recipient of TARP funds and the biggest beneficiary of CDS gambling bet payoffs is the company previously headed by the sec. of treasury (sec. of treasury also requires AIG to sign document preventing AIG from suing those making the CDS gambling bets). It is not clear that the TARP funds were ever intended to buy toxic funds.

Note that end of 2008, just the four largest TBTF were holding $5.2T (that's trillion) in toxic assets "off-book" ... which is one reason the $700B in TARP funds wouldn't have made a dent in the problem. Earlier in the year market price for those toxic assets were 22cents on the dollar ... if they were forced to be brought back on the books, the TBTF would have been declared insolvent and forced to be liquidated.

As a result the TARP funds were used for other things and the FED has been doing the bailouts behind the scenes (they had long drawn out battle in the courts trying to prevent public disclosure of what they've been doing). The FED has also been buying toxic assets fro 98cents on the dollar (not 22) and providing trillions in ZIRP funds for near zero interest rates

The TBTF take the ZIRP bunds and buy trillions in federal debt accumulated since the tax revenue was drastically cut last decade at the same time they exploded spending (treasury interest payments is approaching half trillion ... if the FED would buy treasuries directly at zero interest, then federal debt wouldn't cost anything, but then also the TBTF wouldn't get the spread on the ZIRP funds and what treasury is paying).

Note the sales of triple-A rated toxic securities to pension funds is claimed to be responsible for 30% drop in their value and accounts for reported trillions in shortfall ... and then the continued ZIRP funds keep interest rates so low that they are unable to recover any of the losses (TBTF don't have to pay interest to attract deposits since they get all the ZIRP funds they could possibly want) assets.

recent posts mentioning ZIRP funds:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#28 Bernie Sanders Proposes A Bill To Break Up The 'Too Big To Exist' Banks
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#69 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#70 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:27:18 -0700
hancock4 writes:

I think, given the huge Federal deficit and Medicare/Medicaid burdens, that we're gonna end up with austere dorm-like homeless shelters for indigent seniors--just a big room with cots, and minimal institutional meals. Maybe one overworked nurse.



re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#63 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

there is recent discussion over in the military groups about the VA. Part of the justification for Iraq would be it would only cost $50B, estimates are that when all is said and done, long term costs will hit $5T (100 times larger). MICC gets boat loads of money for hardware, outsourcing and private mercenaries ... the veteran benefits & VA costs will start to substantially cut into that. military-industrial(-congressional) complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex

Compromise between MICC and the drug industry would be to stoke them to the gills on drugs ... somewhat similar to what the drug industry is pushing for the "for-profit" retirement & nursing homes ... minimal staff and savings split between the for-profit operations and the drug companies.

it is being acclerated by "private equity" operations buy up retirment, nursing, and medical operations ... some past posts private equity moving into health care
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#17 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#48 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#58 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#100 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#105 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#106 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#107 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#108 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#18 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#42 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#30 HP splits, again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014l.html#64 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major

private equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

recent reference to drug industry getting fantastic deal from congress (medicare part-d) that the US comptroller general said becomes a long term $40T obligation that comes to swamp all other budget items
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#63 Western Union envisioned internet functionality

it was first major act after congress allowed fiscal responsibility act to expire in 2002.

medicare part-d
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#medicare.part-d
fiscal responsibility act
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act
comptroller general
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#comptroller.general

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Date: 22 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#75 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

When You Do the Crime, But Don't Do the Time; Crime Pays, When You're a Bank
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/05/22/crime-pays-when-youre-a-bank/

trivia: other ways that crime pays for financial institutions. Around the turn of the century there were a number of "safe" payment products presented to internet merchants (accounting for something like 70% of transactions) that saw high acceptance. For decades, merchants have been indoctrinated that the interchange fee they pay for credit/debit transactions is heavily prorated based on the associated fraud rate ... with internet falling into "MOTO" category paying the highest rate. The internet merchants were anticipating that "safe" payment products would see 90% reduction in the fees they were paying. The issue is that 40-60% of US financial institution bottom line was coming from these fees and a 90% reduction would represent a significant hit to their bottom line. In any case, the internet merchants were told a whole new scheme was created, instead of a 90% reduction in the fees for "safe" payments, there would be effectively a surcharge on top of the highest fees (based on fraud) they were already paying. That is when the cognitive dissonance set in ... and the whole effort for "safe" payment products fell apart.

past posts mentioning fraud
http://www.garlic.html/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

this is just before HFT kicked in which has made it much worse ... wallstreet has nothing to fear from SEC for criminal activity
http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/

Jan2009, I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora hearings (30s congressional hearings into '29 crash, results in criminal convictions and jailtime as well as Glass-Steagall) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened this time and what happend then (speculation that the new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call that it wouldn't be needed after all (references to enormous piles of wallstreet money burying DC).

glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Date: 23 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#75 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#78 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

7 years on from crisis, $150 billion in bank fines and penalties
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102637201

past posts mentioning fraud
http://www.garlic.html/~lynn/subintegrity.html#fraud

influence peddling, revolving doors, and outsourcing have been around for millennium ... however recently there has been enormous upswing. grumpy old men and the enormous upswing in influence peddling are somewhat separate issues and diversion

President of AMEX was in competition to be next CEO, the looser leaves and takes their protegee and goes to Baltimore taking over what is described as loan sharking business. They make some other acquisitions eventually acquiring CITI in violation of Glass-Steagall. Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall ... resulting in the repeal being added to GLBA (enabling too big to fail, too big to prosecute, and too big to jail). Person responsible for GLBA is #2 on times list of those responsible
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

too big to fail, too big to prosecute, too big to jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Chair of CFTC proposes regulation of CDS (gambling bets), Greespan and a couple others get the CFTC chair replaced with #2's (above) wife. She keeps CFTC from regulating CDS while her husband gets provision added to CFTC modernization act blocking CDS regulation. His wife then resigns as chair of CFTC and joins ENRON board and their financial audit committee (ENRON makes use of CDS in their financial manipulation before it is being used by the sellers of triple-A rated toxic CDOs designed to fail).

ENRON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

The protegee (from AMEX) then leaves CITI and becomes CEO of one of the other major too big to fail (together they account for major portion of the financial mess and other financial crimes).

Earlier AMEX is in competition with KKR for private-equity LBO of RJR and KKR wins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

Then KKR runs into trouble with RJR and hires away the president of AMEX to turn it around. Then IBM has gone into the red and is being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation for breakup. The board then hires away former president of AMEX to resurrect IBM and reverse the breakup. Account of some of the efforts used at both IBM and RJR
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

The former president of AMEX then leaves IBM and becomes head of another large private equity company ... which subsequently does private-equity LBO of major government contractor. Account of private-equity take-overs akin to "house flipping" ... except they put the loan to buy the victim company on the company's books, they can even flip the company for less than they paid and still walk away with boat loads of money (since the loan goes with the company). The enormous debt loads has companies doing everything possible to try and service the debt and has resulted in over half the corporate defaults (except it doesn't show up on the private equity company credit ratings, but on their victim companies).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

posts referencing private equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
former president of AMEX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

The major government contractor then is employer of individual currently in russia after leaking lots of classified documents. Last decade saw enormous upswing in gov. outsourcing to for-profit companies (large number subject to private equity take-overs) ... 70% of intelligence budget and at least half the people
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

The former head of CIA, resigned in disgrace and slap on the wrist for divulging classified documents, goes to KKR.

The original rhetoric in congress about GLBA was it was a gift to wallstreet in response to recent $250M congressional contributions (about evenly divided between the two parties) and primary purpose was "if you already had a bank charter you got to keep it, if you didn't have a bank charter you couldn't get one" (banking industry was trying to prevent new competition from companies with new technologies; however it is now better known for the addition of the repeal of Glass-Steagall). Even at that, it originally passes the senate pretty much along party lines and then a heroic effort is made to convince the president to veto the bill. The response is several additions that result in it finally passing with veto proof 90-8 and the president signs it.

In addition to Greenspan helping with GLBA, another major player is the then sec. of treasury (also a former head of the company that later is the major recipient of AIG's CDS gambling bet payoffs) who after it is finished, resigns and becomes what was described at the time as co-CEO of CITI.

posts referenced fed chairmans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fed.chairman

posts mentioning former sec. treasury that resigns and joins CITI:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#36 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#41 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#53 How to defeat new telemarketing tactic
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#65 is it possible that ALL banks will be nationalized?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#10 Who will Survive AIG or Derivative Counterparty Risk?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#16 The Formula That Killed Wall Street
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#18 HSBC is expected to announce a profit, which is good, what did they do differently?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#28 I need insight on the Stock Market
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#42 Bernard Madoff Is Jailed After Pleading Guilty -- are there more "Madoff's" out there?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#61 Quiz: Evaluate your level of Spreadsheet risk
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#62 Is Wall Street World's Largest Ponzi Scheme where Madoff is Just a Poster Child?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#63 Do bonuses foster unethical conduct?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009d.html#73 Should Glass-Steagall be reinstated?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#0 What is swap in the financial market?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#13 Should we fear and hate derivatives?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#23 Should FDIC or the Federal Reserve Bank have the authority to shut down and take over non-bank financial institutions like AIG?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009e.html#35 Architectural Diversity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#29 What is the real basis for business mess we are facing today?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009f.html#51 On whom or what would you place the blame for the sub-prime crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#7 Just posted third article about toxic assets in a series on the current financial crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#33 Treating the Web As an Archive
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009h.html#17 REGULATOR ROLE IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FINANCIAL SCANDALS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009i.html#60 In the USA "financial regulator seeks power to curb excess speculation."
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#84 Opinions on the 'Unix Haters' Handbook'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#61 70 Years of ATM Innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#54 The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#28 Our Pecora Moment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#67 The Python and the Mongoose: it helps if you know the rules of engagement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#38 Who is Really to Blame for the Financial Crisis?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#29 Ernst & Young sued for fraud over Lehman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#52 Are Americans serious about dealing with money laundering and the drug cartels?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011j.html#41 Advice from Richard P. Feynman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#54 50th anniversary of BASIC, COBOL?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011l.html#74 computer bootlaces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#41 The men who crashed the world
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#62 Civilization, doomed?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#31 US real-estate has lost $7T in value
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#5 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#57 speculation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#59 Why Hasn't The Government Prosecuted Anyone For The 2008 Financial recession?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012g.html#77 Monopoly/ Cartons of Punch Cards
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#94 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#38 Four Signs Your Awesome Investment May Actually Be A Ponzi Scheme
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#58 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#59 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#63 General Mills computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#28 Neil Barofsky: Geithner Doctrine Lives on in Libor Scandal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#73 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#19 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013e.html#42 More Whistleblower Leaks on Foreclosure Settlement Show Both Suppression of Evidence and Gross Incompetence
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#28 Flag bloat
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#29 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#30 Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#35 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#57 The agency problem and how to create a criminogenic environment
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#13 Jack Lew Shows His True Colors By Forcing Deregulation of Derivatives on the CFTC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#64 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#67 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#13 OT: NYT article--the rich get richer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#98 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#0 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#8 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#24 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#80 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#2 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#9 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#21 Thomas Piketty Is Right About the Past and Wrong About the Future
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#113 Follow the Money: How Finance Keeps the Whip Hand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#15 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#19 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#29 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#45 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#95 How Comp-Sci went from passing fad to must have major
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#21 Senate Democrats vs. the Middle Class; Senators elected in 2008 made Obama's agenda possible, and its results have harmed most Americans
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#73 The Watchdog that Didn't Bark ... Again
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#121 Presenting The $303 Trillion In Derivatives That US Taxpayers Are Now On The Hook For
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#126 Wall Street's Revenge
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#131 Memo To WSJ: The CRomnibus Abomination Was Not "A Rare Bipartisan Success"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#150 LEO
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#98 Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#2 do you blame Harvard for Putin
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#8 Shoot Bank Of America Now---The Case For Super Glass-Steagall Is Overwhelming

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
Date: 24 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#75 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#76 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#78 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#79 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

one of the possibly unintended consequence of GLBA & repeal of Glass-Steagall ... enabling too big to fail, are narco-submarines, narco-tunnels, and advance military equipment in the hands of drug cartels and terrorists. OCC, DOJ, and SEC have made heavy use of deferred prosecution (sort of a kind of probation) since the turn of the century ... basically too big to fail involved in all sorts of criminal behavior ... they promise to stop breaking the law for some period and the charges will be dropped. However they wouldn't change the behavior ... but prior deferred prosecution agreements would be ignored (as if they didn't exist)

I think it was articles about OCC, DOJ, SEC, etc using deferred prosecution for hundreds of billions of dollars repeatedly money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists ... started using too big to prosecute and too big to jail. There were also articles attributing big upswing in violence and military-like operations to the hundreds of billions in money laundering. Search on deferred prosecution for examples

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2012/12/banks-are-where-money-drug-war
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/11/if-hsbc-were-a-person-it-d-be-in-jail.html
http://www.thenation.com/blog/181763/blotch-eric-holders-record-wall-street-accountability

from above:

Holder himself suggested in Senate testimony last year that some firms really are too big to jail


... snip ...

glass-steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
too big to fail (too big to prosecute, too big to jail)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail
money laundering
http://wwwlgarlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

email security re: hotmail.com

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: email security re: hotmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 13:48:30 -0700
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:

Time was, someone wrote up an introduction or something, and it got passed around, and became a standard. "The Hitchiker's Guide to the Internet" was one I think I saw 20 years ago. "Zen and the Art of the Internet" made it into an actual book. There was the O'Reilly "Whole Internet Handbook" or something like that. I remember getting some text guides when I was at BBSs in 1994, via whatever-to-mail servers that would grab something and email it to you (since other than newsgroups, email was all the BBSs offered).



I started shadowing lots internet files in the 80s ... many at the time at SRI ... bits and pieces:

I suggest starting at one of the following:

ftp : is.internic.net
gopher: internic.net
telnet: is.internic.net login gopher
email : mailserv@is.internic.net
WAIS : is.internic.net, source internic-infosource

I am also appending a general blurb.

Pushpendra Mohta pushp@internic.net +1 619 455 4600
Director of Engineering
InterNIC Information Services

The InterNIC
----------------

In cooperation with the Internet community, the National Science Foundation developed and released in the Spring of 1992 a solicitation for one or more Network Information Services Managers (NIS Manager(s)) to provide and/or coordinate services for the NSFNET community. As a result of this solicitation, three separate organizations were competitively selected to receive cooperative agreements in the three areas of Registration Services, Directory and Database Services, and Information Services.



.............................................

host: ftp.nisc.sri.com
directory: netinfo
file: internet-getting-started-contents

6/92

"INTERNET: GETTING STARTED"

Table of Contents

This file contains the Table of Contents for the hardcopy document entitled "Internet: Getting Started". This publication is available for $39 (plus a $5 shipping and handling fee) for U.S. residents and $55 for those outside the U.S. In addition the following sales taxes apply:

California: 8.25% Canada: 7% France: 5.5% Germany: 14%

Copies may be ordered by sending a check, company purchase order, or money order made payable to SRI International and mailed to:



.............................................

The Internet Resources Guide is compiled by the NSF Network Service Center (nnsc@nnsc.nsf.net) at BBN Systems and Technologies Corporation from contributions by members of the Internet community. This work is supported by a subcontract with the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR), which operates under agreement with the National Science Foundation (NSF). The editors have made reasonable efforts to provide correct information, but neither UCAR, NSF, NNSC nor BBN is responsible for the accuracy of the listings in this guide. Copyright 1989 BBN Systems and Technologies Corporation.

Chapter 1: Computational Resources

This section lists computational resources on the Internet: centers or particular machines that serve users with special computing requirements. A good example of such a resource is a supercomputer center.

Contents

Air Force Supercomputer Center at Kirtland AFB ........  1.1
Cornell Theory Center, Cornell National
Supercomputer Facility ..............................  1.2
John von Neumann National Supercomputer Center ........  1.3
National Center for Atmospheric Research ..............  1.4
National Center for Supercomputing Applications .......  1.5
National Energy Research Supercomputer Center .........  1.6
Northeast Parallel Architectures Center ...............  1.7
Ohio Supercomputer Center .............................  1.8
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center ......................  1.9
San Diego Supercomputer Center ........................ 1.10
US Army Ballistic Research Laboratory ................. 1.11
University of California at Berkeley .................. 1.12
SuperComputing Services, The University of Calgary .... 1.13
Center for Experimental Research in Parallel Algorithms,
Software and Systems (CERPASS) ...................... 1.14
University of Texas System Center for High Performance
Computing ........................................... 1.15
North Carolina Supercomputing Center .................. 1.16
Arizona State University Supercomputing Center ........ 1.17
UCLA Office of Academic Computing ..................... 1.18

Sept 13, 1991 NNSC Section 1.0, Page 1


.............................................

Introduction

The growth of NSFNET in the last few years has brought the benefits of networking to researchers at hundreds of academic, government and industrial sites. Network users have improved access to research tools, and there are greater possibilities for collaboration among members of the research community. But in order to take maximum advantage of more widespread and improved connectivity, users have to be aware of the resources that are available to them.

Our goal in publishing the Internet Resource Guide is to provide a service which, by increasing the visibility of resources accessible via NSFNET and other parts of the Internet, will expose users to those facilities that will help them do their work better. We are depending on the population of resource providers to furnish us with the information for the guide. We expect and hope that as copies of the guide are distributed throughout the community, representatives of organizations that maintain resources we haven't yet mentioned will submit descriptions for inclusion in the guide.

April 16, 1990 NNSC Introduction

How to Use and Maintain This Guide

The Internet Resource Guide is intended to inform Internet users about the services available to them on the network.

Similar resources are grouped together in sections. Each resource has a separate entry that describes the resource, identifies who can use the resource, explains how to reach the local network via the Internet, and lists contacts for more information. For example, Section 1 lists special computing resources on the Internet, such as supercomputer centers and centers for parallel computing. Thus, research- ers interested in using a supercomputer can browse through the entries in Section 1 in search of a supercomputer center that can accommodate their needs.

Users interested in locating a particular service can check the tables of contents at the start of each section. In the future, the NNSC expects to provide an index that allows users to locate services based on keywords.



.............................................

Originally started out we were working with Director of NSF and NSF supercomputers to interconnect the centers and were suppose to get $20M. Then congress cuts the budget and some number of other things happen before they finally release an RFP (in large part based on the work we had been doing). Internal politics prevent us from bidding on the RFP. The NSF director tries to help writting a letter to the company with support from other agencies ... but that just makes the internal polics worse. Regional networks connecting morphs into NSFNET precursor to the modern internet. some old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#nsfnet

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

Western Union envisioned internet functionality

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: Western Union envisioned internet functionality
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:14:10 -0700
hancock4 writes:

Actually, I think when S/S was initiated, relatively few folks lived longer than 65, far, far less than today. A lot of medical improvements came along in the 1940s and 1950s, such as better infection fighting, heart disease control, and overall hospital care. Also, in the 1950s, industrial safety improved, some steps were taken to reduce environmental pollution and improve transportation safety.



re:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

from above:

Life expectancy increases with age as the individual survives the higher mortality rates associated with childhood. For instance, the table above listed the life expectancy at birth in Medieval Britain at 30. Having survived until the age of 21, a male member of the English aristocracy in this period could expect to live:[23]

1200-1300: to age 64
1300-1400: to age 45 (due to the impact of the bubonic plague)
1400-1500: to age 69
1500-1550: to age 71



... snip ...

I've referenced before baby boomer/bubble was 4times larger than the previous generation and twice as large as the following ... so as long as baby boomers were working and paying into the SS Trust Fund ... much more was flowing in than being paid out (presumably to build up total amount for when the baby boomers retired). The looting of $2.7T out of the SS trust fund ... leaves it to the "smaller" following generation to cover the missing funds.

past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003k.html#61 The Incredible Shrinking Legacy Workforces
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#7 U.S. Cedes Top Spot in Global IT Competitiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#7 what does xp do when system is copying
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#16 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#26 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007v.html#72 whats the world going to do when all the baby boomers retire
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#3 on-demand computing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#16 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#69 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008f.html#99 The Workplace War for Age and Talent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#1 The Workplace War for Age and Talent
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008g.html#50 CA ESD files Options
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#3 America's Prophet of Fiscal Doom
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#11 The Return of Ada
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#26 The Return of Ada
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#57 our Barb: WWII
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#56 The Price Of Oil --- going beyong US$130 a barrel
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#98 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#80 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#5 Republican accomplishments and Hoover
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008l.html#37 dollar coins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#3 Medical care
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#13 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#20 Michigan industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008n.html#29 Blinkylights
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#8 The end of the baby boomers, US bonds maturing, and then what?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008o.html#58 Everyone is getting same deal out of life: babyboomers can't retire but they get SS benefits intact
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#61 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#64 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009m.html#72 August 7, 1944: today is the 65th Anniversary of the Birth of the Computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#37 Young Developers Get Old Mainframers' Jobs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#72 I would like to understand the professional job market in US. Is it shrinking?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#37 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#38 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#19 STEM crisis
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#24 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#56 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#59 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#18 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#46 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#45 not even sort of about The 2010 Census
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#72 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#74 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#75 Favourite computer history books?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#2 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#6 taking down the machine - z9 series
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#66 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#69 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#72 They always think we don't understand
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#75 origin of 'fields'?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#44 Ratio of workers to retirees
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#71 origin of 'fields'?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#69 No command, and control
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#76 The Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown: Easy Money, High Rollers, and the Great Credit Crash
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#24 US Housing Crisis Is Now Worse Than Great Depression
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#88 Justifying application of Boyd to a project manager
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#57 The Mortgage Crisis---Some Inside Views
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#67 The debt fallout: How Social Security went "cash negative" earlier than expected
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#79 Why are organizations sticking with mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#46 PC industry is heading for more change
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#25 Two Articles of Interest on Culture and Things to Look For
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#75 What's the bigger risk, retiring too soon, or too late?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#73 These Two Charts Show How The Priorities Of US Companies Have Gotten Screwed Up
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#84 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013k.html#67 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#4 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#7 Mandated Spending
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#40 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#41 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#108 Occupy Democrats
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#62 Medicare Part B premiums increasing up to 30%
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#66 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#68 Western Union envisioned internet functionality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#75 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

email security re: hotmail.com

From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: Re: email security re: hotmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:29:16 -0700
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:

But I guess it also reflects how times have changed, that even 20 years ago talk of RFCs was common, and I haven't seen any talk in a long time.



I'm still doing my RFC index (however as previously referenced, i haven't figured out how to update personal web pages since garlic.com moved to new webserver around 17apr)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm

other trivia from long ago ... before Postel passed, he would even let me do part of STD1.

past internet posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internet

However, RFCs over the years have increasingly been commercialized and the copyrights strengthened. I use to do a lot of abstracting under the older copyright rules ... which required including the internet/ISOC copyright notice. Newer copyright rules have the original authors/company retaining all rights and (in theory) to do anything requires getting permission from the original authors. Ten years ago I got threatened with legal action by author that was trying to retroactively apply the newer copyright rules to earlier RFCs (I had to hire a copyright laywer to discuss copyright law with the president of ISOC ... who the author had claimed was his good friend).

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

ACP/TPF

Refed: **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **, - **
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Subject: ACP/TPF
Date: 25 May 2015
Blog: Facebook
ACP/TPF had loosely-coupled support ... but didn't have tightly coupled multiprocessor SMP support. 3081 originally came out as SMP (two-processor) only ... and there became big worry that ACP/TPF customers would all move to clone processor makers that were coming out with newer, faster, single processor machines. As sort of temporary effort, there was some horribly unnatural things done to VM370 to improve ACP/TPF running in virtual machine ... but it had 10-15% degradation in throughput for nearly all other (multiprocessor) VM370 customers. SMP posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

Finally they managed to release 3083 to address the ACP/TPF market ... a 3081 with one of the processors removed. One of the problems was that proc0 was at the top of the box and proc1 was in the middle, the simplest would have been to remove proc1 ... but that would have made the box dangerously top-heavy. They also had to do some other rework in order to move proc0 to the middle of the box.

Note that in the failure of FS, 303x and 308x efforts were kicked off in parallel. 3033 started out Q&D effort to remap 168-3 logic to 20% faster chips. 3081 was also (somewhat longer) Q&D effort to remap some warmed over FS technology. somebody's long-winded discussion about FS and how badly 308x compared to competition
http://www.jfsowa.com/computer/memo125.htm

With 3033 out the door, those processor engineers start on 3090. As also periodically pointed out ... during the FS period, internal politics were killing off 370 efforts ... and the lack of newer 370 products during this period is credited with giving clone processor makers market foothold. FS posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

Other trivia: my wife did short stint as chief architect for Amadeus (EU effort built off Eastern Airlines System/One). However, she backed the EU x.25 plans instead of SNA ... and the SNA forces got her removed. It didn't do a lot of good since Amadeus went with x.25 anyway.

Other trivia: after we left IBM, we were brought into the largest airline res. system to look at the ten impossible things that they couldn't do ... initially with "ROUTES". They spent a couple days going through detailed description and gave me copy of the full OAG tape (all scheduled airline flt segments in the world). I went away and two months later came back with a ROUTES implementation that did all ten impossible things ... it didn't run on mainframe but on RS/6000. Big issue was the mainframe ROUTES was design from the 60s that involved various technology trade-off issues from the period. Starting from scratch in the 90s, it was possible to make totally different trade-offs. Part of the 60s trade-offs was that they had about 800 people doing semi-manual tailoring supporting ROUTES ... which accounted for some number of the ten impossible things. Redo from scratch automated all those manual activities. Redo from scratch also made it run 100 times faster, which then provided enough resources to do some number of the other ten impossible things and it finally netted out ten times faster. All ROUTES transactions in the world for all airlines could be handled on ten RS/6000 590s (15yrs later there was that much processing in a cellphone).

Then the hand wringing started ... finally after 6months they got around to telling me that they hadn't actually wanted me to do the ten impossible things, they just wanted to be able to tell the parent company board for the next five years that I was working on it (one of the board members had previously been at IBM STL).

past posts mentioning AMADEUS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#49 Did AT&T offer Unix to Digital Equipment in the 70s?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#67 unix
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#47 What makes a mainframe a mainframe?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#6 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#7 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#23 Demo: Things in Hierarchies (w/o RM/SQL)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#29 Integer types for 128-bit addressing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005f.html#22 System/360; Hardwired vs. Microcoded
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#8 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#4 How Many 360/195s and 370/195s were shipped?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#9 Was FORTRAN buggy?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#19 Pennsylvania Railroad ticket fax service
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#52 US Air computers delay psgrs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#72 The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#59 ACP/TPF
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#45 64 gig memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#53 Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#19 American Airlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#34 American Airlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#41 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technologies?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#33 IBM touts encryption innovation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#55 IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#59 "Portable" data centers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#23 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010g.html#29 someone smarter than Dave Cutler
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#16 Sabre Talk Information?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#17 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOS or Windows, doesn't matter)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#41 Looking for a real Fortran-66 compatible PC compiler (CP/M or DOSor Windows
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#14 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#43 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011i.html#77 program coding pads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#8 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#9 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#52 How will mainframers retiring be different from Y2K?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#41 System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#13 Should you support or abandon the 3270 as a User Interface?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#69 IBM layoffs strike first in India; workers describe cuts as 'slaughter' and 'massive'
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#7 Last Gasp for Hard Disk Drives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#54 Has the last fighter pilot been born?

past posts mentioning redoing ROUTES
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#136a checks (was S/390 on PowerPC?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#20 Competitors to SABRE?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#69 Block oriented I/O over IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#2 Computers in Science Fiction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#83 Summary: Robots of Doom
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003o.html#17 Rationale for Supercomputers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004b.html#6 Mainframe not a good architecture for interactive workloads
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004o.html#23 Demo: Things in Hierarchies (w/o RM/SQL)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#85 The TransRelational Model: Performance Concerns
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005o.html#24 is a computer like an airport?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#8 EBCDIC to 6-bit and back
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#18 RAMAC 305(?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#22 3 value logic. Why is SQL so special?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#22 Bidirectional Binary Self-Joins
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#41 US Airways badmouths legacy system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#41 Fast and Safe C Strings: User friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#28 Even worse than UNIX
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#45 64 gig memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#61 Up, Up, ... and Gone?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008i.html#19 American Airlines
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008j.html#32 CLIs and GUIs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#39 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technologies?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#41 Automation is still not accepted to streamline the business processes... why organizations are not accepting newer technologies?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009l.html#54 another item related to ASCII vs. EBCDIC
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009o.html#42 Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#10 The 50th Anniversary of the Legendary IBM 1401
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#13 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#73 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#74 Happy DEC-10 Day
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#19 Processes' memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#53 Article says mainframe most cost-efficient platform
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011c.html#42 If IBM Hadn't Bet the Company
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#43 Sabre; The First Online Reservation System
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#8 Multiple Virtual Memory
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#52 How will mainframers retiring be different from Y2K?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#16 System/360--50 years--the future?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#59 history of Programming language and CPU in relation to each
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#87 Old data storage or data base
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#0 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made 30yearsagotoday
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#54 RR songs, was Re: e50th/60th anniversary of SABRE--real-time airline reservations computer system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#69 RR songs, was Re: e50th/60th anniversary of SABRE--real-time airline reservations computer system
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#57 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#59 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi

--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970


previous, next, index - home